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Strange Case of Joe symington, and the alien pancakes.
That's correct. Joe symington.
And the alien pancakes. I've got a couple articles
dealing with this three actually the first one comes from Daily
Star, .co.uk dated February 16th 2021 by Joshua Smith title says
man, claims aliens gave him pancakes after UFO.
Ended in his back Garden chicken farmer.
Joe symington said he was visited by aliens had his farm
in Eagle River. Wisconsin, not, they offered
him. A Parting, Gift of a stack of
four pancakes. Now, of course, this took place
back in 1961 as says, you may think pancakes are out of this
world but one man claims to have been served up, the real deal,
chicken farmer, Joe symington claimed, he was visited by
aliens at around 11 a.m. on April, 18th, 1961, and that they
served him some intergalactic. Pancakes, mr.
Simonton who was 60 at the time of the alleged encounter was
visited at his farm. In Eagle River, Wisconsin by an
object which he saw Landing in his garden.
Now, I just interject here real quickly that there are multiple
videos of interviews with mr. Simonton filmed and and mostly a
radio Ray talks about what he saw and it seems like his story
didn't change to me. It's compelling it says mister
Assign Burton who was 60 at the time, the alleged encounter was
visited as forming an Eagle River.
Wisconsin by an object which he saw Landing in his garden.
He recalled hearing the sound of knobby tires on wet pavement and
went to go investigate. He saw metallic ufo-like object,
when she described as appearing, like to reversed bowls with
exhaust pipes on its Edge. Mr. Simonton said, the object
did not touch the ground and that after he opened a and After
he opened a gate on its side, he was met with three aliens.
Who had a height of about 5 feet and wear black or navy blue
clothing with turtleneck shirts and helmets.
Now, in the interview, he speaks about these as being hats,
actually very form-fitting that looked like something that you
would wear under a helmet as far as that what they described as
helmets here. He says, Simonton told the Press
at the time that the crew seemed to be of Italian descent and
about 25 or 30 years old. One of the occupants gave the
witness of metallic jar with two handles indicating with gestures
that he needed water for drinking, holding the jar to his
mouth, as a good house, Simonton agreed to put their great to the
request and went to his house, to fill a water jug, which he
recalled is weighing a bit more than aluminum.
An Air Force report of the incident States looking into the
saucer e. He saw a man cooking on some
kind of flameless cooking. Appliance the shaft who had red
stripes on the pants gave Simonton for hot cookies of
about seven and a half centimeters in diameter.
Now these things look like I think he described him as being
two inches by three inches, you can see pictures of them.
There's a picture of one here on this article from The Daily
Star. And it looks like it, they
described his pancakes but they look really really thin almost
like little miniature waffles that they have, you know,
they're they have their their pattern with checkered.
You know, little holes in them and they actually don't look too
appetizing. He says and like and like
pancakes themselves, evidence to accept astronomer J Allen hynek
was dispatched by the US. Air Force to investigate
following the incident. And says he took one of the
pancakes away for government analysis at the Air Force,
technical Intelligence Center. They found them to be made of
flour, sugar, and Greece, and the book in a book, which the
investor, which investigates in shouldn't call the W files.
True reports of Wisconsin has unexplained phenomena by J
wrath. He author writes, it was
rumored. However, that the wheat and the
pancakes was of an unknown type dr.
Hynek wrote in his report, there's no question that
mistress. I might've felt that his contact
had been a real experience, the official Air Force, verdict of
the Simonton pancake incident. Labeled it as unexplained, which
says, a lot for those guys because they had a tendency to
explain everything was some sort of Quite frankly off and
ridiculous explanation. Now, here's another article,
this is called Cult of the weird Cult of the weird.com title is
Joe symington and the UFO pancakes that time that time,
Aliens trip, excuse me, serve breakfast in rural Wisconsin and
says aliens come to Wisconsin, 1961 and served Eagle River
resident Jo symington, some bizarre, extraterrestrial
pancakes. And it's got a couple different
pictures here, mr. Simonson was Sam.
Most of these pancakes. There is no story of The
Unexplained more bizarre more outlandish from or Wisconsin
than the one. I'm about to relate to you.
The author says at 11 a.m. on April 18th. 1961, Joe symington
was sitting in his rule Eagle River, home, enjoying a late
breakfast, when he heard a commotion outside, when he
investigated, he witnessed a flying saucer brighter than
Chrome, hovering above his house, the craft, he eventually
landed in his backyard, the saucer opened up.
Sitting inside were three, mute. Aliens was Joe described as
italian-looking. Now, notice here.
The author says that the sauce for opened up, and that's what
that's what mr. Simonton said in the interviews
that I heard him, he didn't say anything about opening a gate on
the side of the craft. He said just opened up.
He described his thing as being basically, two bowls, you know,
connected together seamless, and they just opened up and that's
what is reported here in this article.
I think maybe they didn't maybe they've done a little better job
of accurately reporting. What Happened says, Joe is given
a larger context, was given a large container and somehow
discerned. These strange creatures wandered
water. Now he says the interview that
the guy was making Motions like he needed something to drink and
so you know he had assumed it was Waters 1961 after all when
he returned and I think he said he wanted the basement.
Got the water, I'm not sure he but he went back to the house no
matter what he says. When you return with the liquid,
one of the aliens was cooking pancakes on a flameless cooking.
Appliance the creatures gave Joe, the pancakes saluted, him
and flew away South into Legend, despite the incredible even
silly details of the story. It was investigated by the
United States Army, United States, Air Force and is listed
in their files as unexplained if you're wondering.
Joe tried one of the pancakes which he said, quote tasted like
cardboard, he gave you the other two cakes to a Vilas County
ufologists, I'm not certain what ever became of these tasteless
culinary. It is, somebody might ask Tom
DeLonge, maybe he has a Joe symington holding an alien.
Peyton, here's another picture of this one appears to be really
burnt in the one picture and like I said, I don't know, a
couple inches wide, maybe three inches long, very porous.
Looking looks more like a something you'd find laying on
the beach somewhere. Then, what you'd want to eat
shortly following this incident, several more sightings occurred
in the entire ordeal is covered in the Great Entertaining,
detail and j.r. S Book.
The why files now, there's one other article.
I want to look at here that I thought was also Pretty
interesting. Just to give us maybe a little
more clarity on this thing. Don't forget it was in 1966.
Five years later, they had the multiple sightings across
Michigan. I think in Wisconsin.
Also there was a lot of activity going on in the country at this
time. Now this here is from UFO
Wisconsin.com. The art, it says, date April,
18th, 1961 11 a.m. location Eagle, River, County Vilas
Source. The I know the magana compiled
by shock valet and published in his book passport to magana
database entry 517. Well, you don't do much better
and Rockville. A my opinion details of
incident. J Simonton heard a whining sound
and saw an object 10 meters, in diameter of say 35 feet and 4
meters high 12-foot. Yes, we said 12 foot.
With exhaust pipes around the periphery, land near his house.
A door was open and a man appeared about five foot tall.
You were a black turtleneck. Pull over what the white
turtleneck belt. Now in the into interview, he
describes his belt as being like metallic.
He thought maybe and black trousers but vertical, White
Band along the side. Two figures were visible inside
the object. Simonton Old a jug with water
returned it to the man who gave him three ordinary pancakes.
And the craft took off night. Brit somewhere else, said it was
for, they also say here that this same made a whining sound,
which I believe is what he said in the interview that I listen
to. You'll remember that the other
author reported it as being knobby tires on pavement.
It's funny how things just get confused sometimes, but I have
to go the valets. You know, report on it because
he's done so much good work. Wisconsin's strange, his Close
Encounter of the Third Kind must, surely be the incident
during which Joe symington was given three pancakes by
italian-looking aliens Close. Encounter of the Third Kind is
an actual meeting between humans and extraterrestrials.
And simultaneous is easily the state's best known despite the
unlikely matter in which the story unfolded, the episode
survived at rigorous assessment by the US Air Force and is
carried and their files is Explain a 1961, Joe symington
was a plumber, auctioneering Santa Claus, annually for the
Eagle River. Chamber of Commerce.
He reported his ages, 55 or 60. Now, I've read, 60, depending on
the interview at 11 a.m. April 18th.
Simonton was having a late breakfast.
When he heard a sound like that of a jet being throttled back,
something like the sound of knobby tires on wet pavement.
That's a quote from him. He went into the yard and saw a
flying saucer. Sir drop out of the sky and
hover over his farm. It was silver and brighter than
Chrome 12 feet in height than 30 feet in diameter on one Edge.
We're what appeared to be exhaust pipes six or seven
inches in diameter. So that's describing multiple
exhaust pipes. Now this that's the description
from him, the disk landed and a hatch opened inside were three,
dark-skinned aliens each about five foot tall and weighing
about 125 pounds. I think he said 120 in the
interview. I was listening to, they
appeared to be between 25 and 30 years old, and were dressed in
dark blue or black knit uniforms with turtleneck tops.
And I'm like caps. They were clean.
Shaven, Simonton said and italian-looking.
The aliens did not speak in his presence but they had a silver
jug with two handles heavier than aluminum but lighter the
steel about a foot high. It seemed to be made out of the
same material as the craft Simon has said, it was a beautiful
thing. A thermos jug like bottle, quite
unlike any jog I've ever seen before here on Earth through ESP
or something. Simon.
Got the idea to the aliens wanted water.
He left the visitors. Filled The Jug from the water
pump in his basement, then returned to the craft and gave
the jug back to do this, he had to brace himself against the
UFOs Hall and stretch up from the subsequent Air Force report.
Looking into the saucer. He saw a man cooking on some
kind of a flameless cooking. Appliance, the alien Was
preparing his pancakes. Now, that's a much better
description than we had in both the other articles.
I mean, I mean, valet just draws a word picture for us right
there. He describes how he had.
He says, he had to brace himself against the UFOs Hall and
stretch up. So he's richness, drugged up
into the craft. From the subsequent.
You have over Port. Looking into the saucer, he saw
a man cooking on some kind of flameless cooking.
Appliance, the alien Was preparing pancakes, the interior
of the UFO was dull black, even the three Namely beautiful
instrument panels. Even the three extremely
beautiful instrument instrument panels and had the appearance of
wrought iron. So the interior of the UFO was
dull, black, even the extremely beautiful instrument panels,
that's weird. So the instrument panels were a
dull black but their parents are wrought.
Iron but he describes them as extremely beautiful, the
contrast between the dark interior and the shiny exterior
so fascinated Simonton that he later said that he would love to
have a room painted in the same way man.
You wonder if if he wasn't under some kind of Of my control at
this point where they were just you know bombarding his thought
process with these positive feelings.
I'm not sure how you would, how you would view these instrument
panels that were this drab dull black caller with the appearance
of wrought iron how that how that would make you perceive
them as extremely beautiful. It does seem to me like he was
under some sort of Mind Control at this point.
As says, in return for the water.
One of the aliens, the only one with narrow.
No red trim on his trousers presented, Simonton with three
of the pancakes hot from The Griddle as he did.
So, the alien touched his own forehead.
Apparently, a salute to Simonton for his help.
Simonton saluted back. Each of the pancakes was roughly
3 inches, in diameter, and perforated with small holes.
Of course, you can see pictures of those pancakes.
The head alien then contacted then connected.
A line were built to a hook in his clothing and the hatch
closed. The saucer Rose about 20 feet
and took off to the south at a 45 degree.
Angle its wake left, a blast have are that toss the trops
that toss the tops of nearby pine trees?
The craft took only 2 seconds to disappear from view.
This thing's really traveling at a high rate of speed, obviously,
it says, Simonton 81 of the pancakes.
Essentially in the interest of science, it tasted like
cardboard, he told the Associated Press, the other two
pancakes, he gave to Vilas County, Judge Frank Carter.
A local UFO enthusiasts Carter who called the aliens saucer
knots. I prefer Italians said he
believes Simonton story since he could not think of any way in
which the farmer might profit from a hoax.
Carter son. Courland told a lawyer in Eagle
River told He's a lawyer in Eagle River.
I recall as a youngster that my dad took it very seriously judge
Carter sent the pancakes to what was then the country's top
investigative group, The National investigations
committee on aerial phenomena. It's in, I see AP.
They refused opportunity to check it out.
That put a damper on Judge Carter is plans.
He had one end to hold a seminar on the incident.
By this time symington said he was hurt by reporters, making
fun of the situation laughing and response to all this Air
Force to spec to civilian UFO investigator, J Allen hynek.
Hynek at the time, was an astronomer at Northwestern
University. He later became convinced that
UFOs are real and founded his own investigative agency which
took over nightcaps files. After that group folded, thanks
to hynek a Northwestern University committee and the Air
Force's, technical Intelligence Center.
Analyzed one assignment is pancakes and I've found it to be
made of flour sugar and grease, it was rumored, however, that
what was in the pancakes was of unknown type.
Well, the problem I have with this is that if, this judge,
Carter had sent these often, I cap and then apparently, they
sent him back to him and refused to test them.
How do we know we got the original ones back?
Really, you have a, you have a broken chain of custody.
The official Air Force assessment of it?
All says, this case is unexplained quote.
The only serious flaw in the story is The Disappearance of
The Craft and two seconds. The rest of the story did not
contain any outrageous to physical Concepts reads, report,
really a craft just hovering over your house and quietly
Landing in your backyard and people attempting to communicate
with you telepathically. That's normal.
Wow, I guess I didn't know that. Simon answered questions
directly, did not contradict himself insisted on the facts
being exactly as he stated and refused to accept embellishments
for modifications. He stated, he was sure that we
wouldn't believe him, but he didn't care.
Whether he was believed he stated simply that his that this
happened and that was that the private Air Force response was
Unearthed. After a little detective work,
it comes from a UFO handbook for Air Force personnel written by
Lloyd Malin and issued in a popular addition of and
mechanics. And the book bound refers to JS.
A highly regarded much respected citizen of Eagle River.
Wisconsin, small, rural community noted for its
attractiveness to tourist, it goes on.
And says, One Air Force investigator.
Going to melon said that Simonton appear quite sincere to
me. It did not appear to be the
perpetrator of a hoax, but add an Air Force Aeronautical
Systems division psychiatrist believe that Simonton had
suffered, a loose Nations and subsequent delusion.
There are technical Intelligence Center investigators, had cases
of this type could be interest to the mental health of the
individual. If he became upset due to the
experience, it was pointed out that experiences, this type
hallucinations followed by delusion are not at all uncommon
especially in rural communities. Yes, I suppose.
That's because we're all the delusional people live at,
right? At least to the city Folk and
says, additionally according to Malin the Air Force, took to
heart and unsubstantiated rumors, circulate about one
circulated by among others. Raymond Palmer, a publisher of
Pulp Flying Saucer and science fiction magazines.
Palmer reported the Air Force, his belief that Simonton had
been hypnotized by an Eagle River.
Real estate broker and was fed to Pancake story so that he
would repeat it and appeared. Truthful.
The motivation for this was economic for the purpose of a
miniature Disneyland. That Israel was being built in
the area. Yeah.
I don't think that ever happened to understand how incredible the
rumor was. It is useful to look at the
credibility of Palmer himself. One of his favorite theories was
that flying saucers came from a secret Hollow Earth
civilization, ruled by a race called detrimental robots which
he abbreviated as deras. According to Palmer the Arras
manipulated Humanity, blah blah, blah.
This just goes to show that you had a credible report of the UFO
alien Encounter and you have government agents going to the
extreme. Extreme means of quoting a
science fiction writer who seems to be a little bit detached from
reality himself. Now it concludes here is says
but based on such sound evidence are technically quote-unquote,
the technical Intelligence Center which headquarter the Air
Force UFO investigation, let the matter drop publicly.
It was a mystery, the class of the classified reason, rebuild
them Allen was that the Air Force would not pursue.
Matter due to the possibility of causing Simonton and
embarrassment which might prove dangerous to his health.
Yeah, they'd been really. They've been very careful about
not embarrassing people. We saw that happen, five years
later, and the Dexter Michigan UFO case with Frank mannor.
And when they labeled labeled him, when they imply that he
wasn't smart enough to recognize swamp gas when he saw it and he
describes how he Was more or less just terrorized by the
community humiliated, and people broke broke out, the, his car
window. I mean, just a lot of nonsense,
so it, it kind of doesn't conform to reality to think that
these people really concerned about the mental health of a
witness that's that their behavior in the past really
doesn't go along with that too good.
And then it finishes up here says this for assignment himself
in the end, he was left with a bitter taste in his mouth and it
wasn't it. Um the pancakes and quote, I
haven't been able to work for three weeks.
He told the United Press International, I'm going to have
to start making some money. He said, the next time he saw a
flying saucer he would keep it to himself.
And then it says he lied in 1970s.
I'm Tim was visibly. Alexander UFO enthusiasts active
in detroit-based. Investigative group Simonton
told Alexandra that he had had more visits from the aliens but
he had not told anyone. Because of the way his first
report had been received and that is all we know.
Okay. They're saying he lied because
that's a little miss lady. He said that if you had another
experience he wouldn't talk about it but he did.
Talk about it. Well, I wouldn't say that's
lying. I would say he changed his mind.
I think that would be a much better way to put that, I would
say. He changed his mind in 1970,
Simonton was visited by Lee Alexander a UFO and through
Susie assist active in a Detroit base investigative group.
Simonton told Alexander that he had had more visits from the
aliens, but he had not told anyone because of the ways,
first report had been received. Well, you can't hardly blame the
guy for that and for people to get repeat business.
From these things that's nothing out of the ordinary, what a
strange case. So and makes you feel sorry for
the old guy. I mean you can imagine what he
had to go through and they're really cool but he had to put up
with, you know, and that small community that he lived in.
I almost feel like there's something more to the story with
Alan hynek leaving this thing listed as unsolved.
Because, you know, we know the history of the Air Force, had a
solving cases where they had to call on Swamp gas, or Venus or
whatever they had to do. This one, they just couldn't
quite do anything with. Until next time, this is UFO
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