1 00:00:05,250 --> 00:00:07,370 Hello and welcome to the program UFO Warning. 2 00:00:07,450 --> 00:00:10,730 In this episode we're talking about the UFO Watchtower. 3 00:00:10,970 --> 00:00:12,930 That's correct, the UFO Watchtower. 4 00:00:13,290 --> 00:00:17,490 This of course is located out in the San Luis Valley, Colorado. 5 00:00:18,010 --> 00:00:20,570 Pretty cool stuff actually. I found this article over on 6 00:00:20,570 --> 00:00:23,370 Road Trippers. It begins by it's dated August 7 00:00:23,370 --> 00:00:26,570 4th, 2020 and starts out. It says it started as a joke, 8 00:00:26,650 --> 00:00:29,970 but Colorado's UFO Watchtower is now a hotspot for mysterious 9 00:00:29,970 --> 00:00:31,720 sightings. Got a picture here? 10 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,040 The San Luis Valley, known as the Bermuda Triangle of the 11 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,280 West, has been a hot spot for out of this world activity for 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,960 centuries. Articles written by Joe Rogers 13 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,720 and Rd. trippers. I have to tell you, they've got 14 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,040 a camping site here. Man, these people could do a 15 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:47,920 little bit better job cleaning up after themselves. 16 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,120 But this seems to be out here, middle of this very dry, almost 17 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:55,840 desert environment. And they've got this, well, I 18 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,400 guess they call it a tower. It looks like it's maybe 1 1/2, 19 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,720 two stories tall, kind of a fenced in area around the top of 20 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,800 it there. And you can just kind of take 21 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,760 the steps up there and, and have a look over the plains and look 22 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,680 for UFOs, I guess. It says. 23 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,040 As evening descends over the UFO watchtower in South Central 24 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:17,560 Colorado, the heavens transform into a mesmerizing black canvas 25 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:21,200 sprinkled by twinkling stars and distant galaxies too numerous to 26 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,400 imagine. With it comes overwhelming 27 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,800 stillness and a profound sense of isolation. 28 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,160 I've never seen a UFO. No rotating saucers or strange 29 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,440 objects zigzagging and speeding across the sky. 30 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,680 The only aliens I've encountered are the plastic figures shrouded 31 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,840 in darkness below me, but they aren't giving up any secrets. 32 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,680 Standing along that viewing platform, I focus my attention 33 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,840 on a large swath of sky above Sangra de Cristo Mountains range 34 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,920 near Great Sand Dunes National Park, where many unexplained 35 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,400 sightings have been witnessed. Then I wait, it's got some 36 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,800 pictures here, you can tell. Just really no light pollution 37 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,760 to speak of. Beautiful night sky view. 38 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,640 An hour goes by, nothing, nothing happens. 39 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,240 My thoughts drift to little green men with big eyes, Scully 40 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,000 and Moulder encounters and abductions. 41 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,600 Are the stories true? Are we being visited by 42 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,560 travelers from faraway corners of the universe? 43 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,040 It's like Carl Sagan once said, it's just us. 44 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,000 Seems like an awful waste of space. 45 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,840 I rest my feet on the platform's metal railing to get 46 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,080 comfortable. Another hour goes by. 47 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,440 Just as I get U to stretch, a thin white light maybe a quarter 48 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:28,360 mile to the east blinks on and off, low and quick across the 49 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,240 sky. There's no sound. 50 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:36,360 Judy Miscellini's UFO Watchtower is located 2 miles north of 51 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,400 Hooper Co. If it weren't for the ride, the 52 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,920 cosmic Hwy. signs where green aliens along Hwy. 17 pointing to 53 00:02:42,920 --> 00:02:45,920 the pointing the way, her quickie roadside attraction 54 00:02:45,920 --> 00:02:49,800 resembling a space ship might be lost to the vastness of the San 55 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,440 Juan of the San Luis Valley all together. 56 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,960 But earlier in the afternoon, as I sit with Miscellini at a table 57 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,640 just a few steps from a small gift shop, the place is busy. 58 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,600 We were closed for four months because of the coronavirus, she 59 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,800 says, lighting a cigarette. Her voice is soft and small 60 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,640 wrinkles appear around her eyes as she squints in the midday 61 00:03:09,640 --> 00:03:12,120 sun. Her gold sparkle nail Polish 62 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,320 glistens and she wears multi colored alien head socks. 63 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,520 But now we're open. It's been kind of a zoo. 64 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,000 Lots of people. Some call the San Luis Valley 65 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:23,920 the Bermuda Triangle of the West. 66 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,400 It has been a hot spot for mysterious sightings dating back 67 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:31,160 to the Spanish conquistadors in the 1560s, and now Miscellaneous 68 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,080 Place lies almost smack dab in the middle of it. 69 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,120 For her, however, all this started as one big joke. 70 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,040 I came here to raise cattle in 1995, Miscellany says chuckling. 71 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,360 When I met the locals they were all telling me UFO stories and I 72 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,880 just giggle saying we needed a watchtower. 73 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:51,040 Well I struggled with cows for 4 1/2 years because they don't eat 74 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,880 sand very well and had to sell the herd. 75 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,120 Then one day I ran into one of the farmers here at a gas 76 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,760 station and he said I should build that watchtower I always 77 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:01,440 laugh about. So I did. 78 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,480 Initially this was just going to be a little old mom and pop 79 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,120 business to catch tourist traffic. 80 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,760 Well, we had other tourist traffic come around too. 81 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:14,320 Since opening in May 2231, tourists, quote UN quote from 82 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,079 outer space have allegedly visited the area. 83 00:04:17,079 --> 00:04:18,880 So I'm guess we're talking about UF OS. 84 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:23,360 I've seen 28 myself. Miss Lee says the closest one 85 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,040 was between here and the mountains. 86 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:29,640 It was narrow and really long and zipped across the sky. 11 O 87 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,280 clock at night. And we had over a dozen people 88 00:04:32,280 --> 00:04:35,440 here who saw it. We had two last night that come 89 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,480 in spurts. In 20 years, the Watchtower has 90 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,320 attracted more than 30,000 human visitors. 91 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,640 I first visited in 2017. Most, like myself, are curious 92 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,400 passersby. Some have claimed to be actual 93 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,440 beings from Pluto in Sirius. One was a high-ranking 94 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,840 government official who, according to Miss Lean, pulled 95 00:04:53,840 --> 00:04:56,840 out his cell phone and showed me a picture of a being coming out 96 00:04:56,840 --> 00:04:59,520 of the ocean. No matter who visits, this one 97 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,720 time skeptical rancher has created a safe place for people 98 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,880 to share their experiences. She's heard too many stories to 99 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,520 brush things off. I'm interested in that situation 100 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,480 with the high-ranking government official who has a picture of an 101 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:16,000 alien coming out of the ocean on their cell phone that's got my 102 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,520 attention. Goes on and says people don't 103 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,280 get made fun of her. She says folks will walk up and 104 00:05:21,280 --> 00:05:22,920 I'll ask if they've seen anything. 105 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,280 A lot of them just hang their heads, so I'll let it go. 106 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,520 But after they've been here a bit, they'll open up and tell me 107 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,520 about what they've seen. Not all these people are crazy. 108 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,960 Not far from us, kids pose for pictures with the alien figures 109 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,480 and what Miss Lane calls her healing garden. 110 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,040 Here, numerous psychics have reaffirmed the existence of two 111 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,720 large beings protecting spinning vortexes. 112 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,640 Those beings are here to protect the vortexes but also help 113 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,000 people in times of need. As a result, Miss Lane requests 114 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,240 that people leave something behind to receive good energy. 115 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,520 Now everything from photos and business cards to pins, keys, 116 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,720 toys, and even personal items of lost love fills the garden. 117 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,960 Okay, maybe I just mistook that for trash when I saw these 118 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:05,800 pictures of all this stuff laying around there. 119 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,160 It's kind of hilarious. Soon our conversation takes us 120 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,600 into the gift shop. Newspaper clippings, shot 121 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:16,040 glasses, photos taken of objects nearby and even messing his own 122 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,280 book, The Crazy Lady down the road are on. 123 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,720 On display near the register are two binders full of sightings, 124 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,840 written accounts of dancing lights, dish shaped crafts and 125 00:06:24,840 --> 00:06:27,760 even a few detailed drawings each witnessed here on the 126 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,240 property. Sensing my interest, Messeline 127 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,640 mentions what various psyches have told her over the years. 128 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,640 They each stand in the same spot in the shop and ask why did you 129 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:39,800 put this here? She says. 130 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:44,000 I told them it just felt right. Well, then they would say, you 131 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,040 know, that there's a crashed ship under here. 132 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,760 I just thought, yeah, right. But when you hear it over and 133 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,200 over, then you start thinking it might be true. 134 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,360 When it Mesling pressed one particular second for more 135 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,920 answers, asking just how big the ship was. 136 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,160 The answer astonished her. And she said it's a mother ship. 137 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,880 It's a mile longwell, that would be something to drill for, 138 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,160 wouldn't it? Mesling grabs another binder and 139 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,920 opens it. Inside are detailed drawings 140 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,440 that the psychic made for her that day, each depicting a large 141 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,880 disc shaped object with a Dome in the center. 142 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,440 One day a group from the Navy came out here. 143 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,800 She says my son said not to tell them about the Christ ship, no 144 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,520 matter what. Well, I did, and you know, they 145 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,760 didn't seem surprised. I leave Meslene wondering 146 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,920 whether any of the stories she tells me are actually true. 147 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:33,560 Well, I don't know. Are you? 148 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,720 Is the author here suggesting that she's lying to him or the 149 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,760 people are lying to her? I mean, to me, the lady's just 150 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,080 being upfront and honest. You can. 151 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,800 Whether she's being told tall tales or actual experiences 152 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,960 people have, I mean, yeah, I can't say for sure, but I'm 153 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,520 certainly open to such possibilities. 154 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,080 Now, as I squint into the darkness, trying to follow the 155 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,040 strange white light, I don't know what to think. 156 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,920 As it travels, SI look down at the supposed at the supposed 157 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,320 mothership buried deep in the ground below me. 158 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,960 When I look again, the lights course low and straight, doesn't 159 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,080 change for another 15 seconds. Then just as quickly as it 160 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,160 appeared, it blinks one last time. 161 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,000 It disappears. Yeah, I think you've been a 162 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,960 skeptic sometime. We'll run into these things. 163 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,680 Let's take a look at this next article talking about this San 164 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,760 Luis Valley. I found this newspaper article 165 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:28,280 over at the cia.gov. That's right, cia.gov, I guess 166 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,840 they call it that. Their reading room says approved 167 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:37,280 for release 2001 April 2nd. Now it's a newspaper article so 168 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,600 I'm not really sure why it would need to be approved for release, 169 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,480 but I guess that's how they do things. 170 00:08:42,919 --> 00:08:47,440 Title says pair of Pueblo use photograph, strange light in San 171 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:54,000 Luis Valley and then the dateline on this is Alamosa CSJ 172 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,800 written by R Spencer Darling. I'm not seeing the name of the 173 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:04,240 newspaper on this. Anyway, says what appears to be 174 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,720 a significant UFO sighting has been photographed by two Pueblo 175 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,840 youths who travelled to the San Luis Valley for that purpose. 176 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,200 A detailed report of the sighting, complete with a 177 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:19,000 chronological log written during the sighting, has been forwarded 178 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,440 to Doctor Edward U Condon's office in Boulder, Co. 179 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,160 Condon has AUS Air Force sponsored investigation into 180 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,760 UFOs. Edward Boggs, 19, and Bill 181 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:34,720 Mcfreder's, 19, drove to the San Luis Valley Friday evening, 182 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,120 complete with sleeping bags and $8 for gas and food. 183 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,080 OK, so this must have been a while. 184 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,480 I mean, like a lot of these newspapers, it's not giving us 185 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:46,640 the details that we need, but just think about that $8 for gas 186 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,120 and food and it's talking about Edward Condon. 187 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,440 So I'm guessing this is back maybe in the 60s or 70s. 188 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,560 Edward Boggs, 19, and Bill Mcferry's, 19, drove to the San 189 00:09:56,560 --> 00:09:59,640 Luis Valley Friday evening, complete with the sleeping bags 190 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:04,000 and $8 for gas and food, and they entered Alamosa about 9:30 191 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,360 PM. Stopping at a local drive in, 192 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,720 they found it difficult to get a straight answer as to the 193 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:13,600 location of the King Ranch, the site of numerous UFO sightings. 194 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,600 People are reluctant to talk or else made a joke of the whole 195 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,160 UFO business. Mcfarry said. 196 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,560 A car hop finally furnished the information and the youths 197 00:10:23,560 --> 00:10:27,960 arrived at the ranch, 20 miles northeast of Alamosa about 10:30 198 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,440 PM. The ranch is located about 1/4 199 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:34,920 mile West of the Sand Dudes Rd. Boggs and Mcfederys passed the 200 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:39,560 ranch interest by about 3/4 of a mile and turned E onto A Rd. up 201 00:10:39,560 --> 00:10:43,600 the side of Mount Blanca. From a vantage point about 3/4 202 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,680 of mile up the mountains overlooking the valley, they set 203 00:10:46,680 --> 00:10:49,480 up their camera on a tripod and be in their watch. 204 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,800 Mcfedery's first entry in the log was 11:00 PM. 205 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:58,600 From then until 1:20 AM, the entry reported no sightings. 206 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:04,000 At 1:20 AM, Boggs said it was like someone turned on a light. 207 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:08,680 There out in the Prairie was a brilliant white diffused light 208 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,760 about the size of a penny, about 50 times larger than the dots of 209 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,480 light made by cars and the lights of Alamosa in the 210 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,920 distance. They took two photographs of it 211 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,880 quote to prove to ourselves the next day that we really saw 212 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,160 something. the US watched the light and its antics until 3:00 213 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,040 or 4:00 AM. During this time it traveled N 214 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,880 it appeared to go to the Great Sand Dunes National Monument. 215 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:37,680 Then it headed toward their car and finally swung in an arc back 216 00:11:37,680 --> 00:11:40,880 to the site it was first seen. During this trip, the UFO 217 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,800 travelled at varying speeds, the slight changing intensity and 218 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,960 color. All the time the object remained 219 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:50,120 below the horizon from the used vantage point up on Mount 220 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,880 Blanca, Macfrederick said he finally fell asleep and Boggs 221 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,760 continued the vigil until the object blinked out at three O 222 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,000 4:00 AM. Boggs said the experience was 223 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,600 frightening, particularly when the object headed toward the 224 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,920 car, even though the UFO was several miles away. 225 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,280 The youth plans to return to the watch for the object this 226 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,480 weekend. Just seems like a cool story. 227 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,640 These two teenage kids out there happened just to go out on a 228 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:17,160 whim right after the San Luis Valley And what do they see 229 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,360 within the first couple hours? A UFO. 230 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:20,840 Let's take a look at this next article. 231 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,520 I found this article over at cyberwest.com. 232 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,200 Kind of gives a bit more background at Soul San Luis 233 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,280 Valley and the UFO phenomena. This is dated January 10th, 234 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,080 1996. A fairly old article, the 235 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,360 mysterious San Jui Valley part one that says if someone told 236 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,760 you there was a single geographic region with 237 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,080 indigenous legends telling up doorways used by star people 238 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:45,400 piloting flying seed pods. Hundreds of UFO sightings, The 239 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,280 first publicized unusual animal death case. 240 00:12:48,560 --> 00:12:52,520 Waves of cattle mutilations, Bigfoot encounters, alien 241 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:56,400 abductions, rumors of secret underground bases and the 242 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,920 world's most unusual sand dune desert? 243 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,720 Would you believe them? And if they told you a large 244 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,760 phantom fire was recently reported in this area to local 245 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,120 sheriff's by NORAD during a still continuing UFO siding 246 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,400 flap? Or that it was a place where 247 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:14,360 various localized spooklights lurk up the road from towns 248 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:18,000 where a legendary devil makes occasional appearances, all 249 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:22,160 within sight of privately owned 14,000 Foot mountains. 250 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,800 Would you believe such a place existed? 251 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,320 Well imagine that, your own 14,000 foot tall mountain. 252 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,640 Welcome to South Central Colorado and North Central New 253 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:37,840 Mexico's San Luis Valley. Not well known to the outside 254 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,040 world. This roughly 150 mile by 45 mile 255 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,880 wide wishbone shaped area running north to South is 256 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,560 considered to be the world's largest Alpine valley and maybe 257 00:13:47,560 --> 00:13:49,760 one of America's most anomalous regions. 258 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,640 The semi arid desert valley floor, perched at an elevation 259 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:58,720 of 7600 feet, averages less than 6 inches of rainfall a year and 260 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,320 is completely ringed by majestic mountains, many of which are 261 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:06,160 over 13,000 feet high. This mysterious valley is hidden 262 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,400 from the outside world in many ways. 263 00:14:08,680 --> 00:14:11,320 The San Luis Valley, like many other regions around the world, 264 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,680 has always had its share of reported sightings and 265 00:14:13,680 --> 00:14:15,520 encounters. Going back as far as the early 266 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:19,040 1930s, many of these alleged events were covered extensively 267 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:20,800 by local and regional news newspapers. 268 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,000 Over the past 30 years or so there have been intensive 269 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,800 so-called flat periods of increased UFO sightings and of 270 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,120 unusual animal deaths mutilations, often with 271 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,480 simultaneous periods that are reporting both phenomena. 272 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,080 So here we get this connection again between the UFO sightings 273 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,080 and a cattle mutilations and it goes on and talks about Native 274 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,360 American myths. Could some of the most 275 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:46,600 intriguing clues we have in regards to aspects of the UFO 276 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,480 and unusual animal death phenomena lie in the mythic 277 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,720 tradition of this and possibly other unique bioregions in the 278 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,520 Southwestern United States? We do know that 12 different 279 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,080 Indian tribes use the San Luis Valley as a sacred hunting and 280 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,400 vision quest area. No Native American ventured into 281 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,440 the valley during the winter months, where it is not uncommon 282 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:13,200 to find nighttime temperatures at -20° for weeks at a time. 283 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,080 Wow. Although no Indians lived in the 284 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,360 San Luis Valley full time, the oldest known continuously 285 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:23,480 inhabited dwellings in North America, the Teos Pueblo, are 286 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,200 found at the extreme southern edge of the valley. 287 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,640 Several southwestern Indian tribes consider the San Luis 288 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:33,520 Valley, most specifically the San Luis Lakes area, to be the 289 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:37,240 location of the Sipacu, or place of emergence. 290 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,440 The Indians believe that they were led underground to safety 291 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,360 at this location just before a cleansing period of earth 292 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,920 changing changes. The Navajo version mentions our 293 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,320 current time periods being the end of the fifth world according 294 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,280 to their tradition. They were warned of the opening 295 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,440 cataclysms by sky Cucina's fireballs. 296 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:59,200 Question mark. Yeah, I think the Cucina's are 297 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,800 represented by these cucina dolls, if I remember correctly. 298 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,640 Kind of strange looking creatures. 299 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:07,400 The Navajo tradition of companies. 300 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,560 Someone correct me if I'm wrong on that. 301 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:15,360 It says Kachina's signaling them the time to travel to the Sipaku 302 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,600 was at hand. Once underground. 303 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,840 He said they were cared for by Ant people for several 304 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,320 generations until it was safe to re emerge and repopulate the new 305 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,160 world. And for a lot of us, these Ant 306 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,560 people sounded awful lot like these insectoid aliens. 307 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:34,200 Very strange creatures indeed. Just southwest of the Sipacu 308 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,600 stand the tallest collection of promontories in the valley. 309 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,560 The Blanca Massa, which is considered to be the sacred 310 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:44,520 mountain of the east to most southwestern tribes, is the area 311 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:48,640 where Navajo, say Star people, enter into our reality aboard 312 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,160 flying seed pods. This impressive group of 313 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,560 mountains lies at the western edge of a maximum intensity 314 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:59,600 aeromagnetic zone. The Sipapu lies just to the West 315 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,720 of the Blanca Massif and the Great Sand Dunes at the eastern 316 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,760 edge of a minimum intensity aeromagnetic zone. 317 00:17:06,079 --> 00:17:10,079 The Great Sand Dunes National Monument is the world's highest 318 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,440 and probably strangest dune field, rising almost 700 feet 319 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,720 above the valley floor. The age of this 50 square mile 320 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,400 pile of sand is still not precisely known. 321 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:24,000 Official dating puts this age at at least 11,000 years, but it 322 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,119 could be older. Some of the earliest traces of 323 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,280 man in North America can be found within 10 miles of this 324 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:34,000 enigmatic wonder Man may have visited here before the dunes 325 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,280 were formed. Action that then, it says. 326 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,880 Who are the saucer pilots? The modern documented history of 327 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,600 unexplained occurrences in San Luis Valley began in the early 328 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,000 1950s when green fireballs were seen and reported by thousands 329 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,160 of people all across northern New Mexico and southern 330 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,600 Colorado. In mid 1960s, one San Luis 331 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,840 Valley man reported and publicly insisted that he had experienced 332 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,240 contact and interaction with aliens. 333 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:04,400 Robert Witting, an Episcopal minister in Alamosa Co, claimed 334 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:08,200 he had telepathic contact with beings operating a craft that 335 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:12,480 flew next to his car while travelling on US160 late one 336 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,400 night. He alleged they warned him of a 337 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:19,400 large animal in the road just ahead of him and he was able to 338 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:23,160 swerve around a large black dog lying dead in his lane. 339 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,560 He claimed he then convinced to have the first of several 340 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,960 extensive telepathic encounters with the pilots of the craft. 341 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:34,120 From the fall of 1966 through the spring of 1970, there were 342 00:18:34,120 --> 00:18:37,360 hundreds of unidentified flying object sightings and many of the 343 00:18:37,360 --> 00:18:41,440 first documented cases of unusual animal deaths ever 344 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,160 reported. During peak UFO sighting waves 345 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,560 in the late 1960s, dozens of cars would literally line the 346 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,880 roads, watching the amazing aerial displays of unknown 347 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,800 lights and crafts as they converted around in the sky 348 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,640 above the Great Sand Dunes Dry Lake area. 349 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,640 Several published photographs of these objects or lights were 350 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:05,120 taken by witnesses in 1967. It was September 1967 when the 351 00:19:05,120 --> 00:19:08,960 San Luis Valley first gained worldwide recognition with the 352 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,360 celebrated case of Snippy, or otherwise known as Lady the 353 00:19:12,360 --> 00:19:15,640 Horse. I think I did a podcast on that. 354 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:20,520 It seems like maybe the reporter just kind of offhandedly 355 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,480 referred to the horses Snippy and so that wasn't the actual 356 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,200 name, but it just stuck with the story. 357 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,840 I could be wrong on that, but I have to go back and check. 358 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,160 Snippy was found on the King Ranch at the base of Blanca 359 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:35,400 Massif, missing all the tissue from the tip of her nose to its 360 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,560 shoulders. The heart and brain were missing 361 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,960 and a strange medicine like odor hung over the horse for several 362 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,520 days. There were huge 18 inch giant 363 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,760 horseshoe tracks. Wow. 18 inch giant horseshoe 364 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,680 tracks found near the carcass. And the press claimed Snippy's 365 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:55,080 tracks ended 100 or so feet from where she was found. 366 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,280 Another one of these cases where it looks like the animals 367 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,640 carcass was just dropped off somewhere, you know, from the 368 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,240 sky. The horse's owner Nellie Lewis 369 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,080 told reporters. Flying saucers killed my horse. 370 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,560 And later that they would come out and Force One day. 371 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,560 Although Snippy is widely considered to be the first. 372 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,960 Documented unusual animal death case. 373 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,560 It is not a classic mutilation by definition. 374 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,960 A classic mutilation generally refers to cattle found missing 375 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:24,320 soft tissue organs IE genitalia and or tongue, exposed mandible, 376 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,040 eyes, ears and or the unfortunate animal is drained of 377 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:32,240 blood and fluids, all excisions areas like surgical cuts and the 378 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,880 shrouding crime scene is devoid of blood or any additional 379 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,000 clues. The phenomena may suggest some 380 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,840 kind of experimentation, or I think maybe they're harvesting 381 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,640 the blood. We've talked about vote buying 382 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,680 blood before. After a low of activity in the 383 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:49,120 early 1970s, during a three-year period starting in August 1975, 384 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,320 local law enforcement officials at times were run ragged by the 385 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,720 mysterious cattle surgeons. Dozens of ranches reported 386 00:20:55,720 --> 00:21:00,120 finding livestock, mainly cattle, mutilated, and there is 387 00:21:00,120 --> 00:21:03,560 evidence suggesting that actual numbers of cases was much higher 388 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:04,920 than what was officially reported. 389 00:21:05,360 --> 00:21:07,920 These reported cases, with a few exceptions, featured crime 390 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,200 scenes with an apparent lack of physical evidence such as 391 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,120 tracks, bloods, footprints, etcetera. 392 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,680 The 75 through 78 period in the San Luis Valley reflected what 393 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,600 was going on throughout most of the United States and in parts 394 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,080 of Canada. Unmarked helicopters, buzzing 395 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,840 mutilation sites, numerous UFOs and anonymous light sightings, 396 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:31,480 Widespread press coverage, I would say cover up and generally 397 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,560 indifference by the federal authorities concerning these 398 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:37,080 baffling crimes. Difference, I guess, would be 399 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,800 putting it mildly. And then looks like this. 400 00:21:40,120 --> 00:21:42,400 OK, so the very bottom, it tells us is Christopher O'Brien. 401 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:43,960 Apparently that was the guy that wrote this article. 402 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,720 And this is a Photo by Joseph Falco. 403 00:21:46,360 --> 00:21:50,120 Christopher O'Brien lives in and has personally investigated and 404 00:21:50,120 --> 00:21:52,560 researched the San Luis Valley for five years. 405 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,360 His book, The Mysterious Valley Saint Martin's Press will be 406 00:21:56,360 --> 00:22:00,280 published in mid 1996. He publishes A bimonthly report 407 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,120 concerning reports of analysis of anonymous activity reported 408 00:22:04,120 --> 00:22:07,960 in the San Luis Valley. So definitely credit to Mr. 409 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,440 Christopher O'Brien there. Of course, like I said, a 30 410 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,360 year old article, don't want to know who's still around. 411 00:22:13,360 --> 00:22:17,360 Even from this old, what a cool, what a cool sight. 412 00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:20,920 San Luis Valley there and this idea that, yeah, you've got this 413 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,840 watchtower, people are seeing things on a regular basis. 414 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,120 And then you kind of overlay this with like what this fellow 415 00:22:25,120 --> 00:22:28,240 was talking about, Bigfoot sightings, everything I think 416 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:32,600 from skinwalker to UFOs, pretty much really, really wild stuff. 417 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,360 Until next time, This is UFO warning over and out.