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Hello and welcome to the program
UFO Warning. 

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In this episode, we're talking 
about UFO rods make a comeback 

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in Brazil. 
That's correct. 

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UFO rods make a comeback in 
Brazil. 

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In fact, they're all over the 
place down there in South 

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America. 
These things were really in the 

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news a lot a few years ago, so 
it's fun to go back and look at 

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what happens when we have 
another outbreak of sightings of

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these things. 
That's articles from 

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dailymail.co.uk. 
The headline says exclusive UFO 

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sightings over Brazil, Argentina
and Chile leave experts baffled.

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So the article starts off pretty
good, but you're going to see 

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that it ends up kind of in a 
rut. 

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It says luminous rods have been 
caught on camera over South 

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American countries. 
Videos filmed by residents in 

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Argentina, Chile and Brazil show
the UFOs. 

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And then it goes on and says 
it's written by Josh Boswell for

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dailymail.com, dated May 24th, 
2024. 

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Starts off by saying strange 
luminous rods have been caught 

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on camera in the skies over 
several South American countries

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in the past month. daily.com, 
dailymail.com can reveal. 

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The long white and blue objects 
appear to slowly float across 

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the sky in videos filmed by 
residents in Argentina, Chile 

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and Brazil. 
One stunning example was filmed 

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on April 29th by UFO researcher 
and Petro Boss, engineer Ronnie 

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Burnett on cameras he set up to 
monitor the southeastern night 

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sky near Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.
And of course, Petrobras is a 

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big oil company down there. 
This first picture is pretty 

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cool. 
It has like this almost like an 

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aquamarine blue light. 
It's just a rod. 

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You can just see this thing now.
It doesn't look like it's 

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something streaking across the 
sky leaving a trail. 

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To me, it just looks like this 
strange illuminated rod. 

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An apparent cylindrical object 
glides into the frame at 5 O 

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1:00 AM, heading northeast and 
gradually moving out of sight 

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over about 80 seconds. 
So they're moving quite slow 

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actually, almost hovering. 
That says videos filmed by 

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residents in Argentina, Chile 
and Brazil show UFOs. 

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This particular video was taken 
in Chile on May 6th. 

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I'll put the links over at the 
Kofi site so you can watch this 

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stuff. 
On May 6th, a witness in 

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Argentina filming with their 
phone captured a similar looking

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white object moving slowly 
through the sky above their 

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house. 
The same day, at 7:14 PM in Vina

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Del Mar, Chile, a third witness 
videoed another incident, though

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this time the cylinder appeared 
blue. 

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Another video obtained by Vernet
came from a Chilean witness and 

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Lujan de Cuella. 
The same evening on May 8th, 

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residents of a Brazilian town 
near the border with Uruguay 

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filmed one that appeared to 
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and yellow. 
Really cool. 

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This is another neat photo. 
Here you can see this white one 

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just just hovering there it 
looks like over over the city. 

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It says the same day as the 
Chile sighting, a witness in 

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Argentina filming with their 
phone captured a similar looking

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white object moving slowly 
through the sky above their 

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house. 
Know what they're talking about?

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These things moving snow, moving
slow, not moving so fast that 

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they that they come up as a 
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It has a time. 
Here it says dated 4/29/24. 

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Time 5. 
O1 gives the exact coordinates, 

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exact camera direction, the 
object, and it has it. 

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Ronnie Burnett, he has this 
whole thing signed. 

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So he's telling you exactly 
where these things were filmed 

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at and exactly what time. 
Then one studying video was 

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filmed in Brazil. 
Often a string of lights about 

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as bright as stars, moving 
slowly across the sky will be 

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mistaken for a true UFO when it 
is in fact Starlight. 

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So here's where they start to 
put the poison and the porridge.

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Now, we've been having a nice 
conversation about Roz, showing 

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us pictures describing how they 
very slowly move across the sky.

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And now they want to throw in 
the Starlink boogeyman. 

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Listen, you can look at these 
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They're nothing like the 
Starlink satellites. 

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The satellites are individual 
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moving a high speed to the sky. 
I've seen them many times. 

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I know what Starlink satellites 
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I've also seen UFOs and I've 
seen them up close, so I know 

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what they can look like. 
They don't look a thing like 

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Starlink satellites. 
Now, there's a picture below 

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this and you can see these 
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Looks like four of them living 
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They're red living this blazing 
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Very beautiful photograph taken 
by pilot. 

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And then below them, you see 
this rod just hovering there in 

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the sky as these meteorites go 
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Easy to tell the difference. 
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satellites. 
The string of satellites would 

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have been above where you see 
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These people apparently think 
these salads are floating around

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at the same altitude as 
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It says a stunning photograph 
taken by a FedEx pilot of a 

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meteor burning up in the 
atmosphere with a white BLOB 

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with a white BLOB below it, 
resembling the objects captured 

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by Vernet and the other 
witnesses he gathered. 

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Notice the language is becoming 
a little deceptive. 

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They call this a white BLOB. 
This is not a white BLOB. 

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This is clearly a rod shaped 
UFOI think this article is using

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some. 
Really insidious high levels of 

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mind control where they're 
putting these little bits of 

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doubt in to foreshadow what's 
coming. 

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Later in the article, Vernet 
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4 witnesses in Brazil on May 9th
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experts are baffled as to 
whether the objects are indeed 

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UFOs or the satellite 
constellation Starling. 

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Now see how the author has very 
deceptively set up a, a, a 

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fallacy here. 
He's giving you 2 choices. 

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Well, they're either UFOs or 
satellites. 

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Well, why couldn't you say they 
were flying monkeys? 

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Why couldn't you say these 
things were drones? 

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I mean, so he's put this out 
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This author has said, well, it's
either UFOs or satellites. 

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And then of course he's going to
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got to be satellites, doesn't 
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So you're given this false 
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In other words, you're told 
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one choice you've given in this 
case is a false choice. 

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Instead of this writer just 
being honest and saying, well 

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people are taking pictures of 
things and they look like rods. 

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Now are they all up to no good 
conspiring to fool us? 

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Are they mistaken? 
Who knows? 

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But the last thing these things 
look like are string of 

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satellites. 
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about as bright as stars moving 
slowly across the sky will be 

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mistaken for a true UFO when is 
in fact Starlink, the network of

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satellites launched by Elon 
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But usually those lights will 
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rather than a solid cylinder, 
and will not appear to change 

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color. 
Now he has to say this because 

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anybody with two brain cells 
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I've looked up at the sky and 
I've seen and I've seen these 

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Starling satellites before, and 
they don't look anything like 

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this. 
So he goes ahead and he puts 

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that definition of what these 
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us. 
So now he can establish a little

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commonality with the reader, 
Chris Spitzer, an expert in UFO 

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analysis, told dailymail.com. 
Wait for it that although 

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Starling generally appears as a 
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sky, once it is fully deployed 
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as a solid line due to the 
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together. 
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I've never one time ever seen a 
picture of that. 

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So once it's fully deployed, 
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fully deployed, they were all 
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But what he's actually trying to
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I think maybe some just really 
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that once the rocket launches 
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out of the rocket, they're all 
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So they might look like a rod. 
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together moving at 17,500 miles 
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So I don't think that they're 
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long. 
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people are even going to notice 
that and, and have the time to 

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say, wow, these things just 
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We're talking about a group of 
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and thousands of mph in outer 
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compared to an object that's 
hovering overhead, maybe at the 

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height of an airplane, somewhere
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Big, big difference. 
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objects right after deployment 
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because they're stacked 
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They may. 
Well, I would like for Mr. 

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Spitzer to provide us with one 
picture of that, one image 

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recorded. 
That would be nice, because 

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right now all I have is a lot of
gobbledygook and his opinion? 

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Spitzer shared a likely example.
Now, here you go. 

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More qualitative language. 
OK? 

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When we're discovering these 
UFOs, we're trying to use 

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quantitative methods, dates, 
times, places, very detailed, 

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exact descriptions. 
OK, thinking about things 

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logically, using math, 
quantitative. 

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But these debunkers always want 
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you're a conspiracy theory? 
Oh, you're crazy. 

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And here's some more of this 
qualitative language, He says. 

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Spitzer shared a likely example.
Always giving themselves wiggle 

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room, never wanting to be 
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say. 
Spitzer shared a likely example,

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a stunning photograph taken by a
FedEx pilot of a meteor burning 

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up in the atmosphere with a 
white BLOB below it, resembling 

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the objects captured by Burnett 
and the other witnesses he he 

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gathered. 
The white bright nature of the 

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objects could be just reflected 
sunlight, Spitzer explained. 

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Now this is, to me, it's just, 
maybe it's not a lie because he 

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doesn't know that. 
That's patently untrue. 

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But if you look at this picture,
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coming in, or maybe it was one 
that broke up, whatever. 

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But you see these four 
fireballs. 

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And below that, what you see is 
not a BLOB. 

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What you see clearly is a white 
silvery UFO rod. 

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It's a very distinctive shape. 
But the author here once again 

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is using this qualitative 
language where he can insert his

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opinion and still pretend to be 
telling you the facts, which is 

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not. 
And to say this is, oh, well, 

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this is reflecting the sunlight.
Well, then why didn't the 

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meteorites reflect the sunlight?
Obviously what you have is the 

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meteorites coming in a shower. 
And below that, not in outer 

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space where the meteorites just 
came from, but below the 

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meteorites in an area where the 
planes are flying, you have this

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UFO rod photographed by another 
pilot flying at A at a similar 

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altitude. 
Starlink satellites also 

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generate UFO sightings right 
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When they reflect sunlight, they
are released in one batch with 

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two clamps parallel to each 
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together. 
This could explain some recent 

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sightings, he said. 
More qualitative language, more 

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debunking, more generalization. 
This is not investigation, OK? 

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Nothing close to an 
investigation. 

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Now they go on and they rattle 
on a little bit about the UFO 

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sightings and they rattle on 
about the Starlink launch times.

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They say here on May 6th, the 
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Chile sightings, a Starlink 
satellite was launched from Cape

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Canaveral Space Force Station in
Florida at 6:14 PM local time. 

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The problem is they're launching
these things so often that you 

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could pretty much blame any UFO 
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OK, you could say, well, 
somebody was driving a car from 

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LA to San Diego that day. 
So it must have been them. 

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You are, you are creating 
situation where you've set up 

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this straw man, this satellite, 
the, the, the Starling 

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satellites. 
And so any time a UFO was 

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spotted, well, it must have been
Starlight reflecting off, you 

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know, it must have been sunlight
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It must have been the launch. 
It must have been the rocket 

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coming down. 
It's it's now their go to 

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debunker used to be swamp gas, 
now it's satellites, he says. 

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I am pretty sure startling sets 
also all cap generate UFO 

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sightings right after they are 
deployed, when they reflect 

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sunlight, blah, blah, blah. 
Yeah, yeah, we this is just the 

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same tired excuse. 
I tell you, it really gets old. 

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On May 8th at 6:42 PM, another 
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Space Center on Merritt Island, 
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on the Uruguay border. 
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April 29th when Burnett captured
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launch from Cape L Canaveral at 
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So I guess I just hung around 
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One video is from my camera at a
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said. 
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started to appear in Argentina, 
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I have many videos people sent 
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The only explanation for me 
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satellite train was visible at 
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I wish that someone would tell 
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obligated to explain these 
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That's all you have to do. 
Burnett, who works as an 

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electronics computer engineer at
Brazilian oil firm Petrobras. 

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Petrobras is a prominent UFO 
researcher in Brazil and founder

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of the UAP brazil.com. 
So you have some good pictures, 

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you have some decent reports 
that actually good reports that 

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give you the time, the date to 
place everything that right down

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to the geographical coordinates.
And then the rest of the article

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just focuses on this absolute 
nonsense with Starling Satellite

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and the whole debunking there 
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It's it's, it's, it's outrageous
really. 

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But until we start to have more 
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forums, we can access it without
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This is what we're left with. 
At least we got the pictures out

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of this and we got some facts 
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Now these things have been going
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want to take a look at this 
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happened back. 
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2014. 
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this article here is from 
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November 20th, 2014. 
It says News 9 investigates the 

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phenomena of rods. 
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moments in time, but sometimes 
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something unexplained. 
One man from New Mexico believes

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he's discovered a new life form,
which has spurred a worldwide 

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debate. 
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that they're framing what these 
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light than the previous article.
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moments in time, but sometimes 
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something unexplained. 
One man from Nick, one man from 

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New Mexico believes he 
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which has spurred a worldwide 
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There is a phenomena that exists
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founder and researcher of Rods. 
They're like skyfish. 

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They swim through the air like 
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He first captured a strange 
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1994. 
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insects, birds, you know, 
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the camera, he said 1994. 
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around then. 
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speed, he says he eliminated the
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insect rubber, but something 
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We think it's a living entity of
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It does have behavior of being 
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Set Escamilla. 
They're very evasive. 

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They're super fast. 
Escamilla calls this entity 

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Arod, measuring one to six feet 
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multiple sets of wings. 
We don't know what they're doing

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here, We don't know how long 
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We have rock carvings that 
appear to show rod on cave 

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drawings from 50,000 years ago. 
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into the rod theory. 
Skeptics like Mark Zimmerman, an

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assistant professor of 
photography at the University of

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Central Oklahoma, and Edmond. 
I hate to call myself a skeptic,

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really, but I'm probably labeled
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there's some sort of scientific 
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said Zimmerman. 
Notice the qualitative language 

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he uses. 
Because I just think so. 

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He's appealing to authority, and
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He doesn't say, well, we've 
measured all this stuff and it 

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looks to us like it's this or 
that. 

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No, I just think because I've 
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I'm an assistant professor, I 
think it's interesting and makes

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good for and makes for a good 
topic of discussion. 

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In fact, he discussed the 
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after one of his students, Eric 
Perry, captured what appears to 

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be a rod in a photograph taken 
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It was actually somebody in 
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Perry. 
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took the same photograph at a 
cemetery during different times 

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of the day and the night 
photograph, a white object 

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appeared in the upper 
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People in class joked around 
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likely it was probably a bug or 
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He said the fact that it was in 
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creepy. 
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you. 
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dichotomies where you're given a
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Well, it must have been a bug. 
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Did you set up a controlled 
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where you could eliminate bugs? 
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scientific thing to do. 
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matter if they've got a PhD, 
they don't want to approach this

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stuff quantitatively. 
They want to approach it 

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qualitatively. 
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authorities and they can tell 
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Zimmerman agrees. 
The object is more likely not 

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out of this world. 
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they're going across the sky, 
satellites, things that you 

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typically wouldn't see other 
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Typically when you look up, he 
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Where is with longer shutter. 
When it's open, things will move

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and light will reflect off it. 
I don't know, man, but for a 

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professor, doesn't seem like 
it's that well constructed of a 

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sentence to me. 
Wanting to prove his point, 

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Zimmerman shot a series of 
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exposure times around a porch 
light, capturing what appears to

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be objects similar to rods but 
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Like other camera experts, 
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capable of producing artifacts. 
Something in the picture that 

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wasn't actually there. 
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Especially when you set it up to
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We're not talking about people 
taking pictures at random 

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shutter speeds, talking about 
people just taking a normal 

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picture. 1 frame, one frame. 
It's not. 

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But once again, the debunkers 
one to debunk. 

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Escamillia viewed Perry's 
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the mysterious and says the 
mysterious object is not a rod, 

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but perhaps an airplane. 
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disprove his rod theory. 
Each object has his own certain 

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footprint, a certain pattern of 
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You can tell what an insect 
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bird looks like. 
A dragonfly and a rod is a rod, 

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he says. 
Escamilla says rods can be seen 

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anywhere, but their hotbeds are 
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Canada, Mexico, Texas, Arizona 
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He says they have also been 
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Japan, China, Germany and the 
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Well, now we know South America.
Escamilla has seen rods and 

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photographs and video space and 
even underwater. 

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He even spied a rod in a video 
taken from Sky News 9 during 

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tornado coverage in 1999. 
Those rods are huge. 

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That one white rod that comes 
out of the top of the cloud, 

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That cloud front was 10 miles 
away from the helicopter and it 

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comes out at 3 frames. 
The thing must have been 100 

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feet in length. 
Set Escamilla. 

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So what do you believe? 
Do rods? 

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Do rods exist among us? 
These strange living creatures 

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that appear and disappear in the
blink of an eye, caught at just 

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the right moment in time? 
Now they're talking about these 

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things moving so fast, but the 
ones in South America, people 

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are talking about them actually 
hovering there or moving very 

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slowly. 
I think everyone always has some

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sort of conspiracy on anything. 
I mean, it could be Bigfoot, 

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said Zimmerman. 
The phenomena is real, and for 

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those of you who don't believe 
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You can believe what you want or
disbelieve, but the fact is 

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these things are here, said 
Escamilla. 

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They are doing something here. 
We don't know what they are, but

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they're doing it. 
Escamilla says technology has 

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improved the documentation of 
rods, where he's now able to 

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capture them using infrared 
filters and in high speed 

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footage. 
Well, you can see the different 

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styles of writing in these two 
articles. 

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One, the author spends the 
entire time trying to debunk 

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what's been photographed, and 
the second one the author keeps 

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from 10 years ago. 
The author keeps an open mind 

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and really gives us a delightful
read. 

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At any rate, the rods are back 
in South America, and until next

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time, this is UFO warning over 
now.

