Hello and welcome to the program, you have a warning and
this episode, we're going to take a look at an interview with
the late Budd Hopkins course, but Hawkins was that legend in
the UFO field. He passed away here.
August 21st 2011, But if we look at Wikipedia, we find out that
Bub was born, Elliot Budd Hopkins, June 15th, 1931 and was
raised in Wheeling. West Virginia, says he developed
polio as a child recover from that.
Develop an interest in art, went to school to Oberlin College.
Sounds like he had a pretty good career in the art.
Field actually says his experiment with the collage
techniques and styles and abstract expressionist.
And one him National claim Hopkins, first solo show was
held in New York City in 1956 the same year.
He married, his first wife for 13, Joan Rich, we find out in
1976 Hopson was awarded, a Guggenheim Fellowship does on
tells us that after the publication Of his book missing
time and 1981. Hopkins became known much as
much for his UFO. Abduction, research is for his
art. So this kind of shows us how
sometimes a person's life is going in One Direction and then
maybe it veers off in another here but hot because was a
successful artist but it interest in UFOs.
He writes a book about it and his life is often a completely
different direction. It's just fascinating, if you
look in the buzz life, Because as a self-described humanist,
option saw his work with alleged alien abduction, victims as a
way to bring attention to it. Otherwise, marginalized part of
society as follow-up book. Intruders the incredible
visitation at copeley. Woods published in 1987 helped
establish Hopkins as a prominent researcher and UFO in the UFO
Movement. By 1973 Hopkins, was married to
art critic or destroyed and curator April Kingsley.
With whom. He had a daughter, Grace
Hopkins, their marriage ended in divorce in 91 in 1990, the 1992
made-for-television film Intruders creature.
Fictionalized characters based on the works of Hopkins and
psychiatrist Johnny Mac Johnny Mac is another just legend in
the UFO field and like Hopkins book of the same name.
Rotate portrayed adduction scenes in 1994 Hopkins.
Met writer filmmaker Carol Rainey who became his third
wife, in 1996. They shared a mutual fascination
with alien abduction stories in a quarry draining the pasta.
Building the people on Earth may have been seated here by highly
Advanced beings or a big big from out.
Their quote unquote, the to co-wrote a book sight, unseen
science, UFO and visibility, it's transgenics beings which
was published in 2003 they were married for 10 years.
Also, in 1996, Hopkins book witnessed the story of the
Brooklyn Bridge. UFO Abduction was published the
book. Portrayed, in abduction case,
that was alleged to have occurred late. 1989, the other
Brooklyn Bridge in New York City. 19 and August 21st, 2011,
Hawkins died of complications from cancer, the time of his
death. He was, he was in a relationship
with journalists Leslie Kean, so, but Hawkins had a, he had a
full life, but his main contribution to the UFO
Community, was all these books that you wrote.
And this really non-judgmental approach.
That mr. Hopkins took, when he
interviewed people, that claim to have been abducted, you know,
before the before Bud came along most of these People who would
have been, who would have claimed have had encounters
abductions, would have just been written written off.
Is seriously mentally ill people, marginalized, from
society, made fun of not to say that that might not be the case
in every single case. But but just entertain the
possibility that what if these people are just normal mentally
healthy people and this did happen.
So he just refresh it in a very non-judgmental way and I think
that's so important when Look at the subject is to try to be
non-judgmental about it as much as possible, and then once we
get the facts and we can start to flesh out an opinion.
Now, the interview comes from PBS knife out of here, on
pbs.org, it says, Nova online. Kidnapped by UFOs is a title
written by a, it says, the Linda Case, excerpts from interview
with Budd. Hopkins is cases.
People, who believe they have been abducted by aliens first.
It starts off with the Linda Case it says Hopkins.
The best says the best case I ever worked with, and it's
extraordinary important. And it's the subject of the book
that I'm working on right now. It involves a woman who was
abducted, who I had worked with. Before this experience, she was
abducted from a 12-4 apartment. In Manhattan, floated out the
window. And in this case the UFO
occupants wanted this to be seen for various complicated reasons.
So therefore it was not mass or hidden or what not, even though
it was 3:00 in the morning. This woman was witnessed
floating with the three aliens below the UFO. 12 stories up by
a number of different people who I have heard from.
One of the people who I interviewed at Great length
described. Her absolute Terror when You saw
this site from the Brooklyn Bridge.
Her first attempt to explain it to herself.
This can't happen. Was somebody must be making a
movie. This must be a movie that
because this is impossible, yet, I'm looking at it.
There were other people on their bridge to also terrified.
There are people floating in the air as they described it, people
on the ground, contacted me. They still have not one of their
names use, they have not wanted to talk to me personally for
various reasons, but described exactly the same thing.
I've got matching sets of drawings of what everyone saw
from their experience. Another woman have dealt with
that lengths, all the UFO, right next to the building from which
this woman was floated out. She said it was enormous.
And at that point, somehow, her car stopped and their memories
are very unclear from that point on as if I sum as if somehow or
other as if off, as if often happens.
In these cases, there was some kind of effect, electromagnetic
effect, or whatever. We don't know what to call it,
which stop. Par and their and their memories
only went up to the point of saying that you have to go right
directly next to the building before the people flooded out.
I have another witness at the another location here.
We have eyewitnesses to people doing an impossible, thing,
floating 12 stories up in a beam of light.
There's much much more of the testimony connect with this sum,
which, I'm not at Liberty to present right now.
Now, I've actually done a podcast on this.
We push you go back and look at it.
I think it was called Manhattan Transfer.
Lady says she was just levitated out of her bed.
Floated through and window up into this UFO and I'd have to go
back. I can't swear to this, but it
seems like there might have been an unnamed.
You an unnamed un employee down the street that actually
Witnesses. But but then didn't come
forward, I can't remember. But they're, this was a mass
sighting. And this the Scout was actually
flowing out of her apartment Window up into this UFO.
Just Levitating there in the sky.
It's a strange guys. I think that was back in the
early 70s Manhattan Transfer. The second one says Budd
Hopkins. First case, Hopkins says, when I
had looked into the very first case that I investigated which
is back in 1975, having you do with a landing, that was
observed by a man. I knew in New Jersey The little
figures out, digging soil, samples, Etc, and I checked into
the apartment building that faced this park, where the
landing took place. It took me weeks to try to run
down a man. He was probably the night
doorman at the time of this Landing case and when I finally
got him on the phone and I asked a very loaded question.
Do you remember anything unusual happening in the park around
January of this year? And the man sitting in the man
said to me I certainly do I'll never forget it.
This UFO came down landed in the park.
It scared me half to death and as you started to describe it, I
started to get chills because something in me.
Even at that date, after, I'd had a siding years before, did
not want to accept that this could have really, really
happened. You know, I'm reading this that
I'm saying maybe maybe that first sighting that that but it
had years before even though he was an artist at the time, set
him on this path of investigating UFOs and
specifically interviewing and talking to people who had had
Encounters in abductions. Sometimes it can really have an
effect on a person even if, even if it's subconscious this is a
letter to but Hopkins, Hopkins says here's a letter to a woman,
a letter, a woman writing about her child.
She was so. CERN, her daughter is three
years old when she was putting her daughter to bed, the little
girl, cried and cried and said, I want to hide.
And the woman asked why, and she said, I'm hiding because the
little people are going to get me this way.
Frighten the mother, and she said, what happened with the
little people, the mother wrote, she told me, they come into her
room and take her outside. They have big eyes and that she
went up into the sky with them. With the man, I ask what
happened up there and she said, they took me to see the doctor
the next day. She saw a television program.
Her mother was sitting there a cover of a book about abductions
with a face of an alien. The little girl, jumped her
knees pointing at the TV shouting.
That's them. Mommy, the people she covered
her eyes and said, I'm scared mommy.
I've never seen such fear in the cold before within that, same
week, she Drew many faces with only very large, dark eyes.
I also noticed at the time was undressing her three tiny raised
pin like marching to her navel and the same under her left.
Nostril, that same day. She also had a pretty bad nose
blade. Quote since this all occurred
every now and then, she mentions other things such as they take
my Jamie's off, they hurt me excetera.
I realize you receive many letters of this kind, some of
which are funny, but believe me, this is not made up.
If this is all really happy to my little girl, please give me
some advice as to how to help her and deal with these
visitations. I know you're a very busy, man.
But please, perhaps a short response to my letter.
May ease my anxiety a little mr. Hopkins.
Could this really be true? Thank you, sincerely.
There's no way that one can read these letters without responding
and idea that someone like that is made something like that is
made up by a publicity Seeker. Or whatever is Skeptics like to
say, it's just absolutely absurd.
I have worked with some of these people afterwards, refer them to
other investigators, and I think we've brought some relief for
them and helping them explore where they happen in their
lives. Now, when you read a case like
this and bought this little child being abducted, Being
assaulted and being traumatized. It's hard for me to accept the
fact that is dr. Grills.
And dr. Greer and so many others.
Espouse that these aliens are. All good guys that they're all
here to help us that they couldn't possibly.
They couldn't possibly be bad because they've come so far.
I don't see anything but pure evil and those actions to abduct
a little girl like that. And to do, who knows what?
Sammy this mother was looking for relief but she was so caught
up in the narrative that's been given to us.
That she couldn't accept the possibility that our little girl
was 100% correct situation like this.
It's a zero-sum game either. The little girls telling the
truth. She's been, she's being abducted
and she's being terrorized. Or she's not telling the truth,
in which case she could, she could be suffering from a
serious mental illness, and she needs treatment either way this,
this kid needs help. And for the mom to just say,
well, I hope it's not true, and then to leave the kid alone in
the bedroom at night. It's tough because at that
point, the parent has to, I think face reality and say,
well, you know, maybe we need to put a lock on the door or
something. I don't know if we need to talk
to somebody, it almost sounds like you need an exorcism goes
on and says Hopkins. I was working with the man once
who was a lieutenant in the Army at the time of the incident, big
tall, man, and Irish man, pretty Macho, had a young wife, and a
little baby. He told me that when he was
taken into the craft put on the table, Paralyzed terrified could
move he resolved that when he was going to get off the table,
he was going to make a break for it, whatever.
However, he thought he was going, he was he thought that
was going to work. And he said that he was lifted
up after this physical examination, which was
humiliating his feet went down to the floor and he said, but I
just stood there, I didn't move, I didn't do anything.
I just couldn't do anything. And this little finger kept
coming along and he's long, gray fingers reached out and took him
by the wrist and he said, he's just gently took me by the wrist
and I went with him and he said, you know, I was the giant in
that room but I was the baby and it was so difficult for this man
with all this military And his Irish background in his youth to
admit that he could be that easily manipulated mood.
And if you think of that, as an example of what might lie ahead
for society in a certain sense, it's a pretty Grim future.
That is a very realistic. Look at alien abduction
phenomenon. Instead of instead of our
government, trying to hide this stuff, trying to secret away,
secret it away denying people. What's going on?
They need to be putting the information out there if that's
the case, if we're dealing with entities that are so Advanced.
That the fact that they're half our Size Doesn't Matter, Didn't
we need to resist this in a different way?
Now, some, some, some people people from what la LOL azula's
I can't give you anymore Dan quell.
These guys think this is a spiritual deal and at this point
we have to try something. If you can't physically
extricate, extricate yourself from the situation?
What does a person do when they've been taken against their
will upon into one of these ships?
And they've been, you know, physically assaulted, I think, I
think the situation here is to do something before that
happens. Because Lana says the Long
Island case, Hopkins in another case Poppins and another case on
Long Island, a woman who I've worked with had remembered
waking up. And there was a range of
physical phenomena which she described I think she was
paralyzed at one point her son in the morning.
I described these figures coming into the room.
He was enormously, he was enormously terrified.
The woman remembered walking downstairs in the middle of the
night, and she does remember coming back up, she found
herself in bed. There was a lot of confusion,
but in the middle of all this, the neighbors called to say,
what is that thing in your yard with all the lights on it.
So you have witnesses who happened to look out the window
and see the UFO on this person's property.
Well, you have these cases like this again and again, to either
this happened, the way it happened.
Or again, you have some kind of elaborate elective hoax,
including people's children, there's no motive for this.
I think the evidence is just again and again, totally
persuasive. These cases never blow up in
your face and suddenly, oh, we found out that soil.
So was a crook and they were doing this and that and it
doesn't happen. The material will stands all
kind of scrutiny and in as a matter of fact, the more you
look into it the more evidence comes together.
And to support them. I would have to agree with that.
100%, the more you look into these cases, the ones that have
stood, the test of time that they've stood the test of the
debunkers, and the doubters, and everybody else.
The over arching theme that I see.
And as is some sort of advanced entity which looks at humans.
As if their Lab Rats, barges into people's houses, takes them
against their will. Traumatize children assaults?
People does all kinds of terrible things but for one, for
whatever reasons it seems like the vast majority of the time,
it has to return these people to work, found them.
It's almost like it's working within the confines of some
treaty. I don't see these entities,
whatever they are as being here to help us here to make the
world, right? I don't see them sharing the
cure to cancer, I don't see them doing anything really to help
this planet you once in a while you hear about people who have
been preached to the preach to them about environmentalism this
sure that they don't seem to have any particular affection
Ford. What people are Krishna talk
about Jesus, they don't seem to want to hear about that, too
much. I just see a really disturbing
Trend in all of these, but I appreciate it but Hoffman's
because he took, he took these cases and he interviewed so many
people when he wrote all these books and he did it with such an
open mind and such a non-judgmental attitude.
Pretty cool guy. Until next time, this is UFO
warning over and out.