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Hello, and welcome to the 
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Today's topic Giants. 
That's correct. 

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Large bipedal humanoid creatures
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And we're not talking about 
people with, with birth defects.

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Say people that have had some 
sort of brain injury that caused

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them to grow to our 
extraordinary, Heights or even, 

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just really tall people know, 
we're talking about actual 

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Giants. 
But before I get into that, I 

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think it. 
I think we almost have to look 

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at a little bit of a history as 
far as the discovery of are 

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these supposed alleged Discovery
at least of these giant remains.

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And it hasn't always been a 
proud history. 

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In fact a lot of work has been 
done on the Giants of Catalina 

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Island's there off the coast of 
California strange, as it may 

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seem also the location of many 
Uso observations there. 

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And a lot of people including 
myself wonder if there's not 

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some sort of connection between 
those Giants and the UFOs found 

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there at any rate as a little 
bit of background. 

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I think it's important to point 
this out. 

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Even though it kind of lends a 
little bit of a dark shadow onto

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the whole Discovery process of 
giant giant skeletons. 

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I think it has to be mentioned. 
This article came out in Los 

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Angeles Times, clear back in 
2013. 

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Title is Catalina exhibit 
illuminates. 

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A dark episode in Islands past 
and article is by Louis. 

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Shh Hogan Los Angeles Times May 
12 2013 says a Catalina Island 

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museum has opened a window into 
a dark period of life on the 

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island, with an exhibition 
devoted to a pseudo scientist, 

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who looted Native American 
Graves. 

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For-profit eight decades ago, 
the strange and mysterious case 

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of dr. 
Glidin her Glidden Which opened 

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over the weekend, examines The 
Life and Times of Ralph Glidden 

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Huck's, Trish entrepreneur, 
entrepreneur, who in the 1920s, 

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and 30s excavated bones, and 
Relics from the tongva Indian 

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burial grounds for sale and 
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He also presided over an Indian 
museum, literally made of Bones 

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and situated on a hill. 
Overlooking, Avalon Harbor. 

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I'm pretty sure most of us can 
see that. 

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That is not only not a good. 
Taste, but pretty desperate, 

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respectful to be digging up 
human remains, and then making a

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museum out of them news articles
from the 1920s, written by 

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Glenn's publicist described. 
His Indian museum, as a unique 

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and weirdly spectacular 
institution with shoulder, blade

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cornices and windows edged with 
toe ankle wrist, and finger, 

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bones leg, and arm bones served 
as brackets for shells lined 

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with skulls ceiling, panels were
decorated with Human vertebra 

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and rosettes of shoulder blades.
Then it says for the record 

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Catalina Island Museum exhibit 
in the May 13th. 

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L80 extra section for an article
about the Catalina Island 

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Museum, exhibition devoted to 
Ralph Glidden, who looted Native

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American Graves for profit eight
decades ago, said that hundreds 

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of Skillet ins skulls and 
thousands of teeth. 

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He Unearthed were moved to UCLA.
The Remains are being housed, 

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are only temporarily and Until 
arrangements are made for reap 

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repatriation elsewhere. 
While the whole thing, just 

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sounds ghoulish to me. 
It goes on and says, the 

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Catalina Island museums look 
back at. 

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Glendon is rooted in a discovery
last year. 

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Curator John bourgignon, a 
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journals Legends letters and 
photographs, while searching a 

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musty back room for items for an
exhibit of the World War two 

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era. 
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the whoop professors at LOL, 
would have more than distance 

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themselves from mr. 
Glendon. 

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But it's pretty clear here that 
at one time they were working 

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hand in hand. 
I mean, he went out and well, he

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looted those Graves, let's just 
call it what it is, is hard to 

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even refer to it as an 
archaeological project, and then

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gave those human remains. 
To the University of Los 

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Angeles. 
Is that what it says? 

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At any rate there? 
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you have to wonder, why wasn't 
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later? 
The museum has mounted what 

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executive director, Michael D, 
Marsh calls, a disturbing and 

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troubling exhibition about 
glitches. 

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Work Holocaust museums examine 
similar issues that genocide of 

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a people. 
The description is Graves and 

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lack of respect for sacredness 
of their remains. 

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Well, it's easy to distance 
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after the fact, but the point 
is, I took possession of these 

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of these remains and that in 
itself to me, It's just lending 

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tacit approval. 
So, this is another example of 

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how the establishment, let some 
pretty shady sketchy, things 

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happen and then when the 
you-know-what hits the fan they 

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separate themselves by just 
throwing the guy under the bus 

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especially easy to throw him 
under the bus when he's already 

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under the turf, it says, 
interdiction in the entry 

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Corridor sets, the scene for 
visitors, any evaluate, any 

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evaluation of a life. 
And work of Clayton, must must 

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contend not only with his 
disregard for the sanctity of 

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human remains but the near 
permanent damage he inflicted on

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Research into Native American 
Life on Catalina Island, it 

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reads in part. 
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human remains that's that's kind
of the pot coming, kind of the 

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pot calling the kettle black. 
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these universities have drawers 
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Of ancient human remains. 
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he didn't present himself as dr.
Glidden and he told many of the 

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in many of us culture remains 
artifacts here on Earth 

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represent he sold many. 
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he sold many of the skeptical 
remains of the skeletal remains 

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and artifacts he Unearthed to 
prestigious institutions. 

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He longed to turn up evidence of
a mythical prehistoric race of 

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giant. 
Fair skin blue eyed Native 

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Americans. 
He Saved once inhabited the 

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Channel Islands, including 
Catalina 26 miles off the coast.

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There has been a lot of stuff 
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the notion that he uncovered 
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race of red haired, blue-eyed 
Giants and you can look into 

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that yourself. 
But before I got into that, this

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is what I wanted to present, how
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And part of how I came to that 
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Was it by just the wholesale, 
destruction of a lot of the 

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Native American graves, in 1930 
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discovered a £138 soapstone earn
that contain the skeleton of a 

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young royal princess crouched, 
in an upright position with her 

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fingers clenched over the rim, 
the urn, he said was surrounded 

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by these skeletons of 64. 
Children, buried in tears for 

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deep about five feet below the 
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Glidden said, Ed was a skeleton 
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Seven foot eight inches tall 
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he's left side. 
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of those skeletons being on 
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attraction at glidden's Museum, 
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glutens. 
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In 1968, the Wrigley family of 
chewing gum Fame, bought his 

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collection for five thousand 
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the Catalina Island Museum. 
The artifacts jugs bowls, 

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baskets peas, ambulance Rings 
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Ornaments Gears grinding Stones,
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remain stored under lock and 
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Hundreds of skeletons, skulls 
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moved to UCLA. 
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Wrigley family went in a bot up 
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over to this Museum. 
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and it sounds like maybe the 
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with the good stuff and you have
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state. 
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of bearing, the evidence burning
the evidence of these of these 

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Giants. 
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skeletons found, well, 
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University now. 
Wendy Teeter cured, archaeology 

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at UCLA's, Fowler Museum said 
the exhibit presents, an 

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opportunity to discuss to 
discuss, what these kinds of 

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collectors were doing across the
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pain that Native American 
communities have been feeling 

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all along. 
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documentary film featuring 
featuring recent interviews with

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Catalina residents, who still 
recall paying the man whom some 

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say, new, as Uncle Ralph 35 
cents to look inside his Museum.

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Well, the problem with this 
Museum that I see from this 

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article in 2013, is that it just
shows tiny select sample of what

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was found. 
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situations where the evidence 
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That needs to be a lot more 
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almost need a truth commission 
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And look at these bone samples 
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key. 
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you that, whatever this man 
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the University to take a 
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The question is, I know that 
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It's just a by this time it's a 
jumbled collection of human 

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remains. 
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professional archaeologist. 
It's just a one-man digging 

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team. 
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apathetic what he did really 
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just going in there and just 
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Now, the problem is, if If these
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about the feelings of Native 
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shown towards these remains, why
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these things on the island. 
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burial ground there or possibly 
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American people and let them do 
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I mean that would seem to be the
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you know they've got these 
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Like they're talking about this 
huge Stone urn, which they don't

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even explain what it was used 
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And why a normal sized group of 
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tall would want to have this 
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They don't explain why. 
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this, is some sort of sacrifice,
or what, what we do know though 

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is that there were lots and lots
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and some supposed pictures for 
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physical proof. 
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I've heard That some of these 
skeletal remains were shipped 

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off to the Smithsonian. 
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the UCLA has them. 
So the university there at Los 

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Angeles has these things are did
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said, with all the political 
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holding on to these Native 
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Why not? 
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ship those things. 
Back to the closest Native 

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American tribe or Nation or 
whatever, that's around there, 

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and let them deal with And you 
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found out something that's 
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Maybe they found out that the 
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populations. 
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Populations may be the actually 
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remains of a giant skeleton that
would lend itself to this 

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notion. 
That Catalina was once populated

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by seven, eight nine foot tall. 
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Eyed Giants. 
We don't know and we probably 

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will never Never know, because 
as far as we can see here, this 

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this museum is, are calling. 
It is simply populated with some

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items that were dug up, will not
catalog correctly. 

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We can't really make any 
conclusion about them other than

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the fact that yeah, these were 
some Native Americans that lived

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here at some time or another. 
We don't know the ages of the 

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dates. 
We don't really have a context 

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for this stuff because this guy 
just went through there 

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willy-nilly and Doug this stuff 
up, and you have to ask. 

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Why was he allowed to do this? 
I know it's 1920 but for crying 

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out loud. 
Why couldn't somebody say stop? 

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The whole thing is just a 
textbook case of what happens. 

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When a pseudo-scientists is 
turned loose on archaeological 

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site, digs up a ton of evidence 
that conflicts with the 

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so-called fossil record or the 
so-called historical record. 

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And then all that evidence is 
jumbled together confiscated by 

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a giant deep State Museum or 
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And then we're left with just 
the tip of the iceberg, which I 

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can't ride around in some little
museum display and say, oh look 

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at this. 
Look Look what bad things. 

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This guy did. 
Well, if he did such bad things 

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and it looks like he did, then 
why doesn't the UCLA? 

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Why have they given this stuff 
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I guess I'm not aware if they 
have, but simply there has not 

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been a transparent above the 
board analysis of what was 

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found. 
There were there Giants on 

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Catalina Island who knows a lot 
of people think. 

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So, until next time, this is UFO
warning over and out. 

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Look what bad things. 
This guy did. 

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Well, if he did such bad things 
and it looks like he did, then 

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why doesn't the UCLA? 
Why have they given this stuff 

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back? 
I guess I'm not aware if they 

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have, but simply there has not 
been a transparent above the 

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board analysis of what was 
found. 

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There were there Giants on 
Catalina Island who knows a lot 

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of people think. 
So, until next time, this is UFO

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warning over and out.
