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Hello and welcome to the podcast
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If you haven't been by the site,
stop by and check it out UFO 

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warning.com Today's episode is 
about an is about an event known

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as the Braxton County Monster or
what some people call the 

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Flatwoods Monster. 
This happened in Flatwoods, WV, 

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a little town population about 
300, and it happened back on the

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evening of September 12th, 1952.
The main witnesses in the event 

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were two boys, Edward and Fred 
May, a couple of a couple of 

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other neighbor kids, and the May
boys mother Kathy May. 

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Now the boys Edward and Fred and
their buddies. 

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They were out playing near a 
schoolyard and they saw what 

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they thought was a meteorite go 
flashing across the sky and 

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laying in a nearby pasture. 
Now a lot of people saw this. 

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It was widely reported around 
West Virginia and in the video 

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document that was made I made a 
a link to this on the website 

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ufowarning.com. 
There's a fellow who went back 

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in, I think it was in 2006 maybe
or maybe even 1996. 

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Anyway, he did really indepth 
documentary where he went back 

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and talked to all the witnesses 
he could find that were still 

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alive. 
And he also went back to the 

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original site where the actual 
what there was referred to as 

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the Flatwood monsters or Braxton
County monster was seen by the 

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May boys and their mom. 
And then he also went to a 

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secondary site up the hill or 
what they called a mountain from

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that were with where the actual 
UFO landing occurred at. 

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Now according to news reports, 
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once the debunkers came in, they
tried to claim that this was 

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simply a meteorite that had been
spotted blazing across the sky 

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and had landed on top of this 
mountain. 

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But the problem is there's no 
crater. 

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And another thing you can keep 
in mind, I remember back, oh 

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gosh, maybe 10-12 years ago, 
there was a meteorite that 

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struck near a town in Texas and 
it makes a Sonic boom and you 

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know, a meteorite the size of a 
golf ball or a or a baseball and

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it can make a a Sonic boom. 
So when a meteorite strikes the 

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ground, it's a pretty big event.
And that's why when if a 

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meteorite of any size strikes 
near a populated area, it makes 

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a huge bang for Masonic boom. 
And then they're not that hard 

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to find because they leave a big
hole in the ground. 

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So this obviously was not a 
meteorite. 

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That's just nonsense. 
And anybody that that actually 

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was in the area could tell you 
that it wasn't a meteorite 

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because there was no crater. 
But that didn't stop the 

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democracy from coming out and 
saying, oh, it was a meteorite. 

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So what happened was the two 
boys had spotted this thing and 

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they were curious and they run 
up the hill with their mother. 

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And what they describe is this 
is a twopart sighting what they 

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described as a monster. 
So what has happened is while 

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they're seeing this, there's 
being reported that a UFO has 

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landed on top of the mountain, 
and at the same time that 

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they're running up this hill to 
spot whatever this is landed. 

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Other people have called in 
thinking that there is a downed 

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airplane and the local Air 
National Guard called up a 

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Colonel Eugene Lemon. 
Now he's actually interviewed 

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the documentary. 
So he goes up and tries to find 

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the landing site, but before he 
gets there, the boys have gone 

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to the hill and they don't see, 
they don't see a UFO. 

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What they see is this object 
moving down the hill toward them

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and they describe how it's 
floating along. 

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They describe the object as 
being about 12 foot tall kind of

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has like a like a oblong 
triangular shape. 

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And it's really surreal how they
describe this thing. 

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You almost have to go to the to 
the website and watch some of 

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the documentary on it and and 
watch and take a look at the at 

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the sketches that they've been 
made of it. 

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The way that they were able to 
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it is, is because as this thing 
or whatever it is comes gliding 

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down the hill, it stops under a 
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But you can see there there's 
still the remains of a pretty 

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tall stump and at the time this 
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They describe about 100 foot 
tall and as they look up the 

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first branch is about 12 foot 
off the ground and this object 

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slides under the tree and kind 
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Now as it has come down the 
tree, even though it's floating,

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it seems like it's left skid 
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the hill. 
So we don't know if this is just

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maybe there's from some kind of 
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under there or maybe there's 
something physically touching 

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the ground. 
But whatever is going on, it's 

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just tall, 12 foot tall object 
slides down from what would have

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been I guess you could call the 
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It's leaving tracks along along 
the hillside and not tracks like

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a vehicle would leave just as 
almost as they described them as

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skid marks. 
Skid marks, by the way that are 

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leaving a kind of a greasy 
residue that smells, has a burnt

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metal smell to it. 
Now the boys stand there and but

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you know they're they're really 
kind of freaked out by the whole

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thing them and the mother and 
they in in the documentary this 

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fellow interviews the mother at 
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and you can tell she was just 
terrorized by it and she looks 

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up at this thing and I guess the
best way you could describe it 

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for lack of a, for me lack of a 
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I don't know if you've ever seen
like the pancakes Sir but the 

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anch of my own bottles, you know
it's got that that bottle with 

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the with the gal wearing the 
long dress that's kind of what 

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she describes. 
I mean it's a metallic like she 

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says it's about 12 foot tall. 
It has a basically like a rope 

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like a like a robot shape to it.
The head part is doesn't have 

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facial features but she 
describes it as having she 

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describes the head as being 
shaped as the ace of spades 

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card. 
You know how that Ace of Spades 

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symbol on the card has has that 
kind of curvy shape to it? 

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And in the middle of that, she 
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There's these two large eyes. 
They're just flat. 

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It's like, they're not even, 
like, obviously not like human 

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or even or even organic at all. 
She describes the whole things 

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as being very mechanical. 
So there's no way that that this

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thing could have been a a living
thing, but it was obviously a 

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mechanical thing. 
It had a, it had a metal shape 

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to it, it had a metal quality 
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Then she says. 
She describes how the the 

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object, I guess if you could 
think of us, you know, kind of 

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an old school Ricky robot or 
whatever. 

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I mean this, this metal goes 
down to what we would think of 

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where the waist would be at. 
It angles out in the metal, the 

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the metal is still metal, a 
material, but it has A and 

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almost like like drapes, she 
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The metal, the the shape of the 
metal, like a very curved just 

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imagine like a pleated dress. 
But it's made out of metal and 

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if you think about it, you know 
it doesn't seem to make sense 

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and there's no way. 
Why would somebody even make up 

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this object? 
And when you listen to her talk 

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to the interviewer, I think this
is part of the reason that it 

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was such a frightening 
experience for her and the boys 

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is because of the object was so 
otherworldly. 

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I mean, it didn't even, it 
didn't even resemble something 

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that was alive. 
They called it the monster, but 

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it really didn't. 
It really wasn't a monster so 

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much. 
It was as if it was maybe this 

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UFO phenomenon had taken on this
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To me it's more of a shape 
shifting thing where maybe that 

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maybe when the UFO came in and 
landed it was a saucer shape or 

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an orb shape, but as it as it 
lost energy or whatever, it 

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transformed itself into this 
thing that that maybe it was 

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trying to take on the appearance
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I mean, and that was this 
haphazard attempt to place eyes 

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at the top and to have and, you 
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like it was wearing clothing, 
you know, and This is why you 

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have this pleaded looking metal.
I mean this this really strange 

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appearance that didn't make 
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And she describes how they just 
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pointing at the thing. 
Now it didn't have arms, and a 

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lot of the sketches show that it
has arms sticking out, kind of 

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like little T Rex arms off this 
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They were antennas that came out
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what we would have been to say a
head or neck would have been. 

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But at the top of that machine, 
this tall robot like machine, it

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had antennas sticking on each 
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call the neck. 
And she said they absolutely 

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were not arms. 
So it wasn't like it was 

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reaching out, trying to attack 
him or anything. 

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And the behavior of it almost 
sounds more like it would like a

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space probe is what I'm thinking
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It sounds like a space probe 
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our space or from some other 
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And the the shape of The thing 
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The shape of the thing seems 
like it happens. 

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It's almost like this thing is 
changing shape. 

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It's shifting, it's shifting 
shape as it moves through our 

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dimension, and it's taking on 
whatever appearance it takes on 

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to to to meet our expectations. 
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somebody else would have 
happened to discover this crazy 

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thing, and maybe their 
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that it was a robot, maybe their
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was a Bigfoot or some other 
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And this thing might have might 
have just as easily assumed that

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shape at any rate. 
They they stand there and they 

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they look at this thing 
levitating under the tree. 

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They all three. 
Well four boys actually. 

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And and the and the mother of 
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They I they just sat there. 
They look at it for quite a 

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while and then they go back to 
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they call a neighbor. 
Eventually a local reporter gets

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called and his name was his name
is a Lee Stewart I believe Now 

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this guy is also interviewed in 
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it's fun to watch a documentary 
where someone's gone back to the

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to this he actually went back to
the site was occurred at and he 

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interviewed all the people he 
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He interviewed one of the boys 
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He's he's you know middle-aged 
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explained to him exactly what he
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He took him to the tree where 
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He had he had gotten hold of a 
recorded conversation or maybe 

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he'd done it with the the mother
I believe she'd passed on and he

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interviewed her. 
She told what she saw, which is 

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exactly what the boy saw. 
And then he he interviews this 

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Ailey Stewart who went out and 
talked to the family and 

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interviewed everybody and he 
described what they said at the 

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time. 
And their descriptions of what 

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happened were exactly the same 
today as they were 6065 years 

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ago. 
So they printed it up in the 

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paper and it got quite a bit of 
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But what kind of falls in 
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while the boys were, you know, 
they had, they had seen all 

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this, this whole UFO account, 
other people in Braxton County 

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had reported what they thought 
was a downed airplane. 

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So the next day, the local Air 
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and he interviews this man, this
Eugene Lemon, he's told to go 

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out and do a recovery. 
So he gets 30 of the local 

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guardsmen. 
They go out, they they cordon 

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off the area and and then they 
get another 30 people. 

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I think that he'd talked to the 
kids anyway, they weren't sure 

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what they were looking for. 
They go up to the mountaintop 

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where the UFO was supposed to 
have been sighted at and where 

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people had thought there had 
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And they found out that there 
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There was a flattened down area 
where something had landed at, 

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and they described this kind of 
acrid metallic smell. 

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And they found out something 
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They found out that the kids got
real sick after they had had 

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witnessed the UFO and they had, 
they had come in contact with 

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this kind of greasy slime that 
the thing had been, had been 

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emitting and they were sick. 
So the Colonel wanted to find 

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out what was going on and what 
had made them sick. 

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And some people that went with 
him, the some of the slime stuff

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was still at the scene. 
They touched the stuff and they 

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had the same reaction. 
They were vomiting, intense, 

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intense flu like symptoms. 
So the Air Force ordered him to 

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take soil samples all around 
there. 

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Now what's cool is this guy goes
back and talks to this gentleman

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and I think it must have been 
like must have been like 1996. 

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You can watch the YouTube video.
It's like UFO warning.com. 

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There's a link and he describes 
himself. 

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He says, well this wasn't a 
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He says there was no crater and 
no evidence for meteorite and he

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said there was no airplane 
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This guy is an old World War 2 
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So he knew a thing about or two 
about, you know, airplane 

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crashes and he's looking around 
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And but the only evidence they 
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real sick that have been exposed
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had been dispersed in the skid 
marks that went from where the 

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UFO landed down maybe 20-30 
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creature was sighted. 
And like I said, they went 

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ahead, they got soil samples 
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And he sent those soil samples 
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And he said, well, that's the 
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Now, it would be interesting 
enough if the story ended there.

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You know, you have what appears 
to be some people thought it was

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a meteorite. 
A lot of people thought it was a

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thought. 
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You had young kids run to the 
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run to the scene of the crash, 
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But what they do see is this 12 
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looking strange creature that is
levitating down the hillside 

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stops in front of them. 
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They get exposed to this kind of
a greasy metallic substance that

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is expelling at the bottom of 
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They get sick from it. 
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newspaper paper reporter. 
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He knows something's been here. 
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investigator with 60 guardsmen. 
This is all recorded. 

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They investigate the scene. 
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They don't find this robot 
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skid marks. 
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type of metallic stuff that's 
been excremented, for lack of a 

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better word, from this machine. 
People touch it, they they 

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immediately display the same 
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Vomiting. 
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soil samples and sends them into
the Air Force to try to find out

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what's what this stuff is. 
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He doesn't hear a word. 
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has no need to know. 
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event that it got a big write up
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And of course, you know the 
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it that it was some sort of 
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debunkers come out and they 
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They tried to really convolute 
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And it's it's pretty clear from 
the sightings of what happened 

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was is that you had a UFO that 
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that it crash landed, that was 
witnessed and that it appears as

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though, as a lot of these things
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I mean it was witnessed as a 
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And then it's between the time 
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kids get there, its shape has 
shifted into this robotic thing 

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and then it just simply 
disappears before anybody can go

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back and get a second set of ice
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Well, this is not a this is not 
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By now, when we study a UFO 
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really common thing that 
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But at that time, shape shifting
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So it seems like when you read 
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some of the newspaper accounts, 
they completely disregard the 

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part about the UFO crash itself.
They almost want to act like it 

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was and it like it never 
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Or they'll claim that it was 
simply a meteorite that landed 

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and the boys ran up there to 
check it out and what they saw 

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was a Hudel sitting in a tree. 
Now that's that's pretty 

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ridiculous in the face of it. 
I think that even 4 kids and a 

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mom can tell the difference 
between a Hudel perched 12 foot 

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up in a tree and a 12 foot tall 
robot that's releasing some kind

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of toxic substance. 
So when you go back and you read

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some of the debunking articles 
or some of the old newspaper 

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articles, you see what what 
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cases immediately. 
Instead of just approaching them

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logically and reporting the 
facts of what happened, you know

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a disabled UFO that shape 
shifting witnesses, they they 

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report an event that didn't 
happen that couldn't have 

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happened and that's a meteorite 
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That doesn't leave a crater and 
doesn't leave a Sonic boom. 

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And then they take the part of 
the actual UFO sighting and they

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just claim that never happened. 
So it's a little bit of a 

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complicated case, but I think 
that there's still a lot of 

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interest in it, by the way. 
And I think that if you really 

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want to understand this case, 
you need to go watch that 

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documentary. 
It's about 50 minutes long and 

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watch this fellow interview, the
actual witnesses that were there

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in 1952. 
He talks to Colonel Lemon. 

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He talks to one of the boys and 
then he has. 

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He plays the the audio interview
with the mom and then you're 

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able to really get to the bottom
of what of what the Braxton 

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County monster was and it wasn't
a monster at all. 

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It's obviously what it was was 
was a disabled UFO and somehow 

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had managed to get self righted 
and out of there before anybody 

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could captured. 
And it also when you when you 

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watch the interview brings out 
how important that the Air Force

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thought it was. 
The fact that they would send 

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someone up there to take a look 
at it and I realized it was 1952

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but they were interested in what
was going on and to confirm 

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whether or not this was an 
airplane garage. 

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So the only way to get to the 
truth of these, to these events 

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really, is to go back and talk 
to the people that witness the 

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events. 
And that's what this guy does. 

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And he goes back to the actual 
location of the event. 

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He shows you exactly where the 
UFO landed and he shows you 

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exactly where the UFO slash 
monster was cited at by the 

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witnesses. 
And then he actually takes a 

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couple of those witnesses out 
there to the very site they were

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at, you know, 50 years before, 
whatever it was. 

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And they explained exactly what 
they saw. 

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And when you listen to these 
people and you listen to them 

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relive what they saw, it really 
completely deflates everything 

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the deep munkers try to say 
about it. 

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And it shows you what actually 
happened and gives you a way to 

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understand in the best possible 
light. 

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I guess. 
I would say anyway, a very 

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fascinating case. 
I definitely do. 

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Go to the website, take a look 
at the documentary. 

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It's worth your time. 
A real fun case to look at. 

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That's all for now, over and 
out. 

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Ufowarning.com.
