1 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:06,440 And welcome to the program UFO Warning. 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,040 In this episode, we're talking about four more Tic Tac UF OS. 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,480 That's correct, four more Tic Tac UF OS. 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,280 You know, these things have been kind of a hot topic lately. 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,200 The most recent ones that have come to light are these ones 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,240 that happened back what, February 2023? 7 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,760 Prior to that, we had these ones clear back in what, 2002, 2003 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,840 or whatever. And recently we've had this new 9 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,440 narrative come up that these things were some sort of 10 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,800 Lockheed Martin super secret spacecraft. 11 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,760 I'm not believing that for a second, but it just seems like, 12 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,040 you know, every time I get a little bit of traction in one of 13 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:45,360 these stories, a new deep state narrative emerges to try to 14 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:49,920 distract us from really getting into this stuff and finding out 15 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:51,120 what's going on. Now. 16 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,480 I found this article over at the New York post.com, 17 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,880 newyorkpost.com. It's dated September 11th, 2025. 18 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:00,480 That would have been this past Thursday. 19 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:06,080 Active duty Navy chief witnessed UFO, convinced doubtful 20 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:10,480 colleagues with radar expertise. It was like, checkmate, says 21 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,880 this room machine Galvin. So you've got this radar 22 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,040 operator, apparently this chief who has to convince the people 23 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,400 that are right there watching this stuff on the radar with him 24 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,080 that hey man, we've got some UFOs here. 25 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,960 It says that active duty Navy chief saw four Tic Tac shaped 26 00:01:26,960 --> 00:01:31,720 UFOs off the coast of California while working on the USS Jackson 27 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:36,840 and convinced A doubting radar officer the craft for real with 28 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,920 an with an undeniable checkmate. Now checkmate being a quotes 29 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:42,400 there. So now we're talking about four 30 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:43,960 of these things. U.S. 31 00:01:43,960 --> 00:01:48,040 Navy Senior Chief Petty Officer Alexander Wiggins witnessed 32 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:52,760 multiple UFOs on radar on the evening of February 15th, 2023, 33 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,560 observing the first one emerged seamlessly out of the ocean. 34 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,080 He said, What am I seeing? Recounted Chief Wiggins, who 35 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,840 spoke to The Post on behalf of himself as an individual and not 36 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,800 as a representative of the Navy. From my observation, it did in 37 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:12,960 fact come from the water. So I guess when he says it, he's 38 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:17,240 talking about these four tic Tac shaped UFOs coming up out of the 39 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,800 ocean and he's seeing them on the radar here. 40 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,120 Wow, this is wild. And then instead of the image of 41 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:24,840 this guy says U.S., Navy is here. 42 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,920 Chief Petty Officer Alexander Wiggins during the congressional 43 00:02:27,920 --> 00:02:31,800 hearing on Tuesday where he became the first active duty 44 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,920 naval officer to publicly testify about a UFL sighting. 45 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,760 I actually like this a little bit better where you have active 46 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:43,880 duty people being talked to here in these hearings, people that 47 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,480 are, you know, not something that happened 2530 years ago. 48 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:47,960 It's something that happened a year or two ago. 49 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:49,880 And they're right there seeing it. 50 00:02:49,920 --> 00:02:52,960 And he's telling you first hand, we're discussing this evidence. 51 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,360 This is an eyewitness account. We're not having to depend upon 52 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,240 what somebody told somebody. So it's not hearsay. 53 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,880 I mean, he's telling you this is what I saw and he's right there 54 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,600 in Congress doing it. I really respect that. 55 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,000 It says it was first seen on radar. 56 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:11,080 And once I saw it on radar, I wanted to confirm visually what 57 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:15,400 I was seeing on radar, if it was clouds and atmospherics and 58 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,600 something else. Wiggins then moved out to the 59 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,360 core bridge wing of the USS Jackson and went back through 60 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:27,160 his mental checklist of things the object could be, but was 61 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:31,240 convinced by an odd maneuver it made that it was not standard 62 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,960 human technology. Remember, the human body can 63 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,720 only take so many GS. It was rising into the air high 64 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:42,680 enough to where I'm like all right, that's definitely A too 65 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,800 fast and B, not something I've seen before. 66 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:50,480 The 21 year Navy veteran said. The keen eyed officer saw three 67 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,080 other objects moving coordination roughly 8 nautical 68 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:58,680 miles away from the USS Jackson, then reported the unknown 69 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:03,920 objects to a tactical officer and rush to observe the craft on 70 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,840 Sapphire radar goes on down, it says. 71 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,120 A video recording of the Sapphire radar tracking was 72 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,080 published by George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell on the Weaponized 73 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,079 podcast in April. From the video, that's what you 74 00:04:16,079 --> 00:04:18,480 get. You see that original Tic Tac 75 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,839 object that I visually saw off the Port Bridge wing? 76 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,920 Wiggins said. This kind of helps us a little 77 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:25,880 bit because now we're able to have a kind of a chain of 78 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,000 custody. About this video that George and 79 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:33,240 Jeremy had posted, it says the clip showed an Oval shaped black 80 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:37,600 spot on the radar moving up and down with apparent ease and then 81 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,880 rendezvousing with three similarly shaped crafts. 82 00:04:41,280 --> 00:04:43,400 It's utilizing the sapphire system. 83 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,200 You're able to see silhouettes and heat signatures of different 84 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,880 objects. So in relation to the Tic Tacs, 85 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,520 once it went away at near instantaneous speed, we had some 86 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:59,480 skeptics in ICC 1, Wiggins said of the other Navy men on the 87 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:00,800 bridge. Well, yeah, they're thinking how 88 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,160 could this thing move that fast? At least one of the radar 89 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,560 operators claimed the object was likely a plane. 90 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:10,360 But Wiggins said he knew what he saw when an actual plane passed 91 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:14,000 by on the radar, and its form was clearly visible, unlike the 92 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,200 Tic Tac like figures they had just observed. 93 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,440 Well, here you go again. One not like the other. 94 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:26,320 About 30 to 45 seconds pass and I see an incoming or passing by 95 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:31,040 commercial aircraft. And so I felt, I tell the CSM 96 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:37,080 slew in that aircraft around the same location and lo and behold, 97 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,840 you see the air signature coming off the back. 98 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,480 You see the wings perfectly. You see the the tail wing, the 99 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,600 side wings, you see the shape of those of the nose on the 100 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,840 aircraft. You see it perfectly. 101 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,000 It was kind of like checkmate. And he sat back down. 102 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,560 Reagan said. Even if I were to second guess 103 00:05:55,560 --> 00:06:00,160 myself, I no longer could. The father of three came forward 104 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,160 to bear witness to the stellar sighting. 105 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,000 At the third UAP hearing organized by the House 106 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,240 Transparency Task Force, were shocked. 107 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,720 Videos of a Hellfire missile striking a UFO was shared on 108 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,200 Tuesday. And we talked about that the 109 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,320 other day. And once again, now they've come 110 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:15,960 out and tried to debunk that whole thing. 111 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,600 But I'm telling you, it seems way too strange to me. 112 00:06:19,840 --> 00:06:22,480 Now I want to get just a little bit further here. 113 00:06:23,280 --> 00:06:26,680 So this USS Jackson is not that old of a ship. 114 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:31,240 If we go to Wikipedia here we can see that it was Apparently 115 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,720 the contract was awarded December 29th 2010 launched 116 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:41,720 December 14th 2013 tells us that the length of this thing is 418 117 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:47,720 feet 14 foot draft and a 104 foot beam propulsion to General 118 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:53,040 Electric LMM 2500 gas turbines speed 40 plus knots. 119 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:58,080 That's that's 54 mile per hour is top speed in these boat on 120 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,800 these on these ships and that's what they're telling you 54 mile 121 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,480 an hour. This thing's got a 4300 nautical 122 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:11,520 mile range, which is 4900, you know, miles by land and at at at 123 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,720 20 knots. I mean this is this is really 124 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:18,280 something 210 lbs ton capacity. It's got a crew. 125 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:22,720 It says of 4040 crew, eight officers, 32 enlisted. 126 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:28,000 And then it's got, you know, some really high tech radar, all 127 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,720 this kind of stuff. It's a battleship I guess is 128 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:34,920 what it is. It says the USSL CS6 is an 129 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,680 Independence Class literal combat ship of the United States 130 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,040 Navy and the first ship to be named for Jackson, the capital 131 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,880 of Mississippi. In 2002, the US Navy initiated 132 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,800 program to develop the first of a fleet of literal combat ships. 133 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:54,800 The Navy initially ordered 2 trimaran hold ships from General 134 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,000 Dynamics, which became known as Independence Class literal 135 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,920 combat ships after the first ship of the class USS 136 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,400 Independence. Even numbered U.S. 137 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,920 Navy literal ships are built using Independence class Try 138 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,440 Marion design with odd number ships are based on competing 139 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,680 designs. The conventional monohole 140 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,920 freedom class literal combat ship. 141 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,800 The initial order of literal combat ships involved a total of 142 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,920 four ships, including two of the independence class. 143 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,360 On the 29th of December 2010, the Navy announced that it was 144 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:30,840 awarding the Austal USAA contract to build 10 additional 145 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,760 Independence Class Littoral Combat ships. 146 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,039 Jackson is the third Independence Class Littoral 147 00:08:37,039 --> 00:08:39,960 Combat ship to be built. Jackson was built by Austell USA 148 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,840 Mobile, AL. Jackson is the second 149 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:47,720 Independence class to carry standard 23 foot long rigid hold 150 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,040 inflatable boats and improvements in corrosion 151 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,320 protection and propulsion over the original Independence of the 152 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,720 LCS to design. Now these things are really 153 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,960 something man. You just imagine the radar on 154 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,160 these things. I'm suspecting that the pictures 155 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,200 are getting are probably even better than what we are seeing 156 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,920 now. I wanted to kind of dig into 157 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:11,520 this idea of this sapphire radar system a little weird here. 158 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,800 I I checked it out here with AI and it says it says there is no 159 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,280 evidence of AUS Navy radar system specifically named 160 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,920 sapphire. The term likely refers to a 161 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:25,040 recent UFO sighting and tracking incident on AUS naval ship where 162 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,480 an observer referred to the radar system as Sapphire. 163 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:32,560 Public search results do not confirm this as an official 164 00:09:32,560 --> 00:09:36,480 designation for a Navy radar. So maybe this guy's just putting 165 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:37,640 something new out there, I don't know. 166 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,680 The search results for Sapphire radar system provides several 167 00:09:40,680 --> 00:09:43,360 potential contexts for the name. The reference to a Sapphire 168 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,880 radar may have confused a Russian radar system. 169 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,760 Well I don't think that's sounds like it's what's going on here. 170 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,640 And a video interview on the Weaponized podcast. 171 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:56,320 In April 2025, an active duty Navy chief reported seeing and 172 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:00,720 tracking unidentified objects on a sapphire radar aboard the USS 173 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,080 Jackson. That's what we were just talking 174 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,600 about, the event. The observer claimed to have 175 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:09,000 seen tic tac like objects moving at high speeds and track them 176 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,720 using the ship's radar. The discrepancy? 177 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,440 While the Observer called the radar system Sapphire, it is not 178 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,800 a known official designation for AUS Navy radar system. 179 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,880 Now, isn't that strange? You wonder, did this guy let 180 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,440 something slip or are we just getting a line here? 181 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,160 That's weird. You know, you would think that 182 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,280 they would, that the weapon systems and the radar systems or 183 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,280 whatever that they would be referring to would fit. 184 00:10:35,680 --> 00:10:38,520 So we had this whistleblower claiming that he used something 185 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,960 called the Sapphire radar system, but when we go to look 186 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,680 it up, we're being told there's no such thing as that, at least 187 00:10:45,680 --> 00:10:48,560 not known publicly. God, I wonder what's going on 188 00:10:48,560 --> 00:10:50,960 there? I found another article getting 189 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:52,960 a little bit more into these hearings talking about what 190 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,560 these whistleblowers had to say. This is from defensescoop.com, 191 00:10:56,560 --> 00:11:00,160 Defense scoop.com. Military whistleblowers share 192 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,320 new evidence of alleged UAP transparency at hearing. 193 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,080 Military whistleblowers share new evidence of alleged UAP at 194 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:11,000 transparency hearing Tuesday marked the first UAP focused 195 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,560 hearing convened by the House Oversight and Current Government 196 00:11:14,560 --> 00:11:17,440 Reform Committee's Task Force on the Declassification of Federal 197 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,600 Secrets. This Room by Brandy Vincent 198 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:24,960 September 9th, 2025 It says House lawmakers urged Congress 199 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:29,520 to pass proposed legislation and pursue further actions to shield 200 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,240 whistleblowers with information about unidentified anomalous 201 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:36,560 phenomena from any retaliation after current and former U.S. 202 00:11:36,560 --> 00:11:39,760 military officials shared new details about their alleged 203 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,600 encounters on on active duty with baffling orbs and craft 204 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,280 that appeared to eclipse existing weapons and technology. 205 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,600 This goes way beyond Tic Tacs. What we saw changed our lives, 206 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,240 the way we think about everything. 207 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,440 It was incredibly profound. Air Force veteran Jeffrey 208 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,840 Nucatelli said he provided testimony on Tuesday alongside 209 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,840 other military veterans and oversight experts at the first 210 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,280 UAP focused hearing convened by the House Oversight and 211 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,360 Government Reform Committees Task Force on the 212 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,600 Declassification of Federal Secrets. 213 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,080 In general, we need more stronger protections for 214 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,480 everyone as a whole. But there is a different case in 215 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,480 point for UAP with supporters, specifically Representative 216 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,400 Annapolina Luna. Republican Florida, who chairs 217 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:28,600 that task force, told Defense Scoop after the hearing. the US 218 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,960 government has a turbulent history associated with its 219 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,880 handling of data and reports of UAP. 220 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,640 But look at what they're doing back in the 40s and 50s with 221 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,200 these UFO reports. Just totally depressing people. 222 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,240 A modern term for UFOs that accounts for transmedium objects 223 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,520 and records documenting those incidents. 224 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,480 Pursuits to compel more transparency and oversight have 225 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,720 continued to emerge over the last several years, largely due 226 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,760 to mounting public pressure and congressional mandates. 227 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:02,280 At a high level of Pentagon's mechanisms to study what it now 228 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,280 refers to as UAP have taken it different forms over the 229 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,200 decades. The most recent iteration, the 230 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:12,800 All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office, AARO, of course or in my 231 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,560 opinion they resolved nothing, was set up under the Biden 232 00:13:15,560 --> 00:13:19,080 administration in 2022 to fulfill a mandate from the 233 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:23,360 National Defense Authorization Act AERO achieved full 234 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:28,040 operational capacity in 2024. Since its inception, government 235 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,840 officials have been secretive about the office's projects and 236 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,360 caseloads of dozens of open investigations. 237 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,840 Yeah, I don't hold out a lot of hope for anything being solved 238 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,800 here. Luna is part of a small group of 239 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,280 policymakers who have been steadily prioritizing 240 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:44,640 whistleblower hearings, public engagement sessions and other 241 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,240 legislative efforts to promote more accountability and 242 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,480 disclosure from the intelligence community and other government 243 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:55,520 agencies regarding UAP. The prior hearings or under 244 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,360 committees of different jurisdiction. 245 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,640 And so you're seeing that there's a massive bipartisan 246 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,960 support for this specifically in this task force, she told 247 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,440 Defense Scoop. And will continue to turn over 248 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,000 and flip over the rocks. You know, sometimes when you 249 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:10,920 turn over rocks, you find snakes underneath. 250 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:15,080 The panel of witnesses who testified on Tuesday shed new 251 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:19,480 light on some previously reported UAP incidents observed 252 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:23,320 near military assets and installations and presented new 253 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,840 allegations of secrecy and retaliation. 254 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,240 Like I said, sometimes when you turn over rocks, you find 255 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,160 snakes. Usatele, a former military 256 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:35,720 police officer who served 16 years in the Air Force, pointed 257 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:40,240 to multiple possible UAP incursions between 2003 and 2005 258 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,920 near Vandenberg Air Force Base in California. 259 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:44,560 And we've covered these before, too. 260 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:48,480 The installation is now known as Vandenberg Space Force Base. 261 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,840 When officials were conducting high stakes launches for the 262 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,600 National Reconnaissance Office, according to Nuketelli, massive 263 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:59,680 objects that appeared like flying buildings approached 264 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,680 military personnel and pulsed and moved in strange ways. 265 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,280 He asked lawmakers to fund independent research for UAP and 266 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,960 end secrecy and over classification across the 267 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,560 government. Each incident was witnessed by 268 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,720 multiple personnel, documented and investigated, and reported 269 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,760 up the chain of command. We sent information up, but we 270 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,680 got no guidance down on how to handle these events, he said. 271 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,800 Another Air Force veteran who testified for the first time on 272 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,960 Tuesday, Dylan Borland, told lawmakers he faced severe 273 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,320 retaliation after coming forward about his alleged experience 274 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:37,720 with the UAP at Langley Air Force Base in 2012 and related 275 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,360 information he uncovered in its aftermath. 276 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,560 Because of my direct knowledge of the reality of certain legacy 277 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,000 UAP programs, my professional career was deliberately 278 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,240 obstructed and I have endured sustained reprisals from 279 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,000 government agencies for more than a decade, Borland said, 280 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:57,600 alleging that he was subject to workplace harassment, efforts to 281 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:01,080 undermine his ability to be to be employed for classification 282 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,360 work and other forms of mistreatment. 283 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,440 Notably, Tuesday's hearing also marked the first time an active 284 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,160 duty naval officer testified publicly before Congress about 285 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:15,640 an incident involving UAPUS. Navy Senior Chief Petty Officer 286 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:20,680 Alexandra Wiggins, who has 23 years of service, spoke in a 287 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,200 personal capacity at the hearing about an incident that occurred 288 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,240 in 2023 while he was serving aboard the USS Jackson. 289 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:32,520 What I observed and what our crew recorded was not consistent 290 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,320 with conventional aircraft or drones as they appear on our 291 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,720 system. A self luminous Tic Tac shaped 292 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:44,240 object emerged from the ocean before linking up with three 293 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,440 other similar objects. So that's why So apparently this 294 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:51,040 one object came up out of the water and linked up with three 295 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,320 others that happened to show up on the radar there. 296 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,920 The orb then disappeared simultaneously with the high 297 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:02,360 synchronized near instantaneous acceleration, Wiggins told 298 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,560 lawmakers. Isn't that something a self 299 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,839 luminous tic Tac shaped object emerged from the ocean. 300 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,560 So I don't know if this thing's turning it from, I'm not sure 301 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,800 what this thing's turning it from Tic tac into orbit. 302 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,440 Like I said, he describes this self luminous tic tac coming up 303 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,560 out of the water, hooking up with these other three tic tacs. 304 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,839 And then he says that this orb then disappears simultaneously 305 00:17:24,839 --> 00:17:28,480 with a high synchronized near instantaneous acceleration. 306 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,280 He said there was no Sonic boom or conventional proportion 307 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,000 propulsion signatures, but the objects were detected on multile 308 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,840 sensors, including radar. To be clear, I'm not here to 309 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:43,240 make claims beyond my lane. We can said I am here to rovide 310 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,640 a first hand account of what I saw, what our systems recorded 311 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,920 and why it matters for safety, for intelligence and public 312 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,840 confidence. He urged Congress to impel 313 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,600 sensor standardization and personnel training to ensure the 314 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,680 best data can be captured by the Navy in real time. 315 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,840 Wiggins also asked the lawmakers to reinforce witness protection 316 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,560 efforts and encourage the military to maintain 317 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,720 confidential, destigmatized channels for UAP reports and 318 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,320 associated data. Quote, sailors need to know that 319 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:18,080 reporting UAP encounters will not harm their careers, Wiggins 320 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,160 said. Now I don't know how they got 321 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,680 that radar image, you know, video off that ship into the 322 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:29,280 hands of George Knapp and Jeremy Korbel, but somehow I guess it 323 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:30,840 kept going. It says that says. 324 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:32,920 During the hearing, Representative Eric Burlson, 325 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,120 Republic in Missouri, unveiled video footage publicly of the 326 00:18:36,120 --> 00:18:41,320 1st time that he said showed AUS military MQ 9 drone firing at 327 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:45,600 health on a Hellfire missile at a high speed or about the coast 328 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,240 of Yemen, October 2024. The UAP. 329 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,480 The UAP appeared to be hit but not destroyed, and we talked 330 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,040 about that in the podcast a couple days ago. 331 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,960 It kept going and it looked like the debris was taken with it. 332 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,360 Burlson said. I'm not going to speculate what 333 00:19:00,360 --> 00:19:04,000 it is, but the question is why are we being blocked from this 334 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,720 information? Good question. 335 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,360 Other witnesses on the panel UAP journalist George Knappin, Joe 336 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,920 Spielberger, who serves as senior policy counsel at the 337 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,000 Project on Government Oversight, Pogo. 338 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:20,320 Pogo also called for Congress to continue for investigations and 339 00:19:20,360 --> 00:19:23,760 legislations to spark more transparency. 340 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,080 The secret is out. I mean, how many videos of UAP 341 00:19:27,120 --> 00:19:30,480 have there been? Nap said in an interview Monday. 342 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,200 Ahead of the hearing, Spiegelberger said that he hoped 343 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,840 it would restart serious bipartisan conversations to 344 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,000 strengthen disclosure channels and protections for all national 345 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,200 security whistleblowers. The Misty's that they expose can 346 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,360 often have a direct impact on public safety, civil liberties 347 00:19:48,360 --> 00:19:51,320 and the security of our country. That makes them incredibly 348 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,360 important to keeping our government accountable. 349 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,880 When they speak up and do the right thing, the American people 350 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,240 benefit, Spielberg told Defense Scoop. 351 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,680 Well, it's kind of like pulling on a thread and I think what the 352 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,280 deep state is worried about is these guys might pull on the 353 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:10,720 wrong thread and then their whole little nasty project comes 354 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,120 unravelled. And I've said for a long time, I 355 00:20:13,120 --> 00:20:19,400 really think that this UFO bit is going to be what brings the 356 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,920 deep state down because once people realize the kind of 357 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,880 technology has been hidden from them, whether alien or whether 358 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,320 just stuff they've come across and won't share with us, it's 359 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,280 there's already this massive loss of trust with the American 360 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,680 people. Imagine what happens if they 361 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,400 find out that our own government says had the cure for cancer for 362 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:41,920 30 years and won't share or has had free energy for 40 years and 363 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,520 won't share. People are not going to be 364 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,640 happy. And maybe This is why the whole 365 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,320 system, the Defense Department, all these different departments, 366 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:55,360 dozens of them have exercises 0 tolerance as far as sharing 367 00:20:55,360 --> 00:20:57,400 anything. I mean, look at look at that 368 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,800 John Greenwald. You get these blacked out 369 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:06,360 reports from 60-70 years ago. What on earth are they hiding? 370 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,880 Overall, a lot of good stuff there at that recent hearing 371 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,840 that that Representative Luna is doing. 372 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,880 I want to finish up with this last little short excerpt from 373 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,560 this. I think you pronounce the name 374 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,440 Nudicelli Nuseteli talking about the sighting there at the 375 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,200 Vandenberg Air Force Base. Also, This is just wild, man. 376 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,240 It says Chairwoman Luna, ranking member, members of the task 377 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,520 force, thank you for the opportunity to testify today. 378 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,240 These are the notes from that meeting, he says. 379 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,920 My name is Jeffrey Nussitelli. I am a former military police 380 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,640 officer with 16 years of active duty service in the United 381 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,960 States Air Force. I'm here today because the 382 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,120 American people have both the right and responsibility to know 383 00:21:42,120 --> 00:21:44,560 the truth about unidentified aerial phenomena. 384 00:21:45,120 --> 00:21:48,880 The truth remains hidden, classified and silenced by fear, 385 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,160 retaliation, stigma and confusion. 386 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,000 Today, we are here to help break that silence. 387 00:21:54,320 --> 00:22:00,160 Between 2003 in 2005, five UAP incidents occurred at Vandenberg 388 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,480 Air Force Base, home to the National Missile Defense 389 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,400 Project, a top national security priority at the time. 390 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,840 We were conducting launches deemed by the National 391 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,320 Reconnaissance Office as the, quote, most important in 25 392 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,480 years. These facilities were vital. 393 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,560 They were repeatedly visited by UAP. 394 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,120 Here you go. These things, just wanting to 395 00:22:20,120 --> 00:22:21,560 show up and see what's going on, I guess. 396 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:26,400 Each incident was witnessed by multiple personnel, documented 397 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,040 and investigated, and reported up the chain of command. 398 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,760 We sent information up, but no guidance came down. 399 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,000 I personally witnessed one of these events and investigated 400 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,280 others. Six other service members, all 401 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,120 direct eyewitnesses, have provided the information I share 402 00:22:42,120 --> 00:22:44,240 today. The incursions began October 403 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:48,440 14th, 2003 when Boeing contractors reported a massive 404 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,400 glowing Red Square silently hovering over 2 missile defense 405 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,760 sites. After several minutes, it 406 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,280 drifted east and vanished behind the hills. 407 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,680 This event, now known as the Vandenberg Red Square, was later 408 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,600 referenced by Representative Luna during the first public 409 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,440 hearing on this topic. Official Air Force records 410 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,280 documenting it are now held by Aero and the FBI. 411 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,400 Later that night, while I was on duty, security guards at a 412 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,320 critical launch site reported a bright, fast moving object. 413 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,800 As I responded, the radio erupted with panic. 414 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,360 It's coming right at us now. It's right here. 415 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,000 Moments later, it took off It's gone. 416 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,280 When I arrived, 5 shaken witnesses described a massive 417 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,920 rectangular craft larger than a football field that hovered 418 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,800 silently for about 45 seconds before shooting away at 419 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,720 incredible speed. About a week later, another 420 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,840 patrol reported a strange light over the ocean heading toward 421 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,760 the base. Believing it to be an 422 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,840 unannounced aircraft, they declared an emergency and 423 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,480 launched an armed response. Before forces arrived, the 424 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,880 object descended, hovered briefly, or landed that had 425 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,000 vanished instantly into the night sky. 426 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,640 The witness was later threatened and told to keep quiet about the 427 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,960 incident, discouraging further reports. 428 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:08,280 And after that, things stayed quiet until 2005, when the 429 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:12,200 patrol reported a massive triangular craft, larger than 430 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,040 AC130, hovering low over the main base. 431 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,840 It drifted silently across the installation before disappearing 432 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,680 into the night. And then I had my own encounter. 433 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,680 I was off duty, sitting in my backyard at night with two 434 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,160 friends, and we noticed what first appeared to be a 435 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:31,360 satellite, but it's rhythmic pulse was unlike anything we had 436 00:24:31,360 --> 00:24:33,680 seen. As we watched, it started 437 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,480 maneuvering like a butterfly and would vanish and reappear in a 438 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,000 different patch of sky. The object dropped steadily in 439 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,400 altitude and it vanished and then reappeared 200 feet over my 440 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:49,000 house. It was a huge glowing orb of 441 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,360 blue white light, but it appeared solid and the light did 442 00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:55,480 not radiate from it. It vanished again and reappeared 443 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,440 a moment later in a different position. 444 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,760 The orb then gently accelerated and we watched it for about 40 445 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,160 seconds as it receded into the night sky and became 446 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,280 indistinguishable from the stars. 447 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,880 Just imagine how fast that things going to cover that kind 448 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,560 of distance in that short a time, 40 seconds. 449 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,240 These events profoundly changed my life and the lives of my 450 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,520 friends and Co workers. They were not rumors or 451 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,440 misidentifications. They were unresolved incursions 452 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,720 over one of the nation's most important bases. 453 00:25:24,120 --> 00:25:26,520 We stand at a pivotal moment in history. 454 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,480 The question is no longer whether these events are real, 455 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,800 but whether we have the courage to face them. 456 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,880 True leadership requires vision, a willingness to confront the 457 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,400 unknown with transparency and resolve. 458 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,280 So I ask Congress to help we the people enact this vision. 459 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,080 There are three goals. One, fund independent research 460 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,520 and treat UAP study with the same seriousness as any other 461 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,600 scientific field. Two, end its secrecy and over 462 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,280 classification. Transparency is the foundation 463 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,480 of truth. Without it, witnesses like me 464 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,480 are dismissed and the truth remains hidden. 465 00:26:00,120 --> 00:26:04,080 Protect the witnesses. Many stay silent out of fear for 466 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,280 careers, reputations, even safety. 467 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,680 Protect them and you embolden others to come forward. 468 00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:11,680 These phenomena challenge our deepest assumptions about 469 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,120 reality, consciousness and our place in the universe. 470 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,000 Exploring them could unlock transformative breakthrough in 471 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,920 technology, biology, and human understanding. 472 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,320 Let this be the moment when America chooses courage over 473 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,520 fear, and transparency over secrecy and progress over 474 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,000 stagnation. Let's show the world that our 475 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,880 nation leads not only through strength, but in the fearless 476 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,960 pursuit of truth. Wow, that's pretty, pretty 477 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,600 encouraging, really. I have heard about these strange 478 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,720 UFO incursions over Vandenberg. The the one that was due to me 479 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,880 that I guess was these four Tic Tacs spotted by Senior Chief 480 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,240 Petty Officer Alexandra Wiggins. Pretty cool, but really 481 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,520 courageous. I guess if if we take these guys 482 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,280 at face value coming forward like this, pretty good stuff. 483 00:26:57,360 --> 00:26:59,120 Hopefully something will come out of this. 484 00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:02,600 I guess it's kind of baby steps. I still think that the real 485 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,040 disclosure for the most part is going to come on sites like 486 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,960 Newport where people just go up there, they put up their 487 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,040 sightings, they relate it first hand and then we can just look 488 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,280 at it that way. But it's good to see at least 489 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,200 some of these folks in the military rank and file members 490 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,440 coming on board. Maybe some of these guys don't 491 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,400 really have an intelligent background, but they've got 492 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,120 years and years of service and they seem like on the service at 493 00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:28,600 least reliable witnesses. Hey, if you enjoyed the program, 494 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,400 don't forget to hit like, follow, subscribe. 495 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,640 Doesn't cost a dime. Until next time. 496 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,040 This is your whole warning over and out.