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Hello and welcome to the program
at UFO Warning. 

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Today's topic, Gary McKinnon, 
UFO Hacker. 

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As many of you recall, Gary 
McKinnon was a fellow who 

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decided to have a look around 
some U.S. government computers, 

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his quest for UFO research. 
Unfortunately for Gary, he did 

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not have permission to conduct 
this research and he very nearly

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ended up in a supermax prison 
for the next several decades. 

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Now you can keep in mind this 
was 2002, so the computers and 

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the Internet weren't what they 
are today. 

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He was dealing with some very 
slow speeds and he didn't 

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actually save any pictures. 
He just viewed them and then 

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talked about what happened to 
him. 

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Now in this interview with 
wired.com from 2006, Gary talks 

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about what he saw and the 
interviewer says, did you find 

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anything in your search for 
evidence of UFO's? 

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McKinnon certainly did. 
There is the Disclosure Project.

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This is a book with 400 
testimonials from everyone from 

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air traffic controllers to those
responsible for launching 

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nuclear missiles. 
Very credible witnesses. 

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They talk about reverse 
engineered technology taken from

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captured or destroyed alien 
craft. 

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Now think about this for a 
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Not only does the government 
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to him, but they're talking 
about it in this thing called 

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the Disclosure project with 400 
testimonials. 

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And here we go again with the 
reverse reverse engineered craft

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that we keep hearing about. 
Now this is from 2002, this is 

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2019. 
Now we're talking 17 years later

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and what happens? 
The government begins to let all

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this stuff starts to bubble up 
and we find out that people like

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Tom Delong claims to have meta 
material, That U.S. 

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Navy comes out and tells us that
U that UFO's do exist. 

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But back in 2002 they were 
denying that any of this stuff 

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was real. 
Now back to the interview. 

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The interviewer asked McKinnon. 
Like Roswell incident of 1947 

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McKinnon. 
I assume that was a first and 

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assume there have been others 
these relied upon. 

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People have given solid 
evidence. 

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What sort of evidence? 
McKinnon, a NASA photographic 

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expert, said that there was a 
building B, excuse me, a 

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building 8 at Johnson Space 
Center where they regularly 

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airbrushed out images of Ufo's 
from the high resolution 

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satellite imaging. 
I logged on to NASA and was able

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to access this department. 
They had huge high resolution 

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images stored in their picture 
files. 

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They had filtered and unfiltered
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files. 
My dial up 56 K connection was 

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very slow trying to download one
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As this was happening I had 
remote control of their desktop 

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and by adjusting it to a four 
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resolution I was able to briefly
see one of these pictures. 

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It was a silvery Gray, silvery 
cigar shaped object with 

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geodesic spheres on either side.
There were no visible seams or 

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riveting. 
There was no reference to the 

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size of the object and the 
picture was taken presumably by 

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a satellite looking down on it. 
The object didn't look man made 

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or anything like what we have 
created. 

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Because I was using a Java 
application, I could only get a 

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screenshot of the picture. 
It did not go into my temporary 

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Internet files. 
At my crowning moment. 

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Someone at NASA discovered what 
I was doing and I was 

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disconnected. 
I also got access to Excel 

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spreadsheets. 
One was titled Non Terrestrial 

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Officers. 
It contained names and ranks of 

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US Air Force personnel. 
Who who are not registered 

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anywhere else. 
It also contained information 

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about ship to ship transfers, 
but I've never seen the names of

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these ships noted anywhere. 
The interviewer Could this have 

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been some sort of military 
strategy game or outline of 

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hypothetical situations? 
McKinnon the military went, The 

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military want to have military 
dominance of space. 

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What I found could be a game. 
It's hard to know for certain 

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interviewer. 
Some say that you have given the

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UFO motivation for your hacking 
as a distraction for more 

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nefarious activities. 
McKinnon I was looking before 

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and after 911, so that means he 
was on these computers before 

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2001 and after 2001. 
If I hadn't wanted to distract 

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anyone I would not have chosen 
Ufology as this opens me up to 

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ridicule. 
Enter your tell me about your 

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experiences with law enforcement
and the procedures you have gone

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through. 
McKinnon I was arrested by 

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British National High Tech Crime
Unit in March 2002. 

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They held me in custody for 
about 6 or 7 hours. 

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My own computer and ones I was 
fixing for other people were 

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taken away. 
The other machines were 

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eventually returned, but they 
kept my hard drive that was sent

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to the US. 
It was November 2002 when the US

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Department of Justice started 
their efforts to extradite me. 

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WN. 
The British Crown Prosecution 

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Service dropped charges against 
you because your activities did 

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not involve British computers. 
McKinnon I was to be officially 

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charged in 2003, but a warrant 
wasn't given until 2004. 

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In June, or early 2000, or July 
2005, I was scooped up from the 

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street by Scotland Yard. 
I was kept at Belgravia police 

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station overnight. 
I just wore what I had on when I

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was out. 
I didn't get a chance to wear a 

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suit in court. 
I was given police bail then. 

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We'll get back to this in a 
second. 

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But you may be wondering how 
someone could so easily hack 

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into these government databases.
And from mysteriousuniverse.com 

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we learn, author and journalist 
Jon Ronson said of McKinnon. 

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Basically what Gary was looking 
for and found time and again 

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were network administrators 
within high levels of the US 

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government and military 
establishments who hadn't 

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bothered to give themselves a 
password. 

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That's how he got in. 
No password, just signed on, no 

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big deal. 
So it's kind of hard to call 

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somebody a hacker, in my 
opinion, when they simply sign 

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on to your computer by typing in
the word password. 

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Now if our government is that 
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with top secret UFO data, it 
certainly gives us pause to 

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think that they should not be 
trusted with UFO, metamaterial 

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or other related technology. 
Now, as far as Mr. McKinnon 

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goes, from what I could find 
about his legal situation, the 

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UK has refused to turn him over 
to the Americans. 

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It's not going to happen and he 
is a free man in his own 

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country. 
However, if you ask me, it might

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be a good idea for Mr. McKinnon 
to stay out of the United 

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States. 
As we all know, the Deep State 

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tends to be pretty vengeful. 
Now if you go over to the 

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blogspot UFO 
warning.blogspot.com you will 

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find links to the articles that 
I quoted here and you can also 

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find a link to an interview that
was recorded May 19th I believe 

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of 2019 with Mr. McKinnon and 
Robert Dolan. 

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It's about 54 minutes long. 
It's a very interesting video 

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and a couple things I would 
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First off, at the very beginning
of the interview, McKinnon 

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brings up the the idea of 
breakaway civilization. 

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And then very strangely, he 
quotes Alex Jones as using that 

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term. 
Alex may have, may have coined 

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that, I don't know. 
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talking about with the breakaway
civilization is that there's a 

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group of people and maybe it's a
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that the deep states are are 
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But there the idea is, is that 
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are so, so far ahead of us 
technologically that we don't 

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have access. 
And So what actually what we're 

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seeing is not just aliens with 
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aliens in the UF O's, but it's 
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civilization that that exists 
among us as though we're ants 

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and that they've already created
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Much like Bob Bigelow was 
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up space habitat, which he may 
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They they talk about him having 
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anybody's living in it. 
I mean, who knows? 

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But McKinnon brings us up and 
it's just breakaway civilization

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that the average person is not 
Privy to, doesn't know anything 

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about, but does actually exist. 
And you have to wonder when you 

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see things like this recent 
landing of the space plane that 

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have been up there for a couple 
of years or when some new 

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technology comes out that it's 
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Where did this come from? 
It is almost, in a way, like 

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we're being treated like, you 
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say. 
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think that would lend way too 
much credence to the motives of 

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whoever this deep state or 
breakaway civilization is. 

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But McKinnon does bring that up.
And it seems like maybe in the 

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back of his mind he's come to 
the conclusion that what he 

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really did was he threatened to 
expose this breakaway 

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civilization. 
And when you look back at when 

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he did the computer hacking 
socalled, he was using A56K 

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dialup modem. 
I don't know, some of you I'm 

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sure have used those things and 
they are slow. 

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I mean, it would take you 1/2 
hour to download a high quality 

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pic, maybe maybe a couple hours.
So he actually was not able to 

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download any of the pictures to 
make copies of him. 

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He just viewed them and that may
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That might have saved him from 
prison, because you have to 

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wonder if he had hard evidence 
that NASA was covering all this 

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stuff up and he was able to go 
on TV at some point and show a 

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picture that proved this. 
He might be a threat to these 

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people, but I have to wonder if 
at some point they realized, you

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know, we're talking about people
that weren't smart enough to put

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a password on their computer, 
apparently. 

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Or somebody wasn't. 
At least there's a there's a 

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failure there somewhere. 
But somebody in that 

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organization got the notion 
that, well, listen, he didn't 

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actually download any pictures. 
You know, his mother, she's out 

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there advocating for him all the
time, very sympathetic 

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individual. 
He has Asperger's. 

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So I think almost at some point 
they decided not to pull the 

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trigger on this guy because he 
was so sympathetic that it it 

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would have been more trouble 
than what it was worth. 

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You can decide Until next time 
this is UFO warning, over and 

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out.