1 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,100 Hello, and welcome to the program. 2 00:00:05,100 --> 00:00:08,900 You have a warning. Today's topic who filmed Tic Tac 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:14,000 that's correct who filmed Tic Tac that famous UFO. 4 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,300 Of course, if you've been listening to podcast, you know, 5 00:00:16,300 --> 00:00:18,600 that we've been talking about that recently. 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:24,000 And yesterday, we covered the very first contact with the Tic 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:29,600 Tac and that was with Captain David forever and his wingman as 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,300 they flew with. Pacific Ocean there. 9 00:00:31,300 --> 00:00:36,000 As part of the Nimitz battle Carrier Group off the coast of 10 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:40,400 California about 100 miles out, actually about 60 miles, south 11 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:45,300 of the US border and just about 30 miles west of Ensenada 12 00:00:45,500 --> 00:00:48,400 Mexico. They encountered this bizarre 13 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:52,900 UFO, they're hovering along the surface of the ocean above that 14 00:00:52,900 --> 00:00:55,000 disturbance. In the water, they described 15 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:59,500 that disturbances something that looked like possibly a submarine 16 00:00:59,500 --> 00:01:02,300 in the middle of submerging or maybe even an aircraft having 17 00:01:02,300 --> 00:01:09,000 crashed there for everyone on the tell us about how he and the 18 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:15,100 other F-18 crew circled around above, apparently about 28,000 19 00:01:15,100 --> 00:01:21,600 feet above that UFO and then as a as he and his co-pilot Start 20 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,500 the plane down toward the UFO. The UFO came zooming up, toward 21 00:01:25,500 --> 00:01:30,300 them crossing the front nose of their jet airplane, added cream, 22 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:35,100 incredibly High rate of speed probably up to 3,700 miles an 23 00:01:35,100 --> 00:01:37,200 hour. Now is we do a little more 24 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,800 research into this. We find that forever and his 25 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:42,900 crew went back to the aircraft carrier, they had some 26 00:01:42,900 --> 00:01:47,800 conversations and then another crew took off in pursuit of that 27 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:52,300 UFO and this and this crew piloted by By chat Underwood 28 00:01:52,300 --> 00:01:54,100 now, mr. Underwood, has been a lot more 29 00:01:54,100 --> 00:01:56,900 quiet than some of the people involved in this thing. 30 00:01:56,900 --> 00:01:59,500 It seems like he's really wanted to keep a low profile in the 31 00:01:59,500 --> 00:02:00,800 course. That's his right. 32 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:05,300 But he was the man that captured, the video of that tick 33 00:02:05,300 --> 00:02:12,700 tack on his Fleur camera, mounted on his F-18 Hornet and 34 00:02:12,700 --> 00:02:16,100 that is the the videos kind of get all mixed together. 35 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,000 I mean, you've got you've got the two videos that came off the 36 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,000 east coast of the United States in 2015. 37 00:02:21,500 --> 00:02:25,300 But this is the video that came off the west coast south of 38 00:02:25,300 --> 00:02:29,200 California back in, 2004 back in November of 2004. 39 00:02:29,500 --> 00:02:32,800 And this video, the one involving the Tic Tac is about a 40 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,800 about a minute long, and there's no sound to it. 41 00:02:37,100 --> 00:02:41,200 So, I posted a link to that video from ABC News. 42 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,700 And of course, you can go to the UFO warning, Twitter account, 43 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,100 that's UFO. Warning can get there by going 44 00:02:48,100 --> 00:02:51,200 to at warning sub UFO and whether your go ahead. 45 00:02:51,300 --> 00:02:54,900 And do a follow on the Twitter, if you would now, the first 46 00:02:54,900 --> 00:02:58,100 article comes from the independent and dependent, 47 00:02:58,100 --> 00:03:01,600 .co.uk this came out. Oh, this article, I believe came 48 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:06,000 out about a year ago. December 2019. 49 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,400 Actually about seven months. It says the title says it did 50 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,800 not obey the laws of physics pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac 51 00:03:13,900 --> 00:03:18,400 UFO breaks silence after 15 years says it was going from 52 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:24,100 like 50,000 feet to one. 100 feet and like seconds which is 53 00:03:24,100 --> 00:03:28,000 not possible. Well of course we know that the 54 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:32,200 g-forces there would not allow any human operated craft to 55 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,400 travel at that kind of a speed that is for sure. 56 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:39,100 The articles by: Drury and it starts off as says a u.s. 57 00:03:39,100 --> 00:03:44,100 fighter pilot. Our us fighter pilot whose plane 58 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,000 film the famous and still unexplained Tic Tac UFO footage 59 00:03:48,300 --> 00:03:52,000 has spoken for the first time about his close encounter Chad 60 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:56,000 Underwood broke 15 years of Silence on the subject, 61 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,400 describing the object. He recorded over the Pacific. 62 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:04,300 Ocean is not behaving within the normal laws of physics. 63 00:04:05,500 --> 00:04:10,600 He said it was going from like 50,000 feet to 100 feet. 64 00:04:11,100 --> 00:04:14,600 And like seconds, which is not possible, the Tic Tac so called 65 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,000 because of its rounded shape. And white collar was caught on 66 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,500 video as a u.s. Navy attempted to identify 67 00:04:21,500 --> 00:04:25,600 series of objects spotted on radar flying off America's West 68 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:30,400 Coast in November 2004, the authenticity of the film, which 69 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,200 was first made public in 2017. Now, we all know about that. 70 00:04:34,300 --> 00:04:38,800 This film was one of three UFO videos from the UFO from the US 71 00:04:39,100 --> 00:04:44,700 Navy fighter pilots, Was secretly released to the New 72 00:04:44,700 --> 00:04:50,400 York Times who in turn released it to Louis Elizondo. 73 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:55,300 It turns out former head of a tip current employee of tssaa 74 00:04:55,700 --> 00:04:59,800 and then they posted that video for several months until the 75 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,700 Navy finally came out. It came clean and said yes that 76 00:05:02,700 --> 00:05:07,200 is in fact our video just went interject there to kind of put 77 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,500 forward the chain of custody that this thing was involved in 78 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,500 It says, the authenticity of the film, which was first made 79 00:05:13,500 --> 00:05:17,000 public in 2017. Was finally confirmed by the 80 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,100 Pentagon earlier. This year official, said they 81 00:05:20,100 --> 00:05:23,500 still had no idea what the recorded object was weather, 82 00:05:23,500 --> 00:05:27,600 phenomena, man-made, craft and birds have all been ruled out. 83 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,800 Well, certainly, we can rule things out because we know the 84 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,000 radar was far too advanced to be fooled by anything like that. 85 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,100 The article continues speaking to the New York, speaking to the 86 00:05:37,100 --> 00:05:41,000 New York Magazine, mr. Underwood said quote, the thing 87 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,400 that's It out to me. The most was how erratic it was 88 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:47,000 behaving and what I mean by are ready is that it's changes in 89 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:51,200 altitude AirSpeed and aspect. We're just unlike things that 90 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,100 I've ever encountered before flying against other are 91 00:05:54,100 --> 00:05:56,500 Target's. It was just behaving in ways 92 00:05:56,500 --> 00:05:59,300 that aren't physically normal. That's what caught my eye 93 00:05:59,300 --> 00:06:02,800 because aircraft whether they're manned or unmanned, still have 94 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,800 to obey the laws of physics. They have to have some source of 95 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:11,000 lift, some Source propulsion, this Tic Tac. 96 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:15,500 Was not doing that. The article continues as says 97 00:06:15,500 --> 00:06:18,300 any added. You're up there flying like, 98 00:06:18,300 --> 00:06:20,900 okay, it's not behaving in a manner that's predictable. 99 00:06:20,900 --> 00:06:26,700 Or is in normal, by, how flying objects physically move the 100 00:06:26,700 --> 00:06:30,300 sighting came during a fortnight in which the USS prints 101 00:06:30,300 --> 00:06:34,200 Princeton had noted unknown aircraft intermittently passing 102 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,500 across its Radar Radar Systems off the West Coast. 103 00:06:37,500 --> 00:06:41,000 The contact was considered, so inexplicable. 104 00:06:41,900 --> 00:06:45,600 That the system was shut down and restarted check for bugs, 105 00:06:45,900 --> 00:06:49,700 but operators continue to track the mysterious object 106 00:06:49,700 --> 00:06:54,100 afterwards. Then, on the 14th of November 107 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,500 Commander, David Freiburger was flying a mission off the USS 108 00:06:57,500 --> 00:06:59,900 Nimitz when the eyeball, the object. 109 00:06:59,900 --> 00:07:03,400 Now, remember, we talked about this yesterday, Commander Nimitz 110 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:09,400 was there, these f-18s F-18 fighter jets, they are a two-man 111 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,300 operation. You've got the pile in a aunt 112 00:07:11,300 --> 00:07:15,100 and the wingman in the back. Remember how forever told us and 113 00:07:15,100 --> 00:07:18,900 the interview for the History Channel that they were engaging 114 00:07:18,900 --> 00:07:24,800 in a for airplane exercise. He and another plane, we're the 115 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,800 good guys and then two other jet airplanes filled, F-18 Hornets 116 00:07:29,100 --> 00:07:33,800 filled, the role of the bad guys, and then he's taking off 117 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,700 here with the other F-18 Hornet. So we've got two planes for 118 00:07:37,700 --> 00:07:45,000 people and As they're taking off on this exercise, they get a 119 00:07:45,500 --> 00:07:47,800 message from the Princeton, that's the control ship telling 120 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,400 them that they are transitioning from a exercise into a 121 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:56,800 real-world task and all that, task that task was tracking 122 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,900 down. This UFO, verifying it and 123 00:07:58,900 --> 00:08:03,500 trying to see what it was. Okay, so it says here, then in 124 00:08:03,500 --> 00:08:06,000 November 14th Commander. David favor was flying a mission 125 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,900 off the USS Nimitz. When he eyeball the object, it 126 00:08:08,900 --> 00:08:14,500 seemed he later said, To dive below, the water, resurfaced, 127 00:08:14,900 --> 00:08:19,100 and speed out of sight. When he approached, that's a 128 00:08:19,100 --> 00:08:23,100 little bit different, that line right there was not included in 129 00:08:23,100 --> 00:08:26,300 the History Channel interview that we talked about yesterday. 130 00:08:26,900 --> 00:08:30,800 I want you to notice this at says, it seemed he later said to 131 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:37,000 dive below the water resurface and speed out of sight when he 132 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,400 approached. So this tells us that there, 133 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,700 There's really something going on here, not just above the 134 00:08:43,700 --> 00:08:46,900 water surface, but also below the surface because when they 135 00:08:46,900 --> 00:08:50,700 first spotted that UFO, they spotted it above that 136 00:08:50,700 --> 00:08:54,600 disturbance in the water. Now we hear favor say that this 137 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,400 UFO actually Dove below the water and then came back up. 138 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,400 We have to wonder what was going on with this thing. 139 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:02,800 Was there a mother ship down there? 140 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,800 This thing is interacting with or is this thing just going into 141 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,200 the water somehow refuel itself? This is a question that's really 142 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,300 never adequately. Only been addressed or responded 143 00:09:12,300 --> 00:09:15,800 to. As free, whereas favor landed. 144 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,800 He told Underwood this is the guy that filmed at chatting or 145 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,700 would he has favored landed? He told Underwood just preparing 146 00:09:23,700 --> 00:09:28,300 to take off on his own mission to be aware of unusual activity. 147 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,400 Now, the kind of question I have here is we're going to get this 148 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,200 little bit later. There is another documentary out 149 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,400 there with an individual who purports to be somebody in the 150 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,800 radar could I guess and they didn't. 151 00:09:40,100 --> 00:09:45,300 And it was a discovery YouTube. The video and I linked it to the 152 00:09:45,300 --> 00:09:47,400 Tweet the Twitter account, you have a warning, you can go there 153 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,700 and watch. It's about a five-minute extra 154 00:09:49,700 --> 00:09:53,500 prevent interview and he describes it as though he sees 155 00:09:53,500 --> 00:09:56,900 this Fleet of UFOs and he dispatches a crew. 156 00:09:56,900 --> 00:10:00,300 So we have to wonder if that's not what's going on here with 157 00:10:00,300 --> 00:10:01,900 Underwood when he goes off to film. 158 00:10:01,900 --> 00:10:03,800 The saying. So, apparently by this point, 159 00:10:05,700 --> 00:10:09,900 this whole situation that Nimitz had been seeing these UFOs, not 160 00:10:09,900 --> 00:10:14,500 just Tic Tac but multiple UFOs fleets as they say, Off and on 161 00:10:14,700 --> 00:10:20,200 for what seems like, maybe a week or ten days at this point, 162 00:10:21,100 --> 00:10:24,200 Captain Commander David forever has gone off on a scheduled 163 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:29,100 Mission which turned into a UFO Hunting Expedition. 164 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,500 He verifies the UFO, he goes down, you know, he's a twenty 165 00:10:33,500 --> 00:10:35,500 eight thousand four. He flies his, he flies his bird 166 00:10:35,500 --> 00:10:39,800 down, to investigate this thing. The UFO which has been going in 167 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,500 and out of the water and hovering above the water. 168 00:10:42,700 --> 00:10:46,600 Suddenly It shoots up in the air past that jet which is coming 169 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,800 down from altitude at 28,000 feet. 170 00:10:50,300 --> 00:10:53,300 At this point, forever goes back to the aircraft carrier and as 171 00:10:53,300 --> 00:10:56,100 he comes back I guess he has this conversation with Chad 172 00:10:56,100 --> 00:11:00,200 Underwood and who's about to maybe he's already in his plane 173 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:04,100 taking off. To go investigate this UFO 174 00:11:04,100 --> 00:11:10,800 further and says David, David, David favor was like, Hey, dude, 175 00:11:11,700 --> 00:11:16,300 bolo like be on the lookout, just for something weird 176 00:11:16,300 --> 00:11:19,000 Underwood, said, in his interview published on Thursday, 177 00:11:19,500 --> 00:11:22,900 so we'd go out to where our designated training areas. 178 00:11:23,300 --> 00:11:26,900 We're not necessarily looking for something, but the Princeton 179 00:11:26,900 --> 00:11:30,900 had a specific object and they wanted us to hunt. 180 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,900 For lack of a better word. And all of a sudden I get this, 181 00:11:35,900 --> 00:11:40,900 I got this blip on my radar. This is kind of an interesting 182 00:11:40,900 --> 00:11:44,000 comment, he says. So we go out to where we are 183 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:48,100 designated to are designating trading area, so you can see 184 00:11:48,100 --> 00:11:50,900 what's happening here, just like, with favorite, it looks as 185 00:11:50,900 --> 00:11:55,900 though, their normal training are training, mission is being 186 00:11:55,900 --> 00:12:01,000 turned into a UFO hunting Mick Mission because he says, we go 187 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,400 out to where a designating training area is we're not 188 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,600 necessarily looking for something, but they're Princeton 189 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,300 had a specific object that they wanted us. 190 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:14,000 To hunt for the lack of a better word and all of a sudden I got 191 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,400 this blip on my radar. So you see, this isn't just a 192 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,700 pilot who happens to see a blip across the sky. 193 00:12:20,700 --> 00:12:23,700 Maybe it could have been a weather balloon swamp, gas, who 194 00:12:23,700 --> 00:12:27,400 knows whatever this is a situation where this UFO has 195 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:32,700 been tracked by sophisticated, Navy, radar from the ship 196 00:12:32,700 --> 00:12:37,000 Princeton, and the folks on the Princeton Are doing what they're 197 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,900 supposed to do and they're interested in there. 198 00:12:38,900 --> 00:12:44,200 And they are they are sending out fighter planes to intercept 199 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,300 the threat. They're perceiving this UFO as a 200 00:12:47,300 --> 00:12:50,500 threat against the battle group. You have all these high-dollar, 201 00:12:50,500 --> 00:12:55,000 Navy ships out there, they spot this UFO, this object that's 202 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,100 moving around, not not conforming to any kind of 203 00:12:58,100 --> 00:13:01,300 physics of this world and they're sending out this F-18 204 00:13:01,300 --> 00:13:04,600 Hornets twice. Now, to track this thing and see 205 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,000 what's going on. The article continues. 206 00:13:08,300 --> 00:13:12,500 He says, it says he said, he did not see the object with his own 207 00:13:12,500 --> 00:13:16,600 eyes because he was focused on capturing video footage for 208 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:21,100 intelligence to analyze later. So see he's letting his own 209 00:13:21,500 --> 00:13:25,000 Fleur radar. Do the work, he's just pointing 210 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,800 his his F-18 toward the object and letting the computer, take 211 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,300 the pictures. You said you did not see the 212 00:13:31,300 --> 00:13:34,100 object with his own eyes because he was focused on capturing 213 00:13:34,100 --> 00:13:36,500 video footage for intelligence to analyze later. 214 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:41,700 But he added the thing that was the most interesting to me, was 215 00:13:41,700 --> 00:13:44,700 how erratic this thing. Was it was obeying physics. 216 00:13:45,300 --> 00:13:48,700 If it, if it was obeying physics, like a normal object 217 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,900 that you would encounter in the sky, an aircraft or a cruise 218 00:13:52,900 --> 00:13:56,300 missile or some sort of special project that the government 219 00:13:56,300 --> 00:13:59,000 didn't tell you about, that would have made more sense to 220 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,800 me, the part that Drew our attention was, how it was 221 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:06,200 behaving within the normal law has how it wasn't, whether it 222 00:14:06,208 --> 00:14:08,300 behave? Being in the normal laws of 223 00:14:08,300 --> 00:14:12,500 physics so they see the UFO. They see it moving a these 224 00:14:12,900 --> 00:14:15,900 incredibly high speeds. They see the erratic turns this 225 00:14:15,900 --> 00:14:18,400 making and they realize they recognized as Pilots 226 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:22,000 immediately. This thing is not conforming to 227 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:26,100 the laws of physics. Now, you can break some laws but 228 00:14:26,100 --> 00:14:27,700 you can't break the laws of physics. 229 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,100 It was on it says unusually unusually. 230 00:14:31,100 --> 00:14:34,700 He was never fully debriefed on his sighting, but had to take a 231 00:14:34,700 --> 00:14:38,900 phone call about the incident. So soon after landing he was 232 00:14:38,900 --> 00:14:43,900 still in his flight gear at the time that should throw some red 233 00:14:43,900 --> 00:14:47,900 flags up right there. Now this tells us that there was 234 00:14:47,900 --> 00:14:51,600 more than just one or two pilots involved in this situation and 235 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:57,600 this UFO encounter, you have the initial physical eye contact 236 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:02,700 made with Commander forever. Then you have pilot Underwood 237 00:15:02,700 --> 00:15:05,900 goes out and actually gets video of this thing on his fear. 238 00:15:06,500 --> 00:15:08,400 He Comes back to the aircraft carrier. 239 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,800 And instead of going through the normal debriefing, like you 240 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,300 would after any flight, he's on the phone with somebody talking. 241 00:15:14,300 --> 00:15:18,700 Now we don't know if these are folks from the Pentagon or men 242 00:15:18,700 --> 00:15:21,800 in black or whatever. But he's on the phone as he 243 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,500 says, he hasn't even had time to get out of his flight, his 244 00:15:24,500 --> 00:15:28,100 flight suit. He says your quote probably, 245 00:15:28,100 --> 00:15:32,500 within about 20 minutes or so I spoke to someone that I assumed 246 00:15:32,500 --> 00:15:34,500 was from NORAD. That's the North American 247 00:15:34,500 --> 00:15:36,400 Aerospace Defense command. He revealed. 248 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:41,000 I have no idea like what level up to who I was talking to. 249 00:15:41,500 --> 00:15:44,900 I just wanted to answer them, I just basically handed a 250 00:15:44,900 --> 00:15:47,400 telephone. I was just basically handed to 251 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,300 telephone and said, hey, answer these questions. 252 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:55,200 Wow. And the last 15 years since he 253 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,600 said he has not speculated and what it might have been and had 254 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,600 not previously. Given given interviews had that 255 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,800 personal and had not previously given interviews because he did 256 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:08,400 not want his name attached to the little green men. 257 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:14,400 Crazies that are out there. Wow, you know, I suppose you 258 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,800 know he's afraid to become famous and have every UFO 259 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,800 fanatic on the earth. After I mean you could kind of 260 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,400 get the guys You could kind of understand why the guy would be 261 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,600 concerned about that. I'm sure he's guys are 262 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,800 professional pilot. All the respect to my mini seen 263 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,200 this. What could only be described as 264 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,800 a UFO and really all. He seems to want to do is just 265 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,800 report to thing like you supposed to and just go on with 266 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:42,000 his life and forget about it. He added, I do not want to be 267 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,900 part of that Community. It is just what we call a UFO. 268 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,700 I couldn't identify it. It was flying and it was an 269 00:16:49,700 --> 00:16:51,500 object. It's as simple as that. 270 00:16:51,700 --> 00:16:55,000 That I'll let the Nerds like do the math on what it was likely 271 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,500 to be. I just happened to be the person 272 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:04,099 that brought back the video, you can see how he's really, I guess 273 00:17:04,300 --> 00:17:06,500 I guess I think about this is the guys taking a totally 274 00:17:06,500 --> 00:17:08,400 professional video, he just went up, had a mission. 275 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,800 Its mission was to go get video of a UFO. 276 00:17:11,300 --> 00:17:13,300 That's what he did. He brought it back, he gave him 277 00:17:13,300 --> 00:17:16,000 the evidence and basically said don't bother me. 278 00:17:18,099 --> 00:17:21,200 Seems like a little bit different approach. 279 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,700 Then what kind of favor had he's been on the Joe Rogan show on 280 00:17:25,700 --> 00:17:27,700 the History Channel. Some other things it just kind 281 00:17:27,700 --> 00:17:32,000 of goes to show you how these UFO encounters affect people 282 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,500 differently. Some people are curious and want 283 00:17:34,500 --> 00:17:37,400 to learn more. Some people like to talk about 284 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:42,000 it I think it gives us some closure and some people just 285 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,900 want to compartmentalize it. They just say I saw it, that's 286 00:17:44,900 --> 00:17:46,400 what it was. I don't know what it was leave 287 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:50,800 me alone and that kind of seems to be the effect here with With 288 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:55,000 Underwood he went up, he pointed his Fleur camera at this thing. 289 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,500 He got the video he says you didn't even see it with his 290 00:17:57,500 --> 00:18:00,300 eyes, really seems like he doesn't want to talk about, it 291 00:18:00,300 --> 00:18:02,200 doesn't want to describe. It doesn't want to spend any 292 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:03,600 time, thinking about it. What it was? 293 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,700 He just want to pick up the video and brought it back in a 294 00:18:06,708 --> 00:18:11,300 way that almost lends more Credence to this encounter and 295 00:18:11,300 --> 00:18:15,200 the evidence that resulted I mean, You have a person who just 296 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,000 did his job. It's not like he's making money 297 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,500 off it and even if he did make money off talking about it. 298 00:18:19,500 --> 00:18:22,400 That's okay. But nobody can fault this guy. 299 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,400 I mean, it's a totally clean counter. 300 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,600 You have a Navy pilot. He says, Hey I was headed to do 301 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,900 my exercise that day. The sent me off to film this 302 00:18:29,900 --> 00:18:31,300 thing. I filmed it, I brought it back. 303 00:18:31,300 --> 00:18:33,500 I told him. I told him what I did and that's 304 00:18:33,500 --> 00:18:35,000 it. And he doesn't even talk about 305 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,300 having seen him visual if you just as I filmed it, I got the 306 00:18:38,300 --> 00:18:43,100 video he says very interesting. Now there's a couple other 307 00:18:43,100 --> 00:18:46,900 things I wanted to kind of bring up about this whole Tic Tac 308 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,600 issue before we kind of close it out here for just now. 309 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:56,300 But Joe Joe Rogan did an interview with forever and I can 310 00:18:56,300 --> 00:19:00,700 year ago, I think, and favor made a couple of comments. 311 00:19:00,700 --> 00:19:02,100 I thought were really interesting. 312 00:19:02,300 --> 00:19:07,100 He said that the radar does not really give a false Target. 313 00:19:07,300 --> 00:19:09,400 He said he said, just he said the radar. 314 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,900 So Advanced basically that It doesn't, it doesn't put a false 315 00:19:12,900 --> 00:19:16,300 Target out there and I think that's interesting, not that it 316 00:19:16,300 --> 00:19:19,200 would matter because we have video of this thing but you have 317 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:23,900 the you have the actual video of the UFO plus, you know, you have 318 00:19:23,900 --> 00:19:26,200 these pilots and radar. People telling, you know, this 319 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,400 stuff is so Advanced that we talked about yesterday, these 320 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:33,000 radar systems. This is 2004 and they can track 321 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:38,800 an item of sizes, but baseball, at 80,000 feet, Now, Underwood 322 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,600 points out that that are excuse me, favorite points out in that 323 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,600 show that Underwood, he said, through his targeting flare out 324 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,900 there, thereby exposing the Tic Tac UFO, and that's your 325 00:19:49,900 --> 00:19:52,700 forward-looking infrared receiver and he said, it's 326 00:19:52,700 --> 00:19:55,700 basically the same camera. That's, um, that's on the, it's 327 00:19:55,700 --> 00:19:58,600 on the targeting pod, just like a smart bomb, so they've got 328 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,300 these. They've got these, I suppose 329 00:20:01,300 --> 00:20:04,200 lasers are bombs what? It guided missiles onto that are 330 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:09,100 on the F-18 and they're using. They're using that infrared 331 00:20:09,100 --> 00:20:12,000 camera to film the saying so they're just, he's pointing that 332 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,900 he's pointing the F-18 where they tell him is that where the 333 00:20:14,900 --> 00:20:20,000 radar told him it's at and the fleurs de fleurs doing the rest 334 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,000 of the work. So you can kind of compare this 335 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,400 to. It's interesting to compare Fray 336 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:31,500 vers eyewitness account of a UFO and he described how he 337 00:20:31,500 --> 00:20:34,700 described it in the movements that was making how reacted and 338 00:20:34,700 --> 00:20:36,900 then compare that to under words account. 339 00:20:36,900 --> 00:20:39,100 And he just basically, cyclists, as I pointed the plane toward 340 00:20:39,100 --> 00:20:43,100 it, and let it film and then brought back to flare And that's 341 00:20:43,100 --> 00:20:45,600 why you and watch this, you know, minute minute and a half 342 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,800 video of that Tic Tac there's no sound to it, it's just the flu 343 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,000 are recording it. A lot of times when you find 344 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,700 articles or videos on the stuff they have all three of the of 345 00:20:56,700 --> 00:21:01,900 the Of the videos, kind of just jumbled together. 346 00:21:01,900 --> 00:21:05,400 You have this Tic Tac video. That's that's the flu video that 347 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,700 lasts about a minute. That's the one that was taken in 348 00:21:07,700 --> 00:21:10,600 2004. And then you have what's often 349 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:14,100 referred to as a go-fast and the gimbal video, those two videos 350 00:21:14,100 --> 00:21:17,100 were taken off the east coast and 2015. 351 00:21:17,100 --> 00:21:21,400 We'll talk about those later but this is a 2004 and somehow all 352 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,800 three of these videos and think about this, this Tic Tac video 353 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:30,800 was taken in 2004 and then some How it is released along with 354 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,700 the other two videos that were taken, what? 355 00:21:32,700 --> 00:21:35,900 Mike 2015? Those three videos are all 356 00:21:35,900 --> 00:21:40,200 jumbled together and released to the New York Times, okay? 357 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,200 Outside the normal chain of custody, who in turn releases 358 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,200 those two Elizondo into the Academy of stars, very strange, 359 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:48,800 very strange. All the stuff all came out the 360 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,100 public. Now, there's a vice.com video 361 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,600 and I guess, I thought it was just, it's also a discovery to. 362 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,100 There's a couple of my plate than both of these, I believe. 363 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,600 And the vice.com video says, they're speaking with this 364 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,800 unidentified radar person. And he says that there were 365 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,200 probably ten objects and the sky and then he says that he 366 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,000 launched The Intercept aircraft. And I think what he's talking 367 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:16,200 about, right there is Underwood now that seems a little sketchy 368 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,700 because Underwood says that they were heading toward an exercise 369 00:22:18,700 --> 00:22:21,900 Rec area. And this guy, this unnamed 370 00:22:21,900 --> 00:22:25,300 person says that he launched the aircraft to investigate these 371 00:22:25,300 --> 00:22:30,600 objects Secondly says the you he describes the person does 372 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,300 describe the same thing that favor did. 373 00:22:33,300 --> 00:22:36,000 How this UFO went from the surface of the water to an 374 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,900 altitude of 28,000 feet and just like, s like second or two. 375 00:22:39,900 --> 00:22:43,600 It's incredible, incredible distance and just no time. 376 00:22:43,900 --> 00:22:47,400 He says, he points out this radar person or alleged write 377 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,600 operas and points out that the UFO will silent when it should 378 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,500 have made rapid repeating Sonic booms. 379 00:22:53,900 --> 00:22:55,800 So, that's one of the things that we can tell this was not a 380 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,500 drone. Okay. things moving at, I think 381 00:22:58,500 --> 00:23:05,700 they said 3,700 miles an hour, which is what like My guys, five 382 00:23:05,700 --> 00:23:08,800 six times the speed of sound and it's not making any Sonic booms. 383 00:23:09,100 --> 00:23:13,400 He says it was 47. Ft long, ticked egg-shaped no 384 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,300 wings, no proportions, no propulsion system. 385 00:23:17,700 --> 00:23:19,900 And it could travel miles and miles and miles away. 386 00:23:19,900 --> 00:23:23,400 In a matter of a second or second or two. 387 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,500 I guess anything biologically said. 388 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,400 Anything biological net thing, given you Tonio, given Newtonian 389 00:23:31,500 --> 00:23:33,900 classical physics. It would have turned you too 390 00:23:33,900 --> 00:23:35,500 much. That's what the writer guy says. 391 00:23:35,500 --> 00:23:38,900 In other words, this thing was taking was accelerating and 392 00:23:38,900 --> 00:23:43,200 taking turns as such angles at such speeds that if you were a 393 00:23:43,208 --> 00:23:47,700 person or a dog, or cat or whatever, your biological Mass 394 00:23:47,700 --> 00:23:50,300 would have just turned to Mush, he would just been liquefied 395 00:23:50,300 --> 00:23:52,200 because of these incredible G-Force. 396 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:57,400 In fact, he says that human body chemist and about 8 G's But the 397 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:04,000 Tic Tac UFO. Was putting out, 1350, geez. 398 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,000 Now just think about that. That's about 150 times what the 399 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:13,300 human body can stand. Certainly that vehicle was not 400 00:24:13,300 --> 00:24:16,100 of this world. Now, when you put this all 401 00:24:16,100 --> 00:24:19,700 together, we can begin to see the chronology of events that 402 00:24:19,700 --> 00:24:24,400 happened here and it's a little more complicated than what it 403 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,300 was first presented as the soil. First came out, it just seemed 404 00:24:27,300 --> 00:24:33,500 like tomato flavor had seen. Had had seen the UFO and 405 00:24:33,500 --> 00:24:35,000 videotaped it. But what's going on here? 406 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:42,500 What you had days, fleets of UFOs being Observed on radar on 407 00:24:42,500 --> 00:24:49,700 very high quality radar. And then it culminated when you 408 00:24:49,700 --> 00:24:55,000 had these two sets of exercises by these F-18 Pilots that at 409 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:59,400 first, we have favor, actually putting eyes on the object 410 00:24:59,500 --> 00:25:02,800 flying down to investigate the object as the object shoots up 411 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,500 toward him from sea level to 28,000 feet. 412 00:25:06,500 --> 00:25:09,700 And like a matter of a second or two crossing, the nose of his 413 00:25:09,700 --> 00:25:14,400 pack Crossing the, the nose of his jet airplane, this F-18 just 414 00:25:14,700 --> 00:25:17,300 almost just imagine you're at you're in a urinal. 415 00:25:17,500 --> 00:25:20,500 Teen may be coming down, the has a top speed, I think, would set 416 00:25:20,500 --> 00:25:23,700 up 1370 mile-an-hour, say that Six coming down a thousand miles 417 00:25:23,700 --> 00:25:26,300 an hour. Even 500 miles an hour and this 418 00:25:26,300 --> 00:25:31,500 UFO blast past you within a few feet off the nose of your 419 00:25:31,500 --> 00:25:35,000 aircraft at speeds of three thousand three thousand seven 420 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,100 hundred mile an hour. We know from yesterday, we 421 00:25:38,100 --> 00:25:43,200 talked about this how this UFO darted off miles off to the to 422 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:48,800 the west of where the first, the first group of four For f-18s 423 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:53,400 were practicing at, they come back to the battle carrier and 424 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,900 the radar, people are still seeing this UFO out there and 425 00:25:56,900 --> 00:25:59,400 they've seen this. In fact, he says it's all 10 of 426 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,200 them, they dispatch more people who were, I guess Underwood, 427 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,700 apparently was going on on the exercise and just like forever 428 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,200 was redirected to investigate this UFO. 429 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,400 So he's headed on an exercise and I tell them no you're not 430 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,500 going to do that. You're going to fly up to this 431 00:26:14,500 --> 00:26:17,700 UFO at altitude. Turn your Fleur camera on And 432 00:26:17,700 --> 00:26:20,700 get pictures Force, which he says, he basically says, he 433 00:26:20,700 --> 00:26:22,900 didn't even see the UFO, he just pointed toward it, turn the 434 00:26:22,908 --> 00:26:26,700 camera on and brought the video back and oddly enough, when he 435 00:26:26,700 --> 00:26:28,900 got back to that, aircraft carrier. 436 00:26:29,900 --> 00:26:33,400 There was no normal debriefing, they put him on with the phone 437 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,800 with somebody that he assumed it was from NORAD. 438 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:40,200 He briefly told them, you know what, they ask him, he answered 439 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:45,800 their questions delivered, the Fleur video to them and that was 440 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,700 the last that he talked about it for 15 years. 441 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,600 What we don't know. Yes. 442 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,700 We know how the? We know how Tic Tac was spotted 443 00:26:54,900 --> 00:26:56,700 and we know who give Tic, Tac its name. 444 00:26:56,700 --> 00:27:01,200 That was David forever. We know how Tic Tac was filmed 445 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,700 at was Chad Underwood and is a half 1,800 Hornet. 446 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,200 He was sent up there by the Princeton. 447 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,900 He vide video at it and you brought it back. 448 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:15,200 So we know how the we know how the UFO was first spotted by the 449 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,000 eyewitness pilot. We know how it was subsequently 450 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,100 filmed by the second pilot mr. Underwood. 451 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:27,000 But what we don't know is how that video that Underwood took 452 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:33,700 and brought with him back to the Nimitz which he was ordered to 453 00:27:33,700 --> 00:27:36,700 do. We don't know how that video got 454 00:27:36,700 --> 00:27:40,100 from the USS, Nimitz to the New York Times. 455 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,600 We know that shortly after under would return with a video that 456 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,100 certain individuals showed up to the battle Fleet in a helicopter 457 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,400 and retrieve. It was called The Brick and that 458 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:56,600 was all the radar data involved in this Tic Tac UFO sighting. 459 00:27:58,300 --> 00:28:02,500 I left with it. So, we know that the video was 460 00:28:03,500 --> 00:28:04,900 eyewitness. Observed. 461 00:28:04,900 --> 00:28:09,900 We know that the video was observed and tracked on radar on 462 00:28:09,900 --> 00:28:15,100 the Princeton we know that. Chad Underwood videoed Fleur. 463 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:20,400 Videoed the Tic Tac video with his F-18 Hornet. 464 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,700 We know that video was returned to the Nimitz aircraft carrier. 465 00:28:25,100 --> 00:28:29,000 We know that somebody came and got all of that evidence, the 466 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,900 F-18 Fleur. Video, and the radar data. 467 00:28:33,900 --> 00:28:36,500 I'll put on what's called a brick, and we know they took 468 00:28:36,500 --> 00:28:38,100 that with them on that helicopter. 469 00:28:38,100 --> 00:28:43,200 Still were told but how that got from that helicopter to the New 470 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,200 York Times to tssaa to your YouTube video? 471 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,000 We still haven't figured out. Hopefully the next time this guy 472 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,900 spot something. So cool, they'll simply post it 473 00:28:54,900 --> 00:28:59,100 on the Navy website as they have promised and we can all enjoy it 474 00:28:59,500 --> 00:29:01,700 without having to wait around for 15 years. 475 00:29:01,700 --> 00:29:03,500 Until next time, this is UFO morning. 476 00:29:03,700 --> 00:29:04,500 Over and out.