1 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,040 Hello and welcome to the program You have on Warning. 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,400 In this episode, we ask, has the deep personing of David Gresch 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:10,480 begun? Yes, that's correct. 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,240 Has the deep personing of David Gresch begun? 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,320 Now, if you've been watching the news lately, there's been talk 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:22,840 about whistleblower David Gresch having his medical records 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,240 released by someone within the intelligence community. 8 00:00:25,240 --> 00:00:28,920 That was the accusation or implication by Ross Coulter. 9 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,080 It looks like it might be not quite that simple. 10 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:37,120 It seems The Intercept has recently produced article 11 00:00:38,160 --> 00:00:44,240 talking about one, possibly two mental health crisises that 12 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,120 David Gress suffered and instead of just treating this as a 13 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,480 medical emergency. And that's how I see this is not 14 00:00:51,480 --> 00:00:55,720 as some horrible thing. It appears to me at least, that 15 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,160 this guy is really just being attacked. 16 00:00:59,490 --> 00:01:03,370 It looks a awful lot like so much of the deep personing that 17 00:01:03,370 --> 00:01:06,890 we have seen happen to UFO whistleblowers in the past. 18 00:01:07,090 --> 00:01:10,610 We're going to take a look at a couple articles today and the 19 00:01:10,610 --> 00:01:13,530 definition of what is a limited hangout. 20 00:01:13,530 --> 00:01:16,530 So hang on. You know, this story really is 21 00:01:16,530 --> 00:01:19,090 kind of darker on the edges. I think it we have. 22 00:01:19,090 --> 00:01:20,690 This guy's come forward to Congress. 23 00:01:20,770 --> 00:01:23,570 He's made a lot of allegations about things he says were said 24 00:01:23,570 --> 00:01:26,440 to him. David Grass garnered a lot of 25 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,120 attention. And then we had two stories 26 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:33,440 break the last couple days. One, and once Ross Colter was 27 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,440 saying, hey, his medical records have been leaked. 28 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,600 And then this most recent article by the Intercept saying, 29 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,640 no, these aren't medical release medical records released. 30 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:47,200 These are simply documents that we obtained from the local 31 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,440 Sheriff's Office through a FOIA request. 32 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,160 And we'll get into it. And then the whole thing leads 33 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,750 us to the question of is this just an unfortunate episode in 34 00:01:56,750 --> 00:02:00,390 this poor man's life or was he targeted by the deep state to 35 00:02:00,390 --> 00:02:03,870 create a limited hangout? And we'll get into what a 36 00:02:03,870 --> 00:02:06,150 limited hangout is and how it plays in just a minute. 37 00:02:06,150 --> 00:02:10,550 But first I want to look at this article from dailymail dot Co 38 00:02:10,550 --> 00:02:14,550 dot UK. It says UFO whistleblower claims 39 00:02:14,550 --> 00:02:17,670 the government is trying to leak his medical records in an effort 40 00:02:17,670 --> 00:02:21,470 to smear his credibility after his testimony was slammed by 41 00:02:21,470 --> 00:02:24,070 head of Pentagon office as insulting. 42 00:02:24,690 --> 00:02:27,890 And the subtitle says the US intelligence community has been 43 00:02:27,890 --> 00:02:31,370 accused of trying to discredit a UFO whistleblower by revealing 44 00:02:31,370 --> 00:02:35,530 his mental health issue. David Grush delivered bombshell 45 00:02:35,530 --> 00:02:38,410 testimony last month in Congress about alleged government UFO 46 00:02:38,410 --> 00:02:41,090 programs. Investigative journalist Ross 47 00:02:41,090 --> 00:02:45,730 Coulter says a news outlet was given his medical records and 48 00:02:45,730 --> 00:02:49,010 the source could only be the intelligence community. 49 00:02:49,410 --> 00:02:52,010 This article is written by Will Potter for dailymail.com. 50 00:02:52,010 --> 00:02:57,620 Now this was released yesterday, August 9th, 2023. 51 00:02:58,220 --> 00:03:00,500 A UFO whistleblower who delivered bombshell conditional 52 00:03:00,500 --> 00:03:02,900 testimony last month has sensationally claimed the 53 00:03:02,900 --> 00:03:07,180 government is trying to leak his medical record to destroy his 54 00:03:07,180 --> 00:03:10,340 credibility. David Grush, a former 55 00:03:10,340 --> 00:03:13,980 high-ranking intelligence official, revealed to lawmakers 56 00:03:13,980 --> 00:03:17,900 details about a secret government program to retrieve 57 00:03:17,900 --> 00:03:21,500 non human technology. But after his testimony captured 58 00:03:21,500 --> 00:03:24,820 headlines about the alleged covert operation, he claims The 59 00:03:24,860 --> 00:03:27,700 Intercept informed him it planned to publish an article 60 00:03:27,700 --> 00:03:31,860 about his past struggles with mental health and PTSD. 61 00:03:32,460 --> 00:03:36,820 Wow, I'll read that again. But after his testimony captured 62 00:03:36,820 --> 00:03:41,340 headlines about the alleged covert operation, he claims The 63 00:03:41,340 --> 00:03:44,940 Intercept informed him it planned to publish an article 64 00:03:44,940 --> 00:03:49,140 about his past struggles with mental health and PTSD. 65 00:03:50,860 --> 00:03:53,780 You know, I guess this is what you can expect if you take on 66 00:03:53,780 --> 00:03:56,420 the deep state. Maybe this is maybe this is the 67 00:03:56,580 --> 00:04:00,340 the soft power as opposed to the hard power, it says. 68 00:04:00,340 --> 00:04:04,100 Local sheriff's allegedly denied being the source of the league, 69 00:04:04,100 --> 00:04:07,300 leading investigative journalist Ross Coulter to conclude the 70 00:04:07,340 --> 00:04:09,580 only possible source of information going to be the 71 00:04:09,580 --> 00:04:11,740 intelligence community. Now we're going to get into this 72 00:04:11,740 --> 00:04:15,140 because this sounds not correct to me and you can make up your 73 00:04:15,140 --> 00:04:16,779 own mind. I'm going to put the links to 74 00:04:16,779 --> 00:04:19,779 both these articles at the Buy Me a Coffee website. 75 00:04:20,290 --> 00:04:23,050 And by the way, thank you to those that support the program. 76 00:04:24,130 --> 00:04:27,970 Some kind person bought me a $50 pot of coffee and someone put in 77 00:04:27,970 --> 00:04:29,890 one for 20. That's awesome. 78 00:04:29,890 --> 00:04:31,650 It really helps her program. Thanks guys. 79 00:04:32,050 --> 00:04:33,050 Now. Anyway, it goes on here. 80 00:04:33,050 --> 00:04:35,890 It says. Gresh made several sensational 81 00:04:35,890 --> 00:04:39,890 claims as he appeared before Congress in July, including 82 00:04:39,890 --> 00:04:42,570 suggesting the government had killed people to cover up its 83 00:04:42,570 --> 00:04:46,730 operations and that the US had been in position of UFO since 84 00:04:46,730 --> 00:04:49,440 the 1930s. I'll say it again, you know, 85 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,080 that's what the code name for that is wet weather. 86 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,760 And that's the one, you know, when I was doing a little bit of 87 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,360 YouTube stuff, which really didn't work out too much for me, 88 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,960 I put that video up about wet weather and man, I got a nasty 89 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,400 letter about nasty response from YouTube. 90 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,600 It really seemed to hit a nerve with those guys. 91 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,920 I don't know, you know, you can find all kinds of crazy stuff on 92 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,080 there. But if you talk about wet 93 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,400 weather and people being killed over being UFO, whistleblowers 94 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,200 didn't name any names, just when there was some articles. 95 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,890 But man, that put a fire under somebody anyway, he says. 96 00:05:19,890 --> 00:05:22,410 He was among three military whistleblowers who testified 97 00:05:22,450 --> 00:05:26,090 under oath in July that they had first hand encounters knowledge 98 00:05:26,090 --> 00:05:29,010 about secret government programs involving technology that is not 99 00:05:29,010 --> 00:05:31,050 human. His remarks were condemned, 100 00:05:31,050 --> 00:05:34,690 however, by the head of the Pentagon UFO office, Sean 101 00:05:34,690 --> 00:05:36,650 Kirkpatrick, who slammed Russia's claims. 102 00:05:36,650 --> 00:05:38,770 Is insulting and we talked about that. 103 00:05:38,770 --> 00:05:40,690 I just think that's unprofessional, the way that 104 00:05:40,690 --> 00:05:44,030 this memo was leaked on. I think it was on leaked 105 00:05:44,030 --> 00:05:47,230 LinkedIn or something, and then somebody posted it to social 106 00:05:47,230 --> 00:05:49,230 media. Some anonymous person just 107 00:05:49,230 --> 00:05:51,910 seemed like a real sketchy way to handle that situation, I 108 00:05:51,910 --> 00:05:54,190 thought. My opinion. 109 00:05:54,310 --> 00:05:58,630 Gresch now believes the backlash to his testimony from officials 110 00:05:58,630 --> 00:06:02,910 has extended further, with the alleged articles released 111 00:06:02,910 --> 00:06:06,030 reportedly said to publicize his PTS, grief and depression 112 00:06:06,030 --> 00:06:08,690 struggles. But Coltart, who previously 113 00:06:08,690 --> 00:06:10,370 interviewed Gresch, said the information about the 114 00:06:10,370 --> 00:06:13,930 intelligence officials personal issues should never have been 115 00:06:13,930 --> 00:06:18,010 available. This is a document that if the 116 00:06:18,010 --> 00:06:23,170 media had done the right thing, would be in police, would be in 117 00:06:23,170 --> 00:06:26,610 his Police Department file in the County Sheriff's Office, he 118 00:06:26,610 --> 00:06:28,890 told News Nation. Well, that's exactly where they 119 00:06:28,890 --> 00:06:30,290 got it from. We'll find that out here in a 120 00:06:30,290 --> 00:06:32,530 minute, he said. Gresch assumed the journalist 121 00:06:32,530 --> 00:06:35,400 who obtained the falls sourced him through the Sheriff's 122 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,120 Office, but claims they confirmed the leak did not come 123 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,040 from them. That that's where it gets 124 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,240 sketchy. The only other place that had 125 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,240 this information is the intelligence community. 126 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,080 The intelligence community leaked that, he said. 127 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,600 Now he's making an assumption and you got to be careful 128 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,360 because we're talking, the stakes here are high, so we need 129 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:55,160 to be careful with this stuff. The Intercept has been contacted 130 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,240 for comment over the alleged leak. 131 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,680 And then it goes on, it says. Colthart added when he sat down 132 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:05,960 with Gresch, he admitted to his past mental health issues, which 133 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,120 were never deemed bad enough for intelligence officials to remove 134 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,600 a security clearance. That's correct. 135 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,040 When I asked him whether there was any dirt that anybody could 136 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,520 drag out to the discredit him, he barely thought it was worth 137 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,720 mentioning. But he acknowledged that he'd 138 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,880 suffer from PTSD when he returned from from Afghanistan, 139 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,600 Culture said. The intelligence community and 140 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:30,520 the Defense Department clearly accepted that there was no issue 141 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,390 because he was allowed to keep his security clearance. 142 00:07:34,830 --> 00:07:37,950 David served his country honorably and with distinction. 143 00:07:38,270 --> 00:07:42,190 He's a decorated officer. Grust explained his mental 144 00:07:42,190 --> 00:07:45,190 health issues in a statement regarding the potential article, 145 00:07:45,590 --> 00:07:48,910 saying his struggles when he returned from Afghanistan were 146 00:07:48,910 --> 00:07:50,910 worsened by the loss of a close friend. 147 00:07:51,350 --> 00:07:53,150 Quote. I was personally affected again 148 00:07:53,150 --> 00:07:56,470 years later when a close friend of mine and intelligence officer 149 00:07:56,470 --> 00:07:59,030 who was serving in the Air Force Special Operations Command at 150 00:07:59,030 --> 00:08:02,710 the time, took his own life shortly after we last spoke, 151 00:08:02,710 --> 00:08:05,430 Rush said. Wow, that must have been tough, 152 00:08:06,470 --> 00:08:08,910 quote. I'm proud to be transparent on 153 00:08:08,910 --> 00:08:12,150 this manner and I'm glad I got the help I needed to continue my 154 00:08:12,150 --> 00:08:15,470 intelligence career. It really bothers me that 155 00:08:15,470 --> 00:08:19,910 they're coming out, you know, really attacking this guy in a 156 00:08:19,910 --> 00:08:23,270 situation, trying to attack his credibility because of this 157 00:08:23,270 --> 00:08:27,150 issue, this health issue, mental health issue that he's, that he 158 00:08:27,150 --> 00:08:30,890 has had to deal with anyway. It goes on and says for anyone 159 00:08:30,890 --> 00:08:34,049 to seek use, for anyone to seek to use the suffering of 160 00:08:34,049 --> 00:08:38,169 veterans, people who are dealing with PTSD is utterly 161 00:08:38,169 --> 00:08:41,970 reprehensible. It's it's contemptible and it 162 00:08:41,970 --> 00:08:43,770 should be expected, Coulter said. 163 00:08:44,530 --> 00:08:46,530 Wow. There should be an investigation 164 00:08:46,530 --> 00:08:48,850 into how a sensitive thought like this was so obviously 165 00:08:48,850 --> 00:08:52,250 leaked within the intelligence community to try and discredit a 166 00:08:52,250 --> 00:08:55,100 good human being. And then it says. 167 00:08:55,100 --> 00:08:57,740 In July, Gresch was among three people who testified before 168 00:08:57,740 --> 00:09:01,100 Congress with intimate details of the US government's efforts 169 00:09:01,100 --> 00:09:03,580 to allegedly conceal UFO activity. 170 00:09:04,020 --> 00:09:06,940 At one point during the first of its kind hearing, he even 171 00:09:06,940 --> 00:09:08,900 appeared to suggest the government had killed people to 172 00:09:08,900 --> 00:09:12,470 keep its program a secret. Representative Tim Burchard, 173 00:09:12,510 --> 00:09:14,390 Republican Tennessee, asked Gross. 174 00:09:14,510 --> 00:09:17,270 Personally, have you heard anyone has been murdered? 175 00:09:17,510 --> 00:09:20,990 To which Grouse said. I have to be careful answering 176 00:09:20,990 --> 00:09:23,390 that question. I directed people with that 177 00:09:23,390 --> 00:09:25,110 knowledge to the appropriate authorities. 178 00:09:25,790 --> 00:09:28,230 Scary stuff. Gross also claimed he had been 179 00:09:28,230 --> 00:09:30,870 told by multiple credible intelligence officials of the US 180 00:09:30,870 --> 00:09:34,430 government had recovered non human aircraft that had 181 00:09:34,430 --> 00:09:38,120 biological pilots inside them. The effort to retrieve the 182 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,920 allegedly alien craft also saw multiple colleagues of his 183 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,520 injured by the UFOs. We've talked about this 184 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,080 extensively and about Doctor Gary Nolan studying that out 185 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,400 there at Berkeley. He was sworn in along with Ryan 186 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,280 Graves and esteemed former pilot and Navy fighter pilot Commander 187 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:58,960 David Fraver, who witnessed the emphasis 2000 infamous 2004 Tic 188 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,250 Tac UFO. The story saw Graves and several 189 00:10:02,250 --> 00:10:05,370 other military officers claimed to encounter a large smooth 190 00:10:05,410 --> 00:10:10,010 object during a retreat during a routine training exercise. 191 00:10:10,610 --> 00:10:14,330 Speaking about the the notorious incident last month, he said the 192 00:10:14,330 --> 00:10:17,050 craft was far superior to anything that we had at the time 193 00:10:17,370 --> 00:10:21,210 have today or looking to develop in the next 10 years. 194 00:10:21,370 --> 00:10:24,490 Favor described the Tic Tac object as being perfectly white, 195 00:10:24,490 --> 00:10:28,410 smooth, and had no windows, with two little objects that came out 196 00:10:28,410 --> 00:10:30,720 of the bottom. It was amazing to see. 197 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,240 I told my buddy I wanted to fly it, Fraber said during the first 198 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,080 of its kind hearing. I'm not like a UFO fanatic, 199 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,840 that's not me. But I will tell you that what we 200 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,880 saw with four sets of eyes over 5 minutes, still there's 201 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:44,800 nothing. We have nothing close to what he 202 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:46,720 said. It's just an incredible 203 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,680 technology. When Fraber was asked if he knew 204 00:10:49,680 --> 00:10:53,040 of any similar technology on Earth, he responded Nothing that 205 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,320 we can come, nothing that can come down from space, hang out 206 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,320 for three hours and then go and then go back up. 207 00:10:59,940 --> 00:11:02,780 So you kind of see a little bit of difference in the way these 208 00:11:02,780 --> 00:11:07,140 guys are being treated. You've got Graves and Flavor who 209 00:11:07,140 --> 00:11:12,900 simply claim to see the UFO. Now they've kind of been, I 210 00:11:12,900 --> 00:11:15,500 wouldn't say ignored, but just kind of put off to the side a 211 00:11:15,500 --> 00:11:18,300 little bit. But then this guy Grush comes 212 00:11:18,300 --> 00:11:21,100 out and he's making all kinds of accusations about where the 213 00:11:21,100 --> 00:11:24,780 bodies are buried, alien bodies, that is, that ships have been 214 00:11:24,780 --> 00:11:30,200 recovered and now we see some really kind of, I know, almost 215 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:31,800 seems like dark tactics happening. 216 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:36,400 We have to ask ourself, is he simply just said, I mean is 217 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,440 everything he said true? Take it, take it at face value. 218 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:45,920 And now this guy's just being crucified because he has had a 219 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:52,400 mental health crisis apparently. Or did they pick him in the 1st 220 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:57,970 place to kind of feed the stuff along with him, knowing that he 221 00:11:57,970 --> 00:12:01,250 was predisposed to this, knowing that you know, this was in 222 00:12:01,250 --> 00:12:07,450 there, that they could somehow down the road after he made all 223 00:12:07,450 --> 00:12:12,650 these revelations, tear him down like a straw man So that what 224 00:12:12,650 --> 00:12:14,410 they're actually what they're doing is they're creating 225 00:12:14,410 --> 00:12:17,730 limited hangout. If we go to Wikipedia, it says a 226 00:12:17,730 --> 00:12:22,130 limited hangout or partial hangout is, according to Spatial 227 00:12:22,130 --> 00:12:25,170 Assistant to the Deputy Director of the Central Intelligence 228 00:12:25,170 --> 00:12:30,730 Agency, Victor Marchetti. Quote spy jargon for a favored 229 00:12:31,050 --> 00:12:34,770 and frequently used gimmick of the clandestine professionals. 230 00:12:35,290 --> 00:12:39,410 When their veil of secrecy is shredded and they could no 231 00:12:39,410 --> 00:12:43,290 longer rely on a phony cover story to misinform the public, 232 00:12:43,730 --> 00:12:47,330 they resort to admitting, sometimes even volunteering, 233 00:12:47,610 --> 00:12:52,020 some of the truth while still managing to withhold the key and 234 00:12:52,020 --> 00:12:56,340 damaging facts in the case. The public, however, is usually 235 00:12:56,340 --> 00:12:58,700 so intrigued by the new information that it never thinks 236 00:12:58,700 --> 00:13:03,540 to pursue the matter further. So could it be that David Gresh 237 00:13:03,540 --> 00:13:08,340 is simply a victim where they fed him probably some stuff that 238 00:13:08,340 --> 00:13:10,820 was true, maybe a little bit of stuff that wasn't true. 239 00:13:11,340 --> 00:13:18,960 But knowing that he had this going on in his life, that they 240 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,640 could bring this up later on? I don't know. 241 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,440 It seems like they just maybe have let this, all this talk 242 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,720 that he's brought to the surface come forward to kind of let the 243 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,400 steam off of things a little bit. 244 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,600 And then when it's gotten too far or too many questions have 245 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,160 been asked or too many Congress people are involved, then they 246 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:43,840 look for a way to discredit and deperson this guy. 247 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,280 And it seems like that could be what's happening here. 248 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:50,100 Maybe this mental health crisis that he experienced provided 249 00:13:50,100 --> 00:13:52,540 them with that perfect opportunity. 250 00:13:53,740 --> 00:13:57,540 Really, really just kind of shows you the level of hardball 251 00:13:57,820 --> 00:14:00,460 that we're dealing with here. Now I'll take a look at this 252 00:14:00,460 --> 00:14:02,820 article from The Intercept, and I'm going to post this on the 253 00:14:02,820 --> 00:14:05,940 Buy Me Coffee website. And about halfway through, the 254 00:14:05,940 --> 00:14:09,420 article actually shows you the four requests and the response 255 00:14:09,420 --> 00:14:12,260 that they got from this Loudon County Sheriff's Office. 256 00:14:12,740 --> 00:14:17,140 Now what happened was there apparently was a situation at 257 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:19,760 this house that Gresh used to live in. 258 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:29,840 So and the the the report here says from the officer, I'll just 259 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,320 read through it real quick and then we'll go through the 260 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,640 article. It says at approx No. 261 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,920 They get the address but it doesn't get the Gresh's name. 262 00:14:37,060 --> 00:14:45,580 On 10/1/18 at approximately 1851 hours I was dispatched to 15624 263 00:14:45,740 --> 00:14:49,740 Avebury Manor Place in reference to a suicide threat on. 264 00:14:50,140 --> 00:14:54,100 Upon arrival I met with Blank. She advised that her husband 265 00:14:54,100 --> 00:14:56,700 Blank had made a suicidal statement to her today. 266 00:14:57,100 --> 00:15:00,550 So I'll go ahead and I'll read this report here from the 267 00:15:00,550 --> 00:15:02,990 deputy. This is Loudon County Sheriff 268 00:15:02,990 --> 00:15:06,670 request and if this is redacted it gives the address and the 269 00:15:06,670 --> 00:15:12,110 date and and as I said this this article reports that this was a 270 00:15:12,110 --> 00:15:14,110 house that Gresch used to own him and his wife. 271 00:15:14,430 --> 00:15:18,270 Anyway, it says on 1/1/18 at approximately 1851 hours. 272 00:15:18,270 --> 00:15:23,310 I was dispatched to 15624 Avebury Manor Place in reference 273 00:15:23,310 --> 00:15:26,510 to a suicide threat. Upon arrival, I met with Blank. 274 00:15:26,590 --> 00:15:30,030 She advised that her husband Blank had made a suicidal 275 00:15:30,030 --> 00:15:33,510 statement to her today. She went on to say that earlier 276 00:15:33,510 --> 00:15:37,990 this evening she saw that Blank was drunk. 277 00:15:38,070 --> 00:15:41,470 She told him that he was an alcoholic and that he needed to 278 00:15:41,470 --> 00:15:44,830 get help. He replied, quote, I've just 279 00:15:44,830 --> 00:15:46,870 been waiting for you to kill me. UN quote. 280 00:15:47,350 --> 00:15:50,590 I advised her that I needed more than that in order to take him 281 00:15:50,590 --> 00:15:55,640 into custody under an ECEO. Sergeant Salameda attempted to 282 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,520 call him with no success. I went to his house and knocked 283 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,800 on the door, but he did not answer the door. 284 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:07,560 The process for obtaining an echo was explained to her and 285 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,680 she decided to get that magistrate to issue me an echo 286 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:15,080 at 20-30 hours. Magistrate Waller issued an echo 287 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,280 for blank. I responded back to the house at 288 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:23,590 2145 hours and placed him in custody under the Echo and I 289 00:16:23,590 --> 00:16:27,990 transported him to Cornwall ER where Ashley from mental health 290 00:16:28,190 --> 00:16:31,630 interviewed him. After speaking with him, 291 00:16:31,670 --> 00:16:34,630 actually determined that she was going to have the magistrate 292 00:16:34,630 --> 00:16:37,670 issue ATDO for him. That means you're putting him in 293 00:16:37,670 --> 00:16:40,830 the psych word at three at O 315 hours. 294 00:16:40,830 --> 00:16:44,230 I executed the TDO and transported him upstate to 295 00:16:44,310 --> 00:16:47,670 Lamps. No further case closed. 296 00:16:48,030 --> 00:16:53,080 So it looks like this person, whoever it was their wife, 297 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,800 called into the Sheriff's Office and said he's suicidal. 298 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,120 The deputy shows up and says, well, I don't have enough 299 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,320 evidence of that, I just can't take him into a psych ward, you 300 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,760 know, like that. So she went and filed A 301 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,720 complaint with the magistrate. I don't know about here in 302 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,880 Lowland County but most states you've got to show that the 303 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,160 person is a danger to themselves or others to get him committed 304 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,400 lot harder in some states than others. 305 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,440 But usually it takes a couple people real old as friends, 306 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,480 whatever they're very close to the person or a professional to 307 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:28,319 say I hey I heard this person make suicidal threats or 308 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,440 homicidal threats and then you can do something or else if 309 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,320 they're just you know, really out of it. 310 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,640 But but look at look at all the mentally ill people that are 311 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,960 wandering our streets today as homeless victims and and if they 312 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,000 don't want to get help and then that's head of mind. 313 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,960 A lot of times they can't. They're just not forced into 314 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,700 treatment. So this this sounds a little, 315 00:17:47,500 --> 00:17:51,220 wow a little tough to me. This poor guy he's got PTSD. 316 00:17:51,580 --> 00:17:54,780 And if this is the case and it's you know there's a situation at 317 00:17:54,780 --> 00:17:57,500 home, it's a domestic situation, doesn't say anything about any 318 00:17:57,500 --> 00:18:01,060 kind of violence. Just she's says that he's that 319 00:18:01,060 --> 00:18:03,620 he made a comment about hey, I'm waiting for you to kill me and I 320 00:18:03,620 --> 00:18:07,020 said not to get him locked up. Anyway, to me that's like a 321 00:18:07,020 --> 00:18:09,500 personal thing. Why they're throwing at this 322 00:18:09,780 --> 00:18:13,180 this at this guy After the hearings, it just seems so 323 00:18:13,180 --> 00:18:14,980 sketchy now. This article is from 324 00:18:14,980 --> 00:18:17,860 theintercept.com. It says UFO whistleblower kept 325 00:18:17,860 --> 00:18:21,660 secret, kept security clearance after psychiatric detention. 326 00:18:22,300 --> 00:18:25,300 The star witness of the Congress's UFO hearing, David 327 00:18:25,300 --> 00:18:28,740 Grush retained his clearance despite alleged substance abuse 328 00:18:28,740 --> 00:18:31,020 issues. For your documents review 329 00:18:31,500 --> 00:18:37,180 Written by Clin Klipenstein. The sad thing about this article 330 00:18:37,180 --> 00:18:41,380 is it it plays into so many misconceptions and biases about 331 00:18:41,830 --> 00:18:44,630 mental illness. And you know, mental illness can 332 00:18:44,630 --> 00:18:50,590 come in a ton of different forms on a scale from easily treatable 333 00:18:50,870 --> 00:18:55,750 to real bad news. And just to say this guy had an 334 00:18:55,750 --> 00:18:58,390 episode like this, he had a mental health episode. 335 00:18:58,910 --> 00:19:03,030 He ends up in a in a in a mental psych ward or something. 336 00:19:03,030 --> 00:19:04,670 Sounds like maybe for a day or two. 337 00:19:04,990 --> 00:19:07,790 Maybe he just needed some anti anxiety medication or something. 338 00:19:07,790 --> 00:19:12,690 I don't know, but to say that he should be precluded from having 339 00:19:12,690 --> 00:19:16,850 his national security clearance seems kind of tough to me. 340 00:19:17,490 --> 00:19:20,690 Since non human biological material recover from reported 341 00:19:20,690 --> 00:19:23,490 UFO crashes. A decades long secret program to 342 00:19:23,490 --> 00:19:25,450 reverse engineer extraterrestrial craft. 343 00:19:25,450 --> 00:19:27,610 A government cover up employing administrative terrorism to 344 00:19:27,610 --> 00:19:29,890 silence truth tellers. These are some of the 345 00:19:29,890 --> 00:19:33,890 extraordinary claims made to Congress by Major by Major David 346 00:19:33,890 --> 00:19:38,310 Grush, a 36 year old retired Air Force intelligence officer who 347 00:19:38,310 --> 00:19:43,350 also served as an advisor to the Pentagon's unidentified aerial 348 00:19:43,350 --> 00:19:46,350 phenomena task force. Last month, the House Oversight 349 00:19:46,350 --> 00:19:49,230 Committee opened an investigation after Gresh 350 00:19:49,230 --> 00:19:52,150 claimed he was retaliated against for blowing the whistle 351 00:19:52,150 --> 00:19:55,470 on the US government's alleged UAP recovery program. 352 00:19:56,150 --> 00:20:00,550 Security clearances of the sort Gresh has held are subject to. 353 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:05,040 Strict requirements, including the regarding psychological 354 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:09,760 episodes and substance abuses. Grusch has used his high level 355 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,080 clearance to shore up his credibility, telling the 356 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,120 committee I was cleared to literally all relevant 357 00:20:15,120 --> 00:20:18,640 compartments in a position of extreme trust in both my 358 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,680 military and civilian capacities. 359 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,840 At this point in the article, I'm getting the feeling of this 360 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,760 is kind of a hit piece, I have to tell you. 361 00:20:26,740 --> 00:20:29,780 But police records obtained by The Intercept under the Virginia 362 00:20:29,780 --> 00:20:33,500 Freedom of Information Act revealed that October 1st, 2018, 363 00:20:33,500 --> 00:20:36,500 Gresch was committed to a mental health facility based in part on 364 00:20:36,500 --> 00:20:40,420 a report that he made a suicidal statement after Gresch's wife 365 00:20:40,420 --> 00:20:44,540 told him he was an alcoholic and suggested that he get help Okay. 366 00:20:44,860 --> 00:20:49,860 I have to disagree with that. I think that that's just not 367 00:20:49,860 --> 00:20:52,420 correct. It says right there in the 368 00:20:52,420 --> 00:20:55,470 sheriff's statement that the, the, the, the law enforcement 369 00:20:55,470 --> 00:20:59,150 officer went there, Okay, he talked to the wife and someone. 370 00:20:59,150 --> 00:21:02,030 This is Gresch's wife. And she told him what he said 371 00:21:02,030 --> 00:21:03,630 about I've been waiting for you to kill me. 372 00:21:04,150 --> 00:21:09,710 So that's the statement that these guys had access to. 373 00:21:10,190 --> 00:21:12,670 I don't know what Gresch said to that mental health provider once 374 00:21:12,670 --> 00:21:14,790 he was in the ER. Maybe he said something, maybe 375 00:21:14,790 --> 00:21:17,190 he didn't. But let's be clear about that. 376 00:21:17,470 --> 00:21:21,190 The reason that he went, the reason that he was committed to 377 00:21:21,230 --> 00:21:24,790 a mental health facility, was that after law enforcement 378 00:21:24,790 --> 00:21:28,710 responded to the wife's claim, she went to the magistrate and 379 00:21:28,710 --> 00:21:31,030 got an order to have him evaluated. 380 00:21:31,390 --> 00:21:33,910 So maybe she told the magistrate something different than that. 381 00:21:33,950 --> 00:21:38,350 I don't know. But we don't know that because 382 00:21:38,470 --> 00:21:40,110 apparently it's still sealed. I guess. 383 00:21:40,110 --> 00:21:43,430 I don't know. And then after he was evaluated 384 00:21:43,430 --> 00:21:46,110 then the mental health worker apparently made a decision that 385 00:21:46,110 --> 00:21:49,430 he needed to stay a couple nights or a night or what 386 00:21:49,430 --> 00:21:52,280 however long it was in this mental health facility for 387 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:56,800 evaluation. So they're making a leap there 388 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:04,040 did and to say it was suicidal. Do we know a suicidal maybe that 389 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,840 could. I'm not saying this is the case 390 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,920 but the the comment that I've been waiting for you to kill me, 391 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,600 that could be made by somebody who was afraid that their mate 392 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,920 was actually going to kill him. So this author here I think has 393 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:19,720 made a leap that that he doesn't he's not justified in making it 394 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,440 goes on and says quote a husband asks complaint and to kill him. 395 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,080 No that's not what it says. That's not that's not what it 396 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:31,360 says inherit in a report it says, he replied I've just been 397 00:22:31,360 --> 00:22:36,440 waiting for you to kill me. So you do you see how they're 398 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,360 twisting the words here? It's like it's like this. 399 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,240 It's like the writer's articles trying to deperson this guy. 400 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:49,700 I I just, I find this kind of kind of disgusting in a way. 401 00:22:49,700 --> 00:22:54,060 If you've known, had loved ones who've had mental health issues, 402 00:22:55,060 --> 00:22:57,300 a little bit of understanding can go a long way. 403 00:22:57,300 --> 00:23:01,500 So for them just to just to sit here and just and just smash on 404 00:23:01,500 --> 00:23:03,540 this guy like this, I just think it's terrible. 405 00:23:04,100 --> 00:23:06,340 He goes on, as his husband asked complaining to kill him. 406 00:23:06,380 --> 00:23:08,060 I'm not seeing that in the complaint. 407 00:23:08,140 --> 00:23:10,700 A police report produced by Loudon County and shower states 408 00:23:11,060 --> 00:23:14,340 he is very angry. Guns are locked up now. 409 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,160 That's what she told the cops. Okay. 410 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,240 That's what it says here, she went on to say. 411 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,400 And she went on to say that earlier this evening she saw 412 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,840 that Blank was drunk. She told him that he was an 413 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,880 alcoholic and that he needed to get help. 414 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,760 He replied. I've just been waiting for you 415 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,760 to kill me. I advised her that I needed more 416 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,760 than that. That's a cop telling her I can't 417 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,520 arrest him in order to take him into custody under an ECO. 418 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:47,130 Sergeant Salamita attempted to call him with no success. 419 00:23:47,450 --> 00:23:50,090 I went to his house and knocked on the door, but he did not 420 00:23:50,090 --> 00:23:52,890 answer the door. The process for obtaining an 421 00:23:53,210 --> 00:23:55,530 Echo was explained to her and she decided to get the 422 00:23:55,530 --> 00:23:59,410 magistrate to issue an Echo. So the cop goes there and he 423 00:23:59,410 --> 00:24:02,130 says I can't arrest this guy. I can't take this guy into the 424 00:24:02,130 --> 00:24:04,370 psych or I don't. You have to have a court order 425 00:24:04,370 --> 00:24:06,170 for that. You just can't go pick somebody 426 00:24:06,170 --> 00:24:08,210 up. If that cop thought that this 427 00:24:08,210 --> 00:24:12,130 guy was a clear and present danger to himself or others, 428 00:24:12,710 --> 00:24:14,750 believe me, they could have gotten that house. 429 00:24:15,590 --> 00:24:18,670 But it says here that they attempted to call him with no 430 00:24:18,670 --> 00:24:20,590 success. I went to the house and knocked 431 00:24:20,590 --> 00:24:22,710 on the door, but he did not answer the door. 432 00:24:22,990 --> 00:24:25,350 So the police officer didn't even have any contact with this 433 00:24:25,350 --> 00:24:30,470 guy until after he got the court order from the magistrate. 434 00:24:31,070 --> 00:24:33,910 Okay and there's comments he did. 435 00:24:33,910 --> 00:24:36,390 This is from the cops. He did not make suicidal 436 00:24:36,390 --> 00:24:39,030 threats. He is an alcoholic. 437 00:24:39,350 --> 00:24:42,110 She told him that he needed to get some help. 438 00:24:42,580 --> 00:24:45,100 He said, I've just been waiting for you to kill me. 439 00:24:45,380 --> 00:24:48,020 That's in the summary here. So the cop looks at the 440 00:24:48,020 --> 00:24:50,140 situation. He's like, well, it's a husband 441 00:24:50,140 --> 00:24:51,420 and wife. They're having a fight. 442 00:24:51,740 --> 00:24:54,660 You know, he's not, obviously he's not a threat to kill 443 00:24:54,660 --> 00:24:57,420 himself. Like immediately, he tells her, 444 00:24:57,420 --> 00:24:59,540 if you're really worried about this, you need to go talk to it. 445 00:24:59,540 --> 00:25:05,180 You need to go file a request with with the judge, and that's 446 00:25:05,180 --> 00:25:07,500 what you do when you want to get somebody involuntarily 447 00:25:07,500 --> 00:25:09,620 committed. You have to go to magistrate. 448 00:25:10,340 --> 00:25:15,970 You take in a couple of of you just they could be handwritten 449 00:25:15,970 --> 00:25:18,730 letters from the people that usually the family members or 450 00:25:18,730 --> 00:25:22,410 loved ones explain to the judge. I heard this person say at this 451 00:25:22,410 --> 00:25:23,850 time they wanted to kill themselves. 452 00:25:23,850 --> 00:25:26,530 They wanted to kill somebody else or this person has done 453 00:25:26,530 --> 00:25:29,370 this or that to and then the judge has to decide. 454 00:25:29,410 --> 00:25:33,170 The judge decides. I don't know about Virginia, but 455 00:25:33,170 --> 00:25:36,600 in at least my state that then the judge makes a decision, is 456 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,440 this person the danger to himself or others? 457 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,880 And if he decides that, yeah, they are, then they can send 458 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:46,320 them to a hospital or whatever. They usually they'll be like a 459 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,480 preliminary observation by psychiatrists. 460 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,840 And then that psychiatrist will make the determination whether 461 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,000 or not to send the person off to like a psychiatric hospital. 462 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,280 So they kind of they they go through a process first to a 463 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,360 judge, then to like a hospital's ER setting where they're 464 00:26:04,360 --> 00:26:09,420 examined by a psychiatrist and then on to a psychiatric 465 00:26:09,580 --> 00:26:12,380 hospital if that's needed. There's a process you have to go 466 00:26:12,380 --> 00:26:15,060 through and they're making it seem like this guy was just, you 467 00:26:15,060 --> 00:26:18,780 know, like like he was in a complete psychotic break. 468 00:26:18,780 --> 00:26:20,820 And I'm not seeing that. I'm just seeing a guy who maybe 469 00:26:20,820 --> 00:26:25,100 was intoxicated who made a comment to his wife that the The 470 00:26:25,100 --> 00:26:28,260 Intercept is, is perceiving as suicidal. 471 00:26:28,460 --> 00:26:31,860 Now what he said and that we're not told about, I don't know. 472 00:26:32,380 --> 00:26:36,460 But something must have been said, because at any rate, he 473 00:26:36,460 --> 00:26:40,580 ends up getting committed Okay and apparently tweeted for this 474 00:26:40,580 --> 00:26:42,340 thing and carries on. That goes on, since Gresch did 475 00:26:42,340 --> 00:26:46,340 not respond to requests for comment, e-mail via his lawyer 476 00:26:46,580 --> 00:26:49,260 or to a voicemail on his phone. But on Tuesday evening, Ross 477 00:26:49,260 --> 00:26:51,780 Coulter, an Australian independent journalist who 478 00:26:52,260 --> 00:26:55,540 covers UFOs and has interviewed Gresch, posted a statement 479 00:26:55,540 --> 00:26:58,460 attributed Gresch, on X, the platform formerly known as 480 00:26:58,460 --> 00:27:01,150 Twitter Quote. It has come to my attention that 481 00:27:01,150 --> 00:27:04,390 The Intercept intends to publish an article about two instances 482 00:27:04,390 --> 00:27:08,950 in 2014 and 2018 that highlights previous struggle personal 483 00:27:08,950 --> 00:27:11,470 struggles I have with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, 484 00:27:11,470 --> 00:27:13,310 grief, and depression, the statement reads. 485 00:27:14,030 --> 00:27:18,030 As I stated under oath in my congressional testimony over 486 00:27:18,030 --> 00:27:21,840 credentialed intelligence and military personnel provided 487 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,480 myself and my colleagues information. 488 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,760 I transmitted the Intelligence Community Inspector General and 489 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,560 I took the leadership role to represent the concerns of 490 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,280 distinguishing patriotic individuals. 491 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,520 Gresch's wife, Jessica Gresch, did not respond to several 492 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,360 requests for comment. That poor lady, a former 493 00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:39,760 colleague of Gresch, expressed shock that he retained his 494 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,920 clearance after the 2014 incident, which was also 495 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,800 documented in public records obtained by The Intercept. 496 00:27:48,090 --> 00:27:51,170 Quote I think it's like any Instore group, once you're in, 497 00:27:51,490 --> 00:27:54,530 they generally protect their own, said the former colleague, 498 00:27:54,530 --> 00:27:57,290 who asked not to be named because they feared professional 499 00:27:57,290 --> 00:28:00,170 reprisals. The former colleague said that 500 00:28:00,170 --> 00:28:04,730 the 2014 incident was known to agression superiors to claim 501 00:28:04,730 --> 00:28:08,170 that Coulter appeared to confirm in an interview on News Nation, 502 00:28:08,770 --> 00:28:11,930 a subscription television network owned by Next to Our 503 00:28:11,930 --> 00:28:13,340 Media. Wow. 504 00:28:13,420 --> 00:28:16,140 The intelligence community and the Defense Department clearly 505 00:28:16,140 --> 00:28:18,860 accepted there was no issue because he was allowed to keep 506 00:28:18,860 --> 00:28:22,700 his security clearance. On the evening of October 1st, 507 00:28:22,740 --> 00:28:27,700 2018, wife's Gresch's wife contacted the Lonnie Cobbs 508 00:28:27,700 --> 00:28:31,060 Sheriff's Office to report that Gresch was drunk and suicidal. 509 00:28:31,060 --> 00:28:36,300 According to the report, she told him that he was an 510 00:28:36,300 --> 00:28:38,580 alcoholic and that he needed to get help, according to a 511 00:28:38,580 --> 00:28:40,740 narrative account from the Sheriff's Office. 512 00:28:40,740 --> 00:28:42,180 He replied. I've just been waiting for you 513 00:28:42,180 --> 00:28:44,180 to kill me. Yeah, so it goes through this a 514 00:28:44,180 --> 00:28:46,460 little bit here says. Though the names were redacted, 515 00:28:46,460 --> 00:28:48,700 the document described as husband and wife at a home that 516 00:28:48,700 --> 00:28:50,460 Grush and his wife owned at the time. 517 00:28:50,460 --> 00:28:53,180 According to Loudon County records, the property has since 518 00:28:53,180 --> 00:28:55,420 been sold. The incident report also 519 00:28:55,420 --> 00:28:58,700 describes the subject as Air Force International Guard and 520 00:28:58,700 --> 00:29:00,660 previously active duty Air Force. 521 00:29:00,780 --> 00:29:03,820 Grush served in the Air Force and the Air National Guard. 522 00:29:04,180 --> 00:29:07,020 The man could be violent and very strong. 523 00:29:08,380 --> 00:29:12,020 The man could be violent, comma, very strong, the report notes, 524 00:29:12,060 --> 00:29:15,660 adding that he might be suffering from PTSD sometimes 525 00:29:15,660 --> 00:29:18,100 makes these threats when drunk, the report continues. 526 00:29:18,140 --> 00:29:21,980 He has never harmed himself. OK, well, let's just be let's be 527 00:29:21,980 --> 00:29:24,420 clear. In the report, we see that the 528 00:29:24,420 --> 00:29:25,820 deputy hadn't even talked to the guy. 529 00:29:25,820 --> 00:29:28,700 So this is all coming from, I don't know, the guy's wife that 530 00:29:28,700 --> 00:29:31,220 called in or whoever was there. This is all secondhand stuff. 531 00:29:31,740 --> 00:29:34,020 The Narrative case report describes law enforcement 532 00:29:34,020 --> 00:29:37,140 officers detaining Gresham under an emergency custody order and 533 00:29:37,140 --> 00:29:40,540 taking him to a local emergency room, where a mental health 534 00:29:40,540 --> 00:29:43,620 specialist decided to ask a magistrate to issue a temporary 535 00:29:43,620 --> 00:29:46,860 detention order based on the order. 536 00:29:46,860 --> 00:29:50,060 An officer transferred Gres to Loudon Adult Medical Psychiatric 537 00:29:50,060 --> 00:29:53,580 Services in an inpatient program in the end of a Loudon Cornwall 538 00:29:53,580 --> 00:29:56,900 Medical Campus in Leesburg. Well, they're kind of leaving 539 00:29:56,900 --> 00:30:01,630 out a couple steps there, and that is that the police officer 540 00:30:02,510 --> 00:30:06,070 explained to the wife at the scene that he couldn't take the 541 00:30:06,070 --> 00:30:10,790 guy in based on what he saw, that she had to go get a court 542 00:30:10,790 --> 00:30:15,110 order, which she did. And even then the judge didn't 543 00:30:15,110 --> 00:30:17,070 commit him. The judge sent him in to be 544 00:30:17,070 --> 00:30:20,630 examined at, you know, at the hospital by psychiatrist, I 545 00:30:20,630 --> 00:30:23,310 suppose, or mental health worker, who then decided to send 546 00:30:23,310 --> 00:30:26,390 him to Enova loud. And so we don't know what all is 547 00:30:26,390 --> 00:30:30,500 going on there, it says. A separate police report dated 548 00:30:30,500 --> 00:30:36,500 October 13th, 2014 describes a similar incident, A 27 year old 549 00:30:36,500 --> 00:30:39,060 male threatening suicide at a property that the county of 550 00:30:39,060 --> 00:30:41,940 records show was owned at the time by Grouch and his exwife, 551 00:30:42,300 --> 00:30:45,860 Kenda McMurray. That property has been sold. 552 00:30:46,140 --> 00:30:50,140 The report notes that he is violent and has access to a 553 00:30:50,140 --> 00:30:53,260 weapon. McMurray did not respond to 554 00:30:53,260 --> 00:31:00,000 multiple requests for comment. Now they're not showing that 555 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,400 report here. Wow. 556 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,800 Two Republican members of the House Oversight Committee 557 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,320 represented, Annapolina Luna and Tim Burchard, were asked with 558 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,400 organizing the July 26th hearing after Gretchen's whistleblower 559 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,360 claims became public. Not all House Republicans are 560 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,760 supportive of the effort. And then it just kind of goes on 561 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,600 to talk about this Representative Turner, who says 562 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:27,790 he doesn't believe any of it. This this article to me is 563 00:31:28,790 --> 00:31:34,110 pretty clearly directed against Gresh. 564 00:31:34,550 --> 00:31:36,830 It talks a little bit about culture, comparing him to to 565 00:31:36,830 --> 00:31:40,310 Daniel Ellsberg. You know, this is a big side 566 00:31:40,310 --> 00:31:44,830 track to me. We've got this guy, you know, a 567 00:31:44,830 --> 00:31:48,230 veteran, he comes forward with these whistleblower allegations. 568 00:31:49,390 --> 00:31:52,430 He says that he's got a bunch of more names he can name. 569 00:31:52,750 --> 00:31:54,870 He's been in the. He's he's kind of become the 570 00:31:54,870 --> 00:32:00,280 focus of this whole UFOA question about whether or not 571 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:05,960 the deep says hiding stuff. Now all they have to do is put 572 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:10,080 David Gresh picture front and center and destroy this guy, 573 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,960 deep person him. And then what they've done is 574 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,840 they've allowed a a vehicle for all of the debunkers and the 575 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:22,160 people who are afraid to afraid to face reality here to say, 576 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:26,060 well, look, this UFO stuff, it's all a bunch of nonsense. 577 00:32:26,060 --> 00:32:29,860 Look, the guy that brought it up, he's crazy, he's suicidal, 578 00:32:30,060 --> 00:32:32,460 he's an alcoholic and say all these nasty things about this 579 00:32:32,460 --> 00:32:37,060 guy and that what that does is it allows the people that could 580 00:32:37,060 --> 00:32:40,140 have created this whole situation, It allows them to 581 00:32:40,580 --> 00:32:45,860 sure bring forward all of the UFO information in generalities. 582 00:32:46,140 --> 00:32:49,380 Talk about it. Let the people on the one, the 583 00:32:49,380 --> 00:32:52,540 one side of the issue that actually believe that UF O's are 584 00:32:52,540 --> 00:32:54,780 real. Let them think that, well, maybe 585 00:32:54,780 --> 00:32:57,220 there'll be some disclosure. Maybe people are finally 586 00:32:57,220 --> 00:33:00,780 recognizing this stuff, You know, let them feel recognized 587 00:33:00,780 --> 00:33:04,580 for what they see as real. Let a little steam out of the 588 00:33:04,580 --> 00:33:06,980 kettle. And then right when it gets to a 589 00:33:06,980 --> 00:33:10,020 crescendo where this guy has his big meeting, that the big 590 00:33:10,020 --> 00:33:13,940 hearings, he makes these revelations, but he doesn't 591 00:33:14,340 --> 00:33:19,260 actually come out and name names or give the locations of where 592 00:33:19,260 --> 00:33:22,420 the craft or the bodies are at. But he does imply all the stuff. 593 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,040 So let him do that. Let him get it all out there 594 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,600 while we hide the real facts. And then right when it looks 595 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:34,600 like maybe he's going to start naming names, then you bring up 596 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,800 this mental health crisis, these two crisises from 14 and 18, and 597 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,480 you just blast the guy. And when you do that, then you 598 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,600 try to destroy his character as a witness. 599 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,960 All of a sudden, all this talk about David Gresh, whistleblower 600 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,560 becomes David Gresh, mental patient. 601 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,810 And the whole thing just kind of just kind of cools back down. 602 00:33:53,970 --> 00:33:58,290 You you turn the stove off, the water kind of slows down from a 603 00:33:58,290 --> 00:34:02,930 raging boil down to just lukewarm and you start all over 604 00:34:02,930 --> 00:34:05,250 again. That's what you call and limited 605 00:34:05,250 --> 00:34:08,610 hangout. And we have to ask ourself, has 606 00:34:08,730 --> 00:34:11,449 David Gresh been used as a limited hangout? 607 00:34:12,130 --> 00:34:14,409 Until next time, this is UFO Warning Over now.