Hello and welcome to the program You have on Warning.
In this episode, we ask, has the deep personing of David Gresch
begun? Yes, that's correct.
Has the deep personing of David Gresch begun?
Now, if you've been watching the news lately, there's been talk
about whistleblower David Gresch having his medical records
released by someone within the intelligence community.
That was the accusation or implication by Ross Coulter.
It looks like it might be not quite that simple.
It seems The Intercept has recently produced article
talking about one, possibly two mental health crisises that
David Gress suffered and instead of just treating this as a
medical emergency. And that's how I see this is not
as some horrible thing. It appears to me at least, that
this guy is really just being attacked.
It looks a awful lot like so much of the deep personing that
we have seen happen to UFO whistleblowers in the past.
We're going to take a look at a couple articles today and the
definition of what is a limited hangout.
So hang on. You know, this story really is
kind of darker on the edges. I think it we have.
This guy's come forward to Congress.
He's made a lot of allegations about things he says were said
to him. David Grass garnered a lot of
attention. And then we had two stories
break the last couple days. One, and once Ross Colter was
saying, hey, his medical records have been leaked.
And then this most recent article by the Intercept saying,
no, these aren't medical release medical records released.
These are simply documents that we obtained from the local
Sheriff's Office through a FOIA request.
And we'll get into it. And then the whole thing leads
us to the question of is this just an unfortunate episode in
this poor man's life or was he targeted by the deep state to
create a limited hangout? And we'll get into what a
limited hangout is and how it plays in just a minute.
But first I want to look at this article from dailymail dot Co
dot UK. It says UFO whistleblower claims
the government is trying to leak his medical records in an effort
to smear his credibility after his testimony was slammed by
head of Pentagon office as insulting.
And the subtitle says the US intelligence community has been
accused of trying to discredit a UFO whistleblower by revealing
his mental health issue. David Grush delivered bombshell
testimony last month in Congress about alleged government UFO
programs. Investigative journalist Ross
Coulter says a news outlet was given his medical records and
the source could only be the intelligence community.
This article is written by Will Potter for dailymail.com.
Now this was released yesterday, August 9th, 2023.
A UFO whistleblower who delivered bombshell conditional
testimony last month has sensationally claimed the
government is trying to leak his medical record to destroy his
credibility. David Grush, a former
high-ranking intelligence official, revealed to lawmakers
details about a secret government program to retrieve
non human technology. But after his testimony captured
headlines about the alleged covert operation, he claims The
Intercept informed him it planned to publish an article
about his past struggles with mental health and PTSD.
Wow, I'll read that again. But after his testimony captured
headlines about the alleged covert operation, he claims The
Intercept informed him it planned to publish an article
about his past struggles with mental health and PTSD.
You know, I guess this is what you can expect if you take on
the deep state. Maybe this is maybe this is the
the soft power as opposed to the hard power, it says.
Local sheriff's allegedly denied being the source of the league,
leading investigative journalist Ross Coulter to conclude the
only possible source of information going to be the
intelligence community. Now we're going to get into this
because this sounds not correct to me and you can make up your
own mind. I'm going to put the links to
both these articles at the Buy Me a Coffee website.
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Now. Anyway, it goes on here.
It says. Gresh made several sensational
claims as he appeared before Congress in July, including
suggesting the government had killed people to cover up its
operations and that the US had been in position of UFO since
the 1930s. I'll say it again, you know,
that's what the code name for that is wet weather.
And that's the one, you know, when I was doing a little bit of
YouTube stuff, which really didn't work out too much for me,
I put that video up about wet weather and man, I got a nasty
letter about nasty response from YouTube.
It really seemed to hit a nerve with those guys.
I don't know, you know, you can find all kinds of crazy stuff on
there. But if you talk about wet
weather and people being killed over being UFO, whistleblowers
didn't name any names, just when there was some articles.
But man, that put a fire under somebody anyway, he says.
He was among three military whistleblowers who testified
under oath in July that they had first hand encounters knowledge
about secret government programs involving technology that is not
human. His remarks were condemned,
however, by the head of the Pentagon UFO office, Sean
Kirkpatrick, who slammed Russia's claims.
Is insulting and we talked about that.
I just think that's unprofessional, the way that
this memo was leaked on. I think it was on leaked
LinkedIn or something, and then somebody posted it to social
media. Some anonymous person just
seemed like a real sketchy way to handle that situation, I
thought. My opinion.
Gresch now believes the backlash to his testimony from officials
has extended further, with the alleged articles released
reportedly said to publicize his PTS, grief and depression
struggles. But Coltart, who previously
interviewed Gresch, said the information about the
intelligence officials personal issues should never have been
available. This is a document that if the
media had done the right thing, would be in police, would be in
his Police Department file in the County Sheriff's Office, he
told News Nation. Well, that's exactly where they
got it from. We'll find that out here in a
minute, he said. Gresch assumed the journalist
who obtained the falls sourced him through the Sheriff's
Office, but claims they confirmed the leak did not come
from them. That that's where it gets
sketchy. The only other place that had
this information is the intelligence community.
The intelligence community leaked that, he said.
Now he's making an assumption and you got to be careful
because we're talking, the stakes here are high, so we need
to be careful with this stuff. The Intercept has been contacted
for comment over the alleged leak.
And then it goes on, it says. Colthart added when he sat down
with Gresch, he admitted to his past mental health issues, which
were never deemed bad enough for intelligence officials to remove
a security clearance. That's correct.
When I asked him whether there was any dirt that anybody could
drag out to the discredit him, he barely thought it was worth
mentioning. But he acknowledged that he'd
suffer from PTSD when he returned from from Afghanistan,
Culture said. The intelligence community and
the Defense Department clearly accepted that there was no issue
because he was allowed to keep his security clearance.
David served his country honorably and with distinction.
He's a decorated officer. Grust explained his mental
health issues in a statement regarding the potential article,
saying his struggles when he returned from Afghanistan were
worsened by the loss of a close friend.
Quote. I was personally affected again
years later when a close friend of mine and intelligence officer
who was serving in the Air Force Special Operations Command at
the time, took his own life shortly after we last spoke,
Rush said. Wow, that must have been tough,
quote. I'm proud to be transparent on
this manner and I'm glad I got the help I needed to continue my
intelligence career. It really bothers me that
they're coming out, you know, really attacking this guy in a
situation, trying to attack his credibility because of this
issue, this health issue, mental health issue that he's, that he
has had to deal with anyway. It goes on and says for anyone
to seek use, for anyone to seek to use the suffering of
veterans, people who are dealing with PTSD is utterly
reprehensible. It's it's contemptible and it
should be expected, Coulter said.
Wow. There should be an investigation
into how a sensitive thought like this was so obviously
leaked within the intelligence community to try and discredit a
good human being. And then it says.
In July, Gresch was among three people who testified before
Congress with intimate details of the US government's efforts
to allegedly conceal UFO activity.
At one point during the first of its kind hearing, he even
appeared to suggest the government had killed people to
keep its program a secret. Representative Tim Burchard,
Republican Tennessee, asked Gross.
Personally, have you heard anyone has been murdered?
To which Grouse said. I have to be careful answering
that question. I directed people with that
knowledge to the appropriate authorities.
Scary stuff. Gross also claimed he had been
told by multiple credible intelligence officials of the US
government had recovered non human aircraft that had
biological pilots inside them. The effort to retrieve the
allegedly alien craft also saw multiple colleagues of his
injured by the UFOs. We've talked about this
extensively and about Doctor Gary Nolan studying that out
there at Berkeley. He was sworn in along with Ryan
Graves and esteemed former pilot and Navy fighter pilot Commander
David Fraver, who witnessed the emphasis 2000 infamous 2004 Tic
Tac UFO. The story saw Graves and several
other military officers claimed to encounter a large smooth
object during a retreat during a routine training exercise.
Speaking about the the notorious incident last month, he said the
craft was far superior to anything that we had at the time
have today or looking to develop in the next 10 years.
Favor described the Tic Tac object as being perfectly white,
smooth, and had no windows, with two little objects that came out
of the bottom. It was amazing to see.
I told my buddy I wanted to fly it, Fraber said during the first
of its kind hearing. I'm not like a UFO fanatic,
that's not me. But I will tell you that what we
saw with four sets of eyes over 5 minutes, still there's
nothing. We have nothing close to what he
said. It's just an incredible
technology. When Fraber was asked if he knew
of any similar technology on Earth, he responded Nothing that
we can come, nothing that can come down from space, hang out
for three hours and then go and then go back up.
So you kind of see a little bit of difference in the way these
guys are being treated. You've got Graves and Flavor who
simply claim to see the UFO. Now they've kind of been, I
wouldn't say ignored, but just kind of put off to the side a
little bit. But then this guy Grush comes
out and he's making all kinds of accusations about where the
bodies are buried, alien bodies, that is, that ships have been
recovered and now we see some really kind of, I know, almost
seems like dark tactics happening.
We have to ask ourself, is he simply just said, I mean is
everything he said true? Take it, take it at face value.
And now this guy's just being crucified because he has had a
mental health crisis apparently. Or did they pick him in the 1st
place to kind of feed the stuff along with him, knowing that he
was predisposed to this, knowing that you know, this was in
there, that they could somehow down the road after he made all
these revelations, tear him down like a straw man So that what
they're actually what they're doing is they're creating
limited hangout. If we go to Wikipedia, it says a
limited hangout or partial hangout is, according to Spatial
Assistant to the Deputy Director of the Central Intelligence
Agency, Victor Marchetti. Quote spy jargon for a favored
and frequently used gimmick of the clandestine professionals.
When their veil of secrecy is shredded and they could no
longer rely on a phony cover story to misinform the public,
they resort to admitting, sometimes even volunteering,
some of the truth while still managing to withhold the key and
damaging facts in the case. The public, however, is usually
so intrigued by the new information that it never thinks
to pursue the matter further. So could it be that David Gresh
is simply a victim where they fed him probably some stuff that
was true, maybe a little bit of stuff that wasn't true.
But knowing that he had this going on in his life, that they
could bring this up later on? I don't know.
It seems like they just maybe have let this, all this talk
that he's brought to the surface come forward to kind of let the
steam off of things a little bit.
And then when it's gotten too far or too many questions have
been asked or too many Congress people are involved, then they
look for a way to discredit and deperson this guy.
And it seems like that could be what's happening here.
Maybe this mental health crisis that he experienced provided
them with that perfect opportunity.
Really, really just kind of shows you the level of hardball
that we're dealing with here. Now I'll take a look at this
article from The Intercept, and I'm going to post this on the
Buy Me Coffee website. And about halfway through, the
article actually shows you the four requests and the response
that they got from this Loudon County Sheriff's Office.
Now what happened was there apparently was a situation at
this house that Gresh used to live in.
So and the the the report here says from the officer, I'll just
read through it real quick and then we'll go through the
article. It says at approx No.
They get the address but it doesn't get the Gresh's name.
On 10/1/18 at approximately 1851 hours I was dispatched to 15624
Avebury Manor Place in reference to a suicide threat on.
Upon arrival I met with Blank. She advised that her husband
Blank had made a suicidal statement to her today.
So I'll go ahead and I'll read this report here from the
deputy. This is Loudon County Sheriff
request and if this is redacted it gives the address and the
date and and as I said this this article reports that this was a
house that Gresch used to own him and his wife.
Anyway, it says on 1/1/18 at approximately 1851 hours.
I was dispatched to 15624 Avebury Manor Place in reference
to a suicide threat. Upon arrival, I met with Blank.
She advised that her husband Blank had made a suicidal
statement to her today. She went on to say that earlier
this evening she saw that Blank was drunk.
She told him that he was an alcoholic and that he needed to
get help. He replied, quote, I've just
been waiting for you to kill me. UN quote.
I advised her that I needed more than that in order to take him
into custody under an ECEO. Sergeant Salameda attempted to
call him with no success. I went to his house and knocked
on the door, but he did not answer the door.
The process for obtaining an echo was explained to her and
she decided to get that magistrate to issue me an echo
at 20-30 hours. Magistrate Waller issued an echo
for blank. I responded back to the house at
2145 hours and placed him in custody under the Echo and I
transported him to Cornwall ER where Ashley from mental health
interviewed him. After speaking with him,
actually determined that she was going to have the magistrate
issue ATDO for him. That means you're putting him in
the psych word at three at O 315 hours.
I executed the TDO and transported him upstate to
Lamps. No further case closed.
So it looks like this person, whoever it was their wife,
called into the Sheriff's Office and said he's suicidal.
The deputy shows up and says, well, I don't have enough
evidence of that, I just can't take him into a psych ward, you
know, like that. So she went and filed A
complaint with the magistrate. I don't know about here in
Lowland County but most states you've got to show that the
person is a danger to themselves or others to get him committed
lot harder in some states than others.
But usually it takes a couple people real old as friends,
whatever they're very close to the person or a professional to
say I hey I heard this person make suicidal threats or
homicidal threats and then you can do something or else if
they're just you know, really out of it.
But but look at look at all the mentally ill people that are
wandering our streets today as homeless victims and and if they
don't want to get help and then that's head of mind.
A lot of times they can't. They're just not forced into
treatment. So this this sounds a little,
wow a little tough to me. This poor guy he's got PTSD.
And if this is the case and it's you know there's a situation at
home, it's a domestic situation, doesn't say anything about any
kind of violence. Just she's says that he's that
he made a comment about hey, I'm waiting for you to kill me and I
said not to get him locked up. Anyway, to me that's like a
personal thing. Why they're throwing at this
this at this guy After the hearings, it just seems so
sketchy now. This article is from
theintercept.com. It says UFO whistleblower kept
secret, kept security clearance after psychiatric detention.
The star witness of the Congress's UFO hearing, David
Grush retained his clearance despite alleged substance abuse
issues. For your documents review
Written by Clin Klipenstein. The sad thing about this article
is it it plays into so many misconceptions and biases about
mental illness. And you know, mental illness can
come in a ton of different forms on a scale from easily treatable
to real bad news. And just to say this guy had an
episode like this, he had a mental health episode.
He ends up in a in a in a mental psych ward or something.
Sounds like maybe for a day or two.
Maybe he just needed some anti anxiety medication or something.
I don't know, but to say that he should be precluded from having
his national security clearance seems kind of tough to me.
Since non human biological material recover from reported
UFO crashes. A decades long secret program to
reverse engineer extraterrestrial craft.
A government cover up employing administrative terrorism to
silence truth tellers. These are some of the
extraordinary claims made to Congress by Major by Major David
Grush, a 36 year old retired Air Force intelligence officer who
also served as an advisor to the Pentagon's unidentified aerial
phenomena task force. Last month, the House Oversight
Committee opened an investigation after Gresh
claimed he was retaliated against for blowing the whistle
on the US government's alleged UAP recovery program.
Security clearances of the sort Gresh has held are subject to.
Strict requirements, including the regarding psychological
episodes and substance abuses. Grusch has used his high level
clearance to shore up his credibility, telling the
committee I was cleared to literally all relevant
compartments in a position of extreme trust in both my
military and civilian capacities.
At this point in the article, I'm getting the feeling of this
is kind of a hit piece, I have to tell you.
But police records obtained by The Intercept under the Virginia
Freedom of Information Act revealed that October 1st, 2018,
Gresch was committed to a mental health facility based in part on
a report that he made a suicidal statement after Gresch's wife
told him he was an alcoholic and suggested that he get help Okay.
I have to disagree with that. I think that that's just not
correct. It says right there in the
sheriff's statement that the, the, the, the law enforcement
officer went there, Okay, he talked to the wife and someone.
This is Gresch's wife. And she told him what he said
about I've been waiting for you to kill me.
So that's the statement that these guys had access to.
I don't know what Gresch said to that mental health provider once
he was in the ER. Maybe he said something, maybe
he didn't. But let's be clear about that.
The reason that he went, the reason that he was committed to
a mental health facility, was that after law enforcement
responded to the wife's claim, she went to the magistrate and
got an order to have him evaluated.
So maybe she told the magistrate something different than that.
I don't know. But we don't know that because
apparently it's still sealed. I guess.
I don't know. And then after he was evaluated
then the mental health worker apparently made a decision that
he needed to stay a couple nights or a night or what
however long it was in this mental health facility for
evaluation. So they're making a leap there
did and to say it was suicidal. Do we know a suicidal maybe that
could. I'm not saying this is the case
but the the comment that I've been waiting for you to kill me,
that could be made by somebody who was afraid that their mate
was actually going to kill him. So this author here I think has
made a leap that that he doesn't he's not justified in making it
goes on and says quote a husband asks complaint and to kill him.
No that's not what it says. That's not that's not what it
says inherit in a report it says, he replied I've just been
waiting for you to kill me. So you do you see how they're
twisting the words here? It's like it's like this.
It's like the writer's articles trying to deperson this guy.
I I just, I find this kind of kind of disgusting in a way.
If you've known, had loved ones who've had mental health issues,
a little bit of understanding can go a long way.
So for them just to just to sit here and just and just smash on
this guy like this, I just think it's terrible.
He goes on, as his husband asked complaining to kill him.
I'm not seeing that in the complaint.
A police report produced by Loudon County and shower states
he is very angry. Guns are locked up now.
That's what she told the cops. Okay.
That's what it says here, she went on to say.
And she went on to say that earlier this evening she saw
that Blank was drunk. She told him that he was an
alcoholic and that he needed to get help.
He replied. I've just been waiting for you
to kill me. I advised her that I needed more
than that. That's a cop telling her I can't
arrest him in order to take him into custody under an ECO.
Sergeant Salamita attempted to call him with no success.
I went to his house and knocked on the door, but he did not
answer the door. The process for obtaining an
Echo was explained to her and she decided to get the
magistrate to issue an Echo. So the cop goes there and he
says I can't arrest this guy. I can't take this guy into the
psych or I don't. You have to have a court order
for that. You just can't go pick somebody
up. If that cop thought that this
guy was a clear and present danger to himself or others,
believe me, they could have gotten that house.
But it says here that they attempted to call him with no
success. I went to the house and knocked
on the door, but he did not answer the door.
So the police officer didn't even have any contact with this
guy until after he got the court order from the magistrate.
Okay and there's comments he did.
This is from the cops. He did not make suicidal
threats. He is an alcoholic.
She told him that he needed to get some help.
He said, I've just been waiting for you to kill me.
That's in the summary here. So the cop looks at the
situation. He's like, well, it's a husband
and wife. They're having a fight.
You know, he's not, obviously he's not a threat to kill
himself. Like immediately, he tells her,
if you're really worried about this, you need to go talk to it.
You need to go file a request with with the judge, and that's
what you do when you want to get somebody involuntarily
committed. You have to go to magistrate.
You take in a couple of of you just they could be handwritten
letters from the people that usually the family members or
loved ones explain to the judge. I heard this person say at this
time they wanted to kill themselves.
They wanted to kill somebody else or this person has done
this or that to and then the judge has to decide.
The judge decides. I don't know about Virginia, but
in at least my state that then the judge makes a decision, is
this person the danger to himself or others?
And if he decides that, yeah, they are, then they can send
them to a hospital or whatever. They usually they'll be like a
preliminary observation by psychiatrists.
And then that psychiatrist will make the determination whether
or not to send the person off to like a psychiatric hospital.
So they kind of they they go through a process first to a
judge, then to like a hospital's ER setting where they're
examined by a psychiatrist and then on to a psychiatric
hospital if that's needed. There's a process you have to go
through and they're making it seem like this guy was just, you
know, like like he was in a complete psychotic break.
And I'm not seeing that. I'm just seeing a guy who maybe
was intoxicated who made a comment to his wife that the The
Intercept is, is perceiving as suicidal.
Now what he said and that we're not told about, I don't know.
But something must have been said, because at any rate, he
ends up getting committed Okay and apparently tweeted for this
thing and carries on. That goes on, since Gresch did
not respond to requests for comment, e-mail via his lawyer
or to a voicemail on his phone. But on Tuesday evening, Ross
Coulter, an Australian independent journalist who
covers UFOs and has interviewed Gresch, posted a statement
attributed Gresch, on X, the platform formerly known as
Twitter Quote. It has come to my attention that
The Intercept intends to publish an article about two instances
in 2014 and 2018 that highlights previous struggle personal
struggles I have with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder,
grief, and depression, the statement reads.
As I stated under oath in my congressional testimony over
credentialed intelligence and military personnel provided
myself and my colleagues information.
I transmitted the Intelligence Community Inspector General and
I took the leadership role to represent the concerns of
distinguishing patriotic individuals.
Gresch's wife, Jessica Gresch, did not respond to several
requests for comment. That poor lady, a former
colleague of Gresch, expressed shock that he retained his
clearance after the 2014 incident, which was also
documented in public records obtained by The Intercept.
Quote I think it's like any Instore group, once you're in,
they generally protect their own, said the former colleague,
who asked not to be named because they feared professional
reprisals. The former colleague said that
the 2014 incident was known to agression superiors to claim
that Coulter appeared to confirm in an interview on News Nation,
a subscription television network owned by Next to Our
Media. Wow.
The intelligence community and the Defense Department clearly
accepted there was no issue because he was allowed to keep
his security clearance. On the evening of October 1st,
2018, wife's Gresch's wife contacted the Lonnie Cobbs
Sheriff's Office to report that Gresch was drunk and suicidal.
According to the report, she told him that he was an
alcoholic and that he needed to get help, according to a
narrative account from the Sheriff's Office.
He replied. I've just been waiting for you
to kill me. Yeah, so it goes through this a
little bit here says. Though the names were redacted,
the document described as husband and wife at a home that
Grush and his wife owned at the time.
According to Loudon County records, the property has since
been sold. The incident report also
describes the subject as Air Force International Guard and
previously active duty Air Force.
Grush served in the Air Force and the Air National Guard.
The man could be violent and very strong.
The man could be violent, comma, very strong, the report notes,
adding that he might be suffering from PTSD sometimes
makes these threats when drunk, the report continues.
He has never harmed himself. OK, well, let's just be let's be
clear. In the report, we see that the
deputy hadn't even talked to the guy.
So this is all coming from, I don't know, the guy's wife that
called in or whoever was there. This is all secondhand stuff.
The Narrative case report describes law enforcement
officers detaining Gresham under an emergency custody order and
taking him to a local emergency room, where a mental health
specialist decided to ask a magistrate to issue a temporary
detention order based on the order.
An officer transferred Gres to Loudon Adult Medical Psychiatric
Services in an inpatient program in the end of a Loudon Cornwall
Medical Campus in Leesburg. Well, they're kind of leaving
out a couple steps there, and that is that the police officer
explained to the wife at the scene that he couldn't take the
guy in based on what he saw, that she had to go get a court
order, which she did. And even then the judge didn't
commit him. The judge sent him in to be
examined at, you know, at the hospital by psychiatrist, I
suppose, or mental health worker, who then decided to send
him to Enova loud. And so we don't know what all is
going on there, it says. A separate police report dated
October 13th, 2014 describes a similar incident, A 27 year old
male threatening suicide at a property that the county of
records show was owned at the time by Grouch and his exwife,
Kenda McMurray. That property has been sold.
The report notes that he is violent and has access to a
weapon. McMurray did not respond to
multiple requests for comment. Now they're not showing that
report here. Wow.
Two Republican members of the House Oversight Committee
represented, Annapolina Luna and Tim Burchard, were asked with
organizing the July 26th hearing after Gretchen's whistleblower
claims became public. Not all House Republicans are
supportive of the effort. And then it just kind of goes on
to talk about this Representative Turner, who says
he doesn't believe any of it. This this article to me is
pretty clearly directed against Gresh.
It talks a little bit about culture, comparing him to to
Daniel Ellsberg. You know, this is a big side
track to me. We've got this guy, you know, a
veteran, he comes forward with these whistleblower allegations.
He says that he's got a bunch of more names he can name.
He's been in the. He's he's kind of become the
focus of this whole UFOA question about whether or not
the deep says hiding stuff. Now all they have to do is put
David Gresh picture front and center and destroy this guy,
deep person him. And then what they've done is
they've allowed a a vehicle for all of the debunkers and the
people who are afraid to afraid to face reality here to say,
well, look, this UFO stuff, it's all a bunch of nonsense.
Look, the guy that brought it up, he's crazy, he's suicidal,
he's an alcoholic and say all these nasty things about this
guy and that what that does is it allows the people that could
have created this whole situation, It allows them to
sure bring forward all of the UFO information in generalities.
Talk about it. Let the people on the one, the
one side of the issue that actually believe that UF O's are
real. Let them think that, well, maybe
there'll be some disclosure. Maybe people are finally
recognizing this stuff, You know, let them feel recognized
for what they see as real. Let a little steam out of the
kettle. And then right when it gets to a
crescendo where this guy has his big meeting, that the big
hearings, he makes these revelations, but he doesn't
actually come out and name names or give the locations of where
the craft or the bodies are at. But he does imply all the stuff.
So let him do that. Let him get it all out there
while we hide the real facts. And then right when it looks
like maybe he's going to start naming names, then you bring up
this mental health crisis, these two crisises from 14 and 18, and
you just blast the guy. And when you do that, then you
try to destroy his character as a witness.
All of a sudden, all this talk about David Gresh, whistleblower
becomes David Gresh, mental patient.
And the whole thing just kind of just kind of cools back down.
You you turn the stove off, the water kind of slows down from a
raging boil down to just lukewarm and you start all over
again. That's what you call and limited
hangout. And we have to ask ourself, has
David Gresh been used as a limited hangout?
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