1 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,360 Hello, and welcome to the program UFO Warning. 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,640 In this episode, we're asking are alien mummies real? 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,280 That's correct. Are alien mummies real? 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:15,080 Now, of course, we're talking about the ones that Jamie Malson 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,000 has down there in Mexico, has been showing around at the 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,120 Congress, and we're asking the question, are these things real 7 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,080 or are they fakes? Now, I've been pretty skeptical 8 00:00:22,080 --> 00:00:24,600 myself. Listener's been asking for some 9 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,160 time and I talk about it on the program and I've kind of just, I 10 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,600 put it off because I didn't want to upset people that actually 11 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,600 believe these things are real. And I wasn't really sure it was 12 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,800 worth the time to look at. But it's gotten so much press 13 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,920 recently that I thought, well, why not just go ahead and 14 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,440 present, you know, as much as I can, both sides of the story. 15 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,120 The first article that we have comes here from the New York 16 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,640 Post. It says DNA from non human alien 17 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:52,280 corpses is from Unknown Species Analyst claim written by Melissa 18 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:56,440 Cohen Konig. It says December 1st, 2023. 19 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,480 And it began by saying the mystery of the nonhuman 20 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,480 mummified remains found in Peru deepened this week when an 21 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:07,440 analyst claimed that 30% of its DNA is not human but is rather 22 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:11,080 an unknown species. Controversial journalist and UFO 23 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:16,680 enthusiast Jose Jamie Malson ushered in a team of scientists 24 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,920 who performed adna analysis of remains that found 30% of 25 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,600 genetic material is not from any known species. 26 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:26,800 And I have to warn you, there's been questions about this 27 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,840 because we don't really seem to have confirmation from other 28 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,120 independent laboratories. So when we're testing this 29 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:38,280 stuff, honestly, if you, if you want to convince people that 30 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,680 this stuff is real, you have to let more than one person look at 31 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,640 it. And you really can't just sit 32 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,120 there and control every single laboratory, Every single person 33 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,720 has access to these things. Yes, I know you run the risk 34 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,920 that if you send samples off to some major university or some 35 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,400 independent lab that the samples are going to disappear, that 36 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,760 they're going to automatically debunk what, whatever you're 37 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:04,080 trying to say. But it seems like you have to at 38 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,840 least give other people a chance to look at this thing. 39 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,039 That's just my opinion. I'll get off my soapbox. 40 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,240 Mexican researchers who appeared beside him as he testified 41 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,200 before the nation's Congress also claimed the figures were 42 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,840 authentic compromising of just a single skeleton, according to US 43 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,560 Daily Star. That's another thing. 44 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,480 They've X-rayed these things. I don't see joints anywhere as 45 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,160 far as like in the elbows or the knees. 46 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:26,840 So how do these things even move? 47 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,440 Very strange. Well it remains unclear what the 48 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,800 other 70% of the so-called aliens DNA matched up with. 49 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,000 Now some argued that the DNA analysis confirmed the mummies 50 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,120 are definitely not human. Well, I think what he means to 51 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,200 say is they're definitely not totally human. 52 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:45,600 If they're telling us that 30% of the DNA is human, then we 53 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,200 need to know what the other 70% is. 54 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,000 And if they can't tell us, then just tell us that this is the 55 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,840 first time extraterrestrial life has been presented in this 56 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,520 manner, he said in a transcript of the hearing obtained by The 57 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,120 Daily Star. We have a clear example of non 58 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,760 human specimens unrelated to any known specimens on our planet. 59 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,880 These specimens do not belong to our terrestrial evolution, he 60 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:07,840 continued. They were not creatures 61 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,880 discovered by UFO crash. Instead they were found in a 62 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:15,240 diatom mines and later transfer transformed into fossilized 63 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:16,960 mummies. So I guess what he's trying to 64 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,440 say is that he has some kind of information somehow. 65 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,880 He knows that these things were human alien hybrids. 66 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,920 I suppose maybe he's basing that on the fact that he's saying 30% 67 00:03:26,920 --> 00:03:30,160 of the DNA came back human. Malson went on to argue that the 68 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:34,440 public has a right to know about non human technology and beings. 69 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,480 This reality unites humans rather than dividing us. 70 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,040 He said. We are not alone in this 71 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:41,920 universe. We should embrace this truth. 72 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,120 The alien enthusiast had earlier presented the Nixon Congress 73 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:49,120 lower chamber with photographs and X-rays, he and doctor Daniel 74 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:54,120 Mendoza said prove the estimate. The specimens do not have lungs 75 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,080 or ribs. Their real anthropologist, Roger 76 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:01,360 Zuniga of San Luis Gonzaga National University, Inca Peru, 77 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:05,440 said the specimens in his testimony last month. 78 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:10,280 There was absolutely no human intervention in the physical and 79 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,640 biological formation of these beings, he added, saying he 80 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,480 didn't know the origin of the beings. 81 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,959 So you're taking the big step there because you don't have a 82 00:04:18,959 --> 00:04:21,360 chain of custody. So also presented a letter 83 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,160 signed by 11 researchers from the university testifying the 84 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,560 same conclusion, though they clarified that they were not 85 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,120 implying the bodies were definitely aliens. 86 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,400 They also presented similar claims in Peru in 2017, but a 87 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,640 report by the country's prosecutor's office found that 88 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:40,000 the alien corpses were actually recently manufactured dolls, 89 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,240 which have been covered with a mixture of paper and synthetic 90 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,920 glue to simulate the presence of skin. 91 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,480 So telling you, this guy's done this before and they've already 92 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,720 been proven to be false. Yet many have expressed 93 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,120 skepticism about the veracity of the origins of the mummified 94 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,440 figures due to their uncanny resemblance to Steven 95 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,840 Spielberg's ET and Alien, also with three figures. 96 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,040 These things do look like ET. And then it goes on talks a 97 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,160 little bit about some of the comments people have made about 98 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,960 that. Yeah, I don't know, it just 99 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,640 there's a lot of red flags here. There's another article in the 100 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,600 Hindustan Times that says Mexico's alien mummies are 101 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,720 unknown. Species experts put forth 102 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,600 shocking claims and raise new questions. 103 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,800 Beautiful all just testifies to the authenticity of Peruvian 104 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,240 mummies with three fingers claiming they are not humans. 105 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,000 It's got a picture of these things here. 106 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:35,200 Like I said, no elbows, no knees, no joints in these 107 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:36,400 things. How could they even move? 108 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:41,160 That's why I don't understand. How do they even biologically 109 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,240 work? Two months after two nonhuman 110 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,720 quote UN quote, mummies were showcased to the world with 111 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,520 claims that they may be extraterrestrial. 112 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,840 Now they're now experts have put forth proof to suggest that 113 00:05:52,840 --> 00:05:57,040 those corpses were not fake and could be non human. 114 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,280 In September this year, the official unveiling of the alien 115 00:06:00,280 --> 00:06:04,600 bodies was carried out by Ufologist Jamie Malson in new in 116 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,400 Mexico City's Congress, where it was ascertained that the small 117 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:12,600 magnified specimen were 1000 years old and had been retrieved 118 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,560 from Cusco, Peru. And they're making a lot of 119 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,040 transportations and assumptions here that I'm just not sure how 120 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,560 they got to that point. Now, in another hearing held by 121 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,600 Mexico's Congress, Mausam has testified to the ethnicity of 122 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,320 the Peruvian mummies with three fingers, claiming the two 123 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,640 corpses could be evidence of a non human life forms. 124 00:06:30,840 --> 00:06:34,480 However, he hesitated to confirm whether these remains were 125 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:38,000 indeed from aliens. Well, I tell you, you look at 126 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,720 the things and to me it's one of two things. 127 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,760 Either they're alien life forms or they're fake. 128 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:48,360 Now they're saying 30%, 30% human. 129 00:06:49,280 --> 00:06:52,320 I'm not even really seeing any human traits in here. 130 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,320 So how these things would have bred with humans, Whether this 131 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:01,880 was some sort of alien human hybrid that was just put here by 132 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:08,000 a different alien, you know, group or whatever, I just don't 133 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,120 know. But they do look, they do look 134 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,760 strange. They have been in the news. 135 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:13,800 Now I want to go ahead and look at another article here that has 136 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,680 it's a little bit more critical, I guess you could say ask a few 137 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,360 more questions, but I think it's important that we approach this 138 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,520 stuff with an open mind, but that we're also asked the common 139 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,240 sense questions that need to be asked. 140 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,000 This is from box.com. It says the true story of the 141 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:32,320 fake unbox aliens is Wilder than actual aliens Written by Aja 142 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,640 Romano, it says all the greed fraud centers are racism and 143 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,800 deteriorated llama skulls behind Mexico's unboxed aliens. 144 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:44,520 We go down to the article a little bit and says, but what 145 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,880 happens when such pursuits of wonder collide with shameless 146 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,080 opportunism and a willingness to exploit errors of 147 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,640 misinformation, even if it means disrespecting and distorting the 148 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,560 past? These are the questions were 149 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:58,000 driven to ask in light of two recently unboxed 1000 year old 150 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:02,280 aliens revealed to the world by a crew of conspiracists with a 151 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:06,120 history of trying and failing to make 1000 year old aliens 152 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,480 happen. You know, I'm not sure if 153 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,760 they're conspiracists, if they're genuine or they're 154 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,760 hoaxers, you know, But to throw in the word conspiracies does 155 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,840 not necessarily help the article, in my opinion. 156 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,880 The Mexican Congress is holding a hearing on the existence of 157 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,240 unidentified anonymous phenomena on Wednesday, September 13th, 158 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,360 when the alleged Peruvian aliens were hand delivered in a 159 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,000 dramatic coffin like box. In other words, it sounds like 160 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,960 they just took over the hearing. I mean, and that's the danger of 161 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,360 this sort of stuff. It can end up being just such a 162 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:38,720 show stopper that it it it just drives this whole hearing off 163 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,559 into a parallel narrative. Well, maybe we should we should 164 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,560 be talking about some of the UFO crash recoveries that have 165 00:08:44,560 --> 00:08:48,280 happened in Mexico where they've lost, you know, where they've 166 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,920 lost possession of these UFOs and they've ended up in a 167 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,360 private contractors basement somewhere in the US. 168 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,440 That might be more the more important questions than what 169 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,920 we're looking at here. The Mexican Congress was holding 170 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:02,720 a hearing on the existence of UAP on Wednesday when the 171 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,480 alleged proven aliens were hand delivered. 172 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,160 Then it goes on and says they'll ask for the truthers. 173 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,200 These skeletons are not alien life forms. 174 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,120 Instead they are most likely a composite of pre Columbian human 175 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,760 remains and animal bones all pieced together with some 176 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,000 plaster. Now, I'm not sure I I have to 177 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,920 disagree with them there because we look at the X-rays. 178 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,080 If they're fake, to me they've almost like been poured in the 179 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,480 form or something, you know, just because they're all in one 180 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,400 piece. So I don't see, I don't see it 181 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,720 as something that's been, you know, wired together or glued 182 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,040 together or whatnot. And then it goes on and says, 183 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,520 but how they aren't real as a story that's frankly Wilder than 184 00:09:40,560 --> 00:09:42,800 aliens. In fact, these little guys 185 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,160 appear to have been literally crowdfunded into existence in 186 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,480 2017 as part of an ongoing attempt to create the illusion 187 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,520 that these hucksters are sitting on an ancient alien gold mine. 188 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,920 And that's just the tip of the alien scam iceberg. 189 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,520 The full picture includes a long lineup of scabie con men 190 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,600 dedicated to passing themselves off as pseudo scientific experts 191 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,840 for media veterans to fake archaeologists and doctors with 192 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,520 dubious degrees, all committed to insisting, even as a litany 193 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:15,280 of real scientists line up to eject, that they're fake aliens 194 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,120 are real. That's a lot to unpack alongside 195 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,360 these two dubious extraterrestrial, so let's take 196 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,560 a closer look. Well, you know, it's good. 197 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,680 It's a good living if you can make it, I suppose, just faking 198 00:10:26,680 --> 00:10:29,160 aliens and getting people to give you money on the Internet. 199 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,360 The origin story, I guess as long as you go to. 200 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,200 As long as you don't go to prison for fraud, huh? 201 00:10:34,680 --> 00:10:37,400 The origin story of these fake aliens that says, Yep, you heard 202 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,840 it right, The unboxed aliens that caught the world's 203 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:44,840 attention in 2023 were allegedly discovered in pieces in Peru in 204 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:49,520 2016 or 2017. They were purportedly found 205 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,480 among the burial grounds of the Nasca and subsequently dubbed 206 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,200 the Nasca mummies. The Nasca were just ancient 207 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,080 Peruvian people known for creating the beautiful geoglyph 208 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,080 designs known as the Nasca Lions. 209 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:06,320 So this is a problem. If they're if they are digging 210 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,560 this stuff out of ancient burial grounds from indigenous people, 211 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,760 that that's an issue, a big time issue. 212 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:17,320 In February 2017, a crowdfunding campaign for the Alien project 213 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,600 appeared. The project boasted its own 214 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,280 website and held sponsored press conferences on the NASCAR 215 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,920 mummies. It promised to determine through 216 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:31,800 extensive scientific analysis, mainly DNA and C-14, the origin 217 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:36,280 of the bodies and the mummified organs discovered in South Peru 218 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:40,440 in January 2016. Quote you can trust us, the the 219 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,680 crowdfunding campaign read. If it is an imposture or a fake, 220 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,600 we will be the first to denounce it. 221 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,760 The campaign, however, went on to smugly assure their 222 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,920 contributors if there is a fraud, we have not detected it 223 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,280 yet. The man behind the campaign, per 224 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:58,280 the Alien Project website, is a pseudoscientist named Theory 225 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:02,520 Jamin who builds himself as an archaeologist and says he's not. 226 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,120 He's also the purveyor of the fraudulent aliens. 227 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,560 The campaign refers to the exceptional quality of these 228 00:12:09,560 --> 00:12:12,560 figures. Dog sized skeleton molds of 229 00:12:12,560 --> 00:12:15,480 three fingered beings that seem to have been shamelessly 230 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:19,280 hodgepodge together from a real disarticulated human remains 231 00:12:19,560 --> 00:12:22,440 covered in white plaster and presented to the world as though 232 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,680 they were fully intact extraterrestrial beings that 233 00:12:25,680 --> 00:12:28,880 have been discovered in the in the Peruvian wilderness. 234 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:30,800 Like I said, they've shown X-rays. 235 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,480 They don't seem disarticulated. Maybe that's why they did that. 236 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,640 They just seem to be all one piece, whatever they are. 237 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,240 On this website, the Alien project credits the origin of 238 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:46,560 the mummies not to Germane, but to a man named Lewis Quespi, AKA 239 00:12:46,560 --> 00:12:50,680 Paul R Jimin describes Quespi only as the holder of an 240 00:12:50,680 --> 00:12:54,600 incredible secret, without elaboration, but says elsewhere 241 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,920 that he is their contact with grave robbers, implying that 242 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,680 Quespi is a kind of mummy runner. 243 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:06,520 That's disturbing. Yet in a 2017 blog post, the 244 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,120 popular ufologist John Greenwald claimed to have tracked Clippy 245 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,400 down and discovered that he was a YouTube known for making 246 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,440 videos of mummies that looked exactly like the NASCAR mummies. 247 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:21,080 In order to show viewers how such mummies could be created as 248 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,560 a hoax, Vox has reached out to Greenwald for verification. 249 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,320 I wouldn't describe John Greenwald as a UFO ologist. 250 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,960 And John Greenwald, he has his site where he just posts lots 251 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,760 and lots of material that he's gotten from the government 252 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,240 throughout through a FOIA request. 253 00:13:38,560 --> 00:13:42,760 So that that does throw a little bit of shade on the article that 254 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,880 they kind of put him in that light from the beginning. 255 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,000 Then it would seem that the perpetrators of his hoax were in 256 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,720 zero doubt about what they were doing. 257 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,840 Jameen and his team of experts were from a community of 258 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,640 ufologists and fraudsters with a long history of claiming fake 259 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,640 doctorates or degrees from discredited schools and other 260 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,240 sham credentials. Yet their alien investigation 261 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:11,240 somehow raised a $42,000 / 1000 contributors, and those 262 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,280 contributors arguably got their money's worth. 263 00:14:13,680 --> 00:14:16,240 Shamine's pursuit to convince people that aliens were real 264 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,760 evolved into an ongoing stunt that, despite the long and loud 265 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,440 protests of actual scientists, ultimately led his creations to 266 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,680 appear before the Mexican Congress. 267 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,600 Almost as soon as the alleged aliens became public, scientists 268 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,640 pushed back against the hoax, pointing out that the alien 269 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:37,040 remains appeared to be human. There again, I don't get they 270 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,040 don't look human to me at all. This mummy is an archaeological 271 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,000 mummy from which two fingers have been removed and the number 272 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,000 of flanges increased on the remaining three fingers, the 273 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:50,840 website Scientifics declared in July 2017 after consulting with 274 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,120 researchers. The thing is, people are making 275 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,600 statements on both sides of the fence here, I think, without 276 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,560 even having to examine these things, but just from the X-ray. 277 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,680 If the X-rays are correct, then these things aren't showing any 278 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,600 joints and they aren't showing that they're put together. 279 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,920 They're just showing, like, to me the most logical explanation 280 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:11,680 would be that they were just carved out of one piece of 281 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,080 material. Or maybe they were they maybe 282 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,680 this, you know, this body was poured into a mold like a like a 283 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,760 Styrofoam mold or something, and then it was just covered with 284 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,080 this plaster. If it's not a real alien. 285 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,800 But I don't see this as being like human bones somehow knit 286 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,760 together and covered in plaster concrete. 287 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,320 That's not what the X-ray showing at all. 288 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:33,920 So I don't know why they keep saying that. 289 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,560 Neither are the discoveries he's claimed make to make a name of 290 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,080 the pseudoscience, nor the UFO frauds he's champion, which 291 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:41,640 allegedly stretched back to the 1990s. 292 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,040 OK, I'm talking about Mouse in here. 293 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:48,040 He does have a checkered past. I think some of the things 294 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:49,800 they're claiming here that he did that were fraudulent, 295 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,400 presenting a strange being, dubbed the metapic creature, 296 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,480 which turned out to be a skinned monkey. 297 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:56,760 You know, they got a picture of it here. 298 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:00,720 It's just it ended up being like, like they said, a skinned 299 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,840 monkey that he's trying to pass off as an alien. 300 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,400 Or maybe he was suggesting that could be an alien. 301 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,720 I mean, he's like maintaining plausible deniability, but he's 302 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,840 still hauling this thing around all over the countryside, 303 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,880 showing it at UFO get togethers and on television and stuff. 304 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,320 It's just madding championing a hoax called the Roswell Slides 305 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:22,320 in 2015, which purported to show a photo of an alien body but 306 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,760 turned out to be that of a mummified 2 year old boy. 307 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,120 Several other people involved in this hoax would later attach 308 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,080 themselves to the Nazca mummy hoax. 309 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:34,000 So you're trying to pass off a mummy of a of a little boy from 310 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,440 an ancient grave site and not cool. 311 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,000 And I know the hoax. A claim he did was claiming to 312 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,160 have discovered a demon fairy. I remember this one. 313 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:42,160 You can see the picture of it here. 314 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,600 It looks like well, it looks like a little demon with wings 315 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,040 on the back. But it turns out it says 316 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,800 claiming to have discovered a demon fairy in 2016, which was 317 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,160 revealed, which was revealed to be some conglomeration of a bat, 318 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:57,800 wooden sticks, unseen epoxy and other items designed to deceive. 319 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,800 But not until after he sold it for $10,000. 320 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,680 Man it seems like a lot of work to go to for 10 grand. 321 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,760 Then it says gaining an entry on the UFO watchdog Hall of 322 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:13,440 Shameless for the repeated UFO related false claims and fraud 323 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:14,920 attempts. I remember some of these that 324 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,000 Mausam's done and that's why I just really question anything he 325 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,520 brings forward because so much of the stuff that he's brought 326 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,720 forward has turned out to be not what he suggested that it might 327 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,160 be. I don't think he's ever come out 328 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,599 and said, oh, this is definitely what this is. 329 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,520 But it seems like his stick is, this is just my opinion is that 330 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,480 he brings out these mummies or these skin monkeys or, you know, 331 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,720 the bat or whatever it is and you praise them around and they 332 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,560 get a lot of interest kind of built up. 333 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:43,920 And he never says this definitely is that. 334 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,480 He's like, hey, look what I found. 335 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,600 You know, I can't tell you where I got it from exactly. 336 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,640 It's from this guy. But that's not his real name. 337 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,720 We have this really blurry chain of custody and there's a lot of 338 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:59,160 big coverage of it on television and the Internet and this time 339 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:04,000 before the Mexican Congress. And he never says these are 340 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,360 definitely aliens, but he just puts that out there. 341 00:18:06,360 --> 00:18:08,320 He always gives himself plenty of room for plausible 342 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,480 deniability. But in the meantime, what he's 343 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:14,680 doing is he's jetting up a lot of publicity and he apparently 344 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,720 is generating some kind of income off of this. 345 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,280 That's what it looks like, at least in this case. 346 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,320 Here it says he sold this thing for $10,000. 347 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,320 Now if you sold it as is, I guess it's like selling a beat 348 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,240 up car. Yeah, I guess you don't know. 349 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,880 The transmission is going to fall out of the thing next week, 350 00:18:28,120 --> 00:18:30,280 but it has been making a lot of clunky noises. 351 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,520 Now, if you take that thing to a car dealer and trade it in, do 352 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,520 you have to tell him that? Well, maybe not. 353 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,880 But if you sell it to your neighbor, should you tell him 354 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:39,120 that? Well, you probably should. 355 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,640 And so The thing is, he's bringing out all of these 356 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:48,040 different artifacts and saying, well, I don't know for 100% sure 357 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,400 that this is what they are, but boy, it looks like an alien to 358 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,600 me. And he's selling that story to 359 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,880 people in the UFO community. And a lot of people are just 360 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,000 taking it to hook light in the secret because they want to 361 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,000 trust anybody else in the community. 362 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,960 They have a high level of trust. But is it OK to do that now? 363 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,080 Is it illegal? I don't know. 364 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,040 Probably not because he has plausible deniability. 365 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:13,920 But is it taking attention away from real things that deserve 366 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,280 attention? Real things, like the fact that 367 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:22,600 John Greenwald can't get a unredacted version of a UFO 368 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,240 crash retrieval from 70 years ago. 369 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,920 Things like we are constantly being denied. 370 00:19:29,360 --> 00:19:32,760 It's simple things like FAA logs but they don't want to tell us 371 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,960 about. And just this whole backlog, 372 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:44,440 vast sea of documents and information and videos, like the 373 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:48,360 videos from the cockpit where the three UFOs were shot down 374 00:19:48,360 --> 00:19:50,680 earlier this year, all this kind of stuff. 375 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,680 We should be talking about that and demanding just the simple 376 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:59,680 disclosure, like give us the unredacted documents, give us 377 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,720 the cockpit video, put it on television so we can all see it, 378 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,240 and then we can make up our own mind. 379 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:08,120 But instead of talking about that, we're talking about a 380 00:20:08,120 --> 00:20:12,560 couple of I don't know, should I call them creatures? 381 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:17,600 Should I call them creations? Should I call them little dolls, 382 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,240 whatever they are? Making the rounds in Mexico and 383 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:27,840 we still haven't had, as far as I can see, a open, transparent 384 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:33,000 discovery process where we can all talk about what these things 385 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,760 are Now I'll finish up here. It says these aliens are part of 386 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,000 a long pattern of racism and erasure. 387 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,080 This is a real thing to consider after taking these things out of 388 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:46,400 Peruvian graveyards. You know, ancient graveyards. 389 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,680 That's not cool. OK, that's that's really not 390 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,320 cool, it says. This is part. 391 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:55,080 This is the part where all of this gets less wacky and a lot 392 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,520 less fun. Because even beyond the travesty 393 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,280 that is disturbing individual disinterred remains. 394 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:05,280 Why the centuries of social attempts to diminish the glory 395 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:09,040 of pre Columbian artists and architects and turn their works 396 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,440 into inconceivable ancient alien wonders? 397 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,480 For instance, every few years the same viral discovery 398 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,360 recirculates around the Internet and then it goes on and talks 399 00:21:18,360 --> 00:21:22,800 about kind of this whole ancient alien things and this, this 400 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,880 author, and maybe he's a native from there, has a lot of 401 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,440 discomfort and annoyance with these people saying, well these 402 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,520 things couldn't have been created by the locals because 403 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,640 they were not educated enough, they were too incompetent to 404 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:37,880 make them so It must have been aliens. 405 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:43,560 He's got a point. If there were multiple History 406 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,040 Channel programs and Discovery Channel programs dedicating to 407 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,720 to telling to telling the world that the Romans were too 408 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,720 incompetent to build the Colosseum of people might laugh 409 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,480 and ridicule that. But it seems like the same thing 410 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:04,360 can be said about these really cool giant structures made by 411 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:09,520 natives in in the distant past. And it's all fine and dandy. 412 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,360 So that's the important thing. I think that's why it's so 413 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,080 crucial that we talk about what we know. 414 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,840 And if you want to speculate on stuff, that's fine, That can be 415 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,520 fun. But let's to make sure people 416 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,960 know that we're simply speculating and that we're just 417 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,240 considering all the possibilities. 418 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,120 So anyway, you get into a whole can of worms here when you're 419 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,960 when you're going down to Peru and you're digging up graves of 420 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,800 ancient indigenous people that live there. 421 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:39,080 And then you're telling people, well this, this bummy that I'm 422 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,240 showing you could be a hybrid between an alien and one of 423 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,000 those ancient individuals that live there. 424 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:49,200 And then you're pregnant, body around without knowing for sure 425 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,160 what what its history is, what the chain of custody is. 426 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,160 You're going to face accusations of being indifferent toward 427 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:03,480 people, of being, you know, racist, of being just not caring 428 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,480 about the local culture. And that is not going to help 429 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,040 the UFO community out whatsoever. 430 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,880 So do I think these alien mummies are real? 431 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:16,800 Personally, I don't think so. Do they deserve some more study? 432 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,680 Sure. But we also need to establish a 433 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,120 chain of custody so that we make sure that people aren't going to 434 00:23:24,120 --> 00:23:27,520 Peru and robbing these graves. Because, you know, we have laws 435 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,680 against that in this country and there should probably be laws 436 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,840 against that in Peru as well. Until next time, this is UFO 437 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:34,760 Warning Over now.