Hello and welcome to the program.
You will fall warning. And this episode we're talking
about the latest UFO whistleblower.
That's correct. The latest UFO whistleblower.
This is made some pretty big news has been all over network
television, of course. It's just completely consumed
the internet and involves a fellow coming forward.
Saying that the United States government does have UFO craft
and possibly occupants to boot. The story was broke by Leslie,
Kean and Ralph Blumenthal. And the first article that came
out with appear, June 5th, 223 yesterday on the debrief
dot-org. That's the debrief dot-org
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anyway. There's some questions about the
person that brought this stuff forward and the claims are
fantastic. First, we'll look at the claims
and then we'll just take a couple minutes to look at some
brief comments about the Whistleblower himself.
He got to admit the guy had a lot of courage to come forward
and he puts his name and face out there with the story.
So I'll give him credit for that regardless, you know, have how
this thing proves out. Now, the article begins that
says a Former Intelligence official turned whistleblower
has given Congress and The intelligence Community
Inspector, General extensive classified information, about
deeply covert programs, that he says, possessed, retrieved
intact, and partially intact craft of non-human origin.
I'll say right up front in my opinion, that's the way to do
this, is to work within the system.
If you're an employee of one of these agencies, rather than risk
going to prison for passing classified information to a
celebrity journalist, one of the comments yesterday, Think
misunderstood what I was saying. It wasn't saying that we should
Bow Down and Worship the government.
I'm just saying we should work in a way that we don't risk
going to prison for the rest of our lives like Julian Assange
or, you know, Edward Snowden. We don't need to do that.
And what this guy is shown here is, yes, he's coming out with
this whistle blowing Revelations but he's revealing the
information to the people. He's told to do it too, and
that's going to save him. I think it says the information
he says has been Illegally with help from Congress and he filed
a complaint alleging that he suffered illegal retaliation for
his confidential, disclosures reported here for the first
time. That's important, he's accusing
these guys are breaking the law. Other intelligence officials,
both active and retired with knowledge of these programs,
through their work in various agencies, have been
independently provided similar, corroborating information, both
on, and off the Record. Here's a good part, The
Whistleblower. David Charles grush, I believe
it's pronounced. Smelled Gru.
SCH 36. A decorated, former combat
officer and Afghanistan is a veteran of the national
geospatial-intelligence agency in GA, and the national
reconnaissance office. Nro.
He served as a reconnaissance office representative to the
unidentified. Aerial phenomena task.
Force from 2019 to 2021, from late 20, 21 to 22 July.
He was in Jays co-lead for UAP analysis.
And It's representative to the task force.
So it sounds like he was pretty high up there within the
system's. Got a picture of the fellow here
with all of his different patches and stuff and they'll
say he's got a ton of metals, the task force was established
to investigate. What were once called,
identified, flying objects or UFOs and are now officially
called unidentified anomalous, phenomena, are you AP?
The task force was led by the department of the Navy, under
the office of the undersecretary of defense for intelligence and
security, it has since been reorganized and Did in to all
domain anomaly, resolution office, to include
investigations of objects, operating under water.
You know, it's to me, it just seems like more shell games but
you know whatever Greg said, the recovery is a partial fragments
through and up to intact. Vehicles have been made for
decades through their present day by the government.
Its allies and defense contractors analysis has
determined that the objects retrieved our of exotic origin
quote parentheses rather not On human intelligence whether
extraterrestrial or Unknown Origin, that's very important.
I know an orange it I've been saying for years to stuff as
interdimensional based on the vehicle morphologies and
material science Testing and the position of unique Atomic
arrangements and radiological signatures, he said, we've
talked about this on the podcast.
Many times about the atomic Arrangements that these things
are like nothing that we see here on Earth, real logical
signatures from other distant galaxies.
We've reported this. When we talk about Implants he
says, in filing his complaint, gresh is represented by a lawyer
who served as the original intelligence Community Inspector
General IC IG, quote. We are not talking about prosaic
origins or identity scratch said referencing information.
He provided Congress and the current IC IG, the material
includes intact and partially intact vehicles.
In other words, we've got the receipts and accordance with
protocol squash provided the defense office of
pre-publication and Security review at the department of
Fence with the information he intended to disclose to us his
on-the-record statements were all cleared for open publication
on April 4th and 6 2023 and documents provided to us.
It says Garcia's disclosures and those of non-public Witnesses
under new protective provisions of the ladies defense,
Appropriations Bill signal a growing determination by some of
the governor and the government to unravel a claw Sigma with a
national security, implications that has bedeviled the military
and Eliza public going back to World War 2 and Beyond and then
it goes here, says Carey Carlene.
L.a. recently retired army colonel and current Aerospace
executive who was the Army's liaison for the UAP.
Task force, from 2021 to 2022, and worked with Crush their
characterizes grush as Beyond reproach.
Well, that's his character, witness Christopher melon and
we've talked about the sky before, but it says here, who
spent nearly 20 years in the US intelligence community and
served as a deputy assistant, Assistant secretary of defense
for intelligence has worked with Congress for years on identified
Arrow phenomenon quote, a number of well-placed current.
And former officials have shared detailed information with me
regarding this alleged program, including insights into the
abandoned. And recovered melon said,
however, it is a delicate matter.
Getting this potentially explosive information into the
right hands for validation. This is made Harder by the fact
that rightly or wrongly a number of potential sources.
Do not trust leadership of the arrow office to By Congress.
Well, how could you blame him? But some insiders are now
willing to take the risk of coming forward for the first
time with knowledge of these recovery programs.
And it says, Jonathan gray is a generational officer of the
United States intelligence Community.
Generally, they're just coming out and telling you
generational. That's part of the problem is
hold deep State apparatus. Is this become a generational
thing short of an all in the family kind of operation.
Anyway says this guy has top-secret clearances work for
NASA kits. NAIC National Air and Space
Intelligence Center and quote, the nonhuman intelligence
phenomenon is real. We are not alone.
Gray said, retrievals of this kind are not limited to United
States. This is a global phenomenon yet
a global solution continue to Elite it elude us.
Look there's not going to be a global solution nations are far
too competitive to ever get together and work on this thing
and cooperatively. It gives it's going to give
somebody like communist China or you know the Russian Oleg are
key Putin. And even our country, such a
tremendous Advantage. Why would you ever work with a
group of people that are diametrically opposed to what
you believe in sight? According to a 2021 nro
performance report, Crush Was an intelligent strategist with
multiple responsibilities, who analyze unidentified aerial
phenomena reports and boosted Congressional leadership until
gaps and understanding, he was assessed by the reconnaissance
office Operation Center, deputy director, as an Adept staff
officer strategist and total Force integrated Within -
Solutions and actionable results.
And so, they're saying, you know, basically the guy's a
stand-up guy, Crush prepared. Many briefs on unidentified
aerial phenomena for congress, long government and helped draft
the language on the UAP for the fiscal year 2023 National
Defense. Authorization act goes online to
kind of just, let's just Bona fides here a little bit.
Basically, they're telling you this is not, it's not like a
Bob, Lazar case where we can't tell, where the guy came from.
We have to kind of take him for his word.
Yeah, he's got some stuff he can, he can show to prove.
He was here that are certain time but All these questions
remain. This guy was an Insider.
He's got a long history of working for the government.
He was specifically was assigned to work with the UFO threat and
now he's coming out and he's telling you Hey listen the
government has this program, it's been going on for years.
I've been trying to blow the whistle on it for a long time.
They won't listen to me and they are illegally withholding the
information from Congress. Now that part I can believe
because look and we've been talking about this for a long
time. How the Deep state is just
Cutting Congress out of the loop and it's almost like we have as
fourth branch of government really.
It says, according to the unclassified, complaint in July
twenty. Twenty one group had
confidently, provided classified information to Department of
Defense, Inspector General concerning the withholding of
UAP related information from Congress.
He believed that his identity, the fact that he had provided
testimony were disclosed to individuals or entities within
the department defense and intelligence Community outside
the ig's office. He did not allege this
information, was improperly disposed by any member of that
off. Sounds like it's getting a
little bit worried as a result gresh suffered months of
retaliation and reprisals related to these disclosures
beginning in 2021, he asked that details of these reprisals, be
withheld to protect the Integrity of the ongoing
investigation. Wow, you know, that's kind of
the thing first rule about Fight Club.
Don't talk about Fight Club. The intelligence Community
Inspector General, found his complaint credible inderjit, I
mean, how bad is it got to be before?
The Insiders are saying that this guy has actually been
retaliated. It against I'm assuming there's
some really bad stuff that's happened.
According to garage, the summary was immediately submitted to the
Director of National Intelligence Ariel.
Haines heard that name before the Senate select committee on
intelligence and the house permanent select committee on
intelligence. The complaint was drafted and
signed by a McCall Mccalla and his managing partner.
It ended with crutches signature attached to his statement that I
do solemnly affirm under the penalties of perjury.
That the contents of the foregoing paper are true and
correct the best of my knowledge.
So this guy, he's The receipts May saying listen, if I'm lying
I'm going to risk going to prison.
I tell you, you got a lot of credibility to someone that says
that he's coming out here, he's not a Bob Lazar, he's not coming
out and saying this happened and that happened and this is my
story and maybe I can pass a polygraph test and maybe we can
talk about this for that. This guy is bringing the
receipts. He worked within the system,
he's telling you that he tried to get this information released
a Congress that they retaliated against him that he filed a
complaint, or Or that retaliation.
It was found. It looks like it's grounded, it
still working its way through the system and he's out here in
public. He's I think maybe he's
releasing this information because he's afraid.
If he doesn't something even worse could happen.
It looks like the people who brought this forward have been
very careful not to release anything that's classified.
They're protecting themselves. Now, if that's Cowtown to the
government, so be it. But they've been smart enough
not to just release something where you can't prove the chain
of custody and and put themselves.
Legal Jeopardy. They've done this the right way
as far as I can see. Now could this whole thing be a
limited hangout? Could this whole thing be a head
fake? I suppose but right now it's
looking like a pretty serious case of whistleblowing goes on
and says a vast array of our most sophisticated sensors,
including space based platforms, have utilized have been utilized
by different agencies typical and triplicate to observe the
accurate identity. The out-of-this-world nature
performance and design of anomalous machines, which are
then determined, not not to be of Earthly.
Origin, gray said, another deep State expert.
Tell on you look, we've got these things from multiple
camera. Angles, we talked about this on
the siding off the coast of San Diego there back when 2004-2009,
whatever it was, they had fished from the boat pictures from the
satellite and pictures from the, the fighter jets pictures that
we weren't allowed to see. Remember that I talked about
them in Black showed up on the on the flight deck and took all
this stuff back with them, I suppose that's been going on for
a long time. I mean It's no surprise that
every time NASA has a UFO show up at the space station.
Is we conveniently have a cut in the feed.
Goes on a quote smelling it says, that's Christopher Melmac
or says that once the members of Congress Congress gain greater
awareness and information provided their staff and
Inspector General, they will be in a position to quickly.
Determine the truth if they have the will to do so.
Well, I don't have a lot of a lot of faith in that goes on a
quotes Nolan here. All The Usual Suspects.
These guys, I guess you're on the Short list of people that
the journalists call and they need some fill into the article.
That like I said, the fact that this guy sign a paper saying he
would he would swear to this under penalty of perjury and the
fact that we've got his benefit is that we see where he worked
at. Wow, pretty amazing to me.
Now I will take a couple looks at things.
People have said about the guy just to throw that that you'd
say maybe they're Throwing Shade, I but we need to know
about all of this stuff. Now there have been a couple
people question, how the material was released and even
talking a little bit about The Whistleblower who is associated
with kind of maybe Throwing Shade on the guy a little bit
right now I have to say that I'm definitely in the camp of
wanting to believe this guy just because he's been as transparent
as he can be. We can see the chain of custody
that the information that he has is taking and hasn't been
cleaned. Only passed off to somebody to
parking lot. You know.
He did partner up with a couple celebrity journalist but it's a
big story. I mean are you going to?
Are you going to talk to some small fry like me to break a
story like this? No, of course not.
You're going to get the big names out there.
If nothing else just to protect yourself.
You want this story to be out there where everybody can see
it, you know, he's already said they met, he's been retaliated
against and that retaliation claim was substantiated.
And by the way, Whistleblower, you know, organization that
checks the step. So the guys credible to me, wait
credible the personal references.
Yeah. Okay whatever but just the fact
that he can show where he's been working at, he can show what job
she had and the fact that he tried to share this information
with Congress first, it's a big deal to me.
Now if he wants to go out later to make the UFO rounds and and
and do Speaking engagements and get paid for it.
That's up to him. That's the entertainment part of
this where people enjoy hearing about this stuff, that's his
decision. But as far as him trying to
release this information and as far as his credibility, I have
to lean toward favoring him right now.
Although not everybody is doing that now.
John Greenwald he made a comment here and on his on his Twitter,
he says, Leslie Khan posted a Facebook that her and Ralph blue
passed on. On Washington Post publishing
their piece about non-human origin craft, because wopo was
taking too much time. So they went to the debrief
because they were under growing pressure pressure by whom ye
ass. That's a legitimate question was
a pressure because this guy felt like the Deep state was coming
after him, or was it a pressure to get this stuff into the new
cycle? Even if it was just to get into
the new cycle, I can understand that because, you know, you want
the story to the reach, the maximum potential and if they
felt like I think it came up that was just overshadow this or
whatever. I mean, they're professional
journalists. They know when they need to
release this stuff so I don't blame them there Leslie.
Kern current had Keen rather it had published the tweet that
said to be clear, the Washington Post did not pass on our story
Ralph and I took it to the debrief because we were under
growing pressure to publish it. Very quickly.
The post needed more time and we couldn't wait.
Well, you know, that's on them, they went ahead and published it
and they said that they Have done the back.
Check on it, verified everything.
If they didn't. It'll come out and it'll be a
big mess. But right now, it looks like
they have their ducks in a row. Now, somebody else who raised
some complaints about this was Steven Greene Street.
Now, I like a lot of his work, but he seems like he's gotten
more and more vicious towards some of the UFO stuff.
I didn't realize the Steven Greene Street was actually had
top secret. Clearance is, there's a podcast.
He was on and I retweeted it where he talks about working for
an agency, where they were producing.
Propaganda basically directed toward Muslim youth to to
encourage them, to be less hostile to the US, any and he
revealed that he had a top secret clearance.
That's something I think people should reveal before they get on
board this public discussion because if he has a top secret
clearance then then obviously there's things that he can't
tell us about and that could shade what he knows and what he
doesn't know and what he's wanting to reveal, it could it
could very much affect the motives he has you know, toward
Saying certain things. So I just think we should know
that now, Greece has come out and said his tweet was UFO.
Whistleblower, David Kirsch groom by deceitful UFO activist
now you can kind of see there. He has had a real axe to grind
with a low of Elizondo and the whole Skinwalker crew.
I don't know exactly what happened there.
If Steven Greene Street feels like he has been deceived as a
journalist, he's really angry about any kind of damage that
could have been done to trip to his reputation, but man, he's He
went on a rant, he says, David Gersh claims the US government
is in position of crashed, alien spacecraft and alien bodies.
This story is going viral right now.
Brian Bender, Former Defense writer for Politico, who covered
UFOs for years, tweeted his opinion.
That gross was groomed by dubious.
UFO activist Louis Elizondo for several years while Lewis,
getting beat up and 2017 Elizondo briefly.
We reached see less celebrity status after claiming he was
once the director of Pentagon UFO program.
He claimed otherworldly UFOs were real and that we may not be
alone. This kicked off a five plus
years of UFO Mania. Now, look, I've been pretty
critical of Leo myself. In fact, that posted that little
meme on my Twitter site at warning sub UFO.
And you know, with, with Louise picture saying, never trust an
old man, with new ink, I did that because Lori has come out
and said, hey, you know, there could be there Relations were
basically your religion doesn't mean anything everything that
you thought you knew was wrong, and I just think that that's not
a cool thing to do. It could almost end still mass
panic, no matter what happens. That doesn't mean people have to
change our entire belief system and just means, hey, we found
out something new. We don't need to infer that
everything we believed in has been erased.
Therefore we have to look to some new UFO celebrity or some
new deep state. Actor to tell us what to do.
That didn't work out the last time so well if you remember a
particular virus that went around a couple years ago
walking everybody down and making people do things.
They didn't want to do. It's really not the American way
and as far as this UFO thing goes to just tell people that
their whole belief system is crap.
And that you know, we're going to give you this new information
in this new knowledge is also not the way to do things.
Anyway, that's my soapbox and 2017.
Elizondo briefly reached celebrity status after claimed.
Silas celebrities after claiming he was once the director of a
pentagon UFO program. It says, but that was all wrong.
My exclusive reporting from this is green shade, of course,
talking for New York, Post exposes Elizondo as untruthful
with his UFO claims. There is no evidence at all to
support his stories and available evidence actually
contradicts his entire narrative.
So you can see Green Street is on Louis like a hog on rye.
Well at political Brian Bender, was one of the first to
credulous late report Elizondo the story in 2017 but later He
admitted, he was purposely misled.
And his new story was written by the same UFO activist and this
new story was with my, the Samuel activists Leslie, Kean
and Ralph Blumenthal who wrote the original false and
deceptive. 2017 Elizondo story in the New York Times.
Now I did think that was a little sketchy how that video
ended up being passed from the Pentagon to melon reportedly by
Louis and then it ends up by the New York Times.
And then next time, It's all over Tom DeLonge as website with
his with his to the academy stars watermark on it.
That whole thing I thought was not cool.
Anyway it goes on and says now that L is on its claims have
been proven false, he has mostly disappeared from the public eye.
I don't know if it's plaintiff claims have been proven false.
You know, you said a lot of stuff, a lot of it seemed pretty
accurate to me. The thing about Louis is it's
almost like he was blowing up his resume a little bit.
Maybe, I don't know, but I think people forget how lazy the
average federal She is and probably the average state
employee. I mean, I personally think that
if you apply the 80/20 rule, you would find out that 20% of these
Federal and probably even state employees are doing 80% of the
work. And I can tell you from what
I've seen. Personally, a lot of these guys,
they mostly just go and sit behind a desk all day, drink
coffee, hang out the water cooler.
And then go on trips for so-called meetings.
I mean meeting meeting meeting. I mean, it's just one meeting.
Another about nothing and what they actually get done.
At the end of the day is usually zero.
Okay. Meanwhile probably 20% of the
people are making the gears turn and I kind of it.
Almost seems to me like maybe Louis was in that 80%, where you
just go to work, you have an office, you chill.
Nobody really knows what you do. It's almost like a Costanza
situation, you know, you're shuffling papers back and forth.
I can see Lewis, l, Zonda being George Costanza, you know, Hey,
I passed those videos off to Christopher million independent
in the Pentagon parking lot, is there anything wrong with that?
You know, that kind of attitude where these guys just go in the
kind of exploit their position. But that doesn't that doesn't
mean that the pictures aren't real.
That doesn't mean the pilots haven't seen these things.
I mean it's only normal that if you get a guy who has a
personality or he's a little bit on the side of things where you
know he's going to exploit a situation, where maybe he's not,
Not really cut out for, you know, supervising a shovel all
day. He seized this opportunity
working in the bowels of the Pentagon and maybe it wasn't
that big of a deal. It was just some position but
created by Harry Reid and Louis fell into it.
That doesn't mean the stuff doesn't exist.
That just means that Louis made the most of what he knew about
the situation. Okay?
I do believe there's some truth that what you said, probably a
lot of truth. But I also think that he
probably made himself seemed Like a bigger deal than what he
actually is. That doesn't mean that this
latest film that came along, is being untruthful or didn't see
things. He claimed to see time will
tell, but you know, the story is so big that it's only natural.
This latest whistleblower is going to get caught up with
these UFO celebrities with these UFO, celebrity journalist,
because those are the people at the top of the food chain, this,
you know, we live in a time of social.
Works and the way you get the stories out is through a social
network and so I can't be too hard on this guy because he's
involved with Louis Elizondo. I don't know.
At the very least we can say is that he did go through legal
channels to try to release it. He didn't pass this off off in a
parking lot somewhere. If he's conflicted in some way
it'll come out but he also signed a piece of paper.
Swearing his allegations It's his assertions rather under
penalty of perjury, that's kind of a big deal to me.
So I feel like the guy it's being his own Liberty on the
line, he deserves to be heard, the story deserves some time to
play out and if it turns out that it's not true, then we'll
talk about it. If it turns out that it is true
and this is just one more case of the deep State hiding, the
evidence. Well then, I guess I can say
once again, I was right. But until next time, this is UFO
morning over and out.