1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:04,200 Hello and welcome to the program. 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,400 You will fall warning. And this episode we're talking 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,000 about the latest UFO whistleblower. 4 00:00:09,100 --> 00:00:12,300 That's correct. The latest UFO whistleblower. 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,200 This is made some pretty big news has been all over network 6 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,100 television, of course. It's just completely consumed 7 00:00:18,100 --> 00:00:21,200 the internet and involves a fellow coming forward. 8 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:27,200 Saying that the United States government does have UFO craft 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:31,500 and possibly occupants to boot. The story was broke by Leslie, 10 00:00:31,500 --> 00:00:35,200 Kean and Ralph Blumenthal. And the first article that came 11 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:40,100 out with appear, June 5th, 223 yesterday on the debrief 12 00:00:40,100 --> 00:00:42,100 dot-org. That's the debrief dot-org 13 00:00:42,900 --> 00:00:44,800 course. I'll be leaving links here at 14 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,300 the buy me a coffee website, as always, thanks to all the 15 00:00:48,300 --> 00:00:50,800 wonderful folks that support the program over there. 16 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,800 Probably the best way to do it. Also, you can support monthly on 17 00:00:54,900 --> 00:00:58,500 Spotify. Also, equally best way to do it 18 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,400 anyway. There's some questions about the 19 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,300 person that brought this stuff forward and the claims are 20 00:01:04,300 --> 00:01:07,200 fantastic. First, we'll look at the claims 21 00:01:07,500 --> 00:01:10,600 and then we'll just take a couple minutes to look at some 22 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,100 brief comments about the Whistleblower himself. 23 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,700 He got to admit the guy had a lot of courage to come forward 24 00:01:15,700 --> 00:01:18,500 and he puts his name and face out there with the story. 25 00:01:18,500 --> 00:01:22,300 So I'll give him credit for that regardless, you know, have how 26 00:01:22,300 --> 00:01:25,100 this thing proves out. Now, the article begins that 27 00:01:25,100 --> 00:01:28,200 says a Former Intelligence official turned whistleblower 28 00:01:28,300 --> 00:01:31,000 has given Congress and The intelligence Community 29 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:35,300 Inspector, General extensive classified information, about 30 00:01:35,300 --> 00:01:39,400 deeply covert programs, that he says, possessed, retrieved 31 00:01:39,500 --> 00:01:43,000 intact, and partially intact craft of non-human origin. 32 00:01:44,100 --> 00:01:47,500 I'll say right up front in my opinion, that's the way to do 33 00:01:47,500 --> 00:01:49,300 this, is to work within the system. 34 00:01:49,300 --> 00:01:52,900 If you're an employee of one of these agencies, rather than risk 35 00:01:52,900 --> 00:01:55,500 going to prison for passing classified information to a 36 00:01:55,500 --> 00:02:00,300 celebrity journalist, one of the comments yesterday, Think 37 00:02:00,300 --> 00:02:02,700 misunderstood what I was saying. It wasn't saying that we should 38 00:02:02,700 --> 00:02:04,000 Bow Down and Worship the government. 39 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,199 I'm just saying we should work in a way that we don't risk 40 00:02:08,199 --> 00:02:11,000 going to prison for the rest of our lives like Julian Assange 41 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,800 or, you know, Edward Snowden. We don't need to do that. 42 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,800 And what this guy is shown here is, yes, he's coming out with 43 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:22,700 this whistle blowing Revelations but he's revealing the 44 00:02:22,700 --> 00:02:25,500 information to the people. He's told to do it too, and 45 00:02:25,500 --> 00:02:29,000 that's going to save him. I think it says the information 46 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,700 he says has been Illegally with help from Congress and he filed 47 00:02:32,700 --> 00:02:36,500 a complaint alleging that he suffered illegal retaliation for 48 00:02:36,500 --> 00:02:39,800 his confidential, disclosures reported here for the first 49 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,600 time. That's important, he's accusing 50 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,200 these guys are breaking the law. Other intelligence officials, 51 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,700 both active and retired with knowledge of these programs, 52 00:02:46,700 --> 00:02:49,600 through their work in various agencies, have been 53 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,800 independently provided similar, corroborating information, both 54 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,800 on, and off the Record. Here's a good part, The 55 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,100 Whistleblower. David Charles grush, I believe 56 00:02:59,100 --> 00:03:01,500 it's pronounced. Smelled Gru. 57 00:03:01,500 --> 00:03:05,800 SCH 36. A decorated, former combat 58 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,500 officer and Afghanistan is a veteran of the national 59 00:03:08,500 --> 00:03:12,300 geospatial-intelligence agency in GA, and the national 60 00:03:12,300 --> 00:03:14,200 reconnaissance office. Nro. 61 00:03:14,500 --> 00:03:18,000 He served as a reconnaissance office representative to the 62 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,000 unidentified. Aerial phenomena task. 63 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:26,400 Force from 2019 to 2021, from late 20, 21 to 22 July. 64 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,600 He was in Jays co-lead for UAP analysis. 65 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,500 And It's representative to the task force. 66 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,600 So it sounds like he was pretty high up there within the 67 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:35,900 system's. Got a picture of the fellow here 68 00:03:35,900 --> 00:03:38,300 with all of his different patches and stuff and they'll 69 00:03:38,300 --> 00:03:41,800 say he's got a ton of metals, the task force was established 70 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,500 to investigate. What were once called, 71 00:03:43,500 --> 00:03:47,400 identified, flying objects or UFOs and are now officially 72 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,700 called unidentified anomalous, phenomena, are you AP? 73 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,900 The task force was led by the department of the Navy, under 74 00:03:53,900 --> 00:03:56,700 the office of the undersecretary of defense for intelligence and 75 00:03:56,700 --> 00:04:00,600 security, it has since been reorganized and Did in to all 76 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,800 domain anomaly, resolution office, to include 77 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,200 investigations of objects, operating under water. 78 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,000 You know, it's to me, it just seems like more shell games but 79 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,100 you know whatever Greg said, the recovery is a partial fragments 80 00:04:12,100 --> 00:04:16,300 through and up to intact. Vehicles have been made for 81 00:04:16,300 --> 00:04:19,800 decades through their present day by the government. 82 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,200 Its allies and defense contractors analysis has 83 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:27,200 determined that the objects retrieved our of exotic origin 84 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,400 quote parentheses rather not On human intelligence whether 85 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:35,200 extraterrestrial or Unknown Origin, that's very important. 86 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,100 I know an orange it I've been saying for years to stuff as 87 00:04:37,100 --> 00:04:40,000 interdimensional based on the vehicle morphologies and 88 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,700 material science Testing and the position of unique Atomic 89 00:04:43,700 --> 00:04:47,200 arrangements and radiological signatures, he said, we've 90 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:48,600 talked about this on the podcast. 91 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,600 Many times about the atomic Arrangements that these things 92 00:04:51,700 --> 00:04:55,000 are like nothing that we see here on Earth, real logical 93 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,500 signatures from other distant galaxies. 94 00:04:57,500 --> 00:05:01,400 We've reported this. When we talk about Implants he 95 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:05,000 says, in filing his complaint, gresh is represented by a lawyer 96 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,800 who served as the original intelligence Community Inspector 97 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,200 General IC IG, quote. We are not talking about prosaic 98 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,600 origins or identity scratch said referencing information. 99 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:17,400 He provided Congress and the current IC IG, the material 100 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,500 includes intact and partially intact vehicles. 101 00:05:21,500 --> 00:05:24,400 In other words, we've got the receipts and accordance with 102 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,600 protocol squash provided the defense office of 103 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,800 pre-publication and Security review at the department of 104 00:05:29,900 --> 00:05:33,500 Fence with the information he intended to disclose to us his 105 00:05:33,500 --> 00:05:36,900 on-the-record statements were all cleared for open publication 106 00:05:36,900 --> 00:05:41,600 on April 4th and 6 2023 and documents provided to us. 107 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,500 It says Garcia's disclosures and those of non-public Witnesses 108 00:05:45,500 --> 00:05:49,200 under new protective provisions of the ladies defense, 109 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,400 Appropriations Bill signal a growing determination by some of 110 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,600 the governor and the government to unravel a claw Sigma with a 111 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,100 national security, implications that has bedeviled the military 112 00:05:59,500 --> 00:06:03,300 and Eliza public going back to World War 2 and Beyond and then 113 00:06:03,300 --> 00:06:05,400 it goes here, says Carey Carlene. 114 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:09,200 L.a. recently retired army colonel and current Aerospace 115 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,600 executive who was the Army's liaison for the UAP. 116 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,100 Task force, from 2021 to 2022, and worked with Crush their 117 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,600 characterizes grush as Beyond reproach. 118 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,800 Well, that's his character, witness Christopher melon and 119 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,000 we've talked about the sky before, but it says here, who 120 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,500 spent nearly 20 years in the US intelligence community and 121 00:06:28,500 --> 00:06:31,100 served as a deputy assistant, Assistant secretary of defense 122 00:06:31,100 --> 00:06:34,200 for intelligence has worked with Congress for years on identified 123 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,300 Arrow phenomenon quote, a number of well-placed current. 124 00:06:37,300 --> 00:06:40,800 And former officials have shared detailed information with me 125 00:06:41,300 --> 00:06:44,300 regarding this alleged program, including insights into the 126 00:06:44,300 --> 00:06:46,200 abandoned. And recovered melon said, 127 00:06:46,500 --> 00:06:48,000 however, it is a delicate matter. 128 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,100 Getting this potentially explosive information into the 129 00:06:50,100 --> 00:06:53,800 right hands for validation. This is made Harder by the fact 130 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,200 that rightly or wrongly a number of potential sources. 131 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:00,600 Do not trust leadership of the arrow office to By Congress. 132 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,700 Well, how could you blame him? But some insiders are now 133 00:07:03,700 --> 00:07:05,800 willing to take the risk of coming forward for the first 134 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,400 time with knowledge of these recovery programs. 135 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,800 And it says, Jonathan gray is a generational officer of the 136 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,400 United States intelligence Community. 137 00:07:14,300 --> 00:07:16,200 Generally, they're just coming out and telling you 138 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,100 generational. That's part of the problem is 139 00:07:18,100 --> 00:07:21,000 hold deep State apparatus. Is this become a generational 140 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,400 thing short of an all in the family kind of operation. 141 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:29,000 Anyway says this guy has top-secret clearances work for 142 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,700 NASA kits. NAIC National Air and Space 143 00:07:31,700 --> 00:07:35,800 Intelligence Center and quote, the nonhuman intelligence 144 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,400 phenomenon is real. We are not alone. 145 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,900 Gray said, retrievals of this kind are not limited to United 146 00:07:39,900 --> 00:07:41,500 States. This is a global phenomenon yet 147 00:07:41,500 --> 00:07:43,900 a global solution continue to Elite it elude us. 148 00:07:44,300 --> 00:07:48,000 Look there's not going to be a global solution nations are far 149 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,700 too competitive to ever get together and work on this thing 150 00:07:51,700 --> 00:07:54,400 and cooperatively. It gives it's going to give 151 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:58,600 somebody like communist China or you know the Russian Oleg are 152 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,700 key Putin. And even our country, such a 153 00:08:01,700 --> 00:08:04,900 tremendous Advantage. Why would you ever work with a 154 00:08:04,900 --> 00:08:07,800 group of people that are diametrically opposed to what 155 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,300 you believe in sight? According to a 2021 nro 156 00:08:11,300 --> 00:08:13,700 performance report, Crush Was an intelligent strategist with 157 00:08:13,700 --> 00:08:16,700 multiple responsibilities, who analyze unidentified aerial 158 00:08:16,700 --> 00:08:19,900 phenomena reports and boosted Congressional leadership until 159 00:08:19,900 --> 00:08:23,600 gaps and understanding, he was assessed by the reconnaissance 160 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,600 office Operation Center, deputy director, as an Adept staff 161 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,200 officer strategist and total Force integrated Within - 162 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:31,900 Solutions and actionable results. 163 00:08:31,900 --> 00:08:33,799 And so, they're saying, you know, basically the guy's a 164 00:08:33,799 --> 00:08:36,799 stand-up guy, Crush prepared. Many briefs on unidentified 165 00:08:36,799 --> 00:08:40,000 aerial phenomena for congress, long government and helped draft 166 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,400 the language on the UAP for the fiscal year 2023 National 167 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,700 Defense. Authorization act goes online to 168 00:08:45,708 --> 00:08:47,600 kind of just, let's just Bona fides here a little bit. 169 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,900 Basically, they're telling you this is not, it's not like a 170 00:08:50,908 --> 00:08:53,500 Bob, Lazar case where we can't tell, where the guy came from. 171 00:08:53,700 --> 00:08:55,300 We have to kind of take him for his word. 172 00:08:55,300 --> 00:08:58,300 Yeah, he's got some stuff he can, he can show to prove. 173 00:08:58,300 --> 00:09:00,600 He was here that are certain time but All these questions 174 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,300 remain. This guy was an Insider. 175 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,300 He's got a long history of working for the government. 176 00:09:05,300 --> 00:09:09,300 He was specifically was assigned to work with the UFO threat and 177 00:09:09,300 --> 00:09:11,500 now he's coming out and he's telling you Hey listen the 178 00:09:11,500 --> 00:09:14,600 government has this program, it's been going on for years. 179 00:09:14,900 --> 00:09:17,500 I've been trying to blow the whistle on it for a long time. 180 00:09:17,500 --> 00:09:20,900 They won't listen to me and they are illegally withholding the 181 00:09:20,900 --> 00:09:24,200 information from Congress. Now that part I can believe 182 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:28,300 because look and we've been talking about this for a long 183 00:09:28,300 --> 00:09:29,600 time. How the Deep state is just 184 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,500 Cutting Congress out of the loop and it's almost like we have as 185 00:09:33,500 --> 00:09:35,000 fourth branch of government really. 186 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,700 It says, according to the unclassified, complaint in July 187 00:09:37,700 --> 00:09:39,300 twenty. Twenty one group had 188 00:09:39,300 --> 00:09:41,700 confidently, provided classified information to Department of 189 00:09:41,708 --> 00:09:44,800 Defense, Inspector General concerning the withholding of 190 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,900 UAP related information from Congress. 191 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,500 He believed that his identity, the fact that he had provided 192 00:09:49,500 --> 00:09:52,600 testimony were disclosed to individuals or entities within 193 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,000 the department defense and intelligence Community outside 194 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,800 the ig's office. He did not allege this 195 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,600 information, was improperly disposed by any member of that 196 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,000 off. Sounds like it's getting a 197 00:10:01,008 --> 00:10:03,800 little bit worried as a result gresh suffered months of 198 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,500 retaliation and reprisals related to these disclosures 199 00:10:07,500 --> 00:10:10,600 beginning in 2021, he asked that details of these reprisals, be 200 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,700 withheld to protect the Integrity of the ongoing 201 00:10:13,700 --> 00:10:17,200 investigation. Wow, you know, that's kind of 202 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,800 the thing first rule about Fight Club. 203 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,400 Don't talk about Fight Club. The intelligence Community 204 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,000 Inspector General, found his complaint credible inderjit, I 205 00:10:25,008 --> 00:10:26,700 mean, how bad is it got to be before? 206 00:10:26,700 --> 00:10:29,100 The Insiders are saying that this guy has actually been 207 00:10:29,100 --> 00:10:31,400 retaliated. It against I'm assuming there's 208 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:32,700 some really bad stuff that's happened. 209 00:10:32,900 --> 00:10:35,600 According to garage, the summary was immediately submitted to the 210 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,300 Director of National Intelligence Ariel. 211 00:10:37,300 --> 00:10:40,200 Haines heard that name before the Senate select committee on 212 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,100 intelligence and the house permanent select committee on 213 00:10:42,100 --> 00:10:43,900 intelligence. The complaint was drafted and 214 00:10:43,900 --> 00:10:47,400 signed by a McCall Mccalla and his managing partner. 215 00:10:47,700 --> 00:10:51,200 It ended with crutches signature attached to his statement that I 216 00:10:51,208 --> 00:10:53,800 do solemnly affirm under the penalties of perjury. 217 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,900 That the contents of the foregoing paper are true and 218 00:10:56,900 --> 00:10:58,500 correct the best of my knowledge. 219 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,000 So this guy, he's The receipts May saying listen, if I'm lying 220 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:03,600 I'm going to risk going to prison. 221 00:11:04,100 --> 00:11:08,900 I tell you, you got a lot of credibility to someone that says 222 00:11:08,900 --> 00:11:11,600 that he's coming out here, he's not a Bob Lazar, he's not coming 223 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,200 out and saying this happened and that happened and this is my 224 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,300 story and maybe I can pass a polygraph test and maybe we can 225 00:11:17,300 --> 00:11:19,500 talk about this for that. This guy is bringing the 226 00:11:19,500 --> 00:11:22,000 receipts. He worked within the system, 227 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,200 he's telling you that he tried to get this information released 228 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,900 a Congress that they retaliated against him that he filed a 229 00:11:28,908 --> 00:11:30,700 complaint, or Or that retaliation. 230 00:11:30,700 --> 00:11:33,100 It was found. It looks like it's grounded, it 231 00:11:33,100 --> 00:11:35,800 still working its way through the system and he's out here in 232 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,700 public. He's I think maybe he's 233 00:11:37,700 --> 00:11:40,700 releasing this information because he's afraid. 234 00:11:40,700 --> 00:11:42,400 If he doesn't something even worse could happen. 235 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,100 It looks like the people who brought this forward have been 236 00:11:46,100 --> 00:11:48,300 very careful not to release anything that's classified. 237 00:11:48,300 --> 00:11:51,300 They're protecting themselves. Now, if that's Cowtown to the 238 00:11:51,300 --> 00:11:53,900 government, so be it. But they've been smart enough 239 00:11:53,900 --> 00:11:57,200 not to just release something where you can't prove the chain 240 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,600 of custody and and put themselves. 241 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,700 Legal Jeopardy. They've done this the right way 242 00:12:02,700 --> 00:12:05,800 as far as I can see. Now could this whole thing be a 243 00:12:05,808 --> 00:12:07,900 limited hangout? Could this whole thing be a head 244 00:12:07,900 --> 00:12:10,400 fake? I suppose but right now it's 245 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:14,100 looking like a pretty serious case of whistleblowing goes on 246 00:12:14,100 --> 00:12:17,700 and says a vast array of our most sophisticated sensors, 247 00:12:17,700 --> 00:12:20,600 including space based platforms, have utilized have been utilized 248 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,800 by different agencies typical and triplicate to observe the 249 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,000 accurate identity. The out-of-this-world nature 250 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,500 performance and design of anomalous machines, which are 251 00:12:28,508 --> 00:12:30,500 then determined, not not to be of Earthly. 252 00:12:30,500 --> 00:12:33,500 Origin, gray said, another deep State expert. 253 00:12:33,500 --> 00:12:35,900 Tell on you look, we've got these things from multiple 254 00:12:35,900 --> 00:12:38,200 camera. Angles, we talked about this on 255 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:42,300 the siding off the coast of San Diego there back when 2004-2009, 256 00:12:42,300 --> 00:12:45,600 whatever it was, they had fished from the boat pictures from the 257 00:12:45,608 --> 00:12:50,400 satellite and pictures from the, the fighter jets pictures that 258 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,300 we weren't allowed to see. Remember that I talked about 259 00:12:52,300 --> 00:12:55,200 them in Black showed up on the on the flight deck and took all 260 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,600 this stuff back with them, I suppose that's been going on for 261 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,400 a long time. I mean It's no surprise that 262 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,000 every time NASA has a UFO show up at the space station. 263 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,600 Is we conveniently have a cut in the feed. 264 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,400 Goes on a quote smelling it says, that's Christopher Melmac 265 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:13,100 or says that once the members of Congress Congress gain greater 266 00:13:13,100 --> 00:13:15,100 awareness and information provided their staff and 267 00:13:15,100 --> 00:13:17,800 Inspector General, they will be in a position to quickly. 268 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,500 Determine the truth if they have the will to do so. 269 00:13:20,700 --> 00:13:25,300 Well, I don't have a lot of a lot of faith in that goes on a 270 00:13:25,308 --> 00:13:27,900 quotes Nolan here. All The Usual Suspects. 271 00:13:28,100 --> 00:13:31,100 These guys, I guess you're on the Short list of people that 272 00:13:31,100 --> 00:13:36,600 the journalists call and they need some fill into the article. 273 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:41,100 That like I said, the fact that this guy sign a paper saying he 274 00:13:41,100 --> 00:13:44,600 would he would swear to this under penalty of perjury and the 275 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,600 fact that we've got his benefit is that we see where he worked 276 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,300 at. Wow, pretty amazing to me. 277 00:13:50,300 --> 00:13:53,200 Now I will take a couple looks at things. 278 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,000 People have said about the guy just to throw that that you'd 279 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,700 say maybe they're Throwing Shade, I but we need to know 280 00:13:57,708 --> 00:14:01,100 about all of this stuff. Now there have been a couple 281 00:14:01,100 --> 00:14:05,300 people question, how the material was released and even 282 00:14:06,300 --> 00:14:10,000 talking a little bit about The Whistleblower who is associated 283 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,200 with kind of maybe Throwing Shade on the guy a little bit 284 00:14:13,900 --> 00:14:18,300 right now I have to say that I'm definitely in the camp of 285 00:14:18,300 --> 00:14:22,400 wanting to believe this guy just because he's been as transparent 286 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:26,100 as he can be. We can see the chain of custody 287 00:14:26,100 --> 00:14:28,900 that the information that he has is taking and hasn't been 288 00:14:28,900 --> 00:14:30,700 cleaned. Only passed off to somebody to 289 00:14:30,700 --> 00:14:33,000 parking lot. You know. 290 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:37,800 He did partner up with a couple celebrity journalist but it's a 291 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:39,600 big story. I mean are you going to? 292 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,500 Are you going to talk to some small fry like me to break a 293 00:14:42,508 --> 00:14:44,000 story like this? No, of course not. 294 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:45,600 You're going to get the big names out there. 295 00:14:46,500 --> 00:14:48,200 If nothing else just to protect yourself. 296 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,900 You want this story to be out there where everybody can see 297 00:14:50,900 --> 00:14:53,600 it, you know, he's already said they met, he's been retaliated 298 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:57,500 against and that retaliation claim was substantiated. 299 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:04,300 And by the way, Whistleblower, you know, organization that 300 00:15:04,300 --> 00:15:08,300 checks the step. So the guys credible to me, wait 301 00:15:08,300 --> 00:15:11,900 credible the personal references. 302 00:15:11,900 --> 00:15:13,900 Yeah. Okay whatever but just the fact 303 00:15:13,900 --> 00:15:17,800 that he can show where he's been working at, he can show what job 304 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:22,400 she had and the fact that he tried to share this information 305 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,000 with Congress first, it's a big deal to me. 306 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,400 Now if he wants to go out later to make the UFO rounds and and 307 00:15:28,500 --> 00:15:30,900 and do Speaking engagements and get paid for it. 308 00:15:30,900 --> 00:15:33,200 That's up to him. That's the entertainment part of 309 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:37,000 this where people enjoy hearing about this stuff, that's his 310 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,400 decision. But as far as him trying to 311 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:43,900 release this information and as far as his credibility, I have 312 00:15:43,900 --> 00:15:46,100 to lean toward favoring him right now. 313 00:15:46,300 --> 00:15:49,300 Although not everybody is doing that now. 314 00:15:49,500 --> 00:15:53,600 John Greenwald he made a comment here and on his on his Twitter, 315 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:58,000 he says, Leslie Khan posted a Facebook that her and Ralph blue 316 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,600 passed on. On Washington Post publishing 317 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,100 their piece about non-human origin craft, because wopo was 318 00:16:04,100 --> 00:16:06,800 taking too much time. So they went to the debrief 319 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,400 because they were under growing pressure pressure by whom ye 320 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,400 ass. That's a legitimate question was 321 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,400 a pressure because this guy felt like the Deep state was coming 322 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,400 after him, or was it a pressure to get this stuff into the new 323 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,500 cycle? Even if it was just to get into 324 00:16:21,500 --> 00:16:25,000 the new cycle, I can understand that because, you know, you want 325 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,800 the story to the reach, the maximum potential and if they 326 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,700 felt like I think it came up that was just overshadow this or 327 00:16:31,700 --> 00:16:33,900 whatever. I mean, they're professional 328 00:16:33,900 --> 00:16:35,500 journalists. They know when they need to 329 00:16:35,500 --> 00:16:38,200 release this stuff so I don't blame them there Leslie. 330 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,400 Kern current had Keen rather it had published the tweet that 331 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,900 said to be clear, the Washington Post did not pass on our story 332 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,000 Ralph and I took it to the debrief because we were under 333 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,100 growing pressure to publish it. Very quickly. 334 00:16:50,500 --> 00:16:53,000 The post needed more time and we couldn't wait. 335 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,700 Well, you know, that's on them, they went ahead and published it 336 00:16:57,700 --> 00:17:01,000 and they said that they Have done the back. 337 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:02,500 Check on it, verified everything. 338 00:17:02,900 --> 00:17:04,900 If they didn't. It'll come out and it'll be a 339 00:17:04,900 --> 00:17:06,900 big mess. But right now, it looks like 340 00:17:06,900 --> 00:17:10,800 they have their ducks in a row. Now, somebody else who raised 341 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,200 some complaints about this was Steven Greene Street. 342 00:17:13,700 --> 00:17:16,200 Now, I like a lot of his work, but he seems like he's gotten 343 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,200 more and more vicious towards some of the UFO stuff. 344 00:17:18,700 --> 00:17:21,900 I didn't realize the Steven Greene Street was actually had 345 00:17:21,900 --> 00:17:24,300 top secret. Clearance is, there's a podcast. 346 00:17:24,300 --> 00:17:28,000 He was on and I retweeted it where he talks about working for 347 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,300 an agency, where they were producing. 348 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:33,700 Propaganda basically directed toward Muslim youth to to 349 00:17:33,700 --> 00:17:37,500 encourage them, to be less hostile to the US, any and he 350 00:17:37,500 --> 00:17:39,700 revealed that he had a top secret clearance. 351 00:17:40,100 --> 00:17:44,000 That's something I think people should reveal before they get on 352 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,700 board this public discussion because if he has a top secret 353 00:17:47,900 --> 00:17:50,300 clearance then then obviously there's things that he can't 354 00:17:50,300 --> 00:17:53,600 tell us about and that could shade what he knows and what he 355 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,300 doesn't know and what he's wanting to reveal, it could it 356 00:17:56,300 --> 00:17:59,200 could very much affect the motives he has you know, toward 357 00:17:59,300 --> 00:18:01,800 Saying certain things. So I just think we should know 358 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:07,000 that now, Greece has come out and said his tweet was UFO. 359 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:11,300 Whistleblower, David Kirsch groom by deceitful UFO activist 360 00:18:11,300 --> 00:18:15,100 now you can kind of see there. He has had a real axe to grind 361 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,200 with a low of Elizondo and the whole Skinwalker crew. 362 00:18:18,500 --> 00:18:20,200 I don't know exactly what happened there. 363 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,800 If Steven Greene Street feels like he has been deceived as a 364 00:18:23,808 --> 00:18:26,200 journalist, he's really angry about any kind of damage that 365 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:30,000 could have been done to trip to his reputation, but man, he's He 366 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,700 went on a rant, he says, David Gersh claims the US government 367 00:18:33,700 --> 00:18:37,200 is in position of crashed, alien spacecraft and alien bodies. 368 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,600 This story is going viral right now. 369 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:43,300 Brian Bender, Former Defense writer for Politico, who covered 370 00:18:43,300 --> 00:18:46,700 UFOs for years, tweeted his opinion. 371 00:18:46,700 --> 00:18:50,700 That gross was groomed by dubious. 372 00:18:50,700 --> 00:18:55,300 UFO activist Louis Elizondo for several years while Lewis, 373 00:18:55,300 --> 00:18:59,200 getting beat up and 2017 Elizondo briefly. 374 00:18:59,300 --> 00:19:03,100 We reached see less celebrity status after claiming he was 375 00:19:03,100 --> 00:19:05,500 once the director of Pentagon UFO program. 376 00:19:05,900 --> 00:19:09,300 He claimed otherworldly UFOs were real and that we may not be 377 00:19:09,300 --> 00:19:11,800 alone. This kicked off a five plus 378 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,400 years of UFO Mania. Now, look, I've been pretty 379 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,900 critical of Leo myself. In fact, that posted that little 380 00:19:16,900 --> 00:19:20,700 meme on my Twitter site at warning sub UFO. 381 00:19:20,900 --> 00:19:24,300 And you know, with, with Louise picture saying, never trust an 382 00:19:24,300 --> 00:19:27,300 old man, with new ink, I did that because Lori has come out 383 00:19:27,300 --> 00:19:30,500 and said, hey, you know, there could be there Relations were 384 00:19:31,900 --> 00:19:35,000 basically your religion doesn't mean anything everything that 385 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,000 you thought you knew was wrong, and I just think that that's not 386 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,600 a cool thing to do. It could almost end still mass 387 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,300 panic, no matter what happens. That doesn't mean people have to 388 00:19:44,300 --> 00:19:46,700 change our entire belief system and just means, hey, we found 389 00:19:46,700 --> 00:19:50,500 out something new. We don't need to infer that 390 00:19:50,500 --> 00:19:52,900 everything we believed in has been erased. 391 00:19:52,900 --> 00:19:57,300 Therefore we have to look to some new UFO celebrity or some 392 00:19:57,300 --> 00:20:01,600 new deep state. Actor to tell us what to do. 393 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,700 That didn't work out the last time so well if you remember a 394 00:20:04,708 --> 00:20:06,900 particular virus that went around a couple years ago 395 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,800 walking everybody down and making people do things. 396 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,500 They didn't want to do. It's really not the American way 397 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:17,300 and as far as this UFO thing goes to just tell people that 398 00:20:17,300 --> 00:20:19,200 their whole belief system is crap. 399 00:20:19,300 --> 00:20:22,900 And that you know, we're going to give you this new information 400 00:20:22,900 --> 00:20:26,100 in this new knowledge is also not the way to do things. 401 00:20:26,100 --> 00:20:29,200 Anyway, that's my soapbox and 2017. 402 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,300 Elizondo briefly reached celebrity status after claimed. 403 00:20:33,300 --> 00:20:36,900 Silas celebrities after claiming he was once the director of a 404 00:20:36,900 --> 00:20:41,700 pentagon UFO program. It says, but that was all wrong. 405 00:20:41,700 --> 00:20:44,000 My exclusive reporting from this is green shade, of course, 406 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,700 talking for New York, Post exposes Elizondo as untruthful 407 00:20:48,100 --> 00:20:51,200 with his UFO claims. There is no evidence at all to 408 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,900 support his stories and available evidence actually 409 00:20:53,900 --> 00:20:56,200 contradicts his entire narrative. 410 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:00,600 So you can see Green Street is on Louis like a hog on rye. 411 00:21:00,900 --> 00:21:04,900 Well at political Brian Bender, was one of the first to 412 00:21:04,900 --> 00:21:10,000 credulous late report Elizondo the story in 2017 but later He 413 00:21:10,008 --> 00:21:12,400 admitted, he was purposely misled. 414 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:16,700 And his new story was written by the same UFO activist and this 415 00:21:16,700 --> 00:21:19,300 new story was with my, the Samuel activists Leslie, Kean 416 00:21:19,300 --> 00:21:22,600 and Ralph Blumenthal who wrote the original false and 417 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,900 deceptive. 2017 Elizondo story in the New York Times. 418 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:32,100 Now I did think that was a little sketchy how that video 419 00:21:32,100 --> 00:21:36,300 ended up being passed from the Pentagon to melon reportedly by 420 00:21:36,300 --> 00:21:38,800 Louis and then it ends up by the New York Times. 421 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,800 And then next time, It's all over Tom DeLonge as website with 422 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:46,200 his with his to the academy stars watermark on it. 423 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,600 That whole thing I thought was not cool. 424 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,800 Anyway it goes on and says now that L is on its claims have 425 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,500 been proven false, he has mostly disappeared from the public eye. 426 00:21:53,700 --> 00:21:56,700 I don't know if it's plaintiff claims have been proven false. 427 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,700 You know, you said a lot of stuff, a lot of it seemed pretty 428 00:22:00,700 --> 00:22:02,500 accurate to me. The thing about Louis is it's 429 00:22:02,500 --> 00:22:04,500 almost like he was blowing up his resume a little bit. 430 00:22:04,500 --> 00:22:08,700 Maybe, I don't know, but I think people forget how lazy the 431 00:22:08,700 --> 00:22:11,400 average federal She is and probably the average state 432 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,100 employee. I mean, I personally think that 433 00:22:15,100 --> 00:22:21,000 if you apply the 80/20 rule, you would find out that 20% of these 434 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,900 Federal and probably even state employees are doing 80% of the 435 00:22:24,900 --> 00:22:26,500 work. And I can tell you from what 436 00:22:26,500 --> 00:22:28,200 I've seen. Personally, a lot of these guys, 437 00:22:28,300 --> 00:22:31,400 they mostly just go and sit behind a desk all day, drink 438 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,400 coffee, hang out the water cooler. 439 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,100 And then go on trips for so-called meetings. 440 00:22:37,100 --> 00:22:39,800 I mean meeting meeting meeting. I mean, it's just one meeting. 441 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,300 Another about nothing and what they actually get done. 442 00:22:43,300 --> 00:22:45,500 At the end of the day is usually zero. 443 00:22:45,500 --> 00:22:47,900 Okay. Meanwhile probably 20% of the 444 00:22:47,908 --> 00:22:52,000 people are making the gears turn and I kind of it. 445 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,700 Almost seems to me like maybe Louis was in that 80%, where you 446 00:22:55,700 --> 00:22:58,300 just go to work, you have an office, you chill. 447 00:22:58,300 --> 00:23:01,400 Nobody really knows what you do. It's almost like a Costanza 448 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,800 situation, you know, you're shuffling papers back and forth. 449 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:10,200 I can see Lewis, l, Zonda being George Costanza, you know, Hey, 450 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,600 I passed those videos off to Christopher million independent 451 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,900 in the Pentagon parking lot, is there anything wrong with that? 452 00:23:17,100 --> 00:23:19,900 You know, that kind of attitude where these guys just go in the 453 00:23:19,900 --> 00:23:23,700 kind of exploit their position. But that doesn't that doesn't 454 00:23:23,700 --> 00:23:25,700 mean that the pictures aren't real. 455 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,600 That doesn't mean the pilots haven't seen these things. 456 00:23:28,900 --> 00:23:32,000 I mean it's only normal that if you get a guy who has a 457 00:23:32,008 --> 00:23:36,400 personality or he's a little bit on the side of things where you 458 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,800 know he's going to exploit a situation, where maybe he's not, 459 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:44,000 Not really cut out for, you know, supervising a shovel all 460 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,100 day. He seized this opportunity 461 00:23:46,100 --> 00:23:49,000 working in the bowels of the Pentagon and maybe it wasn't 462 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,900 that big of a deal. It was just some position but 463 00:23:50,900 --> 00:23:54,200 created by Harry Reid and Louis fell into it. 464 00:23:54,900 --> 00:23:56,800 That doesn't mean the stuff doesn't exist. 465 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,700 That just means that Louis made the most of what he knew about 466 00:24:00,700 --> 00:24:02,300 the situation. Okay? 467 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,900 I do believe there's some truth that what you said, probably a 468 00:24:04,900 --> 00:24:08,200 lot of truth. But I also think that he 469 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,900 probably made himself seemed Like a bigger deal than what he 470 00:24:10,900 --> 00:24:13,500 actually is. That doesn't mean that this 471 00:24:13,500 --> 00:24:18,000 latest film that came along, is being untruthful or didn't see 472 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,000 things. He claimed to see time will 473 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:26,000 tell, but you know, the story is so big that it's only natural. 474 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,600 This latest whistleblower is going to get caught up with 475 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:34,200 these UFO celebrities with these UFO, celebrity journalist, 476 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,700 because those are the people at the top of the food chain, this, 477 00:24:37,700 --> 00:24:39,400 you know, we live in a time of social. 478 00:24:39,900 --> 00:24:43,400 Works and the way you get the stories out is through a social 479 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:48,400 network and so I can't be too hard on this guy because he's 480 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,700 involved with Louis Elizondo. I don't know. 481 00:24:52,300 --> 00:24:56,800 At the very least we can say is that he did go through legal 482 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,300 channels to try to release it. He didn't pass this off off in a 483 00:24:59,300 --> 00:25:04,600 parking lot somewhere. If he's conflicted in some way 484 00:25:04,900 --> 00:25:08,200 it'll come out but he also signed a piece of paper. 485 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:12,600 Swearing his allegations It's his assertions rather under 486 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,300 penalty of perjury, that's kind of a big deal to me. 487 00:25:15,300 --> 00:25:19,800 So I feel like the guy it's being his own Liberty on the 488 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,400 line, he deserves to be heard, the story deserves some time to 489 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,000 play out and if it turns out that it's not true, then we'll 490 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,600 talk about it. If it turns out that it is true 491 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,400 and this is just one more case of the deep State hiding, the 492 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,400 evidence. Well then, I guess I can say 493 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,900 once again, I was right. But until next time, this is UFO 494 00:25:37,900 --> 00:25:39,300 morning over and out.