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Hello and welcome to the program
UFO Warning. 

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In this episode we're talking 
about Canadian pilots site 

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Triangle UFO. 
That's correct, Canadian pilots 

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site triangle UFO. 
This is very recent. 

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It's from ctvnews.cactvnews.ca. 
I'll have the links over the 

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Kofi site. 
The date on this is January 31st

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2024. 
Looks like it just came out this

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morning by 5:20 AM, 5/19 AM. 
This is weird, I know. 

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I say triangle shaped UFO. 
That's not perfect. 

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It looks to me from I listened 
to this 13 minute audio, these 

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pilots and I'll play some 
excerpts of it. 

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It looks like what's happening 
here is it's been an ongoing 

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swarm of UFOs, very bright orb 
shaped objects and they're 

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zipping around. 
It sounds like they're 

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predominately maybe keeping a 
triangle pattern and then 

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they're expanding anywhere from 
three to six orbs doing what 

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orbs do man. 
I mean in mimicking the the Big 

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Dipper, forming different 
formations, but predominantly 

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these guys are seeing them when 
they're in this triangle 

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formation. 
That's what getting their 

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attention. 
Now these airplanes are flying 

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along passenger jets, cargo 
jets, whatever, and I'm assuming

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they're in the 35 day, 50,000 
foot range and they're reporting

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these things at 50,000 foot, 
70,000 foot, 100,000 foot. 

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So they're all over. 
And you'll, I'll try to play 

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some of these excerpts here. 
What these guys are talking 

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about, these things kind of 
being an ongoing thing, they're 

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very, very weird. 
Now this article is by Daniel 

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Otis and it says early on 
January 19th several pilots 

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reported multiple lights, 
sometimes in a triangle 

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formation high above the 
Canadian prairies quote. 

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I had a company aircraft over 
Thunder Bay suggest he thinks it

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is possible. 
He thinks it possibly could be, 

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satellites and air traffic 
controller in Winnipeg told 

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aviators around 4:45 AM local 
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audioobtainedbyctvnews.ca. 
I'm certainly no expert but 

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they're moving side to side and 
then going away from each other 

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and then forming triangles and 
air. 

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Canadian pilot from Seattle, 
Winnipeg replied while flying 

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over Saskatchewan. 
It doesn't really seem like 

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they're in any type of orbit, 
but I mean I'm no expert. 

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Yeah, these guys are talking 
back and forth. 

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It's weird even how even in the 
community to pilots it seems 

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there are people who are open 
minded and there are people that

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are just straight up the bunkers
and you can really hear it in 

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the tone of voice of these guys 
talking about this thing. 

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It goes on and says yeah, it's 
quite bizarre. 

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A pilot on nearby Flare Airlines
from Vancouver to Toronto added.

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There's another six of them just
randomly in formation at a high 

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altitude at 12:00. 
Definitely not satellites, A 

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pilot on a Morning Star Air 
Express cargo flight from 

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Calgary to Toronto interjected. 
It's unlike anything I've ever 

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seen in the 15 years of night 
flying that I've done. 

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And then it has a link there. 
You can listen to this 13 minute

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clip, Definitely go to Kofi and 
click on this link. 

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I'm going to play a couple 
excerpts here, but it's amazing.

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The 13 minute The 13 minute clip
was called from 2 1/2 hours of 

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raw video downloaded from 2 
feeds at liveatc.net, a website 

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that streams and archives air 
traffic control radio, edited 

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for length. 
The original conversations 

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between pilots and air traffic 
controllers took place for 

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approximately 4:20 AM to 6:00 AM
Central Standard Time. 

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That's really cool. 
I had to check that a little bit

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more. 
Let's call it liveatc.net. 

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It goes on here. 
It says there's no active 

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airspace, military airspace, 
anything like that that we're 

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aware of an air traffic 
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I honestly have no idea what it 
might be. 

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Now I want to go ahead here and 
just play just a minute or two 

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of this when these things are 
first reported and then we'll go

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back and talk some more about 
what some of this, what's going 

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on in some of this really 
spectacular air traffic control 

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pilot conversation. 
Or 7062, go ahead. 

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Yeah. 
Is there any active military 

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airspace just like north of 
Winnipeg? 

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No, nothing, nothing I'm aware 
of, you said north of Winnipeg. 

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Yeah. 
No, not right now, OK? 

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Lots. 
Of active bright lights 

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information three and they look 
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something. 
Just trying to figure it out. 

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OK. 
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No, I I haven't heard anything. 
I'll I'll check out with the 

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next sector that that could be. 
Alrighty. 

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Then thanks for checking. 
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50,000 feet roughly, is that 
correct? 

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Yeah, it looks like it. 
I mean, it's hard to, it's hard 

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to say. 
But yeah, the yeah, it's being 

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like three to four really bright
lights and they kind of blur 

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like a triangle formation and 
then they look like they're a 

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little differ for a bit and then
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come back. 
OK. 

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Alright. 
OK. 

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Thanks for that. 
I'll, I'll just take a note, but

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yeah, I, I can't think of what 
that might be. 

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Yeah, What's that for, Kenneth? 
786-7362 aircraft, 12:00 same 

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altitude. 
Is that one ours? 

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It's a flirt flight. 
Sorry, 600. 

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Yeah. 
Tech 1076. 

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Do you see these flights? 
12:00 See something flashing 

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light? 
It's not even 3600. 

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Yeah, form a triangle. 
Then flying away and coming 

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back. 
Big bright light is coming 

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towards us. 
So the above of more than 11:00.

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Thanks for counting 7086. 
Do you have any traffic out 

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there? 
No. 

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I I had wanted a report 10 
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Flight E Virginia reported the 
same thing. 

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Her best guess was was around 
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500 and thought it might be 
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So yeah we're. 
So do you have a guess as to 

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what you might think the Alton 
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thing I I say is probably pretty
accurate but they keep forming 

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up in a triangle and then it's 
pretty odd. 

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OK yeah no that's the second 
report then. 

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And yeah there's no there's no 
active airspace military space 

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thing like that we're aware of. 
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that might be. 
Now back with this article. 

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It says there's no active 
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anything like that we're aware 
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said on January 19th. 
I honestly have no idea what 

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that might be. 
At least 4 aircraft reported 

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seeing the lights that morning, 
including flare Morningstar jets

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and two Air Canada flights. 
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well above them, as high as 
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the reach of most fighter jets. 
Two other crews also chimed in 

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to say they've recently had 
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I haven't seen them tonight, but
we've been seeing those lights 

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for probably the last 18 months 
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Just for your information, a 
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Hamilton ON to Winnipeg 
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Wow, that's interesting. 
A WestJet pilot flying from 

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Winnipeg to Toronto flight. 
I've had it, but only ever going

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westbound with three or four 
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so. 
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only westbound, the cargo jet 
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And yeah, same thing, movement 
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and square. 
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appear all over. 
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answers on that for sure, 
another pilot replied. 

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Wow, that's amazing. 
I want to go ahead and listen to

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just like another minute or two 
of this audio, just so you get 

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the feel of what these guys are 
saying here. 

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It's just, I think spectacular 
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The 1st 600 change to my 
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Do you have any any guess as to 
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might be? 
Far away? 

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591. 591 go ahead. 
Over to 591? 

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That's going to sound like a 
strange question, but. 

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We've had a few. 
Reports now of some sort of 

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flashing light somewhere over 
the Prairie, perhaps in Triangle

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safe. 
Are you by any chance seeing 

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anything like that? 
Wow, that does sound 

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interesting. 
I haven't seen it. 

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I hope I do. 
So it's that ground level or I 

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or in the air? 
I think it's. 

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At quite an altitude. 
One pilot guess may be as high 

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as 500, but others closer to 
Regina are saying they're unable

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to even give an estimate of 
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Exactly. 
It is. 

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Wow. 
OK, well, we'll definitely be 

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keeping an eye out and we'll let
you know. 

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I'm knowing that other people 
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I thought you might, yeah. 
There's a couple of reports, 

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actually 2 aircraft West of 
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they said they're having a hard 
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coming. 
From Yeah, it is really quite 

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bizarre. 
And I would have been for about 

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328. 
We saw them before. 

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I think it's just something like
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It matches the adding of the 
condition of the sun if we look 

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on the on different maps. 
Oh. 

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Scientific explanation. 
OK, good. 

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Thank you. 
That's that's a wild guess, 

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though. 
It really looks quite 

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spectacular and and weird. 
OK. 

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And you saw them back when you 
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as well? 
Yeah, we saw them started being 

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being Winnipeg and for the past 
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to move up as we move towards 
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So it might just be a reflection
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That's that's my. 
Guess OK. 

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Thank you. 
Morning Sir. 7060 did you catch 

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that I. 
Did. 

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Thank you. 3rd Canada 7086 
change to my frequency 132 niner

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bye bye. 
These six Roger head of company 

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aircraft over at Thunder Bay 
suggest he thinks it possibly 

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could be satellites and just 
based on the angle of the sun it

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could be sunlight refacting off 
those satellites and just 

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causing that. 
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experts, but they're moving side
to side and going away from each

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other forming triangles. 
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Seem like they're in. 
Orbit all. 

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Right, 600. 
Thanks, Hunter. 

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Good morning. 
And are you still? 

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Seeing those lights that you 
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Yeah, it's quite bizarre. 
There's around six of them, just

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randomly used to the formation 
flight at high altitude at 12 

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O'clock 600 OK Winnipeg Center 
for Flair 200. 

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Go ahead, just. 
Curious, when it comes to those 

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flights that you have multiple 
aircraft reporting, what report 

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do you guys have to file for 
that? 

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Usually we just tell the shift 
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with whatever reporting they do.
OK, so you're not reporting a 

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UFO then? 
Report exactly what the pilot 

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said to the shift manager, and 
then and then they'll file it as

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they do. 
Definitely not satellite. 

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Now the article has a subtitle 
here Vital Intelligence 

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Sightings says ctvnews.ca first 
became aware of the sightings 

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when a report appeared on 
January 23rd in an online 

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aviation incident database 
maintained by Transport Canada, 

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the federal transportation 
department. 

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Around 4:40 AM on January 19th. 
NORAD was alerted after several 

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flights reported multiple 
lights, sometimes in a triangle 

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formation of the Canadian 
Prairies in Saskatchewan. 

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And then it says read the 
service UFO report published 

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last night and it has all the 
links there, known as cadors. 

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We talked about them the other 
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CADORS. 
The Transport Canada database 

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contains reports on everything 
from bird strikes to unruly 

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passengers. 
It is also peppered with nearly 

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three decades of strange 
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soldiers, police officers, air 
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a bunch of people here. 
Yeah, we've mentioned this 

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before, it says. 
Transport Canada cautions that 

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such reports contain 
preliminary, unconfirmed data, 

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which can be subject to change. 
Well, you, when you're listening

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to half a dozen pilots talk 
about seeing these UFOs, 

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preliminary or not, I have to. 
It gets my attention. 

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They say reports on unidentified
objects can't really be followed

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up on as they are. 
The title implies unidentified. 

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So what you have here is just 
your basic debunking that 

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follows this. 
What would have been a really 

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great article, they did a little
bit of a cut and paste here it 

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looks like, but I'll go ahead 
and read it for you. 

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Robert Powell is a Texas based 
engineer and founding board 

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member of Scientific Coalition 
for UAP Studies, an 

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international think tank 
dedicated to applying scientific

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principles to research on an 
Unidentified Anomalous 

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phenomena, or UAP for short. 
And you can see what the you can

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see what the writer appears to 
have done here, they've just 

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kind of cut and paste some of 
the stuff directly from an older

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article into a new one. 
I don't know if this is because 

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they're lazy or if just because 
they have to, you know, they 

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have to produce so many articles
a day or a week or whatever, but

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frequently you see this when you
when you pick up these articles,

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they really write them fast. 
You can tell. 

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Now the most important thing 
about this article really is the

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is the fact that we have audio 
from these pilots. 

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Like I said, you can link to it 
from the podcast and I'm going 

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to play a little bit of it. 
But then unfortunately instead 

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of the author really deeply 
exploring what's happening here,

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he's kind of just hurdly a 
little bit of a cut and paste. 

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But I go ahead so I want you to 
be aware of that. 

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If this sounds repetitive or if 
it's something like you've heard

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before, sometimes you got to 
read through quite a bit of 

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straw to get to the real 
Nuggets. 

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Here it goes on. 
It says there was very little 

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information in the report and 
not enough to ascertain what was

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going on, Pal told CTV News, CA 
after reviewing the transport 

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candidate document. 
Based on the information 

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collected, the lights in the sky
could have been almost anything.

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Well, that's absolute nonsense. 
See how they're trying to play 

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down this UFO sighting by these 
pilots? 

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Could have been almost anything.
Well, I suppose it could have 

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been a Volkswagen then. 
I mean, what they saw were orbs.

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These orbs were doing what orbs 
do. 

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Like I said, they're flying 
around doing formations. 

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It's a classic orb sighting, but
these guys can't. 

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These guys can't bring us out 
here. 

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Here are another famous 
debunker. 

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Mick W describes himself as a 
coder, science communicator, and

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false theory debunker boy. 
He's kind of full of himself. 

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There. 
It looks like they may. 

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West firmly believes the pilots 
were seeing sunlight reflected 

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from SpaceX Starlink satellites 
on January 19th. 

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Yeah, he he pretty much knows 
everything, doesn't he? 

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Well, what they saw. 
We're not Starling satellites 

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like that, gal said. 
She said I've been flying this 

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thing for 15 years. 
She's more satellites. 

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When the sun is below the 
horizon, it can reflect off the 

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flat bottom of the Starling 
satellites for about 10 to 30 

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seconds, W told ctvnews.ca from 
California. 

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There are lots of satellites 
moving in different directions 

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and this causes the illusion of 
objects circling or forming 

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triangles. 
That sounds like some strip 

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nonsense to me. 
West, a former video game 

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programmer. 
He even created a 3D simulation 

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on satellites Earth and Sun to 
back up his conclusion. 

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Oh, for crying out loud. 
And did anybody go back and 

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check on that program? 
You know what they say. 

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Garbage in, garbage out. 
When we drop in the location and

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time for the pilot report, we 
see the Starling horizon flares 

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exactly as the pilots described 
in what I said. 

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Powell disagrees. 
Satellite flaring is momentary, 

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the UA, the UAP. 
Worsher said that is not what 

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this is. 
Well, good for him. 

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Later the same day, pilots in 
the US reported something very 

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similar, according to Memphis 
Air traffic controller audio 

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reviewed by ctvnews.ca. 
And I'm going to play a little 

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bit of that video here also, 
just give me a minute. 

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It says definitely not aliens. 
A pilot joked about 8 joked 

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before 8:30 PM on January 19th. 
We're north of Birmingham, 

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facing West, and we see a couple
multiple lights and other light 

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in exchange between several 
flight crews. 

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Do you think it's Starlink 
Negative? 

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I don't think so. 
Starlink doesn't flash. 

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Wow. 
Yeah, I see it too. 

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What are we looking at? 
Three of them in a triangle 

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formation. 
At least two other flights have 

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reported unidentified objects 
and lights over candidates so 

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far in 2024, including a January
4th sighting from Porter 

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Airlines and Ontario. 
A January 13th case involving a 

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FedEx flight off the BC coast 
has also identified at least 17 

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odd aviation reports from 2023 
and eleven more from 2022. 

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Well, maybe The thing is in 
Canada is that they're just 

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allowing these guys to report 
them. 

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Now I'm going to go ahead and 
I'm going to play a little bit 

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more of that segment of these 
Canadian pilots as they're just,

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you know, startled seeing these 
things. 

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It's amazing to me. 
UPS 104, I just got here for the

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morning, so I'm just finding out
about all the reports, but I 

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guess they've been all the way 
across the Prairies this morning

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or overnight. 
So UPS Flare 600 is tracking 

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eastbound. 
Approximately 09 or five have 

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been for the last hour. 
And at our 1130 position, we've 

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been staring at these things for
well over an hour and they're 

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high up in the sky. 
I'd say 100,000 feet plus. 

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PS104. 
That aircraft. 

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That's giving you the report is 
off your 9:00 position, about 

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125 miles going eastbound and 
Morningstar 7062. 

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I missed your comment there. 
What were you saying about the 

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lights? 
Definitely. 

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Not not a light. 
OK. 

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Thanks very much. 
I'm just talking to the 

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controllers that I've taken over
from and and I guess we'll file.

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I guess it's called a Service 
report. 

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OK. 
Yeah. 

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It's like unlike anything I've 
ever seen in like the 15 years 

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of Nightline that I've done. 
OK. 

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Thanks very much. 
Good morning to you, 644 level 

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360. 
APS64 have you want to pick 

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center. 
Good morning. 

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Are we close to these lights 
We're talking? 

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About the aircraft that's seeing
them there with the report is 

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off your 10:00 about 80 miles 
and they're going eastbound and 

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they've been tracking them for 
quite a while all. 

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Right. 
Thanks. 

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Been any activity for the last 
10 minutes from our perspective?

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Go ahead. 
The ship manager just came in 

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and they brought over their 
reports that I'm going to fill 

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out. 
So if if you don't mind, I'm 

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going to go through the 
questions with you just 'cause I

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wasn't here for the bulk of the 
the reporting. 

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Yeah, sure. 
OK. 

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First question is just a brief 
description of the sighting, 

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number, size, shape, etcetera. 
Multiple cycle Points of Light 

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will be though we we would 
describe this sometimes there 

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were three, sometimes there were
six. 

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Sometimes there's just some 
individual life just flying at a

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rectum intervals. 
There's no specific numbers, so 

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to speak. 
OK. 

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And the position of the sighted 
object or activity, I guess the 

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first time you. 
You noticed it. 

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We're flying at the 270 flying 
you found on track 3952117 ish 

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and for the most part was that 
our 12:00 or 11:00 site and it 

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looks pretty high up in the 
altitude we're getting in here 

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between the 50,000 seats ALDI 
210. 

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Zero. 
OK, that answers the next 

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question about estimated 
altitude and direction of 

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movement of the object. 
The rest of all the place at the

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times I saw three three legs in 
a triangle formation defined in 

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a random movement up and down, 
left right all over the place. 

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OK. 
The next one is speed. 

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Was it moving fast or slow or? 
Well, what we could tell, 

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they're moving at a very fast 
speed in all directions, very, 

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very high speed. 
And the last one is any observed

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identification or other 
significant information. 

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So I think that's that's all 
that we got. 

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Maybe I wish we could give more 
information, but yeah, that's 

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that's all. 
Everything that we need to cover

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right now is what we witnessed 
1300. 

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OK. 
No, that's great. 

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I will fill out the form and I 
think there was some reports 

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from the controllers that were 
working overnight there. 

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So that combined with this 
report, we'll give that to the 

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shift manager and then they'll 
send that off to North Bay. 

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Awesome. 
That's a lot there, this 100. 

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Thank you and. 
Winnipeg target at 9:37. 

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Yeah, go ahead. 
I'm going to add to that. 

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I haven't seen them tonight, but
we've been seeing those lights 

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for probably the last 18 months 
or so. 

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Just just for your information 
if you wanted to add that. 

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OK. 
I will add that. 

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And any specific area with it 
across the Prairies or? 

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Yeah, over the prairies, just 
like Flair said, always 

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eastbound and a little north of 
track kind of at the 11:00 

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position. 
It's it's kind of been in that 

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area for for quite a while. 
OK. 

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Thanks very much. 
Oh, that's interesting. 

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I've had it, but only ever go on
westbound with three or four 

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like that over the last month or
so. 

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This is West at 5:20. 
I've never seen the meets on 

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only westbound. 
And yeah, same thing too. 

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Movements all over sometimes and
make a triangle sometimes and 

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make a diamond square. 
They're bright and they 

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disappear all over. 
Sure, be nice to get answers on 

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that for sure. 
Yeah, I'll definitely make a 

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note of all that passed on. 
Now the article goes on with 

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some more of this regurgitated 
cut and paste stuff and then 

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finally it gets into some of the
transcript between ground 

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control and flight. 
And it starts off with the with 

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the ground control person saying
I'm just talking to the 

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controllers that I'm taking over
for and I guess we'll file. 

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It's called a service report. 
A Winnipeg air traffic 

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controller said toward the end 
of the January 19th recording 

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multiple different Points of 
Light would be the way we would 

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describe this. 
The flare flight from Vancouver 

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to Toronto replied in response 
to your question. 

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At times I saw three lights and 
a triangle formation just flying

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in a random movement up and 
down, left, right all over the 

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place. 
Donald Spike Cavlanch is a 

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retired Transport Canada 
surveillance pilot who also 

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spent more than two decades 
flying for the Royal Canadian 

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Air Force. 
Where is the follow up report? 

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Cavlanch question in response to
cpttwos.ca. 

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It is unacceptable that we seem 
to have a reporting system with 

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nothing at the other end and no 
system for investigation and 

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closure. 
Well, of course they don't want 

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investigation and enclosure. 
That's not what they want. 

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They want this stuff just to be 
buried somewhere. 

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They want you to know as little 
better as possible. 

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Now I'm going to play just this 
last little tiny snippet from 

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the one that happened over. 
I think it's Birmingham, AL down

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here in the southern United 
States. 

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And so far, everything is quiet 
as a mouse on this one. 

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I guess in the US we just don't 
get to know about it when when 

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our pilots see these UFOs. 
So we'll play this little 

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snippet right now. 
Like we're making lights real 

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bright left and right, really 
high intermittently and then 

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they flick the different 
direction and then go back. 

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Wherever lights located. 
We're north of Birmingham, 

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facing West. 
We see multiple multiple lights.

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We. 
Need to Starlink. 

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Negative. 
Not. 

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00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,760
I don't think so. 
Darlington. 

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Flash. 
Oh, well, yeah, you too. 

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What are we looking? 
At it's. 

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About a 300 heading. 
Off of Little Rock. 

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You got that daily? 
Probably 3939. 

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Fourteen. 
Just. 

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Started to pick up occasional 
like shot 3. 

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Six up. 
Three of them in a triangle 

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formation. 
Take video, put it on the 

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Internet. 
Now I think in that last little 

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minute or so clip it from the US
where these pilots have spotted 

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these things, you can kind of 
pick up on some of the some of 

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the depersoning, debunking some 
of the disdain that certain 

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people have for even the idea of
reporting these UFOSI mean 

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little or acknowledging them. 
And we've got a long ways to go.

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I mean here we have this 
multiple pilots in the in Canada

462
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:57,240
and the US seeing these orbs, 
seeing these things form all 

463
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,040
kinds of different formations 
dominantly triangles it sounds 

464
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,880
like and they're in an area 
that's you know, above and near 

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commercial flight pass, military
flight pass. 

466
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,240
But yet there's no concern about
this. 

467
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:15,320
So who has told, who has told 
ground control, who's told these

468
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,680
pilots, who's told the media 
that we can't be interested in 

469
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,720
these things? 
Nothing to see here. 

470
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,600
Move along. 
We really have to ask who is 

471
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,080
pulling the strings here and who
is pulling the strings of the 

472
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,120
people that are trying to pull 
our strings. 

473
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,160
Until next time, this is UFO 
Warning Over now.

