Hello and welcome to the program UFO Warning.
In this episode we're talking about Canadian pilots site
Triangle UFO. That's correct, Canadian pilots
site triangle UFO. This is very recent.
It's from ctvnews.cactvnews.ca. I'll have the links over the
Kofi site. The date on this is January 31st
2024. Looks like it just came out this
morning by 5:20 AM, 5/19 AM. This is weird, I know.
I say triangle shaped UFO. That's not perfect.
It looks to me from I listened to this 13 minute audio, these
pilots and I'll play some excerpts of it.
It looks like what's happening here is it's been an ongoing
swarm of UFOs, very bright orb shaped objects and they're
zipping around. It sounds like they're
predominately maybe keeping a triangle pattern and then
they're expanding anywhere from three to six orbs doing what
orbs do man. I mean in mimicking the the Big
Dipper, forming different formations, but predominantly
these guys are seeing them when they're in this triangle
formation. That's what getting their
attention. Now these airplanes are flying
along passenger jets, cargo jets, whatever, and I'm assuming
they're in the 35 day, 50,000 foot range and they're reporting
these things at 50,000 foot, 70,000 foot, 100,000 foot.
So they're all over. And you'll, I'll try to play
some of these excerpts here. What these guys are talking
about, these things kind of being an ongoing thing, they're
very, very weird. Now this article is by Daniel
Otis and it says early on January 19th several pilots
reported multiple lights, sometimes in a triangle
formation high above the Canadian prairies quote.
I had a company aircraft over Thunder Bay suggest he thinks it
is possible. He thinks it possibly could be,
satellites and air traffic controller in Winnipeg told
aviators around 4:45 AM local time according to
audioobtainedbyctvnews.ca. I'm certainly no expert but
they're moving side to side and then going away from each other
and then forming triangles and air.
Canadian pilot from Seattle, Winnipeg replied while flying
over Saskatchewan. It doesn't really seem like
they're in any type of orbit, but I mean I'm no expert.
Yeah, these guys are talking back and forth.
It's weird even how even in the community to pilots it seems
there are people who are open minded and there are people that
are just straight up the bunkers and you can really hear it in
the tone of voice of these guys talking about this thing.
It goes on and says yeah, it's quite bizarre.
A pilot on nearby Flare Airlines from Vancouver to Toronto added.
There's another six of them just randomly in formation at a high
altitude at 12:00. Definitely not satellites, A
pilot on a Morning Star Air Express cargo flight from
Calgary to Toronto interjected. It's unlike anything I've ever
seen in the 15 years of night flying that I've done.
And then it has a link there. You can listen to this 13 minute
clip, Definitely go to Kofi and click on this link.
I'm going to play a couple excerpts here, but it's amazing.
The 13 minute The 13 minute clip was called from 2 1/2 hours of
raw video downloaded from 2 feeds at liveatc.net, a website
that streams and archives air traffic control radio, edited
for length. The original conversations
between pilots and air traffic controllers took place for
approximately 4:20 AM to 6:00 AM Central Standard Time.
That's really cool. I had to check that a little bit
more. Let's call it liveatc.net.
It goes on here. It says there's no active
airspace, military airspace, anything like that that we're
aware of an air traffic controller set on January 19th.
I honestly have no idea what it might be.
Now I want to go ahead here and just play just a minute or two
of this when these things are first reported and then we'll go
back and talk some more about what some of this, what's going
on in some of this really spectacular air traffic control
pilot conversation. Or 7062, go ahead.
Yeah. Is there any active military
airspace just like north of Winnipeg?
No, nothing, nothing I'm aware of, you said north of Winnipeg.
Yeah. No, not right now, OK?
Lots. Of active bright lights
information three and they look like they're at like 500 or
something. Just trying to figure it out.
OK. Yeah.
No, I I haven't heard anything. I'll I'll check out with the
next sector that that could be. Alrighty.
Then thanks for checking. And and you said around around
50,000 feet roughly, is that correct?
Yeah, it looks like it. I mean, it's hard to, it's hard
to say. But yeah, the yeah, it's being
like three to four really bright lights and they kind of blur
like a triangle formation and then they look like they're a
little differ for a bit and then they disappear and then they
come back. OK.
Alright. OK.
Thanks for that. I'll, I'll just take a note, but
yeah, I, I can't think of what that might be.
Yeah, What's that for, Kenneth? 786-7362 aircraft, 12:00 same
altitude. Is that one ours?
It's a flirt flight. Sorry, 600.
Yeah. Tech 1076.
Do you see these flights? 12:00 See something flashing
light? It's not even 3600.
Yeah, form a triangle. Then flying away and coming
back. Big bright light is coming
towards us. So the above of more than 11:00.
Thanks for counting 7086. Do you have any traffic out
there? No.
I I had wanted a report 10 minutes ago from a morning star
Flight E Virginia reported the same thing.
Her best guess was was around somewhere around flight level
500 and thought it might be somewhere north of of Winnipeg.
So yeah we're. So do you have a guess as to
what you might think the Alton is hard to tell because the
thing I I say is probably pretty accurate but they keep forming
up in a triangle and then it's pretty odd.
OK yeah no that's the second report then.
And yeah there's no there's no active airspace military space
thing like that we're aware of. I honestly have no idea what
that might be. Now back with this article.
It says there's no active airspace, military airspace,
anything like that we're aware of, an air traffic controller
said on January 19th. I honestly have no idea what
that might be. At least 4 aircraft reported
seeing the lights that morning, including flare Morningstar jets
and two Air Canada flights. They estimated the lights were
well above them, as high as 100,000 feet, which is beyond
the reach of most fighter jets. Two other crews also chimed in
to say they've recently had similar sightings over Canada.
I haven't seen them tonight, but we've been seeing those lights
for probably the last 18 months or so.
Just for your information, a pilot on a cargo jet flight from
Hamilton ON to Winnipeg reported.
Wow, that's interesting. A WestJet pilot flying from
Winnipeg to Toronto flight. I've had it, but only ever going
westbound with three or four like that over the last month or
so. I've never seen them eastbound,
only westbound, the cargo jet added.
And yeah, same thing, movement all over.
Sometimes they make a triangle, sometimes they make a diamond
and square. They're bright and they just
appear all over. Should be nice to get some
answers on that for sure, another pilot replied.
Wow, that's amazing. I want to go ahead and listen to
just like another minute or two of this audio, just so you get
the feel of what these guys are saying here.
It's just, I think spectacular and.
The 1st 600 change to my frequency 1329.
Do you have any any guess as to how far away off your 12:00 day
might be? Far away?
591. 591 go ahead. Over to 591?
That's going to sound like a strange question, but.
We've had a few. Reports now of some sort of
flashing light somewhere over the Prairie, perhaps in Triangle
safe. Are you by any chance seeing
anything like that? Wow, that does sound
interesting. I haven't seen it.
I hope I do. So it's that ground level or I
or in the air? I think it's.
At quite an altitude. One pilot guess may be as high
as 500, but others closer to Regina are saying they're unable
to even give an estimate of where.
Exactly. It is.
Wow. OK, well, we'll definitely be
keeping an eye out and we'll let you know.
I'm knowing that other people have seen it as well.
I thought you might, yeah. There's a couple of reports,
actually 2 aircraft West of Regina are reporting it, but
they said they're having a hard time guessing even where it's
coming. From Yeah, it is really quite
bizarre. And I would have been for about
328. We saw them before.
I think it's just something like with respect and from the sun.
It matches the adding of the condition of the sun if we look
on the on different maps. Oh.
Scientific explanation. OK, good.
Thank you. That's that's a wild guess,
though. It really looks quite
spectacular and and weird. OK.
And you saw them back when you were in the gas on Manitoba area
as well? Yeah, we saw them started being
being Winnipeg and for the past I guess hour or so and it seems
to move up as we move towards the as well.
So it might just be a reflection of sun and sunlight.
That's that's my. Guess OK.
Thank you. Morning Sir. 7060 did you catch
that I. Did.
Thank you. 3rd Canada 7086 change to my frequency 132 niner
bye bye. These six Roger head of company
aircraft over at Thunder Bay suggest he thinks it possibly
could be satellites and just based on the angle of the sun it
could be sunlight refacting off those satellites and just
causing that. I mean, I'm certainly no
experts, but they're moving side to side and going away from each
other forming triangles. But it doesn't really.
Seem like they're in. Orbit all.
Right, 600. Thanks, Hunter.
Good morning. And are you still?
Seeing those lights that you were reporting earlier.
Yeah, it's quite bizarre. There's around six of them, just
randomly used to the formation flight at high altitude at 12
O'clock 600 OK Winnipeg Center for Flair 200.
Go ahead, just. Curious, when it comes to those
flights that you have multiple aircraft reporting, what report
do you guys have to file for that?
Usually we just tell the shift manager and then they follow up
with whatever reporting they do. OK, so you're not reporting a
UFO then? Report exactly what the pilot
said to the shift manager, and then and then they'll file it as
they do. Definitely not satellite.
Now the article has a subtitle here Vital Intelligence
Sightings says ctvnews.ca first became aware of the sightings
when a report appeared on January 23rd in an online
aviation incident database maintained by Transport Canada,
the federal transportation department.
Around 4:40 AM on January 19th. NORAD was alerted after several
flights reported multiple lights, sometimes in a triangle
formation of the Canadian Prairies in Saskatchewan.
And then it says read the service UFO report published
last night and it has all the links there, known as cadors.
We talked about them the other day.
CADORS. The Transport Canada database
contains reports on everything from bird strikes to unruly
passengers. It is also peppered with nearly
three decades of strange sightings from civilians,
soldiers, police officers, air traffic controllers and at least
a bunch of people here. Yeah, we've mentioned this
before, it says. Transport Canada cautions that
such reports contain preliminary, unconfirmed data,
which can be subject to change. Well, you, when you're listening
to half a dozen pilots talk about seeing these UFOs,
preliminary or not, I have to. It gets my attention.
They say reports on unidentified objects can't really be followed
up on as they are. The title implies unidentified.
So what you have here is just your basic debunking that
follows this. What would have been a really
great article, they did a little bit of a cut and paste here it
looks like, but I'll go ahead and read it for you.
Robert Powell is a Texas based engineer and founding board
member of Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies, an
international think tank dedicated to applying scientific
principles to research on an Unidentified Anomalous
phenomena, or UAP for short. And you can see what the you can
see what the writer appears to have done here, they've just
kind of cut and paste some of the stuff directly from an older
article into a new one. I don't know if this is because
they're lazy or if just because they have to, you know, they
have to produce so many articles a day or a week or whatever, but
frequently you see this when you when you pick up these articles,
they really write them fast. You can tell.
Now the most important thing about this article really is the
is the fact that we have audio from these pilots.
Like I said, you can link to it from the podcast and I'm going
to play a little bit of it. But then unfortunately instead
of the author really deeply exploring what's happening here,
he's kind of just hurdly a little bit of a cut and paste.
But I go ahead so I want you to be aware of that.
If this sounds repetitive or if it's something like you've heard
before, sometimes you got to read through quite a bit of
straw to get to the real Nuggets.
Here it goes on. It says there was very little
information in the report and not enough to ascertain what was
going on, Pal told CTV News, CA after reviewing the transport
candidate document. Based on the information
collected, the lights in the sky could have been almost anything.
Well, that's absolute nonsense. See how they're trying to play
down this UFO sighting by these pilots?
Could have been almost anything. Well, I suppose it could have
been a Volkswagen then. I mean, what they saw were orbs.
These orbs were doing what orbs do.
Like I said, they're flying around doing formations.
It's a classic orb sighting, but these guys can't.
These guys can't bring us out here.
Here are another famous debunker.
Mick W describes himself as a coder, science communicator, and
false theory debunker boy. He's kind of full of himself.
There. It looks like they may.
West firmly believes the pilots were seeing sunlight reflected
from SpaceX Starlink satellites on January 19th.
Yeah, he he pretty much knows everything, doesn't he?
Well, what they saw. We're not Starling satellites
like that, gal said. She said I've been flying this
thing for 15 years. She's more satellites.
When the sun is below the horizon, it can reflect off the
flat bottom of the Starling satellites for about 10 to 30
seconds, W told ctvnews.ca from California.
There are lots of satellites moving in different directions
and this causes the illusion of objects circling or forming
triangles. That sounds like some strip
nonsense to me. West, a former video game
programmer. He even created a 3D simulation
on satellites Earth and Sun to back up his conclusion.
Oh, for crying out loud. And did anybody go back and
check on that program? You know what they say.
Garbage in, garbage out. When we drop in the location and
time for the pilot report, we see the Starling horizon flares
exactly as the pilots described in what I said.
Powell disagrees. Satellite flaring is momentary,
the UA, the UAP. Worsher said that is not what
this is. Well, good for him.
Later the same day, pilots in the US reported something very
similar, according to Memphis Air traffic controller audio
reviewed by ctvnews.ca. And I'm going to play a little
bit of that video here also, just give me a minute.
It says definitely not aliens. A pilot joked about 8 joked
before 8:30 PM on January 19th. We're north of Birmingham,
facing West, and we see a couple multiple lights and other light
in exchange between several flight crews.
Do you think it's Starlink Negative?
I don't think so. Starlink doesn't flash.
Wow. Yeah, I see it too.
What are we looking at? Three of them in a triangle
formation. At least two other flights have
reported unidentified objects and lights over candidates so
far in 2024, including a January 4th sighting from Porter
Airlines and Ontario. A January 13th case involving a
FedEx flight off the BC coast has also identified at least 17
odd aviation reports from 2023 and eleven more from 2022.
Well, maybe The thing is in Canada is that they're just
allowing these guys to report them.
Now I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to play a little bit
more of that segment of these Canadian pilots as they're just,
you know, startled seeing these things.
It's amazing to me. UPS 104, I just got here for the
morning, so I'm just finding out about all the reports, but I
guess they've been all the way across the Prairies this morning
or overnight. So UPS Flare 600 is tracking
eastbound. Approximately 09 or five have
been for the last hour. And at our 1130 position, we've
been staring at these things for well over an hour and they're
high up in the sky. I'd say 100,000 feet plus.
PS104. That aircraft.
That's giving you the report is off your 9:00 position, about
125 miles going eastbound and Morningstar 7062.
I missed your comment there. What were you saying about the
lights? Definitely.
Not not a light. OK.
Thanks very much. I'm just talking to the
controllers that I've taken over from and and I guess we'll file.
I guess it's called a Service report.
OK. Yeah.
It's like unlike anything I've ever seen in like the 15 years
of Nightline that I've done. OK.
Thanks very much. Good morning to you, 644 level
360. APS64 have you want to pick
center. Good morning.
Are we close to these lights We're talking?
About the aircraft that's seeing them there with the report is
off your 10:00 about 80 miles and they're going eastbound and
they've been tracking them for quite a while all.
Right. Thanks.
Been any activity for the last 10 minutes from our perspective?
Go ahead. The ship manager just came in
and they brought over their reports that I'm going to fill
out. So if if you don't mind, I'm
going to go through the questions with you just 'cause I
wasn't here for the bulk of the the reporting.
Yeah, sure. OK.
First question is just a brief description of the sighting,
number, size, shape, etcetera. Multiple cycle Points of Light
will be though we we would describe this sometimes there
were three, sometimes there were six.
Sometimes there's just some individual life just flying at a
rectum intervals. There's no specific numbers, so
to speak. OK.
And the position of the sighted object or activity, I guess the
first time you. You noticed it.
We're flying at the 270 flying you found on track 3952117 ish
and for the most part was that our 12:00 or 11:00 site and it
looks pretty high up in the altitude we're getting in here
between the 50,000 seats ALDI 210.
Zero. OK, that answers the next
question about estimated altitude and direction of
movement of the object. The rest of all the place at the
times I saw three three legs in a triangle formation defined in
a random movement up and down, left right all over the place.
OK. The next one is speed.
Was it moving fast or slow or? Well, what we could tell,
they're moving at a very fast speed in all directions, very,
very high speed. And the last one is any observed
identification or other significant information.
So I think that's that's all that we got.
Maybe I wish we could give more information, but yeah, that's
that's all. Everything that we need to cover
right now is what we witnessed 1300.
OK. No, that's great.
I will fill out the form and I think there was some reports
from the controllers that were working overnight there.
So that combined with this report, we'll give that to the
shift manager and then they'll send that off to North Bay.
Awesome. That's a lot there, this 100.
Thank you and. Winnipeg target at 9:37.
Yeah, go ahead. I'm going to add to that.
I haven't seen them tonight, but we've been seeing those lights
for probably the last 18 months or so.
Just just for your information if you wanted to add that.
OK. I will add that.
And any specific area with it across the Prairies or?
Yeah, over the prairies, just like Flair said, always
eastbound and a little north of track kind of at the 11:00
position. It's it's kind of been in that
area for for quite a while. OK.
Thanks very much. Oh, that's interesting.
I've had it, but only ever go on westbound with three or four
like that over the last month or so.
This is West at 5:20. I've never seen the meets on
only westbound. And yeah, same thing too.
Movements all over sometimes and make a triangle sometimes and
make a diamond square. They're bright and they
disappear all over. Sure, be nice to get answers on
that for sure. Yeah, I'll definitely make a
note of all that passed on. Now the article goes on with
some more of this regurgitated cut and paste stuff and then
finally it gets into some of the transcript between ground
control and flight. And it starts off with the with
the ground control person saying I'm just talking to the
controllers that I'm taking over for and I guess we'll file.
It's called a service report. A Winnipeg air traffic
controller said toward the end of the January 19th recording
multiple different Points of Light would be the way we would
describe this. The flare flight from Vancouver
to Toronto replied in response to your question.
At times I saw three lights and a triangle formation just flying
in a random movement up and down, left, right all over the
place. Donald Spike Cavlanch is a
retired Transport Canada surveillance pilot who also
spent more than two decades flying for the Royal Canadian
Air Force. Where is the follow up report?
Cavlanch question in response to cpttwos.ca.
It is unacceptable that we seem to have a reporting system with
nothing at the other end and no system for investigation and
closure. Well, of course they don't want
investigation and enclosure. That's not what they want.
They want this stuff just to be buried somewhere.
They want you to know as little better as possible.
Now I'm going to play just this last little tiny snippet from
the one that happened over. I think it's Birmingham, AL down
here in the southern United States.
And so far, everything is quiet as a mouse on this one.
I guess in the US we just don't get to know about it when when
our pilots see these UFOs. So we'll play this little
snippet right now. Like we're making lights real
bright left and right, really high intermittently and then
they flick the different direction and then go back.
Wherever lights located. We're north of Birmingham,
facing West. We see multiple multiple lights.
We. Need to Starlink.
Negative. Not.
I don't think so. Darlington.
Flash. Oh, well, yeah, you too.
What are we looking? At it's.
About a 300 heading. Off of Little Rock.
You got that daily? Probably 3939.
Fourteen. Just.
Started to pick up occasional like shot 3.
Six up. Three of them in a triangle
formation. Take video, put it on the
Internet. Now I think in that last little
minute or so clip it from the US where these pilots have spotted
these things, you can kind of pick up on some of the some of
the depersoning, debunking some of the disdain that certain
people have for even the idea of reporting these UFOSI mean
little or acknowledging them. And we've got a long ways to go.
I mean here we have this multiple pilots in the in Canada
and the US seeing these orbs, seeing these things form all
kinds of different formations dominantly triangles it sounds
like and they're in an area that's you know, above and near
commercial flight pass, military flight pass.
But yet there's no concern about this.
So who has told, who has told ground control, who's told these
pilots, who's told the media that we can't be interested in
these things? Nothing to see here.
Move along. We really have to ask who is
pulling the strings here and who is pulling the strings of the
people that are trying to pull our strings.
Until next time, this is UFO Warning Over now.