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Hello and welcome to the 
podcast, you have a warning in 

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this episode, we're looking at 
Ryan Graves and his UFO 

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encounter. 
That's correct, Ryan Graves, and

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as UFO encounter, now a lot of 
you probably already know that 

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Ryan Graves is the X and Navy 
fighter pilot that has testified

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about his UFO encounters. 
It's been on a couple podcast 

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and it made the news again this 
week with Joe Rogan. 

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And he's also apparently has a 
new job. 

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Job title, we will get into that
in just a minute, but I want to 

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go back on your from the 
beginning. 

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This article is from May 18, 20,
22, just a few months ago, it's 

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from foxnews.com UFO. 
Hearing X, Navy fighter pilot 

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Ryan Graves describes shapes 
sighs. 

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I'm just curious objects. 
Says Congress held first hearing

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on UFOs and fifty years. 
Tuesday, and experts warn. 

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They could pose a real national 
security threat. 

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Now, this is the that hearing it
took place. 

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Sore back and what March of the 
early this year and they were 

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talking about UFOs and the 
possible National Security, the 

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security threat, they could pose
a nation and whether or not 

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these things were from, you 
know, a foreign actor or a 

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really foreign actors such as an
off Planet. 

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It says, former Navy, pilot Ryan
Graves Tuesday warned that 

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regular UFO, sightings are 
endangering the lives of 

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military aviators. 
Describe the shape of 

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unidentified aerial phenomena, 
seen by members of his Squadron 

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and said, the mysterious objects
must be treated like a foreign 

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adversaries. 
I have to tell you my opinion. 

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That's a lot of assumptions 
right there. 

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This kind of gives you an idea 
of what their what their mindset

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is. 
And these guys are fighter 

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pilots. 
So they're sent up there to 

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destroy stuff. 
They see something they don't 

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recognize. 
It's almost like their First 

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Reactions not to make contact 
with it, but make dust out of 

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it. 
It says, Graves made the 

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comments outside a house 
intelligence subcommittee, 

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hearing Tuesday on UAP. 
The first of its kind examining 

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mysterious flying objects. 
Since the 1960s, deputy director

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of Naval intelligence, Scott 
Brewer, and under secretary of 

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defense, for intelligence and 
security, Ron Moultrie, brief 

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lawmakers on the increasingly on
the increasingly frequent. 

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Sightings The Pentagon official,
said not all of the sightings 

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can be explained and that you AP
have resulted in at least 11 

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near misses with U.s. military 
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Now, they're calm is a near Miss
But that's making the assumption

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that these objects that they're 
seeing are solid. 

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In the way that we think of 
something being solid. 

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We don't really know what would 
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If an airplane collided with one
of these, what it just cut 

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through this thing like a ghost.
Or would it result in this 

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airplane being just completely 
dissolved? 

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We don't know. 
It says we have a, we have 

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nearly a magnitude more clothes 
are Collegian Potential from our

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aviators from these objects then
Where initially suspected at 

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grape said of an increased 
reporting of UAP sighting by 

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pilots in recent years. 
So from my perspective, getting 

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energy on this is simply just 
going to save lives at the end 

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of the day for our Navy 
operators and at the end of the 

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day, we have a mystery to solve.
You can see they've already made

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some assumptions here, they have
a mate. 

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This assumption that these 
things have not come in peace or

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have not come just as observers.
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these things as threats. 
The problem with I have with mr.

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Games assessment is even if they
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Putting our weapons up against 
these things would be suicide. 

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It would be, it would be kind of
along the lines of when those 

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first colonists us first 
European explorers came to the 

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new world with cannons and 
muskets the natives who only had

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bows and arrows and clubs didn't
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Yeah, they might get in a kill 
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is that gunpowder and steel were
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these things that they've got 
the technology to make it from 

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wherever they're at whether 
that's across the Galaxy or From

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Another Dimension. 
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just that just shows us that the
weapon systems that they have 

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are going to be so Advanced 
that, it would be suicidal for 

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us to try to attack them. 
Secondly, if these things, I 

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don't think they're worried 
about it about it about a 

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mid-air Collision, okay? 
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Navy. 
Here is hitting the panic button

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a little bit. 
I think these things have been 

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around a lot longer than the 
last 10, 15, 20 years, we have 

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reports of these things going 
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So, to think that they've just 
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15 or 20 years. 
It's a I think it's a little bit

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presumptuous on our part. 
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He says, Tuesday's comments were
not Graves first time addressing

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you a piece is Items in the 
media and previous appearances, 

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on 60 Minutes, grave said that 
he often detected UAP on his 

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f-18s, instruments. 
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regularly saw objects while 
flying Graves added Tuesday that

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you A's would sometimes fly 
right between aircraft in 

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formation. 
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going clear, back to World War 2
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Fighters. 
Okay, so these things have been 

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around for a very long time. 
It says, the people in our 

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Squadron did See them. 
They would describe them as 

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simply a dark gray or dark black
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A clear sphere and about 15. 
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set. 
This is a, this is a UFO shape, 

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maybe not typically, but this is
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you know, multiple times by 
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This Cube shape sometimes this 
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sometimes this black cube is 
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clear sphere and that's what 
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He says a 2020 2021 report. 
I redacted classified version. 

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That means all the good parts of
blacked out which was published 

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by the black v earlier this 
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So the government reached 100 
recorded, 144 reports from 2004 

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to 2020 2020. 21 it Including 80
that involved observation with 

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multiple sensors, the report was
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Also included information on 
common shapes of you ap's, 

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although the entire sections on 
the shapes are redacted so much 

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for transparency. 
Now, we know we've talked about 

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this before on the podcast how 
the Navy has has recorded 

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sightings where these things 
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Now by fighter pilots by 
satellite imagery, And by people

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on the ground. 
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you have, you have military or 
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you have, you have fighter 
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satellite recording. 
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those aren't going to come up 
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Secondly as far as not recording
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just because their own disbelief
but if you've been investigating

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the UFO phenomenon for very 
long, you know these things come

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and all kinds of shapes and 
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and size will change while 
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That's what makes these this 
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And so unique, is the 
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So, So that the fact that they 
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laws of physics that should come
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It goes on here. 
It says, the government has said

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that you AP probably lack a 
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classified or unclassified 
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far, rule out space, aliens, but
other possible explanations are 

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airborne clutter like birds and 
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Now, when they throw in these 
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balloons. 
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the soul that 20-foot tall black
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He knows that that's not a bird 
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If you've seen a UFO, it within 
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distance, then, you know that 
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fact, even if we see some of 
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know the triangle lights or 
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sky. 
They may be some sort of deep 

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state. 
Deep secret project. 

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But clearly not Bloons, not 
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He goes on and says, but other 
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airborne clutter like birds of 
balloons, natural atmospheric 

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phenomena like Ice Crystal, 
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programs or foreign adversaries 
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other countries. 
I've said this a hundred times 

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if you, I can't understand how a
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for a minute. 
'it, How could you believe that 

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those Nations could possess this
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That's these UFOs demonstrate. 
If they had those things, then 

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please explain to me why Taiwan 
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totally dissolved at this point.
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technology in the hands of 
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We didn't have the atom bomb for
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dropped one. 
That's just not the way people 

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work. 
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these sightings probably are at 
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they are, a probably are some 
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stuff when you get into the real
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these cubes, you know, contained
within within these clear 

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spheres, when you get into these
orbs, that are doing all kinds 

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of wild wacky stuff, this isn't 
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that don't even conform to the 
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gone beyond the Deep State 
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Says, at the end of the day, we 
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We have to treat it. 
Like it's a foreign adversary. 

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There's no other option. 
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I don't like this. 
I don't like the notion here 

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that were being funneled into 
making a choice between doing it

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their way or the highway. 
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third option, fourth option, 
fifth option but could do what 

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people have been doing for, I 
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thousand years, at least, and 
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You know, you have things that 
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That were talked about in every 
ancient texts that we know about

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from the Bible to, you know, 
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to ancient Chinese, writings 
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these things have been around 
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And at least the old-timers, had
enough sense, not to throw rocks

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at them. 
No, we don't have to treat these

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things as an adversary pretty 
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it was, if it was within their 
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this planet, they would have 
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Now, as far as I'm concerned, if
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Graves wants to take some of 
that energy into investigating 

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how to protect ourselves against
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They can start with the cattle 
mutilations because there's 

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stuff that we do. 
See it's happening. 

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That's - that is not explainable
by human means that We could use

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some help with those on. 
It says our ability to modulate 

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and control. 
What comes out of our aircraft 

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is very important and so if 
you're seeing objects out there 

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that are either not transmitting
or are transmitting, there's 

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valuable intelligence we can 
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Mike Gallagher Republican, 
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Agreed with Graves that the 
security of American pilots and 

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the American Homeland needs to 
be a focus when dealing with you

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AP anytime you. 
Have something fouling arranged 

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is certainly a threat to our 
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safety issue. 
Galagos told Fox News outside a 

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classified briefing, the fall of
the Tuesday hearing I'm not 

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willing to say it's a it's a 
dramatic that to Homeland 

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Security at this point, but it's
something we need to take 

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seriously, of course. 
Well, they're looking at this 

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from the human perspective that 
this is that these are our skies

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that we Patrol them. 
We take care of them. 

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What if these things have been 
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What if whatever is producing 
this phenomena? 

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What if their attitude is Who 
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Humans we've been around here, 
when you guys were trying to 

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figure out how to make a wheel. 
What if these things have been 

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around here for 10, 20, 30 40 50
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What if they look at us is the 
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They might consider that as one 
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they're telling us that we only 
have one choice to make and 

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light of in light of the, what I
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existential. 
Cop, Petition. 

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We are in with China right now. 
I mean, this is a technological 

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competition. 
We have to take that seriously. 

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Y'all are continued and our 
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interrogate Basics is scientific
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broader ability to win that 
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with the Chinese Communist 
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Okay, please give me a break. 
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The China isn't capable of 
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chips. 
The Are Advanced enough to do 

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what needs to be done. 
This is part of this whole fight

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back and forth with Taiwan. 
We know that China is not that 

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advanced, okay? 
They've just only recently, have

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they been able to copy our 
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It's sufficiently enough to 
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What? 
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carrier. 
China is in no way. 

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This far ahead of the game, not 
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Now, that article ends there and
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another article that came up 
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This is from, I believe October 
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Gerard kianga, and the title 
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describes weird Black Cube that 
flew past flight team. 

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I think it's articles based on a
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says Former US Navy. 
Pilot Ryan Graves gave a 

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detailed description of 
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Head had with a black box UFO. 
They were seeing everyday 

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appearing on the latest episode 
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Podcast, grave. 
Spoke about what a pipe about 

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what a pilot who saw the 
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podcast began. 
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in the history with the Navy 
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and aerospace engineering after 
graduating from What you want on

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to fly f-18s for the Navy, he 
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repeatedly witnessed a strange 
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equipment, as well as with their
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In late 2013. 
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these objects by I and also on 
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upgrades to their aircraft. 
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every day. 
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exercises. 
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these things have been around 
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But it's just that people are 
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about them, and I would also 
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several UFO cases that, we've 
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where there have been has been 
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It goes on and says in June, 
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commissioning a study team to 
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observations of events and the 
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aircraft are no natural 
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perspective. 
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expected in the spring of 2023. 
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I expect very little from the 
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blacked out pages on his 
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We're going to ask Graves, 
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having any idea, what these 
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Our are out there to a to an 
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them every day. 
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How are you feeling? 
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thought pattern of how you are 
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He says, initially you're 
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When when do you start getting a
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is Reagan said Grace replied. 
The question arose about what 

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these UFOs war after it pilot. 
I first saw one of them so I 

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think it's important to note 
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We're talking about the Navy, 
having guiding having gotten an 

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upgraded radar system. 
So maybe these things were 

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showing up on radar when they 
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So once it shows up on the 
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obligated to investigate the 
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the things they actually see 
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So now all of a sudden it's 
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influx of UFOs. 
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were here the whole time. 
What's happened is before The 

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Radars were upgraded? 
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whatever they were didn't show 
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it didn't show up on the radar, 
nobody had to admit that, they 

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saw them. 
Pretty convenient. 

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But now as part of this radar 
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are going through their flights 
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missions or whatever they're 
doing bleah bleah bleah, the 

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radar pings on. 
Now, they're obligated to find 

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out what this is. 
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those super Advanced. 
Chinese drones were always 

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hearing about got to make sure 
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get onto the Target and he 
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Rogan podcast. 
Cash, you can watch it. 

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He says how once they lock onto 
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the airplane are focused on that
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headed toward these sayings. 
Now they've got radar evidence, 

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they've got the confirmation 
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And the whole time they're 
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taking video and then pretty 
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You know, just after the video 
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time, then they're able to make 
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Not that they can identify, but 
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So suddenly they have all this 
evidence radar video eyewitness 

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account and it's pretty hard. 
It's just Well, that was a 

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weather balloon. 
Now, before 2013 before all this

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upgraded radar equipment was 
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It was just very easy to say, 
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got four, five, six, eight years
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education. 
Yeah, I know he had to go 

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through all this training and we
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know. 
Half a million dollars to 

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training for this job. 
Yeah I knew it cost. 

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Thousand dollars an hour to fly 
this airplane. 

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But, you know, maybe he just saw
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So what's happened is? 
The technology is finally 

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catching up with the eyewitness 
accounts and where we wouldn't 

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believe a human before. 
Now we're forced to believe that

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human because the technology 
such there is a second, third 

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fourth eyewitness. 
That's what you're really see 

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happening. 
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It says there were two aircraft 
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off in a fly to, to he said, 
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a formation. 
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the other, as they as they hit 
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went right behind. 
But right between their aircraft

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Graves continued, the lead pilot
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The second pilot did not, which 
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are usually very focused on 
flying formation. 

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The lead, really The lead really
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He saw it, and he immediately 
came back detailing. 

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What the pilot saw, grave said, 
he came back and said, hey, I 

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almost hit one of those damn 
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We all knew what he was 
referring to, even though we 

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didn't necessarily have a name 
for it just because we were 

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seeing them so much. 
So what I see here is not that 

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he almost hit one of his sayings
honestly from all the, you know,

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No dozens upon dozens of 
accounts that I've read, and 

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even personal experience, I 
don't think this he was ever, in

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danger, hitting this thing. 
I think these things move so 

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fast and they moving in and out 
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such ease that. 
I don't think that was ever the 

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issue. 
If anything, I think these 

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things recognized that they had 
been spotted by humans and it 

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seems like a lot of times soon 
as these things, know that 

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there's a human watching. 
Them, you immediately end up 

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with this observation effect, 
where sometimes it changes 

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states that changes locations, 
sometimes it's almost like it 

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wants to interact with the 
human. 

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I don't know you kind I guess 
sometimes you got to be careful 

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when you poke the bear goes on 
and says He described it, he 

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said it was black or it was a 
black or dark gray Cube. 

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And that Cube was inside a 
clear, translucent sphere 

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essentially he corners or 
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Apex of that Cube, especially 
that he could tell, were 

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touching the inside of that 
sphere Graves admitted that the 

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mystery surrounding the UFOs did
not mean that aliens are 

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something Supernatural, or 
Involved. 

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Well, if it wasn't aliens, if it
wasn't Supernatural, I guess my 

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Supernatural. 
You can mean everything from 

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interdimensional to demonic to 
angelic. 

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Then, are you saying that it was
human-made? 

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Because I don't believe for one 
second that this, that the 

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Russians, or the Chinese are 
anywhere close to being able to 

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make something like that. 
Because on it says, the high 

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probability answer was this was 
some kind of classified program 

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of our own making that we had 
started operating in an area. 

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They were not supposed to be, 
there were not supposed to you, 

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for whatever reason, grave said,
Now, I'm sorry, I'm sure, mr. 

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Graves is a very smart man and 
I'm sure he's an excellent, 

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excellent pilot but in my 
opinion, that answer is idiotic.

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Because think about it. 
You you do to fly into 

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mechanical airplane, you're 
seeing a black Square suspended 

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inside a clear sphere flying at 
Hypersonic speeds doing 

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Maneuvers that are impossible 
that that are physically 

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impossible, violates all the 
laws of known physics and yet 

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you're trying to tell me that 
that's one of our top secret 

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programs. 
Based on how I've seen 

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governments in general across 
the world act, especially the 

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last couple of years with the 
flu virus. 

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Let's call it I don't believe 
that for one second if some 

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select group of humans had at 
their disposal, this kind of 

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technology that any of us would 
be anything more than slaves 

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right now. 
Slaves if we were lucky. 

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So, in my opinion and I think 
this should just be obvious to 

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anybody when you consider Human 
Nature. think about that, when 

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you consider Human Nature, What 
are the odds that if one tiny 

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select group of people possess 
the kind of technology that 

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could Propel a 20 foot square 
Black Cube contained in a clear 

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sphere through the sky at 
Hypersonic speeds. 

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Stop on a dime. 
Make a right angle, turn do all 

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these crazy things. 
Violate every known law of 

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physics. 
If they had the power to do 

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that, Do you think they would 
actually leave us alone? 

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I that's, that's that, that 
that's the craziest thing to me.

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I just crazy. 
It was on his says, It was due 

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to us, almost. 
He continued that was kind of 

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our assumption. 
We submitted a safety report 

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because that near mid-air 
Collision a has rep a hazard 

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report. 
This is essentially a notice 

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that goes out to the whole Fleet
that says, this is a potential 

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Hazard that can cause a loss of 
aircraft, it was due to us, 

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almost hitting an unknown object
of Unknown Origin and, and that 

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is how it continued for a while.
There were a number of has 

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reports about it, grief said, 
Well, so that was basically the 

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extra they have in the rugged 
report and then there was one 

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more thing here. 
So there you have the background

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of Ryan Graves had this, I would
call it more than a siding with 

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the UFO to me that is a 
full-blown encounter, okay? 

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And it seems like his 
perspective coming from it is 

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that he views these things as 
adversary. 

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What's important was opinion is 
because it's this article comes 

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to us from politico.com and this
just came Came out, I think last

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week, the title says, new 
territory, America's top 

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Aerospace sluice. 
Join UFO hunt, the country's 

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largest organization of 
technical. 

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Experts, has concluded that 
recent incursions pose a safety 

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hazard to aircraft. 
Now, do you see the change in 

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narrative here? 
Good cop, bad cop. 

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At first, the UFOs if you saw 
them and if you thought they 

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were real you were just tin foil
hat, wearing conspiracy nut. 

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Now the official narrative, a 
narrative is becoming that these

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things are dangerous and we need
to protect you from them. 

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It says, the articles by Brian 
Bender that in nineteen, twenty 

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twenty two. 
So it's just about a week old 

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America's top aerospace 
engineers. 

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And scientists are joining 
forces to protect us from UFOs. 

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That doesn't make me feel any 
better. 

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The country's largest 
organization of government and 

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private sector. 
Technical experts is launching a

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project to study undignified 
aerial phenomenon after 

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concluding that recent 
incursions by mysterious. 

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Craft pose a safety hazard to 
Military and Commercial 

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aircraft. 
According to people involved in 

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the incident. 
So, these individuals applying 

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the Navy fighter planes. 
They had encounters with UFOs, 

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00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,000
and they had an emotional 
response. 

455
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,000
They thought these things were 
dangerous. 

456
00:28:41,300 --> 00:28:43,700
Now, many of us have had 
sightings were encounters with 

457
00:28:43,700 --> 00:28:50,400
UFOs. 
And while we were awestruck, Are

458
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,900
not ready to jump to the 
conclusion that these things 

459
00:28:52,900 --> 00:28:56,200
were dangerous because for most 
of us for most of us people 

460
00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,300
employing Common Sense. 
We think well, wow, if it could 

461
00:29:00,300 --> 00:29:04,800
do what it did and it wanted to 
hurt me, then it would have 

462
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,700
already hurt me. 
That's kind of the way I'm 

463
00:29:07,700 --> 00:29:10,900
coming at this whole thing. 
Not to say that there are maybe 

464
00:29:10,900 --> 00:29:14,500
are some bad ones out there. 
We have we have phenomena like 

465
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,800
cattle mutilations happening but
I think we have to look at this 

466
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,700
thing on the full spectrum. 
Mm of it. 

467
00:29:19,900 --> 00:29:23,200
It says the American Institute 
of Aeronautics and astronautics,

468
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,000
which includes among its 
members, the country's largest 

469
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,900
defense. 
And NASA contractors has 

470
00:29:28,900 --> 00:29:32,100
established three committees to 
study the technology how 

471
00:29:32,100 --> 00:29:35,400
incursions affect pilot and 
passenger safety, and to 

472
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,100
coordinate with government 
agencies and international 

473
00:29:38,100 --> 00:29:40,300
researchers. 
Also focus on the topic. 

474
00:29:40,900 --> 00:29:44,300
Well, I'm skeptical of that 
because just like, last week or 

475
00:29:44,300 --> 00:29:47,800
two weeks ago, it was when the 
astronomers over in Ukraine, 

476
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,700
reported all these Orb type 
UFOs. 

477
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,900
It seemed like the entire media 
was rounded up to rebuke them 

478
00:29:55,900 --> 00:30:00,100
and we had paper after paper 
came out from one scientific 

479
00:30:00,100 --> 00:30:02,900
publication after another 
scoffing, these people and 

480
00:30:02,900 --> 00:30:05,600
saying how mistaken they were 
goes on. 

481
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,800
And says, we're stepping in a 
new we're stepping and a new 

482
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,000
territory said, Ryan Graves 
that's your guy, Ryan Graves, a 

483
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,800
former Navy, fighter pilot, and 
defense contractor. 

484
00:30:16,300 --> 00:30:18,800
Well that's convenient. 
So he's gone from being a Navy 

485
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,500
fighter. 
Copilot to defense contractor, 

486
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,500
who was co-chairing? 
A IAA, says unidentified 

487
00:30:25,500 --> 00:30:28,600
Aerospace. 
Phenomena phenomena community of

488
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:34,400
Interest, he's joined by Ravi 
copper Rod, who a planetary 

489
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,900
scientist at Nasa, who is 
studying the potential 

490
00:30:38,100 --> 00:30:40,800
habitability of earth-like 
planets. 

491
00:30:41,500 --> 00:30:44,400
This topic is not for everyone. 
Added Graves, who came forward 

492
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,300
with his own experience, with 
UFOs, hovering over his fa-18 

493
00:30:48,300 --> 00:30:52,300
Hornet fighter. 
A jet and 2014 and 2015. 

494
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,300
It is not about forcing people 
to look into this. 

495
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,400
If they are not ready yet people
have to come to terms with it 

496
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,000
but he said that scores of 
members of the 30,000 strong 

497
00:31:03,100 --> 00:31:07,000
aiaa. 
Wow, drawn from Aerospace 

498
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,000
contractors government agencies,
think tanks and startups have 

499
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,200
already signed on to the effort 
and are super excited about what

500
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,400
we are doing. 
Remember George Carlin's lying, 

501
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:24,200
it's a big club and you are in 
it 30,000 30,000 people and the 

502
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:29,700
guy running it views UFOs. 
As a security risk as a threat, 

503
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,000
it almost hit us. 
This is more than we can handle 

504
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,800
right now. 
He said, describing those who 

505
00:31:34,808 --> 00:31:37,600
have come forward to lend their 
expertise as running. 

506
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,600
The gamut from people that have 
30 plus years at Nasa, to 

507
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,300
non-traditional members from The
Tech Community. 

508
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,000
Yes non-traditional. 
And so everywhere from people 

509
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:53,600
who are expert at painting UFOs,
out of NASA pictures to people 

510
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,700
like Tom DeLonge, who can pick 
up that brown bag in a parking 

511
00:31:56,700 --> 00:31:59,500
lot if you need him to that's, 
that's the vibe I'm getting 

512
00:31:59,500 --> 00:32:02,200
here. 
We have to take, we have to take

513
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,300
bits from a lot of different 
things and combine them together

514
00:32:06,500 --> 00:32:10,800
and new ways to get the answers.
He added, you know, I disagree. 

515
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,700
I think what we need is 
transparency. 

516
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,500
Lots and lots of transparency, 
just give us every single. 

517
00:32:18,700 --> 00:32:23,000
Paper that the Deep state has 
concerning UFOs. 

518
00:32:24,500 --> 00:32:28,300
And we want no parts black down.
Just let us read it. 

519
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,700
You they wouldn't even let Trump
release the UFO files. 

520
00:32:33,300 --> 00:32:38,800
It's like you have UFO files, 
Kennedy files, Julian Assange. 

521
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,200
Can't touch those three things. 
If you do, well, we might have 

522
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,100
an impeachment ready for you. 
You know. 

523
00:32:45,300 --> 00:32:47,100
We might have a little 
something, something for you. 

524
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:52,800
What did Schumer say you mess 
with the intelligence community 

525
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,600
and they got seven ways. 
Of Sunday to deal with you. 

526
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,400
So let's just start right there.
Mr. Graves, let's start with 

527
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,600
some transparency. 
Let's start with honoring some, 

528
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,000
for your request. 
Let's start with not farming 

529
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,300
out, the UFO stuff, to private 
companies. 

530
00:33:08,500 --> 00:33:10,500
We're not allowed to look at it 
or touch it. 

531
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,700
It says the move comes as 
Congress has taken additional 

532
00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:17,000
steps to compel the Pentagon and
intelligence agency to study 

533
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,700
UFOs, and share, what they 
discover with oversight 

534
00:33:19,700 --> 00:33:24,200
committees and the public. 
The word oversight right here is

535
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:29,700
kind of an oxymoron because what
we're learning this whole 

536
00:33:29,700 --> 00:33:36,000
journey, is that Congress has no
oversight over the Pentagon and 

537
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:41,000
the intelligence agencies have 
zero, they become so big and so 

538
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:45,900
strong and so embedded that 
they're going to do pretty much 

539
00:33:45,900 --> 00:33:48,700
whatever they want to do with 
the UFO stuff. 

540
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,900
Among them was the 
establishment, the summer of a 

541
00:33:50,908 --> 00:33:55,400
more expensive more. 
Expensive old Amina Nom not only

542
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:59,500
resolution office at the 
Pentagon that is also studying 

543
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,700
and identified undersea 
Vehicles. 

544
00:34:02,700 --> 00:34:07,300
NASA has also an answer Zone, 
you a piece that he in June and 

545
00:34:07,300 --> 00:34:08,100
I'm sure that's going to 
produce. 

546
00:34:08,100 --> 00:34:11,699
Lots and lots of pages with 
black marks who them, meanwhile,

547
00:34:11,699 --> 00:34:14,199
a new legislation moving through
Congress as part of the annual 

548
00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:16,900
defense, intelligence policy 
bills goes further. 

549
00:34:17,100 --> 00:34:19,900
The National Defense 
authorization Act passed by a 

550
00:34:19,900 --> 00:34:23,600
house in July would establish 
new procedures for current and 

551
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,000
former government officials to 
come forward with any 

552
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:30,400
information they may have about 
UFOs without fear of reprisal. 

553
00:34:30,699 --> 00:34:34,199
Sure the proposed intelligence 
Bill also directs the government

554
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:36,800
accountability office to 
undertake a historical. 

555
00:34:36,900 --> 00:34:40,699
Accounting of government efforts
involving UFOs over the past 75 

556
00:34:40,699 --> 00:34:44,400
years, including any recovery of
UFO technology, or government 

557
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:50,300
efforts to spread disinformation
about the subject government 

558
00:34:50,300 --> 00:34:52,300
efforts to spread 
disinformation. 

559
00:34:52,900 --> 00:34:57,100
Wow, that's amazing. 
The Pentagon is also compiling a

560
00:34:57,100 --> 00:35:01,100
report to Congress do at the end
of the month on this latest UFO 

561
00:35:01,100 --> 00:35:04,900
findings, that report is still 
scheduled to be submitted to 

562
00:35:04,900 --> 00:35:09,100
Congress on the 31st. 
I got spokesman Susan, gal, that

563
00:35:09,100 --> 00:35:11,200
we've seen her around. 
She knows her way around. 

564
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:15,500
The block kids said in an email,
but having an established. 

565
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,200
Remember we talked about her? 
She's got like, some kind of 

566
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,800
Doctrine or something and 
Communications. 

567
00:35:20,900 --> 00:35:26,100
I mean, she's she's as far as 
deep State intelligence officer 

568
00:35:26,100 --> 00:35:28,800
goes, she is top-of-the-line 
don't kid yourself. 

569
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,100
They're not, they're not sitting
the second string out there to 

570
00:35:31,100 --> 00:35:33,300
deal with the UFO topic that I 
can assure you. 

571
00:35:33,700 --> 00:35:39,300
But having an established groups
such as a i AAA founded in 1963 

572
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,500
as a principal Professional 
Organization for Aerosmith 

573
00:35:42,700 --> 00:35:46,100
Aerospace, scientists and 
Engineers enter the debate is 

574
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,000
seen by longtime UFO researchers
as a turning point. 

575
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,400
We were wallowing in this and 
their Fringe realm said, David 

576
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,100
Marler executive, director of 
the newly formed, National UFO, 

577
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,200
historical records Center and 
Albuquerque, New Mexico, the 

578
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,500
largest US based repository of 
related archives, we need people

579
00:36:05,500 --> 00:36:08,700
much smarter than ourselves 
elves and from specific 

580
00:36:08,700 --> 00:36:11,600
disciplines to provide 
credibility and layers of 

581
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:16,300
expertise to look at the data. 
What do you call that kids? 

582
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,500
That's called appeal to 
Authority. 

583
00:36:20,100 --> 00:36:23,700
We need people much smarter than
ourselves in other words, you 

584
00:36:23,700 --> 00:36:27,500
are too dumb and too stupid to 
figure this UFO thing out by 

585
00:36:27,500 --> 00:36:31,700
yourself. 
The AI initiative is focused 

586
00:36:31,700 --> 00:36:35,700
primarily on the flight. 
Safety, implications of 

587
00:36:35,700 --> 00:36:39,300
unannounced craft intruding into
protected military airspace or 

588
00:36:39,300 --> 00:36:43,200
traveling dangerously close to 
commercial flights, grave cited.

589
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:48,200
An example as an example, the 11
near-misses since 2019 involving

590
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,200
UFOs coming within 500 feet of 
an aircraft. 

591
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,000
That's got Bray. 
The deputy director of Naval, 

592
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,900
intelligence reported to 
Congress and made during its 

593
00:36:56,900 --> 00:36:59,800
first public, hearing on the 
topic, And more than five 

594
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:00,800
decades. 
Cool. 

595
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,400
It's almost like seeing a 
bullet, go past you as a pilot 

596
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,500
is a pilot, right? 
Grape said people have no idea 

597
00:37:07,500 --> 00:37:09,500
what's going on, it's going to 
frighten people. 

598
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:14,300
The aiaa effort, according to an
internal briefing as being 

599
00:37:14,300 --> 00:37:18,500
driven by the belief that the 
uncertainty about UFOs is 

600
00:37:18,500 --> 00:37:22,600
exposing Pilots passengers and 
military forces to unaddressed 

601
00:37:22,700 --> 00:37:24,900
risk. 
Its mission statement is to 

602
00:37:24,900 --> 00:37:26,900
improve Aviation safety, blah, 
blah blah. 

603
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,400
But then it goes on and says. 
But while the Is focused 

604
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:33,600
primarily on addressing safety 
hazards, Graves maintains that 

605
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,900
the ultimate intent is to learn 
more about those UFOs that are 

606
00:37:37,900 --> 00:37:41,300
truly explain. 
Look at that, I'm not gonna be 

607
00:37:41,300 --> 00:37:42,900
the rest of article here, but it
goes on. 

608
00:37:42,900 --> 00:37:45,400
It's a decent article. 
Look at these things probably 

609
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,000
are never going to be truly 
explained. 

610
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:53,500
I mean, if you just look at it 
from from on the face of it, 

611
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,900
we're talking about an object, 
or an entity, or phenomenon or 

612
00:37:57,900 --> 00:38:02,000
whatever you want to call. 
All it, it is doing things and 

613
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,900
our physical space in our are 
sometimes. 

614
00:38:04,900 --> 00:38:07,500
Sometimes in the water, 
sometimes on land, it's doing 

615
00:38:07,500 --> 00:38:11,800
things that do not conform to 
the laws of physics. 

616
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,900
Whatever is driving. 
These things appears to be 

617
00:38:14,900 --> 00:38:18,600
intelligent based on the 
patterns that we see occurring 

618
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,500
with it. 
And if it's based on an 

619
00:38:21,500 --> 00:38:26,500
intelligence, it's safe to 
assume that that intelligence is

620
00:38:26,500 --> 00:38:29,500
far beyond. 
We currently Possess. 

621
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,100
So this notion that we're going 
to get our heads wrapped around 

622
00:38:34,100 --> 00:38:38,200
this UFO thing, and then we're 
going to be able to do this or 

623
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,500
do that. 
That's a little naive, I think. 

624
00:38:42,500 --> 00:38:44,800
Probably the best way to 
approach this thing is going to 

625
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,500
be something that computers 
don't possess an intelligence. 

626
00:38:48,500 --> 00:38:51,900
That computers don't possess and
that is an emotional 

627
00:38:51,900 --> 00:38:55,700
intelligence and it seems like a
lot of these scientists don't 

628
00:38:55,700 --> 00:39:00,800
possess emotional intelligence. 
At some point, you have to trust

629
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,000
your own gut instinct. 
This is Saint present. 

630
00:39:04,100 --> 00:39:07,200
A danger. 
Is this uncertainty that I feel 

631
00:39:07,500 --> 00:39:10,000
just because I don't understand 
it or is it? 

632
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:14,700
Because at some in Nate level. 
This thing is a threat to me, we

633
00:39:14,700 --> 00:39:17,400
have to see the difference 
between the lights in the sky 

634
00:39:17,900 --> 00:39:21,100
and the mutilated cattle that 
are left on the ground, we have 

635
00:39:21,100 --> 00:39:24,200
to start to categorize. 
Maybe summer good, maybe some 

636
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,600
are bad, maybe they're all bad. 
We don't know yet. 

637
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,300
But these things in my opinion, 
so complicated. 

638
00:39:31,300 --> 00:39:36,300
And so beyond the pale that in 
order to get the first grasp of 

639
00:39:36,300 --> 00:39:39,500
what they are, we're not going 
to be able to use math and 

640
00:39:39,500 --> 00:39:41,100
science. 
We're not going to be able to 

641
00:39:41,100 --> 00:39:44,200
appeal to authorities. 
The first step is to use our 

642
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:48,200
emotional intelligence to look 
at what's out there. 

643
00:39:48,500 --> 00:39:51,200
It's up to us to look into this 
guy, decide for herself. 

644
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,200
Until next time, this is UFO 
morning over. 

645
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:53,600
Now,