1 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,200 Hello and welcome to the program UFO warning. 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,440 In this episode we're talking about whistleblower reprisal 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:10,320 programs. That's correct. 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:15,280 Whistleblower reprisal programs. And we know that military says 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,600 that they have a whistleblower protection program. 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,040 But this would be the exact opposite of this. 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,160 This would be an organized program, of course, not 8 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:27,040 official, where people who are blowing the whistle on this UFO 9 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,720 stuff are having actions taken against him. 10 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,439 According to Gresch. He's been harassed, threatened, 11 00:00:33,160 --> 00:00:35,280 and he won't come right out and say it, but he's implying that 12 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,920 people may have even been, well, let's just say, eliminated 13 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,080 because of this. This is really a serious 14 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,640 business you're getting into. There's some different things to 15 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:50,040 play into it, whether this heated opposition is coming from 16 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,720 the government that we know, the government that we don't know, 17 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,750 or from private corporations that are working with the 18 00:00:58,750 --> 00:01:03,510 government on this UFO material, craft aliens, whatever, to back 19 00:01:03,510 --> 00:01:06,670 engineer this stuff. If that's the case, if this 20 00:01:06,670 --> 00:01:10,190 stuff goes as deep as many of us have suspected that it goes for 21 00:01:10,190 --> 00:01:16,230 a long time, then a UFO whistleblower reprisal program 22 00:01:16,230 --> 00:01:18,590 might be something that they would want to have around that 23 00:01:18,590 --> 00:01:21,030 they could implement. Now this article here from 24 00:01:21,030 --> 00:01:26,380 newsnationnow.com The title says Congressman more witnesses were 25 00:01:26,380 --> 00:01:29,700 scared away from UFO hearing and the subtitle says last week the 26 00:01:29,700 --> 00:01:31,660 House Oversight Committee held a UAP hearing. 27 00:01:31,980 --> 00:01:35,580 Tim Burchard says some witnesses were too scared to testify. 28 00:01:36,060 --> 00:01:40,020 Burchard says conversations about the topic always encounter 29 00:01:40,260 --> 00:01:44,580 quote UN quote roadblocks. Now roadblocks are those 30 00:01:44,580 --> 00:01:48,980 physical roadblocks, or those roadblocks where they perhaps be 31 00:01:49,380 --> 00:01:53,860 men and black, carrying whatever kind of weapon they need to stop 32 00:01:53,860 --> 00:01:55,260 you from talking about it, Who knows? 33 00:01:56,340 --> 00:02:00,380 This article's by Katie Smith, dated August 1st, 2023, and it 34 00:02:00,380 --> 00:02:02,940 says several more political figures might have testified at 35 00:02:02,940 --> 00:02:05,420 Wednesday's Congressional hearing on UA P's and UF O's, 36 00:02:05,980 --> 00:02:08,740 but some backed out unexpectedly, according to US 37 00:02:08,740 --> 00:02:11,100 Representative Tim Burchard, Republican Tennessee. 38 00:02:11,620 --> 00:02:14,340 Burchard previously told News Nation's Senior National 39 00:02:14,340 --> 00:02:18,580 Correspondent Brian Eaton that he expected about 6 witnesses to 40 00:02:18,580 --> 00:02:20,700 testify. Only three did. 41 00:02:21,300 --> 00:02:24,300 We had one tell us that he'd received a call from, I guess 42 00:02:24,300 --> 00:02:29,180 maybe the Pentagon and he or she decided that maybe it was best 43 00:02:29,180 --> 00:02:31,500 if they weren't on there, Bertrude said. 44 00:02:32,060 --> 00:02:34,140 Yeah, maybe it's the best. If you didn't have to live the 45 00:02:34,140 --> 00:02:37,340 rest of your life like Julie's Assange in an underground prison 46 00:02:37,340 --> 00:02:40,740 somewhere, maybe that'd be best. As lawmakers continue to probe 47 00:02:40,740 --> 00:02:43,380 the issue, News Nation's Brian Inton hosted A2 Hour Special 48 00:02:43,380 --> 00:02:45,500 Report on the hearing and including analysis from youthful 49 00:02:45,500 --> 00:02:47,540 experts. According to the congressman, 50 00:02:47,540 --> 00:02:50,170 he's heard from several colleagues who claim to have 51 00:02:50,170 --> 00:02:51,970 experienced sightings of their own. 52 00:02:52,330 --> 00:02:54,770 But they tend to want to remain anonymous, He said. 53 00:02:55,130 --> 00:02:57,730 Lo and behold, they start backing out, Bertrand said. 54 00:02:58,050 --> 00:03:01,370 I'm told by reliable people I need to be careful and I don't 55 00:03:01,370 --> 00:03:05,730 know what I'm doing. Wow, now this is a sitting US 56 00:03:05,730 --> 00:03:09,370 congressman told by what he says are reliable people. 57 00:03:09,370 --> 00:03:13,810 And in other words, people that have the wherewithal, the backup 58 00:03:13,810 --> 00:03:18,370 threats need to be careful. And he doesn't know what he's 59 00:03:18,370 --> 00:03:21,290 doing. Well, if all he's doing is 60 00:03:21,290 --> 00:03:23,530 trying to get disclosure on this stuff, what's that tell you? 61 00:03:24,610 --> 00:03:29,130 If UF O's weren't real, if this is all much of made-up nonsense 62 00:03:29,130 --> 00:03:31,850 at Hokey Pokey, what would they care? 63 00:03:32,210 --> 00:03:35,090 They would say, well, let this hillbilly from Tennessee come 64 00:03:35,090 --> 00:03:39,290 out here and talk about this stuff and in six months people 65 00:03:39,290 --> 00:03:42,410 will laugh him out of office. But that's not the reaction 66 00:03:42,410 --> 00:03:44,930 they're having. If Tim Burchard was having 67 00:03:44,930 --> 00:03:49,630 hearings on, I don't know, the tooth fairy, do you think this 68 00:03:49,630 --> 00:03:52,670 would happen? But when you get into subjects 69 00:03:52,670 --> 00:03:57,150 like UFOs and government involvement, when you get into 70 00:03:57,150 --> 00:04:00,550 subjects like Bigfoot in the National Park and missing 71 00:04:00,550 --> 00:04:05,390 people, when you get into subjects like implants that 72 00:04:05,390 --> 00:04:07,710 can't be explained, that are found in people after they've 73 00:04:07,710 --> 00:04:11,870 had alien abduction experiences, when you get into these cattle 74 00:04:11,870 --> 00:04:14,150 mutilation cases where there's no blood in the ground, no 75 00:04:14,150 --> 00:04:17,550 tracks, then all of a sudden the room gets quiet. 76 00:04:18,329 --> 00:04:22,850 They aren't laughing anymore. They're telling you you need to 77 00:04:22,850 --> 00:04:24,530 be careful. You don't know what you're 78 00:04:24,530 --> 00:04:27,530 doing. And to me, that's nothing more 79 00:04:27,610 --> 00:04:31,210 than a veiled threat. It's like it's like something 80 00:04:31,490 --> 00:04:34,370 that a Mafia soldier would say to another soldier who's getting 81 00:04:34,370 --> 00:04:36,410 a little bit out of line. You need to be careful. 82 00:04:36,410 --> 00:04:37,290 You don't know what you're doing. 83 00:04:37,570 --> 00:04:41,090 You can end up in the trunk of a car somewhere headed for a 84 00:04:41,090 --> 00:04:43,730 landfill. That's the kind of, that's the 85 00:04:43,730 --> 00:04:45,290 kind of attitude these people have. 86 00:04:45,970 --> 00:04:48,680 But we're not supposed to be ruled by the Mafia. 87 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:56,160 We're supposed to be ruled by a government that's given its 88 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:00,880 consent from the people. Okay by the people. 89 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,200 Boy, this is looking worse and worse all the time. 90 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:08,240 But thankfully, we have someone like Tim Bercher there to come 91 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,520 out and talk about this stuff. He's repeating stuff that they 92 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:15,190 didn't expect to be repeated on the Internet, Where where the 93 00:05:15,190 --> 00:05:16,790 whole world has access to it now. 94 00:05:17,270 --> 00:05:20,190 They've been playing by their own rules for a long time and I 95 00:05:20,190 --> 00:05:24,070 think they're kind of a little bit confused by what's happening 96 00:05:24,470 --> 00:05:27,150 now. We get into this whole notion of 97 00:05:27,150 --> 00:05:31,270 this UFO whistleblower reprisal thing a little bit. 98 00:05:31,270 --> 00:05:36,070 Here it it. It's kind of rearing its head a 99 00:05:36,070 --> 00:05:39,950 little bit when somebody like Shanka Patrick of the of Arrow 100 00:05:39,950 --> 00:05:43,590 comes out and just eviscerates Grush without naming him. 101 00:05:44,450 --> 00:05:48,210 And if that's not intimidation, I mean, I don't know. 102 00:05:48,330 --> 00:05:50,530 Now he says he does this. He did this in his personal 103 00:05:50,530 --> 00:05:53,410 capacity. He just happens to be the guy in 104 00:05:53,410 --> 00:05:57,330 charge of finding UFO's. But he's coming out publicly 105 00:05:57,330 --> 00:06:00,570 attacking this guy without mentioning his name. 106 00:06:01,850 --> 00:06:04,050 This did get the attention of the Bite administration. 107 00:06:04,050 --> 00:06:05,130 I'll have to give him credit for that. 108 00:06:05,130 --> 00:06:09,090 It says this is from foxnews.com and it says by the 109 00:06:09,090 --> 00:06:12,770 administration distanced itself from Pentagon official who 110 00:06:12,770 --> 00:06:16,690 blasted UFO hearing. And then it says Doctor Sean 111 00:06:16,690 --> 00:06:21,330 Kirkpatrick, Dr. the director of the Pentagon's all domain 112 00:06:21,330 --> 00:06:25,050 anomaly resolution office called last week's congressional 113 00:06:25,050 --> 00:06:29,410 hearing insulting. Now look, you can disagree with 114 00:06:29,410 --> 00:06:35,170 the contents of that hearing, but it was your Congress that 115 00:06:35,170 --> 00:06:39,580 brought it to you. OK, so just keep that in mind. 116 00:06:39,700 --> 00:06:43,540 And it's one thing for a private citizen to say that, but this 117 00:06:43,540 --> 00:06:45,420 guy is an employee of the US government. 118 00:06:45,820 --> 00:06:48,420 Those are his bosses, our representatives. 119 00:06:48,780 --> 00:06:50,980 And he's saying what they did was insulting. 120 00:06:51,500 --> 00:06:54,980 I find his attitude toward our congressional representatives 121 00:06:55,260 --> 00:06:59,420 insulting. Now it's got a picture of Ryan 122 00:06:59,420 --> 00:07:03,900 Graves here, and him and him and Fraber both said, you know, 123 00:07:03,900 --> 00:07:06,060 well, they really haven't had any harassment over this. 124 00:07:06,060 --> 00:07:08,770 Well, they're Top Gun pilots. What do you expect? 125 00:07:09,690 --> 00:07:14,170 Gresh, however, is what come out and he hasn't been able to tell 126 00:07:14,170 --> 00:07:16,650 us where the bodies are buried, but he has been able to tell us 127 00:07:16,650 --> 00:07:19,890 that the bodies are buried. This is behind the scenes. 128 00:07:19,890 --> 00:07:22,130 Tensions appear to be blowing the surface after last week's 129 00:07:22,130 --> 00:07:25,930 congressional hearing on UF O's. After a top Pentagon officials 130 00:07:26,210 --> 00:07:29,610 personal opinion quote UN quote ripping, the witness's 131 00:07:29,610 --> 00:07:33,610 testimonies became public. Doctor Sean Kirkpatrick, the 132 00:07:33,610 --> 00:07:37,170 director of the All Domain Anomaly Research Office or Arrow 133 00:07:37,250 --> 00:07:42,570 a ARO, said the hearing was quote was insulting to the 134 00:07:42,570 --> 00:07:44,970 officers of the Department of Defense Intelligence Community 135 00:07:44,970 --> 00:07:47,850 who joined Arrow which is a specialized department of the 136 00:07:47,850 --> 00:07:52,250 DoD task with studying UF O's. I'll tell you what's insulting 137 00:07:52,730 --> 00:07:55,330 is when someone like John Greenwald makes a request for 138 00:07:55,330 --> 00:07:59,420 UFO data from a Korean crash site and 70 years ago and he 139 00:07:59,420 --> 00:08:02,300 gets a blacked out page with maybe one sentence exposed. 140 00:08:02,500 --> 00:08:06,540 That's what's insulting many with not unreasonable anxieties 141 00:08:06,540 --> 00:08:09,020 about the career risk this would entail have been working 142 00:08:09,020 --> 00:08:11,900 diligently, tirelessly, and often in the face of harassment 143 00:08:12,060 --> 00:08:15,580 and animosity to satisfy their congressionally mandated 144 00:08:15,740 --> 00:08:19,940 mission, Kirkpatrick said as part of a lengthy statement. 145 00:08:19,940 --> 00:08:22,980 Oh yes, they've all sacrificed so much, you know, making what, 146 00:08:23,260 --> 00:08:25,860 $200,000 a year, full benefits and retirement? 147 00:08:26,380 --> 00:08:31,190 Man, those poor guys, a Rose top man's comments are his personal 148 00:08:31,190 --> 00:08:34,590 opinions expressed in his capacity as a private citizen, 149 00:08:34,909 --> 00:08:39,590 DoD spokesman Susan Goff said in an e-mail to Fox News Digital. 150 00:08:39,990 --> 00:08:43,190 We won't comment directly on the comment on the contents of the 151 00:08:43,190 --> 00:08:45,590 post. I don't know, you could say 152 00:08:45,590 --> 00:08:47,990 something like, hey, maybe Sean shouldn't bring his work home 153 00:08:47,990 --> 00:08:50,070 with him. That that would be one thing you 154 00:08:50,070 --> 00:08:55,230 could say in my opinion, if I would look at this in any other 155 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,360 structure, any other kind of government, any other kind of 156 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,520 corporation, whatever, this guy is personally attacking somebody 157 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,640 that has bought a whistleblower complaint against him. 158 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,240 I think any lawyer would have told Shankar Patrick the best 159 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,920 thing to do is be quiet, okay, maybe release an official 160 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,000 statement saying, well, you know, we don't know about any of 161 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:20,000 this, but we're investigating his comments make it look like 162 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,680 brushes over the target. I mean, to me, it was completely 163 00:09:23,680 --> 00:09:27,220 unprofessional what he did here. And I find it disturbing that 164 00:09:27,220 --> 00:09:30,340 it's almost like we're in a Banana Republic where this guy 165 00:09:30,340 --> 00:09:33,300 comes forward, he says he's a whistleblower, he goes through 166 00:09:33,300 --> 00:09:35,980 all the right channels, he hires a lawyer, he goes before 167 00:09:35,980 --> 00:09:40,540 Congress, Okay. Now, if it turns out that David 168 00:09:40,540 --> 00:09:45,260 Gresh is psychopathic or has mental health issues or is just 169 00:09:45,260 --> 00:09:47,100 a liar, it's all going to come out. 170 00:09:48,100 --> 00:09:50,340 You can't put this much attention on something and not 171 00:09:50,340 --> 00:09:54,220 have this come out. All right, So he doesn't need to 172 00:09:54,220 --> 00:09:57,150 be attacked. This guy says, well, this is 173 00:09:57,150 --> 00:09:59,230 disgusting. What he could say is we're 174 00:09:59,230 --> 00:10:02,070 looking into it. And if it's true, we'll tell 175 00:10:02,070 --> 00:10:03,910 you. But if it's not true, Mr. Gresch 176 00:10:03,910 --> 00:10:06,590 is going to have to some consequences to suffer in former 177 00:10:06,590 --> 00:10:09,230 perjury charges. But he didn't do that. 178 00:10:09,670 --> 00:10:11,910 He got, he just took it. He just, he just took that 179 00:10:11,910 --> 00:10:13,470 temperature and turned it up on high. 180 00:10:14,310 --> 00:10:16,790 It seems like he got very personally offended by it. 181 00:10:17,190 --> 00:10:18,190 Why? Why would he? 182 00:10:18,190 --> 00:10:21,290 It's his job, man. He's taking something, a 183 00:10:21,290 --> 00:10:22,890 business thing. He's making it personal. 184 00:10:22,970 --> 00:10:25,730 That's weird to me. Could this be part of this 185 00:10:26,690 --> 00:10:30,930 whistleblower program where they're actually, you know, 186 00:10:30,930 --> 00:10:34,650 trying to attack these guys? It says Kirk Kirkpatrick took 187 00:10:34,650 --> 00:10:37,250 offense to to UFO whistleblower Dave Regressions underdose 188 00:10:37,250 --> 00:10:40,330 statements that alleged whistleblowers face physical 189 00:10:40,330 --> 00:10:42,970 assaults and thresh to their lives, including his own. 190 00:10:43,530 --> 00:10:46,130 Well, this is something we've talked about in the UFO 191 00:10:46,130 --> 00:10:49,510 community for years, about people that have ended up 192 00:10:50,950 --> 00:10:53,430 committing some very strange suicides, let's say. 193 00:10:53,830 --> 00:10:56,630 So this is, this is an idea. It's been around a long time. 194 00:10:57,070 --> 00:10:58,910 It's even thought that that might have contributed to 195 00:10:58,910 --> 00:11:01,310 Kennedy's assassination, where he was asking for information 196 00:11:01,310 --> 00:11:02,630 about this stuff. Tell him, NASA. 197 00:11:02,630 --> 00:11:06,270 Hey, tell us about the unknowns. So this is nothing new. 198 00:11:06,990 --> 00:11:10,950 Was it disgusting for John F Kennedy to send a memo to the 199 00:11:10,950 --> 00:11:15,950 CIA at directing them to, you know, communicate with NASA 200 00:11:15,950 --> 00:11:18,670 about any unknowns that they're aware of in order to keep our 201 00:11:18,670 --> 00:11:20,670 space program safe? Was that disgusting? 202 00:11:22,030 --> 00:11:24,750 I can't get into the specifics in an open form. 203 00:11:25,670 --> 00:11:29,270 What I personally witnessed myself and my wife was a very 204 00:11:29,270 --> 00:11:32,150 disturbing, said Gresh, a former U.S. intelligence officer and 205 00:11:32,150 --> 00:11:35,150 Air Force veteran. I faced brutal, unfortunate 206 00:11:35,150 --> 00:11:40,190 tactics of retribution that he called administrative terrorism. 207 00:11:41,070 --> 00:11:43,470 Think about that. Administrative terrorism. 208 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,800 Gretch said he couldn't develop specifics in open forum like 209 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,160 last week's House Oversight Committee hearing because 210 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:54,600 there's a open whistleblower reprisal program case against 211 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,960 him. Sounds pretty organized. 212 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:01,320 An open whistleblower reprisal program case against him. 213 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,480 It's almost like they're doing this law fair thing on him, but 214 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,560 they're not using the normal channels of law to do it. 215 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,560 But he told lawmakers that he can detail them in a classified 216 00:12:11,560 --> 00:12:13,300 briefing. Classified setting. 217 00:12:13,300 --> 00:12:16,580 Rather, Gresh, along with Navy pilots Ryan Graves and David 218 00:12:16,580 --> 00:12:19,180 Fraver, testified about their first hand encounters with UF 219 00:12:19,180 --> 00:12:22,020 O's and UAPS identified anomalous phenomena. 220 00:12:22,020 --> 00:12:23,420 As they call, as they're called now. 221 00:12:23,420 --> 00:12:25,740 Well, we don't call them that. I call them UF O's. 222 00:12:26,420 --> 00:12:29,580 Allegations by the hearings, witnesses of retaliation to 223 00:12:29,580 --> 00:12:33,180 include physical assault, hints of murder are extraordinarily 224 00:12:33,180 --> 00:12:35,780 serious, which is why law enforcement is a critical member 225 00:12:35,780 --> 00:12:40,140 of the Arrow team, Patrick said. Well, that's interesting. 226 00:12:40,770 --> 00:12:43,410 He called his team an arrow. Truth seekers. 227 00:12:45,330 --> 00:12:47,370 A lot of people might think that's a stretch. 228 00:12:47,530 --> 00:12:51,410 I mean, to see that sphere fly across that muzzle orb, you 229 00:12:51,410 --> 00:12:54,610 watch that thing fly across the screen, and then this guy tells 230 00:12:54,610 --> 00:12:58,650 you that there's nothing that's nothing that violates that, 231 00:12:58,650 --> 00:13:01,770 nothing that violates the laws of physics about that, nothing 232 00:13:01,770 --> 00:13:03,450 to see here, just another weather balloon. 233 00:13:04,330 --> 00:13:06,730 But you certainly would not get that impression from last week's 234 00:13:06,730 --> 00:13:08,090 hearing. You said, well, no, we wouldn't. 235 00:13:08,830 --> 00:13:11,790 You see when someone turns the lights on, all the little bugs 236 00:13:11,790 --> 00:13:14,830 go scurrying. Sometimes the little bugs get 237 00:13:14,830 --> 00:13:19,390 angry, and I think that angry to the point that they might fight 238 00:13:19,390 --> 00:13:20,790 back. And that's what Grush is worried 239 00:13:20,790 --> 00:13:23,270 about. He probably should be because 240 00:13:23,270 --> 00:13:26,590 Honest says he went on to say a central source of those 241 00:13:26,590 --> 00:13:29,750 allegations refused to speak to a ARO. 242 00:13:30,590 --> 00:13:33,110 The statement didn't specifically mention Grush, but 243 00:13:33,110 --> 00:13:35,670 it was clear that's he referred to. 244 00:13:35,670 --> 00:13:40,850 And that's like if you're a 4 foot 6 inch kid in junior high 245 00:13:40,850 --> 00:13:45,570 and you're getting beat on by a 300 pound, 6 foot tall bully and 246 00:13:45,570 --> 00:13:48,050 the teacher tells you to take your complaint to the bully, 247 00:13:48,810 --> 00:13:51,850 Probably wouldn't be a good idea, goes on. 248 00:13:51,850 --> 00:13:54,010 It says Kirkpatrick's statement shifted to address Congress, 249 00:13:54,010 --> 00:13:56,130 specifically the bipartisan House Herbalside Committee. 250 00:13:56,130 --> 00:13:58,490 That said, it's pushing to uncover the truth about UF O's 251 00:13:58,490 --> 00:14:01,690 and extraterrestrial life. Furthermore, some information 252 00:14:01,690 --> 00:14:04,690 reportedly provided to Congress has not been provided to Arrow, 253 00:14:05,130 --> 00:14:07,490 raising additional questions about the true commitment to 254 00:14:07,490 --> 00:14:09,450 transparency by some congressional elements, said 255 00:14:09,450 --> 00:14:12,210 Kirkpatrick. Yeah, and this is more 256 00:14:13,010 --> 00:14:15,050 silliness. He's saying the Congress hasn't 257 00:14:15,050 --> 00:14:18,610 turned everything over to him. We can't get a page from from 258 00:14:18,610 --> 00:14:21,530 1940. Okay. 259 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,960 NASA won't give us 2 main pictures of the moon and this 260 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,040 guy's going to complain about the Congress not giving him all 261 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,760 the information. I don't know, maybe Congress is 262 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,960 protecting more whistleblowers because as we saw Tim Burchard 263 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:38,640 just said, three of them wouldn't show up. 264 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,560 They've been threatened. That might be a good reason not 265 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,760 to give the information to Mr. Kirkpatrick. 266 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,880 Maybe people want to remain above ground, I don't know. 267 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,000 A rational person watching the hearing might reasonably assume 268 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,200 that both the witnesses and the members had an understanding of 269 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,440 the departments and the I C's progress since the establishment 270 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,520 of Arrow around this time last year, only naturally leading to 271 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,280 conclude that Arrow has been ineffective, nontransparent, and 272 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,400 delinquent in its legislative mission. 273 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:10,520 Well, it has been ineffective, nontransparent and delinquent. 274 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,980 They weren't even fully staffed up after they'd been after 275 00:15:13,980 --> 00:15:15,620 they've been funded. Remember, we had the whole thing 276 00:15:15,620 --> 00:15:17,940 in Congress about that. How many people you got working 277 00:15:17,940 --> 00:15:19,180 there? Will, too. 278 00:15:19,740 --> 00:15:22,660 What have you been doing, Will? Getting things started. 279 00:15:22,940 --> 00:15:24,740 How long does it take? I don't know. 280 00:15:24,740 --> 00:15:27,020 A while. Well, it's been like a year or 281 00:15:27,020 --> 00:15:28,740 something. Do something. 282 00:15:29,180 --> 00:15:31,740 So, yeah. And and when we ask them for 283 00:15:31,740 --> 00:15:35,020 information on stuff, they clam up. 284 00:15:35,380 --> 00:15:39,020 It's all classified. So yes, I think that when Mr. 285 00:15:39,020 --> 00:15:44,910 Kirkpatrick uses the words ineffective, nontransparent and 286 00:15:44,910 --> 00:15:48,270 delinquent, he's chosen some pretty good words there to use. 287 00:15:48,790 --> 00:15:50,510 It goes on. It says I'm just, I'm deeply 288 00:15:50,510 --> 00:15:53,110 disappointed at the denigration of ARS, yet we do what you don't 289 00:15:53,110 --> 00:15:54,790 care. Now this is one of those deals. 290 00:15:54,790 --> 00:15:56,910 It's it's a passive aggressive move. 291 00:15:57,510 --> 00:16:00,550 And that's when it's really. You see this a lot in criminals. 292 00:16:01,070 --> 00:16:05,190 It's when some joker goes out and does some really nasty 293 00:16:05,190 --> 00:16:07,670 stuff. I mean, hurts a kid or 294 00:16:07,670 --> 00:16:10,310 something. Or, you know, they get drunk and 295 00:16:10,470 --> 00:16:13,780 wrecked their car into a school bus or just just think of some 296 00:16:13,780 --> 00:16:16,740 scumbag behavior. And then somehow instead of 297 00:16:16,740 --> 00:16:19,500 being repentant about that, instead of being like, oh man, 298 00:16:20,140 --> 00:16:22,500 how did they do that? I mean, you know, this is 299 00:16:22,500 --> 00:16:25,260 terrible. Oh no, it's not their fault. 300 00:16:26,100 --> 00:16:29,300 The school bus full of kids should have got out of their 301 00:16:29,300 --> 00:16:33,540 way, you know, should never happened. 302 00:16:34,420 --> 00:16:38,380 It's just criminal mindset where the criminal commits a crime. 303 00:16:39,450 --> 00:16:45,170 Or even if it's not at the rate of criminality, if it's say it's 304 00:16:45,530 --> 00:16:47,770 an employee or a family member or whatever, and they do 305 00:16:47,770 --> 00:16:51,650 something that's just out of line or they don't do their job, 306 00:16:52,130 --> 00:16:54,170 okay. And it's just because they don't 307 00:16:54,170 --> 00:16:57,050 care and it's because they're lazy and when they're confronted 308 00:16:57,050 --> 00:17:01,290 about it, they have an excuse. So it's just antisocial 309 00:17:01,290 --> 00:17:03,770 behavior. You were given a job. 310 00:17:04,410 --> 00:17:06,569 You were given a job to be transparent. 311 00:17:06,569 --> 00:17:08,609 You were given a job to be effective. 312 00:17:09,220 --> 00:17:11,819 You were given a job to tell us what's going on here, and you 313 00:17:11,819 --> 00:17:14,339 haven't done any of that. So what does he say? 314 00:17:14,700 --> 00:17:17,300 You guys are so mean. You're up there talking bad 315 00:17:17,300 --> 00:17:18,220 about me. Look at me. 316 00:17:18,220 --> 00:17:22,180 I'm the victim. Passive aggressive behavior, 317 00:17:22,980 --> 00:17:26,900 very dangerous by the way, Very dangerous goes on. 318 00:17:26,900 --> 00:17:30,140 It says Department of Defense reacts to Kirkpatrick Gough on 319 00:17:30,140 --> 00:17:32,820 behalf of the DoD. Emphasize Kirkpatrick was 320 00:17:32,820 --> 00:17:36,660 speaking as a private citizen and the DoD has no information 321 00:17:37,140 --> 00:17:39,940 that any individual has been harmed or killed as a result of 322 00:17:39,940 --> 00:17:43,660 providing information to Arrow. Any substantial claims that 323 00:17:43,660 --> 00:17:45,940 individuals have been harmed or killed in the process of 324 00:17:45,940 --> 00:17:49,020 providing information to Arrow was will serve to discourage 325 00:17:49,020 --> 00:17:51,420 individuals development information coming forward into 326 00:17:51,420 --> 00:17:53,420 aid and Arrows efforts, she said in an e-mail. 327 00:17:54,620 --> 00:17:58,300 Not one word about whether or not it was kosher for the 328 00:17:58,300 --> 00:18:02,020 department head to come out and personally attack somebody on 329 00:18:02,020 --> 00:18:05,210 the social media without using their name. 330 00:18:05,650 --> 00:18:09,330 Not one word about, not one word about accountability about, you 331 00:18:09,330 --> 00:18:12,490 know, really, maybe our department heads shouldn't be 332 00:18:12,490 --> 00:18:15,890 coming out and attacking whistleblowers in the newspaper 333 00:18:16,370 --> 00:18:18,170 for claiming that they're being attacked. 334 00:18:19,050 --> 00:18:21,330 Think about that. Grushka said that before 335 00:18:21,330 --> 00:18:23,010 Congress and says I've been attacked. 336 00:18:23,890 --> 00:18:26,650 And what happens? Well, Kirkpatrick comes out and 337 00:18:26,650 --> 00:18:32,650 says this no good soandso he's he's besmirching my beloved 338 00:18:32,650 --> 00:18:34,650 department. This is terrible. 339 00:18:34,650 --> 00:18:37,930 And then goes on to attack the guy without naming him. 340 00:18:40,170 --> 00:18:43,090 I don't know, maybe Mrs. Gal could have talked about that. 341 00:18:43,090 --> 00:18:45,410 Is that professional? Is that professional for the 342 00:18:45,410 --> 00:18:47,570 department head to do that to a private citizen? 343 00:18:48,010 --> 00:18:51,570 I don't think so, says Errol. Doesn't have any very viable 344 00:18:51,570 --> 00:18:54,210 information to substantiate claims that reverse engine 345 00:18:55,210 --> 00:18:59,570 program of alien tech that has existed in the past or exists 346 00:18:59,570 --> 00:19:03,210 currently, according to Gal. Yeah, well, they don't have any 347 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,040 proof because it's all hidden away in private corporate vault 348 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:10,080 somewhere. Now it goes on, it says talks a 349 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,800 little bit more about, you know, how how badly they got. 350 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,840 Their feelings hurt. They invested 800 cases, 2% are 351 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,800 truly anonymous. That's still a lot. 352 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:23,640 You know, you have to think that that David Gresh is on to 353 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,760 something here, man, that goes on. 354 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,880 There's one more article here I'll take a look at real quick. 355 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:32,250 And this is from thehill.com. The article was written by Saul 356 00:19:32,250 --> 00:19:34,570 Elblem. Title says UFO whistleblower 357 00:19:34,570 --> 00:19:38,570 makes explosive claims but wary of divulging details. 358 00:19:40,090 --> 00:19:42,610 I don't know, maybe he doesn't want to get anybody killed. 359 00:19:43,490 --> 00:19:46,090 He talks about Gresch a little bit and then you get out into 360 00:19:46,090 --> 00:19:49,330 the article a little bit and it's got a subtitle naming his 361 00:19:49,330 --> 00:19:51,690 sources. And Gresch said that during his 362 00:19:51,690 --> 00:19:55,410 time as Co lead of the Pentagon's Unexplained Anonymous 363 00:19:55,410 --> 00:20:00,060 Phenomena, or UAP Task Force, fellow intelligence officials 364 00:20:00,060 --> 00:20:04,420 leaked to him the existence of the secret program focused on 365 00:20:04,420 --> 00:20:09,780 retrieving and attempting to reverse engineer non human 366 00:20:09,860 --> 00:20:13,500 craft. So they were so scared they 367 00:20:13,500 --> 00:20:15,460 couldn't even go on the record releasing this stuff. 368 00:20:16,820 --> 00:20:20,140 Quote do you have direct knowledge or have you spoken to 369 00:20:20,140 --> 00:20:23,220 people with direct knowledge of this imagery of crash sites? 370 00:20:23,260 --> 00:20:25,860 Representative Jared Muskowitz, Democrat, Florida. 371 00:20:25,860 --> 00:20:29,270 Ask Grush. I can't discuss that in an open 372 00:20:29,270 --> 00:20:32,710 session, Gresch said. But he promised to offer a list 373 00:20:32,710 --> 00:20:36,830 of potential witnesses, both cooperative and hostile, who 374 00:20:36,830 --> 00:20:39,430 would give the committee more information. 375 00:20:40,470 --> 00:20:43,230 I don't know about hostile, man. You may have a hard time getting 376 00:20:43,230 --> 00:20:46,830 these guys to admit to anything while most of the intelligence 377 00:20:46,830 --> 00:20:49,510 agency colleagues have been supportive, Gresch told 378 00:20:49,510 --> 00:20:51,190 Representative Jamie Raskin in New York. 379 00:20:51,740 --> 00:20:55,300 I Democrat in New York, I have knowledge of active and planned 380 00:20:55,300 --> 00:20:59,780 reprisal activity against myself and other colleagues and what he 381 00:20:59,780 --> 00:21:03,900 called administrative terrorism. Wow. 382 00:21:04,620 --> 00:21:08,260 Quote. I do have knowledge of active 383 00:21:08,420 --> 00:21:13,540 and planned reprisal activity against myself and other 384 00:21:13,540 --> 00:21:18,250 colleagues and what he called administrative terrorism when 385 00:21:18,250 --> 00:21:20,930 Raskin pressed on. When Raskin pressed on where 386 00:21:20,930 --> 00:21:24,610 these reprisals had come from, Gross said the source was 387 00:21:24,610 --> 00:21:30,010 certain senior senior leadership at previous agencies I was 388 00:21:30,010 --> 00:21:34,890 associated with. When Raskin pressed on where 389 00:21:34,890 --> 00:21:39,290 these reprisals had come from, Gross said the source was 390 00:21:39,370 --> 00:21:44,410 certain senior leadership at previous agencies I was 391 00:21:44,450 --> 00:21:47,470 associated with. That's all I'll say publicly, 392 00:21:47,470 --> 00:21:50,030 Gresh added. But I can provide more details 393 00:21:50,390 --> 00:21:52,910 in a closed environment. Wow. 394 00:21:53,470 --> 00:21:55,870 Ask if anyone had been killed over, potentially, Gresh told 395 00:21:55,870 --> 00:21:58,350 Representative Tim Butcher, Representative in Tennessee, 396 00:21:58,790 --> 00:22:01,750 Republican of Tennessee. Rather that I have to be careful 397 00:22:01,990 --> 00:22:05,590 asking that question, I directed people with that knowledge to 398 00:22:05,590 --> 00:22:08,110 the appropriate authorities. In other words, he doesn't want 399 00:22:08,110 --> 00:22:11,470 to even have any knowledge about people being killed, because 400 00:22:11,470 --> 00:22:13,550 then he would be an accessory after the fact. 401 00:22:13,550 --> 00:22:16,360 Of course. By contrast, former Navy pot 402 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,920 commander David Favor, sitting next to garage, said that he and 403 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,160 other pilots had witnessed UA P's had been treated very well. 404 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,720 Well, they witnessed UA P's. They didn't find out about where 405 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,480 the bodies are buried at. Then we get into 406 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,920 misappropriation of funds. You always follow the money. 407 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,360 So we're talking about a whistleblower reprisal program. 408 00:22:36,360 --> 00:22:40,560 Well, what would they care about reprising against whistleblowers 409 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:44,830 if UF O's weren't real? They wouldn't, But they would 410 00:22:44,830 --> 00:22:50,390 care if they had stolen a bunch of money under the guise of UFO 411 00:22:50,390 --> 00:22:55,590 research, or if they had commandeered UFO meta material, 412 00:22:55,590 --> 00:22:59,590 or maybe even UFO biologics, as they call them. 413 00:22:59,950 --> 00:23:04,310 And we're currently monetizing those commodities, goes on it 414 00:23:04,310 --> 00:23:05,990 says. Grush alleged that aerospace and 415 00:23:05,990 --> 00:23:10,110 weapons manufacturers were siphoning money off government 416 00:23:10,110 --> 00:23:13,990 contracts and plowing it into unsanctioned research projects 417 00:23:14,030 --> 00:23:19,150 and advanced technology. Oh my goodness, you mean like a 418 00:23:19,150 --> 00:23:21,950 black budget? That we already know they have. 419 00:23:22,710 --> 00:23:26,230 The Secretary of Defense does have the authority to deny 420 00:23:26,230 --> 00:23:30,110 congressional oversight of particularly sensitive special 421 00:23:30,110 --> 00:23:35,070 access programs, or SA P's. But the group of high-powered 422 00:23:35,070 --> 00:23:38,580 congressional leaders known as the Gang of 8 is at least 423 00:23:38,580 --> 00:23:41,940 supposed to be informed, which Gresh said didn't happen in this 424 00:23:41,940 --> 00:23:46,140 case. So Congress has prostituted out 425 00:23:46,140 --> 00:23:50,500 their authority to the Defense Department, giving them money 426 00:23:50,500 --> 00:23:52,300 that they have no accountability for. 427 00:23:53,260 --> 00:23:55,820 How is this even acceptable in a free country? 428 00:23:56,180 --> 00:24:00,340 Really Ask yourself. And if they would hide that and 429 00:24:00,340 --> 00:24:03,980 if Congress would collude with the Deep State because that's 430 00:24:03,980 --> 00:24:08,050 what this is it. They answered the no man to 431 00:24:08,050 --> 00:24:09,730 cover up where this money is being spent out. 432 00:24:09,730 --> 00:24:11,490 Why wouldn't they cover it up to hide UF O's? 433 00:24:11,690 --> 00:24:15,330 And if somebody threatened to expose those UF O's, wouldn't 434 00:24:15,330 --> 00:24:20,690 they maybe form a UFO whistleblower reprisal 435 00:24:20,690 --> 00:24:22,370 committee? I don't know. 436 00:24:22,850 --> 00:24:25,570 Ask how such a secret program. It's funny you said I will give 437 00:24:25,570 --> 00:24:28,210 you generalities. I can get very specific in a 438 00:24:28,210 --> 00:24:31,370 closed session. But misappropriation of funds, 439 00:24:31,570 --> 00:24:34,690 they just steal the money. Do you think US corporations are 440 00:24:34,690 --> 00:24:37,170 overcharging for certain tech? They're slowing to the US 441 00:24:37,170 --> 00:24:39,820 government, and that additional money is going into programs. 442 00:24:40,180 --> 00:24:44,060 Representative Mask was asked. Correct those through something 443 00:24:44,060 --> 00:24:48,580 called IREN, where? I said, referring to the Infosec 444 00:24:48,580 --> 00:24:52,060 Research and Engineering Network, a joint search, a joint 445 00:24:52,100 --> 00:24:55,620 research and development venture between several corporate 446 00:24:55,780 --> 00:24:59,380 weapons contractors. And people think that we live in 447 00:24:59,380 --> 00:25:02,300 a free, democratic, capitalistic society. 448 00:25:03,060 --> 00:25:07,400 Not quite, Not quite. You got you've got giant 449 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,080 corporations partnering with government to make all kinds of 450 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,800 cool discoveries and then sell them to you at exorbitantly high 451 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,840 prices. Press for details. 452 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,680 Gres said he could reveal more equalization and offer 453 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:25,920 Representative Alicia Okacia, Cortez Democrat in New York, a 454 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,760 list of corporations and sites to begin targeting. 455 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,320 I'm sure she'll get right on that. 456 00:25:32,360 --> 00:25:34,240 I'd be happy to give you that in closed environment. 457 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,720 I can tell you I can't. I can tell you specifically, 458 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,320 Grush responded. So yes, he's telling you. 459 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,880 I can tell you whether bodies are buried or at least where I 460 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,360 was told they were buried at. But we got to be careful because 461 00:25:48,360 --> 00:25:50,920 I've been threatened. My wife's been threatened. 462 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,600 We've all been threatened. What's Tim Bertrand say? 463 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,240 They've been threatened. Been threatened by this 464 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:01,080 whistleblower reprisal program. Just deeper than we thought. 465 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,640 Way deeper. Until next time, this is UFO 466 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:05,840 warning. Over and out.