Hello and welcome to the podcast UFO Warning.
In this episode, we're talking about Anna Paulina Luna's
message. That's right, Anna Paulina
Luna's message. Of course, she's a gal there.
That is Republican congressperson from Florida.
Some strange things happening. This first article is from Daily
Mail. dailymail.co.uk Title says UFO believing Congresswoman
Anapolina Luna's cryptic message has everyone saying the same
thing. Written by Stacy Liberatore for
dailymail.com this is dated February 4th, 2025.
Starts off it says a Florida Congresswoman who believes some
UFOs are non are of non human origin has teased a major
announcement in the coming days. Representative Anna Polina Luna
who was Privy to classified UAP files posted she has an
announcement next week that will impact the entire nation.
I just want to interject here. I've seen Congressman Tim
Berchett talk about these hearings where they have where
they take him into a skiff unit and they view these files that
they've classified and he he seems to think that basically a
lot of times they just do that to keep the congressman from
talking about it. And maybe there's some way
around that she's found, I don't know.
Americans filled the comments with a single idea that UAP
disclosure is finally coming. UAP, or unidentified anomalous
phenomena, has replaced UFO to reduce stigma and encourage
scientific study. Florida Congressman Jared
Muskowski, Democrat, also commented on the post with a
simple I know. dailymail.com asked Moskowitz if Luna's
statement was about UAP disclosure, to which the
representative said she did not want to get ahead of her.
Well, Luna has not provided further details about what is to
come. She and Moskowitz were part of a
secret UFO briefing last month to investigate claims from a
high profile whistleblower. Reports suggested that members
of Congress were left with little clarity about what the
government knows about extraterrestrial life.
Well, the government or the deep state?
Because I think there's definitely a difference.
However, Luna Mauskowitz and the other lawmakers were banned by
law for relaying what they heard during the closed door briefing.
Now, this is called compartmentalization.
It's where you just are able to trap the information into these
different compartments where people aren't allowed to talk
about it. And they can use all sorts of
deception to do that. It has a Twitter here from, I
guess, an exit, call it now from her representative, Annapolina
Luna. And then it says, I have
announced, I have an announcement next week that will
impact the entire nation. Press conference date will be
announced soon. You know, I would not, I would
not postpone this if I was her. And we'll get into this whole
concept of wet weather pretty quick here now, it says.
dailymail.com has reached out to Luna for comment.
Luna is a member of the House Committee on Oversight and
Reform, which has been investigating claims about UFOs
and carrying out historic hearings with military
whistleblowers. She and Maskowitz are also Co
sponsors of the UAP Transparency Act, introduced in 2024, which
requires the president to direct all federal agencies and
departments to make all documents relating to Uaps
available to the public within 270 days.
That's a long time. Luna's post shared Monday has
more than 3000 comments, many of which suggest the big
announcement about Uaps. You know, I think at best we can
hope for a limited hangout, but who knows, maybe she'll get
something out of there. Maybe some little bit of
information will escape. We can only hope. 1EX user asked
if she would be announcing it through the UAP Disclosure Act,
while many other comments just asked her if it if it was
aliens. I don't think that UAP
Disclosure Act actually passed to become law.
Several ex users raised the fact that Luna said the announcement
would impact the world, questioning the idea of alien
life being exposed. If it was related to UAP
disclosure, it would have a worldwide impact.
Therefore, this is not related to UAP disclosure.
Shared UAP one, Huh. Well, I'm not sure how they draw
that conclusion, but whatever. While many people agreed with
him, another user shared her responsibility is to our nation,
not the world. It would be inappropriate to
assume world changing things. Even if it was US disclosure,
other nations would have disclosed if they had the means
too long ago. Yeah, I I don't think she's
really looking at this from a world viewpoint.
I think she's like, I think this person is correct.
It's just all part of the, you know, how this impacts American
citizens. I mean, she's a congressperson
after all, goes on down here. It says the secret briefing in
January reportedly focused on claims by David Grush, who said
the government has recovered non human bodies from UFO Christ
sites. Now, I've done a couple shows on
David Grush. I personally think that he's a
sincere person who's being honest.
Now, I don't know if what he says is true or not true.
I don't think that he's intentionally misleading people
personally. He seems sincere and honest.
And, you know, we went over that, oh, last year sometime, I
think it was. He was interviewed by a
journalist and the description of David Gresh made him seem a
little paranoid and maybe he has been threatened.
And that's what kind of comes in with this whole idea of whether
this idea that there's ACIA project out there that was put
in place decades ago to deal with whistleblowers who became a
threat to the secrecy of this whole UFO thing now goes on.
And says. Gresh, a former high-ranking
intelligence official, was one of three military whistleblowers
who testified Underoath in 2023 that they had first hand
encounters or knowledge about secret government programs
involving technology that is non human.
He claimed that the US has been in position of UFOs since the
1930s and has been secretly back engineering them and carrying
out a public disinformation campaign to prevent the details
from leaking publicly. Representative Tim Burchett,
Republican Tennessee, held the hearing with Luna and asked
Grush personally. Have you heard anyone has been
murdered? Grush replied.
I have to be careful answering that question.
I directed people with that knowledge to the appropriate
authorities. That's a little spooky right
there. The Pentagon has denied the
claims. The January briefing was said to
provide some evidence to support Grush's testimony was factual,
but lawmakers did not reveal exact details.
This is the first real briefing that we've had that we've now
made, I would say, progress on some of the claims Mr. Gresh has
made. Ask what's told the New York
Times. This is the first time we kind
of got a ruling on what the IG thinks of those claims.
Luna echoed the statements, saying lawmakers are continually
being stonewalled. We are authorizing money that is
supposed to be spent on certain programs, and yet there is a
compartmentalization in which Congress doesn't have access to
oversight in those programs, she added.
And that's a problem. Well, what did we hear about all
the money that's missing that's been sent to Ukraine or the 2
trillion or whatever it is that the Defense Department can't
account for? I mean, it's on and on and on.
And it's a, it's become generational theft at this
point. Doesn't really seem to matter
who's in office. But maybe this time, since Trump
has faced arrest and life in prison, he'll have enough.
He'll have enough in him to go after some of these guys.
I don't know, this whole thing about Gresh having his life
threatened or knowing the people that had been maybe possibly
murdered, It's kind of what they're alluding to.
This goes back to this Operation Wet Weather that we've talked
about. It's it's nothing that's
actually been proven. Of course, it's just speculated
and I did maybe it's been a couple years ago or longer, I
don't know. I did a YouTube video on this
and YouTube was not happy. I got, you know, got my account.
I think it might have been suspended for a while or
something, I don't remember. But anyway, they got real nasty
about it. I've talked about in the podcast
before and Spotify has been real cool about it.
I'm not saying this is factual, I'm just saying this is
something somebody's written about now.
Why? I went to do a little research
on it today and I couldn't find anything on it.
It's like stuff's just been cleaned.
But I did get a ChatGPT to comment on it a little bit, at
least open to the idea, which was surprising.
I said tell me what you know about Operation Wet Weather is
it deals with threats to UFO secrecy.
And ChatGPT says I couldn't find any widely known or declassified
references to Operation Wet Weather.
That's interesting. They couldn't find any widely
known or declassified references you got to make.
I just wonder if there's something out there that GT
ChatGPT knows about but can't tell me.
I don't know. I'm afraid to ask because
honestly, I don't want to see classified stuff.
I don't need to have a SWAT team breaking in my door at 3:00 in
the morning. I surely don't have the money to
defend myself. I mean, the, the revenue that
this podcast generates is is is tiny, miniscule I, I can hardly
pay for the Internet connection with that little alone hired
defense lawyer to keep myself from being locked up in an
underground prison somewhere. So no, I'm not interested in
classified reports from G from ChatGPT.
But I do find this but curious that they described it that way
and then it goes on and says. However, if this is an obscure
or speculative operation tied to UFO cover ups, it could be a
subject of classified intelligence or deep state
secrecy theories. Could you clarify where you've
come across this term? It might be linked to something
like Project Blue Book, Majestic 12, or other government efforts
to control UFO related information.
I'm interested in hearing more about what you know.
That comment is interesting. It's also a little odd.
I can assure ChatGPT and Google that I don't know anything else.
I'm that's why I'm asking them. So yeah, I'm they should know
this. I'm sure they go through my
computer thoroughly whenever they want to, right?
Don't they? All of us?
It says that's an and then so I went ahead and I asked and I
said it is supposed to, it is a supposed CIA operation to
silence UFO whistleblowers. And one of the earliest victims
may have been JFK. Now, of course, we talked about
this in the podcast, that there's this theory, conspiracy
theory if you will, that JFJFK had ordered the CIA to release
UFO files to him and that it was shortly after this release order
direction directed by him that he ended up unalived in Dallas,
TX. That might have been one reason
among many, who knows? There's a lot of things that he
was doing that made the deep state very angry.
It says that's an interest. That's an intriguing angle.
The idea that Operation Wet, whether it was ACIA initiative
to silence UFO whistleblowers, possibly even linked to JFK's
assassination, would place it alongside some of the more
covert theories regarding UFO secrecy.
There's long been speculation that Kennedy was interested in
UFOs and wanted to declassify certain files.
Some researchers point to a memo from JFK to the CIA dated
November 12th, 1963, just 10 days before his assassination,
where he requested access to classified UFO files.
This has fueled theories that elements within the intelligence
community saw him as a threat to UFO secrecy.
The name Operation Wet Weather itself is interesting.
If it was real, the term wet could be a reference to
assassination, similar to the Russian intelligence phrase wet
work, meaning operations involving bloodshed.
That would imply it was more than just an effort to suppress
information, but potentially a program targeting individuals.
And then it says, do you know of any specific sources or
documents that mentioning this operation?
It doesn't seem to be widely known, but if it's real it could
be one of the missing links in the UFO cover up puzzle.
That's that's strange. I mean, to me ChatGPT is really
giving a very open minded answer to this and comes across as
being very sincere and curious. Who knows, maybe this is just
some high level psychological warfare being waged on me.
I don't know, but that's that's what it said.
This is AI is becoming something else.
I can tell you that. Now if we go back here and look
at Grush, we can just kind of refresh your memory just a
little bit. This article is from apnews.com.
Whistleblower tells Congress the US is concealing multi decade
program that captures UFOs. And it's got a picture of Mr.
Grush here at that. Testimony about what a year ago
this year? Article stated July 26th, 2023.
the US is concealing a long standing program that retrieves
and reverse engineers unidentified flying objects, A
former Air Force intelligence officer testified Wednesday to
Congress. The Pentagon has denied his
claims. So this is what they're talking
about. Maybe they're going to come
forward and make some announcement.
Here, Retired Major David Grush's highly anticipated
testimony before a House Oversight subcommittee was
Congress slash foray into the world of Uaps, or Unidentified
Aerial Phenomena, which is the official term the US government
uses instead of UFOs. While the study of mysterious
aircraft or objects often evokes talk of aliens and little green
men, Democrats and Republicans in the recent years have pushed
for more research as a national security matter due to concerns
that sightings observed by pilots may be tied to US
adversaries. Grush said that he was asked in
2019 by the head of a government task force on Uaps to identify
all highly classified programs relating to the task force
mission. At that time, Grush was detailed
to the National Reconnaissance Office, the agency that operates
US spy satellites. Then it goes on down here, says,
quote, I was informed in the course of my official duties of
a multi decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse
engineering program, to which I was denied access, he said.
You wonder why they would even tell him then.
I mean, if they weren't going to give him access, why would they
tell him in an official capacity?
Like I said, could be limited hangout, but I don't know.
Ask whether the US government had information about
extraterrestrial life. Grush said the US likely has
been aware of non human activity since the 1930's.
The Pentagon has denied Grush's claims of a cover up, and the
statement, Defense Department spokeswoman Sue GAO said, said
investigations have not discovered any verifiable
information to sustainable claims that any programs
regarding the position or reverse engineering of
extraterrestrial materials have existed in the past or exist
currently. What's lawyers speak right
there. The statement did not address
UFOs that are not suspected of being extraterrestrial objects.
Grush says he became a government whistleblower after
his discovery and has faced retaliation for coming forward.
He declined to be more specific about their territory tactics,
citing an ongoing investigation. Yeah, and that that podcast we
did, you know, they were talking about him.
I think actually even wearing a wearing a sidearm, he was not
concerned about it. It was very brutal and very
unfortunate. Some of the tactics they used to
hurt me both professionally and personally.
He said there was I read articles about him having some
kind of a health crisis and having his mental health records
released, which seemed pretty sketchy to me.
That Representative Glenn Grothman, Republican Wisconsin,
shared the panel's hearing and joke to a packed audience.
Welcome to the most exciting subcommittee in Congress this
week. There was bipartisan interest in
Grush's claims and a more sober tone than other recent hearings
featuring whistleblowers celebrated by Republicans and
criticized by Democrats. Lawmakers in both parties asked
Grush about his study of UFOs and consequences he faced and
how they could find out more about the government's UFP
programs. Quote, I take it that you're
arguing what we need is real transparency and reporting
systems so we can get some clarity on what's going on out
there, UN quote, said Representative Jamie Ramscon,
Democrat Maryland. Some lawmakers criticize the
Pentagon for not providing more details in a classified briefing
or releasing images that could be shown to the public.
In previous hearings, Pentagon officials showed a video taken
from an F18 military plane that showed an image of one balloon
like object. Well, maybe they were just
trying to create enough doubt in people's mind that they would
quit pursuing this stuff. Pentagon officials in December
said they had received several hundreds of new reports since
launching Since launching a renewed effort to investigate
reports of UFOs. At that point, we have not seen
anything, and we're still very early on that would lead us to
believe that any of the objects that we have seen are of alien
origin. That said, Ronald Moultrie, the
Under Secretary of defense for intelligence and security, any
unauthorized system in our airspace we deem as a threat to
safety. Kind of a run on sentencer.
I don't know. Yeah.
Well, that's how this whole thing started, and it looks like
maybe she's going to finish it. I don't know.
There's one other thing I want to take a look at here real
quick. Now, just as a side note, this
whole to this whole thing with David Grush and his revelations,
we have to remember there was also that whole thing about the
Immaculate constellation and Jeremy Korbel was involved in
that, and I remembered him being angry about not getting credit.
I couldn't find a whole lot on it, but I just remember some
remarks being made. I think it's important not to
alienate any allies that we might have in Congress, even
though I don't expect a lot of disclosure to come out of that.
Even with a limited hangout, we might be able to sift through
what's said and get a little bit closer to the truth.
Who knows? I want to look at this article
here, and then we'll wrap this up.
This is from paranormalinsight.co.uk, says
Jeremy Corbell. And Immaculate Constellation
When Ego Overshadows UFO Disclosure kind of gets into
this whole thing about when we have these UFO celebrities, or
sometimes I call them these kind of the made men or even a few
made women of the UFO mafia. When they clash with members of
Congress, things can get pretty strange, says Jeremy Korbel, a
prominent figure in UFO research.
And I just have to say I do like a lot of his work.
I thought Patient 17 was really a good documentary, even with
all the cursing. I just thought that it was
cinematic, that it got to the point and it really, really
touched me on a kind of an emotional and on a, and on a
intellectual level. So I'm not dissing that guy.
I'm just saying he can be a little volatile sometimes.
But you know, I mean, I have all the respect in the world for him
now. Jeremy Corbeil, a prominent
figure in UFO research, has made significant contributions to
public interest in unidentified anonymous phenomena known for
documentaries like Bob Lazar, Area 51 and Flying Saucers.
And hunt for the Skinwalker ranch.
I'm surprised he didn't put Patients 17 in there.
That's just one of the greatest implant movies ever.
I think. Korbel has established himself
as a leading researcher in the field.
However, his career has also been marked by controversies,
with critics point to his tendency to to prioritize
personal recognition over the pursuit of truth.
His recent public outburst over the Immaculate Constellation
Report featured in UFO Revolution Season 2 adds to a
growing list of incidents that raise questions about his
professionalism and priorities. Now I will say this in his
defense, I'm looking back, you know, when I when I was going to
university, what seems like a century ago now.
But I remember that one of the professors talking about how
making a little joke about people getting angry because
they weren't cited properly in research papers, but that's her
craft and trade with these guys. So they demand to be cited.
Maybe that's kind of his thing too.
I mean, this is his job is he's a journalist.
And when he's not cited properly, probably feels like
he's been given a shaft. So I can understand him being
upset, but you know, they're not going to let it go.
It says the Immaculate Constellation report is tied to
allegations of a secret U.S. Department of Defense program
allegedly managing UAP phenomena without traditional knowledge or
authorization, purported to be an unacknowledged Special Access
Program, or USAP. USAP.
I think that's, I think that that is where the taxpayers are,
the SAPS. This program is said to involve
identifying, monitoring, and potentially retrieving Uaps.
The report suggests that the US government may have engaged in
these activities for decades. The claim the government
officially denies. Now for all those people that
are so silly to think that we don't have a deep state, well,
this is the deep state right here.
These, these unacknowledged spatial access programs where
the government is legally allowed to spend, I don't know,
billions of dollars, maybe trillions, I don't know, on
programs that you and I don't have access.
And I think there's only like, I think it's called the Gang of
eight. There's like 8 different
Congress people that are allowed to know about these things.
And I mean, honestly, what would they know?
I know, like I know Marco Rubio was a member of that.
So I certain ones have access to this stuff.
OK. So it goes on and says Korbel
played a significant role in bringing this report to light.
He provided 12 page document allegedly sourced from a
whistleblower within the program to members of Congress.
The document aimed to expose the program's operation and compel
further investigation. However, controversy arose when
a critical cover letter written by Korbel was omitted from the
document submitted to Congress, raising questions about the
completeness and credibility of the information.
And it's got a point because if he handed them the 12 page
document and he put a cover letter on it, even if it was
kind of just to get his name out there, they should have left it
because this helps establish a chain of custody.
And too many times in these things we see, we get this
evidence, but we have no chain of custody or the chain of
custody is very opaque. So I kind of have to side with
Jeremy on this. The situation became even more
convoluted during a congressional hearing when
Republican Representative Nancy Mace credited journalist Michael
Schoenberger for delivering the report.
Korbel insisted that he personally handed the document,
including his omitted cover letter, to a congressional aide.
This discrepancy triggered a public confrontation between
Korbel, Mace and Shellenberger, overshadowing the report itself.
I'm not sure if I would have had that confrontation with him.
I mean, OK, maybe what happened here wasn't correct, but he
could have probably went about this in a way, could have went
on a podcast, could have explained to somebody and said,
look, I gave this to the aid and you know, this is what happened.
The people in the community I think are going to respect that.
But making it this aid, who knows what she's going to say to
Mace. I mean, unless, unless he should
have probably had a lawyer with him.
I mean, honestly, if I had something like this that
involved information that may given to me, given to me by a
whistleblower, which myself, I would never do that.
But if I was in Jeremy's position and having done that, I
would, I would have involved legal counsel for sure.
And then we could have had everything documented so that
maybe that report hadn't been subtracted from or added to
along the way to somehow implicate me and spreading state
secrets or whatever. So to me, that's risky, just
handing off this paper, hey, somebody gave me this and giving
it to an aide. I've never, ever, ever do that.
Definitely would want to have at least at least one good lawyer
involved and then you could document this or or even use his
state representative or whoever. But yeah, you start handing
stuff off to AIDS in the hallway somewhere.
This is the kind of stuff that happens.
So anyway, it goes on and says in response to the perceived
slight, Korbel recorded an emotional outburst where he
expressed anger over not being credited for the report.
Look, if this thing goes sideways, not being credited for
that report might be the best thing they could have ever done
for him. So, yeah, I don't know.
Instead of addressing the situation privately, Korbel
chose to include this footage in the premiere episode of UFO
Revolution Season 2, shifting the focus of the show from UAP
disclosure to his personal feelings.
That is something I would not have done.
The payoff might be there in the beginning, but now you're going
to anger this Rep. And she's real popular.
She could be in there for the next 20 years.
And who knows who she's connected to.
So I, I don't see any. I don't see anything good coming
of that. I think I would have personally
just have maybe had a private conversation about it, but kind
of let it slide and hoping that eventually she would become
aware that, hey, this actually this is this came from me and
maybe you guys could build on that relationship down the road
handling it this way. Man, you're burning some
bridges. Burning bridges, I suppose, is
fine. Like if he'd been falsely
accused of something, it was some terrible crime.
But like not getting credit for something, that's not something
that's worth burning bridges for, from my perspective.
But that's just me. This decision highlights
Korbel's recurring pattern of making himself the center of
attention in his work while his passion is evident.
Such behavior detracts from the seriousness of the topic he
covers, potentially damaging his credibility and the broader
reputation of UFO research. Corbell's actions in this
incident reflect poorly on his professionalism and objectivity.
By prioritizing personal recognition and broadcasting his
frustration, he risk alienating colleagues, audiences, and even
policy makers who might otherwise engage with his work.
This pattern of self promotion has been a reoccurring critique
throughout his career, with critics arguing that his
approach often sensationalizes the subject matter rather than
advancing it with rigor and credibility.
The timing of his controversy is particularly unfortunate, as UAP
research is gaining unprecedented attention.
Recent congressional hearings, whistleblower testimonies, and
media coverage have created a unique opportunity for serious
discussions about Uaps and government transparency.
However, incidents like Korbel's outburst threatened to undermine
this momentum by reinforcing stereotypes of UFO researchers
as unprofessional and ego driven.
The confusion surrounding the Immaculate Constellation report
also raises concerns about the handling of critical
information. If key figures in the field
appear disorganized or self-serving, it diminishes
public trust and distracts from the ultimate goal of disclosure.
It's a very, very good of assessment of the chain of
custody's importance here, I believe goes on and says Jeremy
Korbel's contributions to UFO research are significant, but
his tendency to focus on himself continues to undermine his
credibility. The Immaculate Constellation
controversy is a stark reminder of how personal disputes and
public outbursts can detract from the larger mission of UFO
disclosure. For the field to gain
legitimacy, its leading figures must prioritize collaboration,
transparency, and professionalism over personal
validation. Without this shift, incidents
like Corbell's outburst risk stalling the progress made in
bringing UAP research into the mainstream.
Man, that was really a well written article.
I got to give it up. They don't have the person's
name written here anywhere. It's crazy.
It's great writing. I'm not seeing an author
anywhere. It's just got the.
It's got the website paranormalinsight.co.uk.
Very, very well written. Yeah.
So maybe this is what she's going to talk about.
Maybe there's something about coming out about this Immaculate
constellation. If it does come out.
I'm just hoping that Jeremy doesn't get so upset that he has
an explosion on Twitter or YouTube or something.
And, and basically blots out any cool stuff that she releases.
I don't know that this is what you run into.
I mean, you've got politics of the federal kind, politics of
the personal kind. But the most important part of
this whole thing, I think, is just getting any little bit of
knowledge that we can out there to where we can all examine it
and have a good long look at it. Until next time.
This is UFO warning over and out.