Hello and welcome to the program UFO Warning.
In this episode, we're talking about the Tic Tac cover up.
That's correct, the Tic Tac cover up.
There's been so much talk in the news lately of the Tic Tac
videos, Louis Elizondo, a lot of the other folks involved with
the release of those videos. And I just found it pretty
amazing that this article pops up to us from the
dailymail.co.uk. Title says witnesses to 2004 Tic
Tac shaped UFO sighting reveal shocking cover up of infamous
USS Nimitz encounter goes on and says.
Written by Josh Boswell and Chris Sharp for dailymail.com
published August 23rd, 2024 Witnesses to an infamous 2004
UFO incident revealed Tic Tacs, that's plural.
Spotted flying at incredible speeds by top Navy pilots off
the California coast were also picked up on a sonar speeding
underwater. Wow. 2 Navy officers told
dailymail.com that masses of high quality radar, sonar and
other data of the strange craft sent to a naval base on shore as
they accused the government of a cover up after the Pentagon
claimed the data is nowhere to be found.
And imagine that a source who investigated the incident for
the Department of Defense told dailymail.com that they were
briefed about the sonar data from a nearby submarine that
tracked the UFOs moving at more than 460 mph underwater during
the shocking November 2004 encounter.
Can you imagine that? 460 miles an hour underwater?
This impossible speeds for anything that we have, at least
that we know of. This almost seems to me like
this would almost have to violate the laws of physics.
This is incredible. Ahead of the 20th anniversary of
the storied Nimitz incident, their revelations added a new
intriguing dimension to the most prominent UFO case in recent
history. On November 14th, 2004, Top
gunfighter pilot David Frevor was flying a training exercise
off the coast of San Diego when he was rerouted to investigate a
strange object spotted on radar by warships protecting his
aircraft carrier, the USS Nimitz.
What he found was a roughly 40 foot white object with no
windows or wings, shaped like a Tic Tac, flooding about above
the sea that was rolling below it, disturbed by something large
submerged beneath the surface. Commander Flavour told Congress
last year that as he circled the object it turned to mirror his
movements, then shot off past him at thousands of mph, somehow
stopping a second later at a secret pre designated rendezvous
.60 miles away that only he and a handful of Navy staff on his
ship were given ahead of their training exercise.
So this thing knew where these guys were going at.
So in other words, not only can it do all these super fast
maneuvers that are unbelievable, knows the plans of the US Navy
as far as where they're going to position their fighter aircraft
before they get there. And on top of that, it seems to
be coordinating that movement with this underwater USO he
talks about seeing. So we've got UFOs above the
water, unidentified submersible objects below the water.
And it's as if they've broken our code.
They know where our planes are going before they get there.
And they're tracking these planes and doing things
underwater 460 mile per hour, doing things above, in the sky,
above the water, traveling at thousands of mph, stopping on a
dime, something a human body could never endure.
And they're doing an adult right in front of our own fighter
planes. This is, this is, this is crazy.
Fellow F18 pilot Lieutenant Chad Underwood then flew out and
caught the object on video footage that was published by
the New York Times in 2017, igniting a firestorm of intrigue
about the government's knowledge of UFOs.
Yet it also ignited a firestorm of intrigue from me because
you've got this video laying around for 13 years, and we
don't know how the New York Times got a hold of it.
We certainly don't know how Tom Delong got a hold of the video,
published it on his website with his giant watermark splashed all
over it. A lot of things that this
article leaves out, actually, as far as chain of custody of that
video goes. So that's what really gets me
about these newspaper articles. They talk about the video.
All right, it's cool. But in order to even know this
thing is not a hoax, you have to have a chain of custody.
So why don't they talk a little bit more about the chain of
custody and Louis Elizondo and Chris Mellon's alleged
involvement in the release of that stuff?
Kevin Day was the senior chief operations specialist aboard the
USS Princeton at the time, in charge of monitoring the skies
with radar to protect Nimitz. He told dailymail.com that in
the 10 days prior to the incident, he saw similar objects
on his radar behaving inexplicably.
Day said groups of about 10 objects were repeatedly detected
80,000 feet above them where the Earth's atmosphere becomes
space, dropping down to 20,000 feet in less than a second, then
following the ships by flying through the air at a relatively
leisurely 115 mph before zooming off toward Guadalupe Island off
the coast of Mexico, where they seem to disappear under the sea.
Wow, now that's amazing. A lot of cool things here to
unpackage. Number one of these UFOs were
flying at 80,000 feet and in dropping down to 20,000 feet in
less than a second. I mean, the negative GS would
just rip a human body apart. There's no way that they could,
they could withstand this. Even the materials we have.
Then it says this is interesting.
Then following the ships by flying through the air at a
relatively leisurely 115 mile per hour.
If it was following the ships, I mean, how fast do those ships
go? 115 mph?
I mean, you wouldn't think you'd be following them very long.
Then it says before zooming off toward Guadalupe Island off the
coast of Mexico, where they seem to disappear under the sea.
So then they're in the water. First they're at 80,000 feet.
They just drop down to 20,000 feet in less than a second.
Now, look, you couldn't fall that fast.
Then they followed the fleet of ships at 115 mile per hour.
I suppose we're catching up with them.
Can't imagine those ships are actually going 115 mile an hour
and then they zoom off toward Guadalupe Island off of Mexico.
Then they disappear under the sea where we know that they've
told us that these things have been recorded at 460 mph.
That's that's amazing. The the really weird thing was a
single object would leave the group and travel very slowly
right over the top of us at between 20 to 28,000 feet at
about 100 knots, which was really slow.
It would just track above us, and then the next one would
depart, and the next one, he added.
All the groups did that. All 100 of them, to the best of
my knowledge, disappeared in the same spot in the sky.
And that spot was about 60 miles north of an island off the coast
of Mexico called Guadalupe Island.
Everyone was looking at me like, what is this?
And I didn't have good answers. We agreed just to track and
report. Of course, we made our
intentions known to the Admiral on the Nimitz.
The story has become one of the strongest examples of other
worldly crafts routinely encountered by the military in
US airspace. But the story gets stranger from
theredailymail.com can reveal that unknown objects were also
allegedly recorded zooming around underwater during the
incident. A senior sonar officer on board
the USS Princeton at the time told comrades that while Day was
seeing objects dropping from space and Fraver was dog
fighting with the Tic Tac, his team was picking up sonar
returns for objects in the water.
This shocking revelation marks a new element to the infamous
story 20 years after it occurred.
Shawn Cahill was a chief master at Arms on the Princeton, and
from its deck he says he saw lights in the sky matching the
movements of the object they saw on his radar.
He says a senior officer on the Princeton later told him about
the underwater data. I was shopping at the local Navy
commissary about a mile from my house.
I bumped into a former shipmate who worked in the sonar
department and was active during the exercise.
He said they were practically all the way around us.
He goes, man, we were tracking things underwater just as much
as they were tracking them in the air during that exercise.
It's almost like they were having their own exercise as
these guys were having the exercise for the US ships.
The top sonar tech, who asked not to be named, did not dispute
the story when contacted by dailymail.com but declined to
elaborate. A source who worked as a senior
official in defense intelligence told dailymail.com that they
investigated the incident several years later and were
briefed on sonar data recorded by AUS submarine in the area of
the Nimitz carrier strike group. The source said that the sub
sonar caught the UFO traveling at more than 400 knots, or 460
mph through the water in the vicinity of the ships.
They said that the ships in the group built a three-dimensional
picture from combining their sophisticated radar and sonar,
and that all the data was combined and sent to a naval
base in San Diego. We shared all the combat
information, put it on a data link and sent it back to the
beach. So anybody who was interested in
these things, they could see our data.
He said there's underwater stations called SOSUS and we
also have toad array, so we have those three sonar devices going
off for each ship. All the ships are feeding the
composite picture, so we have a really good three-dimensional
picture underneath the water. He said these records would
routinely be kept for decades, but the Pentagon official
charged with investigating UFO incidents claimed that he
couldn't find any data on the Nimitz incident.
Imagine that. My opinion is that one is going
to remain unresolved because there is no data.
There is no radar data, Doctor Sean Kirkpatrick, the recently
retired head of the All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office, said
in a March 2024 interview. I think the Tic Tac is so far
back in time, there's no data. We went and looked for all of
it. Now I have to call total
nonsense on this. If you've ever had any kind of,
if you've ever, if you've ever had a business say, I think that
you have to keep your taxes for what is it 14 years.
Now all of your, all of your business data.
Look, these guys keep records of everything.
It never goes away. It's all put somewhere in a file
on file in a file cabinet on a computer.
I don't believe for one second that this all happened.
All this data was logged. It was put together into a whole
package, sent to some Navy facility to be analyzed, and now
it's just gone. Please.
So here's Chiang Kirkpatrick, who knows how much he made.
There is head at Arrow at the top, depending on employee, GS15
or whatever. Like Louis was 160 grand a year,
159. So he's making at least that
much to do what? I mean, we're paying these guys,
you know, with benefits probably close to $200,000 a year to blow
smoke in her face. It's crazy.
The Seminole case was also glossed over in an historical
report released by a ARO depending on UFO Investigation
Office on March 6th, 2024. I would say that thing was
anything but historical, unless you want to say that it was an
historical whitewash. That's what I would call that.
Cahill and Day say Kirkpatrick is wrong and could even be
deliberately trying to hide the truth.
And no kidding, those things are available for decades of the
most mundane events that happened in everyday operations.
They should be there for all the vessels that were there, but
they're all missing, say, Cahill.
It seems like purposal obfuscation to me.
It seems like a dereliction of duty for them not to investigate
what is the most famous, well documented case of UAP activity
that we have with the most amount of witnesses, the most
amount of assets placed on it. And it's public now.
They completely ignored it. Well, maybe.
Or maybe they're just not telling you.
I think he should give all his money back that he took and
salaried. They said I could agree with
that. They said Kirkpatrick should
have. They also had access to high
fidelity radar and satellite data from the North American
Aerospace Defense Command, NORAD and the National Air and Space
Intelligence Center, NASAC that would have picked up the Tic Tac
and the other UFOs tracked by their warships in 2004.
Others on the ship at the time say the tapes with data of the
incident were erased and taken by mysterious visitors in flight
suits. Now, we've talked about this
before, Men of black showing up on that ship, picking up that
brick, Petty Officer Gary Voorhees told engineering news
site Popular Mechanics in 2019. These two guys showed up on a
helicopter, which wasn't uncommon, but shortly after they
arrived, maybe 20 minutes, I was told by my cabin command to turn
over all the data recordings for the AGIS radar system.
They even told me to erase everything that's in the shop,
even the blank tapes. The men were spotted returning
with a bunch of bags. Another witness on the ship
leading Petty Officer Ryan. We get told Popular Mechanics
reports of objects moving rapidly and in inexplicable ways
underwater as the alleged were around the Nimitz in 2004.
Our less well known frontier in the UFO topic, but they are
increasingly coming under scrutiny and now even have their
own name, Unidentified Submerged Objects, or US OS.
Yeah, they've been called that for quite a long while,
actually. UFO expert and author Richard
Dolan has set to release a book on the topic this year called
The History of US OS, The True Story of Anomalous Craft in the
Earth's Bodies of Water. It documents more than 600
cases, including extraordinary incidents of objects picked up
by submarine radar, moving faster than torpedoes and
executing impossible right angle turns hundreds of feet below the
surface of the ocean. For every one of these UFO
stories, there's probably close to 100 you don't know.
It's often sheer luck that they come out, Dolan told
dailymail.com. One of the shocking things that
I've seen in my last two years of USO research is a number of
nuclear powered aircraft carriers encountering objects
that were actually able to disable them for certain periods
of time. I have at least 10.
If you're the US Navy, I can't think of anything more important
to you than your fleet of aircraft carriers, he said.
Anything that's going to shut down these aircraft carriers is
going to be of supreme importance.
Ronald Moultrie, former Under Secretary of defense for
intelligence and security, spoke to the Senate a couple of years
ago, saying we're confident that if we encounter these UAP, we
can identify and, if necessary, mitigate them.
Yet you would say that based on what?
It just seems laughable to me. That's such a joke on every
level. They say we know full well that
this is a major problem and they're not mitigating anything.
That's a fact. Since retiring from government,
former Rear Admiral and National Oceanic and Atmospheric
Administration Administrator Tim Gullaudette has revealed that he
was briefed on similar incidents of submarines picking up UFOs on
sonar moving at a rapid speed underwater.
In a statement to dailymail.com galled it cautioned that he has
not spoken with any of the SONO operators involved in the 2004
Tic Tac incident, but added that in general we have to
investigate undersea and trans medium UAP in the same way we do
other UAP to get a more complete understanding of the phenomena.
Very cool. I mean, talking about objects
that drop out of the sky from 80,000 feet, you know, up near
the border with outer space down to 20,000 feet, cruising along
over the top of our Navy fleets, diving into the water, traveling
460 mile an hour. You think about all the
capabilities that these things have.
And then I think about the interview that Louis Elizondo
did where he wanted to come up with this project interloper,
where we would send all these nuclear powered Navy vessels
into one area, try to attract one of these UFOs, and then
knock it out of the sky and capture it with an
electromagnetic beam. Somehow he thinks he's been
persecuted because that project was shut down.
Wow. I don't think he'd want to mess
with these things. I don't think he'd want to shoot
at them. I think he just want to observe
and try to figure out what they are before we do anything that
rash. Until next time, This is UFO
warning over and out.