Hello and welcome to the program UFO Warning.
In this episode, we're talking about the 1990 Scottish UFO
Incident. That's correct, the 1990
Scottish UFO incident. This is a wild one.
There's some pictures released. You probably remember the most
famous one of this giant flying saucer, kind of triangle shaped
on the top and bottom with the military craft behind it.
There's been a lot of weird stuff with this case, stuff not
being released that should have been released, trying to even
find out who the actors involved or and some of the witnesses
seeming to be afraid to come forward.
Now I'm going to get into that in just a second.
I just want to point out that a lot of people have been asking
for visual content. So I just threw together like a
little 2 minute video yesterday and put it on the podcast link
and it did get a lot of views, but it seemed to create some
confusion I guess for people were looking for the long form
podcast, which I did do one of those yesterday.
So probably what I'll have to do at some point is maybe set up a
second UFO warning channel just for video maybe because it seems
like people do like it, but I need to kind of keep it separate
so folks know what they're getting in for.
I've tried to use YouTube a little bit, but did just.
I can't get any views over there.
It's not even worth the time really.
But I'll keep you posted on that and you can leave comments.
I'm not even sure you know which subscribers are able to get the
video content on Spotify, so if you're not able to get that, let
me know and we'll try to figure out if it's even worth doing
that or not. Now, this article here is from
dailymail.co.uk. The title says, and it's quite a
long title actually. 2 British friends took this UFO picture,
then vanished after a visit from sinister men and dark suits.
Breaking his silence after 34 years, their old colleague now
reveals what happened and says they were not meant to see it.
Written by Doctor David Clark. Now the article does get a
little bit dense at times, but we'll get through it.
A dark, stormy night in the town of Pitler Cree in the Scottish
Highlands. The August heat wave had finally
broken with the spectacle with the spectacle of Thunder,
lightning and torrents of rain. And outside the back door of a
Town Center hotel, a group of young chefs gathered to cool off
after a hot night in the kitchen.
Usually there'd be Banner of the Body kind cigarettes and a
bottle passed around. But tonight was different.
Two of the group were discussing animatedly an incident they'd
witnessed a few nights earlier. At about 9:00 PM, while walking
high in the Glens and Calvine on the edge of Cairngorms, they'd
seen something that had scared them out of their wits.
A huge solid diamond shaped object about 100 feet long,
hovering silently in the sky over their heads.
Now August and Scotland, probably still pretty light.
At 9:00 it could have been seen from The X-Files or Men in
Black, but this was rural Scotland.
Luckily they'd had a camera with them and managed to capture some
images as a coward in the bushes.
They'd taken these to the Daily Record, Scotland's largest
circulation newspaper. Of course, this would have been
pretty much pre Internet, maybe the Internet had just kind of
was at the very beginning stages, but nothing anybody
would have really paid attention to.
On a dark stormy night in Scotland, a group of young chefs
saw a huge solid diamond shaped object about 100 foot long
hovering silently in the sky over the heads.
And then that's the caption. It has a picture.
You can look at the picture I'll post over at Kofi.
Just a beautiful shot of this to me, a flying saucer with kind of
the diamond on the top and on the bottom, and then this
military aircraft behind. Really something.
It says the young men were excited and terrified in equal
measure. This was dynamite.
Had they seen a UFO? Were they going to be rich and
famous? Was Earth about to be invaded?
Well, they obviously seen the UFO because this thing's flying
and it's an object and it's unidentified.
That's not hard to figure out. Going to be rich and famous.
I don't know why that's so much. And was the Earth to be invaded?
Well, they haven't invaded yet, or maybe they already have.
We don't know it. As they chatted, a dark car
pulled up outside the hotel and two mysterious figures dressed
in black suits. He emerged from the back seat.
They called to the two chefs by name.
Quote cigarette breaks over. One of them barked to the rest
of the group. If you go and mind your
business. The pair were then let off
somewhere for a chat. My advice is don't get in the
car. Two very different young men
were on breakfast duty the next morning as one of the original
members of the group retired, Retired chef Richard Grieve
tells me today. So they finally come up with
this guy who said he was there. Hey, two guys show up, two men
in black, as they say, get in the car, kids.
My advice? Down 911.
Breaking his silence after 34 years, Richard, now 55, spoke
exclusively to the Mail to describe what happened that
mysterious night in 1990. The pair were visibly shaken by
whatever was said to them, he remembers, though they refused
to divulge specifics, saying only that the men were from the
Royal Navy. Not long after that, it all went
a bit hush hush and they started talking about being followed
around pit Curry. Their demeanor changed.
They stopped showing up for work, went off the rails, and
one began drinking heavy. He was sacked soon afterwards.
The other was usually outgoing and larger than life, became
introverted and sullen. Within a few months of the visit
from the men in the car, they both left the hotel.
I haven't seen them since yet. Names would be really nice at
this point, but we're not getting that.
Whatever it was, they knew they were not meant to see it.
They never really talked about it, but one of them said it was
the Americans and it was a boogeyman.
Drones. Even back then, I suppose they
didn't have drones so much. So yes, they had to blame the
Americans. As an investigative journalist,
university lecturer and committed ufologist, the Calvine
incident, plus the province and whereabouts of the photographs
the chefs took that night have fascinated me for more than 15
years. It's got a picture of this
fellow here. Richard Graves is now 55,
standing there, and he's overcoating the cane.
Much older now, it says. My pursuit of the truth has seen
me follow a trail of evidence from the Highlands and Scotland
to the highest and most secretive echelons of the US
Pentagon. I first stumbled upon the story
when the MOD disbanded its UFO desk in 2009 and released
thousands of files. There, among some laughable
accounts of encounters with weather balloons and seagulls, I
found the heavily weeded Calvin File Calvin file, containing a
poorly photocopied image of the chef's pictures.
After years of dogged sleuthing among along with fellow experts
and enthusiasts, I finally tracked down the original image
to the home of a retired RAF press officer, Greg Lindsay,
who'd kept it hidden on a bookshelf for 32 years.
See, so when they're telling you that they have to put all this
stuff in top secret, you know, classification because of
national security, this is the kind of stuff that's actually
happening. I think some employee there in
the bowels of one of these deep state OPS just says, hey, that's
a cool picture. I think I'll take it home and
just hang on to it for 30 or 40 years.
Wow. When we spoke in 2022, Craig,
then in his 80s and still living in Scotland, confessed.
I have been waiting for someone to contact me about this for
more than 30 years since it was publicly.
Since it was published exclusively in the Daily Mail
that year, the Calvine picture has become one of the most
talked about and so far unexplained UFO photographs in
the world. Millions viewed it online and
Calvine UFO trended on Twitter. Well, here we have another case
of where someone takes a picture of something and then it all
just goes quiet and somehow the MOD ends up with the original
picture and it's just hidden away somewhere for 30 years and
then now you have a private paper just to publish it again.
You know, monetizing this stuff. Even today, almost two years
later, my inbox remains busy with requests for information
and new theories about the origin of the diamond shaped
object. Some believe it is an alien
craft intercepted by RAF jets as it cruised above the Scottish
Highlands. But this idea is rejected by
military personnel who asked for their names to be kept secret.
They point to prototype stealth technology developed by the
United States since the late 1970s.
That's just a a line of of, you know, the stuff that you walk
through in the cow pen. I mean, 1990, if you think that
the Americans had a had a craft like this that was flying at
that kind of a speed or however doing whatever it is.
Yeah, please, please show me where it's at.
And notice how this guy does this appeal to authority thing?
Military personnel, but I can't give their names.
Well, so he's doing an appeal to authority, but then he won't
share their names with you. Yeah, just listen to me.
I'm the hero here. I'm the boss.
I know what's going on. Shut up.
Continue to eat grass. Sheep.
Hopeless Diamond. Hey.
Blue and Aurora have all been mentioned as code names for such
projects. The later the latter.
A mythical hypersonic spite plane was rumored to have
operated from a base in Scotland around the time the pictures
were taken. Well, there's a world of
difference between a spaceship, a flying saucer I'd say, and a
spy plane. One is not the other.
Others are equally convinced the photo must be a clever hoax
along the lines of a Bigfoot or the lock neck monster.
Well, you can see they're they're generalizing again.
But what is missing from my post bag is anything from the two
men. I really want to speak to the
photographer and his friend. And then it says it is very, it
is like they have vanished off the face of the earth, said
Richard Grieve, who recalls alongside the two Who recalls
working alongside the two chefs in the kitchens at Fisher's
Hotel Piquery in the summer of 1990.
Although he can't remember the exact names of his colleagues,
the name Kevin Russell is written on the back of the black
and white print that Craig Lindsay managed to keep hold of.
Craig said he remembered it being sent by Courier from the
Daily Record to his office at the RAF Picture V Castle near
Denver. Malign, the newspaper told him
they were seeking a comment for use and their exclusive story.
Craig immediately faxed a copy of the print to the MODSUFO desk
in London. The Record also provided Craig
with a contact number at the Pittsburgh hotel for the men.
Sadly, Craig couldn't recall any more details about the witnesses
themselves, but he remembers their incredible story clearly.
Well, I don't know if they could go back to the hotel and and go
through the employment records. Probably not.
I have a feeling that these, these chefs, as they call them,
probably more likely cooks or just itinerant workers that just
probably pass through wherever they were at.
And if these two men in black did show up, they may have
scared the living daylights out of these guys.
It's been what, 30-5 years now? 34 years?
Who knows if they're even alive still.
It says they told him that is a coward in bushes.
They first heard and then saw a military Harrier jet fly down
the valley between beneath the UFO.
Then as they fired off shots on their camera, they saw this or
another jet return and circle around the object as if the
pilot was escorting it before departing.
Then the diamond, the diamond craft shot vertically into the
sky and vanished without making a sound.
That doesn't sound like it's escorting it to me.
OK, that sounds like it's investigating it.
You've got two different planes flying around this thing trying
to get up close to it, and then the thing just shoots offices
shot vertically into the sky. Now you're trying to say this is
some sort of a dirigible or spy plane by the US.
Since when is a spy? Since when has AUS had had a
flying saucer shaped spy plane that can shoot up into the air?
And it says it did this without making a sound.
Craig typed up a summary of their account and faxed it to
the MOD. He also arranged for the Record
to send the lads negatives to London.
Then he waited for the newspaper to publish this exclusive but no
story appeared. Craig says he was instructed to
leave it to London and for 32 years he did as he was told, but
not before stashing one picture in a copy of The Great Aircraft
of the World on his bookshelf. So I take this picture of this
UFO. It's never published,
apparently. They keep the, they have this,
they just kind of bury the story, they bury it at the MOD
and this fellow decides, well, might as well take this picture
home with me. Craig says he was instructed to
leave it to London and for 32 years he did as he was told, but
not before stashing one picture in a copy of Great Aircraft of
the World on his bookshelf. Wow.
For 18 months I have been working with a documentary film
crew to find the elusive Kevin Russell.
But despite worldwide publicity, no one has come forward to claim
ownership of the photograph. Undeterred, some colleagues and
I compiled a database of 140 Kevin Russell's, a frustratingly
common name who are of the correct age.
Some were born in Scotland and others live abroad.
The closest we got was a Kevin Russell who, according to the
electoral rule, was working as a hotel kitchen Porter half a mile
away from the at the time, but when approached, denied all
knowledge of the picture. I'm sure he's glad about you
guys outing him there. It would.
Well, it would. It could well be, of course,
that the photographer deliberately chose to obscure
his identity by putting a different name on the print.
Or it could be Kevin is still frightened and doesn't want to
come forward. Or it could be that someone just
wrote the name on there and it's got nothing to do with anything.
One thing this former colleague Richard Grieve is sure about,
however, is that both the young men were very scared after their
close encounter, both with the UFO and the men in the black
car. And he's sure they couldn't have
made-up the image as a hoax. During the tourist season in
Pickery, temps could work 16 hour shifts cooking for up to
150 hotel gifts. Guess there was no time for
hijinks. Soon after the photos were
developed, Richard said one took a bus to Glasgow to deliver them
to the Daily Record. Then the dark car arrived.
The chef's cryptic remark to Richard that it was the
Americans might explain why, despite many attempts, the MOD
stubbornly refuses to reveal what they know about these
baffling photographs. What you can see here, again,
this guy's connecting dots that just aren't necessarily there.
Officials say the negatives were returned to the newspaper, and
the only records that survive have been transferred to the
National Archives. Everything else has been
destroyed, including Craig's summary, the analysis of the
images by RAF and MOD specialist and the missing images.
Yeah, that's convenient. Just make an analysis of this
UFO and then just just throw that away.
I find it difficult to believe this type of evidence could
would be destroyed as it was used to answer a parliamentary
question and to brief ministers at the time.
The late Labour MP from Doncaster, Martin Redmond, used
to take table used to table dozens of questions on UFO
sightings back in the 1990s, including a Callaway.
Also a government response was prepared in readiness for the
Record newspaper exclusive, which never appeared.
Wow. Yeah.
What kind of paper would just would just throw this away, act
like it doesn't even exist? Amazing.
These pictures are spectacular. Then it shows some images here
of the original picture with a with a with a fax copy and
another copy of it, it says. As for its authenticity, my
shuffled Holman University colleague photography special
Andrew Robertson, carried out a detailed analysis of the image
donated to the university by Craig Lindsay.
He saw no evidence that had been manipulated in any way.
So where are the other images and negatives?
What happened to Kevin Russell and his friend?
And what do the photographs actually show?
Well, we see what they show. They show a UFO being followed
by a military aircraft. Ever since the Calvin photo went
viral on social media, the Internet has been buzzing with
theories, some even more far fetched than the idea that
aliens had visited Calvin. Some claimed the triangular UFO
was actually the top of a mountain peeking out of the
Scottish mist and the Glen below, or even a Christmas tree
ornament suspended from a tree by fishing wire.
Yeah, sounds pretty, pretty credible.
But if the photographs were a prank, they fool the RAF, the
MOD and the Pentagon. The MOD file says scrutiny of
one of the missing images revealed a second jet in the
distance, making a hoax even more improbable.
Indeed, the paper trail suggests the images were the subject of
at least three separate analysis by UK and U.S. government
agencies. Well the guy told you that there
were two airplanes involved. The Harrier have been hovering
around it and then another one that kind of came out of nowhere
and was observing it right before the same shot, straight
up in the air without making a noise.
It says the first was summarized in a briefing prepared for
Defense Minister Ken Carlisle in 1990.
It said experts were confident the jet in the photograph was a
Harrier, even though none were known to be flying in Scotland
on that evening. You know, off the books.
And the minister was told experts had reached no definite
conclusion regarding the diamond shaped object.
The briefing warned that the MOD has been asked for comments,
almost certainly for inclusion in a forthcoming story.
But former Daily Record News editor Malcolm Speed cannot
explain why his paper did not publish their exclusive.
Speed remembers being shown the photographs by the picture
editor Andy Allen. It looked amazing when I it
looked amazing then I was surprised it was not published,
he said When I quizzed him about the photographs and he told me
the RAF, the RAF said they were fakes.
Well, why would you have to run it by the RAF first?
Just it just goes to show you the collusion between your
mainline media, the military establishment, and all the rest.
Andy Allen died in 2007, so it's impossible to ask for his
version of events. As Malcolm Speed says, was Andy
misled by the RAF? Even if they were fakes, why
weren't they published? It does not make any sense.
Well, it makes perfect sense if you're familiar with things like
Project Mockingbird with the CIA and just basically embeds
workers in these large news media organizations.
The, the, the Twitter papers. I think Jason Goodman's done
some good work on that, revealing how the how the deep
state agents control mass media. It's not a big secret.
When I first started following up leads on the photographs, I
was struck by the date of the sighting, August 4th, 1990.
And this was two days after Iraqi forces invaded Kuwait,
triggering the Gulf War. For the rest of that year,
thousands of military personnel and hundreds of ship and
warplanes, including futuristic American F117A stealth fighters
were mobilized in the build up to the aerial attack on Iraq
forces that began in January 1991.
See, he's thrown some he's, he's thrown a little bit of extra
stuff into the into the porridge is going to confuse you with
this all this nonsense about the Iraq war and how this must have
been some kind of a secret weapon from the US.
The aircraft had been in development for at least 15
years and some of the prototype designs, including one called
the Hopeless Diamond, resemble the craft photographed in
Scotland. This is just rubbish.
There's not an airplane in the world that can do what this
thing did, this large craft, maybe 7-8 times the size of a
normal airplane, just hovering there and then shooting straight
up into the sky, it says. Earlier this year, the US
government admitted it had flown prototype aircraft that resemble
alien craft, some of which have been seen and reported as UFOs.
The Pentagon said some of these systems had a saucer or
triangular shape appearance and were capable of hovering aloft
yet. Well, let's see it.
Let's just say it. So was the Calvin UFO one of
them, The American Department of Defense's All Domain Anomaly
Resolution Office, which has a mission from Congress to resolve
unexplained UFOs, released the first volume of its historic
investigation in in February. Oh, yeah, it was super
historical. All right, So this guy's
definitely on the side of the debunkers.
From from what I can tell, it says all the evidence about UFO
sightings points to misidentified, authentic, highly
sensitive national security programs.
This is just garbage. I mean, lots of people have seen
UFOs. I've seen, I've seen a UFO in
the middle of nowhere out in farm country, nothing but
thousands of acres of corn and soybeans and Prairie.
And I'm supposed to believe that they were out there doing that
because they're testing some sort of top secret UFO program
in the middle of nowhere, in the middle of nowhere.
I've talked to so many people. I've seen these things in the
middle of nowhere, not even anywhere near a military base.
It would have been completely ludicrous for the US government
to be testing these things at low altitude 1020 feet off the
ground. I've talked about a friend of
mine's mother. She's passed away now years ago
in Michigan. Her and her daughter both sit
there and tell me very good Christian conservative people
tell me how they saw this giant UFO with flashing lights all
around it, land in the middle of a cornfield, middle of nowhere,
yes, the size of 1/2 the size of a football field, and just sat
there and watched it. However, if you feed off the
ground, had the same stories out of people I knew in Arkansas,
middle of nowhere, giant multi colored UFOs just hovering there
just off the ground. Yeah, I'm sure that's going to
be one of these experimental UFO.
I'm sure it's going to be one of these experimental US aircraft
just just testing out their bombing capabilities.
I mean, the idea that that all these UFOs that people are
seeing are some kind of top secret weapons program, that's
just nonsense. Goes on and says the
declassified version also refers to a sighting in the 1990s when
an unnamed military witness saw a UFO exhibiting a peculiar
flight pattern near AUS military facility, possibly Area 51, the
top secret military base in the Nevada desert where experimental
aircraft and weapons systems are thought to be reached.
They've got all these newfangled weapons.
Why are we spending two years in Ukraine?
That's what I would like to know.
The seemingly strange characteristics reported by the
interview matched closely with the platform's characteristics,
which was being tested at a military facility in the time
frame the interview was there, the report says.
Just more, more, more nonsense, more lies trying to produce this
parallel narrative 34 years later.
Arrow's investigators said knowledge of the of its
existence was restricted on a need to know basis to a very
small number of people. I wonder if Louie knew, could
this be what the chefs saw over Calvin?
Probably not, Probably not. So this is so is the truth still
out there hitting at Area 51 and Kevin Russell?
If you are reading the Daily Mail, please get in touch.
Whatever it was that you saw is no longer a secret.
Wow. There was some good information
on the article, but a lot of just this debunking nonsense.
So this guy's taking this really fascinating and dark story about
this UFO that was photographed over Scotland in 1990 and
somehow conflated it with the stuff going on in Area 51.
I mean, please, a total lack of actual investigation here.
OK. They looked up a bunch of Kevin
Russell's. Well, who even knows?
That could just be a rabbit trail for all we know.
I mean, maybe someone put that name on there just to confuse
people. What would be what should be
done is, is to go back and try to find some of those old timers
that were working back there at the hotel, put out a reward for
some of the people involved and hire private detective and maybe
you can track these guys down if they're still alive.
Overall, I think the main thing that this article teaches this
is the danger of reporting this stuff to the wrong people.
So if you got the pictures, post them online.
Let the world see them right away.
Until next time. This is UFO warning over and
out.