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Hello and welcome to the program
UFO morning. 

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In this episode, we're looking 
at six whistleblowers, that's 

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correct. 
Six whistleblowers according to 

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the Daily Mail, six wheels of 
Lords have come forward, The 

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Spill. 
The Beans. 

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I want to go through this 
article. 

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There's some things in it that 
are kind of groundbreaking and 

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there's a couple things in here,
just not. 

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So sure about this article comes
to us from Daily Mail. .Co.uk 

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written by Josh Boswell dated 
April. 

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Six 2023 and the title says 
exclusive 6 whistleblowers who 

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claim they worked on Military 
UFO programs retrieving and 

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analyzing crash material, have 
come forward to spill their 

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secrets to senior members of 
Congress but it goes on and says

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lawyer. 
Daniel Sheehan said he's in 

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contact with at least six, 
former officials are military 

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contractors. 
Who say, they worked on UFO 

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programs, the whistleblowers 
claim. 

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They worked on Roswell style, 
UFO, crash retrieval and reverse

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engineering programs and have 
spoken. 

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Members of Congress. 
The attorney is launching a 

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watchdog charity pushing for 
greater government transparency 

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on UFOs. 
You know. 

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I don't have a good feeling when
these guys come out and they 

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make a big announcement that 
they've got the goods but we 

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can't have the goods because 
they're talking to Congress. 

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Whoever a secondly don't have a 
good feeling when someone tells 

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me they're going to set up a 
watchdog charity, because 

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charity organizations, pretty 
tough to set up, there's a lot 

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of oversight. 
Like you just don't get it. 

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Go out and make one of these I 
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clintons and not worry about 
where the money goes. 

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So that's it. 
That's two red flags right there

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but we'll continue. 
It says senior members of 

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Congress have spoken to as many 
as six whistleblowers who claim 

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they worked on Roswell style, 
UFO crash retrievals and reverse

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engineering programs according 
to a top attorney at leading 

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Stanford scientists at X UFO 
program officials for decades. 

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It has been Subject 2 spooky TV 
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And sci-fi novels the theory 
that the government has alien 

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spacecraft in a bunker somewhere
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disassemble an understand their 
technology. 

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Well, that's been, that's been a
thought for a long time. 

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And with good reason, it says, 
but things are not where things 

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got a lot more. 
Real after Congress passed a law

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last year, creating 
whistleblower protections for 

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anyone who has worked in such 
mind-boggling secret programs. 

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Suggesting they may be more than
just Fiction? 

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Well, that's a positive 
development. 

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In 2023 National Defense, 
authorization act ndaa signed 

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into law by President Joe. 
Biden, December included, an 

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amendment, requiring the 
Pentagon to give high-ranking 

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Senators classified reports on 
any previously, undisclosed 

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programs relating to 
unidentified anomalous 

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phenomena. 
Now, see, they work haunted 

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unidentified aerial phenomena, 
so they change the name on you. 

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Again, they just can't stop 
messing with the verbiage. 

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It's maddening, including with 
respect to material retrieval 

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material analysis, and reverse 
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You know, I have to wonder what 
those guys are getting. 

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If it's not just some kind of 
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hangout and exclusive in an 
exclusive interview if they like

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mail.com Daniel Sheehan said he 
is in contact with at least six 

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former government officials or 
military contractors who say 

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they worked on just such a A 
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You know what they say? 
First rule about Fight Club, 

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don't talk about Fight Club, 
really be concern for these guys

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and it has a picture of the of 
the tourney here. 

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Daniel Sheehan, 
distinguished-looking, 

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gray-haired Old Gentleman goes 
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It says she had represents Lou 
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This is a major red flag for me,
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lot of hate for saying this, for
questioning loose story, but 

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look, I'm not, I'm not, Okay 
with Lou reportedly. 

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We don't know, allegedly getting
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Paper bag passed off to him by 
Christopher medal on. 

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That's the story, don't know if 
it's true, just putting it out 

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there. 
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whole somehow when this whole 
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it sounds like it was just him 
and the whole thing is just so 

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cloudy. 
And so opaque. 

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Yeah, he worked in the dod but 
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well, he was actually doing the 
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We don't know what was going on.
The whole thing is just, I don't

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know, it's just suspect to me. 
And now blue is making money 

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doing the doing the UFO circuit,
fine, whatever. 

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But I've had people say, well, 
you know, you can't criticize 

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Lou because he's not making any 
money off, those, it's not true.

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These guys are all making money 
and I don't begrudge than that. 

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I mean, you know, it's a person 
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compensation just to survive, 
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But that aside still a little 
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represents Lou Elizondo, who ran
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UFO office called a tip until 
2017. 

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The attorney is also launching a
watchdog charity pushing for 

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greater government transparency 
on UFOs. 

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Now, listen, what do you need 
the charity for for these 

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Charities? 
This is not something that you 

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should just under take lightly 
when people go to prison for 

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charity fraud. 
So I've got another red flag 

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popping up right there. 
She had said that some of these 

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half dozen whistleblowers Brief 
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dealing with Military 
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ndaa past and may have been the 
inspiration for senators to 

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include the reverse engineering 
language. 

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Well, maybe, but any of us that 
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for any length of time, know 
that reverse engineering has 

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been a hot topic. 
For many years, there are half a

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dozen of them that have already 
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He said the Senate staff people 
were reaching out to some 

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others. 
Xi'an says Witnesses, who Really

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know about Roswell style 
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Defense intelligence agency 
director and what if he's 

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talking about Ratcliffe have 
been referred for interviews 

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with the pentagon's UFO office, 
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resolution office. 
Well we just saw what happened 

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with with arrow Kilpatrick shows
up and says I don't see 

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anything. 
Look, you have to get this 

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investigation completely out of 
the hands of the Pentagon if you

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want to have any kind of 
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Okay, set up a separate entity. 
I don't care if If you Outsource

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it, to a university, somewhere, 
whatever, you're never going to 

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get the truth out of the 
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Let's just be honest about that.
A top Stanford scientist says he

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is also in touch with 
whistleblowers and this is where

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it gets interesting now because 
we've talked about this guy 

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before multiple times on the 
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Prize nominee dr. 
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Gary Nolan. 
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experiments at Sanford where the
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brought in 150 We've been 
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a quarter of them died that Gary
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We did the whole thing on a 
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On the podcast, you can go back 
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You can go to the links there. 
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This is where I have an issue 
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It says immunologists and Nobel 
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Dr. Gary Nolan was commissioned 
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of the mysterious Havana 
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Inflicting officials worldwide 
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statement right there, it is 
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I watch the videos with Nolan. 
I've been digging around trying 

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to find the exact quote on it. 
This stuff gets buried. 

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Let me tell you, but it's out 
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Maybe there's a maybe you could 
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I didn't buy me a copy. 
I'm not going to spend four 

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hours on this, but as I recall 
and I and I feel sure enough 

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about this that I would testify 
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It's my recollection. 
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interviewed in one of those 
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videos. 
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progressed at Stanford where 
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fifty people, they started to 
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center of the brain was 
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from the accident, they thought 
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happen to be more perceptive to 
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And that's why they reported the
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And then he talked about another
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brain that look like, but 
somebody had believe it has Ms 

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where you have this kind of 
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With a nerves are over 
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It's almost like an immune 
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about how people were seriously 
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UFOs. 
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employees. 
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were pilots or military people 
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handle the material. 
He says that he has some UFO 

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material walked away. 
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stuff where they were near 
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were working on it and reverse 
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program, or whether they were a 
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They were close contact or even 
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and they were injured by it. 
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study that most people, that, 
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recognize UFOs, they had this 
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It's almost like a give them 
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brain. 
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with intuition. 
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were able to see UFOs. 
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the rest of us don't see. 
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The takeaway from that was one 
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Let's small part of it. 
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studying, was that these people 
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And that was a very negative 
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like they, the brain x-rays look
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Ms, where the immune system at 
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And in fact, I was 150, people 
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of them that be what, like, 30 
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So they were killed by contact 
with this UFO and then he goes 

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on an interview. 
And he describes how many of the

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symptoms were very, very similar
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Havana syndrome where the CIA 
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were claiming that they've been 
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injured and he brought this up 
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they shut him down. 
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it. 
It that makes me think that it 

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wasn't the Cubans or the 
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The Chinese that were attacking 
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dimensional, extraterrestrial. 
Whatever it was. 

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He's guys, are messing with 
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it had the same sort of symptoms
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contact with UFOs with. 
He's like, this can't just be 

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this to similar. 
There has to be some connection 

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and when he brought that up to 
the CIA boom study gone. 

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See you mr. 
Nolan and this is extremely high

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ranking individual, super smart 
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You can watch the videos Autumn 
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He's on YouTube. 
He has his own lab named after a

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Stanford. 
He's done some amazing work. 

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This guy's got to have an IQ of 
like 200. 

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I don't know. 
He is a regular freaking ice to 

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Einstein. 
Just listen to him. 

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It's amazing. 
Listen to this guy talk. 

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So anyways says immunologist and
Nobel Prize nominee dr. 

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Gary Nolan was commissioned by 
the CIA to investigate cases of 

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mysterious have Anna syndrome. 
Inflicting Embassy officials 

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worldwide and was conducting 
experiments. 

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Analyzing material, allegedly 
jettison, and UFO flyovers. 

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See they're changing the 
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They're complete. 
This this is the mail and I have

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to think that this is 
intentional. 

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I mean the New York Post the 
sun, they all did articles on 

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this back. 
In 2021 and 2022 long, detailed 

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up articles, Vice did this 
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him and all three of them is 
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that were brought to him by the 
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injured by UFOs. 
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couldn't find it's probably been
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at the one of those articles at 
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maybe having an interview, he 
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It was he brought up that this 
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injuries, he was investigating. 
Look like the same thing that's 

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when they shut him down. 
So the CIA did not that we have,

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I have no evidence that the CIA 
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Gary Nolan to investigate cases 
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syndrome. 
That's just an outright lie. 

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And if somebody can show me 
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please send it to me. 
Push it on Twitter. 

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Something I would love to know 
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far is exactly the Opposite. 
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Havana syndrome was even a thing
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And then from everything I've 
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It's just basically swept the 
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They want nothing to do with it,
which tells me there's something

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there. 
What are these guys doing for 

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all? 
We know, they could be, they 

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could be messing around 
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and other countries and that 
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know that. 
And that's why that they shut 

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this whole thing down, but for 
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there, Outsourcing it. 
And that's, that's really not 

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ethical in my opinion. 
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several former staffers of 
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engineering programs. 
That's true. 

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In the interview he did with 
Vice and you can look that up 

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Ali, two minutes, he talks about
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come back, he shows some stuff. 
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vice reporter that look what 
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exhaust or something. 
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federal government probably has 
tough. 

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It's way more advanced like you 
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had this exhaust material when 
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I think he probably does suspect
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say it. 
Anyway, says I, I have good 

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reason to trust. 
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are were actually part of the 
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close to the reverse engineering
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to the fact. 
Recently, he said in the podcast

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interview earlier this year when
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So these people are putting 
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breaking one oath of secrecy and
taking another, that's correct. 

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they go to work on these 
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When they're putting it off, 
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between a rock and a hard place.
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Kilpatrick may have hinted that 
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Interviewed whistleblowers and 
testimony decided to Christian 

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gillibrand at a senate armed 
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Wednesday, Hannah. 
That's that's silliness they've 

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already come out. 
They've done some. 

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Interviews. 
They were told, hey, you guys 

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need to go back and interview, 
some these people who have had 

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experiences and what do we find 
about, was it call us the guy 

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that was the the military guy at
the nuclear missile base, was it

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Colorado? 
And Wyoming. 

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Remember we talked about the 
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phone call. 
You know, 60 years later. 

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Don't tell us who the other 
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Just tell us about your 
experience, a complete gloss 

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over. 
Okay, I'm sure they already have

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a good idea what happened, but 
they're having to go ahead. 

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Cross the dots across the t's 
and Dot the I's because they 

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need to keep that funding coming
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Okay? 
Congress has mandated that your 

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office established a 
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electronic method or for 
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incidence and potential 
participants and government. 

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UAP related activities to 
contact your office to tell you 

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stories. 
Go Rex had to kill Patrick 

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Congress. 
Also, set up a process whereby 

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people who are subject to 
non-disclosure agreements. 

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Preventing them from disclosing 
what they may have witnessed or 

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participated in could tell you. 
You what they know without risk 

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of Retribution, from the 
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that's just a stupid. 
I'm sorry. 

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Honey, look, if they wanted to 
set up an electronic method for 

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people to tell their story, ask 
new van or Norfork whatever it's

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called these we already have UFO
Reporting all over the Internet.

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It's not hard to do. 
It's pretty pretty simple 

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actually and they could do that 
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but they're just making excuses.
They don't want it. 

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Did they want to contain the 
knowledge you want to hold the 

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knowledge? 
They want to embargo as from the

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knowledge and then as far as 
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depending on to tell their story
are you crazy? 

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You're sending them back into 
the lions den to tell what 

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they've been threatened with 
prison. 

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If they tell set up a set up a 
whistleblowers office on Capitol

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Hill, okay, you need to give 
these guys some kind of Refuge. 

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When do you expect that? 
You will establish a 

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public-facing discoverable 
access port hole for people to 

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use the contact your office as 
the law requires. 

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And then says, thank you all 
very much for referring the 

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witnesses that you have thus far
to us. 

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I appreciate that. 
Kirkpatrick replied. 

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We brought in nearly two dozen 
so far. 

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All you add a 600 cases, you 
bite in 24, people. 

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That's awesome. 
Some of them from 30 40 years 

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ago, he added that an online 
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submitted for approval. 
It would take Less than an hour 

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to build that website, okay. 
It's pretty simple thing to do. 

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He goes on, he says, Kirkpatrick
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and physicists, you know, a 
veteran intelligence officer. 

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Why don't you just put somebody 
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Okay, told Senators his office 
willfully will follow scientific

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evidence, wherever it leads, but
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credible evidence. 
Thus far of extraterrestrial 

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activity offer will technology 
or objects that defy the known 

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laws of physics. 
Yeah, that metal ball. 

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All flying across Mosel 
suspected mid-flight, a high 

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rate of speed making, right? 
Turns whatever it did that that 

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didn't defy the laws of physics.
No nothing to see here. 

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Move along, he says, another 
Nobel Prize nominee and CIA 

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scientist doctor helped put 
talk. 

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Now, look, I have some questions
about this guy, he's got, let's 

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just say an interesting past, 
okay? 

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Not that, not to denigrate him 
but you the Skeptics have some 

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traction here with this fellow, 
okay? 

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And I'm just going to leave it 
at that. 

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So I just take it with a grain 
of salt. 

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I don't like it. 
My see, these celebrities moving

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into the space when we have some
little bit of progress. 

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Like we're Congress says, okay. 
We're going to pass along that 

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gives people that that 
illuminates previous nda's. 

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So we're going to allow people 
to come forward. 

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Me whistleblowers going to pass 
the whistleblower law. 

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That's actual progress, really? 
Because then it, it perhaps 

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removes the threat of 
imprisonment. 

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If these guys come forward and 
talk about what they've seen, 

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that's a good thing and we can 
just do that. 

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We don't need to surround that 
that one little advancement, 

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with all of these celebrity UFO 
people. 

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I mean where they come in and 
they just inject themselves into

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the situation in between making 
appearances on the lecture 

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circuit and picking up checks, I
just don't like it. 

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Okay, so I says another Nobel 
Prize nominee and cie scientist.

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Dr. Help put up. 
Who worked in the government's 

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2008. 
Twelve UFO program called a, aw 

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sap told daily mail.com that he 
had brief Congress on 

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classified. 
Information, about reverse 

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engineering programs, and new of
whistleblowers who had worked in

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the alleged programs. 
Quote, I don't consider myself. 

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Secretly coming out of the 
Shadows, the way whistleblowers 

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may. 
He said I can just speak to what

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I learned in Congress and 
Congressional supported programs

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that they paid for it. 
We were specifically tasked with

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collecting, whatever evidence we
could collect from military 

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individuals contractors. 
As to the reality, what evidence

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there is put off said he knew 
I'm military contractors. 

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Were officials who worked on 
reverse engineering programs who

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are now coming forward to Arrow.
After the new whistleblower 

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protection was added to the 
ndaa. 

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Look, they need to come be able 
to come forward to the senator 

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of the congressman's office. 
Forcing these guys to go back 

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into the belly of the Beast to 
spill her guts is not a good 

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thing. 
The ones I know of felt it was a

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respect responsibility to tell 
what they knew and they were not

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right. 
As any said, certain people in 

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that category with fall into the
Whistleblower, Regime. 

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I can't comment. 
In detail the former CIA laser 

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scientists added. 
Well, you know what they say? 

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Once CIA always a CIA, we just 
can't seem to break free of this

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intelligence, whatever you want 
to call it. 

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I defense department spokesman 
told Ellie mail.com that they 

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have not yet found any UFO 
programs that were improperly 

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kept from Congress but they 
haven't finished their search 

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but you wouldn't find it because
they're buried. 

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In addition to a ours, principal
mission to address current 

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operations regarding you. 
AP are Arrow is also conducting 

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a stroke or review the 
government's identification and 

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resolution of you Apec. 
UAP activities including 

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speaking to Witnesses for 
authorized disclosures, as 

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prescribed by law DOD. 
Spokeswoman Susan go said, well 

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isn't that nice Sue's involved? 
Well, look we at Bob's huh, 

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laughs? 
That was his name. 

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We talked about his report that 
he was contacted by. 

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These guys wanting to know about
his experience back. 

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What was in 1983 or something? 
When the UFO shut down the 

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nuclear silos, Us and they 
specifically said, don't name 

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anybody. 
That was with you that night. 

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Have you ever heard of that 
investigation with a cop, didn't

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ask for the names of everybody? 
That was there with you. 

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Come on, they're just doing, 
it's a cover-up. 

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Okay, A little frosting on the 
cake, the shut up. 

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The Congress. 
People to shut up the UFO crowd 

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and, and then the Deep bunkers 
can go along and say, well, we 

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told you, there was nothing 
there. 

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It says, while there have been 
nearly two, dozen people at Aro,

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has interviewed confidentially 
and securely, I don't know. 

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They called him on the phone. 
He talked about it. 

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Is that confidential and secure?
I don't think so. 

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Jr has not finished this data 
collection or its analysis. 

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We will not comment on our 
findings prior to reporting them

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to Congress. 
Well no you'll need a couple 

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more million dollars to 
transcribe that phone call as 

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described by law. 
A arrow has 72 hours to report 

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to Congress on any program 
discovered that it's not been 

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properly reported to Congress. 
For appropriate oversight, none 

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has been sound so far. 
Well sure, it's probably just 

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Kilpatrick by himself over there
in an office somewhere in the 

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middle of the Pentagon and he's 
going to report on the Pentagon 

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man. 
Not a few values. 

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His life documentarian, James 
Fox told the amazing people 

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podcast on April 4th 2024. 
That he had just interviewed at 

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least for whistleblowers who had
testified to kill Patrick with 

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evidence of UFO crash retrieval 
programs. 

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Those people should be really, 
really careful if they actually 

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You know anything, that's all I 
would say. 

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I would tell everybody or tell. 
Nobody, there are elected 

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officials that are right now 
coming to the realization that 

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these programs exist. 
That we probably do have 

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recovered debris. 
Fox said they're hearing 

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testimony from this 
whistleblower protection. 

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That's recently been signed into
law. 

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I met with intelligence folks 
that had just met me. 

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Had just met with Kilpatrick and
met with Senate. 

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Intel, they couldn't share every
single detail because it was 

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classified, but they did with 
them, some of them are retired. 

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A lot of they I'm were still 
employed what they're basically 

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saying is these reverse 
engineering programs exist, he 

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added I have this on camera, 
don't take it from me, don't 

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take my testimony but I'm here 
to tell you. 

458
00:23:22,300 --> 00:23:24,900
This is the name of the program.
This is a location blah blah 

459
00:23:24,900 --> 00:23:27,100
blah. 
Now look the problem with this 

460
00:23:27,100 --> 00:23:31,900
is until we have transparency. 
What you frequently end up with,

461
00:23:32,100 --> 00:23:35,200
there's some people that can 
show from their employment 

462
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,300
history, the resume that. 
Hey, I worked with the deity of 

463
00:23:37,300 --> 00:23:39,100
already. 
This ride to that, they can 

464
00:23:39,100 --> 00:23:41,800
associate a couple of alpha, 
alphabet, interest them. 

465
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,200
And then they can travel the UFO
circuit, making big money on 

466
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,300
speeches. 
That's not how it should. 

467
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,200
Work. 
We need to have Clarity. 

468
00:23:49,700 --> 00:23:53,000
We need to have transparency. 
This stuff needs to be this 

469
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,300
stuff needs to be hashed out in 
public hearings or where we can 

470
00:23:56,300 --> 00:23:58,100
all hear it. 
And then they can go on the 

471
00:23:58,100 --> 00:24:01,500
public speaking to her and says 
it made the claims are Roswell 

472
00:24:01,500 --> 00:24:05,100
style crash retrieval programs 
on Friday us intelligence 

473
00:24:05,100 --> 00:24:07,400
leaders held an unprecedented 
briefing at Wright-Patterson Air

474
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,400
Force Base and Dayton Ohio, a 
site with deep historic. 

475
00:24:11,700 --> 00:24:14,800
Rumored links to our foes 
reports after the notorious 

476
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,200
alleged 1947 Flying Saucer 
crash. 

477
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,900
In Roswell, New Mexico claim 
that the supposed record was 

478
00:24:19,900 --> 00:24:22,400
taken to Wright-Patterson. 
Yeah, we know all about this and

479
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,200
then it says last week, CIA 
director, William Burns, 

480
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,600
Director of National 
Intelligence Avril, Haines 

481
00:24:27,900 --> 00:24:31,300
National, Security Agency, 
director General, Paul nakasone,

482
00:24:31,300 --> 00:24:34,700
and several members of the 
House, permanent select 

483
00:24:34,700 --> 00:24:37,400
committee on intelligence, flew 
to the secretive base for a 

484
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,100
meeting on topics, including 
Chinese spy, balloons or in 

485
00:24:41,100 --> 00:24:42,800
Ukraine. 
Recently some classified 

486
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,100
documents by National Guard, 
Airmen, Jack ticks area? 

487
00:24:46,300 --> 00:24:47,100
I don't know. 
What is that? 

488
00:24:47,100 --> 00:24:50,700
Be As a trip mean what are the 
accomplishing they couldn't? 

489
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,200
They couldn't do that. 
On a resume call? 

490
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,200
They couldn't just get together 
there in d.c., you know, so much

491
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,800
of this, just seems like 
politics to me, it really does. 

492
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,600
It says, one Congressman 
publicly put the Pentagon a 

493
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,900
notice that he was aware of 
claims of UFO tinkering 

494
00:25:02,900 --> 00:25:05,700
programs, evading proper 
oversight by lawmakers, during 

495
00:25:05,700 --> 00:25:09,500
the first public hearing on 
unidentified objects and over 50

496
00:25:09,500 --> 00:25:12,300
years last May at the historic 
meeting Wisconsin. 

497
00:25:12,300 --> 00:25:14,700
Republican, Mike Gallagher 
entered into the Congressional 

498
00:25:14,700 --> 00:25:18,300
Record and explosive document 
that will Austin Davis notes. 

499
00:25:18,500 --> 00:25:20,500
I would encourage 
representative. 

500
00:25:21,300 --> 00:25:25,600
Mike Gallagher, not to get on a 
small plane anytime soon. 

501
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,200
Yeah. 
Anyway, the article continues on

502
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,700
there a little ways. 
I'm not going to finish the 

503
00:25:29,700 --> 00:25:34,200
whole thing out, but the gist of
it is you have reportedly six 

504
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:38,600
whistleblowers have come forward
to tell Congress members that 

505
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:44,500
hey we worked on programs that 
involve reverse engineering UFO,

506
00:25:44,500 --> 00:25:49,200
crafted parts and in this 
article It does an OK job 

507
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,800
representing that but it also 
brings in all of the local UFO 

508
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,800
celebrities from melon to Louis 
Elizondo to put off. 

509
00:25:56,700 --> 00:25:58,500
Just type these guys names in 
Google. 

510
00:25:58,500 --> 00:26:01,100
These guys are, they're 
traveling the circuit, they're 

511
00:26:01,100 --> 00:26:04,000
making the money and so fine, 
whatever, but you have to under,

512
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,500
you have to ask yourself. 
Well, is that affecting the news

513
00:26:08,500 --> 00:26:10,900
that we're getting? 
Why is all of this really 

514
00:26:10,900 --> 00:26:14,800
interesting news being monetized
before it's released to us 

515
00:26:15,300 --> 00:26:17,100
anyway, the article goes on and 
talks through this. 

516
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,600
And then it brings up about dr. 
Gary Nolan which we've covered 

517
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:25,200
extensively on this program, it 
incorrectly reports its is I'm 

518
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,600
as I'm saying it, I believe is 
incorrectly reporting that he 

519
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:34,000
was hired by the CIA to 
investigate the Havana syndrome.

520
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,700
When in fact, we know from the 
New York Post and some reporting

521
00:26:36,900 --> 00:26:40,400
that he was hired to investigate
these UFO injuries people 

522
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:45,000
sustained 150 injured, 25% of 
them dying from their injuries 

523
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,000
and in the course of those 
Reviews. 

524
00:26:48,300 --> 00:26:50,600
As I recall he came out and said
that he was taken off the 

525
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,500
project when he even mentioned 
the correlation between those 

526
00:26:53,500 --> 00:26:55,000
injuries and the Havana 
syndrome. 

527
00:26:55,300 --> 00:27:01,100
So you can see these parallel 
narratives being developed as 

528
00:27:01,100 --> 00:27:04,300
the story emerges. 
I mean wow right there at the 

529
00:27:04,300 --> 00:27:08,400
beginning, we just find out that
there's six whistleblowers 

530
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,200
coming forward. 
They send out these retired. 

531
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,900
Deep state employees who are now
UFO, celebrities the kind of 

532
00:27:13,900 --> 00:27:17,300
Shepherd the story along they 
even insert documents. 

533
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,500
After Gary Nolan into the story 
incorrectly reported that the 

534
00:27:20,500 --> 00:27:22,200
CIA was. 
So concerned about the Havana 

535
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,500
syndrome, when it looks like 
from everything, he told us that

536
00:27:24,500 --> 00:27:26,700
if they were more concerned with
covering it up. 

537
00:27:27,300 --> 00:27:31,600
So you see how you see, how you 
see, how they form the 

538
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,300
narrative? 
Instead of just letting us, 

539
00:27:34,500 --> 00:27:37,800
instead of just rolling, the 
dice, and whatever comes up, 

540
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,100
comes up, they're not interested
in transparency, they're not 

541
00:27:41,100 --> 00:27:43,200
interested. 
This disclosure, and the 

542
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,500
disclosure that we're getting is
almost accidental. 

543
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,200
So I suppose the best that we 
can hope for is just to as they 

544
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:55,500
say, eat the hay and leave the 
stubble but I found the article 

545
00:27:55,500 --> 00:27:58,700
interesting even though it was 
jilted a couple spots and what 

546
00:27:58,700 --> 00:28:01,000
we keep on top of this as it 
develops, hopefully something 

547
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,300
will come out of this situation 
with these six will sborz come 

548
00:28:04,300 --> 00:28:06,000
forward. 
And who knows? 

549
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,400
Maybe we'll discover some little
bit of Truth mixed in with all 

550
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,900
of the deep state lies. 
Until next time, this is UFO 

551
00:28:12,900 --> 00:28:13,800
morning over down.
