Hello and welcome to the program UFO morning.
In this episode, we're looking at six whistleblowers, that's
correct. Six whistleblowers according to
the Daily Mail, six wheels of Lords have come forward, The
Spill. The Beans.
I want to go through this article.
There's some things in it that are kind of groundbreaking and
there's a couple things in here, just not.
So sure about this article comes to us from Daily Mail. .Co.uk
written by Josh Boswell dated April.
Six 2023 and the title says exclusive 6 whistleblowers who
claim they worked on Military UFO programs retrieving and
analyzing crash material, have come forward to spill their
secrets to senior members of Congress but it goes on and says
lawyer. Daniel Sheehan said he's in
contact with at least six, former officials are military
contractors. Who say, they worked on UFO
programs, the whistleblowers claim.
They worked on Roswell style, UFO, crash retrieval and reverse
engineering programs and have spoken.
Members of Congress. The attorney is launching a
watchdog charity pushing for greater government transparency
on UFOs. You know.
I don't have a good feeling when these guys come out and they
make a big announcement that they've got the goods but we
can't have the goods because they're talking to Congress.
Whoever a secondly don't have a good feeling when someone tells
me they're going to set up a watchdog charity, because
charity organizations, pretty tough to set up, there's a lot
of oversight. Like you just don't get it.
Go out and make one of these I suppose unless you're the
clintons and not worry about where the money goes.
So that's it. That's two red flags right there
but we'll continue. It says senior members of
Congress have spoken to as many as six whistleblowers who claim
they worked on Roswell style, UFO crash retrievals and reverse
engineering programs according to a top attorney at leading
Stanford scientists at X UFO program officials for decades.
It has been Subject 2 spooky TV shows.
And sci-fi novels the theory that the government has alien
spacecraft in a bunker somewhere and has been trying to
disassemble an understand their technology.
Well, that's been, that's been a thought for a long time.
And with good reason, it says, but things are not where things
got a lot more. Real after Congress passed a law
last year, creating whistleblower protections for
anyone who has worked in such mind-boggling secret programs.
Suggesting they may be more than just Fiction?
Well, that's a positive development.
In 2023 National Defense, authorization act ndaa signed
into law by President Joe. Biden, December included, an
amendment, requiring the Pentagon to give high-ranking
Senators classified reports on any previously, undisclosed
programs relating to unidentified anomalous
phenomena. Now, see, they work haunted
unidentified aerial phenomena, so they change the name on you.
Again, they just can't stop messing with the verbiage.
It's maddening, including with respect to material retrieval
material analysis, and reverse engineering.
You know, I have to wonder what those guys are getting.
If it's not just some kind of glossed over you know limited
hangout and exclusive in an exclusive interview if they like
mail.com Daniel Sheehan said he is in contact with at least six
former government officials or military contractors who say
they worked on just such a A system.
You know what they say? First rule about Fight Club,
don't talk about Fight Club, really be concern for these guys
and it has a picture of the of the tourney here.
Daniel Sheehan, distinguished-looking,
gray-haired Old Gentleman goes on down.
It says she had represents Lou Elizondo.
This is a major red flag for me, because people really I get a
lot of hate for saying this, for questioning loose story, but
look, I'm not, I'm not, Okay with Lou reportedly.
We don't know, allegedly getting the Tic-Tac video in a brown.
Paper bag passed off to him by Christopher medal on.
That's the story, don't know if it's true, just putting it out
there. But this idea that Lou, some
whole somehow when this whole organization when it turns out,
it sounds like it was just him and the whole thing is just so
cloudy. And so opaque.
Yeah, he worked in the dod but then it comes out and says,
well, he was actually doing the UFO research on his own.
We don't know what was going on. The whole thing is just, I don't
know, it's just suspect to me. And now blue is making money
doing the doing the UFO circuit, fine, whatever.
But I've had people say, well, you know, you can't criticize
Lou because he's not making any money off, those, it's not true.
These guys are all making money and I don't begrudge than that.
I mean, you know, it's a person does need some kind of
compensation just to survive, okay.
But that aside still a little bit of a red flag She hadn't
represents Lou Elizondo, who ran a previous incarnation of the
UFO office called a tip until 2017.
The attorney is also launching a watchdog charity pushing for
greater government transparency on UFOs.
Now, listen, what do you need the charity for for these
Charities? This is not something that you
should just under take lightly when people go to prison for
charity fraud. So I've got another red flag
popping up right there. She had said that some of these
half dozen whistleblowers Brief the staff of Senate committees
dealing with Military Intelligence even before the
ndaa past and may have been the inspiration for senators to
include the reverse engineering language.
Well, maybe, but any of us that have been following the stuff
for any length of time, know that reverse engineering has
been a hot topic. For many years, there are half a
dozen of them that have already gone and talked to them.
He said the Senate staff people were reaching out to some
others. Xi'an says Witnesses, who Really
know about Roswell style programs, including a former
Defense intelligence agency director and what if he's
talking about Ratcliffe have been referred for interviews
with the pentagon's UFO office, the all domain anomaly,
resolution office. Well we just saw what happened
with with arrow Kilpatrick shows up and says I don't see
anything. Look, you have to get this
investigation completely out of the hands of the Pentagon if you
want to have any kind of resolution.
Okay, set up a separate entity. I don't care if If you Outsource
it, to a university, somewhere, whatever, you're never going to
get the truth out of the Pentagon.
Let's just be honest about that. A top Stanford scientist says he
is also in touch with whistleblowers and this is where
it gets interesting now because we've talked about this guy
before multiple times on the show immunologist and Nobel
Prize nominee dr. Gary Nolan, remember dr.
Gary Nolan. He's the guy that ran the
experiments at Sanford where the said that the federal government
brought in 150 We've been injured by UFO contact and that
a quarter of them died that Gary Nolan.
We did the whole thing on a whole series.
On the podcast, you can go back on the, buy me a coffee website.
You can go to the links there. Okay, I'm going to continue.
This is where I have an issue with this article.
It says immunologists and Nobel Prize nominee.
Dr. Gary Nolan was commissioned by the CIA to investigate cases
of the mysterious Havana syndrome.
Inflicting officials worldwide now from why I understand that
statement right there, it is completely untrue.
I watch the videos with Nolan. I've been digging around trying
to find the exact quote on it. This stuff gets buried.
Let me tell you, but it's out there somewhere.
Maybe there's a maybe you could hit it on one of the links that
I didn't buy me a copy. I'm not going to spend four
hours on this, but as I recall and I and I feel sure enough
about this that I would testify under oath.
It's my recollection. Then when Gary Coleman was
interviewed in one of those articles we did, or One of the
videos. He said, that, as the study
progressed at Stanford where they examine these hundred and
fifty people, they started to discover some things.
They just started to discover that this certain region in the
center of the brain was enlarged, didn't know if it was
from the accident, they thought it was just that these people
happen to be more perceptive to UFOs.
And that's why they reported the contact.
And then he talked about another thing that happened with the
brain that look like, but somebody had believe it has Ms
where you have this kind of cloudy on the x-rays.
With a nerves are over stimulated.
It's almost like an immune response reaction and he talked
about how people were seriously injured from contact with these
UFOs. These were all federal
employees. I guess implying that maybe they
were pilots or military people or whatever, they either, they'd
handle the material. He says that he has some UFO
material walked away. So the either they touch the
stuff where they were near proximity to UFO, whether they
were working on it and reverse engineering reverse engineering
program, or whether they were a pilot or whatever.
They were close contact or even touched a UFO or UFO material
and they were injured by it. So Heath on two, things in that
study that most people, that, that, that were able to
recognize UFOs, they had this enlarged area in the brain.
It's almost like a give them like, it was the area of the
brain. That's what that is associated
with intuition. So it's like these people, maybe
were able to see UFOs. That are there all along, but
the rest of us don't see. That was kind of the that was
The takeaway from that was one part of it.
Let's small part of it. The major part, though, he was
studying, was that these people were actually injured by coming
into contact with these UFOs or UFO material.
And that was a very negative response, as he said, it looked
like they, the brain x-rays look like something from person with
Ms, where the immune system at had over responded.
You had these cloudy areas in the brain.
And in fact, I was 150, people are so that that he examined 25%
of them that be what, like, 30 some of them ended up dying.
So they were killed by contact with this UFO and then he goes
on an interview. And he describes how many of the
symptoms were very, very similar to what was being reported with
Havana syndrome where the CIA agents are around the globe,
were claiming that they've been targeted somehow and they were
injured and he brought this up to the government to the CIA,
they shut him down. They didn't want anything about
it. It that makes me think that it
wasn't the Cubans or the Russians.
The Chinese that were attacking these people, some sort of here,
dimensional, extraterrestrial. Whatever it was.
He's guys, are messing with that's what caused it, because
it had the same sort of symptoms that the people could come in
contact with UFOs with. He's like, this can't just be
this to similar. There has to be some connection
and when he brought that up to the CIA boom study gone.
See you mr. Nolan and this is extremely high
ranking individual, super smart guy.
You can watch the videos Autumn easy.
He's on YouTube. He has his own lab named after a
Stanford. He's done some amazing work.
This guy's got to have an IQ of like 200.
I don't know. He is a regular freaking ice to
Einstein. Just listen to him.
It's amazing. Listen to this guy talk.
So anyways says immunologist and Nobel Prize nominee dr.
Gary Nolan was commissioned by the CIA to investigate cases of
mysterious have Anna syndrome. Inflicting Embassy officials
worldwide and was conducting experiments.
Analyzing material, allegedly jettison, and UFO flyovers.
See they're changing the narrative on you.
They're complete. This this is the mail and I have
to think that this is intentional.
I mean the New York Post the sun, they all did articles on
this back. In 2021 and 2022 long, detailed
up articles, Vice did this 30-minute almost interview with
him and all three of them is interviews consistent.
He says, he talks about doing the experiments on these people
that were brought to him by the federal government who had been
injured by UFOs. And then, like I said, I
couldn't find it's probably been scrubbed from the internet, but
at the one of those articles at the very end, they caught him or
maybe having an interview, he says it.
It was he brought up that this Havana syndrome, and this UFO
injuries, he was investigating. Look like the same thing that's
when they shut him down. So the CIA did not that we have,
I have no evidence that the CIA hired dr.
Gary Nolan to investigate cases of the mysterious have had a
syndrome. That's just an outright lie.
And if somebody can show me something where it says he did,
please send it to me. Push it on Twitter.
Something I would love to know because everything I found so
far is exactly the Opposite. He started his work before the
Havana syndrome was even a thing as from what I can tell.
And then from everything I've read in the news a CI.
It's just basically swept the Savannah syndrome under the rug.
They want nothing to do with it, which tells me there's something
there. What are these guys doing for
all? We know, they could be, they
could be messing around experimenting with UFO material
and other countries and that could, and they don't want us to
know that. And that's why that they shut
this whole thing down, but for for the mill to put this in
there, Outsourcing it. And that's, that's really not
ethical in my opinion. He claims to be in contact with
several former staffers of extraordinary UFO, reverse
engineering programs. That's true.
In the interview he did with Vice and you can look that up
Ali, two minutes, he talks about having UFO metamaterial they
come back, he shows some stuff. He says, he basically tells the
vice reporter that look what I've got to probably just like
exhaust or something. And he talks about how the
federal government probably has tough.
It's way more advanced like you said, What would they care if we
had this exhaust material when they've got the engine?
I think he probably does suspect more stuff, but he's not able to
say it. Anyway, says I, I have good
reason to trust. The number of individuals who
are were actually part of the reverse engineering are very
close to the reverse engineering programs or who have testified
to the fact. Recently, he said in the podcast
interview earlier this year when you testify, you're under oath.
So these people are putting their Careers at risk for
breaking one oath of secrecy and taking another, that's correct.
People have to understand that they're sworn to secrecy when
they go to work on these projects.
And then what are they supposed to do?
When they're putting it off, they really are literally put
between a rock and a hard place. It says aaro director, Sean
Kilpatrick may have hinted that his office says indeed.
Interviewed whistleblowers and testimony decided to Christian
gillibrand at a senate armed services Committee hearing on
Wednesday, Hannah. That's that's silliness they've
already come out. They've done some.
Interviews. They were told, hey, you guys
need to go back and interview, some these people who have had
experiences and what do we find about, was it call us the guy
that was the the military guy at the nuclear missile base, was it
Colorado? And Wyoming.
Remember we talked about the UFOs coming down, he gets a
phone call. You know, 60 years later.
Don't tell us who the other people were.
Just tell us about your experience, a complete gloss
over. Okay, I'm sure they already have
a good idea what happened, but they're having to go ahead.
Cross the dots across the t's and Dot the I's because they
need to keep that funding coming in.
Okay? Congress has mandated that your
office established a discoverable and accessible
electronic method or for potential Witnesses of UAP
incidence and potential participants and government.
UAP related activities to contact your office to tell you
stories. Go Rex had to kill Patrick
Congress. Also, set up a process whereby
people who are subject to non-disclosure agreements.
Preventing them from disclosing what they may have witnessed or
participated in could tell you. You what they know without risk
of Retribution, from the violation of their in DA's now,
that's just a stupid. I'm sorry.
Honey, look, if they wanted to set up an electronic method for
people to tell their story, ask new van or Norfork whatever it's
called these we already have UFO Reporting all over the Internet.
It's not hard to do. It's pretty pretty simple
actually and they could do that very easily if they wanted to
but they're just making excuses. They don't want it.
Did they want to contain the knowledge you want to hold the
knowledge? They want to embargo as from the
knowledge and then as far as these guys coming to the dod
depending on to tell their story are you crazy?
You're sending them back into the lions den to tell what
they've been threatened with prison.
If they tell set up a set up a whistleblowers office on Capitol
Hill, okay, you need to give these guys some kind of Refuge.
When do you expect that? You will establish a
public-facing discoverable access port hole for people to
use the contact your office as the law requires.
And then says, thank you all very much for referring the
witnesses that you have thus far to us.
I appreciate that. Kirkpatrick replied.
We brought in nearly two dozen so far.
All you add a 600 cases, you bite in 24, people.
That's awesome. Some of them from 30 40 years
ago, he added that an online portal for Witnesses had been
submitted for approval. It would take Less than an hour
to build that website, okay. It's pretty simple thing to do.
He goes on, he says, Kirkpatrick a veteran intelligence officer
and physicists, you know, a veteran intelligence officer.
Why don't you just put somebody in there from the outside?
Okay, told Senators his office willfully will follow scientific
evidence, wherever it leads, but said that Aro has found no
credible evidence. Thus far of extraterrestrial
activity offer will technology or objects that defy the known
laws of physics. Yeah, that metal ball.
All flying across Mosel suspected mid-flight, a high
rate of speed making, right? Turns whatever it did that that
didn't defy the laws of physics. No nothing to see here.
Move along, he says, another Nobel Prize nominee and CIA
scientist doctor helped put talk.
Now, look, I have some questions about this guy, he's got, let's
just say an interesting past, okay?
Not that, not to denigrate him but you the Skeptics have some
traction here with this fellow, okay?
And I'm just going to leave it at that.
So I just take it with a grain of salt.
I don't like it. My see, these celebrities moving
into the space when we have some little bit of progress.
Like we're Congress says, okay. We're going to pass along that
gives people that that illuminates previous nda's.
So we're going to allow people to come forward.
Me whistleblowers going to pass the whistleblower law.
That's actual progress, really? Because then it, it perhaps
removes the threat of imprisonment.
If these guys come forward and talk about what they've seen,
that's a good thing and we can just do that.
We don't need to surround that that one little advancement,
with all of these celebrity UFO people.
I mean where they come in and they just inject themselves into
the situation in between making appearances on the lecture
circuit and picking up checks, I just don't like it.
Okay, so I says another Nobel Prize nominee and cie scientist.
Dr. Help put up. Who worked in the government's
2008. Twelve UFO program called a, aw
sap told daily mail.com that he had brief Congress on
classified. Information, about reverse
engineering programs, and new of whistleblowers who had worked in
the alleged programs. Quote, I don't consider myself.
Secretly coming out of the Shadows, the way whistleblowers
may. He said I can just speak to what
I learned in Congress and Congressional supported programs
that they paid for it. We were specifically tasked with
collecting, whatever evidence we could collect from military
individuals contractors. As to the reality, what evidence
there is put off said he knew I'm military contractors.
Were officials who worked on reverse engineering programs who
are now coming forward to Arrow. After the new whistleblower
protection was added to the ndaa.
Look, they need to come be able to come forward to the senator
of the congressman's office. Forcing these guys to go back
into the belly of the Beast to spill her guts is not a good
thing. The ones I know of felt it was a
respect responsibility to tell what they knew and they were not
right. As any said, certain people in
that category with fall into the Whistleblower, Regime.
I can't comment. In detail the former CIA laser
scientists added. Well, you know what they say?
Once CIA always a CIA, we just can't seem to break free of this
intelligence, whatever you want to call it.
I defense department spokesman told Ellie mail.com that they
have not yet found any UFO programs that were improperly
kept from Congress but they haven't finished their search
but you wouldn't find it because they're buried.
In addition to a ours, principal mission to address current
operations regarding you. AP are Arrow is also conducting
a stroke or review the government's identification and
resolution of you Apec. UAP activities including
speaking to Witnesses for authorized disclosures, as
prescribed by law DOD. Spokeswoman Susan go said, well
isn't that nice Sue's involved? Well, look we at Bob's huh,
laughs? That was his name.
We talked about his report that he was contacted by.
These guys wanting to know about his experience back.
What was in 1983 or something? When the UFO shut down the
nuclear silos, Us and they specifically said, don't name
anybody. That was with you that night.
Have you ever heard of that investigation with a cop, didn't
ask for the names of everybody? That was there with you.
Come on, they're just doing, it's a cover-up.
Okay, A little frosting on the cake, the shut up.
The Congress. People to shut up the UFO crowd
and, and then the Deep bunkers can go along and say, well, we
told you, there was nothing there.
It says, while there have been nearly two, dozen people at Aro,
has interviewed confidentially and securely, I don't know.
They called him on the phone. He talked about it.
Is that confidential and secure? I don't think so.
Jr has not finished this data collection or its analysis.
We will not comment on our findings prior to reporting them
to Congress. Well no you'll need a couple
more million dollars to transcribe that phone call as
described by law. A arrow has 72 hours to report
to Congress on any program discovered that it's not been
properly reported to Congress. For appropriate oversight, none
has been sound so far. Well sure, it's probably just
Kilpatrick by himself over there in an office somewhere in the
middle of the Pentagon and he's going to report on the Pentagon
man. Not a few values.
His life documentarian, James Fox told the amazing people
podcast on April 4th 2024. That he had just interviewed at
least for whistleblowers who had testified to kill Patrick with
evidence of UFO crash retrieval programs.
Those people should be really, really careful if they actually
You know anything, that's all I would say.
I would tell everybody or tell. Nobody, there are elected
officials that are right now coming to the realization that
these programs exist. That we probably do have
recovered debris. Fox said they're hearing
testimony from this whistleblower protection.
That's recently been signed into law.
I met with intelligence folks that had just met me.
Had just met with Kilpatrick and met with Senate.
Intel, they couldn't share every single detail because it was
classified, but they did with them, some of them are retired.
A lot of they I'm were still employed what they're basically
saying is these reverse engineering programs exist, he
added I have this on camera, don't take it from me, don't
take my testimony but I'm here to tell you.
This is the name of the program. This is a location blah blah
blah. Now look the problem with this
is until we have transparency. What you frequently end up with,
there's some people that can show from their employment
history, the resume that. Hey, I worked with the deity of
already. This ride to that, they can
associate a couple of alpha, alphabet, interest them.
And then they can travel the UFO circuit, making big money on
speeches. That's not how it should.
Work. We need to have Clarity.
We need to have transparency. This stuff needs to be this
stuff needs to be hashed out in public hearings or where we can
all hear it. And then they can go on the
public speaking to her and says it made the claims are Roswell
style crash retrieval programs on Friday us intelligence
leaders held an unprecedented briefing at Wright-Patterson Air
Force Base and Dayton Ohio, a site with deep historic.
Rumored links to our foes reports after the notorious
alleged 1947 Flying Saucer crash.
In Roswell, New Mexico claim that the supposed record was
taken to Wright-Patterson. Yeah, we know all about this and
then it says last week, CIA director, William Burns,
Director of National Intelligence Avril, Haines
National, Security Agency, director General, Paul nakasone,
and several members of the House, permanent select
committee on intelligence, flew to the secretive base for a
meeting on topics, including Chinese spy, balloons or in
Ukraine. Recently some classified
documents by National Guard, Airmen, Jack ticks area?
I don't know. What is that?
Be As a trip mean what are the accomplishing they couldn't?
They couldn't do that. On a resume call?
They couldn't just get together there in d.c., you know, so much
of this, just seems like politics to me, it really does.
It says, one Congressman publicly put the Pentagon a
notice that he was aware of claims of UFO tinkering
programs, evading proper oversight by lawmakers, during
the first public hearing on unidentified objects and over 50
years last May at the historic meeting Wisconsin.
Republican, Mike Gallagher entered into the Congressional
Record and explosive document that will Austin Davis notes.
I would encourage representative.
Mike Gallagher, not to get on a small plane anytime soon.
Yeah. Anyway, the article continues on
there a little ways. I'm not going to finish the
whole thing out, but the gist of it is you have reportedly six
whistleblowers have come forward to tell Congress members that
hey we worked on programs that involve reverse engineering UFO,
crafted parts and in this article It does an OK job
representing that but it also brings in all of the local UFO
celebrities from melon to Louis Elizondo to put off.
Just type these guys names in Google.
These guys are, they're traveling the circuit, they're
making the money and so fine, whatever, but you have to under,
you have to ask yourself. Well, is that affecting the news
that we're getting? Why is all of this really
interesting news being monetized before it's released to us
anyway, the article goes on and talks through this.
And then it brings up about dr. Gary Nolan which we've covered
extensively on this program, it incorrectly reports its is I'm
as I'm saying it, I believe is incorrectly reporting that he
was hired by the CIA to investigate the Havana syndrome.
When in fact, we know from the New York Post and some reporting
that he was hired to investigate these UFO injuries people
sustained 150 injured, 25% of them dying from their injuries
and in the course of those Reviews.
As I recall he came out and said that he was taken off the
project when he even mentioned the correlation between those
injuries and the Havana syndrome.
So you can see these parallel narratives being developed as
the story emerges. I mean wow right there at the
beginning, we just find out that there's six whistleblowers
coming forward. They send out these retired.
Deep state employees who are now UFO, celebrities the kind of
Shepherd the story along they even insert documents.
After Gary Nolan into the story incorrectly reported that the
CIA was. So concerned about the Havana
syndrome, when it looks like from everything, he told us that
if they were more concerned with covering it up.
So you see how you see, how you see, how they form the
narrative? Instead of just letting us,
instead of just rolling, the dice, and whatever comes up,
comes up, they're not interested in transparency, they're not
interested. This disclosure, and the
disclosure that we're getting is almost accidental.
So I suppose the best that we can hope for is just to as they
say, eat the hay and leave the stubble but I found the article
interesting even though it was jilted a couple spots and what
we keep on top of this as it develops, hopefully something
will come out of this situation with these six will sborz come
forward. And who knows?
Maybe we'll discover some little bit of Truth mixed in with all
of the deep state lies. Until next time, this is UFO
morning over down.