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Hello and welcome to the 
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You have the warning, today's 
topic, the Belgian wave And 

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we're not talking about the kind
of wave they do in football 

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stadiums. 
Now, this was a wave of UFO. 

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Sightings that occurred in 
Belgium, 30 years ago, I found 

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this article on the week.com 
written by java.lang titled 30 

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years later, we still don't know
what really happened. 

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During that Belgium UFO, wave 
the article begins. 

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At first the witnesses claimed. 
All you noticed, were the 

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lights. 
They were so bright. 

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You could read by them. 
So, brilliant. 

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That a policeman describe Them 
as like lights on a huge 

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football field only gradually, 
did you notice the object a 

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minute from a hulking, 
triangular shape with three, 

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enormous spotlights pointed 
toward the ground and a red 

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flashing light at its Center. 
The whole thing, we called the 

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policeman is if barely able to 
believe himself was floating in 

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the air. 
It was a clear November night in

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1989 near the town of upin 
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some seven miles from the German
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Nicole, the policeman and his 
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I called their dispatcher to 
report the object they said 

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they'd set stumbled on while on 
a routine Patrol. 

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Suddenly, they told me they were
seeing a strange object in the 

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sky Albert kreutz, who was on 
the receiving? 

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End told the unsolved mystery 
1972 episode. 

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It made no noise. 
We joked about it. 

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And said, it might be Santa 
Claus trying to land Now, you 

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can imagine seeing this enormous
triangular shape, with this. 

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Brilliant Spotlight coming down.
These three red spots. 

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On the corners of it. 
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Claus sleigh, but, you know, 
people, sometimes when they see 

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these things become a little bit
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And I could understand why that 
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but by the time the evening was 
over, at least 30 different 

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groups and three separate pairs 
of police officers, would allege

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to have seen the unidentified 
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I want to notice how the use of 
word alleged here, you know, if 

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those same people and those 
police officers saw, somebody 

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commits a crime rob, a bank and 
wonder if they will use the word

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allege, but when something like 
this happens at so, out of the 

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ordinary, so different from our 
normal everyday life, It's even 

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hard for people to accept that 
it's real when the whole 

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Community sees it. 
It says, by the time the evening

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was over, at least 30 different 
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of police officers, would allege
to have seen that unidentified 

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flying object and they wouldn't 
be the last belgians months-long

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UFO wave culminated. 30 years 
ago today on March 30th 1990 and

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a physics Divine in a physics. 
Defying Chase through the Skies 

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over Europe is to Belgium Air 
Force f-16s pursued, mysterious 

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objects on their radars. 
That they couldn't even see. 

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So they were able to see the 
option radar but they weren't 

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able to make a eye contact eyes 
on observation of these things. 

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So we see a couple things going 
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We see these, we see these giant
UFOs intentionally or perhaps it

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unintentionally, interacting 
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Do these. 
Enormous bright fluorescent 

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lights, that just seemed to 
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They fly over and we're also 
seeing another trait that we see

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in these UFOs. 
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disappearing act people on the 
ground, see them, but people 

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pursuing them in the jet 
airplanes, the pilots can make 

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no eye contact, they do however 
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It appears as though they're 
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to the human eye and actually 
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seems like they're able to do it
pretty easily. 

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The article goes on. 
But, okay, okay. 

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Today, aliens really visit 
Belgium. 

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It certainly seems deeply deeply
unlikely yet. 

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Three decades later. 
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dismiss the two thousand odd. 
Sightings that took place in the

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country between November 1989 
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Now here again, we see the bias 
of somebody who is an 

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unbeliever. 
I don't know why it would seem 

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really, really unlikely, deeply 
unlikely when people use the 

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emotional emotional emotional, 
It's like this. 

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It's almost as if their own fear
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through. 
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even able to entertain the 
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UFOs. 
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They don't seem to have any kind
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they're up against. 
It's just it's just this 

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storybook nature. 
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taught from the time they were a
child that we all evolve from 

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rocks and that everything here 
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It's as if they haven't even as 
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level to where they could even 
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The notion that quantum physics 
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So many things in our universe 
goes on us as Patrick Fern, the 

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president of Belgium of the 
Belgian committee for the study 

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of space. 
Phenomena SOB EPS. 

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Told the telegraph, you must 
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sightings will have the most 
banal explanation. 

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But there is a residue, which we
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And of those are maybe two or 
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questions over, where they came 
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This is another little bit of of
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People used to explain UFOs and 
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think he's their minds. 
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well, you know, most of these 
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just the simplest terms and 
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We can't explain. 
So they put those over in the 

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corner and they 
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Authentic UFO, sightings with 
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thousands and thousands of false
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Maybe there are a lot of false 
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lots and lots of good reports 
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investigators say and it's kind 
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common Story. 
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about the one white crow and you
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thing. 
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there, all crows are black and 
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only takes one crow to break 
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broken, Then your statement 
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crows is no longer true. 
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doesn't matter if there's a 
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are 10,000 UFO, sightings 
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If one person legitimately saw a
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legitimately saw a UFO. 
If that one UFO exist, then it 

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totally defies. 
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that there are no UFOs. 
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see these cases where you have 
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police officers, who quite 
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based on their testimony. 
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UFO, their testimony doesn't 
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And when the debunkers come up 
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observation cases, then they 
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they don't count. 
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million of UFO cases that don't 
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We're talking about the ones 
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ones that matter and no matter 
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debunk, the mistaken identities,
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hoaxers, all that Doesn't, it 
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that there are no UFOs article 
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And says, Lots can be lots can 
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example, a classic photograph of
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No one is the pet. 
It retching picture is without a

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doubt, a hoax, the forger 
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forward. 2011, we made the model
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We painted it, and then we 
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then we suspend it in the air. 
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prankster confessed to Reuters. 
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producer of the podcast skeptoid
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sightings arguing that the 
November apparitions were. 

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In fact, a helicopter and that 
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were interviewed by biased you 
fol just conflicting information

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published by Reuters claims 
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upin were from a Soviet 
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at that point. 
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Colonel Andrei, Amin who claim 
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The Belgian military needless to
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descriptions pouring in from 
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little, in the way of answers, 
the chief of operations of the 

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air staff General, wolfer, 
devour who offered his account 

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to investigative reporter Lisa 
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Buck UFOs generals. 
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record said that his initial 
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Aircraft were his country. 
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enquiries with the u.s. 
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the Americans to create a memo 
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UFO issue, which confirmed that 
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at risking starting a war in 
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American, southwest to do 
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continues to report your 
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Air Force Federal Aviation 
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A plan to try to catch one of 
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action by preparing. 
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It accounts and UFOs that night 
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policemen and two military, 
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try to intercept the alleged 
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recorded Targets on their radar 
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jumping, huge, distances, and 
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human capacity by our rights. 
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with the Tic Tac videos that the
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and the Skeptics and All the 
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whatever they want to negatively
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But the fact is these sightings 
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Military radar. 
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of these both of these? 
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The article goes on, but 
frustratingly the photos, the 

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pilots never managed to see the 
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They were pursuing after 
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readings. 
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that the evidence was 
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were real crafts in the air on 
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Well, let me tell you something,
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the White House. 
Lawn, the evidence is going to 

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be insufficient, it goes on to 
borrow reports, still throughout

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1990. 
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never specifically account for 
the sightings which, which all 

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told numbered in the thousands 
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They quietly started going away 
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explanations are still in short 
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now consider the event to be an 
example of mass hysteria 

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certainly and I'm sure that the 
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radar tracking by the Two 
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It goes on here, and it gives 
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why it could have been mastix. 
Massac hysteria, which were not 

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really interested in. 
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of the article, it says, what we
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there is a lot. 
We don't yet understand about 

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our earn about our universe. 
Even the US Army has multiple 

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stories of chasing strange and 
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while the Belgium UFO wave. 
Likely wasn't a visitation from 

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Little Green Men. 
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doing there. 
They're, they're playing down 

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this thing. 
They're bringing in a little bit

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of mocking, and they're not, 
they're not using any kind of 

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logic or fax the body to back up
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Well, the Belgium wave likely 
wasn't a visitation, by Little 

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Green Men. 
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visitation by little green, man.
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people. 
That's all giant triangular, 

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triangular craft hovering in the
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white light down on them. 
With these three ominous-looking

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red lights, positioned and a 
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the triangle. 
That's why they saw no one said 

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anything about green men? 
It goes on says today. 

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There is not yet any 
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Well, that's correct among the 
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Who saw the lights with his wife
told Cain. 

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That is a Pity because I want to
know before dying. 

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Give me a correct explanation at
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ask. 
Well, I like the fact that they 

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reported what happened in the 
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I didn't like the fact that the 
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the Arctic, which we didn't even
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debunkers, don't add anything 
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To the phenomena of UFO. 
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just they're sucking the life 
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Now if somebody wants to be an 
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questions, that's one thing 
that's fine is that vestigators?

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We should be skeptical but we 
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2,000 people report seeing the 
same thing from all different 

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kinds of angles. 
That's one piece of evidence is 

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called eye witness evidence. 
We live in a society that sends 

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people a sense people for crying
out loud to life in prison or 

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the death chamber based on eye 
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That's a fact sometimes 
eyewitness evidence can be 

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biased or can be mistaken, but 
when a couple of thousand 

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people, including a whole bunch 
of police officers, see the same

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craft at the same time and this 
happens repeatedly over a period

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of say three or four months. 
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some Credence to that bit of 
evidence, which is an eyewitness

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testimony. 
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this is fine, but when you're 
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skeptic who wasn't in the area 
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really don't have anything to 
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When you are, I look at one of 
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One of these UFO cases as a 
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What we're adding is a 
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from an open mind on a closed 
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So if we walk into this thing 
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don't know what happened but 
let's read about what other 

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people say happen and then we 
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On what we feel a likelihood. 
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it's true, we can say, well, it 
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it was a truth or maybe 90% or 
maybe I'm totally convinced. 

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But when they interview these 
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see them all the time on the 
History Channel or every 

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documentary seems like they want
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goofballs and they add nothing 
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All there therefore is to ease 
the mind of the people who are 

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too afraid to believe are too 
afraid to Except the possibility

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of the UFO phenomena for some 
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For some reason, the Paradigm, 
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reality. 
They've created does not allow 

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them possibility to believe in 
anything paranormal or 

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Supernatural when we are 
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the Paranormal Supernatural. 
So to say that, A wave of these 

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giant UFO. 
Swept over Belgium, for three 

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months, and then were witnessed 
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Well, that's not beyond the 
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For those of us who understand 
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Things can happen in life, but 
for people that live their life,

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as if the world is built out of 
Tinker Toys and every little 

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block has to be stacked on top 
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I think sometimes these 
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The reviewer reality and they'll
go miles to debunk them. 

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At any rate, it was an 
interesting article and that was

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a really fascinating time back 
there in 1989 1990 in Belgium 

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when this wave of giant 
triangular shaped UFOs were 

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spotted moving across the 
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There's some great documentaries
on it, a lot of good visual 

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stuff recommend, you take a look
until next time, this is UFO 

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warning over and out.