1 00:00:02,900 --> 00:00:04,500 Hello and welcome to the program. 2 00:00:04,500 --> 00:00:09,300 You have a warning, today's topic 1959 and it laughs pass 3 00:00:09,300 --> 00:00:11,200 incident. That's correct. 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,700 We're talking about the 1959, did it? 5 00:00:13,700 --> 00:00:16,600 Laughs pass incident. If you're not familiar with 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,500 this, you're going to want to tune in because this definitely 7 00:00:19,500 --> 00:00:23,500 qualifies as high strangeness. And I found this article on 8 00:00:23,500 --> 00:00:28,900 Smart news and specifically this website is Smithsonian Meg.com 9 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,300 peers to be written by Mel on Sully Smithsonian mag.com, 10 00:00:33,300 --> 00:00:38,200 January, 29th, 2021 and I'll put a link at the website. 11 00:00:38,300 --> 00:00:40,800 UFO, warning.com the article begins. 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:45,300 It says in February 1959 University student, Mikhail, 13 00:00:45,300 --> 00:00:47,700 sure oven. Hoping I'm pronouncing that 14 00:00:47,700 --> 00:00:51,000 correctly made an unexpected discovery on the slopes of the 15 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,700 Ural Mountains. Dispatched as a member of a 16 00:00:53,700 --> 00:00:56,400 search party investigating a group of nine experienced 17 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,500 hikers. Disappearance sure oven and his 18 00:00:59,500 --> 00:01:03,200 fellow Whoa, Rescuers. Spotted the corner. 19 00:01:04,900 --> 00:01:07,200 Of a tent peeking out beneath the snow. 20 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:12,400 As he told BBC News, lusatian 2019 inside, they found 21 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,900 supplies, including a flask of vodka, a map and a plate of 22 00:01:16,900 --> 00:01:20,600 silos, white pork fat. All seemingly abandoned without 23 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,500 warning, a slash and a side of the tent suggested that someone 24 00:01:24,500 --> 00:01:29,200 had used a knife to carve out an escape route from within while 25 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,000 Footprints leading away from the shelter, indicate that some of 26 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,400 the Mountaineers Adventure doubt, in Sub-Zero, temperatures 27 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:42,000 Barefoot or with only a single Boot and socks perplexed, the 28 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,400 search party decided to toast to the missing groups safety with a 29 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:51,600 flask Fallon and their tent. This is what people do people. 30 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,700 When they come upon disasters, oftentimes don't want to look at 31 00:01:55,700 --> 00:01:58,900 the obvious thing that happened but we're always hoping for the 32 00:01:58,908 --> 00:02:01,900 best outcome. Now, the article says quote, we 33 00:02:01,900 --> 00:02:04,200 shared the Vodka out between us, there were 11. 34 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,500 Us including the guides shrivel. We called, we were about to 35 00:02:07,500 --> 00:02:09,900 drink at one. One guy turned to me and said, 36 00:02:09,900 --> 00:02:13,700 let's not drink to their health but to their Eternal peace over 37 00:02:13,700 --> 00:02:17,000 the next several months, Rescuers recovered, all nine 38 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:21,400 hikers bodies /, BBC News, two of the men were found Barefoot 39 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,600 and clad only in their underwear. 40 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,300 While the majority of the group appeared to have died of 41 00:02:26,308 --> 00:02:31,000 hypothermia, at least for has sustained horrific and 42 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,200 inexplicable injuries, including a fractured skull. 43 00:02:34,300 --> 00:02:37,700 All broken ribs and a gaping gash to the Head. 44 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:44,400 One woman, 20 year old light, Amelia do, do being a Nina was 45 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,600 missing, both her eyeballs and her tongue. 46 00:02:47,900 --> 00:02:51,100 The wounds said Doctor Who examined the bodies were equal 47 00:02:51,100 --> 00:02:54,800 to the effect of a car crash. According to the documents 48 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,400 later, obtained by st. Petersburg's times, that's going 49 00:02:58,400 --> 00:02:59,800 to be important to think about this later. 50 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,400 What looks like it might even animal predation or some type of 51 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,900 a soul Actually probably from an impact wound. 52 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,800 Now, if you go to the article, you'll see the pictures of these 53 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:15,800 nine poor lost souls that were killed in this tragic situation. 54 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,900 At did Loft pass. The article is on it, says 55 00:03:17,900 --> 00:03:21,300 today, the so-called debt Loft pass incident named after the 56 00:03:21,300 --> 00:03:26,000 group's leader. 23 year, old ygor did Lop is one of Russia's, 57 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,500 most enduring Mysteries spawning conspiracy. 58 00:03:29,500 --> 00:03:31,700 Theories is varied as a military cover-up. 59 00:03:31,900 --> 00:03:36,400 UFO sighting in a and an abominable snowman attack 60 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,600 radiation, Fallout 4, secret weapons test. 61 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,600 And a clash with the indigenous man. 62 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,100 See people. But as Robin George Andrews 63 00:03:43,100 --> 00:03:46,500 reports for National Geographic. New research published in the 64 00:03:46,500 --> 00:03:49,800 journal Communications Earth and environment points toward a more 65 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:54,000 sensible explanation. Drawing on Advanced Computer 66 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,000 modeling, deposit that an unusually timed Avalanche 67 00:03:58,300 --> 00:04:02,200 sealed, the hikers fate now looks like after all these 68 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,800 years, the second course happened back in 1959. 69 00:04:05,500 --> 00:04:07,900 The been able to finally come up with another computer 70 00:04:07,900 --> 00:04:11,700 computational power to put the theory out there that would 71 00:04:11,700 --> 00:04:14,900 actually kill these. Poor people was an avalanche and 72 00:04:14,900 --> 00:04:19,300 the wounds that we see are actually impact wounds from that 73 00:04:19,300 --> 00:04:21,600 Avalanche. It says, we do not claim to have 74 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:26,000 solved the Map pass mystery is no one survived to tell their 75 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,200 story. Lead author. 76 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:31,500 John Johan Guam head of the snow and Avalanche simulation 77 00:04:31,500 --> 00:04:34,200 laboratory the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology tells 78 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,800 life science, brand inspector, but we show the plausibility of 79 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,600 the Avalanche hypothesis for the first time in 2019. 80 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,300 Russian authorities announced plans to revisit the incident 81 00:04:45,300 --> 00:04:48,600 which they attributed, not to your crime, but to an avalanche, 82 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,100 a snow slab, or a hurricane. So we can see that the Russians 83 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:56,200 I had been looking at this thing as a natural disaster not as say 84 00:04:56,500 --> 00:04:59,700 a paranormal event. The following year, the inquiry 85 00:04:59,700 --> 00:05:02,700 pinned, the hikers deaths on a combination of an avalanche 86 00:05:02,700 --> 00:05:06,300 importance ability as a state-owned riaa news agency. 87 00:05:06,300 --> 00:05:09,400 Reported in July, twenty twenty the official findings suggested 88 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:14,200 that a torrent of snow slabs are blocky chunks, surprise, the 89 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:18,100 sleeping victims, and push them to seek shelter, at a nearby 90 00:05:18,100 --> 00:05:20,500 Ridge. Unable to see more than 50 feet 91 00:05:20,500 --> 00:05:23,600 ahead, the hikers froze. Death, is it attempted to make 92 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,000 their way back to their 10? Given the official findings 93 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,800 black of key scientific scientific details as well as 94 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,200 the Russian government's notorious lack of transparency. 95 00:05:33,500 --> 00:05:36,800 However, this explanation failed to quell The public's curiosity 96 00:05:36,900 --> 00:05:40,900 / National Geographic critics of the slab. 97 00:05:40,900 --> 00:05:45,400 Avalanche Theory site for main counter argument says, Guam to 98 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,500 Live Science, the lack of physical traces of an avalanche 99 00:05:48,500 --> 00:05:51,800 found by Rescuers. The more than nine hour gap 100 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,400 between In the hikers building their Camp, a process that 101 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,900 required cutting into the mountain to form a barrier 102 00:05:57,900 --> 00:06:02,400 Against the Wind and their Panic departure, the shallow slope of 103 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,100 the campsite. And the traumatic injuries. 104 00:06:04,100 --> 00:06:07,000 Sustained by the group asphyxiation is a more common, 105 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,600 cause of death for Avalanche victims. 106 00:06:08,900 --> 00:06:11,900 So you can see here, where some of the people are saying, well, 107 00:06:11,900 --> 00:06:14,300 this couldn't have been an avalanche because the type of 108 00:06:14,308 --> 00:06:17,200 wounds sustained. Typically, if a person is buried 109 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:21,500 in an avalanche, they dive fixation but that's not what 110 00:06:21,500 --> 00:06:23,100 there. I think it's important to 111 00:06:23,108 --> 00:06:25,900 remember here though, and will point out that the Avalanches 112 00:06:25,900 --> 00:06:29,300 were talking about here, that that's theorize that killed 113 00:06:29,300 --> 00:06:33,400 these folks at dip my past is basically blocks of ice coming 114 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,600 down on you. It would be like the, it would 115 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:39,700 be like being a multiple car wrecks as opposed to a big pile 116 00:06:39,700 --> 00:06:42,700 of fluffy snow, just burying a 20 feet deep. 117 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,300 It goes on. And says, Guam and co-author, 118 00:06:47,300 --> 00:06:51,700 Alexander a and of geotechnical engineer at eth0 re-used 119 00:06:52,500 --> 00:06:54,300 historical records to create the mountains. 120 00:06:54,300 --> 00:06:57,500 Environment environment on the night of the detlef incident and 121 00:06:57,500 --> 00:07:01,600 attempted to address these seaming inconsistencies, then 122 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,700 the scientist right in the study, they simulated a slab 123 00:07:04,700 --> 00:07:09,000 Avalanche drawing on snow friction data and local 124 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,800 topography, which revealed that the slope wasn't actually 125 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,900 shallow as it had seemed to prove that a All slow. 126 00:07:15,900 --> 00:07:19,500 Slide could have swept through the area while leaving few 127 00:07:19,500 --> 00:07:22,800 traces behind now. I like this notion that they're 128 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,100 going back and they're trying to historically reconstruct the 129 00:07:26,100 --> 00:07:29,500 scene of the accident and they're applying the scientific 130 00:07:29,500 --> 00:07:32,700 method, they're using math to solve the problem. 131 00:07:32,900 --> 00:07:36,900 And so many times when we see paranormal investigations, it 132 00:07:36,900 --> 00:07:40,800 just comes down to well this is one person's opinion or maybe we 133 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:45,500 have eyewitness accounts but we don't we don't Have accurate 134 00:07:45,500 --> 00:07:48,800 clear, measurements of how things should up at the scene. 135 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:53,800 That's what I like so much about the old History Channel series 136 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,600 that was on a few years ago back about 10 12 years ago the UFO 137 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:00,000 Hunters they would go out and it would it would have a video and 138 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,900 then they would take the video to the lab and they would just 139 00:08:01,900 --> 00:08:04,600 go through step-by-step and scientifically analyzed 140 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,800 evidence. And that's what I see Happening 141 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:08,100 Here. With these folks are trying to 142 00:08:08,300 --> 00:08:12,000 scientifically analyze, the evidence that they have and what 143 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,400 evidence they don't have. They had to reconstruct. 144 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,600 Based on their weather reports from the time. 145 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:22,100 Now, it says the authors theorize, the katabatic winds 146 00:08:22,100 --> 00:08:25,600 are fast-flowing funnels are propelled by the forces of 147 00:08:25,608 --> 00:08:30,200 gravity transported, snow down the mountain, to the campsite it 148 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:34,400 was like somebody coming. It was like somebody coming and 149 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,299 showing the snow from one place and putting on the slope above 150 00:08:38,299 --> 00:08:41,100 the 10th person. Explains to New Scientist. 151 00:08:41,100 --> 00:08:44,000 Charles eventually, the accumulating snow became too 152 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:49,400 heavy for the slope of support. Now you probably know that as a, 153 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:53,000 as a pointed here later in the article, when you get to the 154 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,200 point where you had a 30 degree angle, that's when the slide 155 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,600 starts. And I think I was reading 156 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,900 somewhere with a pyramids, the Great Pyramid in Egypt that they 157 00:09:01,900 --> 00:09:04,700 started out building the step Pyramids and but then we see the 158 00:09:04,700 --> 00:09:08,500 pyramids evolve to a shape where they're approximately at a 30 159 00:09:08,500 --> 00:09:13,000 degree angle and it turns out if you pour sand in the pile, it 160 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,600 will slope at a natural. 30 degree angle. 161 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,500 So, it seems like what happened was they were on this Hillside 162 00:09:20,500 --> 00:09:22,800 camping and they cut into the hill. 163 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,200 And so, they actually put themselves in grave danger 164 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,400 because they create a situation, or they were in a situation 165 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,000 where they were beyond that point of the third degree angle. 166 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,700 So they were to vary Likely place for a snow slider, 167 00:09:35,700 --> 00:09:39,700 Avalanche to occur because it's a natural tendency of the 168 00:09:39,700 --> 00:09:43,200 physics is for things to assume a 30 degree angle. 169 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,800 It says it was like somebody coming and shoveling the snow 170 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,700 from one place and putting it on the slope above the tent. 171 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,200 Eventually the accumulating snow became too heavy for the slope 172 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,300 to support so you see that slope is above 30 degrees. 173 00:09:56,300 --> 00:09:59,700 It's going to slide down if they didn't make if they hadn't made 174 00:09:59,700 --> 00:10:02,300 a cut in the slope, nothing would have happened. 175 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,200 Wow. If they hadn't made a cut in the 176 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,200 slope, nothing would have happened if they would have just 177 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:11,200 pitched their tent there and not gotten fancy, they would have 178 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,200 been fine but by cutting into the slope, they altered the 179 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:19,100 natural state of things and then they basically created a 180 00:10:19,108 --> 00:10:21,400 man-made Avalanche isn't that scary? 181 00:10:21,700 --> 00:10:23,900 So many times it seems like we think we're doing the right 182 00:10:23,900 --> 00:10:26,900 thing in life. But maybe the thing that we're 183 00:10:26,900 --> 00:10:29,200 doing that we think is helping it's not it's not actually 184 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,900 helping at all. And Matt remember these folks 185 00:10:32,900 --> 00:10:37,800 were they were they were camping in extreme, conditions, extreme 186 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,500 cold extreme snow if they hadn't made a cut in the slope, nothing 187 00:10:41,500 --> 00:10:44,100 would have happened says prison and a statement, but a certain 188 00:10:44,100 --> 00:10:47,400 but at a certain point of crack would have formed and propagated 189 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,500 causing the snow slab. To release the research has 190 00:10:50,500 --> 00:10:52,800 unravelled the final piece of the puzzle. 191 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,900 The hikers. Unexplained injuries with a Of a 192 00:10:55,908 --> 00:10:59,900 surprising Source, Disney's 2013 film Frozen. 193 00:11:00,100 --> 00:11:02,900 According to National Geographic Guam was so impressed by the 194 00:11:02,900 --> 00:11:06,100 movie's depiction of snow that he asks gets created to share. 195 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,200 That he has his creditors who share the animation code with 196 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,600 him. This simulation tool coupled 197 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,300 with the data from the cadaver test conducted by General Motors 198 00:11:17,300 --> 00:11:21,700 1970s to determine what happened to the human body when struck at 199 00:11:21,700 --> 00:11:25,000 different speeds and able to pair to show that the heavy 200 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,700 blocks of solid snow. Could have landed on the hikers 201 00:11:28,700 --> 00:11:32,800 as they slept crushing their bones and causing injuries not 202 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,700 typically associated with Avalanches. 203 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:39,800 If this was the case, the para position, has that those who had 204 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:46,200 those, who, Those who had sustained less serious, blows 205 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,600 likely, drag their injured companions out of the tent in 206 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,300 the hopes of saving their lives. I'm going through this in the 207 00:11:52,700 --> 00:11:55,800 end up web pages just going completely spasmodic on me. 208 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,800 So if I pause here and there it's because I'm trying to catch 209 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,600 up with the text. It says Jim McQueen, a Geo 210 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,700 hazards expert at Durham university in England who wasn't 211 00:12:05,700 --> 00:12:07,700 involved in the study tells National Geographic that the 212 00:12:07,700 --> 00:12:12,500 slabs of snow would have had to be incredibly stiff and moving 213 00:12:12,500 --> 00:12:16,900 at a significant Speed to inflect, such violent injuries. 214 00:12:17,500 --> 00:12:19,500 Well, let's stop and think about, you know, if a gallon of 215 00:12:19,500 --> 00:12:22,800 water per gallon of water weighs about what is it? 216 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,000 Four pounds or 8 pounds? I mean it's a few pounds, right? 217 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,200 Well, if a gallon of water weighs that much and if you have 218 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:31,200 been swimming in a river, you know, the force of just, you get 219 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,000 into a couple of feet of water, two or three feet of water. 220 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,800 And, in a slow-moving, current can produce a tremendous amount 221 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,700 of force and actually become quite dangerous. 222 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,500 So it's not hard for me to imagine that small. 223 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,700 Block or slab of ice would be quite heavy, maybe hundreds of 224 00:12:46,700 --> 00:12:48,400 thousands or tens of thousands of pounds. 225 00:12:48,700 --> 00:12:52,500 And it wouldn't have to move that fast or that far in order 226 00:12:52,500 --> 00:12:54,800 for it to cut to cause a lot of injury. 227 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,000 It'd be like having a log roll over on a person. 228 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,100 This is speaking with New Scientist McClellan. 229 00:13:01,100 --> 00:13:04,400 As that the research doesn't explain why these people after 230 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,600 being hit by an avalanche rent off without their clothes on end 231 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,700 of the snow. Well, that's kind of silly. 232 00:13:09,700 --> 00:13:11,300 Now, we know this probably happened at night, they were 233 00:13:11,300 --> 00:13:14,700 sleeping, okay? Their clothes were probably wet, 234 00:13:14,700 --> 00:13:17,000 they took them off and they're sleeping there in that tent 235 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,800 pole. All in it together, probably in 236 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:24,600 the wrong underwear as my guess. So it's almost like it's like no 237 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,100 matter what the theory is no matter how much sense it makes 238 00:13:27,100 --> 00:13:29,200 somebody has to take on the role of deep bunker. 239 00:13:31,100 --> 00:13:33,600 They continues. If you're in that type of harsh 240 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,900 environment, it's suicide to leave shelter without your 241 00:13:35,900 --> 00:13:38,300 clothes on. Well, what if you're under 6 242 00:13:38,300 --> 00:13:41,100 feet of snow? And for people to do that, it 243 00:13:41,100 --> 00:13:42,700 must have been terrified by something. 244 00:13:44,700 --> 00:13:47,300 I assume that one of the most likely things is that one of 245 00:13:47,300 --> 00:13:50,800 them went crazy for some reason. I can't understand why all say 246 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,200 would have behaved and that way unless they were trying to flee 247 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:58,000 from someone who's been tracking them, why see right now? 248 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,700 This argument to me is made a couple of False assumptions. 249 00:14:01,500 --> 00:14:03,800 They assume some are crazy. Now, come on. 250 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:05,700 How often does someone just randomly? 251 00:14:05,700 --> 00:14:07,900 Go crazy, on camping, trip? I know. 252 00:14:07,900 --> 00:14:09,400 It probably happens. I know there are people out 253 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,100 there with mental health issues that maybe they aren't treated, 254 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,800 but let's be honest, these were people that knew each other, 255 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,800 there were camping together. They were doing extreme. 256 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,700 Cold weather camping. Doesn't seem like the likelihood 257 00:14:21,700 --> 00:14:23,800 here. Is that one of the people went 258 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,700 crazy and had a psychotic episode and decided to kill the 259 00:14:26,700 --> 00:14:29,100 other eight people. That just seems pretty stupid to 260 00:14:29,100 --> 00:14:32,400 me. And I really find it a little 261 00:14:32,900 --> 00:14:37,000 concerning this guy, but want to just completely discount all of 262 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,800 the work that these folks have gone into to create this 263 00:14:42,100 --> 00:14:44,700 possible theory of the Avalanche, which does make 264 00:14:44,700 --> 00:14:47,200 perfect sense to me and just say, well, they were running 265 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,300 from somebody, but we know that the accident happened at night, 266 00:14:50,300 --> 00:14:53,600 the incident happened at night because they'd already dug this 267 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:57,100 hole. Into the snow on the side of 268 00:14:57,108 --> 00:15:00,500 this hill, and put their tent there for whatever reason, 269 00:15:00,500 --> 00:15:03,700 that's how they decide to do it. So, they put themselves into 270 00:15:03,700 --> 00:15:06,100 brick into a precarious situation to begin with. 271 00:15:06,900 --> 00:15:09,000 Now, they talk about how they laid their skis. 272 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,000 They were cross-country, skiing, they later, skis down, and then 273 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,900 later blankets, whatever top of them, and then, and then lay 274 00:15:14,900 --> 00:15:17,600 down and piled up like it's more blankets on top of them. 275 00:15:18,100 --> 00:15:20,000 It makes sense that they weren't, they weren't wearing 276 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:24,200 the same Snow-covered clothes, they weren't sleeping in those 277 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:25,100 clothes. They were sleeping. 278 00:15:25,100 --> 00:15:28,500 And some kind of, like I said, night clothes long underwear, 279 00:15:28,500 --> 00:15:32,200 thermals whatever. So when this incident happened, 280 00:15:32,500 --> 00:15:35,700 suddenly they went from being this nice cozy tent to being 281 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:40,900 just inundated with snow or maybe, maybe you begin to rumble 282 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,500 and they felt, they felt like their Adventure starting and 283 00:15:44,500 --> 00:15:47,500 they were trying to get out of the Avalanche and on top of the 284 00:15:47,500 --> 00:15:50,000 snow up out of this hole that they were in. 285 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:54,000 Basically, it looks like they'd cut a hole in the snow and Pitch 286 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,700 their tent down in there but you seem like a very unsafe thing to 287 00:15:56,700 --> 00:15:59,200 do especially on the side of the Hill. 288 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,500 You know sometimes people think that they know more than they 289 00:16:03,500 --> 00:16:06,600 know. And remember this is Soviet 290 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:10,700 Union post World War Two and maybe they should have taken 291 00:16:10,700 --> 00:16:13,200 some lessons from the locals about how they went camping. 292 00:16:13,500 --> 00:16:16,100 There were local indigenous people in that area to First the 293 00:16:16,100 --> 00:16:19,400 Russians, the Russians kind of try to throw a little shade on 294 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,600 these folks like hey, maybe They were the ones that committed 295 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,000 this heinous murder against these Caucasian folks because 296 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:29,400 the indigenous people, I think we're more more likely related 297 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:33,800 to save Asiatic folks or more Eskimo or Native American 298 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,000 however you want to put it here again though. 299 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,300 It seems like we still have this tendency to want to debunk 300 00:16:40,300 --> 00:16:44,100 something. That a theory that actually in 301 00:16:44,100 --> 00:16:47,200 my mind conforms closer to the scientific method than anything, 302 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,700 we've come across so far. Now it says, Guam on the other 303 00:16:49,700 --> 00:16:53,100 hand views the situation where the differently, as he tells 304 00:16:53,100 --> 00:16:56,500 life science, when the hikers decided to go to the force, they 305 00:16:56,500 --> 00:16:58,400 took care of their injured friends. 306 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,000 No one was left behind. I think it, I think it is a 307 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,500 great story of courage and friendship and the face of a 308 00:17:05,500 --> 00:17:10,500 brutal force of nature. So, what happened was, Whatever 309 00:17:10,500 --> 00:17:15,800 happened, whether this was an avalanche and I think it 310 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:20,200 certainly was, if you go if you go to the webpage, UFO 311 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,000 morning.com and Link onto this article. 312 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:26,000 I have the link posted there and it has a very detailed diagram 313 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,600 and it shows how they came along. 314 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,000 And, for whatever to me, it's inexplicable, they decided, hey, 315 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,600 this is we're going to Camp our tent. 316 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:39,300 So they literally just carved this L-shaped wedge into the 317 00:17:39,300 --> 00:17:43,100 side of He'll so you have you have this tent looks like it's 318 00:17:43,108 --> 00:17:46,900 probably six seven foot tall and on the one side. 319 00:17:46,900 --> 00:17:51,200 So you're looking at it on the slope side, slopes down to it. 320 00:17:51,300 --> 00:17:56,300 Here's this big layer of snow and ice and you've just cut a 321 00:17:56,308 --> 00:17:58,600 wall into it. And now, here's a nice smooth 322 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,400 place to build my tent. What did they do? 323 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:06,700 They cut a hole. In that in that potential 324 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:10,300 Avalanche Zone. And what that's done is it has 325 00:18:10,300 --> 00:18:13,700 literally taken. It's like, it's like, you had an 326 00:18:13,700 --> 00:18:17,500 arch and you took out one of the Key Stone pieces. 327 00:18:17,500 --> 00:18:18,900 Well, the arch is going to collapse. 328 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,200 Well, this didn't collapse immediately because there are 329 00:18:22,300 --> 00:18:25,200 certain amount of tension from the ice itself had obviously 330 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:26,800 held it together. But it's pretty clear to me. 331 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:31,100 They cut this, they cut this wood shape into the side of the 332 00:18:31,100 --> 00:18:32,700 Hill. Okay, so now we have this big 333 00:18:32,700 --> 00:18:36,400 pile of snow. That's uphill from us and we 334 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,400 have our tent here and what's going to happen, you've taken 335 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:43,500 away, the support structure. So, over the course of about 9 336 00:18:43,500 --> 00:18:48,300 hours, it looks like with more snow and wind moving in. 337 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:53,600 Eventually this big giant probably, I mean, a multi 338 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:57,100 multi-ton. Slab of ice, just slides, right 339 00:18:57,100 --> 00:19:00,600 down the Hillside and what's in its way. 340 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,600 Well, your tents and it's away the tent that you just cut into 341 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,900 the side of this giant slab of ice. 342 00:19:06,300 --> 00:19:09,900 When you look at this, when you look at this diagram and they 343 00:19:09,900 --> 00:19:14,300 show what they did, To my mind. I'm thinking why in the world 344 00:19:14,308 --> 00:19:17,000 would you do this? I mean, this is just the dumbest 345 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,100 thing a person could ever do in my opinion because you put 346 00:19:20,100 --> 00:19:24,400 yourself in an avalanche Zone and like they said, maybe they 347 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,000 took a first look at it because of the way the snow had piled up 348 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,200 was a deceptive, they thought that they had plenty. 349 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,200 The slope was, was gradual enough that it wouldn't slide. 350 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:37,400 But when you get right down to it, the underlying Topography of 351 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,200 the ground was way past 30 degrees. 352 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:45,300 So this was an avalanche prone area, and when you cut a wedge 353 00:19:45,300 --> 00:19:50,500 into this big slab of ice, Well, it's going to do what it's going 354 00:19:50,500 --> 00:19:51,900 to do. It's going to slide downhill. 355 00:19:51,900 --> 00:19:54,900 That's the natural thing for this to do, and it took a little 356 00:19:54,900 --> 00:19:56,900 while. They cut this wedge in, they put 357 00:19:56,900 --> 00:19:59,500 their 10 in and over the course of about nine hours. 358 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,200 This thing just slit right over the top of them. 359 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:06,000 Probably what happened was that? It looks like there was snow and 360 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,900 ice on top. Looks like probably what 361 00:20:08,900 --> 00:20:11,000 happens. Some people were like right in 362 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,800 the Impact Zone. You know, you can have four or 363 00:20:12,808 --> 00:20:14,800 five people in one car and have a terrible car. 364 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,600 Wreck one person, might walk away. 365 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,500 Any other person might end up dead. 366 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,500 Might depend a bit that they had your seat belts on my depend 367 00:20:21,500 --> 00:20:25,300 upon, whether you're at the car might depend upon what kind of 368 00:20:25,300 --> 00:20:28,400 impact they received and seems like a couple of people who had 369 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:32,700 two really bad injuries with a broken bones, but this one poor 370 00:20:32,700 --> 00:20:34,300 soul, she had her eyes knockdown. 371 00:20:34,500 --> 00:20:36,700 Well, it sounds terrible, it sounds impossible, but let me 372 00:20:36,700 --> 00:20:38,700 tell you something. When people People sustained, 373 00:20:38,700 --> 00:20:40,600 high impact injuries, they fall off a building. 374 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,900 They get hit in a car accident. Those kinds of terrible things 375 00:20:43,900 --> 00:20:46,900 do happen. The human body does just seem to 376 00:20:46,900 --> 00:20:49,600 come apart and that's what seems to have happened here. 377 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,600 And then it looks like probably what happened then over the 378 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,000 course of the next few seconds or minutes. 379 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:58,500 Whatever the people that were maybe shielded by this first 380 00:20:58,500 --> 00:21:00,900 victims cut their way out of the tent. 381 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,500 They got their friends out of there, but their supplies, 382 00:21:04,500 --> 00:21:07,400 everything else had been buried in so much snow that they 383 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,800 weren't able. Able to get back and retrieve 384 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,000 the things they needed and they literally froze to death died. 385 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:21,200 This exposure before they were able to Recover enough enough 386 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:25,700 supplies to survive the climate and, you know, I think what I 387 00:21:25,708 --> 00:21:28,000 see when I look at this article did lot pass. 388 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,900 It says here at the end it says and they'll finish up, it says, 389 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,900 Jim McLean at Gio has expert at Durham University. 390 00:21:36,900 --> 00:21:39,600 England who wasn't involved, it's a tells metric of the slabs 391 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:43,400 of snow would have been incredibly stiff and moving at a 392 00:21:43,408 --> 00:21:47,500 significant speed to inflict such a response and then it goes 393 00:21:47,500 --> 00:21:55,100 on. He says, He talks about, they 394 00:21:55,100 --> 00:21:59,000 talks about how the people reacted. 395 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,400 Well, here's the thing, that people, what I see Happening 396 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:07,300 Here is I see a group of people from One environment, a group of 397 00:22:07,300 --> 00:22:11,100 people from what the time was a modern environment they're in 398 00:22:11,100 --> 00:22:17,200 the Soviet Union going into this really out back area, a very 399 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,400 Basically a place had been inhabited by indigenous people 400 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:26,900 for many, many years and trying to apply their techniques of 401 00:22:26,900 --> 00:22:31,300 survival. To a situation which would have 402 00:22:31,300 --> 00:22:33,700 been which would have been much better served. 403 00:22:33,700 --> 00:22:36,900 If they would have taken the time to examine how the people 404 00:22:36,900 --> 00:22:40,100 that live there, survived that situation. 405 00:22:40,100 --> 00:22:42,500 I don't think you would have saw this indigenous people ever 406 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:50,100 cutting a wedge into the side of an avalanche prone pile of snow 407 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:54,000 and then basically pitching their tent right there in front 408 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,000 of that pile of snow. I also see when I see from this 409 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:01,200 is the description of the of the really bad injuries and what 410 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,400 people find when they got there and their expectations. 411 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,500 Played a lot into what they thought might have happened the 412 00:23:07,500 --> 00:23:10,400 cause and effect. But when we go back and we look 413 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,700 at this thing and we take and we subjected to the scientific 414 00:23:13,700 --> 00:23:16,700 method and we really apply the math to it. 415 00:23:17,700 --> 00:23:21,500 And you look at the video here and it's really it's dramatic. 416 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,300 It's they got to fit it, goes along with this and it's a 417 00:23:24,308 --> 00:23:27,400 little disturbing but it shows you exactly. 418 00:23:28,300 --> 00:23:30,000 How these people could have sustained, these kinds of 419 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,300 injuries, and you have to ask yourself. 420 00:23:32,300 --> 00:23:36,600 My, why would you put yourself in that, and that sort of a 421 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,000 situation where you were just in such a present danger? 422 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:43,700 I mean, basically, they just found a big chunk of ice. 423 00:23:43,700 --> 00:23:47,300 That was ready to fall down. They made it even more unstable 424 00:23:47,300 --> 00:23:48,500 by cutting a hole in the side of it. 425 00:23:48,500 --> 00:23:50,800 And then pitching their true pitching, a tent in front of it. 426 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,700 It's like it's like parking the truck on the side of a hill. 427 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:59,300 Okay, releasing the parking brake and then camping behind it 428 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,600 and waiting for all the air to go out of the brakes so that the 429 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,600 truck can roll back and roll the top of you. 430 00:24:04,700 --> 00:24:07,200 That's basically what happens basically what happened here? 431 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:14,000 They had they camped. On a hillside in the path. 432 00:24:15,100 --> 00:24:19,700 Of this big sheet of ice which was effectively the size of and 433 00:24:19,700 --> 00:24:25,900 the weight of multiples loaded semi trucks and then they cut a 434 00:24:25,900 --> 00:24:29,500 wall through that ice and made a little spot for their 10th. 435 00:24:29,900 --> 00:24:33,700 In other words, it would be to say, you've got multiple semi 436 00:24:33,700 --> 00:24:37,000 trucks parked on a hillside. So you decide to go in and 437 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:41,100 release the parking brakes. I don't chock the wheels and 438 00:24:41,100 --> 00:24:44,800 then just leave those trucks are parked on a hillside knowing 439 00:24:44,900 --> 00:24:48,900 that when the error finally leaves a brake system, whatever 440 00:24:49,100 --> 00:24:51,100 they're going to their brakes are going to fail and are going 441 00:24:51,100 --> 00:24:54,400 to slide down the hill. That's kind of what they did. 442 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:59,500 They put themselves in a in a situation where the only thing 443 00:24:59,500 --> 00:25:01,900 that could have happened did happen. 444 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:08,700 And this is proven to me, By the scientific research, these guys 445 00:25:08,700 --> 00:25:11,100 did. And it just what I like about it 446 00:25:11,100 --> 00:25:14,200 is, you know, it has a limit. Yes, it would have been, maybe 447 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,000 more interesting. If we could approve that there 448 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,200 were Bigfoot tracks around, or there was some sort of a UFO 449 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,700 connection, but what the authors of this paper have done, is they 450 00:25:23,700 --> 00:25:27,000 have just gone through and they've just, they've just gone 451 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,600 through and just a basic math. They did the work and they drew 452 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:37,000 the diagrams, and they recreated the situation that Dated the 453 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,200 death of those people so we can see, we can look at that tent 454 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:41,400 right there on the side of that hill. 455 00:25:41,500 --> 00:25:46,000 We can see that big massive ice sheet as just before it's sliced 456 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,700 on top of them and then they show us what that would do to a 457 00:25:48,708 --> 00:25:51,200 human body. That kind of way at that speed 458 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,600 and why some people would have died and some people would have 459 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,700 survived. And then the effect of that was, 460 00:25:56,700 --> 00:26:00,000 they weren't able to recover the warm clothes, well, who's and 461 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,600 people say well, why were they naked? 462 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,400 Well, why would you sleep in a tent with wet clothes on? 463 00:26:04,500 --> 00:26:08,000 You wouldn't You have your night clothes on which they did their 464 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,500 underwear. And so when this Avalanche 465 00:26:10,500 --> 00:26:14,700 happened, they escaped the tent, they drugged their drug, their 466 00:26:14,700 --> 00:26:18,100 wounded and dead comrades to safety, but they didn't have 467 00:26:18,100 --> 00:26:21,000 time, they only knew it had very few minutes left. 468 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,600 They didn't have time to get back in there and get their own 469 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,100 clothes and get warm clothes on. Try to get a fire started very 470 00:26:27,100 --> 00:26:30,600 sad and tragic situation clear back from 1959. 471 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,900 But if really excellent job or reconstructing, the scene of 472 00:26:33,900 --> 00:26:37,400 what happened, Definitely would take a chance to go. 473 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:38,800 Look at this. At the website. 474 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,700 You have form.com, a go on the link and and read the article. 475 00:26:42,700 --> 00:26:46,600 It's really, it's really interesting until next time, 476 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,800 this is UFO warning over and out. 477 00:26:36,100 --> 00:26:37,400 Definitely would take a chance to go. 478 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:38,800 Look at this. At the website. 479 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,700 You have form.com, a go on the link and and read the article. 480 00:26:42,700 --> 00:26:46,600 It's really, it's really interesting until next time, 481 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,800 this is UFO warning over and out.