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Hello and welcome to the program
UFO morning and this episode, 

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we're looking at the origins of 
IOS app, that's correct. 

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The origins of ossipon that 
acronym is a, aw sap. 

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Is stands for advanced Aerospace
weapons system applications 

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program, which this program was 
the Genesis for the notion of a 

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tip. 
But a question is whether a tip 

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was even a Actual program or 
merely the nickname given to it 

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by Harry Reid, and a figment of 
Louis elizondo's imagination, 

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but a sip was the one that was 
originally funded back in 2008 

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and this is somehow morphed into
this notion of a tip or Advanced

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Aerospace threat, identification
program. 

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Now that whole situation gave 
birth to a bunch of UFO 

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phenomenon celebrities like Blue
wheels on do Christopher melon 

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how put others that came out of 
this program, who are now making

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the rounds at these UFO 
conferences as the as the 

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Arbiters of Truth telling us. 
You know, what's going on? 

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We have Tom DeLonge setting up 
there telling us that he's seen 

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things that nobody else has, you
know, and the UFO Community 

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scene and just depend upon him 
to tell us what to do next. 

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I find that kind of offensive 
myself normally when it comes to

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UFO. 
Whoa, reports and sightings in 

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that. 
I'd like to take at open mind 

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and usually Island toward being 
a Believer, more than a 

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non-believer. 
And pretty much any UFO 

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encounter that's reported to me 
and some people say, you know, 

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I'm not critical enough and this
situation, I find myself leaning

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toward the bunker. 
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debunker side. 
I would just say I find myself 

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being more critical, more prone,
not to believe what we're being 

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told. 
It almost seems like a lot of 

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these stories about a tip have 
been incubated in the Deep 

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State. 
The The videos released 

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clandestinely through the 
through unknown players in 

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depending on parking lot. 
Those videos, basically 

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monetized and and exploited by 
organizations, like Academy to 

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the Stars. 
So, the whole thing seems 

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convoluted, it seems like I see 
a lot of deception. 

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I see a lot of centralization of
the knowledge where things 

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aren't being open source is the 
exact opposite of Of open 

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sourcing given all that. 
I think it's important that we 

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take a look at where this whole 
story began at and what's and 

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what the truth actually is and 
that really hasn't been done 

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enough. 
There's been some news recently,

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I think, on a podcast where 
people were talking about Louis 

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Elizondo and his family history,
you could be getting into a gray

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area there, where your you're 
getting close to doxing 

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somebody, I don't know. 
It, it brought up a lot. 

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Of, I think kind of - in 
fighting, but at the same time, 

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I think it's okay to examine the
statements people make when they

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make themselves a public figure 
and they engage in a commercial 

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activity surrounding, their 
story. 

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I think it's okay to go ahead 
and examine that story and 

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decide if we believe it or we 
don't believe it, what we 

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believe parts of it but not 
other parts and so without being

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too critical. 
Too hard on you two players. 

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I think it's important to take a
look at some of these facts and 

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there's no way you can cover 
this almond podcast. 

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So I just I found this article 
here from metabolic metabolic 

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dot-org typically you know I'm 
not really excited about citing 

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stuff from titles with a bunk in
the title but if we're ever 

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going to be taken seriously, if 
we're ever going to convince the

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public to have an open mind 
toward UFO as I think we Have to

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do critical thinking ourselves 
first. 

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Now, this article says, it's by 
NorCal Dave, senior member. 

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The title says, the origins of a
swap. 

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That's a aw sap. 
Just like we just said, The 

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dates, June 21st 2022, it says, 
where did the aaaw sap Files 

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come from? 
And where did a swap originated?

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And then he says, for the 
answer, I broke down and paid 

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the $9.98 for the Kindle version
of skinwalkers at the Pentagon 

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by dr. 
James look at C column, Kellner 

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and George Knapp. 
I think I would have subtitled 

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it how some dead animals brought
us, the Tic-Tac and Squadron and

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squandered, 22 million dollars 
of taxpayer money. 

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So you can see this individual 
was not really happy about what 

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he found and this is a problem. 
I think that when you have these

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UFO stories are percolated up 
out of the deep State and are 

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promoted by Deep State actors 
people who have been lifelong 

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employees at the Pentagon or 
intelligence agencies and they 

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retire and they and then 
monetize their job title. 

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Basically by presenting 
themselves as experts at UF. 

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Do conferences and then tell 
stories that are convoluted and 

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sometimes parts of them can't be
proven or sometimes revert Bible

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a false when that happens and 
there's so much smoke. 

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The the Skeptics are armed. 
Then they can come out and say 

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well it's all false. 
It's all true. 

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It's all just a big joke. 
And that's not helpful to 

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anybody. 
Anyway goes on and says it's a 

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long post and I'm going to meet 
I'm going to need a g&t after 

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this and might get moved to 
ramble blah blah blah and then 

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he says so then he goes on to 
article he says here's a quick 

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version for those in a hurry. 
It begins by saying what one 

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gets is the longtime UFO 
paranormal journalist and Coast 

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to Coast AM regular George Knapp
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and a nutshell. 
He hyped up some dubious 

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accounts of strange happenings 
and cattle mutilations on the 

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Sherman Ranch and Utah to the 
point that UFO paranormal, 

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enthusiasts millionaire, Robert 
Bigelow bought in now, you know,

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I'm not sure about that because 
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I think shows that he has a long
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stuff. 
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convinced by George Knapp to 
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And as that video points out 
that I've linked to on buy me a 

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coffee, Robert Bigelow was a 
long time Cryptid. 

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I contributor to Harry Reid a 
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from what Nevada and it looks 
like Bigelow along with The 

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original person in charge of a 
such a sap were the ones that 

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really kind of got together with
read sort of just talk this over

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and had this idea to investigate
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It seems like Harry Reid 
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Had an interest in the 
Paranormal. 

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Robert Bigelow had an interest 
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They found a few other experts 
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interest in paranormal. 
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government probably was not 
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that, straight up. 
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the one that gave twenty two 
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So that these guys could go out 
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ghost, it looks like and as its 
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what really happened was they 
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or less disguise that and 
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We're checking out these strange
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the Russians of the Chinese, 
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Now that would be a lot easier 
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A research then to get funding 
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paranormal anomaly. 
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Now it goes on and says Bigelow 
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National Institute for Discovery
Science, knids headed by Colm 

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Kelleher to investigate what 
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Skinwalker Ranch for eight years
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Ned's before this comes up in a 
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stuff. 
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know that the players behind the
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they might have their own 
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I'm not trying to disparage, 
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that. 
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it starts at afterwards, Kilmer 
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Dia employee James, what? 
Catc read the book travel to the

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ranch where he met Bigelow and 
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help of Nevada. 
Senator Reid whom had been 

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introduced to Bigelow by nap 
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Before, look at see crafted, a 
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UFOs strange stuff and 
Skinwalker Ranch all under the 

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guise of future Aerospace 
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Now, once again, if you watch 
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clip there that we're look at 
she's being interviewed and 

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basically says, we named this 
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that people wouldn't freak out 
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researching the Paranormal and 
if we lose our funding, Now, as 

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I said, Robert Bigelow seems 
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relationship with Harry Reid as 
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That that's also gone into that.
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Harry Reid. 
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Written. 
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in charge of it Bigelow's. 
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bidder and was awarded the 
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in charge of funneling 22 Main 
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which was run by Kellner at 
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used to send Kellner back to 
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taxpayer dollars. 
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a major player here because he's
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he runs. 
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A second company is BAS company 
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Basically funnel money into the 
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Now you can make up your own 
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unethical but it looks like it's
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You know, legally it says many 
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paranormal researchers. 
Such as how put off and kit 

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green, got a little taste as a 
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Provide, what could become the 
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Be aass also rinse, mufon 
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And may have used some of their 
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present a little bit of a 
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because it seems like, you know,
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government money. 
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spreading it around a little 
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How put off, he's an interesting
guy and kit grain will talk 

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about them at maybe another 
podcast, but you can really 

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begin to see. 
This nuclear suppliers are 

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involved in this thing, right 
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ski and I remember. 
He was one that was the first 

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director of this office app, was
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person ever in control of Us 
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So that kind of rules out Louis 
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Remember us app. 
That was a funded program and as

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a point out into video that a 
tip was just a nickname for that

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program. 
It was a way for. 

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I think they explain later for 
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Kate was obviously going on 
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How Elizondo considers himself 
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know, the guy on this. 
I just don't get that. 

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It says there was no formal 880 
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And that's what they said in the
video that this this name, a tip

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that never actually existed as 
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Department, that's just a 
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was created solely. 
As a ruse to be used in a 

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letter, they got circulated at 
the dod as to hide a, aw sap. 

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Whether or not people like Chris
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the term. 
A tip to describe their unfunded

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and unofficial, UFO research is 
unclear. 

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It appears that the New York 
Times article of 2017, got ahold

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of the, a tip name and applied 
it to what was really a, aw sap 

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or IOS app once, and the public 
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accordingly. 
After funding dried up. 

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Look at see eventually retired. 
Hernandez before he now joined 

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Kellner and nap and writing a 
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So basically what they're saying
is the same thing that was set 

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in a video that will be Elizondo
while he may have been employed 

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by while he seems to have been 
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Defense had no official capacity
running a UFO research 

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Department. 
He says he did it in his 

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unofficial capacity. 
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I guess. 
What does that mean? 

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I look for you. 
Those are my spare time, that's 

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what they were saying. 
So this really changes the 

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narrative from that point when 
you have someone like elizondo's

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going around at these UFO 
conference is presenting himself

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as this expert. 
This former DOD employee who ran

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who actually was in charge of 
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that that presents him as an 
expert witness. 

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And he can make a lot of money 
doing these conferences and book

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signings or whatnot. 
Airing on the History Channel, 

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or Discovery or wherever that's 
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But we need to be clear about 
what department were you in 

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charge of if there was never an 
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a tip, then we should know that 
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AA. 

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Sapped, and then just tell us 
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We in business. 
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22 million dollars. 
Only 350,000 is accounted for it

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as it went to mufon and appears 
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training of field investigators 
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investigators. 
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who have cited these sayings or 
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who actually make the reports to
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I'm a little bit, I'm a little 
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involvement you know of move on 
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I guess I like I said, there's 
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There's nothing illegal about 
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It just seems weird to me in the
end. 

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Aaww sap produced, the 1500 
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along with mountains of reports 
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actually generated by be aass 
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aw sap or just called and 
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databases exactly if they're 
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Encounters. 
You know we do this on this 

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podcast, lots of people anybody 
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think there might be a small fee
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accounts but there's plenty of 
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as correlating these reports. 
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those that want to see what was 
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And then it says it Important 
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a few key ideas about where the 
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mutilated by unknown entities 
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up black triangular, aircraft 
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wool, seven-foot-tall wolf 
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in black suits and all the other
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elsewhere is prima facie that 
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is a giving fact, is it make the
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of these encounters. 
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the underlying phenomenon 
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picked up and cattle. 
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with scavengers. 
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otherworldly entities. 
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when they try to just I think 
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like this, they could have went 
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three or four phenomena and went
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mutilation, why? 
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Don't pick over them. 
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He's just read the book and he's
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scavengers. 
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mutilation the cattle 
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do obviously to me, the report 
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about cattle, mutilations that, 
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you know, accounts of wolf 
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eyewitness evidence of the 
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evidence to see, they're 
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say it cattle. 
Emulation, we have this actual 

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cattle, that's been dissected 
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should be 10 gallons of blood 
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there's not a single drop. 
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really, not really sorting 
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It's almost like here's 22 
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Just go out and throw the 
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That's not going to work and 
it's not going to convince 

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anybody about the the whole the 
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Activity. 
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not a piece. 
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Brian Dunning or somebody at the
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know this it's not it the book 
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a testimony of what they did 
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themselves. 
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this. 
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which is a little more important
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It says, 1995 wealthy hotelier 
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Bigelow founds. 
The National Institute of 

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Discovery Science known as Is 
knids with the purpose of 

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studying strange, things and 
anomalies. 

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was created in 1995 and part 
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the investigators who had 
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needs had two primary focal 
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studies more specifically, 
whether human consciousness, 

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survives death, and he still 
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A world-class science. 
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made up of academics writers. 
Former intelligence officials 

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trenches of UFO ology and other 
Frontier science. 

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1996, Mark the first time most 
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Doctor was was physicist, dr. 
Hal put off computer scientists 

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and longtime UFO investigator 
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Dr. Jacques Vallee, a former 
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Harrison Schmitt, dr. 
John Mack, at Harvard former US 

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Army intelligence officer, dr. 
Alexander and several other 

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notables journalist, George net.
Made a presentation to the board

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about the UFO files heat 
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former USSR. 
This is clear back in T5, I 

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think you can see that Bob 
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with a pair of normal. 
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Paranormal, I mean there's just 
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things you could be talking 
about the problem that I see 

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with this approach is like I 
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kitchen sink at it. 
Instead of taking, you know, one

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single subject, cattle 
mutilation, or orbs, or 

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whatever, you want to look at 
and looking intently, at that 

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thing, narrowing down that one 
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And then putting together some 
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Bigelow, purchased 1996, Bigelow
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Utah, because he heard a lot of 
strange things happen there 

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though, there is little evidence
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Storage Note, also the Next up 
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Of course, we've all heard about
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The History Channel's done a 
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interesting. 
But you can see we have this 

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very wealthy man who has this 
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Paranormal. 
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He's investigating Skinwalker 
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And you know, you could 
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it would, this is something that
could increase a lot of people. 

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Why not get some federal 
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I mean, we get Federal funding. 
For a lot of science research 

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projects that most people would 
probably be considered to be 

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complete nonsense. 
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that offensive that they got the
22 million dollars. 

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I mean there's a lot more money 
than that wasted on a lot. 

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Sillier things says in 1996. 
Nevada Senator Harry Reid, 

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attends, an AIDS advisory 
meeting and:, Kellner, becomes 

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part of the Nets permanent staff
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They now renamed Skinwalker 
Ranch. 

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So that's a little Sketchy, 
they've renamed the ranch to 

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seem a little spooky. 
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the, the Native American stories
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that's kind of like, name and at
the werewolf ranch or the 

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vampire Ranch. 
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And you can see here. 
Clear. 

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Back in 1996 we have this 
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Harry Reid and even George 
Knapp. 

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Now goes on to 2004 says knits 
shut. 

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It's down and releases. 
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About end the book for 
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So they put some money into it. 
They did some research, they 

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found some interesting stuff and
George Knapp wrote a book. 

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I think that probably made a lot
of money. 

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It says in 2007, what cat C is 
employed at the Department of 

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Defense defense intelligence 
agency Dia defense warning 

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office dwa as a rocket scientist
specializing in missiles. 

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In 2007, he reads hunt for the 
skinwalker isn't rigged. 

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So you have this high IQ 
individual, no doubt, he's a, 

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he's a, he's a rocket scientist.
He's employed by the Department 

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of Defense and this is back in 
2007. 

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He's raiding Skinwalker Ranch. 
He has an Android, an interest 

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in the Paranormal, it says in 
2007. 

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Dr. James T, like a ski was an 
intelligence officer serving in 

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the defense intelligence agency 
defense, warning office. 

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He served a team Leader for 
writing the he served, he served

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as team leader for writing the 
annual missile defense, threat 

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environment series, the secret 
level threat documents used by 

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missile defense. 
MBA course something that we're 

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all interested in because on 
says in 2007 will classic you 

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uses official letterhead from 
his office to write a letter to 

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Bigelow asking to visit 
Skinwalker Ranch while at the 

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ranch. 
He claims to see a tubular bell 

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like object and the Section of 
the office, / dwelling units. 

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No one else in the room sees the
object. 

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This is where we get into a 
little bit of sketchy Zone, he's

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using letterhead from his 
Pentagon office. 

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You know, that implies that this
is official doesn't look like it

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actually was official. 
So these are the sort of things 

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that bothered me a little bit. 
Especially not saying look at 

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ski, but especially when some of
these fellows at do this sort of

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thing. 
Go on 10, 12, 15, 20 years 

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later, To become renowned 
Personalities in the UFO 

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community and parlay, their 
formal employment, with the 

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Department of Defense into a 
very lucrative new job. 

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Now, it says, after some 
internal discussion with his 

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colleagues and superiors at DIA,
McCaskey decided to take the 

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bull by the horns on June 19, 
2002 2007, he wrote that 

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bombshell letter on official 
Dia, a letter hedge robber. 

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T, Bigelow asking to visit the 
is you Our Ranch for the purpose

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of developing a strategy on how 
my office D wo can characterize 

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the Potential Threat aspects of 
the phenomena encountered. 

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In your research off efforts, 
that could be considered a 

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stretch. 
How do the things happening at 

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Skinwalker, Ranch threaten, the 
National Security of the United 

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States. 
In 2008 says, look at ski 

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specifically writes, the bid 
document for a 8sw AP and a way 

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that a successful bid can be 
administrated by his Department.

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The request for proposal is also
left deliberately vague 

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mentioning mostly future 
Advanced Aerospace, theories and

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Concepts. 
This is what they get into in 

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the video that, you know, they 
report that he basically 

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admitted to writing this thing 
to look like they were 

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investigating threats to United 
States airspace. 

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Space when in fact they were 
mostly focused on ghosts and 

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werewolves and skinwalkers. 
So it's kind of like, you know 

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this stuff's interesting is fun 
to investigate. 

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Let's take a look at this but we
can't get funding for it. 

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So let's just go ahead and make 
this seem like it's a national 

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security threat. 
Like I said, I'm not saying that

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that's illegal. 
I'm just saying. 

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It seems a little sketchy to me,
my opinion. 

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The 2000 says 2008 their 
proposal for a, aw sap said, 

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nothing about UFOs. 
You APS or other phenomena 

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though. 
A cat's he says that was what it

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was about, but then said, it was
also about the Paranormal goes 

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on again. 
In 2008, Bigelow forms, Bigelow,

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Advanced Aerospace services. 
This is bass be aass to fulfill 

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the AAW. 
Sap contract comb calendar is 

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hired to run Bass from offices 
in Las Vegas and Skinwalker 

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00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,700
Ranch. 
You know you can say it has the 

453
00:27:46,700 --> 00:27:50,700
appearance of a very rich 
individual who has an intense 

454
00:27:50,900 --> 00:27:54,100
Interest in the Paranormal 
forming a company for the sole 

455
00:27:54,100 --> 00:27:57,700
purpose of having the government
fund his hobby. 

456
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,000
That's what it looks like to a 
lot of people outside. 

457
00:28:00,100 --> 00:28:03,200
I'm not saying that I'm just 
saying that can be the 

458
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,500
appearance to some people. 
It says kelleners first hired, 

459
00:28:06,500 --> 00:28:11,400
2008 Keller's first hired for 
bass as a formal is a former 

460
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,900
Naval aviator. 
Douglas Kurth, who informs 

461
00:28:14,900 --> 00:28:18,600
Kellner about the Nimitz Tic Tac
inner event. 

462
00:28:18,700 --> 00:28:22,600
That's something we've all heard
about speak of I'm very, it's 

463
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,600
become very famous and that's 
important to what happens later 

464
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,400
on. 
It says, look tennis Lieutenant 

465
00:28:27,500 --> 00:28:32,600
Colonel Douglas Kurth presented 
himself to, for interview at Big

466
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,700
low corporate headquarters 
Kurth, had an impressive resume,

467
00:28:36,700 --> 00:28:41,100
he was quite spoken, but exuded 
professionalism and efficiency, 

468
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,600
within 10 minutes of the 
beginning of the interview, 

469
00:28:43,900 --> 00:28:48,100
Keller knew he had basses killer
knew, he had basses second 

470
00:28:48,100 --> 00:28:50,700
higher toward the end of the 
interview Kurth. 

471
00:28:50,900 --> 00:28:54,000
Dropped a bombshell, he 
explained that his previous 

472
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,000
career. 
He had seen the commanding 

473
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,400
officer of the Red Devils on 
Marine Corps fa-18 C. 

474
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,000
Squadron that was part of the 
USS strike group Nimitz, 

475
00:29:03,300 --> 00:29:06,900
Southwest of San Diego, in 
November and December of 2004 

476
00:29:07,100 --> 00:29:09,600
Kurth, went on to describe in 
detail. 

477
00:29:09,900 --> 00:29:12,900
His participation in what has 
now become known as a Tic Tac 

478
00:29:12,900 --> 00:29:18,300
event, arguably in 2021, the 
most famous, UAP case in the 

479
00:29:18,300 --> 00:29:20,900
world. 
You can see right there just The

480
00:29:20,900 --> 00:29:25,500
beginnings of how this whole 
thing was revealed, how the 

481
00:29:25,500 --> 00:29:28,900
information was disseminated, 
and how that information was 

482
00:29:28,900 --> 00:29:33,700
eventually a, my opinion, 
monetized were, then told 

483
00:29:33,900 --> 00:29:37,400
Kellner knew that this event 
during which United States Navy 

484
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,400
Commander. 
David favor, had now famously 

485
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,900
seen an Engaged with the 
unidentified object that later 

486
00:29:43,900 --> 00:29:46,700
became known as Tic. 
Tac could be an important case 

487
00:29:46,700 --> 00:29:50,700
to investigate for the fledgling
baa SS. 

488
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:56,000
Action as a part of the AAW, sap
contract Kerr throat up, his 

489
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,500
recollection of the Tic Tac case
and even produced, a 

490
00:29:58,500 --> 00:30:01,700
comprehensive list of 
eyewitnesses to contact which 

491
00:30:01,700 --> 00:30:05,600
calendar submitted to gem. 
Look at ski at DIA McCaskey in 

492
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:10,200
turn brought his friend. 
Jonathan Axelrod on the case and

493
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,100
within months Axelrod and his 
team had comprehensively 

494
00:30:14,100 --> 00:30:18,100
interviewed and obtained 
detailed testimony from one from

495
00:30:18,100 --> 00:30:21,800
more than a dozen Pilots radar. 
Operators and other Witnesses 

496
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,700
from the USS, Nimitz USS 
Princeton and other sources. 

497
00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:28,400
That's great. 
They got all this information 

498
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,900
and that they had documented, 
but the problem I have is the 

499
00:30:31,900 --> 00:30:36,200
chain of custody with that 
information and the monetization

500
00:30:36,300 --> 00:30:39,900
of that information. 
I just think it would be so much

501
00:30:39,900 --> 00:30:43,300
better to have all this stuff 
displayed on a publicly 

502
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,800
available web site where we 
could crowdsource the truth 

503
00:30:47,900 --> 00:30:53,600
about UFOs as opposed to having 
To wait around to be handed out 

504
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,900
the truth. 
Piecemeal by certain insiders. 

505
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,200
Now I'm going to finish up here 
because this is a long article 

506
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,200
but it goes on and says 2008 to 
2010 question, mark bass 

507
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,700
contracts with people like how 
put off to create, what would 

508
00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:14,100
become the Dr. Dir files that 
have been released, you know, 

509
00:31:14,100 --> 00:31:19,800
how put up as another celebrity 
in this in this circle long 

510
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,700
time. 
Insider Her longtime employee. 

511
00:31:22,700 --> 00:31:24,900
Some people might even say, deep
stator. 

512
00:31:25,100 --> 00:31:27,500
I'm not saying that in a 
disparaging way, but these 

513
00:31:27,500 --> 00:31:32,000
people obviously are connected 
at a very high level socially, 

514
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,400
they're connected with very 
intelligent scientist. 

515
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,000
I'm not saying much, these guys 
are super bright as far as I can

516
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,000
see, and they're connected with 
big money Players, like Bob 

517
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,800
Bigelow, and they're connected 
with very powerful political 

518
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:51,300
people like the late Harry Reid.
So I think that does Deserves 

519
00:31:51,300 --> 00:31:54,800
some examination. 
Because on assist 2009, people 

520
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,900
like Axelrod had visited 
Skinwalker Ranch scene, where 

521
00:31:57,900 --> 00:32:01,200
stuff and are experiencing the, 
after effects, of whatever 

522
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,700
happens. 
There are following one home, 

523
00:32:03,700 --> 00:32:07,100
like a contagion, including 
bipedal wolves. 

524
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,600
And we've heard about that these
people having what they call 

525
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,200
hitchhikers, a hitchhiker 
effect, they go to these places,

526
00:32:13,500 --> 00:32:16,700
they witness this paranormal 
Behavior often times. 

527
00:32:16,700 --> 00:32:18,800
It might seem like it has a very
evil bent. 

528
00:32:19,100 --> 00:32:21,400
And then when they go home, 
they're still It's almost like a

529
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:27,800
haunting where they are harassed
by these entities, however, you 

530
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:32,700
want to call him. 
It says Neither Axelrod or 

531
00:32:32,700 --> 00:32:35,500
Wilson would make out anything 
definitive than in the Gloom. 

532
00:32:35,500 --> 00:32:39,600
But as if in psychological 
agreement, with what Cottage in 

533
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,400
was seeing, they instinctively 
acknowledge that the source of 

534
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,800
Their Fear was 50 yards further 
down the track and at that 

535
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,000
point, all three felt close to 
their Breaking Point. 

536
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,300
Each one, convinced that 
continuing toward the dark oval 

537
00:32:50,300 --> 00:32:53,500
shape would lead to certain 
death are talking about, you 

538
00:32:53,500 --> 00:32:57,400
know, saying these things like 
bipedal wolves, or skinwalkers, 

539
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,200
whatever, you know, you're 
getting into some high strange, 

540
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,000
that's not the source of the 
Taxpayers will really want to 

541
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,300
fund and Dennis's 2009 at a 
dinner. 

542
00:33:07,300 --> 00:33:11,400
In d.c. was the first, we hear 
about Louis Elizondo Louise, a 

543
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,300
big player in this case further 
down the dinner table set. 

544
00:33:14,300 --> 00:33:16,200
Louis Elizondo, it says, this is
an exhibit. 

545
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:17,500
This is an excerpt from the 
book. 

546
00:33:17,500 --> 00:33:21,200
Of course, who worked 
collaboratively with Axelrod and

547
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:26,900
was at the office of the under 
secretary of defense for USDA. 

548
00:33:26,900 --> 00:33:33,300
So that place is Elizondo at the
dod as As an employee of this 

549
00:33:33,300 --> 00:33:38,400
USD, I Elizondo looked Dapper 
with Jack Black, Jack jet, black

550
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,300
hair, and was considered a 
brilliant special agent and 

551
00:33:42,300 --> 00:33:45,400
analyst with a lot of expertise 
on Counter Intelligence 

552
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,800
investigations. 
Little did anyone know anyone at

553
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,600
the dinner table, realize that 
nine years, early line years 

554
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,000
later, Louis Elizondo, would 
become a media star and a 

555
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,700
household name and Global. 
UAP investigations. 

556
00:33:59,700 --> 00:34:02,800
Is he enjoyed his steak tartare?
Our Elizondo. 

557
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,500
Regaled those around him with 
some War Stories, including one 

558
00:34:06,500 --> 00:34:10,800
hair-raising exploit about how 
his Advanced intuition and 

559
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,800
remote viewing capabilities had 
saved his life and the life of 

560
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,900
his men while a covert Mission 
covert combat Mission and 

561
00:34:18,900 --> 00:34:21,900
war-torn Afghanistan. 
Kind of gives you some insight 

562
00:34:21,900 --> 00:34:24,900
into personality a blueberry 
Elizondo, bigger-than-life 

563
00:34:24,900 --> 00:34:27,800
claims you can remote view 
claims, he saved the life of him

564
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,199
and his men while leading a 
combat mission in Afghanistan. 

565
00:34:31,300 --> 00:34:35,199
Can just take that for what it's
worth and 2009, Senator Reid 

566
00:34:35,300 --> 00:34:39,900
featuring us apps, incredible 
success, Senator Reid fearing 

567
00:34:39,900 --> 00:34:42,600
that office apps incredible 
success would lead to it being 

568
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:48,699
exposed at the dod and the, and 
the prospect that the Russians 

569
00:34:48,699 --> 00:34:50,300
and Chinese will already 
exploiting. 

570
00:34:50,300 --> 00:34:52,600
You a p-tech, writes, a letter 
to deputy. 

571
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,100
Secretary of defense, we're in a
tip is first. 

572
00:34:56,100 --> 00:35:00,500
Use, also note the Assumption on
the book, The Assumption in the 

573
00:35:00,500 --> 00:35:04,100
book, that the Russians and or 
Chinese already are working on 

574
00:35:04,100 --> 00:35:08,200
uh, p-tech how, or where they 
got, it is not mentioned. 

575
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,900
So here, we see the birth of a 
tip, simply put out there by the

576
00:35:12,900 --> 00:35:16,500
late, Senator Harry Reid, 
because he's trying to get more 

577
00:35:16,500 --> 00:35:20,000
funding past the original 22 
Main that it got its kind of 

578
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,000
like, you soft selling it. 
He knows no one's going to fund 

579
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:28,000
research on paranormal stuff so 
he has to re couch. 

580
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,500
This whole thing is if they're 
funding research. 

581
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,700
To Aid with national security 
goes on and says, 2009 bass. 

582
00:35:36,700 --> 00:35:39,600
Paid move on for access to their
database talks. 

583
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,300
A little bit about that and I 
want to get down here to 2010. 

584
00:35:43,300 --> 00:35:46,100
It says, bass constructs, 
migration routes for bipedal, 

585
00:35:46,100 --> 00:35:49,000
Dog Night creatures, along with 
her occupying glowing orb, so 

586
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,400
you can kind of see. 
The funding is getting pretty 

587
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:56,000
crazy here, really getting to 
some strange paranormal stuff, 

588
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,900
so interesting, but it's not 
really tied to actual phenomena 

589
00:36:00,900 --> 00:36:05,700
of, just just you, Fos per se. 
It says 2011 to 2016. 

590
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:13,500
Aw sap was only funded for 
2009-2010 from 2011 onwards. 

591
00:36:13,500 --> 00:36:16,500
Look at Sea along with Reid, 
tried different funding, 

592
00:36:16,500 --> 00:36:21,100
Arrangements, including moving 
a, aw sap to the Department of 

593
00:36:21,100 --> 00:36:24,500
Homeland Security. 
Eventually like cats, he retired

594
00:36:24,500 --> 00:36:29,800
as of a retired as was a, aw 
sap. 

595
00:36:30,300 --> 00:36:31,900
You. 
It's almost like this goes 

596
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,600
Organization hanging around 
unfunded 45 years. 

597
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:40,200
It just it really makes you just
think, wow, how inefficient is 

598
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,900
our government? 
So you had this thing all we 

599
00:36:42,900 --> 00:36:46,300
know for sure is that a? 
Aw sap was funded for like, what

600
00:36:46,300 --> 00:36:51,300
a year and Then for about 45 
years. 

601
00:36:51,300 --> 00:36:55,700
It hangs around says, ghost 
organization with no funding and

602
00:36:55,700 --> 00:36:59,700
the former head of that aaww 
sap. 

603
00:37:01,300 --> 00:37:04,800
Wachowski along with the late, 
Senator Harry Reid, or are 

604
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,600
desperately trying to get more 
money to put into it, but they 

605
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:12,200
have no success. 
And then out of that is born a 

606
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:17,000
tip, a completely made-up name. 
There never was a department 

607
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,400
specifically. 
Named a tip. 

608
00:37:20,500 --> 00:37:22,100
It was just a name that Harry 
Reid. 

609
00:37:22,100 --> 00:37:26,100
First, use in order to kind of 
soft sell the notion of funding 

610
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:32,500
Us app. 
But Elizondo uses this whole 

611
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,900
notion that there might have 
been a actual Department called 

612
00:37:36,900 --> 00:37:41,400
a tip and he uses that as a 
launch pad for a career, as a 

613
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,800
UFO expert, that's what it looks
like and that's what they're 

614
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,400
saying in a video that's what 
this fellow yours talking about 

615
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,200
what he got from the book. 
We just don't know all the facts

616
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,600
because we're not being told all
the facts but I think it's 

617
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,800
important to ask questions and 
no personal Vendetta here. 

618
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,900
Yes, to any of these guys. 
But I think when these people 

619
00:38:01,900 --> 00:38:06,500
sort of rise up out of these 
deep State departments and 

620
00:38:06,500 --> 00:38:12,200
become the experts that reveal 
UFO knowledge to the masses, 

621
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,100
then it's important for us to go
back and look at their 

622
00:38:16,100 --> 00:38:17,900
credentials. 
Where do they come from to ask 

623
00:38:17,900 --> 00:38:20,900
questions is okay to do that, 
it's okay to exercise and 

624
00:38:20,900 --> 00:38:23,500
critical thinking. 
So I found this article to be 

625
00:38:23,500 --> 00:38:26,800
fascinating, I'll post it on the
buy me a coffee website. 

626
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,100
The He owes over there, it is 
stuff. 

627
00:38:29,100 --> 00:38:33,000
All came out about a year ago 
but it really did not get the 

628
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,600
kind of media player that I 
think that it deserves and it's 

629
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,000
definitely something that if 
you're interested in the UFO 

630
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,100
phenomenon you got to take a 
look at this stuff. 

631
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,500
Until next time, this is UFO 
morning over. 

632
00:38:43,500 --> 00:38:29,100
Now, He owes over there, it is 
stuff. 

633
00:38:29,100 --> 00:38:33,000
All came out about a year ago 
but it really did not get the 

634
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,600
kind of media player that I 
think that it deserves and it's 

635
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,000
definitely something that if 
you're interested in the UFO 

636
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,100
phenomenon you got to take a 
look at this stuff. 

637
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,500
Until next time, this is UFO 
morning over. 

638
00:38:43,500 --> 00:38:43,900
Now,