Hello and welcome to the program UFO Warning.
In this episode, we're talking about Yaron the Chinese Bigfoot.
That's correct. Yaron, the Chinese Bigfoot
that's spelled YERENI, think it's important that we look at
these Cryptid sightings the same way we do with the UFOs on a
global scale, because these things are happening all over
the place. And if we just try to relegate
sightings to what happens in our own country and here in the US,
it kind of gives us a little bit of a myopic approach.
The truth is these things are a worldwide phenomena.
Now in the dense miscovered forest of Hubei Province,
Shingojia National Park, stories of a creature known as the urine
or Wildman have persisted for centuries.
Often compared to Bigfoot or the Yeti, the urine is described as
a large bipedal ape like figure that roams China's remote
wilderness. Despite numerous reported
sightings, scientific expeditions and cultural
fascination, conclusive evidence of the urine's existence remains
elusive, leaving it the subject of intrigue and debate.
Sounds an awful like, awful lot like what's going on in this
country with Bigfoot. The urine is deeply embedded in
Chinese folklore, with references to hairy humanoid
beings appearing in ancient texts like the Shanghai Jing
Classic of Mountains and Seas, a 2000 year old compilation of
mythical creatures in geography. Modern accounts, however, centre
on Shenangia, A rugged, biodiverse region in Hubei known
for its towering peaks and impenetrable forest.
Local communities have long shared tales of a creature that
walks upright, standing 6 to 8 feet tall, covered in reddish
brown or black hair, with a face resembling an ape but with human
like features. Unlike Bigfoot in North America,
which often captures attention through pop culture, the urine
holds a more nuanced place in Chinese society.
For some, it represents the untamed mystery of nature.
For others, it's a potential scientific discovery, an
undiscovered primate or a remnant of an extinct species.
We see the same thing happening with Bigfoot, especially among
our own native population. They see Bigfoot oftentimes as
kind of a spiritual thing. Now reports of urine sighting
stayed back for decades with a with a surge in the mid 20th
century. 1976, one of the most widely publicized encounters
occurred in Shenangia when 6 government officials claimed to
have spotted a reddish haired creature standing on a hillside.
The group observed the figure for several minutes before it
disappeared into the forest, prompting A widespread media
coverage and government interest.
Another notable incident took place in 1980 in Guangxi
province, where a former where a farmer reported being confronted
by a towering heavy creature with long arms and a guttural
growl. The farmer escaped unharmed but
later found unusual hair at the site, which was collected but
yielded inconclusive results when analyzed.
Isn't it interesting how it's always inconclusive when they
can't identify it? Most recently, in 2010, a
research team exploring Shinjia discovered a cave with broken
branches and hair samples suggesting possible habitation.
However, no definitive evidence linked to findings to an unknown
species. Footprints, often measuring up
to 16 inches along with a human like shape, have been documented
in multiple cases, but the skeptics argue these could be
loaned to bears or other large animals native to the region.
YARN has drawn significant attention from researchers,
particularly during the 1970s and 80s when the Chinese
government funded large scale expeditions into Shinjia.
Teams of scientists, military personnel and local trackers
scoured the forest, collecting hair, footprints and fecal
samples. While some hair samples defied
immediate classification, most were later identified as
belonging to known animals such as bears or monkeys, or two
degraded for conclusive analysis.
One prevailing theory links the urn to Gigantopithecus blackie,
an extinct giant ape that inhabited southern China until
100,000 years ago. Fossil evidence suggests
Giantopithecus stood about up to 10 feet tall and weighed over
1000 lbs, making it a plausible candidate for the urine's
origins. Some cryptogeologists speculate
that a small population could have survived in isolated
regions. However, mainstream scientists
counter that the lack of recent fossils and the ecological
challenges of sustaining such a population make this unlikely.
Alternative theories propose the urine could be a surviving
hominid, such as a home, what erectus relative, or an unknown
primate species. Limited DNA analysis of alleged
year hair have occasionally hinted at unidentified primate
markers, but these findings remain controversial due to
sample contamination or inconclusive results.
Skeptics attribute urine sightings to misidentification
or cultural influence. Shenzhen dense forest, often
shrouded in fog, can distort perceptions, leading to mistaken
sightings of bears, Gibbons, or other wildlife.
Black bears in particular, are known to stand upright and could
be mistaken for a humanoid figure and low visibility.
Additionally, the power of folklore may predispose
witnesses to interpret and biggest encounters as the urn.
Despite the lack of hard evidence, the urn's alert
persist. Chenangia National Park at
UNESCO World Heritage Site has capitalized on the legend,
promoting urine themed tourism to attract visitors.
Local guides offer tours to alleged sighting spots, and
museums display cast of supposed urine footprints.
Whether the urine is a real creature and misidentified
animal or product of cultural imagination, the story endures
is a testament to humanity's fascination with the unknown.
For people of Shinjiya, the urine is more than a Cryptid.
It's a symbol of the region's wild, untamed beauty and a
reminder that even in the modern age, nature's old secrets yet to
be uncovered, the scientific tools advance and interest in
the urine persist. Researchers are enthusiast and
enthusiast continue to comb China's forest, hoping to catch
a glimpse of the elusive Wildman.
Until definitive proof emerges, the urine remains A compelling
mystery, straddling the line between myth and possibility.
That's one way of looking at it for sure.
I want to take a look at another article here kind of building on
this introduction that we just looked at This is from six
tone.com. It says in search of China's
Bigfoot retired cadres continue 40 year mission to seek
Shenzie's savage despite white widespread antipathy.
This is dated August 15th, 2016 by Nathan Jeb starts off.
It says the Jeep snaked its way across the verdant mountains of
Shenzhen in the early hours of the morning, carrying with it a
crew of five of the area's top leaders.
It was May 1976 and the group was returning to song Bay, a
small town in China's central Hubei province, after a day of
meetings about agricultural production. 7 hours away in
Yuan. At around 5:00 AM, Shen Li
Sheng, at the time the deputy director of Shenzhen party
office, was startled to wake by a shout from the driver.
That's there's something up ahead.
Food was scarce and Shenzhou at the time, if the group had
stumbled upon a wild sheep or goat, it would present a rare
chance to fill the stomach of several households.
But as the 29 year old Chen stared through his blurry eyes
at the animal standing in the car's headlight, he realized
that something wasn't right. This was no sheep.
It was the same height as a tall human and walked on its hind
legs. Buoyed by their advantage in
numbers, Chen and the other 3 passengers in the back jumped
out of the vehicle to surround the animal and hope of capturing
it. As the group came close, Chen
saw the animal's body was covered in red fur.
Frightened the animal grasp at the branches hanging over the
track to pull itself up onto the slope beside the track, but
failed and fell down into shrubbery before running off.
The four guy back in the car and for the rest of the journey back
tried and failed to make sense of what they'd just seen.
The daily broadcast on the cars radio of the folk song Sing the
East is Red marked their arrival at Song Bay and the 40 years
since that night, there have been a reported 200 sightings of
a so-called yarn, literally a savage or wild person, Xingje's
very own Bigfoot. Despite a lack of conclusive
scientific evidence, Shenzhen's Bigfoot believers maintained to
this day that such a creature does exist.
Shen, now 70, is among them. Shenzhen, a region covering more
than 3000 square kilometers, can seem like a magical place.
Clouds often shroud the karst mountains that support a
primeval forest covering 96% of the area.
Hidden beneath the mist of the forest canopy is an ecosystem of
incredible biodiversity, home to the golden snub nosed monkey,
the clouded leper, the Asian black bear and the bizarre
looking Chinese giant salamander.
For its human inhabitants, though, the region can be a
tough environment, especially in the 1970s.
After graduating from Wuhan University, Chen was sent to
Xinjiang, where he and his colleagues were charged with
leading the various departments of the local government.
They quickly found that there were hardly any schools and food
was scarce. Chen survived mostly on corn
rice he says was a rare treat on a humid August evening.
Soft spoken Chinas drinking tea in a cafe in Hubei's province's
capital Wuhan, and recalls how after the encounter he found the
vice minister of the publicity department for Ying Yang
inviting him to visit the scene of the sighting.
When the pair inspected the scene, they found unusual
looking red hair, which they presumed belonged to the
unidentified creature. Chen decided to contact the
central government and send an 800 word report to the Chinese
Academy of Sciences. The experts at CES deemed the
discovery significant. It was important that the
eyewitnesses were all high-ranking officials, Chen
says. As party members, we wouldn't
have lied. The experts at CES contacted the
Hubei provincial provincial government and told them to give
the issue their immediate attention.
A year later, in 1977, they set up an investigative unit.
The group of more than 100 people spent four months on the
case. The team, which included experts
from CAS, Wuhan University and soldiers, found a nest, fur and
large footprints, all of which they suspected belonged to the
mystery animal. Ultimately, the investigation
did not result in any conclusive evidence.
The failure of the investigation of bear fruit came as no
surprise to Wang Shen, say, an 80 year old diehard Bigfoot
believer who was among Chinas first batch of archaeologists in
the 1950s. Speaking about the head of the
investigation, military official Wang Guxing, Wang says We knew
nothing about scientific research.
It isn't a surprise that Wang sounds bitter.
Just a year before the CIS Commission project, the project
of 1977, he had been sought by the local government in Shenzhen
to lead an investigation prompted by a farmers encounter
with an unidentified creature in May of 1974.
But it was a small scale investigation with only thirty
members. In October, after only two
months, Wang was ordered to step down and return to his position
as a low level civil servant to conduct government meetings as
the central leadership sought to maintain stability following
Mao's death that September. But Wang's passion for the cause
was never completely extinguished, and in 2009 he
established the Hubei Wildman Investigation Institute, of
which he is chairman. The private organizations
membership includes experts, officials and ordinary citizens.
Although the association has no government backing, Wang
continues to view his quest as an unshakable duty.
His wife and son moved to Shanghai a long time ago, but he
has stayed behind. I was supposed to enjoy my life
after I retired 20 years ago, but I stayed here due to my
sense of responsibility. His officials gave me this task,
Wang says. I feel that I should devote
myself to this issue. At that time, public money was
funding the search for the Shangji savage.
The Hubei government and CES both supported the 1977
investigation. But over the years, these funds
have dried up. In 2009, Wang decided to
establish association in the hope of discovering definitively
whether or not the Shangji savage exist.
But he discovered that the then director of the Wuhan Forestry
Bureau didn't believe in the savage, and as such, no public
money has been forthcoming. Today, the association is
struggling to raise funds to carry out an investigation.
Wang has approached entrepreneurs but found them
unwilling to provide money for his research because of the
uncertainty of any return on investment.
Wang insists that solving the mystery is scientifically
significant enough to be worthy of support.
Many people have seen it, he insists.
We won't jump to reckless conclusions as a scientist.
But whatever name you give it, I believe this strange being
exists. But Bigfoot believers aren't
just up against reluctant investors.
They also face accusations that their quest is simply a ploy to
increase interest in the area and boost local tourism.
Lo Young Ben, director of administration at the Change
Right National Nature Reserve, is adamant that their cause not
be construed as an attempt to generate interest in the region.
Shinji isn't hyping things up for tourism.
He says. The people of Shinji haven't
created the myth for their own benefit or to increase the
renown of the place. In his more than 20 years in
Shinji, 45 year old Lua has heard many of the eyewitness
accounts of Bigfoot. He rattles them off with a
twinkling eye, gestling widely as if he were present for each.
Louis time eventually came in 2008, when he claims he spotted
a female creature with a child. Louis was travelling with a
journalist for a local television station who had been
interviewing him. The journalist was asleep at the
time and promptly accused Lua of making up the story to create
publicity to help the area's tourist industry.
But when Lua posted a story online, he faced a similar
response. People cursed me out.
He he laughs. But we aren't lying.
Well, I guess a deep person, people in China the same way
they do here. The reaction is reminder that
however convinced the individual is, eyewitness accounts are
impossible to verify. Scientists also point out that
not one single Bigfoot fossil has ever been found, yet other
fossils are relatively abundant. Zhao Lingzhai, ACS, expert in
pay ontology, the study of human evolution through fossils,
believes the only reliable evidence can come from bones.
For US paleanthropologist, we need bones to verify the
existence of a species because a soft tissue can get rotten, but
bones will not, she says. With such a lack of scientific
evidence, Sal believes it is time for people to move on.
Given that many Chinese people can hardly afford food and
doesn't make sense for the government to devote money and
human resources into this issue, she says they have more
important things to do. Wang Shinsei is aware of the
case against Bigfoot believers like himself, but remains
unmoved. Some animal experts from Beijing
China Academy of Science reached 2 conclusions without even
having been there. He says it's ridiculous that
they claim to know all animals while sitting at home.
It is improbable that such a claim would be used today,
however, given that new species are discovered on a daily basis.
Wang is confident that his association would be able to
solve the mystery quickly with modern technology, including
cameras, infrared detectors, and monitors.
But it's the cost of the technology that is proving the
greatest barrier to realizing his life's mission.
Well, Wang's dedication to uncovering Xinjiang's Bigfoot
sees him living alone in his old, aged thousands of miles
from family. For Chin, the saga is mostly in
the past. Although he believes further
investigation into the insolved mystery is is necessary, he
hasn't let it take over his life. 40 years after his
mountain top sighting, Chin lives happily in retirement with
his wife in the provincial capital of Wuhan.
The quest to prove the existence of the Shen Zhongjie Savage may
have yet to bear fruit, but the legend has given Chen a gift, a
one-of-a-kind story. I have told the story to my
grandkids and I also told my son when he was little.
Chen smiles. He was amazed.
Yeah, what a cool story. I want to finish up with this
article from cnn.com of all places.
This title says Bigfoot sighting in China Monday June 30th 2003
Beijing, China Chinese authorities are investigating
several apparent sightings of a legendary ape like beast at a
nature preserve in the central Hubei province.
The mythical creature suspected by locals to be a Bigfoot was
apparently seen by 6 people, including a journalist in the
Xinjiang Nature Reserve on Sunday afternoon, the state-run
Zhengyou news agency reported. Local legend has it that the
reserve is home to the half man, half ape creature, but several
high profile researchers in the past three decades have failed
to find any evidence of its existence.
Speculation the Bigfoot could be a descendant of apes mounted
after China's state media reported several years ago that
scientists had found fossilized teeth of giant primates in the
area. The latest sighting described
the creature as a grayish ape like animal, the Zhenua report
said. About 1.65 meters tall with
shoulder length black hair. A vehicle carrying the
journalist and five others was making a turn when the occupants
saw the creature moving fast across the road, the Zenyat
report said. By the time the vehicle had
stopped, the animal had disappeared.
The passengers found several 30 centimetre long 12 inch
footprints and newly broken branches in the jungle near the
road. They also claim to have
discovered a 10 foot patch of foul smelling urine like liquid
on the road where the creature was seen.
While some scientists theorize your creature could be the
missing link between primates and humans, other hypothesis say
it may be a bear, monkey or an elaborate hoax.
You just got to wonder who'd have time to perform an
elaborate hoax like that in China where they're talking
about Naive having enough food to eat.
I just think this is really cool sightings, especially when you
consider probably we're not getting some of the very best
ones reported. We're talking about an area
that's that's undoubtedly sheltered far away from the
major cities and nightlife in a, in a, in a country that's still
fairly well closed off any way you look at it.
Very cool reports. Until next time, this is UFO
warning over and out.