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Hello and welcome to the program
UFO Warning. 

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In this episode we're talking 
about Bigfoot in New Mexico. 

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That's correct. 
Bigfoot in New Mexico. 

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Found these over at bfro.net. 
So many cool sightings over 

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there. 
This first one happened, it says

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November 2001. 
Actual date November 24th, 2001 

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Dona Ana County, New Mexico 
Location details One to two 

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miles east of I-25, north of the
Fort Selden exit. 

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Nearest town Las Cruces. 
Nearest road I-25 Observed. 

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It says we were camping during 
Thanksgiving week. 

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There were three adults, two 
teenagers and two small 

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children. 
My 14 year old son was outside 

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at night getting something from 
our SUV when he turned and saw 

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what he described as a 8 foot 
tall humanoid figure walking 

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South in half moonlight. 
He had no flashlight to see more

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clearly, but when he spotted the
figure, I'll just call it an it,

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he got scared and ran back into 
the trailer where we were all 

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staying. 
The weather was fairly cold, 

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just above freezing as I recall,
and it was a couple of days 

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after a sandstorm had passed 
through. 

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The sky was clear with only a 
few clouds that night. 

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Once inside, he told us what 
he'd seen. 

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We laughed and thought he was 
joking. 

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So we suggested that because of 
its size, maybe it was Bigfoot. 

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A friend of mine has connections
with people who had reported at 

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least four Bigfoot sightings in 
the mountains over the past 

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decade. 
Well, most reports are from 

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forested areas. 
It wasn't unheard of to hear 

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about sightings in the desert 
within an hour's drive. 

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Where we're camping there are 
many forested and wooded 

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mountain areas, so it isn't so 
far fetched to think they could 

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roam outside their usual 
territory, especially at night. 

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After we laughed it off, my 18 
year old nephew took a 

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flashlight and the two boys 
stood just outside the trailer 

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to see if they could spot the 
figure again. 

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Although they didn't see 
anything, they suddenly heard a 

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loud deep growl, like an angrier
warning growl, along with the 

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sound of dirt being scraped or 
dug into as if by foot. 

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My nephew said it reminded him 
of a bull scraping the dirt with

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its hoof before charging. 
Both boys panicked, ran outside,

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slammed the door and fell over 
themselves trying to get in. 

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They were yelling that it was 
outside. 

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I asked her questions, but it 
was clear that Derek was 

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completely terrified and 
absolutely unwilling to go back 

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outside. 
At that moment, I felt we might 

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be in danger. 
We stayed inside, peeking out 

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the windows with flashlights, 
but saw nothing. 

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We locked the trailer door and 
our friend who slept in his car 

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also locked his vehicle for the 
night. 

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The boys ended up driving back 
to La Crucis because they were 

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too afraid to stay. 
My nephew also had work the next

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morning. 
We checked the area the 

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following morning, but any 
tracks, ours and otherwise, have

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been erased by the blowing sand.
Wow. 

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This is time and conditions. 
9:00 PM. 

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Near freezing temperatures. 
Environment Bureau of Land 

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Management land. 
Hilly, mountainous, rocky, sandy

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desert terrain. 
Cattle and other animals 

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sometimes graze here as 
evidenced by old cow patties. 

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Popular area for mountain 
biking, ATV riding and off 

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roading during the daytime. 
No other campers or people were 

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nearby. 
Closest to the highway are 

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scattered homes, ranches and A 
food factory. 

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Mostly desert vegetation. 
Not a typical Bigfoot area, but 

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we have no other logical 
explanation for what happened 

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And then under follow up 
investigation it says BFRO 

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investigator Matthew Moneymaker.
There were five people present 

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during the incident with two 
eyewitnesses. 

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The temperature was near 
freezing, personal moonlight 

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with a few clouds. 
Train was desert with ravines, 

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mountains visible in the 
distance. 

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The two eyewitnesses were a 14 
year old boy and his 18 year old

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cousin. 
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mother, grandmother, a family 
friend and two small children. 

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Investigator Craig Wojeater 
interviewed the 14 year old and 

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his mother on 2 separate 
occasions. 

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The 14 year old said he went 
outside the camper to get soft 

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drinks from the car. 
As he approached, he saw a large

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black humanoid figure walking on
2 legs through a ravine. 

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He could not make out facial 
features or other details. 

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He estimated the figure to be 
about 8 feet tall since the 

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ravine was walking. 
Since the ravine was walking in 

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was 10 feet deep, after the 
sighting, his cousin joined him 

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with the flashlight. 
The tall figure was no longer 

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visible. 
After a few minutes, they heard 

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a loud, intimidating growl along
with a scraping sound like a 

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bull digging its hoof into the 
dirt before charging. 

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Doesn't sound very inviting. 
That says no arrangements are 

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being made for these witnesses 
to meet with attendees of the 

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upcoming New Mexico BFR 
expedition in late December of 

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2004. 
Of course, that's been 20 years 

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ago. 
One of the areas targeted by the

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exhibition is close to where 
this incident occurred. 

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A small team from the group will
investigate the site for tracks 

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and potential travel routes to 
other reported sighting areas. 

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Pretty neat. 
This sighting is dated September

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6th, 2010. 
Los Alamos County, New Mexico 

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Location details The location 
was deep in the mountains up 

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Ponderosa Rd. which is off the 
main road in Jamez nearest town 

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Jamez Pueblo nearest Rd. 
Hwy. 550 to the best of my 

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knowledge observed. 
Hi my name is Joe I'm 20 years 

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old. 
I recently had an encounter that

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I can't explain. 
Let me start from the beginning.

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I live in Albuquerque, NM and 
the deep and the closest camping

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spots to me are in the Jamez 
Mountains. 

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A friend of mine often goes 
hunting and camping there. 

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A couple of years ago he told me
about an encounter he and his 

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Uncle Mike had in a place they 
call the Meadow. 

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He said that about an hour 
before sundown, while at the 

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campsite, he and his family 
heard a loud shrieking sound 

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about 300 to 400 yards away. 
The sound lasted 30 seconds to a

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full minute. 
He asked me what kind of animal 

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has the lung capacity to hold a 
call that long. 

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As he sat around the fire, he 
said he could see something 

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upright moving between the trees
on the Ridge. 

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The being walked back and forth 
between the trees until sundown.

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He didn't mention it to anyone 
because his girlfriend and 

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sisters were there and he didn't
want to cause a scare. 

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That night the family was 
awakened by the same shrieking, 

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this time coming from the Ridge.
The sound was so loud he could 

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feel the base in his chest. 
It lasted about a minute and a 

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half. 
Later I spoke with his Uncle 

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Mike about it. 
Mike is an experienced backwoods

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hunter who has travelled all 
over the country. 

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He admitted he was genuinely 
afraid of that campsite. 

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He told me that as a boy he had 
camped there with his brother 

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and mother. 
Whatever was out there scared 

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his mother so badly she packed 
up in the middle of the night 

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and left. 
Mike said he would never go 

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back. 
Eventually my friend and I 

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persuaded him to return with us.
Last summer, the four of us, my 

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friend Uncle Mike, Uncle Richard
and myself, camped at that same 

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spot for five nights. 
Nothing unusual happened. 

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A month later, I camped there 
with my girlfriend for several 

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nights. 
Again, nothing happened. 

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But this past Labor Day weekend,
something changed. 

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The first night was uneventful. 
On the second night, we visited 

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a friend who was camping several
miles away. 

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But as it got dark, I told my 
girlfriend we needed to return 

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to our camp. 
I drove back quickly, started 

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the fire right away, and set 
with her by the fire. 

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For some reason, I felt 
extremely tense for about an 

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hour. 
Finally, I told her I just 

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wanted to go to bed. 
I palled wood in the fire and we

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crawled into the back of my 
Hummer to sleep. 

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My vehicle was parked facing 
away from the interest of the 

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campsite. 
A canopy stood directly behind 

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it, under which I had left my 
backpack in a garbage bag. 

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The campfire was about 15 feet 
away, with two chairs nearby. 

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My girlfriend and I lay in the 
back of the Hummer with our 

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heads toward the rear. 
Sometime later I woke up groggy.

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I noticed a glow of the fire 
fading, then going out. 

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Immediately after I heard 
something rubbing against the 

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vehicle on my side, then the 
sound of a shovel and two 

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fishing poles being knocked 
over. 

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My adrenaline spiked. 
I stayed quiet so as not to wake

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my girlfriend. 
For about 10 minutes I listened 

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to the movement outside. 
After about 15 minutes I heard 

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it rub against the Hummer again.
At that point I gently shook my 

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girlfriend and whispered. 
I need you to listen carefully. 

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Something is outside the Hummer.
I don't know what it is or how 

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big it is, but I'm going to get 
the gun. 

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I retrieved my 9mm, switched off
the safety and lay there 

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trembling, holding my girlfriend
close. 

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We listened together as it tore 
into the garbage, knocked things

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over, and made heavy grunts in 
the footsteps. 

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Every noise made us cling to 
each other tighter. 

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At first I thought it might be a
bear ready in the camp. 

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The noises came from the 
campfire area, then moved closer

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to the vehicle. 
A few times I propped myself up 

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to see, but it was pitch dark. 
The only light was from faint 

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embers and the sky just visible 
above the tree line. 

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The noise then shifted to my 
girlfriend's side of the vehicle

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with a cooler and dry box were 
kept. 

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It sounded like the cooler was 
dumped over. 

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Then came a loud clang. 
The canopy had been knocked 

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down. 
I whispered to my girlfriend. 

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Oh my, it just knocked over the 
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She began crying quietly and 
said I want to leave now. 

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I moved into the driver's seat, 
gripped my gun, started the 

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Hummer, turned around and drove 
out of there. 

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We saw nothing as we left. 
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about 10 minutes later and spent
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In the morning, my girlfriend 
told me she had seen it. 

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She said that when the canopy 
collapsed, she saw a large black

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figure move past the window. 
It was taller than the top of 

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the Hummer's window. 
Since the Hummer is about 6 feet

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tall, she estimated it was at 
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We returned to the campsite at 
sunrise to collect our 

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belongings. 
Strangely, everything was in 

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place except 2 knocked over 
chairs and the canopy, which had

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been flipped upside down 20 feet
from where it had been standing.

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There had been no wind that 
night. 

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If it were a bear, the canopy 
would have been crushed, not 

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thrown. 
Even more unsettling, the trash 

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bag I had left open was 
untouched, and my backpack and 

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gear were undisturbed. 
Whatever it was seemed to have 

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gone through the campsite 
carefully, then put things back 

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almost exactly as they were. 
I want to emphasize that I don't

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drink or use drugs. 
This was not just the wind. 

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I have never in my life felt 
terror like I did that night, 

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and writing this even now brings
me to tears. 

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I've only shared this story with
a few people because I don't 

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want to sound crazy. 
That sounds pretty wild, man. 

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Also noticed no prints were 
found except for two possible 

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impressions. 
One appeared to be about 18 

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inches long, near Cal Patty with
vegetation pressed down around 

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it. 
Another similar impression was 

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about 5 feet away. 
Other witnesses, my girlfriend, 

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other stories, experiences of my
friend's Uncle Mike. 

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Time and conditions around 2:00 
AM. 

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Extremely dark, no moonlight, 
calm weather, environment. 

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Pine forest with two ridges 
about 50 yards on either side of

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the Meadow and it says follow up
investigation report BFRO 

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investigator Mike Cedillo. 
I spoke with the witness in 

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early October. 
We organized a small expedition 

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to the site with myself and my 
daughter and a fellow New Mexico

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investigator. 
We met Joe at a nearby cafe on 

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Saturday morning, then set up 
camp at Meadow. 

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Not far from camp, we discovered
a trackway suggesting a large 

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bipedal animal had crossed an 
old logging Rd. 

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We followed it for 6 or 700 
yards, finding several old elk 

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bones along the way that 
appeared to have been cracked 

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open with a rock. 
My daughter found a fresher 

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trackway with clear prints going
up a small hill. 

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That evening around 10:00 PM, my
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Boy Joe, and Joe's cousin went 
to a Ridge east of camp. 

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My daughter thought she saw I 
shine in a Grove of trees 

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followed by a large shadow 
moving away. 

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The group returned to camp and 
went to bed. 

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Later that night a snowstorm 
moved in so we packed up and 

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left before being snowed in. 
Future investigations are 

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planned for this location. 
I found the witness very 

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credible and based on what we 
observed, I believe the area 

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warrants further investigation. 
I guess so. 

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The sightings dated September 
17th, 2002, McKinley County, New

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Mexico nearest town. 
Rock Springs nearest Hwy. 264 

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observed I work for and then it 
says remove that request. 

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A witness, the headquarters 
dispatcher reported that some 

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customers were without water in 
the Rock Springs community. 

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I responded and drove to the 
storage tank site which is 

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located approximately 1 1/2 
miles northwest of Sagebrush 

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Bar. 
I checked the tank level and 

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found it empty so I proceeded 
back to Hwy. 264. 

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The road to the tank site is a 
dirt Rd. 

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I was about 150 yards from the 
highway, the only light from my 

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unit's headlight shining 
straight down on the road. 

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My mind was preoccupied with 
thoughts about the water outage 

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when about 20 yards in front of 
my truck, I saw something walk 

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out from behind a juniper tree 
located on the West side of the 

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dirt Rd. 
As soon as it stepped into the 

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headlights, it hesitated and 
looked toward me. 

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I stopped the truck immediately.
It then began walking faster, 

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lengthening at stride. 
It took about four steps to 

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cross the road. 
It did not cross in a straight 

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line, but at an angle and 
disappeared behind another 

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juniper tree on the east side of
the dirt Rd. 

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My total visual contact with 
what I now call the creature was

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about 15 seconds. 
I waited to see if it would 

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reappear or if I could detect 
any movement, but saw nothing. 

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I sat there thinking, what did I
just see? 

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I went through an elimination 
process. 

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It was not a horse, cow, deer, 
or elk, four of the large 

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animals common in this area. 
The creature had a shiny brown, 

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hairy coat and was approximately
7 feet tall. 

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Its face was like a monkey's, 
with large black eyes shaped 

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like teardrops. 
Its head was small and tapered 

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to a long point in the back. 
The torso was skinny with narrow

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shoulders. 
The arms and legs were only 

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about 3 to 4 inches in diameter.
I saw elbows and knees, but no 

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distinct hands, fingers, feet or
toes. 

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The ends appeared rounded off, 
like stumps, similar to how an 

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amputee's limb might look. 
Its gate was long, covering the 

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road in about four steps. 
At that point, a chill came over

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me. 
I quickly locked both doors. 

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I did not even want to look out 
my side window because a strong 

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sense of fear had taken hold. 
I revved the engine and drove 

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quickly toward the highway. 
At the pump house I found the 

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problem. 
There have been a power outage 

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at the well site. 
I had to go back to Fort 

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Defiance to pick up fuses. 
Not wanting to return alone I 

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had the dispatcher contact the 
electric line standby and I went

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back to the well with him. 
Together we restored service. 

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The next day of my Co worker and
I returned to the site and found

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footprints. 
He had a digital camera and took

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photos. 
The footprints were four to five

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feet apart and we tracked them E
into the brush. 

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That night I went home, made a 
sketch of what I'd seen, and 

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told my children about the 
incident. 

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And that sounds strange. 
This bit about the ends of the 

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appendages being rounded off, 
almost like an amputee says. 

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It's almost like maybe this 
thing is kind of phasing, 

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phasing in and out. 
I often think these things are 

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three-dimensional, some kind of 
interdimensional creatures, 

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rather. 
Also noted, it says none. 

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I have a drawing, photos of the 
footprints, other witnesses. 

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I was alone at the time deciding
I heard about a grandmother who 

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lives north of the storage sinks
who reported a creature visiting

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her home. 
It chases sheep inside the 

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corral and her relative has 
fired a gun at it, causing it to

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run away. 
Time and conditions. 11:45 PM. 

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Dark clear skies now moonlight 
environment. 

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The area contains juniper trees 
and a lot of sagebrush. 

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The road is packed dirt while 
the ground off road is sandy, 

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which is why the footprints were
easy to see. 

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The Sagebrush bar is about a 
half a mile east of location and

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then follow up investigation. 
I interviewed the witness in 

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person on February 15th, 2005 
and I know the location will 

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because of other activity 
reported nearby in the fall of 

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2002 and again 2004. 
I also drive past the area 

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several times a week. 
I revisited the site in late 

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February after the interview to 
obtain a UTM reading for mapping

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additional details and 
clarifications from the witness.

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The hair was brown, similar in 
length to a dog's fur. 

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The animal clearly turned its 
head toward the witness and 

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glared at him while crossing. 
The facial expression remains 

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vivid and unsettling to him. 
Its mouth was small, lips pursed

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and face monkey like, with less 
fur than the rest of the body. 

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It walked with long steps, 
swinging its arms, much like the

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creature in the Patterson film. 
The witness did not see details 

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of hands or feet. 
They appeared stump like, 

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possibly because of cupping or 
low visibility. 

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The sketch he made shows the 
hands and feet, though without 

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detail. 
His sketch depicted a thin 

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creature consistent with his 
description. 

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His photo of footprints were 
taken the next day. 

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Copies are in my position. 
However, the sandy soil in the 

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area does not preserve tracks 
well and the dry conditions 

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causing operations to collapse 
inward. 

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The photos show circular 
indentations but little detail 

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the measurements. 
No measurements were taken. 

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The creatures thin appearance is
worth noting. 

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While the common image of a 
Sasquatch is large and muscular,

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many reports, especially from 
the desert Southwest, describe 

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thinner individuals. 
Possible explanations, it says, 

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include drought conditions. 2002
was extremely dry, killing much 

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of the local Pinon pine forest. 
Food scarcity would have looked 

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animals thinner than usual. 
Natural variation Like humans, 

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Sasquatch may come in different 
sizes and builds depending on 

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age, genetics, and life stage. 
I'm currently investigating at 

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least three other reports from 
2002 and 2004 in this immediate 

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area following potential Class 
A&B Sasquatch activity. 

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The area, though near a state 
highway, is rural and may serve 

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as a migration corridor for 
Sasquatch and large wild game. 

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Herda Elk is known to frequent 
the region. 

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The location is further secluded
by its proximity to a large coal

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lease area, which is closed to 
the public and free from human 

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settlement. 
That's wild. 

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We'll do three more here and 
wrap this up. 

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The sightings dated that 
November 1976. 

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Otero County, New Mexico 
location details Mountains with 

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deep forest, mostly pine trees. 
It was during deer hunting 

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season. 
As for directions, I cannot 

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remember exactly since I never 
went back. 

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It was a long time ago when I 
was a young man there. 

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Nearest town opinion New Mexico 
Nearest highway Hwy. 24 observed

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I believe it was in 1976 while I
along with a couple of cousins, 

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primos, went deer hunting in 
Terrell County between Weed and 

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Pinon, NM. 
I am a loner by nature so I went

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off on my own to hunt while they
went in a different direction. 

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As I climbed the side of a 
mountain, I spotted some turkeys

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running uphill, so I gave chase.
When I reached the top, I began 

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descending the other side which 
was thick with pinion trees. 

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Further down, I saw a small 
Meadow in the area. 

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Because of the dense trees, I 
was on my knees resting while 

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watching the Meadow. 
I saw something walk out from 

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the tree line to the left side, 
move along the edge, then go 

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back into the trees. 
It never saw me and I did not 

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stick around for it to see me. 
The figure was tall, maybe 6 1/2

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to 7 feet, covered in long black
hair, and walked upright like a 

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man. 
It was heavily built and 

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appeared muscular. 
Its face was also covered with 

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hair. 
I did not tell anyone about this

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until a few years ago when I 
mentioned it to my grandchildren

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they laughed so I no longer talk
about it. 

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But I know what I saw and if I 
ever encounter another one I 

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would not shoot it. 
I had a remit in 300 BTL rifle 

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with me at the time but I never 
even raised it. 

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Also noticed I've been hunting 
all my life and I've seen all 

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types of wild animals including 
bear. 

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What I saw was not a bear. 
Other witnesses none, Other 

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stories? 
None. 

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Until today when I got online, 
it says time and conditions, 

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morning hours, good lighting, 
somewhat windy environment, 

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mostly pine forest and 
mountainous terrain with summit 

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meadows in certain areas. 
And then follow up investigation

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report by BFR investigator 
Matthew Moneymaker. 

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Alejo is retired, having had a 
long career as a state prison 

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guard at the Southern New Mexico
Correctional Facility in La 

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Cruces. 
My conversation with him 

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established several important 
points about his reliability as 

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an observer. 
Alejo has haunted in the 

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Sacramento Mountains since his 
youth. 

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He has seen black bears many 
times and would not have 

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mistaken one in this situation. 
During his 20 years as a state 

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prison guard, he has spent much 
time closely observing strong, 

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muscular men. 
The figure he saw in the 

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mountains was much bigger than 
any prison inmate he has ever 

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seen. 
When asked if anything else 

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stood out, Vallejo said the 
figure had very dark fur 

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covering its entire body. 
I asked whether it might have 

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been in shadow or in or seen in 
silhouette, making the fur 

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appear darker. 
He was certain about the caller,

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noting that the figure had 
walked across a small Meadow and

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direct overhead sunlight, fully 
exposed at a distance of about 

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50 yards. 
He's not appear. 

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It did not appear to notice him,
or at least made no eye contact,

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and it was not in a hurry. 
Additional Note 2 BFO 

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expeditions are planned to this 
area in O4 and O5. 

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Have very cool stuff. 
The signing is reported as late 

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July 2004. 
Another one from Otero County, 

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New Mexico location details. 
These incidents happen during 

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different seasons and times. 
The areas were brushy with many 

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trees around Nearest town 
Mescalero nearest Highway 70 

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observed around 11:00 PM. 
My sister-in-law ran into my 

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mother in She said it was 
walking back and forth on the 

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trail before it came up to the 
house and stood out at the 

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corner watching them. 
That's when she and her friends 

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run inside and told me. 
We checked outside around the 

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front but saw nothing so they 
went into her room. 

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After that my girlfriend and I 
stayed in the living room 

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watching TVA short while later 
we heard some noise in the 

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dining room. 
I asked what was that. 

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She said she didn't know so I 
jumped up to check. 

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Some of the girls came out to 
see what the noise was. 

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It sounded like someone was 
throwing things around in the 

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room. 
When I got to the dining room, I

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saw a large hand reaching in 
through the window. 

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It reached across the table and 
pulled out a bowl that had food 

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on it. 
We were all scared and I called 

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the conservation office. 
Nothing else happened after 

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that. 
This thing has been hanging 

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around Mollusk Grove for about 
two to three years now. 

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About two years earlier, a 
Bigfoot followed my 

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brother-in-law home from a 
friend's house around midnight. 

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We saw it at about 150 yards 
down the road. 

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Scared, he ran home. 
When we got to the door he 

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started panting on it. 
We didn't know it had followed 

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him until he looked back and saw
us standing about 10 feet behind

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him watching. 
When the door was open, my 

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brother went inside. 
He said the creature left after 

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about 5 minutes. 
Another sighting happened about 

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a year ago at the same house. 
My mother-in-law went out one 

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morning around 8:00 AM to get 
her clothes off the line. 

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There was snow on the ground. 
She saw two sets of tracks, one 

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very large and one small like 
the juvenile was with it. 

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The tracks went between the 
house and the clothesline where 

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some of her clothes had been 
pulled down. 

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The tracks continued toward the 
trees below her house. 

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Now I live in a trailer up the 
highway, but the nearest house 

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being about a mile away. 
One time I could hear loud 

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screams from a Canyon over from 
where I live. 

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Another night my girlfriend and 
I were home with without power 

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and without dogs. 
As we were going to bed, we 

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heard a loud rumble on the side 
of our trailer like something 

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had bumped it hard, almost as if
a car had hit it. 

457
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,640
It only happened once. 
I figured it was a Bigfoot 

458
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,080
because we've heard them around 
here before. 

459
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,200
Wow. 
Sounds like a tremendous amount 

460
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,040
of activity going on there and 
environment around the 1st 

461
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,120
house. 
There are many trees between and

462
00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:05,760
below the houses. 
The neighborhood sits on a hill 

463
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,040
above Highway 70. 
The second location where my 

464
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,560
trailer is, is very brushy with 
a lot of pine trees in a valley.

465
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,040
And then it says follow up 
investigation Eddie Flores. 

466
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,800
I spoke to the witness who added
details about the hand incident.

467
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,280
The kitchen is in the back of 
the house, while several people 

468
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:24,960
were in the front having a 
party. 

469
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,840
The creature's palm was lighter 
and collar to the rest of its 

470
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,360
arm, which is covered in black 
hair. 

471
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,320
Wow. 
Just reaching right in through 

472
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,000
the window and helping us solve 
the lunch, it sounds like. 

473
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,880
That's really wild. 
We'll do one last one here. 

474
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:45,320
The sightings dated July 1980, 
San Juan County, New Mexico 

475
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,480
Location details near a mountain
lake in the Cheska Mountains on 

476
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,880
the New Mexico Arizona border. 
A road runs the length of the 

477
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,840
mountain chain. 
Nearest town to Lena, nearest 

478
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,720
road Route 666. 
Sounds good, doesn't it? 

479
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,480
Observed. 
My family would spend summers in

480
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,280
the mountains helping herd 
sheep. 

481
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,640
We had a cabin, corrals, tents 
and several other structures in 

482
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,080
the property. 
Occasionally we would have 

483
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,040
strange experiences with their 
animals. 

484
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,720
The dogs would bark at something
we couldn't see and the sheep 

485
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,080
would run from something hidden 
in the forest. 

486
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,440
We often felt like something was
watching us from the shadows. 1 

487
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,720
evening near dusk. 
My family had just finished 

488
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,480
dinner and was socializing. 
I had been thumbing through a 

489
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,640
book when John, who I will call 
that out of respect for his 

490
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:38,080
privacy, came running into the 
shade house we had built next to

491
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,960
the cabin. 
He was crying in pales of sheet.

492
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,920
He was always the macho type who
showed no emotion, so to see him

493
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,520
frightened alarmed my 
grandmother, aunts and uncles. 

494
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,560
They hurried out to the front 
door and stood at the threshold 

495
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,840
looking toward the well. 
I put down my book and join 

496
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,280
them. 
They were whispering in Navajo 

497
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,160
when I saw something at the 
well. 

498
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,440
At first I was excited because I
thought it was a black bear, but

499
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,640
then I noticed it was grayish 
brown in collar and kneeling. 

500
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,280
I had never heard of a bear 
kneeling like a man. 

501
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,520
It looked as if it were either 
washing something off or 

502
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,200
drinking. 
I was fine until it looked over 

503
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,800
its shoulder at us and I saw its
features. 

504
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,720
Man like that was all I needed 
to see. 

505
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,200
I ran into the cabin and hidden 
in the bed under the covers. 

506
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,280
I was young at the time, but to 
this day when I asked my mother 

507
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,240
about it, she says everyone 
agreed it was a Bigfoot. 

508
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,400
A few weeks later around 2:00 
AM, it was standing outside her 

509
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,840
tent. 
I saw its shadow against the 

510
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,920
tent. 
Strangely, the dogs made no 

511
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,480
sound when normally they bark 
and howl at anything that comes 

512
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,240
near. 
Yeah, it seems like sometimes 

513
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,560
dogs just have a natural 
tendency to be afraid of these 

514
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,400
things. 
With 'cause I think I also 

515
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,120
noticed no unusual smells or 
sounds. 

516
00:27:55,120 --> 00:27:58,720
It never bothered us but would 
come around occasionally. 

517
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,600
Other witnesses, my grandmother,
aunts, uncles and several 

518
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,120
cousins were present. 
We had just finished dinner. 

519
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,920
John had gone outside to use the
bathroom when the incident 

520
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,920
occurred. 
Follow up investigation says I 

521
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,640
spoke with witness JB. 
When asked for a more detailed 

522
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,160
description of the creature, JB 
said he could not add much more 

523
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,840
than this. 
It was man like and Harry with 

524
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,320
eyes that seemed sunk in. 
He reported that he was too 

525
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,640
scared to look at it for long. 
Other incidents included a story

526
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,200
from his grandfather about 
something that had come into the

527
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,400
area. 
It would stink up the Canyon and

528
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,080
sometimes steal sheep. 
His father also told him that 

529
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,640
the same type of creature once 
tried to get into the back of 

530
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,480
his pickup truck while he sat 
inside with a rifle. 

531
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,680
His father said the creature 
smelled terrible and that he 

532
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,600
would have shot it if it had 
managed to open the locked 

533
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,920
Topper door. 
One other event occurred when a 

534
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,480
sheep went missing. 
Several of the older children 

535
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,800
went searching for it and 
reported being chased off by one

536
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,960
of the large hairy man like 
creatures. 

537
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,960
According to JB, the family 
believe these creatures probably

538
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,800
be migrated in and out of 
Chessica mountains since they 

539
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,720
were not always present. 
Wow. 

540
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,120
Maybe they were there just to 
predate on a sheep or something,

541
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,600
I'm not sure. 
Well, some great sightings there

542
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,880
from years past. 
Hope you enjoyed those. 

543
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,680
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544
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545
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,920
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