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Hello and welcome to the program
UFO Warning. 

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In this episode, we ask what 
about Usos? 

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That's correct. 
What about Usos, our 

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Unidentified Submerged Objects? 
You know, we all heard a lot 

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about UFOs, even UAPS, the 
government designated version. 

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But we don't hear so much about 
USOS. 

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And I thought this was a pretty 
good article from 

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dailymail.co.uk written by Bob 
Wah for dailymail.com dated 

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March 16th 2024. 
Title says forget UFOs. 

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Alien hunters say we should be 
focusing on Unidentified 

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Submerged Objects. 
It begins by saying from 

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sightings by US submarines to 
mysterious humanoids in the 

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depths of Russian lakes, there 
is an even more mysterious 

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cousin to the UFO, the USO or 
unidentified submerged Object. 

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There are multiple reports of 
UFOs from around the world, 

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often from respected military 
and academic professionals, with

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some claiming that underwater 
fast movers are a common part of

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life on board submarines. 
And I think when they say fast 

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movers they mean these things 
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anything that can possibly be 
man made. 

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Just like we see, you know, in 
the atmosphere, high speeds. 

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Speaking to dailymail.com, Nigel
Watson, author of Captured by 

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Aliens Question Mark, a history 
and analysis of American 

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abduction claims said We live on
an ocean planet so it is not 

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surprising that UFOs are seen 
over or in the vicinity of the 

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great expanses of water that 
surround us goes on us as 

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concentrations of UFO sightings 
indicate bases in the North Sea 

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and off the coast of California 
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Quote, Usos are as intriguing as
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difficult to substantiate and 
often get mixed with dreams 

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about Atlantis and aliens living
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Personally to me they are a myth
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Monster. 
Well that doesn't sound like a 

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very open minded approach to 
this to me. 

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Goes on. 
It has a picture of retired Navy

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commander David Fervor here it 
says retired U.S. 

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Navy commander David Fervor. 
Who Fraver, Whether who famously

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spotted the Tic Tac UFO in 2004,
described how a fellow pilot had

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revealed to him an encounter 
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The pilot said he had seen a 
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big and kind of circular, and 
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Fraver told the Joe Rogan 
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dropped a swimmer in the water 
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He said the first time they were
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ammunition. 
He's sitting in the front in the

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Chapter 53. 
You can see down by your feet 

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and he's looking down there 50 
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He sees this kind of dark mass 
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I have to tell you, I'd be a 
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the guy that they're about to 
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If there's a dark mass down 
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is, he's looking at this thing 
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And then it just goes back down 
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Once they pull the kid and the 
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object descends back into the 
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The pilot who was retrieving 
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the sea in AUS Navy MH53 EC 
Dragon helicopter, said that a 

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practice torpedo he was sent to 
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seas by another object. 
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The encounter occurred in the 
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roads on Puerto Rico, Flavor 
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We've talked about this before 
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Some of the really strange going
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this underwater, underwater, 
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being seen and so little 
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And in the late 60s, heavy UFO 
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base. 
An ex Marine said all of U.S. 

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Marines were amazed at the 
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around the base, the witness 
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Virtually every night UFOs were 
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of less than 300 feet. 
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approximately 50 to 100 feet 
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came off as a dull, hazy hull 
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behind it. 
The marine, who wished to remain

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anonymous in an interview with 
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MUFON, said that he was unsure 
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The marine claims he was 
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sightings and said he saw one 
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beautiful cloud with a blue and 
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Well you've heard of these 
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Camouflage against clouds before
now here's one that talks about,

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says underwater craft buses. 
USS Hampton submarine the Los 

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Angeles class fast attack 
submarine says USS Hampton a 

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craft moving through the water 
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whizzed by a submarine. 
USS Hampton, a professor has 

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claimed. 
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underwater. 
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However, far, however far down 
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craft whizzes by you faster than
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Professor Bob McGuire of 
Virginia Tech and the Institute 

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for Defense Analysis said the 
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USO moving through the water 
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McGuire was on the submarine 
doing classified work and says 

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that the crew opted not to 
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their mission, but did not tell 
him that he could not talk about

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the strange encounter. 
In an interview with YouTube 

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channel UAP Encounters, he said 
we were under way and all of a 

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sudden I heard a sound. 
It is really strange and clear 

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that something is wuzzing by us.
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knowledge in my head, not having
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quiet, not having been told it 
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tell whoever I want. 
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The encounter with the fast 
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few seconds, McGuire says. 
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faster than the speed of sound. 
The underwater alien base off 

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Malibu. 
Alien hunters spotted what many 

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described as an alien base 2000 
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Malibu in 2014. 
When Google Earth prevailed what

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appeared to be a structure 
beneath the waves, conspiracy 

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fans went wild. 
Well, we've got to get that 

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conspiracy term in there, don't 
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When Google Earth revealed what 
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beneath the waves, conspiracy 
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Preston Dennett said. 
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100 reports of people who have 
seen UFOs going in, in, in and 

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out of the water there. 
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images are coming out different 
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you're looking at. 
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Some show a tunnel, some don't. 
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possibility, convinced I'm 
convinced there's something down

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there. 
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me, but really no surprise that 
Google would change the images 

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on these things. 
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to comment about them. 
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dismissed the idea that the 
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describing the structure as 
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Of course, they don't want to 
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ordinary, do they? 
Lake Baikal in Siberia has been 

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the site of multiple sightings 
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the Soviet era. 
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turned UFO researcher Latimer 
Azasa said 50% of UFO encounters

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Azala has claimed that humanoid 
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strange lights and mysterious 
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chairman of the Union of 
Photographers of Buriati, Sergey

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Konoshenka, said in 2009. 
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I kept looking at it. 
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really was, I cannot know. 
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happening there in Bacall. 
We've talked about these 

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underwater aliens that were 
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stuff that happens there. 
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some point. 
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different types of UFOs. 
Here we'll look at one more 

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It says what flies in the air, 
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splits into scientifically 
investigating the Aquadela UFO 

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incident. 
And this is written by Duncan 

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Phoenix and George Knapp. 
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can travel not only through the 
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water at high speeds. 
Scientists who've analyzed 

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thermal images of a flying 
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are trying to figure out what 
could have done this A-Team of 

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analysts working with SCU, the 
Scientific Coalition for UAP, 

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Studies, a private group of 
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and investigators produce a 
report analyzing the incident. 

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It is a comprehensive review of 
thermal, visual and sensor data 

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related to an unusual series of 
events in and around Aguadela 

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Puerto Rico Airport in April of 
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And it's got like a 3 1/2 four 
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almost like a black orb flying 
around, really weird Rich 

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Hoffman, one of the Co founders 
of SCUA, 26 year systems analyst

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for the US Army, says the case 
information and thermal images 

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originated with a pilot who 
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Homeland Security. 
So this article here came out 

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like what, three years ago? 
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some of the ones that we've had 
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traction. 
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because it's off the coast of 
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50, you know, American states, 
it seems like it just didn't get

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that much of attention, it says.
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in a recent interview about the 
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to pass it up their food chain, 
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Security. 
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said, well, we don't look into 
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it down. 
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the Air Force Intelligence and 
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The research showed the pilots 
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want anything with UFOs anymore.
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all these hearings that they've 
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When they get a good case like 
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just ignore it and tell you that
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with it. 
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video to be scientifically 
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because again the statement goes
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So we pulled the team together 
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said, well we're going to, you 
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sign a non disclosure agreement.
And yeah, by the way, they have 

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done background checks on us to 
actually see that we could 

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actually come in and work on 
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fact that we're not going to 
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Well, scientifically, the best 
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your sources and then we could 
have a real adult conversation 

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about this. 
But you can see these people are

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so frightened and so 
intimidated, they don't want to 

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be deperson or whatever else. 
So they want to report the UFO 

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incident. 
They just want to do it 

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anonymously, which makes it a 
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Rich Hoffman has a long history 
in Ufology but also works for 

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the military. 
So right there I see a little 

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bit of a conflict of interest. 
In a wide-ranging interview with

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Mystery Wire, Hoffman described 
how he got into Ufology and now 

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he balances it with his real 
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Hoffman also talks about how the
Aguadilla UFO incident led to a 

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massive investigation with the 
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But here we are three years 
later we hardly hear about this.

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The SCU spent two years 
analyzing 7027 frames recorded 

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in the three minute and 54 
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Since the SCU first published 
its report in 2015 by Chris 

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Clark, alternate theories have 
been proposed. 

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UFO debunkers allege the object 
was a Chinese Lantern sent aloft

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by a nearby hotel. 
That's hilarious if you think 

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about it. 
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happened back in 2000. 
What, 13 And ten years later, we

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hardly hear about it. 
Two other, more detailed 

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analysis proposed that a Mylar 
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what is seen in thermal thermal 
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Also more nonsense. 
Hoffman and his colleagues 

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published detailed responses to 
the critics, arguing that any 

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counter theory must explain the 
full sequence of events, not 

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just bits and pieces. 
While talking with Mystery Wire,

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Hoffman compared the Aguadila 
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incident, a 2004 encounter off 
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involving USS Nimitz. 
Carrier group. 

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Mystery Wire asked Hoffman for 
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to which he replied, well, what 
flies like this? 

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What splits into, which has two 
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Which has this color temperature
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we're talking about? 
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Obviously we looked at it and 
there's one bit in the beginning

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of it. 
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but you don't know. 
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the visual range and the thermal
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It could be completely 
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That could be the temperature 
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Did it look like it had any kind
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system? 
Because guess what, the wind 

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speeds at that at the altitude 
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everywhere from 15 to 18 miles 
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east to southeast. 
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around into the wind. 
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propulsion, did you see any 
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And then we said, could it be a 
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We actually have a friend of 
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We reached out to Dave Walsh who
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even had the West Cam camera and
he went out and literally took 

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pieces, took pictures of a 
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thing and what it looked like in
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per hour when and he had a tie 
down and this thing was going 

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like crazy every which direction
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there at all. 
And by the way, have you ever 

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heard of a balloon splitting? 
Well, you know you get where I'm

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going, right. 
So we then said, well, could it 

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be a bird, you know, Well, let's
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birds and thermal as well done. 
You know, so we keep going down 

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the list of things that could 
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And one thing is that, you know,
how many things split into two 

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identical pieces. 
See, it's kind of, I think he's 

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a smart guy. 
He's just kind of stuttering 

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through there a little bit. 
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tried to replicate this with the
balloon and the video does not 

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match up what the, the airport 
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Force people. 
This is a UFO, OK? 

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Balloons don't split in two. 
Balloons don't travel against 

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the wind. 
This is no drone could do with 

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this saying is it says. 
The conclusion they came to you 

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was the object was the object 
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personnel. 
There is no explanation for an 

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object kept capable of traveling
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hour with minimal impact as it 
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air, at 120 mile per hour at low
altitude, through a residential 

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area without navigational 
lights, and finally to be able 

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to be capable of splitting into 
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No bird, no balloon, no aircraft
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capability. 
Well, it's amazing you have this

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object then traveling out over 
the ocean, they see it go down 

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into the water, they're clocking
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It comes up out of the water. 
Doesn't make really any kind of 

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a disturbance on the water 
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Flies along over the land, 
splits in two, all against the 

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wind. 
Yeah, that's not a drone. 

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It's not a balloon. 
It's not a butterfly. 

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During Rich Hoffman's interview 
with Mystery Wire, he went into 

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great detail about what the 
Aguadela case proves about UFO 

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investigations. 
He analyzed a Tic Tac UFO, 

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discusses what the Russians and 
Chinese might be studying, and 

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talks about Ted Phillips and 
investigation of the UFO trace 

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cases. 
And it's pretty interesting 

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article here, but it's got some 
great video on it. 

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I'm going to put the links on 
this on the Kofi and the Locals 

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website. 
You can take a look for 

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yourself. 
It's got an interview here with 

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Hoffman and also with George 
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So pretty good work actually. 
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to say thanks to all the folks 
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