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In this episode, we ask what about Usos?
That's correct. What about Usos, our
Unidentified Submerged Objects? You know, we all heard a lot
about UFOs, even UAPS, the government designated version.
But we don't hear so much about USOS.
And I thought this was a pretty good article from
dailymail.co.uk written by Bob Wah for dailymail.com dated
March 16th 2024. Title says forget UFOs.
Alien hunters say we should be focusing on Unidentified
Submerged Objects. It begins by saying from
sightings by US submarines to mysterious humanoids in the
depths of Russian lakes, there is an even more mysterious
cousin to the UFO, the USO or unidentified submerged Object.
There are multiple reports of UFOs from around the world,
often from respected military and academic professionals, with
some claiming that underwater fast movers are a common part of
life on board submarines. And I think when they say fast
movers they mean these things are moving way faster than
anything that can possibly be man made.
Just like we see, you know, in the atmosphere, high speeds.
Speaking to dailymail.com, Nigel Watson, author of Captured by
Aliens Question Mark, a history and analysis of American
abduction claims said We live on an ocean planet so it is not
surprising that UFOs are seen over or in the vicinity of the
great expanses of water that surround us goes on us as
concentrations of UFO sightings indicate bases in the North Sea
and off the coast of California and Puerto Rico.
Quote, Usos are as intriguing as uaps, but they are even more
difficult to substantiate and often get mixed with dreams
about Atlantis and aliens living in the hollow Earth.
Personally to me they are a myth like mermaids or the Loch Ness
Monster. Well that doesn't sound like a
very open minded approach to this to me.
Goes on. It has a picture of retired Navy
commander David Fervor here it says retired U.S.
Navy commander David Fervor. Who Fraver, Whether who famously
spotted the Tic Tac UFO in 2004, described how a fellow pilot had
revealed to him an encounter with a USO.
The pilot said he had seen a dark mass, which he described as
big and kind of circular, and was not a submarine.
Fraver told the Joe Rogan Podcast that the helicopter had
dropped a swimmer in the water to pick up munitions.
He said the first time they were out, they were going to pick up
ammunition. He's sitting in the front in the
Chapter 53. You can see down by your feet
and he's looking down there 50 feet above the water.
He sees this kind of dark mass coming up from the depths.
I have to tell you, I'd be a little bit concerned if I was
the guy that they're about to drop off into that water.
If there's a dark mass down there and I don't know what it
is, he's looking at this thing going, what the heck is that?
And then it just goes back down underwater.
Once they pull the kid and the munition out of the water, this
object descends back into the depths.
The pilot who was retrieving spent practice munitions out of
the sea in AUS Navy MH53 EC Dragon helicopter, said that a
practice torpedo he was sent to recover was sucked down into the
seas by another object. The torpedo never resurfaced.
The encounter occurred in the sea near Naval Station Roosevelt
roads on Puerto Rico, Flavor said.
We've talked about this before in Puerto Rico.
Some of the really strange going on sound that they have with
this underwater, underwater, unidentified objects that are
being seen and so little reporting being done on it.
And in the late 60s, heavy UFO traffic was seen at Guantanamo
base. An ex Marine said all of U.S.
Marines were amazed at the amount of UFO activity over and
around the base, the witness said.
Virtually every night UFOs were flying overhead with altitudes
of less than 300 feet. Most of these UFOs were
approximately 50 to 100 feet across, but to the naked eye
came off as a dull, hazy hull with a small red light trailing
behind it. The marine, who wished to remain
anonymous in an interview with the paranormal sighting website
MUFON, said that he was unsure of the exact dates.
The marine claims he was instructed not to discuss the
sightings and said he saw one UFO which looked like a big
beautiful cloud with a blue and white pulsating light.
Well you've heard of these things.
Camouflage against clouds before now here's one that talks about,
says underwater craft buses. USS Hampton submarine the Los
Angeles class fast attack submarine says USS Hampton a
craft moving through the water faster than the speed of sound
whizzed by a submarine. USS Hampton, a professor has
claimed. Now imagine that you're
underwater. I don't know what 23400 feet.
However, far, however far down these things go and you have a
craft whizzes by you faster than the speed of sound.
Professor Bob McGuire of Virginia Tech and the Institute
for Defense Analysis said the craft's onboard sonar detected a
USO moving through the water faster than the speed of sound.
McGuire was on the submarine doing classified work and says
that the crew opted not to investigate so as to focus on
their mission, but did not tell him that he could not talk about
the strange encounter. In an interview with YouTube
channel UAP Encounters, he said we were under way and all of a
sudden I heard a sound. It is really strange and clear
that something is wuzzing by us. When I left there with a
knowledge in my head, not having not having been told to be
quiet, not having been told it was classified, it is mine to
tell whoever I want. They blew it.
The encounter with the fast attack submarine lasted just a
few seconds, McGuire says. We can imagine this travelling
faster than the speed of sound. The underwater alien base off
Malibu. Alien hunters spotted what many
described as an alien base 2000 feet beneath the waves off
Malibu in 2014. When Google Earth prevailed what
appeared to be a structure beneath the waves, conspiracy
fans went wild. Well, we've got to get that
conspiracy term in there, don't we?
When Google Earth revealed what appeared to be a structure
beneath the waves, conspiracy fans went wild, UFO author
Preston Dennett said. I have collected probably 50 or
100 reports of people who have seen UFOs going in, in, in and
out of the water there. My problem is that the Google
images are coming out different depending on what viewpoint
you're looking at. This thing from.
Some show a tunnel, some don't. I'm very intrigued by the
possibility, convinced I'm convinced there's something down
there. Well, it's it's intriguing to
me, but really no surprise that Google would change the images
on these things. Most people, most people, start
to comment about them. Geologists, however, have
dismissed the idea that the structure is an alien base,
describing the structure as perfectly ordinary.
Of course, they don't want to tell us how it's perfectly
ordinary, do they? Lake Baikal in Siberia has been
the site of multiple sightings of UFOs and USO is beginning in
the Soviet era. Russian former Navy officer
turned UFO researcher Latimer Azasa said 50% of UFO encounters
are connected with oceans, 15 more with lakes.
So UFOs tend to stick to the water.
Azala has claimed that humanoid beings in strange shiny suits
were seen in the water by military divers in 1982.
And more recent years, photographers have captured
strange lights and mysterious craft over the lake, the
chairman of the Union of Photographers of Buriati, Sergey
Konoshenka, said in 2009. When I saw it, it was flying low
until it disappeared over the horizon.
I kept looking at it. I call it a fireball and what it
really was, I cannot know. Yeah, a lot of weird stuff
happening there in Bacall. We've talked about these
underwater aliens that were spotted, some of the strange
stuff that happens there. We'll have to revisit that at
some point. Some really interesting
different types of UFOs. Here we'll look at one more
article. This is from wwlp.com.
It says what flies in the air, zips through the ocean and
splits into scientifically investigating the Aquadela UFO
incident. And this is written by Duncan
Phoenix and George Knapp. It says what kind of aircraft
can travel not only through the atmosphere but also through
water at high speeds. Scientists who've analyzed
thermal images of a flying object recorded in Puerto Rico
are trying to figure out what could have done this A-Team of
analysts working with SCU, the Scientific Coalition for UAP,
Studies, a private group of scientists, military analysts
and investigators produce a report analyzing the incident.
It is a comprehensive review of thermal, visual and sensor data
related to an unusual series of events in and around Aguadela
Puerto Rico Airport in April of 2013.
And it's got like a 3 1/2 four minute video here of this UFO
almost like a black orb flying around, really weird Rich
Hoffman, one of the Co founders of SCUA, 26 year systems analyst
for the US Army, says the case information and thermal images
originated with a pilot who works for the Department of
Homeland Security. So this article here came out
like what, three years ago? And notice it's very similar to
some of the ones that we've had that have gotten a lot more
traction. But because it's in Puerto Rico,
because it's off the coast of the US, didn't happen within the
50, you know, American states, it seems like it just didn't get
that much of attention, it says. When Mystery Wire asked Hoffman
in a recent interview about the video, Hoffman said they tried
to pass it up their food chain, if you would, up to Homeland
Security. While the Homeland Security
said, well, we don't look into this stuff and you know you pass
it down. They also attempted to go up to
the Air Force Intelligence and Air Force Intelligence.
The research showed the pilots were told these agencies don't
want anything with UFOs anymore. So while they're telling you in
all these hearings that they've done everything they can to
investigate all this stuff, you see what's happening.
When they get a good case like this has been recorded, they
just ignore it and tell you that they don't want anything to do
with it. It says the pilots wanted the
video to be scientifically looked at, not UFO related
because again the statement goes along with UFOs, Hoffman said.
So we pulled the team together and we just got together and
said, well we're going to, you know, what do you want us to do,
sign a non disclosure agreement. And yeah, by the way, they have
done background checks on us to actually see that we could
actually come in and work on this very well.
And we pass that. And we basically honored the
fact that we're not going to talk about the witnesses names
and we're not going to give that.
But we wanted to do this scientifically.
Well, scientifically, the best thing to do would be to name
your sources and then we could have a real adult conversation
about this. But you can see these people are
so frightened and so intimidated, they don't want to
be deperson or whatever else. So they want to report the UFO
incident. They just want to do it
anonymously, which makes it a lot harder to verify this stuff.
Rich Hoffman has a long history in Ufology but also works for
the military. So right there I see a little
bit of a conflict of interest. In a wide-ranging interview with
Mystery Wire, Hoffman described how he got into Ufology and now
he balances it with his real job.
Hoffman also talks about how the Aguadilla UFO incident led to a
massive investigation with the SCU.
But here we are three years later we hardly hear about this.
The SCU spent two years analyzing 7027 frames recorded
in the three minute and 54 second video.
Since the SCU first published its report in 2015 by Chris
Clark, alternate theories have been proposed.
UFO debunkers allege the object was a Chinese Lantern sent aloft
by a nearby hotel. That's hilarious if you think
about it. So his incident apparently
happened back in 2000. What, 13 And ten years later, we
hardly hear about it. Two other, more detailed
analysis proposed that a Mylar balloon could explain some of
what is seen in thermal thermal images.
Also more nonsense. Hoffman and his colleagues
published detailed responses to the critics, arguing that any
counter theory must explain the full sequence of events, not
just bits and pieces. While talking with Mystery Wire,
Hoffman compared the Aguadila UFO to the famous Tic Tac
incident, a 2004 encounter off the coast of Southern California
involving USS Nimitz. Carrier group.
Mystery Wire asked Hoffman for his conclusion on his research,
to which he replied, well, what flies like this?
What splits into, which has two color temperature?
Which has this color temperature or this temperature range that
we're talking about? Obviously.
Obviously we looked at it and there's one bit in the beginning
of it. It looks like a tumbling bloom,
but you don't know. And that's how we look at it in
the visual range and the thermal range.
It could be completely different.
That could be the temperature changing around.
Did it look like it had any kind of indication of propulsion
system? Because guess what, the wind
speeds at that at the altitude that this thing was at was
everywhere from 15 to 18 miles an hour heading from north to
east to southeast. And this object was moving
around into the wind. OK, well, looking again for
propulsion, did you see any propulsion systems?
And then we said, could it be a balloon?
And what does that blowing look like in the thermal?
We actually have a friend of ours.
We reached out to Dave Walsh who was a flare technician and he
even had the West Cam camera and he went out and literally took
pieces, took pictures of a balloon, a mylar balloon type
thing and what it looked like in just a very small like 4 mile
per hour when and he had a tie down and this thing was going
like crazy every which direction and the thermal match was not
there at all. And by the way, have you ever
heard of a balloon splitting? Well, you know you get where I'm
going, right. So we then said, well, could it
be a bird, you know, Well, let's go look, we have pictures of
birds and thermal as well done. You know, so we keep going down
the list of things that could potentially be.
And one thing is that, you know, how many things split into two
identical pieces. See, it's kind of, I think he's
a smart guy. He's just kind of stuttering
through there a little bit. But what he's getting at is they
tried to replicate this with the balloon and the video does not
match up what the, the airport people sent them or the Air
Force people. This is a UFO, OK?
Balloons don't split in two. Balloons don't travel against
the wind. This is no drone could do with
this saying is it says. The conclusion they came to you
was the object was the object was witnessed by CBP and tower
personnel. There is no explanation for an
object kept capable of traveling underwater at over 90 mile per
hour with minimal impact as it enters the water through the
air, at 120 mile per hour at low altitude, through a residential
area without navigational lights, and finally to be able
to be capable of splitting into two separate objects.
No bird, no balloon, no aircraft and no class drones have that
capability. Well, it's amazing you have this
object then traveling out over the ocean, they see it go down
into the water, they're clocking it at 120 mile an hour.
It comes up out of the water. Doesn't make really any kind of
a disturbance on the water surface.
Flies along over the land, splits in two, all against the
wind. Yeah, that's not a drone.
It's not a balloon. It's not a butterfly.
During Rich Hoffman's interview with Mystery Wire, he went into
great detail about what the Aguadela case proves about UFO
investigations. He analyzed a Tic Tac UFO,
discusses what the Russians and Chinese might be studying, and
talks about Ted Phillips and investigation of the UFO trace
cases. And it's pretty interesting
article here, but it's got some great video on it.
I'm going to put the links on this on the Kofi and the Locals
website. You can take a look for
yourself. It's got an interview here with
Hoffman and also with George Knapp talking about this stuff.
So pretty good work actually. Before I close out, I just want
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