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Hello and welcome to the program
UFO. 

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Warning, today's topic. 
How put off? 

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That's correct. 
I'll put off now, he's an 

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engineer research scientist. 
Actually has done a lot of work 

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for the government. 
He's been associated with the 

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recent Senate intelligence 
hearings, where they talked 

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about these offworld vehicles. 
He's also partnered up with Tom 

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DeLonge. 
Now I got a message from one of 

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the listeners that I thought was
interesting and They asked if 

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I'd known that. 
How had reached at some point in

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his life, the highest degree of 
Scientology that a person can 

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attain and that got my attention
because I was under the 

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impression that that took 
decades to do and cost lots and 

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lots of money. 
Now, I don't really have any 

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contact other with Scientology 
other than I've got Our Kind of 

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a Funny Story. 
I used to know a guy has passed 

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away. 
He was a, it was a comedian 

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actually in La for a few years 
until his health started to 

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decline. 
And he came back to where we 

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left now and we would be hanging
out with friends and stuff and 

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he always had these great 
stories from La. 

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I mean he had 100 mm, he met 
actors and all different kinds 

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of stuff and he was really funny
guy. 

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The one story that he told that 
I don't think he ever really got

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the humor of, but I thought was 
just hilarious was at the time 

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that he got recruited into 
Scientology. 

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Now he goes and spends like he's
living in LA and he spends like 

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a five days in this recruitment 
process. 

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I guess where they bring these 
people in there. adding these 

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rooms and they do these tests 
ask me questions and it's 

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hilarious because like by Dave 
45 maybe five it was he tells me

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how he's tasked with putting 
together like this wood block 

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puzzle or something and and he's
explaining this guy straight out

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of Central, Casting he looks 
like a cross between Chris 

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Farley and I don't know. 
John Goodman, I mean, he's just 

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hilarious. 
Anyway, he's talking about 

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putting this puzzle together and
he can't get it. 

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So, finally, after a couple of 
tips they they call up on this 

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like this. 
I don't know 11, 12 year old 

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girl he says they're like hey 
Sally come here. 

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Can you show you know him how to
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And she basically just whips his
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seconds he's like, yeah he says 
you know, they would do stuff 

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like that. 
They would, they would give you 

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something to do if you Do they 
have a kid? 

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Do it. 
And I got to laughing about it 

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because I could just see this 
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it's 12 year old kid. 
And then he tells me that 

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shortly after that, they told 
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back. 
And that was hilarious to me. 

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So ever from that point on 
whenever we be somewhere and 

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we'd be hanging out and be like,
hey, tell them about the time 

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that you failed Scientology, any
be kind of get this sad. 

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Look on his face and be like, 
no, I really didn't fail. 

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I'm like, no dude, you failed 
Scientology. 

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So that's kind of the closest 
I've got to the whole 

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Scientology thing, but I do know
that they have a seem to have a 

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lot. 
Lot of interest, I guess it was 

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started by l.ron Hubbard, right?
And they have this whole thing 

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about the intergalactic Warfare 
and maybe Earth being kind of a 

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prison planet. 
So when The Listener told me 

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that how put I've had been into 
Scientology, I was curious about

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that. 
And so, I decided to do a little

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bit of background research on 
how, and I started off with 

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Wikipedia and it says, here 
Harold, he put off, born January

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twentieth, nineteen. 
Thirty-six is an American 

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engineer in parapsychology. 
Just in the 2010s, he co-founded

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the company to the, to the stars
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And he's really old guy 84s, his
occupation engineer, 

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parapsychologist and known for 
gravitational, and paranormal 

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research and says, in 1967. 
But I've earned a PhD in 

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electrical engineering from 
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He then worked with an invented 
tunable lasers. 

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And then An electron beam 
devices can concerning which he 

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holds patents and he is 
co-author with our pan tell a 

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fundamentals of quantum 
Electronics. 

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Those on it says put of took an 
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scientology's in the late 1960s 
and reached. 

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What was then? 
The top ot7 level by 1971, put 

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off road up, his wins for a 
Scientology publication claiming

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to have achieved. 
Remote viewing abilities. 

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A 1974, put off, also wrote a 
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Celebrity magazine. 
Stating that Scientology had 

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given him a feeling of absolute 
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Put a severed all connection 
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1970s, and then it says, in the 
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CIA Dia funded program at Sr i--
are National to investigate 

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paranormal abilities, 
collaborating with Russell, targ

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in a study of the purported, 
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Ingo Swann Pat price, Joseph 
Manali, - eagle and others is 

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part of the Stargate project. 
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convinced Geller and swarm, had 
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However Geller employed 
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put a founded, a for-profit 
company Earth, Tech 

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International and Austin Texas, 
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founded an organization 
Institution. 

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For advanced studies and Austin.
Also in Austin, Texas, where he 

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is director. 
Now, I found, I found the actual

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site of the company and if you 
go to the Twitter UFO warning 

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site, where you can get there by
going to at warning sub UFO, do 

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a follow back, you'll see a 
Google Earth image of this 

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pretty good sized building this 
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In in Austin, it's a little 
confusing though because there's

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also one in New Jersey, but I 
don't think it's got anything to

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do with him. 
It says, yes, this is 

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independent, but so he's got 
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This Think Tank, I guess you 
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there in Austin. 
That's something to keep in mind

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because how put off is connected
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Senator Harry Reid, Read and of 
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Now, it says here, put off and 
Earth Tech were granted a UF 

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were granted, a US patent five 
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five thousand two hundred twenty
and 1998 after five years delay,

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the claims were disputed. 
That information can be 

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transmitted through a distance, 
using a modulated potential with

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no electric or magnetic field. 
Components will almost sounds 

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like he's trying to. 
Trying to trying to patent. 

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You know, ESP here. 
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educational purposes in patent. 
Law is an example of a valid 

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patent where, quote, the lesson 
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any world were both types of 
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common, even a competent 
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May fail to distinguish 
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Now, the writing there's a 
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I could tell basically what 
happened is that put a put this 

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P, got a patent picking five 
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that amounts to ESP. 
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communicate information. 
A distance through a modulated 

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potential with no electric or 
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You don't plug it into a wall. 
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electricity. 
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So that's a very kind of It's 
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You don't have to infer, what's 
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Are so he's and he's patented 
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This this new type of 
communication that nobody can 

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understand and then for five 
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on it and says, you can't patent
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It's imaginary, it's 
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But what happens when he gets 
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All right. 
And somebody else gets your butt

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chewed basically, they took this
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other patent office employees. 
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Hey, even though this thing 
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and you can't disrespect people.
That's what you have to give 

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them their patent. 
That's what I'm taking from 

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this. 
That's really, really an 

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interesting incident incident. 
That happened back our 1998, 

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especially since we know that 
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This remote viewing stuff and 
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parapsychology stuff. 
Now we have If you go to the, if

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you go to the website you have a
warning.com, I have all the 

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links there and in fact you can 
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for The Institute for advanced 
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under the about section and this
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It says the institute for 
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founded in 1985 by Harold, put 
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And later Incorporated under 
Earth, Tech International in. 

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1991 is an Innovative research 
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creative staff dedicated to 
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of Science and Engineering. 
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theories of space time gravity 
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quantum vacuum, modifications of
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electrodynamics. 
Interstellar flight science and 

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the search for extraterrestrial 
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As these topics May apply to 
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propulsion and sources of 
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We strive to transmit these 
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experiments, and then it has 
some more stuff. 

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You're talking about the 
research, they do. 

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It sounds like they were doing 
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Tom DeLonge. 
Got his first computer plugged 

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in. 
I mean these guys are something 

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and put off is a smart guy. 
If you've ever seen him, he's 

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got their credentials, there's 
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Now I found also there is a 
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one, but they had a quote in 
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I was actually talking to him 
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I bought the whole UFO situation
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government had Had retrieved 
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And this is what he says, and 
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warning.com and you can actually
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It says, it says, quote detailed
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would be. 
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so, highly classified pieces of 
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There has been one leaked 
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I'll never know which is out 
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About some crashes that we were 
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It was a real document. 
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at least materials. 
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to be crash of an entire craft 
but it could be a piece of blown

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off whatever by a lightning 
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So I am not surprised to find 
out that there's discussion. 

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Of material being available. 
We've had an opportunity to look

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at some unusual material and I 
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will become more significant as 
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And the interesting thing about 
it was that I couldn't figure 

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out a very complex material, 
wow, this guy is a pretty 

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high-level PhD and he says And 
the interesting thing about it 

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was that I couldn't figure out a
very complex material so that 

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he's basically telling you that 
he can talk about this because 

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the papers been late, so he can 
do this without violating a 

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secrecy oath. 
So what he's saying is that we 

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do have material, at least one 
instance of it, he says we've 

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had an opportunity to look at 
some unusual material and I 

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think that is a big is a big 
area area that Will become more 

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significant as time goes on. 
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it was that I couldn't figure 
out a very complex material, 

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when you talk to people that are
doing this kind of research, All

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the, all the elements on the 
periodic table, it says, we know

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about all the elements on the 
periodic table. 

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So you are not finding some new 
element that you don't realize 

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is on the periodic table. 
No, it's more like putting 

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together, layers of various 
kinds of materials that you 

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wouldn't expect to be able to be
layered and the result of. 

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And the result at the end of the
day is that it has certain 

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unusual characteristics that you
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advance. 
So that is the kind of thing to 

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a physicist is the most 
interesting. 

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And they have some pictures here
of some of these different UFO 

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metamaterial that we've probably
seen before. 

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Where the stuff is just layered 
in either super thin layers or 

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as he said you're finding you're
finding metals that are Blended 

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or layered one on top another 
that you just don't find in 

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nature. 
It tells me that they've been 

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doing research on this stuff for
quite a while and this is the 

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kind of stuff that's going on in
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call them great projects, but 
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happening and a lot of it. 
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which I think happened, probably
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the US Navy to these outside 
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whether it's one of Bigelow's 
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Now, to the academy stars is the
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all the data surrounding it, all
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knowledge, as far as UFOs are 
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government databases and 
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for-profit, private companies. 
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we've got this new system of 
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develop this new UFO task force 
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biannual reports to Congress. 
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be bypassed by simply 
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private corporations. 
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whether it's Bob Bigelow, or 
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are super intelligent guys, a 
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up there in years right now, but
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highly classified work for the 
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they shift from that role, maybe
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scientist for a year or R2 or 
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just a private contractor. 
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important to understand because 
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some of these guys are. 
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that are, you know, necessarily 
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that they, they are sworn to 
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they can tell us but that The 
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interested me? 
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I guess you would say he's into 
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to UFOs. 
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psychological field, considers 
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Like I said before, when they 
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Harmonize. 
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reclassified these things from 
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kind of see how the physics that
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long with that. 
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understanding of these things 
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greater we saw that when we 
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physics and bring the engineers 
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they're at now. 
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moving right along. 
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of multiplication along Division
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understand at how much of a 
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When we as just normal everyday,
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individuals who not only Are 
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IQ, but, but basically can just 
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the Department of Defense to 
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they choose to choose to choose 
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say, he is a really interesting 
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Can you see more and more of the
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knowledge that we have about 
these things being Funneled into

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these for-profit companies. 
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You have to look out for because
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disclosure. 
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are they telling us something? 
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they just or is it just more 
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That's the skinny on output off.
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other interesting stories about 
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Connected to all the old timers 
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people. 
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field at the top of that field. 
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website UFO warning.com and I 
keep everything listed there and

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I think if you're interested in 
the podcast I've been programmed

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go there. 
At least get an idea of where 

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the websites at that way. 
If something but a happen where 

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you can't find the podcast 
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stay in contact. 
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I'm going to try to get a drop 
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people can send me videos. 
I had a really good video sent 

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from Montana waiting for that 
because I stupidly told that the

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fellow to send it to the Twitter
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that once you do that, it just 
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account. 
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download the video. 
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I'm learning how it lacks and so
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So I'm going to try to get that 
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gmail.com. 
So we can post some of the stuff

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I did. 
Put a put up a couple on 

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YouTube. 
You can go over there and look 

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on the YouTube channel you can 
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Some of the stuff that people 
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one from Montana it basically. 
Lee shows these three or four 

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orbs and you have the people in 
the background discussing, what 

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they're saying, this is the kind
of stuff that we're trying to 

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disseminate because this is how 
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We we video these things, and 
then we post them and then we 

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start talking about them. 
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a link to recently in Montana a 
square shaped UFO at these 

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things, been popping up to their
very Stranger in a very square 

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shape and that as opposed to 
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like I said, send it to the, you
can DM me on on Twitter and I'll

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give you instructions or send it
to the Gmail, or whatever. 

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And we'll try to start posting 
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I just find it fascinating. 
That's all for today. 

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So, until next time, this is UFO
warning over and out.