1 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,080 Hello, and welcome to the program UFO Warning. 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,640 In this episode, we're talking about an 18 and 97 cattle 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,040 abduction. That's correct, an 1897 cattle 4 00:00:12,040 --> 00:00:14,120 abduction. It's a lot of cool source 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,680 material on this and I put it over at the Buy Me a Coffee 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,480 website. As always, you can go over there 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,360 and look it up. And as always, thanks to the 8 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,360 folks that support the program over there and at Spotify and be 9 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,160 sure to like, follow and subscribe. 10 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:31,160 It doesn't cost anything, so I found a pretty cool short video 11 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,600 on it that you can look at, which I linked over there. 12 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:38,120 But then I also found this really cool article from UFO Nut 13 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,080 that goes into some pretty good detail on it. 14 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:46,280 It says Alexander Hamilton and the 1897 UFO Cattle Mutilation 15 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,720 Incident. This is written February 18th, 16 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:53,720 2016 by Chuck Sukowski. It begins by saying that 17 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,600 Alexander Hamilton, a local Kansas rancher, personally 18 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,360 experienced a UFO sighting which escalated into one of our most 19 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:06,000 documented cattle mutilation cases in 1897. 20 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:12,520 Then, it says, on April 23rd, 1897, the Kansas Farmer Advocate 21 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,200 published a story about a phenomenal event experienced by 22 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,600 Alexander Hamilton, a local rancher living in Kansas. 23 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:24,760 After the article was published, it was reprinted in newspapers 24 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:29,240 all over America and Europe in his book Anatomy of Phenomena by 25 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:33,560 researcher Jacques Valet. Back in 1965, Jacques brought 26 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,040 this article into the media limelight. 27 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,880 Later in years some publications, including Fate 28 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,960 magazine, concluded the event was a hoax due to Alexander 29 00:01:42,960 --> 00:01:45,960 Hamilton being part of an elite group of citizens known as the 30 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,920 Liars Club. Their information came from a 31 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,960 1943 article from a Kansas newspaper called The Buffalo 32 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:57,880 Enterprise in which Misses Donna Stevie of Wichita, KS wrote that 33 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:02,640 her 93 year old mother, Ethel L Shaw, when younger, had actually 34 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,760 heard the tale from Hamilton himself and he admitted it was 35 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,160 all a hoax. Now, you know, I don't mean to 36 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,760 doubt this moment, but sometimes stories like this, they come up 37 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,960 with these parallel narratives 4050 years later, and we really 38 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,080 never know if they're true or not, it says Here, Hamilton had 39 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:25,360 signed an affidavit notarized by 10 notable members of the 40 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,280 community of Leroy, Kansas, where they lived. 41 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:33,720 The affidavit was dated April 21st, 1897, and Hamilton staked 42 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,800 his quote, sacred, sacred honor, on the truth of the event. 43 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,720 Not to discredit Fate magazine and Ethel Shaw, but let's look 44 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,920 at Camilton's tale and then compare it to what happened in 45 00:02:44,920 --> 00:02:49,160 the general area of Kansas last year, December of 2015 and the 46 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,200 beginning of this year, January 2016. 47 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,520 Wow. So what he's doing here, I think 48 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,280 it's just he's going to compare these Catalmulations from 1897 49 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,440 and even before, and then compare that to what happened, 50 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,640 you know, 100 and what 1617 years later when these 51 00:03:05,640 --> 00:03:07,400 catalmulations are still going on. 52 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:12,600 He says his source here is the great airship mystery of this is 53 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,720 a UFO of the 1890s. Daniel Cohen. 54 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:19,040 And you can also see this at the video over there at the at the 55 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,840 at the Odyssey that I'd think to and buy me a coffee. 56 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,640 It begins here with the affidavit these guys signed. 57 00:03:24,920 --> 00:03:27,480 Pretty neat. It says last Monday night, about 58 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:31,520 10:30, we were awakened by a noise among the cattle. 59 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,760 I arose thinking that perhaps my bulldog was performing pranks, 60 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,280 but upon going to the door saw to my utter astonishment that an 61 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:44,360 airship was slowly descending upon my cat lot, about 40 rods 62 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,920 at 600 feet from the house. Now look, I'm going to do this. 63 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,000 I'll read a couple of paragraphs here in the background of these 64 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:52,800 airships. It's 1897. 65 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:57,200 Yes, airships had been invented, first one in 1852, but you have 66 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,600 to think about the tremendous expense of these things and the 67 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,080 limited range. Still 1897, so I think we can 68 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,400 safely rule out that this thing was man made and he goes on, he 69 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:11,440 says, calling my tenant GID Heslop and my son Wall. 70 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,120 We see some axes and rent to the corral. 71 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:18,120 Meanwhile, the ship had been gently descending until it was 72 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:22,240 not more than 30 feet above the ground and we came within 50 73 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,240 yards of it. It consisted of a great cigar 74 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:29,560 shaped portion, possibly 300 feet long, with a carriage 75 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,200 underneath. The carriage was made of glass 76 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,280 or some other transparent substances, alternating with a 77 00:04:35,280 --> 00:04:40,080 narrow strip of some material. It was brightly lighted within 78 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:41,600 and everything was plainly visible. 79 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,840 It was occupied by six of the strangest beings I've ever seen. 80 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,160 They were jabbering together, but we could not understand a 81 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,760 word they said. So that tells me that this thing 82 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,240 would have been pretty close if they can see the people were 83 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,960 entities in there walking about inside this cabin or whatever 84 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,320 this thing was. Every part of the vessel which 85 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,600 was not transparent was of a dark reddish color. 86 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,000 We stood mute with wonder and fright. 87 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,040 Then some noise attracted their attention and they turned the 88 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,360 light directly upon us. Immediately on catching sight of 89 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,280 us, they turned on some unknown power and a great turbine wheel 90 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,760 about 30 feet in diameter, which was revolving slowly below. 91 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:27,840 The craft began to buzz and the vessel rose lightly as a bird 92 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,240 when about 300 feet above us it seemed to pause and a hover 93 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,360 directly above a 2 year old heifer which was bawling and 94 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,880 jumping apparently fast in the fence. 95 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,960 Going to her we found some material fastened in a Slipknot 96 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,280 around her neck and going up to the vessel from the heifer 97 00:05:45,280 --> 00:05:48,920 tangled in the wire fence. We tried to get it off her but 98 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,600 could not. So we cut the wire loose to see 99 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,480 the ship heifer at all rise, slowly disappearing in the 100 00:05:55,480 --> 00:06:00,000 northwest. So in the in the video they 101 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,920 talked about how he sent the hired hand over to try to cut 102 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,680 this calf loose. He said it was attached to this 103 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,560 cable which was attached to the ship. 104 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,440 The hired hand goes over, but instead of cutting the cable, it 105 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,400 cuts the fence itself. Next thing you know this poor 106 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,720 calf is being drawn up into the ship, he says. 107 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,400 We went home, but I was so frightened I could not sleep. 108 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:25,640 Rising early Tuesday, I started out on my horse, hoping to find 109 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:29,800 some trace of my cow. This I failed to do, but coming 110 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,080 back in the evening found that link. 111 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:36,520 Thomas, about 3 or 4 miles West of Leroy, had found the hide, 112 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,000 legs and head in his field that day. 113 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,440 He, thinking that someone had butchered a stolen beast, had 114 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,760 brought the hide to town for identification, but was greatly 115 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,360 mystified not being able to find any tracks in a soft ground. 116 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,080 After identifying the hide by my brand, I went home. 117 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,960 But every time I would drop to sleep I would see the cursive 118 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,320 thing with this big lights and hideous people. 119 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,120 I don't know whether they are devils or angels or what, but we 120 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,920 all saw them and my whole family saw the ship and I don't want 121 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,040 any more to do with them. Now that's a pretty interesting 122 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,040 story. It goes on here. 123 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,240 It says analysis of the story. The description of the craft 124 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:19,360 mimics airships of that time period, the first flown by Andre 125 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,400 Gifford in 1852 which was steam powered. 126 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:27,120 OK, I'm not sure really because he talks about this cigar shaped 127 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,360 UFO and these people walking right inside of it. 128 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,800 If you look at pictures of the old well this thing that was 129 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,560 that was produced by Henri Gifford in 1852. 130 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,200 It First off it talks about it just being like a bag of air 131 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,600 basically. It does have this like I think 132 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,800 it's like a £350 steam engine basically below us. 133 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,400 So it did create quite a bit of lift, especially for 1852, but 134 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,080 the maiden voyage that I read about it only flew like 20 135 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:53,720 miles. It's got, you know, ropes 136 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,400 dangling off of it. It looks like it looks like a 137 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,480 like a steampunk work of art. Really. 138 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:00,920 It's it's hard to make it even fly. 139 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,720 But apparently it did. We get into the Zeppelin stuff 140 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,040 now these things are super expensive. 141 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:11,080 I from when I've read $3,000,000 to build the first one, you 142 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,680 could imagine who would even be able to afford to do that in 143 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,080 Kansas, you know, in the 1890s. And the Zeppelins didn't come 144 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,280 along until I think around 18971898. 145 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:22,640 We're going to look at an article on that here in a 146 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,360 minute. Anyway, it goes on and says it 147 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,720 consisted of a great cigar shaped portion, possibly 300 148 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,320 feet long. Cigar shaped UFOs are still 149 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,480 being seen today as at this writing course the authors 150 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,640 talking about 2016. The National UFO Reporting 151 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:41,240 Center has eight listings so far in 2016 from Seattle, WA down to 152 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,880 Eagle River, Arkansas with two separate sightings reported in 153 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,600 Joplin, MO. There's over 2500 cigar shaped 154 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,240 cases reported on this website and we've talked about them a 155 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:53,880 lot. You know, when we do the UFO 156 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,960 roundups, they're still seeing these cigar shaped UFOs even 157 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:58,360 today. It goes on. 158 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:02,680 It says animal mutilation at the airship picks up a cow, and then 159 00:09:02,680 --> 00:09:06,640 cow parts were found three to four miles West of Leroy and 160 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,840 appeared to have been dropped due to leaving no tracks and the 161 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,360 soft ground. If that story wasn't enough, in 162 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:17,880 volume 38 #11 of Fate magazines, issued November of 1985 was 163 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,680 printed a story called Cattle Killing UFO of 1896. 164 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,760 One year before Hamilton's story, in August of 1896, in 165 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,880 Howell County, Missouri, a family experienced a UFO 166 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,360 encounter, the excerpts from the Fate magazine article read. 167 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,400 It says All at once we saw flashing lights. 168 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:39,280 At first we thought they were a star shower, but the star stayed 169 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,280 in a circle as if they were all strung together like bees. 170 00:09:42,680 --> 00:09:46,200 The circle of lights just kept whirling and falling toward us. 171 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,400 I ran to my mother and clung to her skirts, crying and shaking 172 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,040 so hard that I could barely stand. 173 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,400 It stopped and hovered over the barn. 174 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,040 We can now see it was a large saucer, like craft. 175 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,200 It's lights were blinding. The whole barn lit up like day. 176 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:05,480 Remember 1896? My father grabbed up the baby 177 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,440 who was sleeping on a pallet, and we fled into the house. 178 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,280 The next morning when Ben took his dog Cappy and went out to 179 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,800 the pasture to bring up the milk cows as he always did, he came 180 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,040 running back to the house, scared out of his wits. 181 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:22,080 In a large patch of burned grass were three of our steers laying 182 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,640 dead on the ground. The father then examined the 183 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,520 stairs and noticed they were completely drained of blood 184 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,160 before back in 1896 or finding these things drained in blood. 185 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,000 Then it goes on and says for a complete version of the article 186 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:38,400 please contact Fate magazine. Wow really neat real animal 187 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:42,080 mutilation cases consisting of the following It says animals 188 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:46,760 picked up at a location A, then mutilated at location B, then 189 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,760 placed at location C We see this all the time. 190 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,600 Animal found with usual lesions and lack of blood. 191 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,000 Animal appears to have been dropped or placed. 192 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,680 No animal struggle evidence found, no predator takedown 193 00:11:00,680 --> 00:11:05,320 evidence found, no human evidence found, no tracks of any 194 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,760 kind. Sometimes strange lights are 195 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,520 seen in the area before and after the mutilation. 196 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:12,920 Yeah, I think a lot of time people misinterpret these as 197 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,800 helicopters, he says. So we have two possible 198 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,520 mutilation cases occurring in 1896 and one in 1897. 199 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,120 Both talk about a purposed UFO and both sightings result in 200 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,760 cattle deaths. But wait, there's more to this, 201 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,240 it says. And then it says. 202 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:33,600 The Hamilton mutilation occurred at around 38° by 95 and then the 203 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:37,160 Missouri around 36 by 91. So they were basically straight 204 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,800 across from each other. On December 21st, 2015, it says 205 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:46,000 KWCH News 12 out of Kansas reported a Newton KS rancher 206 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:50,120 found one of his bulls dead 1/4 of a mile into his pasture on 207 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,760 the 18th. The animal sex organs have been 208 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,000 removed. The Harvey County Sheriff's 209 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,240 investigated the incident and found no traces of cause of 210 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:02,720 death and it's classifying this as an animal cruelty case or non 211 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,040 animal related. So in other words they looked at 212 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,160 this thing and they could see that it wasn't a predator taking 213 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:11,880 this thing down. On January 2nd, 2016 Harvey 214 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,800 County Sheriff's Department Facebook page stated another cow 215 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,000 had been found dead in McPherson County, Kansas. 216 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,920 It's eyeballs have been removed. Other similar damage mimicked 217 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,760 the Newton case. And so then, you know, basically 218 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,080 it says you have 4 cases here he goes on and talks about his own 219 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,360 cases he found and he gives a region here kind of from 220 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:36,040 Colorado over to Central Missouri, down from the extreme 221 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:42,000 northwest corner of Iowa, maybe getting into Kansas. 222 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,840 There it's almost like this kind of a hot spot area for cattle 223 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:49,200 mutilations. He concludes by saying obviously 224 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,440 there's been a lot of research by good people on the Hamilton 225 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,720 airship case and the overall consensus is he indeed lied. 226 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,160 But what if he didn't? How accurate is a second hand 227 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,560 witness testimony? If it's just it's just 228 00:13:01,560 --> 00:13:03,800 circumstantial evidence which allows for more than one 229 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:05,400 explanation. Did he lie or did he in fact 230 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,800 experience an experimental airship stealing one of his 231 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,200 cows? Or did he see something else? 232 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:15,320 Well, I mean this is 2016. This guy does a lot of good 233 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,080 work. I really respect his opinion. 234 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,320 I'm not sure he lied. I mean, yeah, the, the 235 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:24,800 granddaughter, whatever came forward. 236 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,480 But look, there were multiple people that said they witnessed 237 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,960 this thing and then you have this dead, mutilated calf that 238 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,560 was apparently turned in, was reported at least by the 239 00:13:33,560 --> 00:13:37,720 newspaper. So I have to ask, I mean how 240 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,880 could this lie have held up for 43 years? 241 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,720 I mean, he makes report in 1947 and then what was it, 1943 or 242 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,040 something? They come along with a parallel 243 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,320 narrative saying, OK, well, he belonged to the Liars club. 244 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,800 This is all made-up. It seems to me like somebody 245 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:56,440 would have uncovered this a lot sooner than, you know, 46 years 246 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,960 later. Another thing that leads me to 247 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,000 think that this is true. Like I said, you have the 248 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,920 evidence of this mutilated calf, if that. 249 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,280 If nobody found the calf, surely somebody would have come 250 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,280 forward. I mean, he names his neighbor as 251 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,320 having turned this calf in to the to the sheriff. 252 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:16,080 So who mutilated the caftan? If this is all just made-up and 253 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,800 at some point, wouldn't one of those hired hands come forward 254 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,880 and said something? I mean, you would have had to 255 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:25,040 imagine there was some bit of public derision and criticism 256 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:26,840 over this. It's hard to imagine that you 257 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,120 could have held a conspiracy like that together for so long. 258 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:34,600 I mean, we know how long it is. It's extremely difficult when 259 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,480 you get more than 3456 people together, you know, lying about 260 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,160 the same thing since his family saw it. 261 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,640 Well, wouldn't somebody else in the family come forward at some 262 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,800 point and say something? Would it take him 43 years? 263 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,600 I mean really I have to look at this saying yes, I know it's 264 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,720 really weird to think of us UFO coming down, but I also think 265 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,520 it's really weird this guy would just make this up and get all 266 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:58,120 these other people to go along with it and manufacture the 267 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,200 evidence by mutilating this this calf himself. 268 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,840 I don't know posing it there somehow overnight for his 269 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,840 neighbor to find it. I think it seems like the the 270 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:12,960 longer the more time that's that has that has expired between the 271 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,600 sighting and where we're at like 40-50 years, the easier it 272 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,760 becomes to disparage the account and cast out on it. 273 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:21,720 Myself I have to go with the evidence on this. 274 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,680 We have multiple eyewitnesses. We have affidavits for people, 275 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:30,160 you know, verifying that he's of a good character And then 43 276 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,480 years later or 46 years later, we have someone come along and 277 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:36,240 say no, I heard differently. So this is definitely a strange 278 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,560 case, but it's surrounded by many other mutilation case much 279 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,440 just like this. Now I just want to take a look 280 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:46,640 at what is involved in making an airship in 1897 because 281 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,360 sometimes we hear people say, well, this is a man made 282 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,840 airship. Is that even a possibility? 283 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,160 Now, looking at this whole notion of whether or not people 284 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,520 could have had dredgeables that could do this sort of thing back 285 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,680 in 1897, it doesn't seem likely to me. 286 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,440 I mean, we can look at botanica.com where they're 287 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,000 talking about the, you know, the creation. 288 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,960 The first invention of these, dredgeable tells us that the 289 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:15,200 first successful airship was constructed by Henry Gifford of 290 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:19,920 France in 1852, and Gifford built, it says, a £350 steam 291 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:24,160 engine capable of developing 3 horsepower, sufficient to turn a 292 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,040 large propeller at 110 revolutions per minute. 293 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:32,480 To carry the engine away, he filled a bag 140 feet, 144 feet 294 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:38,280 long with hydrogen and ascending from the Paris Hippodrome, flew 295 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:43,040 at a speed of 6 mph to cover distance of 20 miles. 296 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:44,760 So it was kind of a one off thing. 297 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,400 It wasn't like he's flying around, you know, the middle of 298 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:52,160 Kansas somewhere looking for heifers to pick up. 299 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,240 I'm not seeing the kind of control here demonstrated by 300 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:58,840 this UFO that was reported by this Alexander Hamilton in 1897 301 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,960 and then tells us In 1872 a German engineer, Paul Hanlon 302 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,480 first used an internal combustion engine for flight in 303 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,160 an airship that used lifting gas from the bag of fuel. 304 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:12,319 In 1883, Albert and Gaston Tenzadier of France became the 305 00:17:12,319 --> 00:17:16,160 1st to successfully power an airship using an electric motor. 306 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:20,480 The first rigid airship was a hull of aluminum sheeting was 307 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,440 built in Germany in 1897 and that, says Albert de Santos 308 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,359 DuMont and Brazilian living in Paris, set a number of records 309 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:31,400 in a series of 14 non rigid gasoline powered airships that 310 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:36,640 he built from 1898 to 19 O 5. So you had these things you 311 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,720 know, in Europe, not really talking about them in the United 312 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,760 States in 19 and you know 1897. But Even so he describes this 313 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:48,480 thing as being this giant cigar shaped craft that you could look 314 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,240 into. Not like a giant bag, you know, 315 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:56,360 like a cloth bag of air or thin aluminum sheeting where you had 316 00:17:56,360 --> 00:18:00,840 a gondola hanging from it. It's like he's talking about 317 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:06,720 like an actual shift that is control, very precisely going up 318 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,480 and down and that can lift this, this heifera. 319 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:13,840 From there, what he's describing is, you know, it has about as 320 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:19,440 much in common with an airship. Let's say a jetliner would today 321 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:23,800 with a Wright Brothers aircraft, what he's describing as way, way 322 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,960 further advance than anything that was available even in 323 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,720 Europe at that time. So he's describing an actual 324 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,440 constructed spaceship. It's clearly it's not one of 325 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,640 these, you know, cloth bags filled with hydrogen. 326 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,000 And then it goes on talks a little bit about the 20s and 327 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,080 30s. We have another article here 328 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,080 from New York Times. It says it's talking about the 329 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:49,360 Zeppelin and this, the cost of of how much it it was to rebuild 330 00:18:49,360 --> 00:18:51,200 this thing. I mean, we're talking about 331 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:52,360 millions and millions of dollars. 332 00:18:52,360 --> 00:18:53,880 I'll post that. You can take a look at it. 333 00:18:54,240 --> 00:19:00,760 And then finally we have an article here talking a little 334 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,320 bit more about the history of some of these things and the 335 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,040 first Zeppelin and how much it cost. 336 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:10,120 I mean, it was so expensive that we had to have people in the, in 337 00:19:10,120 --> 00:19:15,800 the, in the noble class had to mortgage their estates to fund 338 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,480 these things. I mean, you're talking about 339 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,760 what would be the equivalent of millions of dollars today. 340 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,160 If you look at the history of the Zeppelin itself, it actually 341 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:28,720 didn't come around to 1898. And if you look at this article 342 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,000 on airships.net, it will tell you it says that the first 343 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:36,320 Zeppelin's LZ one through LZ four, and this is probably the 344 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:41,000 closest thing that would approximate what what this 345 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,920 Alexander Hamilton claimed to have seen. 346 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,400 It says Count Ferdinand von Zeppelin began construction of 347 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:51,160 his first airship, LZ One, in June of 1898 in a floating 348 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:55,800 wooden hangar on Bonisce Lake Constance at Mansell Frederick 349 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,160 Schaffen in southern Germany, not far from the Swiss border. 350 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,880 The movable floating shed allowed the ship to be 351 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,440 positioned in the wind to enter or leave its hangar. 352 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,880 So you had to have really specialized places, even the 353 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,320 land the same, it says. The ship was completed in the 354 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:14,400 winter of 1899. But von Zeppelin decided to wait 355 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:19,160 until the summer of 1900 before attempting to fly his invention. 356 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:23,160 The ship was inflated with hydrogen gas in June and made 357 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,080 his maiden flight on July 2nd, 1900. 358 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,160 The first flight lasted about 18 minutes and covered about 3 1/2 359 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,360 miles over the lake. So clearly this thing's not 360 00:20:33,360 --> 00:20:35,760 flying any kind of great distances. 361 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,880 And clearly it didn't even take flight until 1899 or 1900, 362 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,000 rather the summer of 1900. That's three years after the 363 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:47,720 sighting in 1897 or 1896 there in Kansas or Kansas and 364 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,960 Missouri. Rather, it says the LZ loose 365 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,880 shift. Zeppelin One was 420 feet long, 366 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:59,160 38 1/2 feet in diameter and contain approximately 399,000 367 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,560 cubic feet of hydrogen and 17 gas cells. 368 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:08,000 Made a rubberized cotton fabric, 2 metal gondolas or suspended 369 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:13,040 below the ship, one forward and one aft, and each gondola housed 370 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,760 A4 cylinder. Water cooled Daimler gasoline 371 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,200 engine producing about 14 horsepower. 372 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:23,720 Each engine was connected by long shafts to Outrigger 373 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,760 propellers mounted on either side of the hull. 374 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,440 Pitch was controlled by a sliding weight suspended under 375 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,160 the hull, which could be shifted for an aft. 376 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,400 There were no elevators for pitch control or fins or 377 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,320 stability. So you're talking about 378 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,440 something that even though it might have been really super 379 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,480 advanced for its time, it's still really primitive, 380 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:50,320 especially when you consider what the Experiencers swore that 381 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,840 they saw in this UFO encounter in 1897. 382 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,800 The Count's second ship was was not built until five years later 383 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:02,200 with funds partly raised from a lottery approved as a favor by 384 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:07,280 the King of Wittenberg and partly by the mortgages of Count 385 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,800 Count of Zeppelin's family estates. 386 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,520 So that kind of gives you an idea. 387 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,080 Yeah, like I said, I read this thing into Tatay's dollars would 388 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,800 have been like $3,000,000 to build this thing. 389 00:22:18,120 --> 00:22:20,920 So we're not talking about somebody putting together a 390 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:26,360 ultralight in their garage, OK? It's just goes beyond any scope 391 00:22:26,360 --> 00:22:28,880 of believability for me that this thing could have been 392 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:33,440 floating around in Kansas in 1896 and 1897 for someone to 393 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,800 see. And even if it was OK, even if 394 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,960 we give the debunkers the benefit of the doubt and go 395 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,480 clear out on a limb here and say, well, some random Kansas 396 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,840 farmer had invented this dredgeable 3 years before it was 397 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,880 it was built there in southern Germany. 398 00:22:51,120 --> 00:22:54,520 Even if we go out on a limb and say that, it still doesn't match 399 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,520 the description of what the experience just saw. 400 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:01,360 What they saw was this cigar shaped UFO and they talked about 401 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:06,320 seeing and hearing entities walking around inside of this 402 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,360 thing. Strange stuff even in 1897. 403 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,080 Until next time, this is UFO Warning Over now.