1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,800 Hello and welcome to the program UFO Warning. 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,480 In this episode we're talking about when UFOs kill. 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:15,200 That's correct, when UFOs kill. Now the first article I found 4 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,480 was over at Reddit. I had to run this article 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,040 through the ChatGPT grammar corrector because there were 6 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:23,960 some issues in it and I wanted to make it more readable. 7 00:00:24,240 --> 00:00:29,560 But still a real decent article written here by Crafty Meeting 8 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,920 9367. I think it says four years ago 9 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,920 it was supposed to. And I was drawn to this post on 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:39,160 Reddit also because of some of the original documents that they 11 00:00:39,160 --> 00:00:41,000 had included. And we'll get to those in just a 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:42,800 second. But the article they wrote 13 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,840 starts off it says the mysterious and shocking case of 14 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,600 Sergeant Jonathan Lovitz abduction. 15 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:54,000 In March 1956, Sergeant Jonathan P Lovett and Major William 16 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,720 Cunningham were sent to collect debris from a missile test at 17 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,600 White Sands Proving Ground near Holloman Air Force Base in New 18 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,640 Mexico. The two men travelled by Jeep to 19 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,120 the sand dunes to investigate the aftermath of a recent 20 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,680 explosion. Upon arrival, they split up to 21 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:15,360 search for wreckage. Moments later, at a Cunningham's 22 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:19,280 line of sight, Lovett let out a blood curdling scream. 23 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,880 Cunningham scrambled up a nearby dune to see what happened. 24 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,880 At first he assumed Lovett had been bitten by a snake common in 25 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,360 that area, but what he saw defied explanation. 26 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:37,360 Lovett was being pulled by a cable attached to his leg, which 27 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,400 was connected to a hovering disc shaped craft. 28 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:42,920 Now this just sounds awful to me. 29 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:44,960 Just to imagine being out there, walking in the desert, this 30 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:50,760 young airman, and having this craft drop this cable down, 31 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:55,920 snatch him up by the leg, this would be terrifying, It says the 32 00:01:55,920 --> 00:02:00,400 object was silver, with a disc like shape, rounded edges and 33 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,400 flat vertical tips hovering silently about 20 feet above the 34 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,320 ground. Cunningham had watched in shock 35 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:11,400 as Lovett was dragged into the craft, which then accelerated 36 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,560 skyward, kicking up sand and leaving a circular mark in the 37 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,520 dunes. Cunningham rushed back to the 38 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:23,200 Jeep and radioed the base. However, the air base reported 39 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,880 no unusual radar activity in the area. 40 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,560 In the following days, suspicion initially fell on Cunningham 41 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,400 himself. Investigators theorized that he 42 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:36,480 had murdered Levitt and buried a body in the dunes, but no traces 43 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,200 of blood, footprints, or any evidence of human activity were 44 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,560 found. The circular mark left by the 45 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,240 craft was quickly erased by windblown sand. 46 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,680 On the third day of the search, a horrifying discovery was made. 47 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:56,680 Lovett's body was found 10 miles from the base, mutilated in ways 48 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,640 that defied conventional understanding. 49 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,720 His eyes had been removed. His tongue had been extracted 50 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,920 through the jaw. Identification was only possible 51 00:03:05,920 --> 00:03:07,640 through dental records and hair samples. 52 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:13,040 A deep incision ran from his chin down to the esophagus and 53 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,240 larynx. Most disturbingly, his genitals 54 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,640 have been surgically removed and his anus was dilated, exposing 55 00:03:20,640 --> 00:03:23,000 internal organs through the rectum. 56 00:03:23,640 --> 00:03:27,240 The autopsy suggested that most of his blood had been drained 57 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,760 mechanically. A hemorrhagic injury would have 58 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,280 shown vascular damage, but none was found. 59 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,640 Even the scavenger birds that had attempted to feed on the 60 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,240 body were found dead near their corpse. 61 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,960 It's kind of reminds me of these cattle relations when in those 62 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,680 cases though, it seems like the animals have enough instinctual 63 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,720 urge not to even try to feed off the dead cattle. 64 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,360 But maybe they didn't recognize that this was a same type of 65 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,320 victim of this human. The Air Force launched A 66 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,800 classified investigation resulting in a document 67 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,640 allegedly known as Project Drudge Report 13. 68 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:07,080 Said to be over 600 pages long, it aimed to uncover the truth 69 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,120 behind the incident. Though the US government denies 70 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,920 the existence of this report, conspiracy theorist William 71 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:17,320 Cooper and former Air Force Captain William English claimed 72 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,240 to have reviewed parts of it. According to Cooper, a former 73 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,960 member of Naval Intelligence, the report was internally 74 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,200 referred to as a Blue Book and was still classified as 75 00:04:27,280 --> 00:04:31,240 inconclusive and secret well into the 1970s. 76 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,200 Wow, now that's a strange story if true. 77 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:39,200 They've got some, they've got some images of some reports 78 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:40,160 here. They've got some pictures of 79 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,000 this area that base older pictures here. 80 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:47,760 It says Project Blue Book reports one and two. 81 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,960 And then if we go to the reports, it says on this 82 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:52,920 supposed report now we don't know here. 83 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,640 This says that it's First off it's stamped secret and then 84 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:59,040 that's crossed out and then it's put unclassified under it. 85 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,520 Published by the National Investigations Committee on 86 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:13,320 Aerial Phenomena, NICAP, it says Albuquerque, NM 25 August 1951 87 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:21,560 On the evening of August 25th, 1951 at 2158 MST, a Cindy, a 88 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:25,880 based security guard and his wife observed what they 89 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:30,280 described to be a flying wing type aircraft similar to the 90 00:05:30,280 --> 00:05:35,840 Northrop Fly Wing Bomber B 49 pass over the backyard of their 91 00:05:35,840 --> 00:05:39,040 trailer home in the east part of Albuquerque. 92 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:43,560 They judged the wingspan of the aircraft to be about 1 1/2 times 93 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:47,200 the wingspan of AB36 with which they were familiar. 94 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,120 The object was flying low, the altitude was thought to be about 95 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,960 800 feet to 1000 feet and there was no sound that could be 96 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,200 attributed to the object. The collar of the object was not 97 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,400 apparent due to the twilight, but but dark stripes were 98 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:05,240 noticed under the wings. 6 to 8 pair of soft glowing lights were 99 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,640 noticed on the trailing edge of the wing. 100 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,560 The speed was judged to be about 300 to 400 mile per hour and the 101 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:16,040 object was on a heading of approximately 160°. 102 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,600 And then it says weather broken clouds 17,000 feet, visibility 5 103 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,640 miles, winds S at five mile per hour. 104 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,880 Status of investigation The possibility of this being a 105 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,240 known aircraft was checked with negative results. 106 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:33,400 The AC and W radar stations at Kirkland Air Force Base did not 107 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,160 observe any unusual or unidentified aircraft. 108 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,680 The guards background was checked and since he was AQ 109 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,120 clearance it was assumed that he is mentally stable. 110 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,920 The photo taken of the V shaped object at the Lubbock, TX C 111 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,840 Appendix One says were sent to Albuquerque. 112 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:55,000 They were shown to be. The sources by the OSISI sources 113 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,840 stated that arrangements of lights on the object they saw 114 00:06:57,840 --> 00:07:01,280 was similar to the photo they sketched in the wing as they saw 115 00:07:01,280 --> 00:07:03,600 it. An investigation was made to 116 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:07,960 determine whether or not anyone else had seen the object, but 117 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,480 they but only negative results were obtained for the evaluation 118 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:16,760 of this incident depends on the outcome of attempts to establish 119 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,160 the authenticity of the Lubbock photos. 120 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,680 Now that's weird. That kind of gives you a little 121 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,040 bit of background. We'll go ahead and I want to 122 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:28,680 look at this other article talking about this UFO abduction 123 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,080 and just basically a flat out murder that happened. 124 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,080 This is from mysteriousuniverse.org. 125 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,200 Now they've got a really lengthy article here with multiple 126 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,880 cases. The UFO phenomena encompasses a 127 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,720 wide range of strangeness, from various inexplicable aerial 128 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,000 phenomena to alien encounters, to abductions. 129 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:52,080 It all launches itself out into the fringe at times. 130 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,800 Despite this, it is not typically a field associated 131 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,640 with death. However, over the years there 132 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,080 have been many mysterious deaths that are in one way or another 133 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,880 linked to UFOs. Well, I think just considering 134 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,520 the cattle mutilations right there and all the missing people 135 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:07,960 might be something else to keep in mind. 136 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,600 One of the earlier and most bizarre deaths supposedly 137 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:16,480 related UFOs is the 1956 case of Air Force Sergeant Jonathan 138 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,360 Lovett. So we had this very strange 139 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,320 windy UFO spotted in 1951. Five years later, then we have 140 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,120 this UFO death of Jonathan Lovett. 141 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,360 In March of that year, Lovett and Major William Cunningham, 142 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,320 both of the Holloman Air Force Base in New Mexico, ventured out 143 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,360 into the desert, into the desolate desert scrub to collect 144 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,559 fallen debris from a recent missile test at the White Sands 145 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,919 Missile Test Range. And at one point, Lovett went 146 00:08:42,919 --> 00:08:46,400 off behind a dune. A few minutes later, Cunningham 147 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,320 reportedly heard Lovett scream out in terror and he ran to 148 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,360 investigate. What he saw next would cause him 149 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,000 to scream as well. According to Cunningham, after 150 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:01,120 going over a Ridge he was met with the sight of a large 151 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:06,320 silvery disc shaped object hovering around 15 or 20 feet in 152 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,600 the air, which had a long snake like object trailing from it. 153 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:16,160 To this to his horror, he saw that this appendage was wrapped 154 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,240 around the leg of Lovett and in the process of pulling him 155 00:09:20,680 --> 00:09:25,280 toward the strange craft. At this moment Cunningham report 156 00:09:25,560 --> 00:09:29,720 that he had been somehow inexplicably paralysed, wanting 157 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:34,120 to take action but unable to move as he watched his friend 158 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:38,520 get pulled and reeled into the object, after which it speed off 159 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:43,040 at breathtakingly great speed. As soon as it was out of sight, 160 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,440 Cunningham found himself released from whatever had kept 161 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,880 him frozen there. After radioing missile control 162 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,320 and telling them what had happened, he was told that they 163 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:57,120 were indeed picking up a radar signature moving rapidly, but 164 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,760 that they were not able to tell what it was. 165 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,960 So we have a case here where they are showing the radar 166 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,200 signature before or five years earlier when this kind of 167 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,480 similar UFO was reported, they were saying that there weren't 168 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,280 any. So kind of it's weird how these 169 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,600 things kind of blink in and out. Security forces and soldiers 170 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,560 immediately descended upon the area and a massive search began, 171 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,280 which would go on for three days without finding a single trace 172 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,040 of the missing man. In the meantime, it was 173 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,320 suspected that Lovett had been the victim of foul play and that 174 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,440 Cunningham was responsible. His wild story is simply a 175 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:36,400 cover, and he was detained on the third day of the search 176 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:40,640 after meticulously scouring 100 square miles of the landscape. 177 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,880 Lovett's body was found around 10 miles from where he had gone 178 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:49,120 missing, and his corpse was in a horrifying state. 10 miles. 179 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,360 That would be a pretty good ways to walk, I would think, out 180 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,320 there in the desert like that, besides being completely drained 181 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,800 of every drop of blood. Now think about that. 182 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,400 Just like the cattle, all the blood's gone. 183 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,400 There was no sign of vascular collapse, meaning that he had 184 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:09,120 not died of bleeding to death, which was very unusual for 185 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,200 someone who had been drained of so much blood. 186 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,960 An incision had been made in Lovett's lower jaw through which 187 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,240 his tongue had been removed. This exact same thing we see 188 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,880 with the cattle, a cut which extended from the tip of the 189 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:27,120 chin down to his larynx. His anus and genitalia had been 190 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,920 expertly removed as if from a plug, and his eyes had been 191 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,920 taken out smoothly. The body showed no signs of 192 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,720 decomposition despite being estimated to have been lying out 193 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,040 there in the desert heat for one or two days. 194 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:44,000 And and almost oddly of all, there were found to be dead 195 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:48,240 scavengers nearby that had apparently died after trying to 196 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,480 feed on the body. None of it made any sense at all 197 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:55,040 and still dozen. This particular incident has its 198 00:11:55,040 --> 00:12:00,120 origins in alleged report called Grudge slash Blue Book Report 199 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,680 13, which is mysterious in many ways in and of itself. 200 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:08,320 The manual in question was supposedly analyzed by an 201 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:12,160 information analyst for the US Air Force and former Green Beret 202 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:18,200 named Bill English and is allegedly dated 1953 to 1963. 203 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:25,520 Upon the coverage written, the code AFSN 2246-3 and the words 204 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:30,840 TOP SECRET need to know only Crypto clearance 14 or above 205 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,000 required stamped on it in red ink. 206 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,880 Since it is unknown if this document ever really existed or 207 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,240 not, and the information given by Bill English is only 208 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:45,680 preserved in his notes and in his memory of what he read, is 209 00:12:45,680 --> 00:12:50,360 unknown if the report is real or whether the Lovett case ever 210 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,760 really happened in any sense at all. 211 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,160 And so it remains shrouded in mystery. 212 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,480 Now that is a strange one. It's one of these things where 213 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,400 there's been so many years past and there's been so much cover 214 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,760 up that you kind of wonder just what in the heck really happened 215 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,240 there. We'll go ahead and take a look 216 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:08,840 at another case show that's similar to this. 217 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:13,800 It says in June of 1972, railway employees at a station near 218 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:18,520 Trasa, Barcelona, found in the early morning hours the 219 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:22,560 decapitated bodies of two men. This was shocking enough as it 220 00:13:22,560 --> 00:13:26,440 was, but would become even stranger when they found cotton 221 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:30,880 balls grasping their dead grips and a note on the one of the 222 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,280 bodies that read. The extraterrestrials are 223 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,680 calling us. We belong to Infinity. 224 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:40,960 This short writing was signed WKTS 88. 225 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,440 The investigations performed by the Police Department found that 226 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:48,760 the bodies had been decapitated as they placed their heads over 227 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,280 the railroad tracks and they belong to Jose Felix Rodriguez, 228 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:57,920 Ontario and Joan Truvalle's. It was all macabre, 229 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,040 sensationalized news at the time, but it got even more 230 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,520 deeply disturbed because the investigation continued. 231 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,440 There would be found reams of letters and notes in the man's 232 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:12,800 position that were written to Ufologist Marcus Leggett, the UN 233 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,520 and two friends living in Zarazu who were UFO nuts. 234 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:21,200 The letter to Leggett read UFO Nuts or maybe UFO enthusiasts 235 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,600 and then they have this letter that says, dear Sir, for a long 236 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:27,240 time now we have been in direct contact with those beings which 237 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,680 in one way or the other, you and other Earthlings have been 238 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:34,520 studying the extraterrestrials. They have been mutating us 239 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,560 slowly, however not on the same dates. 240 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,240 Please understand, like us, we are all strangers on this 241 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,600 planet. From there they are calling us 242 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:46,040 and we have a long time ago identified them as your friends. 243 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:50,320 We are leaving filled with immense joy which we had never 244 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:51,880 known. We are headed toward the 245 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,000 galactic center. At our homes you will find some 246 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,960 writings, some data and notes which will serve to teach the 247 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,200 unbelieving Earthlings. You're not one of them. 248 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,920 That sentiment life, that sentient life expands throughout 249 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,640 the infinite universe from an indefinable God. 250 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,600 We know that you will believe the moment you read them, since 251 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:14,400 you know that if our passion would have been popularity, we 252 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,080 would have obtained it a long time ago. 253 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,600 That's weird. So apparently these folks have 254 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,360 gotten so tied up in the UFO thing that they think if they 255 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,760 kill themselves, they're going to go off to join the the 256 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,600 aliens. Kind of reminds me of the cult 257 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,440 that happened in California there a few years ago. 258 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,000 Definitely wouldn't recommend that. 259 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,280 Goes on and says, what are we to make of these of these of this 260 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,280 case? Were these two men in contact 261 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:40,080 with aliens or were they 2 UFO nut jobs who killed themselves 262 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:41,960 in pursuit of some delusional fantasy? 263 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:47,160 Another bizarre case occurred in 1979 when 2 hunters in the Bliss 264 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:51,280 and Jerome area of Idaho were out hunting when they stumbled 265 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:55,520 across the mostly nude body of a man sprawled out there in the 266 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,520 middle of nowhere. When the hunters drew closer, 267 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:02,400 they could see that the dead man was only wearing underpants, but 268 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:06,080 what really caught their attention was that the man had 269 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:10,960 been horribly mutilated with his sexual organs removed, his lips 270 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:15,440 cut off with surgical precision, and several organs removed with 271 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,920 similar expert cuts. What made it particularly odd 272 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,440 was that although the country was rugged, with many sharp 273 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,680 rocks and thorns, the man's bare feet were not scuffed, scraped, 274 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,280 or scratched in any way. They were in pristine condition, 275 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,920 even though the nearest Rd. was miles away. 276 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,960 There were also no footprints around the corpse and no tire 277 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,320 tracks. How had he gotten there through 278 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,760 the rough landscape miles from the road in his bare feet, 279 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,520 without a single cut or scratch, and someone dumped him there? 280 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,520 How or why would they have carried him out there without 281 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,880 leaving a trace? And why had they mutilated the 282 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,200 corpse? Authorities were notified and 283 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,840 scoured the area but could find no clues, and it was over a week 284 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,960 later that they found the man's possessions many miles away from 285 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,640 the body and similarly in the middle of the woods. 286 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,000 It certainly sounds very much like a classic cattle mutilation 287 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,680 scenario, and all the more so important that the region where 288 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,319 the body was found had experienced several UFO reports 289 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,839 and reports of cattle mutilations at around the same 290 00:17:18,839 --> 00:17:21,560 time. Well, that's some scary stuff. 291 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,560 Yeah, definitely. How would this guy have gotten 292 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,480 there if there's no tracks in the, you know, in this rough 293 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,440 train and he sits out there with no shoes on? 294 00:17:30,120 --> 00:17:32,760 Weird. Then it says some mysterious UFO 295 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,800 deaths have managed to become almost legendary beyond their 296 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,440 own circumstances. These are the strange unsolved 297 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:42,280 deaths that are orbited by various weird clues that have 298 00:17:42,360 --> 00:17:47,080 never been solved, which serve to repel them into the a whole 299 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,920 other realm of bizarreness. As the speculation and 300 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,080 discussion go, one of the most talked about strange deaths that 301 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:56,920 has managed to become firmly entrenched within UFO lore is 302 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:01,280 that of a humble, cool miner in England who would turn up dead 303 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,200 under some very strange circumstances and was passing, 304 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,560 and whose passing has managed to take on a life of its own to 305 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,960 become one of the greatest unsolved mistress out there. 306 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,680 And we've talked about this Ziggman, Jan Amesky before on 307 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,360 the podcast. And just last week we talked 308 00:18:15,360 --> 00:18:19,320 about another experience here. Who was the police officer 309 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:24,360 involved in that case? Sigmund Jan Adamski was a Polish 310 00:18:24,360 --> 00:18:28,800 immigrant who in 1960 had moved to the quaint small town of 311 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,560 Tingley, near Wakefield in Yorkshire, England. 312 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,800 A coal miner by trade, he had a rather simple life, and there 313 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,600 was not that much that was particularly remarkable about 314 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,160 him. He and his wife, Leo Cadia were 315 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,800 well liked by enough of their neighbors, but other than the 316 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,120 wife's multiple sclerosis, they were for the most part. 317 00:18:48,120 --> 00:18:51,760 And assuming that is, until June 6th, 1980, when Amske would 318 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,080 carve out a place for himself in the annals of strange, 319 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:55,880 unexplained disappearances and death. 320 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,680 That day was the eve of his goddaughter's wedding and the 321 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,480 family was full of good cheer, looking forward to the 322 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:03,880 festivities of the following day. 323 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:09,480 It was in good spirits that around 3:30 PM, Adamski went off 324 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,000 to do some shopping for the next day's lunch. 325 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,720 As he made his way toward the market, he passed some neighbors 326 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,200 who would say that he seemed to be in a good mood with nothing 327 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:23,240 seeming to be odd, yet this would be the last time anyone 328 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,280 would see him alive. When Adamski did not return that 329 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,480 evening, his wife saw it as strange as the market was just a 330 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,760 short walk away from the road. It had been a perfectly pleasant 331 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,400 day and her husband had not mentioned making any other stops 332 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,600 for errands as the minutes turned to hours as she finally 333 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,320 contacted police to report him missing. 334 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:46,080 It was soon found that he had indeed made it to the market in 335 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,600 Wakefield and and had bought his groceries, with the clerk saying 336 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,480 he had seemed to be in a cheerful mood. 337 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,200 But after that no one seems to have seen him. 338 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,520 A sweep of the area turned up no sign of him. 339 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,920 No one had talked to him, and it looked as if he had just 340 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,840 evaporated into thin air. He had been happily married and 341 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,680 looking forward to his goddaughter's wedding, so it 342 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,280 didn't seem as if he would just run off without a warning. 343 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,880 And although his health had deteriorated in recent years due 344 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,640 to his heavy smoking, he was still mostly able to get around, 345 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,000 so it didn't seem likely that he had just gone off somewhere to 346 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,600 die. With no clues and no leads as to 347 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:26,040 where he had gone, it was just assumed that he had wandered off 348 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,600 and would come back. He never did, and it would not 349 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,560 be until five days later that his fate would be revealed. 350 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:37,000 On June 11th 1980, a coal worker by the name of Trevor Parker was 351 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,720 doing his rounds at Tomlin's coal yard in the town of Todd 352 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:45,360 Merton, around 30 miles away from Tingley, when he saw 353 00:20:45,360 --> 00:20:49,480 something quite grim at the top of a 12 foot high heap of coal. 354 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,880 There, splayed out face up above, was the body of a dead 355 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,680 man and when police noticed it was soon ascertained that this 356 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,840 was the missing Adamski. There were numerous strange 357 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,000 clues immediately apparent when authorities were right on the 358 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,080 scene. Although he was well dressed in 359 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,880 a suit, his shirt was missing, as were his wallet and his 360 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,720 watch, and his trousers and shoes seemed to have been put on 361 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,640 very crudely, as if they had been taken off and then put back 362 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,360 on by a child who didn't know what they were doing. 363 00:21:20,360 --> 00:21:23,280 And the suit jacket was also oddly misbuttoned. 364 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,960 This has happens a lot but seem like what these people are found 365 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,960 missing and then when we find him it's pretty clear they 366 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,560 didn't dress themselves. It's like these things are being 367 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,320 staged. All of it was curiously lacking 368 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,720 smears of coal dust, as if he had been carefully placed there. 369 00:21:40,120 --> 00:21:43,760 The wallet and watch might have been taken after death, but why 370 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,880 would anyone take a shirt or remove his trousers and shoes to 371 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,040 put them back on again? And how he gotten up there? 372 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,560 Yeah, I would say maybe he was dropped up there. 373 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,320 There's also the positioning and condition of the body. 374 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,920 It was lying face up on that formidable pile of coal. 375 00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:01,840 It's a big pile of coal. How'd this little guy get up 376 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,280 there? As if he had just tried to take 377 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,760 a nap? Yet there was no sign that 378 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,960 anyone had climbed up or down it. 379 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,880 The coal was undisturbed. There was also no sign of 380 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,200 physical injury, struggle or foul play. 381 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,640 Indeed, he was described by officers on the scene as looking 382 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,080 peaceful, like he just got into bed, was fast asleep. 383 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,240 Now, I've also read though that he had a pretty awful look on 384 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,400 his face, like he'd been frightened to death. 385 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,640 The only marks that could be found on the body were a series 386 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,240 of tiny burn marks on the back of his head, neck and shoulders, 387 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,800 as well as some minor scuffs on his palms. 388 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,040 But it would not be determined what had caused this. 389 00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:43,720 Making those burns even stranger. 390 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,040 Was that some sort of yellowish gel like ointment had been 391 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,560 slaughtered on them? Like maybe he was hooked up to 392 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:50,680 something? I don't know. 393 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,720 But the coroner cannot determine just what the ointment was. 394 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,240 Adamski himself was found to have been well fed when he died, 395 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,240 despite being missing for 15 days, and called the hospital of 396 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:04,840 the area. It showed that he had not 397 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,440 checked in anywhere, nor was there any sign that he had been 398 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,160 living like a tramp on the streets. 399 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,560 Well, if he opened his stomach up, I wonder what was in it as 400 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,640 his clothes were impeccably pressed and clean as a day. 401 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,920 He had left his home and also he had only one day's worth of 402 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:25,160 beard growth. Now he's gone 5 days and he's 403 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:26,880 only got one day's worth of beard growth. 404 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,040 Boy, you wonder. So where had he been at the 405 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,160 time? Police Constable Alan Godfrey 406 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,480 and that was a fellow. We talked about his own alien 407 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,680 abduction experience, pronounced Adamski had died of a heart 408 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,960 attack, but this did not did little to answer the mirrored 409 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,920 questions surrounding the body. Where were his belongings? 410 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,040 How did his body get to the top of that pile? 411 00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:50,680 What were the burns and where had he been for the last five 412 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,360 days? A corner examination could not 413 00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:57,600 conclusively find an exact cause of death and was forced to go 414 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,640 with a heart attack theory for lack of any evidence. 415 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,600 Otherwise, all that could be determined for sure was that 416 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:09,400 Adamski had likely died a day before his body had been found, 417 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,680 and that the burn marks seemed to have been inflicted 2 days 418 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,760 previously. Theories flu. 419 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:20,160 It was surmised that they that he may have suffered some sort 420 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,440 of shock after sustaining the mysterious burns, after which he 421 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,800 had become disoriented and climbed to the top of that coal 422 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,320 pile to look around, finally dropping dead. 423 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,640 Yet there was no sign of anyone having climbed a pile, nothing 424 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,120 to see there anyway, and the man who had found the body would 425 00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:40,000 swear that it had not been there just hours earlier. 426 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,440 There was also no evidence at all that Adamski knew anyone had 427 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,040 Todd Murdin and no clear reason why he should have been there in 428 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,560 the 1st place. Another theory was that he had 429 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,080 been kidnapped and then finally killed and put on top that coal 430 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,120 heap. But why dispose of the body 431 00:24:56,120 --> 00:24:58,040 there? And how did they do it? 432 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,040 Was it lured with a crane? If that were If that were the 433 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,240 case, wouldn't someone notice that? 434 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,440 It did not take long for speculation to veer off into the 435 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,000 bizarre, as a lot of people were noticing that the area of Todd 436 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:15,080 Merton was a hotspot for UFO activity, and there indeed had 437 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,440 been a flap of sightings right around the time Adamski had 438 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,560 disappeared. Rather bizarrely, the very same 439 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,160 police officer who had first come to examine the scene of 440 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:29,160 Adamski's death, Godfrey would have his own very weird 441 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,200 encounter with the other worldly when he claims he had been. 442 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,960 He had seen a UFO and experienced 30 minutes of 443 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,720 missing time. The subsequent hypnosis session 444 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,560 would be pretty creepy to say the least and he would say well 445 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,760 under. They are horrible small, 3 to 4 446 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,680 feet, like 5 year old lads. There are 8 of them. 447 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,880 He's touching me, he's feeling out my clothes, they have hands 448 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,600 and heads like a lamp. They keep touching me. 449 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,000 They're making noises. Joseph. 450 00:25:57,120 --> 00:26:00,520 I know him as Joseph. He has told me not to be 451 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,000 frightened. They are robots. 452 00:26:02,360 --> 00:26:04,360 They're not human. They are robots. 453 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,200 They are his. They are Joseph's robots. 454 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,840 There's a nobody. There's a bloody dog. 455 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,520 It's horrible. The size of an Alsatian. 456 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:14,640 It's a big dog. Yeah. 457 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,080 What terrible memories to have to deal with. 458 00:26:18,360 --> 00:26:20,040 Oh, I don't know. And then it goes on and says. 459 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,920 Whether this was anything to do with Adamski's death or not is 460 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,520 unclear, but the idea here is that a UFO abducted him, 461 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,360 performed experiments that left the burn marks behind, and then 462 00:26:30,360 --> 00:26:33,200 killed him, perhaps even accidentally, by giving him a 463 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,400 heart attack, after which they had redressed him and lowered 464 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,520 the body onto that coal pile where it would be found. 465 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,600 The media would take the UFO angle and run with it, splashing 466 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,640 out headlines that suggested Adamski was killed by aliens, 467 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,320 and this went a long way toward sensationalizing it all and 468 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,400 mudding the waters. Indeed, because of this, the 469 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,320 strange case of Sigmund and Amski would in later years 470 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,360 become more well known as a UFO case. 471 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,440 Then it's that of a mere mysterious death, and with so 472 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,720 many strange clues and lack of any further evidence, it has 473 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,000 remained a favorite theory among many. 474 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:08,440 Well, I mean, what do you expect? 475 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:13,280 You've got all these people who are seeing UFOs around and then 476 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,200 all of a sudden this guy shows up on top of coal pile 477 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,880 inexplicably. In more recent years, there have 478 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,760 been some little bits of new information that have come in. 479 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,360 For instance, there have been evidenced by John Hanson and 480 00:27:24,360 --> 00:27:28,000 David Sankey before the British UFO Research Association that 481 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,200 Dinsky might have been involved in a bit of family feud with his 482 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,360 cousin and her husband, leaving open a motive for foul play. 483 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,680 Yeah, we've covered that. And to me, that's not plausible. 484 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,320 It doesn't explain how this guy got on top of that coal pile. 485 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,080 Not, not whatsoever. Perhaps one of the most famous 486 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,280 cases of an apparent case of mysterious, inexplicable human 487 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,680 alien mutilation occurred in Brazil in 1988. 488 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:56,840 At the time Guerra Perongo Reservoir was found the body of 489 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,400 a man who was in a very strange state indeed. 490 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,040 Although it was determined that the person had been dead for 491 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:07,160 several days, there was no smell when it should have been 492 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,960 redolent with the stench of decay. 493 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,960 No noticeable decomposition, and there was no sign that the body 494 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,240 had been fed up on by the scavengers or even insects. 495 00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:21,840 Upon his body were found to be numerous smooth round holes, and 496 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,160 the man's lips, eyes, tongue and ears had been cut away with 497 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,360 expert precision, not torn or ragged in any way. 498 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,040 Other tissue and organs had been removed as well, for reasons 499 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,480 unknown, and there were other anomalies in addition to all 500 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,160 this. The coroner tasked with 501 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,000 examining the body would later say of it. 502 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,160 Although the victim had been dead for 48 to 72 hours, there 503 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,560 was no sign of being eaten by animals or starting to rot. 504 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,480 As would be expected. There was no smell. 505 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,720 Bleeding from the wounds had been minimal. 506 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,840 The lips inflation from the face had been cut away. 507 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,560 The eyes, ears, tongue had been removed. 508 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:03,080 Neat round holes, 1 to 1 1/2 inch is in diameter, had been 509 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,240 made in the shoulders, arms and head, stomach and anus, and 510 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,680 tissues and muscles had been extracted. 511 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,280 The holes had not been made through which extensive 512 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,360 digestive organs have been extracted. 513 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,600 The scrotum, but not the penis, had been removed and all pubic 514 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,920 hair had disappeared. The rectum had been cord out. 515 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,800 Despite these devastating mutilations, there was no sign 516 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,360 that the victim had been bound or had struggled in any way. 517 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:37,120 Wow, that is really disturbing. The mysterious body was 518 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:41,560 photographed and the pictures shown to Doctor Goes a Rubens, 519 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,040 who concurred that it was all very odd indeed and seemed 520 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,240 inexplicable by normal definitions. 521 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,880 It was also pointed out by an associated Rubens that the 522 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:55,160 mutilations on display with the mysterious body had many of the 523 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,680 same hallmarks of the more well known cattle mutilations, such 524 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,360 as a lack of decomposition, organs seemingly selectively 525 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,200 removed, precision, almost surgical cuts, and anomalous 526 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,920 holes bored into the corpse. It appears that the dead man was 527 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,680 never identified, and a strange death from then on had many 528 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,040 questions surrounding it. Who or what did this to him? 529 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,960 Why was there no decomposition? Why were some organs missing and 530 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,680 not others? And why had they been removed so 531 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,080 cleanly and precisely? Why had those holes been made in 532 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,360 the body? Why hadn't the victim struggled 533 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,480 or shown signs of being detained? 534 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,760 What happened to him and who was he? 535 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,240 We probably will never know. Yeah, I know that terribly awful 536 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,320 case. I want to go ahead and look at 537 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,400 this last case here. It says another case involved by 538 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,680 UFO investigator Don Ecker supposedly occurred in 1989, 539 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,120 when Ecker was contacted by the ufologist and Cali cattle 540 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,880 mutilation expert Debbie and Bill Nell of the Long Island Sky 541 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,080 Watch organization, who came with a very strange story 542 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,520 indeed. Nell claimed that he had been 543 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,160 contacted by an assistant medical examiner from 544 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,360 Westchester County, New York, who was familiar with Nell's 545 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:09,240 work and needed some advice on a mysterious set of corpses that 546 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,040 had arrived at 2 morgues in New York and one in Connecticut at 547 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,480 around the same time and in the same grim condition. 548 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,280 Nell would claim that the three mysterious corpses had been 549 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,200 mutilated by removal of the face, genitals, eyes, parts of 550 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,080 the stomach, the rectum and thyroids all in exactly in the 551 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,520 same way and apparently on the same night. 552 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,040 According to Ecker, these corpses coincided with a number 553 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,920 of animal mutilations that were occurring in New York and 554 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,280 Connecticut at the time, and the medical examiner who had 555 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,400 contacted now had allegedly claimed that the instance had 556 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,720 been immediately concealed from the media and public. 557 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,920 The main theory was that these relations had been carried out 558 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,560 by some sort of satanic call, which is also often put forward 559 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,360 as an explanation for the cattle mutilations. 560 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,440 But Ecker would disagree, saying the satanic explanation was 561 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,280 examined and, according to the the reporting witness, did not 562 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,560 hold water. After having been personally 563 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,440 involved in an investigation of cattle mutilations as a police 564 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,640 officer back in 1982, I was very familiar with the cult theory of 565 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,160 perpetrators. The Idaho Department of Law 566 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,640 Enforcement drags it out every time there is a rash of 567 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,160 mutilations. The problem is, and everyone is 568 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,040 aware of it, that no one has yet been brought to trial or 569 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:26,440 arrested yet for these crimes. Here in the West, people know 570 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,400 that you are flirting with a rancher's bullet if you are 571 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,920 caught fooling around with a rancher's cattle. 572 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,800 They are his livelihood and he will defend it. 573 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,080 Yet the mutilations keep occurring and no one is either 574 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:43,760 wiser or are they? Wow, that is just crazy. 575 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,920 That goes on and has a few more cases here. 576 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,760 Really A long very well written article goes into a lot of 577 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,800 details. It seems like we have a 578 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,800 commonality with these cases with these these poor souls 579 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,600 being abducted. It appears like having these 580 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,520 horrendous experiments or procedures done to them and then 581 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,240 being dropped off in the middle of nowhere. 582 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,800 With the exception of the case where it looks like the two 583 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,320 people. Two of these really sadly 584 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,680 confused people thought that by committing suicide they were 585 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,840 somehow going to meet up with the aliens that had that killed 586 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,040 themselves in the river tracks here. 587 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,160 It looks like, wow, that's some crazy stuff came and imagine 588 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,320 that. But basically when you see these 589 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,960 cases where these we're talking about where these and we say the 590 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,120 UFOs, what happens when UFOs kill people? 591 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,480 Well, it seems to me just like the same thing pretty much with 592 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,800 the animal mutilations or humans are treated just like animals. 593 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,480 And maybe there are more cases of this happening, but we don't 594 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,000 know about it because there is an intensive cover up happening 595 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,560 and the media just won't cover it at all. 596 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,280 And so you have to dig around on these, on these obscure sites on 597 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:48,800 the Internet to even find this stuff. 598 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,680 And when you do find it, sometimes it's hard to track the 599 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,400 evidence back to the source code. 600 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,720 We're doing the best we can. Until next time. 601 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,600 This is UFO warning over now.