Hello and welcome to the program UFO Warning.
In this episode, we're talking about an egg shaped craft at
Area 51. That's correct, an egg shaped
craft at Area 51. Now, I'd recommend that you hold
on tight because we're about to enter some high strangeness, as
they say. This article is from
dailymail.co.uk. The title says Secrets of Area
51, a metallic egg shaped UFO the size of ASUV was kept at the
highly classified Air Force Base in the 1980s.
Whistleblower claims Eric Taber, defense aerospace contractor for
13 years, told dailymail.com an egg shaped metallic UFO kept at
Area 51 in the 1980s. He revealed the story His late
great Uncle Sam Erkehart. That's spelled Urquhart.
An Area 51 contractor told him about a UFO at the mysterious
desert base. Taber testified in May to the
Pentagon's UFO Investigation Unit, who are collecting
accounts of alleged government possession of non human craft.
And I've been critical of these guys as far as their efforts to
collect reports, but maybe they've gotten one here.
Let's see. So articles by Josh Boswell for
dailymail.com stated December 11th, 2023.
They begin by saying an egg shaped metallic UFO was kept at
Area 51 in the 1980s at Whistle World, claims an exclusive
interview with dailymail.com. This sounds like some of the
some of the Bob Lazar stuff that we've heard.
Engineers at the Nevada Air Base claimed the CIA found the
strange craft in the desert and brought it to them for
investigation, but later shipped it to another base after they
were unable to get inside the object.
You know, I have a little issue right there.
I mean, the CIA found it in the desert.
For one thing, the CIA is not supposed to be operating inside
the United States. And secondly, what do they have
CIA agents, you know, walking around out in the desert out
there? I don't know.
But it does give you an idea of how compartmentalized this stuff
is and how many different tentacles of the Deep state we
have out there trying to grab this stuff and pick it up.
Now, the CIA shipping this stuff to an Army base, that's also
questionable to me. It seemed like these guys would
just hang on to anything that they had.
Eric Taber has been a defense aerospace contractor for 13
years and has held a security clearance to work on military
aircraft, it says. In an interview at
dailymail.com, he revealed the story.
His late great Uncle Sam Erkehart, an Area 51 contractor,
told him about a UFO at the mysterious desert base.
And then it has a picture of him here with his uncle.
It's got, it's got a illustration of this craft.
It's kind of this large egg shaped craft.
I don't know, big enough for a couple people to get into.
I suppose just sitting there in the desert.
I mean it. That's a cool picture.
And it says a rendering of the metallic egg shaped UFO scene.
X-rays couldn't penetrate it. It showed up on X-ray as a solid
object. They tried to open it and
penetrate this whole. They couldn't, Taper said.
That's the first thing they want to do.
They want to penetrate it. I mean, who knows?
This thing could be some kind of an explosive, for crying out
loud. But you know, that's our
government going right in there, just pounding away at this
stuff, OK? It says.
Taber testified in May to the Pentagon's UFO investigative
unit, the old domain anomaly research office, who are
collecting accounts of alleged government possession of non
human craft. The claim, though?
An unverified story from a now deceased witness.
Now that's not correct. This is this is hearsay.
That's the legal definition of the story.
The story may or may not be from the deceased witness.
The deceased witness of course, is deceased and no longer able
to tell us whether this guy just made this up or if he actually
imparted this information of this young man.
Anyway says has a long history of rumors about potential extra
craft or futuristic spaceships stored at the Nevada Desert Air
Base near Groom Lake north of Las Vegas.
The news comes after whistleblowers told Congress the
government has a secret program to capture a crash or landed non
human vehicles and has for decades been attempting to glean
technological insights from these alleged out of this world
objects. The claims have prompted
lawmakers to draft legislation to disclose any such programs
currently working its way through Congress.
Taber spoke to dailymail.com only about his great uncle.
Story declined to comment on any of his own work as a defense
contractor. He said he struck up a
friendship with his grandmother's brother after
moving to the West Coast from Mississippi in 2012.
The younger engineer said he repeatedly quizzed Erkelhardt on
the truth about rumors of aliens at Area 51 and was always
brushed off. But one day, Erkehart relented.
My great uncle served in the Air Force for 28 years, E8 rank
equivalent to a first Sergeant, Tabor told dailymail.com.
He told me he worked at Area 51 from 1997 until 2014.
Well, first rank, it says to a first Sergeant, so that's better
than being a grunt. But that's not like even, you
know, at really at officer level, say Lieutenant or captain
or whatever. I mean, I know that much, I
don't know a lot about the military, but I know that that's
not that far up the food change. I mean this is a kind of, this
is a kind of ranking you could achieve without going through
you know formal education, whether you know military school
or university or whatever. I think when you get out of
university, if you join the military, typically you go in
and was a first Lieutenant someone can somebody can correct
me on that, but I don't think he go in as a Sergeant.
I don't think Erckhart began his job at Area 51 working for
defense contractor EG and G, which later partnered with
Raytheon to become JT Three LLC and subsequently JT 4 LLC.
He was head of security for his engineering group and a data
configuration specialist. His group did radar across
section testing and then it has a badge here that his uncalled
good and says Ukart gave Tabor a badge with his department's
Insignia with symbols, alluding to the role working on radar
signals at the Area 51. It's got some radar little
towers there with zeros and ones and a lightning bolt and a kind
of a silver orb in the middle of it.
It says measure analyze project. Now, I mean I'll put these at
the Buy me a coffee website and at the Kodash fight a Comma site
and you can take a look at him and if there's if there's
anybody out there in the military they can, they can let
us know if this seems legit or not.
He goes on and says I kept asking him about UFOs.
He said I know nothing. Then one day we were on his back
porch and he said, OK, I'll tell you about one craft that I knew
of, he said. When I first got there in 1997,
I had a personal conversation with a senior EG and G engineer
whose group was tasked with trying to reverse engineer an
object that was brought there by some CIA people in the 1980s.
It was supposedly just found in a remote desert location, fully
intact. The senior EG and G engineer
described to my to my great uncle that it was egg shaped,
about the size of an SUV. Smooth and seamless, metallic
looking, silverish Gray in color, with no control surfaces,
no flaps, no inlet, no exhaust, and no writing or symbols on the
outside. These are the best and brightest
engineers you can think of. They tried, to no avail, to
figure out what the power source was, how to achieve it, and how
it works. They tried to induce electricity
to it. X-rays couldn't penetrate it.
It showed up on X-ray as a solid object.
They tried to open it and penetrate its hall.
They couldn't. They said they were able to get
some very small samples of the material, and I'm not an expert
in chemistry, but I guess from the isotope ratio or the mixture
of the elements they concealed, it was not made on Earth.
Well, I'm not sure how they could get samples, so they
couldn't cut it or scrape it or scratch it or anything like
that. But this, that's what they say.
And we've heard about this lots of times with stuff, you know,
being discovered as implants, how the isotopes show up and
they're not of this world. That's what I'd be really
interested in the government doing is doing some real serious
research on some of these implants which always seem to
disappear or or just get ignored or debunked.
Now it has a it has a copy of the interview he did here, which
is nice picture of the kid. It says Taber said he decided to
come forward to push for limited disclosure and what he believes
is the truth about non human craft in the government's
position. Limited disclosure.
I'm not sure really if that's what we need because once you
start limiting disclosure, and that's another euphemism I
think, for controlling the narrative, Taber said.
Erkwatt told him. Eventually the craft was shipped
to another base, possibly White Sands Missile Range in New
Mexico, and that was the last the engineers heard about it.
But Erkwatt Hart had one more shocking twist in his story.
My great uncle would collect radar data and bring it into
secure vaults to catalog and store it, Tabor said.
He was in one of these secure data vault storage rooms in the
main control building nicknamed the Taj Mahal, when on the wall
he saw an up close, crystal clear photograph of the exact
same object that the senior engineer had discussed.
Tabor shared pictures with dailymail.com that Erkelhart
showed him, including a group photo with this area 51 engineer
colleagues in a brake trailer at the base and an Insignia packs
designed for their radar analysis group.
I don't know. I kind of have a hard time.
Someone's going to have a picture of this top secret item
setting up in a, you know, the a radar vault room.
If if this is what's going on, things are are are way more
jacked up than what we realize. But the alleged smoking gun
photo of the egg shaped craft never left Area 51 vault.
Yeah, that sounds a little too wild for me.
I don't know. I'm just going to put it out
there for you, Sam said the American people would probably
never get to see it, Tabor told dailymail.com.
Tabor admitted Heat sold his Great uncle's patch for $600.00
on eBay in March when he was strapped for cash, a move he now
regrets. Well, is this a motive for this
guy? That he needs money and This is
why he's telling the story? I don't know.
Eckerhart, a 28 year Air Force veteran who served in the
Vietnam and Gulf wars, died in August last year, age 75.
His story has now been documented by the Pentagon's UFO
investigative office. AARO after Tabor was interviewed
by staff in May. A memo of his account along with
other reports and witness statements is due to be compiled
and sent to Congress next year. Tabor said that ARO staffers
were professional and non threatening, added adding I was
surprised at how interested they were.
Tabor said he decided to come forward to push for limited
disclosure of what he believes is the truth about non human
craft in the government's position position.
I did this interview in a way that I feel doesn't disclose
technical information or adversaries he could exploit, he
said. Despite what people think,
secrets can be kept. If you're getting paid well, if
you have a security clearance, if you're if you've signed a non
disclosure agreement, you're going to be happy and you're
going to work hard and you're not going and you're going to
keep your mouth shut. Disclosure has to be done very
carefully. We don't want our enemies to
know everything about what we've got, but I do believe
wholeheartedly that humanity deserves to know the truth.
If we have recovered these non human objects or craft, which
100% I believe we have, I think we're too far down that rabbit
hole to ever get these guys to tell us what they have.
Honestly, it says here at Yorker Watts, former employee EG and G
was linked to other claims of a secret government program
holding crashed alien craft. Physicist and intelligence
officer Doctor Eric Davis allegedly met with then Deputy
Director of Defense Intelligence Agency Vice Admiral Thomas
Wilson in the parking lot of an EG and G site in Las Vegas in
2002 and wrote notes of what Wilson told him.
You know, I'm not really that excited about these meetings and
parking lots. I just don't think it's a good
idea. According to the notes, the Vice
Admiral told Davis that in the early 2000s, he uncovered but
was denied access to a secret program run by a defense
contractor that retrieved and attempted to reverse engineer
UFOs. The bombshell controversial
documents claim Wilson found discrepancies in budgets that
led him to the program run by aerospace technology contractor
one of the top ones in the US. Discrepancies in the budget now.
I've been harping on this for a week or two now.
The Defense Department was audited.
They could not come up with half of their stuff, $1.55 trillion.
I read the article. You can go back and look it up
that Bernie Sanders and Chuck Grassley did.
Two politicians. OK, they're both old white guys,
but they're on the opposite end of the spectrums.
You know, you got Sanders just clear out here the very, very,
very left lane. And then you got Chuck Grassley,
who's who's pretty conservative, OK, both saying, hey, we're
missing 1.55 trillion, we gotta find this money.
Now, how do you lose half your assets, half your tanks, half
your bullets, half your airplanes, half your ships?
That's a tremendous amount of money.
Could it be this money's being dumped into these black
projects, just just funneled in there?
Boom. Like a like a black hole never
to be seen again. At 1 1/2 trillion dollars, $9000
per tax payer payer. That's enough money to
effectively create a whole second economy, a whole second
government, a whole second society.
You see what I'm saying? These guys could be running on
space tests for all we know. We funded it to our own demise.
I think 1 1/2 trillion dollars. Crazy.
Davis has declined to publicly confirm their authenticity,
though his friend and ex senior Pentagon official Christopher
Mellon wrote in his blog last year that Davis is in fact the
author. Well, this gets a little sketchy
when you bring Chris Mellon in because, you know, seems like he
knows a thing or two about passing things off in parking
lots. Seems to be kind of an MO there,
which makes me a little bit skeptical of some of the things
were said in this article, but we'll go ahead.
Wilson has specifically denied ever meeting Davis, telling
journalist Ross Coulthart that he was in an isolated camp in
Maine during October 2002 and had only been to Vegas once, a
deployment to Nelson Air Force Base in 1979, or 80.
The notes were entered into Congressional Record by
Wisconsin Congressman Mike Gallagher at the historic UFO
hearing last year. Notorious Area 51 worker Barb
Lazar. I don't know if Bob is
notorious. I think he's controversial.
I think he passed a polygraph. I I have questions about Bob,
but he's also said some things that really that really turned
my head. And a lot of people like Bob,
probably some of my most listened to podcast were about
Bob Lazar. So whatever he's saying is
resonating with people and you just can't write him off as a
complete Nutter. So I don't know, everything Bob
says is true or false or whatnot.
Some of the things I'm like, wow, I think that's kind of
crazy. And then you find out later that
it's been confirmed by somebody else.
So I'm, I'm just putting Bob in the maybe column.
I, you know, that's all I can do with Bob.
Tabor said his great uncle told him he knew Lazar worked at the
base, but that much of his story was fabricated.
He was only there for a few months, Tabor said.
And these states. There was a site called S4 at
the base of the Papoose Mountains with 9 hangar sections
built into the side of the mountain housing 9 flying
saucers. My great uncle said it's bogus.
The only thing Papoose had was some radio tower equipment.
That was his take on it. Well, I don't know.
What do you know? It seems like everything that
run there is in a need to know basis.
I find it interesting that they'll wait to the very end of
the article before he slams poor old Bob.
So I found some interesting stuff in this.
I mean take it for what it's worth.
And this is is this a controlled narrative?
Is this somebody trying to make some money off the situation or
is this somebody who has really told a story by their uncle and
they're being honest with it? I don't know.
But I I did a little work around looking for for Eric Davis
because or doctor Eric Davis because man that name sounds
familiar and he's kind of a he's he he's kind of a like a regular
guy in in this sort of stuff you can find stuff on him.
It's an interesting guy. I think he's a smart guy.
Controversial like a lot of them.
I'll put the link in the Binary coffee and the Kofi.
That's always thanks to people that support over there and
Spotify. But he did this podcast and
there was like a 5 minute segment.
I think I could do a whole show on it.
But at the very end of the podcast he made a statement.
He said, this is from Doctor Eric W Davis.
The the guy that was just talking about here.
UFOs have not been benevolent. It's all been just hide and
seek, Hide and seek use stealth as much as possible so that
humans don't see us in the environment.
And when they want to expose ourselves, we expose ourselves,
do our little fun games and then take off.
They may be testing our technology, they may be testing
the US Navy's capability when they do this and also they've
done it with the Air Force 2. So he seems to view the whole
UFO thing in that somewhat darker view, a little more
skeptical that these things are here to help us.
I'm kind of the same way, I have to admit, but it's what I find
about this whole story. This egg shaped UFO that they're
now reporting was at at Area 51. You start to see some of the
same players bubble up to the surface, you know, getting in
their two cents worth. And we don't really have a lot
of documents to back anything up.
We have second hand information and hearsay and like what Grush
has been putting forward there that's not first hand evidence
that's hearsay as far as as far as you know the legal systems is
concerned. It's something somebody told him
that's what he says Now until he can out these people and say hey
this person said this to me and then we can go back and either
confirm or deny that then all we have is hearsay, OK not even
really good evidence just hearsay.
So we have to be able to cross examine that other witness and
we're not able to do that right now.
But one or two things that are happening here, either we're
we've got the gears are kind of moving slowly and we got some
people thinking about coming forward and sharing some really
cool stories or this is part of a bigger parallel narrative to
keep people from the real truth, which could be notice this young
guy, he's saying, hey, limited disclosure until next time, this
is UFO warning.