1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,280 Hello and welcome to the program UFO Warning. 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,760 In this episode, we're talking about an egg shaped craft at 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,000 Area 51. That's correct, an egg shaped 4 00:00:12,040 --> 00:00:15,920 craft at Area 51. Now, I'd recommend that you hold 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,840 on tight because we're about to enter some high strangeness, as 6 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:21,920 they say. This article is from 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:26,640 dailymail.co.uk. The title says Secrets of Area 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:31,920 51, a metallic egg shaped UFO the size of ASUV was kept at the 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,080 highly classified Air Force Base in the 1980s. 10 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,680 Whistleblower claims Eric Taber, defense aerospace contractor for 11 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:44,480 13 years, told dailymail.com an egg shaped metallic UFO kept at 12 00:00:44,480 --> 00:00:48,320 Area 51 in the 1980s. He revealed the story His late 13 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:53,920 great Uncle Sam Erkehart. That's spelled Urquhart. 14 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,720 An Area 51 contractor told him about a UFO at the mysterious 15 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,320 desert base. Taber testified in May to the 16 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,400 Pentagon's UFO Investigation Unit, who are collecting 17 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,320 accounts of alleged government possession of non human craft. 18 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,160 And I've been critical of these guys as far as their efforts to 19 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,320 collect reports, but maybe they've gotten one here. 20 00:01:15,320 --> 00:01:18,240 Let's see. So articles by Josh Boswell for 21 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,240 dailymail.com stated December 11th, 2023. 22 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:26,400 They begin by saying an egg shaped metallic UFO was kept at 23 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:30,160 Area 51 in the 1980s at Whistle World, claims an exclusive 24 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,720 interview with dailymail.com. This sounds like some of the 25 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,720 some of the Bob Lazar stuff that we've heard. 26 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:41,240 Engineers at the Nevada Air Base claimed the CIA found the 27 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,640 strange craft in the desert and brought it to them for 28 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,320 investigation, but later shipped it to another base after they 29 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,520 were unable to get inside the object. 30 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,320 You know, I have a little issue right there. 31 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,600 I mean, the CIA found it in the desert. 32 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,200 For one thing, the CIA is not supposed to be operating inside 33 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,760 the United States. And secondly, what do they have 34 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,880 CIA agents, you know, walking around out in the desert out 35 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:06,520 there? I don't know. 36 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,600 But it does give you an idea of how compartmentalized this stuff 37 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,880 is and how many different tentacles of the Deep state we 38 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,080 have out there trying to grab this stuff and pick it up. 39 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:20,400 Now, the CIA shipping this stuff to an Army base, that's also 40 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,240 questionable to me. It seemed like these guys would 41 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,000 just hang on to anything that they had. 42 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,040 Eric Taber has been a defense aerospace contractor for 13 43 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,720 years and has held a security clearance to work on military 44 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,480 aircraft, it says. In an interview at 45 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,880 dailymail.com, he revealed the story. 46 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:41,680 His late great Uncle Sam Erkehart, an Area 51 contractor, 47 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,920 told him about a UFO at the mysterious desert base. 48 00:02:46,640 --> 00:02:48,840 And then it has a picture of him here with his uncle. 49 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,960 It's got, it's got a illustration of this craft. 50 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,080 It's kind of this large egg shaped craft. 51 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:55,920 I don't know, big enough for a couple people to get into. 52 00:02:55,920 --> 00:02:58,720 I suppose just sitting there in the desert. 53 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,600 I mean it. That's a cool picture. 54 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,760 And it says a rendering of the metallic egg shaped UFO scene. 55 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,440 X-rays couldn't penetrate it. It showed up on X-ray as a solid 56 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,000 object. They tried to open it and 57 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,160 penetrate this whole. They couldn't, Taper said. 58 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:15,520 That's the first thing they want to do. 59 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,640 They want to penetrate it. I mean, who knows? 60 00:03:17,640 --> 00:03:20,000 This thing could be some kind of an explosive, for crying out 61 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,560 loud. But you know, that's our 62 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,760 government going right in there, just pounding away at this 63 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,720 stuff, OK? It says. 64 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,640 Taber testified in May to the Pentagon's UFO investigative 65 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,640 unit, the old domain anomaly research office, who are 66 00:03:33,640 --> 00:03:36,720 collecting accounts of alleged government possession of non 67 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,120 human craft. The claim, though? 68 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,480 An unverified story from a now deceased witness. 69 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,080 Now that's not correct. This is this is hearsay. 70 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:48,800 That's the legal definition of the story. 71 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,920 The story may or may not be from the deceased witness. 72 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,440 The deceased witness of course, is deceased and no longer able 73 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:00,840 to tell us whether this guy just made this up or if he actually 74 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,280 imparted this information of this young man. 75 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,360 Anyway says has a long history of rumors about potential extra 76 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,280 craft or futuristic spaceships stored at the Nevada Desert Air 77 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,480 Base near Groom Lake north of Las Vegas. 78 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,880 The news comes after whistleblowers told Congress the 79 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:20,040 government has a secret program to capture a crash or landed non 80 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,520 human vehicles and has for decades been attempting to glean 81 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,560 technological insights from these alleged out of this world 82 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,760 objects. The claims have prompted 83 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,880 lawmakers to draft legislation to disclose any such programs 84 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,360 currently working its way through Congress. 85 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,760 Taber spoke to dailymail.com only about his great uncle. 86 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:44,320 Story declined to comment on any of his own work as a defense 87 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,760 contractor. He said he struck up a 88 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,640 friendship with his grandmother's brother after 89 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,600 moving to the West Coast from Mississippi in 2012. 90 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:58,080 The younger engineer said he repeatedly quizzed Erkelhardt on 91 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:02,480 the truth about rumors of aliens at Area 51 and was always 92 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,440 brushed off. But one day, Erkehart relented. 93 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,520 My great uncle served in the Air Force for 28 years, E8 rank 94 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,680 equivalent to a first Sergeant, Tabor told dailymail.com. 95 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:20,200 He told me he worked at Area 51 from 1997 until 2014. 96 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,800 Well, first rank, it says to a first Sergeant, so that's better 97 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,080 than being a grunt. But that's not like even, you 98 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,600 know, at really at officer level, say Lieutenant or captain 99 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,160 or whatever. I mean, I know that much, I 100 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,400 don't know a lot about the military, but I know that that's 101 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:39,880 not that far up the food change. I mean this is a kind of, this 102 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,800 is a kind of ranking you could achieve without going through 103 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,000 you know formal education, whether you know military school 104 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,160 or university or whatever. I think when you get out of 105 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,680 university, if you join the military, typically you go in 106 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,240 and was a first Lieutenant someone can somebody can correct 107 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,280 me on that, but I don't think he go in as a Sergeant. 108 00:05:58,280 --> 00:06:02,160 I don't think Erckhart began his job at Area 51 working for 109 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,960 defense contractor EG and G, which later partnered with 110 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:10,600 Raytheon to become JT Three LLC and subsequently JT 4 LLC. 111 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:15,360 He was head of security for his engineering group and a data 112 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,560 configuration specialist. His group did radar across 113 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,200 section testing and then it has a badge here that his uncalled 114 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,240 good and says Ukart gave Tabor a badge with his department's 115 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,320 Insignia with symbols, alluding to the role working on radar 116 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,400 signals at the Area 51. It's got some radar little 117 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:37,000 towers there with zeros and ones and a lightning bolt and a kind 118 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:38,720 of a silver orb in the middle of it. 119 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:43,560 It says measure analyze project. Now, I mean I'll put these at 120 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:47,240 the Buy me a coffee website and at the Kodash fight a Comma site 121 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,960 and you can take a look at him and if there's if there's 122 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,480 anybody out there in the military they can, they can let 123 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:54,880 us know if this seems legit or not. 124 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:59,720 He goes on and says I kept asking him about UFOs. 125 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,440 He said I know nothing. Then one day we were on his back 126 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,760 porch and he said, OK, I'll tell you about one craft that I knew 127 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,880 of, he said. When I first got there in 1997, 128 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,000 I had a personal conversation with a senior EG and G engineer 129 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,240 whose group was tasked with trying to reverse engineer an 130 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,960 object that was brought there by some CIA people in the 1980s. 131 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:24,120 It was supposedly just found in a remote desert location, fully 132 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,000 intact. The senior EG and G engineer 133 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,280 described to my to my great uncle that it was egg shaped, 134 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,240 about the size of an SUV. Smooth and seamless, metallic 135 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,240 looking, silverish Gray in color, with no control surfaces, 136 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,680 no flaps, no inlet, no exhaust, and no writing or symbols on the 137 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,280 outside. These are the best and brightest 138 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,320 engineers you can think of. They tried, to no avail, to 139 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,120 figure out what the power source was, how to achieve it, and how 140 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,840 it works. They tried to induce electricity 141 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,160 to it. X-rays couldn't penetrate it. 142 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,840 It showed up on X-ray as a solid object. 143 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,240 They tried to open it and penetrate its hall. 144 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,560 They couldn't. They said they were able to get 145 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,320 some very small samples of the material, and I'm not an expert 146 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,520 in chemistry, but I guess from the isotope ratio or the mixture 147 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:14,160 of the elements they concealed, it was not made on Earth. 148 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,280 Well, I'm not sure how they could get samples, so they 149 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,400 couldn't cut it or scrape it or scratch it or anything like 150 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:20,680 that. But this, that's what they say. 151 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,800 And we've heard about this lots of times with stuff, you know, 152 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,160 being discovered as implants, how the isotopes show up and 153 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,840 they're not of this world. That's what I'd be really 154 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,640 interested in the government doing is doing some real serious 155 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,720 research on some of these implants which always seem to 156 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,600 disappear or or just get ignored or debunked. 157 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,960 Now it has a it has a copy of the interview he did here, which 158 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,800 is nice picture of the kid. It says Taber said he decided to 159 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,720 come forward to push for limited disclosure and what he believes 160 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,160 is the truth about non human craft in the government's 161 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,320 position. Limited disclosure. 162 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,200 I'm not sure really if that's what we need because once you 163 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,520 start limiting disclosure, and that's another euphemism I 164 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,040 think, for controlling the narrative, Taber said. 165 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:04,800 Erkwatt told him. Eventually the craft was shipped 166 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,120 to another base, possibly White Sands Missile Range in New 167 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,760 Mexico, and that was the last the engineers heard about it. 168 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:15,200 But Erkwatt Hart had one more shocking twist in his story. 169 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,520 My great uncle would collect radar data and bring it into 170 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,280 secure vaults to catalog and store it, Tabor said. 171 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,560 He was in one of these secure data vault storage rooms in the 172 00:09:24,560 --> 00:09:28,640 main control building nicknamed the Taj Mahal, when on the wall 173 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,720 he saw an up close, crystal clear photograph of the exact 174 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,000 same object that the senior engineer had discussed. 175 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,960 Tabor shared pictures with dailymail.com that Erkelhart 176 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,000 showed him, including a group photo with this area 51 engineer 177 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,840 colleagues in a brake trailer at the base and an Insignia packs 178 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,880 designed for their radar analysis group. 179 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:49,960 I don't know. I kind of have a hard time. 180 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,120 Someone's going to have a picture of this top secret item 181 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,240 setting up in a, you know, the a radar vault room. 182 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:00,560 If if this is what's going on, things are are are way more 183 00:10:00,560 --> 00:10:03,440 jacked up than what we realize. But the alleged smoking gun 184 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,440 photo of the egg shaped craft never left Area 51 vault. 185 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:09,640 Yeah, that sounds a little too wild for me. 186 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:10,840 I don't know. I'm just going to put it out 187 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,360 there for you, Sam said the American people would probably 188 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,440 never get to see it, Tabor told dailymail.com. 189 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:20,080 Tabor admitted Heat sold his Great uncle's patch for $600.00 190 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,680 on eBay in March when he was strapped for cash, a move he now 191 00:10:23,680 --> 00:10:26,240 regrets. Well, is this a motive for this 192 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:27,760 guy? That he needs money and This is 193 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,760 why he's telling the story? I don't know. 194 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,640 Eckerhart, a 28 year Air Force veteran who served in the 195 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,800 Vietnam and Gulf wars, died in August last year, age 75. 196 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,640 His story has now been documented by the Pentagon's UFO 197 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,960 investigative office. AARO after Tabor was interviewed 198 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,160 by staff in May. A memo of his account along with 199 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,040 other reports and witness statements is due to be compiled 200 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:53,000 and sent to Congress next year. Tabor said that ARO staffers 201 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,840 were professional and non threatening, added adding I was 202 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:58,680 surprised at how interested they were. 203 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,080 Tabor said he decided to come forward to push for limited 204 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,760 disclosure of what he believes is the truth about non human 205 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,920 craft in the government's position position. 206 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,320 I did this interview in a way that I feel doesn't disclose 207 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,320 technical information or adversaries he could exploit, he 208 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,360 said. Despite what people think, 209 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,240 secrets can be kept. If you're getting paid well, if 210 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:23,160 you have a security clearance, if you're if you've signed a non 211 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,640 disclosure agreement, you're going to be happy and you're 212 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,560 going to work hard and you're not going and you're going to 213 00:11:28,560 --> 00:11:31,080 keep your mouth shut. Disclosure has to be done very 214 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,240 carefully. We don't want our enemies to 215 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,280 know everything about what we've got, but I do believe 216 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,440 wholeheartedly that humanity deserves to know the truth. 217 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,760 If we have recovered these non human objects or craft, which 218 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:46,280 100% I believe we have, I think we're too far down that rabbit 219 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,440 hole to ever get these guys to tell us what they have. 220 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:53,200 Honestly, it says here at Yorker Watts, former employee EG and G 221 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,560 was linked to other claims of a secret government program 222 00:11:56,560 --> 00:12:00,280 holding crashed alien craft. Physicist and intelligence 223 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:04,400 officer Doctor Eric Davis allegedly met with then Deputy 224 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,400 Director of Defense Intelligence Agency Vice Admiral Thomas 225 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:11,040 Wilson in the parking lot of an EG and G site in Las Vegas in 226 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,720 2002 and wrote notes of what Wilson told him. 227 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,800 You know, I'm not really that excited about these meetings and 228 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:19,760 parking lots. I just don't think it's a good 229 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,760 idea. According to the notes, the Vice 230 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,600 Admiral told Davis that in the early 2000s, he uncovered but 231 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,280 was denied access to a secret program run by a defense 232 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:33,080 contractor that retrieved and attempted to reverse engineer 233 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,600 UFOs. The bombshell controversial 234 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,000 documents claim Wilson found discrepancies in budgets that 235 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:43,760 led him to the program run by aerospace technology contractor 236 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:49,120 one of the top ones in the US. Discrepancies in the budget now. 237 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,080 I've been harping on this for a week or two now. 238 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:53,680 The Defense Department was audited. 239 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,720 They could not come up with half of their stuff, $1.55 trillion. 240 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,160 I read the article. You can go back and look it up 241 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,040 that Bernie Sanders and Chuck Grassley did. 242 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,040 Two politicians. OK, they're both old white guys, 243 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,280 but they're on the opposite end of the spectrums. 244 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,840 You know, you got Sanders just clear out here the very, very, 245 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,480 very left lane. And then you got Chuck Grassley, 246 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:20,320 who's who's pretty conservative, OK, both saying, hey, we're 247 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,760 missing 1.55 trillion, we gotta find this money. 248 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,360 Now, how do you lose half your assets, half your tanks, half 249 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,760 your bullets, half your airplanes, half your ships? 250 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:32,920 That's a tremendous amount of money. 251 00:13:33,560 --> 00:13:35,600 Could it be this money's being dumped into these black 252 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,880 projects, just just funneled in there? 253 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,200 Boom. Like a like a black hole never 254 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:46,840 to be seen again. At 1 1/2 trillion dollars, $9000 255 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,080 per tax payer payer. That's enough money to 256 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:55,400 effectively create a whole second economy, a whole second 257 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,240 government, a whole second society. 258 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,760 You see what I'm saying? These guys could be running on 259 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:06,280 space tests for all we know. We funded it to our own demise. 260 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,440 I think 1 1/2 trillion dollars. Crazy. 261 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,720 Davis has declined to publicly confirm their authenticity, 262 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,960 though his friend and ex senior Pentagon official Christopher 263 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,400 Mellon wrote in his blog last year that Davis is in fact the 264 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,120 author. Well, this gets a little sketchy 265 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:27,600 when you bring Chris Mellon in because, you know, seems like he 266 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,200 knows a thing or two about passing things off in parking 267 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,040 lots. Seems to be kind of an MO there, 268 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,720 which makes me a little bit skeptical of some of the things 269 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,160 were said in this article, but we'll go ahead. 270 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,040 Wilson has specifically denied ever meeting Davis, telling 271 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,960 journalist Ross Coulthart that he was in an isolated camp in 272 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:49,440 Maine during October 2002 and had only been to Vegas once, a 273 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,200 deployment to Nelson Air Force Base in 1979, or 80. 274 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,040 The notes were entered into Congressional Record by 275 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,600 Wisconsin Congressman Mike Gallagher at the historic UFO 276 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,960 hearing last year. Notorious Area 51 worker Barb 277 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:04,960 Lazar. I don't know if Bob is 278 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,520 notorious. I think he's controversial. 279 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:12,120 I think he passed a polygraph. I I have questions about Bob, 280 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,880 but he's also said some things that really that really turned 281 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,480 my head. And a lot of people like Bob, 282 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,920 probably some of my most listened to podcast were about 283 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,840 Bob Lazar. So whatever he's saying is 284 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,240 resonating with people and you just can't write him off as a 285 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:31,040 complete Nutter. So I don't know, everything Bob 286 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,000 says is true or false or whatnot. 287 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,680 Some of the things I'm like, wow, I think that's kind of 288 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,560 crazy. And then you find out later that 289 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,040 it's been confirmed by somebody else. 290 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,880 So I'm, I'm just putting Bob in the maybe column. 291 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,080 I, you know, that's all I can do with Bob. 292 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,600 Tabor said his great uncle told him he knew Lazar worked at the 293 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,240 base, but that much of his story was fabricated. 294 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,200 He was only there for a few months, Tabor said. 295 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,880 And these states. There was a site called S4 at 296 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,440 the base of the Papoose Mountains with 9 hangar sections 297 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,560 built into the side of the mountain housing 9 flying 298 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,040 saucers. My great uncle said it's bogus. 299 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,200 The only thing Papoose had was some radio tower equipment. 300 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,240 That was his take on it. Well, I don't know. 301 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,440 What do you know? It seems like everything that 302 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,120 run there is in a need to know basis. 303 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,440 I find it interesting that they'll wait to the very end of 304 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,520 the article before he slams poor old Bob. 305 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,920 So I found some interesting stuff in this. 306 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:25,480 I mean take it for what it's worth. 307 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,200 And this is is this a controlled narrative? 308 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,520 Is this somebody trying to make some money off the situation or 309 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,080 is this somebody who has really told a story by their uncle and 310 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:35,760 they're being honest with it? I don't know. 311 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:40,080 But I I did a little work around looking for for Eric Davis 312 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,560 because or doctor Eric Davis because man that name sounds 313 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:47,640 familiar and he's kind of a he's he he's kind of a like a regular 314 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,120 guy in in this sort of stuff you can find stuff on him. 315 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,320 It's an interesting guy. I think he's a smart guy. 316 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,080 Controversial like a lot of them. 317 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,800 I'll put the link in the Binary coffee and the Kofi. 318 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:00,840 That's always thanks to people that support over there and 319 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,120 Spotify. But he did this podcast and 320 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:04,640 there was like a 5 minute segment. 321 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,160 I think I could do a whole show on it. 322 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,800 But at the very end of the podcast he made a statement. 323 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,520 He said, this is from Doctor Eric W Davis. 324 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,680 The the guy that was just talking about here. 325 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:19,400 UFOs have not been benevolent. It's all been just hide and 326 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:23,960 seek, Hide and seek use stealth as much as possible so that 327 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,240 humans don't see us in the environment. 328 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,840 And when they want to expose ourselves, we expose ourselves, 329 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,360 do our little fun games and then take off. 330 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,960 They may be testing our technology, they may be testing 331 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,200 the US Navy's capability when they do this and also they've 332 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:44,520 done it with the Air Force 2. So he seems to view the whole 333 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:49,040 UFO thing in that somewhat darker view, a little more 334 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,600 skeptical that these things are here to help us. 335 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:56,640 I'm kind of the same way, I have to admit, but it's what I find 336 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,320 about this whole story. This egg shaped UFO that they're 337 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:04,400 now reporting was at at Area 51. You start to see some of the 338 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,440 same players bubble up to the surface, you know, getting in 339 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,640 their two cents worth. And we don't really have a lot 340 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,080 of documents to back anything up. 341 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,080 We have second hand information and hearsay and like what Grush 342 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,600 has been putting forward there that's not first hand evidence 343 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,480 that's hearsay as far as as far as you know the legal systems is 344 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,240 concerned. It's something somebody told him 345 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:30,200 that's what he says Now until he can out these people and say hey 346 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,960 this person said this to me and then we can go back and either 347 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:37,840 confirm or deny that then all we have is hearsay, OK not even 348 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,200 really good evidence just hearsay. 349 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:44,200 So we have to be able to cross examine that other witness and 350 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:45,320 we're not able to do that right now. 351 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:49,600 But one or two things that are happening here, either we're 352 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:53,200 we've got the gears are kind of moving slowly and we got some 353 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,040 people thinking about coming forward and sharing some really 354 00:18:56,040 --> 00:19:01,640 cool stories or this is part of a bigger parallel narrative to 355 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,280 keep people from the real truth, which could be notice this young 356 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,800 guy, he's saying, hey, limited disclosure until next time, this 357 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:09,600 is UFO warning.