1 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:06,960 Hello and welcome to the program UFO Warning. 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,920 In this episode, we're talking about Louis Elizondo blames the 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:11,880 Collins elite. That's correct. 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,240 Louis Elizondo blames the Collins elite. 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:17,960 Maybe you've watched it or you haven't watched it. 6 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,480 He recently did a couple of interviews, one with Ross 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,440 Coulter and one with Joe Rogan. I watched the 40 minute 8 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,760 interview with Ross Coulter. News Nation. 9 00:00:26,080 --> 00:00:30,800 Amazing. I mean, Ross does really treat 10 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,680 Louis with kit gloves. It's kind of a little bit of a 11 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,080 love fest, but some stuff comes out in this that I find 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,800 disturbing. Disturbing just I suppose in a 13 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,040 way that I don't trust Louis and I feel like I trust him even 14 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:48,160 less after this. First off, Louis, they go 15 00:00:48,160 --> 00:00:50,480 through his whole history being a military guy. 16 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,840 Apparently when he quit or retired or whatever it was he 17 00:00:53,840 --> 00:01:00,200 did, he was AGS, what, 15, which means he was making around 18 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:04,280 probably 150 to $160,000 a year. Right now I think that job pays 19 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,520 159, which is good. That's the top, You know, 1/6 20 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,320 the population makes that kind of money. 21 00:01:10,320 --> 00:01:12,400 So he was pretty well paid, lived in Maryland. 22 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,640 I suppose the cost was a little bit higher out there to live. 23 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:21,240 But he continually talks about being head of ATIP, a ATIP, it's 24 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,080 Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program. 25 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,720 Now you can go on, look at pity and find this out. 26 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,720 It tells us the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification 27 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:35,840 Program was an unclassified but unpublicized investigatory 28 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,640 effort funded by the United States government to study 29 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,600 unidentified flying objects or unexplained aerial phenomena. 30 00:01:41,960 --> 00:01:45,920 The program was first made public on December 16th, 2017. 31 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:51,160 The program began in 2007 with funding of $22 million / 5 years 32 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,920 until the available appropriations were ended in 33 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,920 2012. The program began in the US 34 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:01,680 Defense Intelligence Agency. Now I want to try to clarify 35 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,600 what it means to have a program in the government. 36 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,560 If you've ever worked for the federal government or had 37 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,440 contact with them or had a state job, there's so much money 38 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:10,960 floating around. OK. 39 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,360 And that's why it irritates me so much when they were told 40 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,000 while there's not enough money for homeless people or hungry 41 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:21,640 kids or or mentally ill folks, look, there's more than enough 42 00:02:21,640 --> 00:02:23,680 money. I mean, they're spending 10s of 43 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,640 thousands of dollars per, you know, disabled person to take 44 00:02:27,640 --> 00:02:29,520 care of them. And if you walk into any one of 45 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,760 these offices, there's a half a dozen people sitting around not 46 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,000 doing anything pretty much most of the time. 47 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:41,520 So our government is awash in misspent money and trillions of 48 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,400 misspent money. So the idea that Louis Elizondo 49 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,760 15 years ago could have been a charge of a program that was 50 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,680 awarded $22 million by a very powerful senator, the late Harry 51 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:57,440 Reid, at the behest of a big donor, Bob Bigelow, who is tied 52 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,960 seven ways to Sunday with a deep state, It's not out of the 53 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,040 question. OK, At $22 million by that 54 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,640 little program he ran, which is basically here's, you know, 55 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,960 $5,000,000 a year to set an office somewhere and come out to 56 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,520 my ranch at Skinwalker and see if you can see a UFOI don't know 57 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,840 how Louie was picked for that job, if it was just maybe 58 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,600 somebody ran into him somewhere. I don't know. 59 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,440 How do you go from, how do you go from being Darth Vader at 60 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:28,680 Gitmo to running a UFO investigative program, a program 61 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,480 that consisted of what, two people and $22 million? 62 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:36,800 So these programs are all over the place, First off, so there 63 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,680 is an unimaginable amount of money being spent. 64 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,400 And so the idea that this tiny little program for $22 million 65 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,320 was just created kind of as a vanity project by this late 66 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,640 senator, it's not hard for me to understand. 67 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,360 So imagine you're working there at the DoD. 68 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,080 Maybe you've been there your whole life, working your whole 69 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:54,880 working life. Maybe your parents work there 70 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,480 and your grandparents. A lot of these jobs are 71 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,040 generational, by the way. That's why we have the deep 72 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,640 state. And you're working there and 73 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,000 you're you're looking at big problems, you know? 74 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,680 And all of a sudden, Louis walks in. 75 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,000 He wants to start seeing all the stuff about UFOs. 76 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,960 I imagine he was an an annoyance to a lot of these guys. 77 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,279 So Darth Vader comes in, show me the UFO files and what does he 78 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:18,880 have to do all day? How much is he making? 79 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,680 Apparently he's making $160,000 a year to sit in the office at 80 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,440 the DoD where he's supposed to be investigating UFOs. 81 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,840 Can you imagine how angry that made some people? 82 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,560 I suppose that that the 20% of the people at the DoD that 83 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,960 actually do the work probably are looking at Louis and 84 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,560 thinking, wow, I wish I had a nice office somewhere where I 85 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:41,720 could get paid $160,000 a year to talk about UFOs while they're 86 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,800 buried in paperwork. And do you get what I'm saying? 87 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:49,080 So I suppose there was a certain level of tension between Louis 88 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,120 and the people around him. The people around him, A lot of 89 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,000 them, I suppose were career employees there. 90 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,000 They've been working there for many, many years. 91 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:57,920 Probably were. A lot of them probably were 92 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,480 actually doing real work. And then here comes Louis. 93 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:06,720 I've got my own, my own program, ATIP, and we've got a $5,000,000 94 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,480 a year budget or 4 million, whatever. 95 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,240 Why? Who decided that the taxpayers 96 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,000 have a choice? No, it was a decision made on a 97 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:19,720 whim by Harry Reid at the behest of a big donor, a vanity 98 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,080 project. Kind of reminds me of these, you 99 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,280 know, studies you hear about at these colleges that are 100 00:05:24,280 --> 00:05:26,600 federally funded where they're testing the cocaine addiction of 101 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,440 snails, where they're breeding habits of, of some kind of a 102 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,360 chicken or something. Just crazy off the wall stuff. 103 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,560 So it's another one of those thousands of programs that we're 104 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,240 told are so essential to the government that we have to have 105 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,240 them and the people that run those programs or that are 106 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,520 making money off those programs, like Louis will tell you how 107 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,760 important they are and how, you know, the world would come to an 108 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,400 end if we didn't have them in there doing all this work. 109 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,360 So that's Louis. That's that is Louis right 110 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,480 there. He's this guy who had been spent 111 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,440 his career in the military different, you know, jobs 112 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:05,360 working in the intelligence agencies, big giant government 113 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,240 operations, a little, a little tiny cog in a wheel. 114 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,880 And then he goes to Gitmo and we know we have the stuff down 115 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,320 there where he's accused of doing stuff. 116 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,400 Even in the interview with Coulter, he talks about running 117 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:22,000 a a remote viewing experiment on one of the one of the DTNAS, one 118 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,360 of the prisoners down there. Well, we probably shouldn't have 119 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,000 done it. What did he do down there 120 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,120 anyway? So he comes from Gitmo, which is 121 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,720 suspect to me. And then he ends up in charge of 122 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,000 this UFO program, quote UN quote. 123 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,760 That looks to me like a vanity project for Bob Bigelow. 124 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,000 So they can come out, maybe funnel some of that money into 125 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,000 his his Skinwalker Ranch. I don't know. 126 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,280 I would love to know exactly where the $22 million went. 127 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:49,120 We know that Louis made probably around 150 grand a year over 128 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,640 those, what, five years that he was in there, Not even 129 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,240 $1,000,000. Where did the other 2021 million 130 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,440 go at? So Louis at a tip. 131 00:06:56,840 --> 00:06:59,760 And it's at a tip that he has this epiphany. 132 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,920 He, he starts talking to people because what else has he got to 133 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,120 do all day? Sit around the cooler and tell 134 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:09,400 UFO stories to the actual employees of the DoD and 135 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,320 probably some people like him. And he begins to ask questions 136 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:17,160 and he wants to see the the documents on this stuff. 137 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,480 And they basically tell him what you would expect them to tell 138 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,960 him. It's a need to know basis and 139 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,720 you don't have a need to know. Now, that doesn't mean that they 140 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,160 have UFOs or that any of the stuff that he's saying is true. 141 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,320 They're just telling him you can't see it. 142 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,960 I could almost see some of these old timers in there that were so 143 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:40,560 annoyed by Elizondo that they took great pleasure in telling 144 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,640 him we're the in guys, You're the out guy. 145 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,720 Kind of like high school. I mean, Louis shows up, I don't 146 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,600 know what, 5 foot 35 foot four and he wants to hang out with 147 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,760 the jocks in the locker room and they're just like, sorry, dude, 148 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,320 I don't care. You're not you're not cool 149 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,200 enough to be at the cool kids. That's the feeling I get from 150 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,520 Louis is that he was in this environment where maybe he'd 151 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,160 always been in in charge before. I mean, definitely a Gitmo. 152 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,480 He's in charge. I mean, if somebody else has got 153 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,120 handcuffs on or they're tied to a bed and you're pouring water 154 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,560 over their face, you're in charge, not them. 155 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:17,280 So he has this history of being in in situations where he's in 156 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,720 charge, but then he shows up at the DoD now he's not in charge 157 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,760 anymore. He's just a tiny little guppy 158 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,600 and a sea full of sharks. Because some of these guys have 159 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,560 been in those offices for decades, decades. 160 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,040 And where did they get their power from? 161 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,080 Well, they get their power from what they know. 162 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,440 And they don't want to share that power. 163 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,720 They don't want to share it with you and I, they don't want to 164 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,799 share it with Louie. Now, they would tell you we 165 00:08:40,799 --> 00:08:44,120 can't share it because this is all national security stuff. 166 00:08:44,680 --> 00:08:46,800 Maybe they have a point. Don't know, don't care. 167 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,720 But Louie shows up on the scene. He's there on this. 168 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,320 He's basically a temp worker, OK? 169 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:57,480 He is a temp worker. He's not actually working for a, 170 00:08:57,680 --> 00:09:00,240 you know, directly, you know, for the DoD. 171 00:09:00,680 --> 00:09:04,000 This is a program that has a beginning and an end. 172 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:08,280 It's a five year program with a limited budget of $22 million. 173 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,720 Now, most people would say, man, this is a good time. 174 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,000 I'm going to go in here. I'm going to make my, you know, 175 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:18,040 $150,000 a year for five years. I've got the best insurance 176 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,880 money you can buy. I'm just going to, I'm going to 177 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:25,680 load up and then hey, if I want to leave this job and start 178 00:09:25,680 --> 00:09:28,440 talking about UFOs and stuff, I can probably do that as long as 179 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,640 I get everything cleared. But the last thing they're going 180 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:36,040 to do is go in there and really try to make waves, which is what 181 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:40,360 seems like happened with Louis. Now, of course we know as the 182 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:44,880 story progresses, we have this really sketchy situation and I 183 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,240 got a clip here. We'll play for it where the Tic 184 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,080 Tac video ends up getting allegedly passed off in a 185 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,280 pitting on a parking lot. It looks like the players may 186 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,600 have been Christopher Mellon and Louis Elizondo. 187 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,200 Mellon's talked about it in kind of very obscure terms. 188 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,080 And then we know the New York Times was involved, and we know 189 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,240 Tom Delong was involved, and we know that video ended up on 190 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,520 YouTube with the Academy to the Stars. 191 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:11,720 That's Tom Delong's company, their Webmart splattered over 192 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,720 about 1/4 of the video, which got I think probably millions of 193 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,320 views. So there's a real question here 194 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,240 about Chain of custody. Who gave the Tic Tac video to 195 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,080 who and how did Tom end up with it to put it on his video? 196 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,360 I'll play the excerpt where Louie's complaining about being 197 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,120 investigated. Well, maybe he should have been 198 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,320 because if you or I did that, who knows what would happen to 199 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,280 us. I mean, when you're messing 200 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,280 around with government property and it's not clear whether or 201 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:44,160 not it's considered classified or not, maybe you shouldn't 202 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,360 release it. And even if it's not classified, 203 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,760 it's government property. I suppose you could talk about 204 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,520 it if you're clear to, but you're in one of these 205 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,560 intelligence positions. You take an oath and if you 206 00:10:54,560 --> 00:10:56,640 break that oath, you're going to be in big problems. 207 00:10:56,680 --> 00:10:58,800 That's why I say don't depend upon the government for 208 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,840 disclosure. So I want to go on here and take 209 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,360 a look at a couple of things that Louis says. 210 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,920 The main things that I want to take away from this is, is that 211 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:11,000 Louis believes that he has been persecuted by a group that 212 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,720 Coulter refers to as a Collins elite. 213 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:18,680 Now, according to Louis, these are a insular group of 214 00:11:18,680 --> 00:11:21,400 fundamental Christians because it's always the Christians. 215 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:28,480 And these people believe that UFOs are demonic and therefore 216 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,240 it's better not to look at them. Kind of the way that I think 217 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,680 some of the Native Americans look at Bigfoot or Skinwalker or 218 00:11:35,680 --> 00:11:37,840 these things is that they're a bad force. 219 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,720 They're a bad energy. They actually derive their power 220 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,960 from getting, you know, from people being afraid of them or 221 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:45,400 talking about them or looking about them. 222 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,600 So best not to talk to talk about them. 223 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,720 Well, maybe, maybe these people, maybe there are a group of 224 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:55,320 people in the depending on that feel that way, I don't know. 225 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,040 But the idea that Louis thinks that this group, this group of 226 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:03,200 fundamental Christians is so powerful that they're able to 227 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,120 prevent the entire world from disclosure. 228 00:12:05,560 --> 00:12:08,600 This is just craziness. You don't have to be a rocket 229 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:12,760 scientist just to look at the at the DoD and see that it is not 230 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:16,920 exactly a bastion of Christian conservatism. 231 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,120 I mean, it's probably one of the most woke establishments on 232 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,480 earth. There's constantly debate about 233 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,440 should we have generals cross dressing? 234 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,120 Should we have our guys in basic training and some of these 235 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,040 programs walking around in high heels so they can know how a 236 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,240 woman feels? Should we have women in the arm 237 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,760 in the Navy Seals? It's the exact opposite of what 238 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,160 people would think of when they think of Christian conservatism. 239 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:40,840 So I think that's a cop out for Louis. 240 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:45,160 I think Louis angry because he got this good gig. 241 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:49,200 It was a five year deal where he's making 150 grand a year or 242 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:53,960 better plus benefits for a job where he can just go in and just 243 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,480 shoot the breeze about UFOs all day. 244 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,680 It's really a do nothing job and I'm sure it was a lot of fun. 245 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,400 But I feel like when the job ended, when the money rent out 246 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:10,520 and they and they decided not to renew the gig, Louis got very 247 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,400 angry and he had to blame somebody. 248 00:13:12,680 --> 00:13:15,400 So why not blame the Christians, the calling elite. 249 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,560 Now this leads us to the next thing and I'll play the clips on 250 00:13:18,560 --> 00:13:21,120 these. The next thing he talks about 251 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,760 he's been financially ruined. Wow. 252 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,840 I wonder he doesn't get any kind of retirement then that's weird. 253 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,320 He goes so far to say that they've lost their house living 254 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:34,640 in a in a trailer, which looked like a really it looked to me 255 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:38,440 like about like a hundred $125,000 pull behind fifth wheel 256 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,960 to me didn't look like it was like it was something like you 257 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:42,240 would see in a rundown Twitter court. 258 00:13:42,560 --> 00:13:45,120 And they were so broke, Louis says that he had to dig a pit 259 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,600 because he couldn't afford a septic tank. 260 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,600 Come on, you know, really, Louis, I'm to believe that this 261 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:56,800 $120,000 pull behind camper you have doesn't have a porty potty 262 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:57,960 in it. Most of them do. 263 00:13:58,720 --> 00:13:59,800 You got a little toilet in there. 264 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,800 You use a toilet, you pay the guy. 265 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,200 How much are you paying? You dump out the bad water, you 266 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,080 know, you recycle the stuff, whatever. 267 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,360 You don't go out when you're camping out and dig a hole and 268 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,840 do your business in the ground. I just find an air of 269 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,360 untruthfulness about this guy. But I want to go ahead and play 270 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,000 a couple of these clips and then we'll talk about them and just 271 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,920 see what you think about Louis and whether we can believe a 272 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,520 word this guy says. Now, here's something I have a 273 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,200 problem with. As we said, Louis is blaming the 274 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,360 conservative Christians for not allowing him to investigate 275 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,480 UFOs. Not to mention that he was 276 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,240 working at a job that was temporary, five years. 277 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,600 The program was had a lifespan of five years. 278 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,520 Know that from the beginning has a limited budget, $22 million. 279 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,920 But somehow Louis seems to think that he wasn't a temp worker, he 280 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,120 was full time permanent and that's not what it was. 281 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,800 So he so he says he quit because he couldn't get access to all 282 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,680 this stuff. Well I don't see where they were 283 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,560 under any obligation to give him access to any of this stuff. 284 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,680 To me it looks like he was outside the chain of command as 285 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,120 far as they were concerned. He's upset with the Christians 286 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,640 because they won't let him investigate UFOs because they 287 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,520 think they're demonic. Yet he goes right ahead into 288 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,280 talking about how bad these things are. 289 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:14,040 He seems to have the same opinion, so I'm not sure why 290 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,800 he's upset that they view them as demonic. 291 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,680 It seems like he's trying to cast aspersions on them all. 292 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:22,480 These are a bunch of rubes that they don't, that don't 293 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,800 understand these things are beyond anything spiritual. 294 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,040 And then he himself says, oh, yeah, these are bad news. 295 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:29,480 They're doing all kinds of bad things to people. 296 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,120 Take a listen to this excerpt right here. 297 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:36,200 First real epiphany came during a meeting with a Brazilian Air 298 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:40,080 Force general, who'd come to brief them on a series of 299 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,360 incidents in a city called Calares. 300 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,440 Tell me what was happening. These people, the townspeople, 301 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:51,640 were being plagued by UAPUFOS. In some cases they were being 302 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:56,320 pursued and reports of these laser beam type, if you will, 303 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,080 emissions were coming down and harming people to the point 304 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,640 where the Brazilian government actually deployed doctors and 305 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,400 the military to investigate. And then when they arrived, they 306 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,520 substantiated they encountered these UFOs, these UAP as well. 307 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,760 So we have Louis now he's working at a tip. 308 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,040 OK, this is post Gitmo and all the other stuff. 309 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,920 And he says he has an epiphany once he goes to South America. 310 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:22,480 Had a great job. I wonder if you got to take his 311 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,920 family with him on that trip. And he gets down there and they 312 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,280 have all these reports of people being chased around and, you 313 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,720 know, harassed, and I think you've been attacked by these 314 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:36,000 UFOs and aliens and whatnot. And he talks to the local 315 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,160 military and doctors and stuff and they confirm it. 316 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,920 Now government narrative is nothing happened, just a bunch 317 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,360 of scared natives. But I see here very early on in 318 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:49,640 the ATIP experience, Louis has come to the conclusion that a 319 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,720 lot of these sayings are coming here with bad intent. 320 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,640 So I don't get what why he's so upset with the Christians for 321 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,080 coming to the same the Collins elite for coming to the same 322 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,320 conclusion. I just don't get it. 323 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:06,480 In this short excerpt, we hear Lou talking about whether he 324 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:11,480 thinks these UFO phenomena are good, bad, or indifferent. 325 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,200 It seems like he has a pretty negative view, which surprises 326 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,920 me considering how hard he came down on the Collins elite, as 327 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,079 they're called, or the conservative Christians, because 328 00:17:22,079 --> 00:17:24,560 he claims that they wouldn't allow him to continue pursuing 329 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,119 disclosure or research on these things. 330 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:32,000 Let's take a listen here. There are many commentators who 331 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,800 say they're friendly, they're no threat at all to humanity. 332 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,880 Can we assume that? Well, I, I, I think in order to 333 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,440 understand if something is a threat from a national security 334 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:45,360 perspective, it's a very simple calculus to capabilities versus 335 00:17:45,360 --> 00:17:48,120 intent. We see some of the capabilities 336 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:49,560 and by the way, we can't replicate them. 337 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:54,120 We have no idea the intent. So to to presume or to assume 338 00:17:54,120 --> 00:17:57,400 that these things are friendly or they're hostile, there's not 339 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,960 enough data. Now Louis goes on to talk about 340 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:05,640 a little bit of the experiments that were done with Gary Nolan. 341 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,520 We've covered this in a podcast before where people were claimed 342 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,200 that they've been injured by these things. 343 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,840 And I'm talking about one fellow that was involved in the riddles 344 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:14,920 from forest actually got disability over it. 345 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:19,640 So he kind of hedges his his bets right there talking about 346 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,880 well, we don't know. But at the same time he tells us 347 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,360 that he's been subject to the hitchhiker effect. 348 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,480 His wife describes her life being turned upside down by 349 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,760 having these orbs in the house. It clearly to me, and he had 350 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:36,280 just gone into this whole thing about people being abducted, 351 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,480 alien implants, is that sort of thing. 352 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,920 Clearly Louis does view these things if not a threat on a 353 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:47,200 personal level or if not a threat on the national security 354 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:52,040 level, at least to be a very negative forces at the personal 355 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:53,640 level. Let's go ahead and take a look 356 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,520 at this next clip here. Also very interesting stuff. 357 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:00,040 Now, in this clip here, Louis specifically, you know, talks 358 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,040 about this Collins group, these conservative Christians that 359 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:08,400 were blocking him from getting the evidence that these giant 360 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:12,000 corporations, Lockheed Martin, I think Raytheon, a few others, 361 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:17,600 along with the alphabet agencies, the FDA, different 362 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,960 different departments were keeping him from finding out 363 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,720 where the actual alien bodies were stored at. 364 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:29,800 So think about this Louis, he's a, he's a OK. 365 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,440 He's a top level government employee, $150,000 a year, 366 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,200 previously worked at, you know, in the military and at Gitmo. 367 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:42,800 So he's on board now inside the Pentagon, but he's on board as 368 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,320 the employee overseeing this, what I would call a vanity 369 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,720 project that was personally put there by Harry Reid, a very 370 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,560 powerful senator at the time. And so it's a temporary program 371 00:19:55,120 --> 00:19:56,680 here. Louis has plopped down in the 372 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,360 middle of all these lifetime employees that probably been 373 00:19:59,360 --> 00:20:01,480 working in that five sided building for decades. 374 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,920 He's there on a program that's got a five year lifespan and a 375 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,760 $22 million budget and he thinks. 376 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,560 That he's going to go in there and they're just going to turn 377 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,480 over everything they have to him about UFOs. 378 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,680 That seems a little arrogant to me. 379 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,080 But we'll, we'll see what we'll see what Louis has to say about 380 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,880 that. Your investigations wanted to 381 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,600 investigate those samples and you were denied access. 382 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,080 We were, yeah. You became increasingly aware, 383 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,800 didn't you, that there were people in the Pentagon, in the 384 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,360 intelligence community, in private aerospace who didn't 385 00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:38,480 want you investigating Uaps? Absolutely. 386 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,400 We began to run into some fierce resistance, and the more we 387 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,120 continued to investigate, the increased level of that 388 00:20:45,120 --> 00:20:50,120 resistance became There were elements, the only way I can 389 00:20:50,120 --> 00:20:53,320 describe them as as religious fundamentalists. 390 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,120 It's a group that is euphemistically dubbed as the 391 00:20:56,120 --> 00:20:59,240 Columns Elite, isn't it? It is. 392 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,240 The Columns Elite has long been rumoured to be a cabal of 393 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,560 religious fanatics within the Pentagon. 394 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,640 Many consider them a myth. Elizondo thinks otherwise. 395 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,080 That that group is alive and well, it exists. 396 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,800 I I encountered elements of that group first hand. 397 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,960 And the gatekeepers inside the Pentagon who don't want the UAP 398 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,840 story investigated. That is correct, Ross. 399 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,440 There are religious fundamentalists inside the 400 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,000 Pentagon and inside the US government and specifically the 401 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:33,120 intelligence community that have a very, how shall I say, strict 402 00:21:33,120 --> 00:21:36,160 interpretation of their philosophical belief system. 403 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:40,600 Elizondo recounts 1 specific encounter with a high-ranking 404 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,520 member of this so-called Collins Elite. 405 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,920 He stopped me in the halls at the Pentagon. 406 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,680 He said, have you read your Bible lately? 407 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,200 And I was kind of surprised by the question. 408 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,000 Like, I mean, I know what the Bible says. 409 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,840 What may I ask specifically, what do you mean? 410 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,440 You know, what we're dealing with are are demons. 411 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,720 These are demonic beings and we shouldn't be looking at them 412 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,200 but. Aside from potential religious 413 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:08,240 motivations for the secrecy, Elizondo suggests there could 414 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:12,360 also be geopolitical considerations at play. 415 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,600 Do the Russians and the Chinese have recovered craft? 416 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,440 I can't speak on behalf of what the Russians or Chinese or any 417 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,680 adversaries may have or may not. Have well, could that be driving 418 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,320 our concern that we don't want to show our hand? 419 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,520 There's always a concern when a foreign adversary is looking at 420 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,840 something. There is this cat and mouse. 421 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,400 So it kind of devolves into there, and then Lurie brings up 422 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,200 about, well, people have been threatened, you know, that they 423 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:38,920 could get the Rosenberg treatment. 424 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,880 What I think he's trying to do in this backhanded, weird way is 425 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,520 to say, well, I, I could talk to you about disclosure, but the 426 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,840 Batty Christians won't let me. And it's to the point where 427 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,680 they're going to execute me if I do. 428 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,640 Look, if you're talking about some sort of high level space 429 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,320 weapon or something and you're giving away national secrets 430 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:04,000 like the Rosenbergs did with a nuclear bomb, then yeah, maybe 431 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:08,640 you could be. But I don't like the way that 432 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:13,920 Elizondo wants to blame everything on a particular group 433 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:18,040 of people who he thinks have certain beliefs. 434 00:23:18,360 --> 00:23:21,240 Now, I don't know why it's always okay to pick on the 435 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,480 Christians and not any other religious group. 436 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,800 That's what it seems like. Personally, I find Elizondo's 437 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,560 comments personally offensive. The way he acts this way and 438 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,040 even Coltart, we have these religious fanatics. 439 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,360 What's fanatics? I don't know, had the have these 440 00:23:36,360 --> 00:23:38,440 people been convicted of committing any kind of a crime? 441 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,840 If they have a fundamentalist view of the Bible or whatever, 442 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,880 that's their right. We don't call Muslim folks or 443 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:48,480 Latter Day Saints or Hindu or anybody else fanatics as long as 444 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,120 you're not blowing stuff up. That's that's kind of the 445 00:23:51,120 --> 00:23:55,080 definition of fanatics. So a person in this country, you 446 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,160 know, you have the 1st Amendment, you have the right to 447 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,560 believe whatever you want to believe. 448 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,920 And so Louis spends this interview basically explaining, 449 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,000 you know, what a negative energy force these things are showing 450 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,640 up at his house. The hitchhiker effect, the green 451 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,080 balls flying around his wife saying how it turned their life 452 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,320 upside down. And then he turns around and 453 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,600 says, well, this person says, did you read your Bible lately? 454 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,920 Well, name names, Louis. Tell us who it was. 455 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,960 That's what I would say. So here we go. 456 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,440 Like I said, we've got a guy who's working on A5 year vanity 457 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,840 project with a budget of $22 million. 458 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,520 Nobody said this job was going to last forever. 459 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,720 Louis. You got a five year gig where 460 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,120 you can go into an office, sit around and tell stories about 461 00:24:34,120 --> 00:24:38,080 UFOs and take trips to Brazil, five years, enjoy your time. 462 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,320 And then when you quit, you're upset that the program didn't 463 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,440 get refunded, didn't get, you know, continuation on funding, 464 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,320 which it was never meant to be a permanent thing. 465 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,760 Harry Reid did not have the right to go in and set up a 466 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,480 permanent program within the DoD. 467 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:54,960 They gave him five years, which is plenty. 468 00:24:55,360 --> 00:24:58,720 And I can see where this guy's interloper comes into these 469 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,720 inner circles of these DoD guys who are careers and he wants, 470 00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:05,360 show me this, show me that. Well, he's creating work for 471 00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:07,800 these people because now they got to go into their files. 472 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,240 They got to dig up all the stuff he's asking for. 473 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,480 It takes time. They've got to make sure that 474 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,760 it's not classified. And then another coin of it when 475 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,120 he's asked, well, could this be because of the Russians and the 476 00:25:18,120 --> 00:25:21,080 Chinese? Oh, sure, sure, it could be a 477 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,800 problem. So even though the UFO files 478 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:29,120 you're asking about could be a national security issue, if it's 479 00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:31,720 military stuff, because these things, say these things were 480 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,080 viewed around, you know, military operations, you want to 481 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,920 release this information even though it's not being released 482 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,040 because it could be a national security issue. 483 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,440 But you want to say that it's not being released because the 484 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,200 Batty Christians think that these things are demons and they 485 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,840 don't want to investigate it. Well, that's crazy. 486 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,600 They've already been investigated. 487 00:25:52,120 --> 00:25:56,920 That's the whole point. So I don't see if the if if 488 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,600 these guys were such fundamentalists and they thought 489 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,440 these UFOs were demons, I think they would just come out and say 490 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,720 it and they would say, well, this is like a natural 491 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,480 phenomenon, like like lightning or something. 492 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,120 Nothing we can do about it but pray. 493 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:12,760 It's like a bad weather event. But Louis, I think has has this 494 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:17,320 really bad attitude that he wasn't left in that a tip just 495 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,040 drawing a nice salary for a job where he really didn't have to 496 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,560 do anything for life. And I think that the program 497 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,600 ended, I think Louis got upset and he was looking for someone 498 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,240 to blame. And for whatever strange reason 499 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,800 that he has, he's him and Ross Coulter want to claim that 500 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,440 there's this secret cabal of Christians in the in the 501 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,480 Department of Defense called the Collins elite. 502 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,840 Oh, and they're taking over the intelligence community. 503 00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:43,480 I mean, you don't have to look very far through the 504 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,680 intelligence community and say, wow, does that seem very Christ 505 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:47,840 like. These people seem like 506 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,800 Christians putting up 38 weapon bio weapon labs in Ukraine. 507 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,080 Does that seem like a normal Christian thing to do? 508 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,320 I mean, come on. The idea that the deep state is 509 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:03,920 made-up of fundamentalist Christians is on the very face 510 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,000 of it, laughable. Now I want to take a look at 511 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:11,040 another clip or two here about Linda, about Louis basically 512 00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:14,000 claiming the financial ruination that he's had, he's had to 513 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:19,040 undergo because these really bad people who are fundamentalist 514 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,960 Christians would not, would not allow him to continue his 515 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,160 investigative work and wouldn't turn over all the files to him. 516 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,440 This is really kind of kind of crazy stuff, actually. 517 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:35,120 So Elizondo, after being persecuted so brutally by this 518 00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:38,840 secret cabal of fundamental Christians, the Collins elite, 519 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:44,760 you know, he just had enough and he quit his job, which I think 520 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,360 was temporary in the 1st place and decides to go public. 521 00:27:48,360 --> 00:27:49,760 And he talks about that a little bit here. 522 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,440 I would love to delve into this deeper, another program. 523 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,680 This whole situation with him and him and Tom Delong just 524 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,360 absolutely fascinates me. Go ahead and listen to this 525 00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:03,200 clip. Coming out was was for me one of 526 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,360 the most difficult experiences. Suddenly, Lou Elizondo's face 527 00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:10,040 became synonymous with the UFO question. 528 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,760 And now, with his days at the Pentagon behind him, Lou devoted 529 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:19,280 himself to the 'cause he took a job with To the Stars Academy, a 530 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:24,720 UFO research and advocacy group founded by Rockstar Tom Delong. 531 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,360 Together, they appeared on History Channel's Unidentified 532 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,360 Inside America's UFO investigation, which garnered 533 00:28:32,360 --> 00:28:36,200 him even more fame. Someone even started selling 534 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:40,080 T-shirts with his face. But that attention came at a 535 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,120 price. There were a lot of positives, 536 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,920 but things also were about to get bad, weren't they? 537 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:51,760 I I did not think that our lives would be this turned inside out 538 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,440 for this many years. It's exhausting. 539 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,600 It's exhausting. You suffered retribution, and in 540 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,120 fact, the Office of Special Investigations in the Air Force 541 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,360 began a criminal investigation against you, didn't they? 542 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,840 They did. What happened with that? 543 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,560 The, the initial allegation was that I was responsible for 544 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,840 unauthorized disclosure. And then I I stole classified 545 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,200 videos out of the Pentagon and a whole bunch of stuff. 546 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,520 And Long story short, the Air Force OSI came back and said, 547 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,080 Nope, actually, we seized the computers. 548 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,120 There's no wrongdoing, didn't take anything home, and he never 549 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,680 had a conversation about anything classified. 550 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,160 Everything's unclassified. Publicly, the Pentagon has also 551 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,360 denied Lou's claim that he was the head of ATIP. 552 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,920 So that was his wife here talking about how much trouble 553 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,560 they've endured. Well, once again, Louis is a 554 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,080 victim now. He talked about, I think he was 555 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,680 talking about the a tip video released. 556 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,840 And in this cult art interview, they talked to Christopher 557 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,520 Mellon, one of the players in that. 558 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,440 So we had this, like I said, I've talked about this 1000 559 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,720 times. We had this whole situation, 560 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,520 this triangulation between Christopher Mellon, Louis 561 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:03,440 Elizondo and the New York Times. And how did that Tic Tac video 562 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:08,040 and the other two get from the DoD vault or wherever it was at 563 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,640 into Louie's hands, into New York Times, into Tom Delong. 564 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,760 Tom Delong seems to be kind of this guy off the side now. 565 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:18,480 It's they talk about this job with Tom falling through once 566 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,880 again, we see Louis. I mean, he's the victim every 567 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,560 single time. And so he's working this job. 568 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,040 He's got a gravy job. It's a five year gig, OK? 569 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,720 He's making 150 grand a year, but yet somehow it's somebody 570 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,560 else's fault because the gig is up. 571 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,520 Well, Harry Reid and Bob Bigelow could only push that program for 572 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,600 so long before somebody's going to complain about it. 573 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,520 And I imagine that Louis being there in the bowels of the 574 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,440 Pentagon, instead of just being quiet and and writing up 575 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,280 multiple reports that didn't mean anything, started to rock 576 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,640 the boat. He wanted to see some of this 577 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,160 stuff. Maybe he really did think he was 578 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,720 supposed to find something out. I don't know. 579 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,280 But you can see. You can see the the dynamics. 580 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,000 We've got Louis with his little temporary program there, 581 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,960 probably got a little, you know, cubby hole office somewhere. 582 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,520 And he's having these interactions with these lifetime 583 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,360 people that have been in the DoD and he's wanting to see their 584 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,160 stuff. He's wanting to come into their 585 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,240 territory and find out what they know. 586 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,720 And of course you got to understand it's the military, 587 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,360 very compartmentalized. These guys are not going to 588 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,680 share their information with him, not without a court order 589 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:20,880 at least. And even then they'll probably 590 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,560 ignore it. So I get the feeling that Louis 591 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,960 was this kind of outside guy and they're just like, well, who are 592 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,200 you? And then when this video shows 593 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,840 up all of a sudden after Louise quit, people are like, hey, 594 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,160 how'd that get there? And naturally, people ask 595 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,320 questions. I ask questions. 596 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,600 But we're to believe that that was just simply Louis being 597 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,880 persecuted. I mean, we have a video that 598 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,600 showed up that, like I said, a million times Tom Delong puts on 599 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,200 his video channel with the giant to the Academy stars watermark 600 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,240 gets millions of views that we're not supposed to ask where 601 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,480 the video came from. Oh, it's a government video, all 602 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:56,760 right. It just showed up out of 603 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,360 nowhere. Well, don't we have a right to 604 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:00,640 know what the chain of custody is? 605 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,520 And apparently somebody in the DoD about that. 606 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,120 So that's not a secret, Gabal, of Christians that are 607 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,800 persecuting Louis. That's just people within the 608 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,240 DoD doing their job and saying, hey, what's the chain of custody 609 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,560 on this saying? And did you really do this right 610 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,480 even though it wasn't classified? 611 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,760 Is it OK for someone to profit off government property like 612 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,720 that before it's been released to the general public? 613 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,080 You're kind of you're kind of like working on inside 614 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,640 information. And I would like to know. 615 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,400 It says he was all over The History Channel. 616 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,480 Well, how much money did Lily make off this thing? 617 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,480 Why is he living in the camper down by the river? 618 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,600 If he's doing all this, all this stuff on television and he's 619 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,920 making these appearances and he's become a celebrity, I find 620 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,880 it hard to believe that he's that bankrupt. 621 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,680 I mean, could we see his, his, his tax returns? 622 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,160 I mean, he's telling us that he's been ruined. 623 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,080 These these terrible, terrible, fundamental Christians have 624 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,440 destroyed him financially and persecuted him to the point 625 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:59,000 where he had to leave his job. Well, much like the UFO stuff, 626 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,840 he's not showing us any hard evidence. 627 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,800 Now, let's take a look at this. We've got, I think, another one 628 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,440 or two clips here, and we'll wrap this up. 629 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:05,600 Now. Let's listen to this clip here 630 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,280 where they talk a little bit about Lou's financial 631 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,040 devastation that he's had to undergo because of all this 632 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,360 persecution from the DoD. On top of the reputational 633 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,520 attacks, Lou and his family were uprooted from their home as 634 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,840 Lou's new job to the STARS Academy called him to 635 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,040 California. Then the job fell through. 636 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,360 You'd essentially gone from fairly steady jobs, well paid in 637 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:35,360 Maryland, and you'd basically taken a complete financial bath. 638 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,840 I had to get a job at Target and then after that I got a job at 639 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,840 Home Depot. The family went from their house 640 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:47,560 in Maryland to this mobile home. Does it frustrate you sometimes 641 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,560 that people perhaps don't understand the sacrifice that 642 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,040 you and Lou and your family have had to endure? 643 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,080 Yeah, especially because everyone thinks we have all this 644 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,680 money. Oh, they're just grifting. 645 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:07,160 Come live for a day in my life. I guarantee you will run back to 646 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,080 yours. Why is this worth it, Lou? 647 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,920 I mean, you, you were AGS 15 and the Senior Executive Service of 648 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,560 the Defense Department. You ended up having to dig your 649 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,760 own pit toilet. You couldn't continue to pay 650 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:19,760 your rent. What? 651 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,560 Why is it worth it? I have two daughters and I have 652 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:28,199 a wife and we have been through hell, but there's a lot of 653 00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:29,719 people who had a lot worse than me. 654 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:34,120 I feel terrible because the stress I have put my family 655 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,159 through and what they've had to endure. 656 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,080 OK, that was a pretty emotional response from Louis. 657 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:43,239 I want to address a couple things as I wrap this up #1 so 658 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,480 they leave Washington DC and this apparently is after the Tic 659 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,000 Tac video magically appears on Tom's channel and they go to 660 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,560 tell they go to California to work for Tom Delong and they 661 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:54,840 show us some pictures there in the video. 662 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,200 I would love to know how that fell through. 663 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,400 I'm not sure that To the Academy Stars is really doing much. 664 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,320 It seems like what happened with that whole project was Tom 665 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,240 Delong got a lot of Free Press and then the band went on 666 00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:10,400 another tour and I think Tom's doing just fine. 667 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,400 Undoubtedly a multi multi millionaire. 668 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,360 I would be really interested to know how much Louis was paid 669 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:17,880 while he was working for those guys. 670 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:19,800 But it did open the door for Louis. 671 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,840 He got. I mean, it basically made him a 672 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,320 made member of the UFO mafia. I mean, he's on all kinds of 673 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:26,080 stuff. He's on Twitter. 674 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,160 He doesn't like you to talk about his tattoos, his height or 675 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,520 a lot of other stuff. He will block you on Twitter, 676 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,920 let me tell you that. But he's one of the main guys 677 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,960 now, so I don't know how he was financially ruined. 678 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,800 I don't get that. His wife says she had to work at 679 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,160 Target. OK, fine, whatever. 680 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,560 And then Coulter says, well, you had to live in a trailer. 681 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,720 Well, that's not an accurate representation of what he lived 682 00:35:47,720 --> 00:35:49,360 in. They show a fifth wheel. 683 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,600 They're a really nice one. Now, I don't know if you price 684 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,800 these big fifth wheel campers lately, but they cost as much as 685 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,080 a house. I mean, this thing had to be 686 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,440 about, I'm guessing, $100,000. I mean, not less than 50. 687 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,120 It looked new. And what's he pulling it with? 688 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,520 I mean, is he just sitting alongside the river somewhere in 689 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,880 his fifth wheel without enough money to pay for the camping 690 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,880 fees? So to me, that whole thing is 691 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:17,960 just an embellishment at best. They finally, they. 692 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,040 Coulter says, well, you were so poor you had to dig your own 693 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,040 pit. Oh, please. 694 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,920 Now, I don't know. I'm sure a lot of you folks 695 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,840 listen to this. I can tell by the demographics. 696 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,920 A lot of my listeners are in their 50s and 60s. 697 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,840 So you know a few things about life, and you know that if 698 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,760 you're at a campground where you're allowed to camp, there's 699 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,280 going to be some kind of facility there for you to do 700 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,480 your business. You probably also know that 701 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,560 you're not allowed in most states, or any state that I know 702 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:51,400 of, just to pull a camper into an empty lot somewhere and dig a 703 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,240 hole for your outhouse. Those days are gone. 704 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,880 If you have a place in the country where you're living, I 705 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:57,960 don't care if it's in a fifth wheel. 706 00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:00,520 These guys are going to force you to do one of two things. 707 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:04,160 You're either going to have contained tanks in that mobile 708 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,720 home or camp, or what do you want to call it to where you can 709 00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:09,600 pull that thing into the facilities. 710 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,080 Like I said, dump your black water off and then start over 711 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,360 again, or you're going to have a septic system built. 712 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,320 You're not allowed in this country anywhere, as far as I 713 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,160 know, to go live somewhere, OK, it's a permanent residence. 714 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:28,120 And instead of putting in a septic system, you're just 715 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,000 allowed to have an outhouse. Now, I'm sure that in some very 716 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,600 rural places, there might be houses like that grandfathered 717 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,240 in, But if you're doing new construction, if you're doing a 718 00:37:37,240 --> 00:37:40,320 new building site somewhere, you're going to have to have a 719 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,440 way to dispose of that because of the health risk. 720 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:49,560 So the idea that Louis was so crushed and persecuted by these 721 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:54,520 bad fundamental Christians known as the Collins elite that he 722 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,920 lost everything. He went to California, much like 723 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,680 the Clampets, to find his new life out there. 724 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,600 And things just fell through with Tom Delong. 725 00:38:03,720 --> 00:38:07,480 And he was so destitute that his wife had to take a job at 726 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:12,160 Target, and he was back at the campsite down by the river 727 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:17,080 somewhere, digging holes in which he could do his business 728 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,800 because he couldn't afford, apparently, to have the 729 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:26,560 Blackwater evacuated from his $100,000 pole behind camper. 730 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,680 Wow. The story with this guy is 731 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,080 something. And the story with him leaving 732 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,600 the ATIP program, I mean, everything he everything that 733 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,280 comes out of his mouth seems to be embellished and everything 734 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,000 that Louis talks about, he's the center of attention. 735 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,240 Every time things don't go his way, it's somebody elses fault. 736 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,080 So throughout this narrative I see at the very beginning, 737 00:38:51,240 --> 00:38:55,440 Louis, he has been put in charge of this part time program. 738 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,840 What a sweet gig. Please give me the five year gig 739 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:04,040 at 150 grand a year where I can sit in an office and write memos 740 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,600 about UFOs. I promise I won't bother 741 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,760 anybody. He's got that gig. 742 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,800 He's living large, but he decides to start poking around. 743 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,600 He thinks he's actually supposed to investigate UFOs. 744 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,960 But Louis seems to have taken a different tract. 745 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,200 He seems to have thought that he's still in persons, the 746 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,720 persona of Darth Vader, and he will go out there and 747 00:39:23,720 --> 00:39:25,560 investigate where no man has ever gone. 748 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:31,360 And he found out that he was a tiny little guppy in a big pool 749 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:35,960 of sharks who didn't want to be bothered by him and his request 750 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:40,360 to see things. Now, maybe along the line he did 751 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,520 meet somebody who was a conservative Christian type who 752 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,400 said, have you read your Bible? But that does not mean that 753 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,920 fundamental Christians or some made-up group, the Collins 754 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,480 elite, control the deep state and the intelligence agencies is 755 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,520 Louis is implying and that they ganged up on him to end his 756 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,880 program, which already had a definitive beginning and a 757 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,080 definitive ending. Here's your five year program, 758 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,680 Louis. Enjoy your $150,000 a year for 759 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,840 the next five years and when it's done, see the hand. 760 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,880 Nope, not Louis. He's got to blame the Christians 761 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,600 for that. They've been picking on him. 762 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,400 And I suppose it was also the Christian's fault that when he 763 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,400 left to go work for Tom Delong that that job fell through. 764 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,800 And then we're to believe that we're showed this beautiful pull 765 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,240 behind camper that goes on. It's a fifth wheel that goes on 766 00:40:25,240 --> 00:40:27,400 a pickup truck. It would have taken a pretty 767 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,120 nice truck to pull it. Worse, we're to believe in that 768 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:34,800 the the camper is shown parked under a carport, but somehow 769 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,680 we're told that Louis was living in a trailer, I'm assuming down 770 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,240 by the river, and he was so poor he could not afford indoor 771 00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:46,600 plumbing, even though these fancy campers come with built in 772 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,240 indoor plumbing. That's the whole point, that he 773 00:40:49,240 --> 00:40:52,760 was so poor that while his wife was off working at Target, he 774 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,520 was digging a septic pit for himself to do his business in. 775 00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:01,320 Give me a break that this is not what we need for disclosure and 776 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:05,040 this is not the kind of person that we need representing people 777 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:06,640 who are curious about disclosure. 778 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,800 Like I've always said, go outside, look up, do your own 779 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,200 disclosure and do not depend upon these people to tell us 780 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,000 things that we already know. Until next time, this is UFO 781 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,280 warning over and out.