Hello, and welcome to the program UFO Warning.
In this episode, we're asking, did a tip talk to demons?
That's correct. Did a tip talk to demons?
Now, before we get into this, it's important to remember what
a tip is. Or was actually a tip That's a
ATIP stands for the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification
Program and we go to Wikipedia. I think we can depend on them
for a generic definition of this organization.
And they say the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification
Program was an unclassified but unpublicized investigatory
effort funded by the United States government to study
unidentified flying objects UF O's or unexplained aerial
phenomena. UAP The program was first made
public on December 6th, 2017. The program began in 2007 with
funding of $22 million over the five years until the available
appropriations were ended. In 2012, the program began in
the US Defense Intelligence Agency.
Now, the whole thing just sounds sketchy to me from the very
start. Unpublicized but not considered
secret Okay. Secondly, it's just funded by
this appropriation. Of course Harry Reid was behind
it, the late Harry Reid. It just sounds to me like
another one of these slush fund projects that somebody gets for
their buddy. You know, you scratch my back,
I'll scratch yours. I don't know, just my opinion.
Now it goes on. It says, according to the
Department of Defense, ATIP ended in 2012 after five years.
However, reporting suggested that U.S. government programs to
investigate UFO's continued. This was confirmed in June of
2020 with the acknowledgement of a similar military program, the
unclassified but previously unreported Unidentified Aerial
Phenomena Task Force. Now you can see these things are
just popping up like mushrooms. There's so much money slotched
around there in Washington, DC, nobody knows where it's all
going at. There's just no accountability.
Which is fine to have a strong defense, but you have a multiple
UFO investigative task force and nobody even knows you know that
the left hand doesn't know what the right hand's doing it, says
Luis Elizondo, who has claimed to be the ATIP program director
went on to work for Wait for It to the Stars Academy of Arts and
Science in 2017. Elizondo left the company in
2020. Now, who runs the to the stars
of Academy of Arts and Science, the most convoluted name known
to man? Well, Tom the Long.
So keep that in mind as we pick up on this down the road a
little bit in this podcast talking about Did a tip talk to
demons? Because if a tip talked to
demons, then Louis Elizondo was talking to demons, allegedly.
And we have to wonder what Tom thought about that.
Now I'm going to get to, I'm going to get to Louise's role in
this and how some people apparently thought that he was.
That's according to Louis Okay. We'll find out here in just a
minute. Now, of course, a tip was
started by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Democrat
Nevada. He's passed away since as the
Advanced Aerospace Weapons Systems application program.
A a WSAP no end of these things to study unexplained aerial
phenomena at the urging of Reid's friend, Nevada
billionaire and government contractor Robert Bigelow.
See how this works? Just turns out that some of
these government contractors are also big contributors to
whatever power, whatever party's in power.
And with support from the late Senators Ted Stevens,
Republican, Republican Alaska, and Daniel anyway, Democrat
Hawaii, this guy's also all passed.
The program began in the DI in 2007.
It was budgeted $22 million over its five year operation.
I think it goes on, talks a little bit about, you know, what
they think happened. The fact is we don't know what
happened. They don't.
They dumped $22 million into this budgeted thing.
Elizondo says he was in charge of it.
Have no reason to believe that he wasn't my opinion.
Just another $22 million dumped down the government rat hole
where you have a bunch of people sit around all day playing their
cell phone. Probably didn't have a cell
phone right away back then, but playing their computer, claim
that they're doing this and that, write endless memos and
reports that mean nothing, and then draw a nice large salary
and a pension when they leave. And then they take that job they
were given and parlay that into endless appearances on The
History Channel and UFO conferences.
But I digress. Now I want to get into this
story that's come out where Louis Elizondo claims that the
Christians are persecuting him. Yes, the Christians, those bad,
evil Christians are at it again, terrorizing Louis Elizondo
apparently in the past, and it's all their fault that he couldn't
find UFO's. Now remember, Louis Elizondo is
the guy that has told us that, you know, when this whole thing
breaks, all the religions of the world are going to be gone.
All of our past, you know, thoughts about culture and
belief systems and all this is going to be wiped away.
But no worries. Louise's going to help us
readjust to the alien takeover. Now let's go ahead and look at
this article right here. Just see what in the world is
going on. Now, to get an idea of how this
whole thing's being framed in the public, let's go to
thisrelevantmagazine.com, written by Emily Brown September
29th, 2023. The title says Christian
Pentagon officials halted UFO research over fear that aliens
are demons. I'll repeat that Christian
Pentagon officials halted UFO research over fear that aliens
are demons. Now that's a pretty bold
statement to make that without any evidence to back it up.
So let's just continue on here. It says a UFO researchers
claiming that Pentagon commanders are trying to put the
brakes on extraterrestrial studies due to their Christian
beliefs. Ron James, director of media
relations for the UFO research group MUFON, has shared that
U.S. government officials are concerned about are concerned
aliens might actually be demons in disguise.
James said that the government sanctioned Advanced Aerospace
Threat Identification Program faced opposition from a very
large contingent of people within the Pentagon who believe
the unidentified aerial phenomenon reported by U.S.
military sources were potentially piloted by creatures
from Hell Okay. So that's a pretty big statement
and it looks like MUFON is is a nickel ruffle over Louis,
Elizondo and ATEP. So all of a sudden now we come
out with all of these statements saying that the Pentagon is run
by right wing Christians who are preventing people from studying
aliens. It's interesting considering the
current state of the DoD. James went on to share that
Louis Elizondo. That's that is secondhand
information. The head of ATIP struggled to
get proper funding because of this group of individuals,
Elizondo allegedly said. It, quote, was not just a little
voice in the Pentagon, but a huge group of people thought the
phenomena that was being witnessed was demons.
UN quote, Okay. Those are the accusations that
Louis Elizondo's made his His project couldn't get funding, he
says, because of these closeminded Christians.
Well, the fact is, the only reason that his project got
funding in the 1st place was because Harry Reid, the late
Senator Harry Reid, Bob Bigelow, I guess encouraged him to do
this. Thought it'd be a fun idea to
pour $20 million into a project instead of UF O's.
And for them to come along and just say, well, this is this is
not a secret program, but it's not public and we should be
funded and there shouldn't be any kind of transparency or
accountability. And if somebody higher up the
food chain says, you know, I'm not sure if that's a good idea
to be funding these what amount to these small departments on
these five year plans because a powerful senator thinks that's
that that's a good idea. Someone questions that funding,
then all of a sudden they're closeminded.
But let's just continue, it says.
Despite religious leaders, including Pope Francis
acknowledging that there is likely life on other planets,
this group of officials are wary.
In fact, Jones mentioned his conversation with Christian US
Congressman Tim Burchett. Quote, I sat down and
interviewed him, Jones said. His feeling was that if you look
in the Bible and you look at Ezekiel building the wheel,
there's a lot of people that think that was a spaceship,
Jones clarified on Julian Dorsey's podcast.
He does not think animals are demons, but simply beings from a
different universe. Well, the fact is we don't know
what they are. Now I'm going to go ahead and
look at this next article kind of along the same lines, but I
think you can kind of get a feel for what's going on here.
It's as if Louise upset that his his pet project has been the
funding has not been restarted. Fact is he only got $20 million
to begin with. Fact is, there are other
agencies that are investigating departments and projects
investigating UFOs. But I find it interesting that
Louis Elizondo wants to come out and publicly attack unnamed
individuals within the DoD who he claims are closedminded and
he particularly wants to attack Christians now.
This is from the Daily starter dot Co dot UK.
It says Bible reading and Pentagon commanders halted UFO
research over fears aliens were demons.
And here again we have this very slanted, very biased headline as
if somehow it's a crime to read the Bible.
This is written by Michael Moran, audience writer.
It says September 29th Pentagon commanders have clamped down on
research into extraterrestrials because of their religious
belief. It's claimed once again, look at
the DoD right now and kind of the world culture that is part
of that, rightly or wrongly. So I don't think you can look at
the current situation in the DoD and say, Oh well, these are just
a bunch of conservative lunatics, but that's the kind of
the paint the picture they're trying to paint here.
Leading UFO researcher John James.
Ron James says senior figures in the US government fear aliens
are in fact demons. Ron, who is director of media
relations for UFO research group MUFON, claims there is a very
large contingent of people within the Pentagon who oppose
the work of Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program
because they think UA P's regularly reported by U.S.
military sources are piloted by creatures from hell.
I have to tell you, I am deeply disappointed with MUFON that
they would involve themself with something like this on such a
political level, especially where they're unnamed sources.
So they're taking Louis Elizondo at his word.
So Louis Elizondo, in my opinion, has infected the
culture at MUFON. So without naming anybody in
particular, Mufon comes out with this very antichristian stance.
If they were saying this sort of stuff against pretty much any
other religion, this would just be front page news, your bigots.
It goes on and says he says he was told by Louis Elizondo, who
was gone on record as being the boss of a tip.
It was not just a little voice in the Pentagon, but a huge
group of people that thought the phenomena that was being
witnessed was demons. I wonder if Louis Elizondo
wasn't viewed as this outsider. I mean, you, you what, 2007, you
have Harry Reid and Bob Bigelow decided that they would like to
investigate UFOs, and he has a broad brush to paint this topic
with. So they give him an office at
the Pentagon, this huge giant building.
You have to wonder if some of these people there didn't just
think what this is. You know, if they didn't feel
like maybe their turf was being encroached on a bit and maybe
they weren't just a little bit critical, that it really seems
to me like Reid went outside the normal chain of command to fund
this thing. Just kind of here's here's the
little guy and $20 million walking around the Pentagon.
I mean, I'm sure a lot of these guys were like, what is this guy
doing here now? It goes on here.
It says the fundamentalist Christian lobby within the US
defense establishment. Well, we can see how powerful
that is actually affected Elizondo's ability to get
funding. Ron says once again, he didn't
get Louis. Elizondo was not a normally
funded agency Okay. It was a one off deal.
Senator Harry Reid. Late Senator Harry Reid decided
along with the help of his friend and donor Bob Bigelow
that it would be that it would be fun to take $20 million of
taxpayers money and dump this height impaired person into the
Pentagon and claim they were studying UFOs.
Well, you've had the Pentagon, which is I'm sure a very
rigorously organized culture at some level.
And then you just from the outside dump Louie in there with
$20 million and he's going to invest, investigate UF O's.
I'm surprised that these guys shared anything with them.
And I would have to imagine the people that already worked there
would have wanted to get him out of their building as soon as
possible. I don't understand why his
department had to be at the Pentagon.
I don't get that. But according to Louie, it's not
the. It's not that he didn't operate
the actual department, Okay. It was a project, more or less.
It's not. It's not that it wasn't
something that's been going on for 50 years.
No, according to Louis, he couldn't get his funding because
these bigoted Christians didn't like him.
Well, the fact is, Louis had a job for five years because a
powerful senator and a billionaire donor thought it
would be fun to create this project.
Dump it in the Pentagon bowels, Give him $20 million and he
could run around claiming he was investigating UFOs.
The fact that that project ended after the funding ran out
shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.
It's got nothing to do with somebody's bigoted beliefs.
It's got a lot more to do with who the power players are in
Washington now. Louis did parlay that five year
stint into being a member of the what I like to call UFO Mafia,
the celebrity gang that we see constantly on television telling
us how things are going to be. He got that much out of it, but
he's not happy with that. Louie has to come out and attack
people who have traditional religious beliefs and he doesn't
even bother to tell us who the guy was that made these comments
to him OK. He just comes out with his
story, doesn't name any sources, and it makes these wild
accusations. And then the press, which is I
think is already biased toward anybody with those kind of
beliefs anyway, they come out and run with the story and then
all of a sudden we're led to believe once again, as we so
often are in today's media, that conservative folks or Christians
are. I don't even think it matters
what religion they are, as long as they're they, they, they bend
toward a certain moral character.
All of a sudden, these are the bad guys, and Louis is right in
there just feeding the fire. I can understand why the people
that worked around Louie probably thought, wow, what a
waste of $20 million. You know, you have to wonder.
The next thing I want to look at is a Twitter thread that's been
put up by a user. I follow her and she's done an
excellent job compiling some of this stuff.
I want to look at the some of the excerpts that she's put
together and some of the comments by Louie, by Louie
Elizondo and by George Knapp. Now I found this Twitter thread.
It's posted by who is Axelrod and it says at Go Sub Kick Sub
Rocks 88. I'll put the link at the Buy me
a coffee website. You can all go also go to my
Twitter feed at Warning Sub UFO and look this up.
She has done, I think, an excellent job of of putting a
bunch of this information together and sourcing everything
and really I think brings the thing together.
What's happening here is, well, Louis Elizondo is telling people
that he was persecuted by Christians because he they
wouldn't, they wouldn't continue funding on his pet project that
Harry Reid and billionaire donor Bob Bigelow had put together for
him at the Pentagon for five years.
Must be a nice ride, $20 million for five years.
Who knows where the money went. He's upset about that, telling
us that, hey, when the aliens show up, all the world's
religions are going to disappear.
Everything will be upside down. But, you know, don't worry about
it. Louis is going to be here to
guide you through it. At the same time, he's giving
you the business about this. You have people, and you have
people like Tom Delong and George Knapp setting themselves
up as authorities on UF O's. We have audio clips of them
talking about how these things are actually really scary.
Okay, the the exact opposite. While they're putting this front
out to you that hey, it's all kumbaya, we're going to talk to
the aliens is awesome. If you have any doubt that these
things are coming here with anything but good intentions,
well, you're just a silly, oh conservative Christian.
A shame on you. You know you're a Luddite
whatever. But in the background, they're
having the same reservation as a lot of people are.
And if these things are bad, maybe they're really bad.
Just a thought now, she begins this article on Twitter.
Off it says new DoD officials think the phenomena is demonic.
That's the title. And then it repeats what I just
said. Ron James from Move On says
senior officials in the US government fear aliens are in
fact demons. Ron claims that there is a very
large contingent of people within the Pentagon who oppose
the work of a tit because they think the UA P's regulatory
reported by U.S. military sources are piled by creatures
from hell. He says he was told by Louis
Elizondo, who has gone on record as being the boss of ATIP.
It was not just a little voice in the Pentagon, but a huge
group of people thought the phenomena that was being
witnessed was demons. Now I have some real problems
with this and like I said, I'm very sad to see a move on fall
into this trap with Louis Elizondo.
They're making big statements. They're painting with A broad
brush based on the claims of Louis Elizondo, with absolutely
not a single name to back it up now.
And she lists the same sources here we just went over.
Then it says we need more information on this from those
people inside the DoD. Jay Stratton said he saw it in
writing once. Once again, I saw it, but I
can't show you, George Knapp says.
This is George Knapp. I've heard these stories from
people we know about fundamentalist religious people,
high ups who are concerned about his demons or were messing with
forces of biblical proportions. So George, yeah, George is going
to step out. He's going to throw some people
under the bus. Of course, we can't name him.
Then Jay Stratton. There's absolutely some concern
there. I did see it in writing one time
in my career where someone was asking me to push back because
of their religious concerns. And you should wave off.
This topic is literally what they were telling me.
You shouldn't be involved in this.
Once again, we don't have any proof.
You can't give us a name, just more of these accusations
against unnamed people. And then it says Louie Elizondo.
Of course now we have Louie. I was pulled into the office
with one of these seniors and he looked me in the eye and said I
want this program to stop. I said okay, but what's the
rationale? He said what you were looking at
is something that is a demonic presence.
Now I have some problems with that, Louis, He likes it.
He seems like he wants to imply that his project with his was
this long ongoing thing where it had been funded for decades.
That is not what happened. Louis had a job in the Pentagon
simply because Senator Harry Reid made sure that that project
was funded. It would be like if somebody
gave you a check for $20 million and said go spend four days a
week at the Pentagon. It's ridiculous.
So the the DoD was an under as far as I can tell, under no
obligation to give another five years of funding or whatever to
Louise project. It was a one off deal, you know.
Seems like a nice like a nice paid vacation to me.
Now she's got some nice little meme here and then it goes on
here. This is there's this just a
short one minute video which I do want to play and this says
same senior Stratton spoke to. I was pulled in the office, one
of these seniors. One of these seniors and he
looked me in the eye and said I want this program to stop.
I said okay, but what's the rationale?
He said what you're looking at is something that is demonic
president Louis Elizondo. So I'm going to play this one
minute clip here with Louis and I think it's.
I think it's worth listening to. Some officials that I talked to
told me that they thought there was resistance in the Pentagon
on religious grounds, that effectively you had some senior
officers who were Christians who thought looking into this kind
of voodoo stuff was dangerous. I was.
Pulled into the office of one of these seniors, the senior looked
at me in the eye and said I want this program to stop.
He said, Well, OK, but what's the rationale?
And he said well. What you are looking at is
something that is a demonic presence.
There's a. Faction in the government, high
up in the Pentagon of religious fundamentalists who are
concerned that anything paranormal or supernatural is
demonic in origin. That flying saucers represent
demons. That if you study this, that
you're inviting the devil and Satan into your world.
You're telling me to ignore it because it goes against your
philosophical belief system? Well that's the thing they face
in Afghanistan and in the Middle East there's no difference.
Only you're wearing a three piece suit and they're carrying
a Kalashnikov. So I couldn't believe what I was
hearing, Elizondo says his. Superiors, religious beliefs
hindered his mission to get the government to take UFO
seriously. And so there you have Louis
Elizondo comparing conservative Christians to Muslim terrorists
in Afghanistan. Nice.
And like I said once again, he implies there that this project
that he says he was in charge of ATIP was something that was just
continually funded year after year.
That's not how it was. I'll say it one more time.
It was funded for five years. It was almost like a vanity
project that was written into law by a very powerful senator,
Senator Harry Reid, at the urging of billionaire and
government contractor Robert Bigelow.
So it's almost as if somebody kind of interfered a little bit
with Louie's sweetheart deal he had going on.
It wouldn't reup it for another five years and he's not happy
about that. Now I want to look at this tweet
here from Tom Delong also plays into this.
You know, we've heard so much from Tom Delong, all the stories
of him with with to the stars of Academy, how he got the TikTok
video, the Tic Tac videos posted on YouTube.
I've been through that a million times on the podcast and also
with Tom telling us, you know how, how great the Department of
Defense is because they're protecting us.
Protecting us from all these dangers.
How he was shown things regarding this aliens and then
he couldn't sleep for three days, but he can't talk about it
on and on and on. Just setting himself up there.
Some sort of UFO celebrity part of this UFO mafia.
But I found she, this lady here who was Axelrod.
She posted this tweet from August 22nd, 2020 at Tom Delong.
It says used to think UF O's were cool and now dash.
Nope, all capitals used to think UF O's were cool and now Nope,
don't think they're cool anymore.
Now it says that earlier in Wikipedia we found that Louis
had worked at two of the stars until 2020.
Maybe there was some kind of a falling out, I don't know.
She's also, so she's got a post on here about this former
Defense Department employee who was publicly a Satan worshipper
and talks about that a little bit.
I'm not really buying this that the conservative Christians have
taken over the Dodi mean I think the DoD is just this big giant,
basically nonreligious department and I'm not seeing
this takeover by a fundamentalist.
I'm just seeing a bunch of different people that that work
there. I mean, they have to accommodate
every religion. So I'm a little bit annoyed with
Louis for coming out and trying to make it seem like he was
persecuted. You know, the fact is funding is
funding. And if you wanted, if you wanted
to be funded by, if you want his department funded, then he has
to go to Congress and ask for money just like anybody else.
Now she's got another short audio clip here I'm going to
play. And this clip, Knapp says it can
do all kinds of stuff. It seems to feed off fear and be
very dark and threatening at times.
I remember laughing at people who would say it's not aliens,
it's demons. I couldn't laugh anymore.
I'm not so sure about that. Wow.
Well, there's George Knapp not that long ago telling us that,
hey, maybe these things are demons.
While he is saying how poor Louis was criticized by
conservative Christians, here's Tom Delong.
There's a very, very strange link between what people think
demons are from the Bible and other religions and the UFO
phenomenon. What you have is something that
doesn't like man, period. Whatever you call it, there are
dark aspects to the phenomena. Is it the same phenomena as a
nuts and bolts craft people are seeing in the sky or is it
something different altogether? Well, there you go.
So while these guys are publicly telling you that, like I said,
that it's all Kumbaya comes around the campfire with the
aliens, they've got real reservations themselves while
they're complaining that Louis Elizondo was.
Or at least while George is complaining that Louis Elizondo
was persecuted by Christians in the Defense Department because
he couldn't get more funding for a program that was only funded
for five years. While he's saying, oh, these
these baddies won't let won't let Louis investigate, he's on
the radio saying, man, these things are pretty scary.
Now listen to this excerpt. It's only like I think less than
20 seconds. But it it can do all kinds of
stuff. It seems to feed off of fear.
It could be very dark and threatening at times.
I I remember laughing at people who would say it's not aliens,
it's demons. I I couldn't laugh anymore.
I'm not so sure about that. There there is a.
Very, very strong. Link between what people think
demons are from the Bible and other religions and the UFO
phenomenon and what you have is something that doesn't like man.
Period. You can hear from that excerpt
right there that between Tom Delong and George Knapp that
both these guys really see that these aliens seem to have a evil
side, a dark side, and Delong comparing them to demons.
And I think it's an accurate assessment.
And I just wish that these guys would be more open and
forthcoming about this stuff. I mean, they, they seem to want
to play both sides of the fence. You have George Knapp talking
about poor Louis being, you know, persecuted by these
Christians. You have Louis coming out and
saying, well, I wasn't funded because he's Christian
fundamentalists. Were were.
They thought that I was talking to demons and and I shouldn't be
researching these aliens at all. The whole fact of the matter is,
is that as I said dozen times, Elizondo was funded through this
program simply because of a powerful senator and a curious
rich billionaire donor. And this wasn't an ongoing
program or department that was funded year after year.
So if it's funding right now, well, it ran out because the
contract had run out, had nothing to do with Christians or
anybody else for that matter. So I think we can start to see
this dynamic being set up here, this narrative of the deep state
once again. They always have to have a good
guy and a bad guy and there's in this situation, it's almost like
these aliens that we don't know what they are, we don't know
anything about them. Well, they're going to be the
good guys, the benevolent ones and the Christian people, the
people that you know, we're told to love your neighbor like
yourself. Well, they're going to be the
bad guys. They're the evil persecutors.
So I I'm disappointed and move on for interjecting themselves
into this narrative, especially with Louis Elizondo.
Without a shred of evidence, without a single name.
I I mean, I expect this kind of behavior out of Louis because
he's always looking for the next camera to stare into, it seems
like. But I'd hope that MUFON, a
national organization for the reporting of UFOs, would have
been a little more cognizant of the facts and a little more
questioning of Louis Elizondo, as we asked.
Did a tip? Talk to demons.
Until next time, this is UFO Warning.
Over and out.