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Hello, and welcome to the 
program UFO Warning. 

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In this episode, we're asking, 
did a tip talk to demons? 

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That's correct. 
Did a tip talk to demons? 

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Now, before we get into this, 
it's important to remember what 

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a tip is. 
Or was actually a tip That's a 

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ATIP stands for the Advanced 
Aerospace Threat Identification 

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Program and we go to Wikipedia. 
I think we can depend on them 

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for a generic definition of this
organization. 

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And they say the Advanced 
Aerospace Threat Identification 

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Program was an unclassified but 
unpublicized investigatory 

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effort funded by the United 
States government to study 

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unidentified flying objects UF 
O's or unexplained aerial 

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phenomena. 
UAP The program was first made 

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public on December 6th, 2017. 
The program began in 2007 with 

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funding of $22 million over the 
five years until the available 

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appropriations were ended. 
In 2012, the program began in 

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the US Defense Intelligence 
Agency. 

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Now, the whole thing just sounds
sketchy to me from the very 

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start. 
Unpublicized but not considered 

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secret Okay. 
Secondly, it's just funded by 

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this appropriation. 
Of course Harry Reid was behind 

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it, the late Harry Reid. 
It just sounds to me like 

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another one of these slush fund 
projects that somebody gets for 

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their buddy. 
You know, you scratch my back, 

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I'll scratch yours. 
I don't know, just my opinion. 

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Now it goes on. 
It says, according to the 

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Department of Defense, ATIP 
ended in 2012 after five years. 

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However, reporting suggested 
that U.S. government programs to

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investigate UFO's continued. 
This was confirmed in June of 

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2020 with the acknowledgement of
a similar military program, the 

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unclassified but previously 
unreported Unidentified Aerial 

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Phenomena Task Force. 
Now you can see these things are

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just popping up like mushrooms. 
There's so much money slotched 

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around there in Washington, DC, 
nobody knows where it's all 

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going at. 
There's just no accountability. 

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Which is fine to have a strong 
defense, but you have a multiple

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UFO investigative task force and
nobody even knows you know that 

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the left hand doesn't know what 
the right hand's doing it, says 

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Luis Elizondo, who has claimed 
to be the ATIP program director 

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went on to work for Wait for It 
to the Stars Academy of Arts and

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Science in 2017. 
Elizondo left the company in 

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2020. 
Now, who runs the to the stars 

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of Academy of Arts and Science, 
the most convoluted name known 

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to man? 
Well, Tom the Long. 

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So keep that in mind as we pick 
up on this down the road a 

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little bit in this podcast 
talking about Did a tip talk to 

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demons? 
Because if a tip talked to 

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demons, then Louis Elizondo was 
talking to demons, allegedly. 

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And we have to wonder what Tom 
thought about that. 

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Now I'm going to get to, I'm 
going to get to Louise's role in

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this and how some people 
apparently thought that he was. 

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That's according to Louis Okay. 
We'll find out here in just a 

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minute. 
Now, of course, a tip was 

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started by Senate Majority 
Leader Harry Reid, Democrat 

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Nevada. 
He's passed away since as the 

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Advanced Aerospace Weapons 
Systems application program. 

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A a WSAP no end of these things 
to study unexplained aerial 

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phenomena at the urging of 
Reid's friend, Nevada 

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billionaire and government 
contractor Robert Bigelow. 

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See how this works? 
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these government contractors are
also big contributors to 

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whatever power, whatever party's
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And with support from the late 
Senators Ted Stevens, 

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Republican, Republican Alaska, 
and Daniel anyway, Democrat 

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Hawaii, this guy's also all 
passed. 

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The program began in the DI in 
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It was budgeted $22 million over
its five year operation. 

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I think it goes on, talks a 
little bit about, you know, what

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they think happened. 
The fact is we don't know what 

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happened. 
They don't. 

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They dumped $22 million into 
this budgeted thing. 

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Elizondo says he was in charge 
of it. 

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Have no reason to believe that 
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Just another $22 million dumped 
down the government rat hole 

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where you have a bunch of people
sit around all day playing their

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cell phone. 
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phone right away back then, but 
playing their computer, claim 

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that they're doing this and 
that, write endless memos and 

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reports that mean nothing, and 
then draw a nice large salary 

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and a pension when they leave. 
And then they take that job they

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were given and parlay that into 
endless appearances on The 

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History Channel and UFO 
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But I digress. 
Now I want to get into this 

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story that's come out where 
Louis Elizondo claims that the 

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Christians are persecuting him. 
Yes, the Christians, those bad, 

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evil Christians are at it again,
terrorizing Louis Elizondo 

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apparently in the past, and it's
all their fault that he couldn't

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find UFO's. 
Now remember, Louis Elizondo is 

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the guy that has told us that, 
you know, when this whole thing 

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breaks, all the religions of the
world are going to be gone. 

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All of our past, you know, 
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belief systems and all this is 
going to be wiped away. 

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But no worries. 
Louise's going to help us 

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readjust to the alien takeover. 
Now let's go ahead and look at 

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this article right here. 
Just see what in the world is 

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going on. 
Now, to get an idea of how this 

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whole thing's being framed in 
the public, let's go to 

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thisrelevantmagazine.com, 
written by Emily Brown September

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29th, 2023. 
The title says Christian 

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Pentagon officials halted UFO 
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are demons. 
I'll repeat that Christian 

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Pentagon officials halted UFO 
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are demons. 
Now that's a pretty bold 

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statement to make that without 
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So let's just continue on here. 
It says a UFO researchers 

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claiming that Pentagon 
commanders are trying to put the

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brakes on extraterrestrial 
studies due to their Christian 

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beliefs. 
Ron James, director of media 

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relations for the UFO research 
group MUFON, has shared that 

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U.S. government officials are 
concerned about are concerned 

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aliens might actually be demons 
in disguise. 

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James said that the government 
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Threat Identification Program 
faced opposition from a very 

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large contingent of people 
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the unidentified aerial 
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military sources were 
potentially piloted by creatures

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from Hell Okay. 
So that's a pretty big statement

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and it looks like MUFON is is a 
nickel ruffle over Louis, 

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Elizondo and ATEP. 
So all of a sudden now we come 

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out with all of these statements
saying that the Pentagon is run 

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by right wing Christians who are
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aliens. 
It's interesting considering the

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current state of the DoD. 
James went on to share that 

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Louis Elizondo. 
That's that is secondhand 

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information. 
The head of ATIP struggled to 

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get proper funding because of 
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Elizondo allegedly said. 
It, quote, was not just a little

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voice in the Pentagon, but a 
huge group of people thought the

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phenomena that was being 
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UN quote, Okay. 
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Louis Elizondo's made his His 
project couldn't get funding, he

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says, because of these 
closeminded Christians. 

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Well, the fact is, the only 
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funding in the 1st place was 
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Senator Harry Reid, Bob Bigelow,
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this. 
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pour $20 million into a project 
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And for them to come along and 
just say, well, this is this is 

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not a secret program, but it's 
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funded and there shouldn't be 
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accountability. 
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food chain says, you know, I'm 
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to be funding these what amount 
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these five year plans because a 
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that that's a good idea. 
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then all of a sudden they're 
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But let's just continue, it 
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Despite religious leaders, 
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acknowledging that there is 
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this group of officials are 
wary. 

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In fact, Jones mentioned his 
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Congressman Tim Burchett. 
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interviewed him, Jones said. 
His feeling was that if you look

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in the Bible and you look at 
Ezekiel building the wheel, 

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there's a lot of people that 
think that was a spaceship, 

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Jones clarified on Julian 
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He does not think animals are 
demons, but simply beings from a

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different universe. 
Well, the fact is we don't know 

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what they are. 
Now I'm going to go ahead and 

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look at this next article kind 
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think you can kind of get a feel
for what's going on here. 

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It's as if Louise upset that his
his pet project has been the 

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funding has not been restarted. 
Fact is he only got $20 million 

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to begin with. 
Fact is, there are other 

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agencies that are investigating 
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investigating UFOs. 
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Louis Elizondo wants to come out
and publicly attack unnamed 

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individuals within the DoD who 
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he particularly wants to attack 
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This is from the Daily starter 
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It says Bible reading and 
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research over fears aliens were 
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And here again we have this very
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if somehow it's a crime to read 
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This is written by Michael 
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It says September 29th Pentagon 
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research into extraterrestrials 
because of their religious 

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belief. 
It's claimed once again, look at

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the DoD right now and kind of 
the world culture that is part 

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of that, rightly or wrongly. 
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the current situation in the DoD
and say, Oh well, these are just

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a bunch of conservative 
lunatics, but that's the kind of

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the paint the picture they're 
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Leading UFO researcher John 
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Ron James says senior figures in
the US government fear aliens 

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are in fact demons. 
Ron, who is director of media 

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relations for UFO research group
MUFON, claims there is a very 

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large contingent of people 
within the Pentagon who oppose 

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the work of Advanced Aerospace 
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because they think UA P's 
regularly reported by U.S. 

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military sources are piloted by 
creatures from hell. 

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I have to tell you, I am deeply 
disappointed with MUFON that 

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they would involve themself with
something like this on such a 

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political level, especially 
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So they're taking Louis Elizondo
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So Louis Elizondo, in my 
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culture at MUFON. 
So without naming anybody in 

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particular, Mufon comes out with
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If they were saying this sort of
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other religion, this would just 
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It goes on and says he says he 
was told by Louis Elizondo, who 

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was gone on record as being the 
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It was not just a little voice 
in the Pentagon, but a huge 

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group of people that thought the
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witnessed was demons. 
I wonder if Louis Elizondo 

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wasn't viewed as this outsider. 
I mean, you, you what, 2007, you

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have Harry Reid and Bob Bigelow 
decided that they would like to 

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investigate UFOs, and he has a 
broad brush to paint this topic 

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with. 
So they give him an office at 

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the Pentagon, this huge giant 
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You have to wonder if some of 
these people there didn't just 

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think what this is. 
You know, if they didn't feel 

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like maybe their turf was being 
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they weren't just a little bit 
critical, that it really seems 

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to me like Reid went outside the
normal chain of command to fund 

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this thing. 
Just kind of here's here's the 

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little guy and $20 million 
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I mean, I'm sure a lot of these 
guys were like, what is this guy

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doing here now? 
It goes on here. 

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It says the fundamentalist 
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defense establishment. 
Well, we can see how powerful 

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that is actually affected 
Elizondo's ability to get 

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funding. 
Ron says once again, he didn't 

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get Louis. 
Elizondo was not a normally 

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funded agency Okay. 
It was a one off deal. 

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Senator Harry Reid. 
Late Senator Harry Reid decided 

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along with the help of his 
friend and donor Bob Bigelow 

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that it would be that it would 
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taxpayers money and dump this 
height impaired person into the 

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Pentagon and claim they were 
studying UFOs. 

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Well, you've had the Pentagon, 
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rigorously organized culture at 
some level. 

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And then you just from the 
outside dump Louie in there with

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$20 million and he's going to 
invest, investigate UF O's. 

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I'm surprised that these guys 
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would have wanted to get him out
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possible. 
I don't understand why his 

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department had to be at the 
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I don't get that. 
But according to Louie, it's not

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the. 
It's not that he didn't operate 

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the actual department, Okay. 
It was a project, more or less. 

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It's not. 
It's not that it wasn't 

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something that's been going on 
for 50 years. 

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No, according to Louis, he 
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these bigoted Christians didn't 
like him. 

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Well, the fact is, Louis had a 
job for five years because a 

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powerful senator and a 
billionaire donor thought it 

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would be fun to create this 
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Dump it in the Pentagon bowels, 
Give him $20 million and he 

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could run around claiming he was
investigating UFOs. 

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The fact that that project ended
after the funding ran out 

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shouldn't be a surprise to 
anyone. 

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It's got nothing to do with 
somebody's bigoted beliefs. 

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It's got a lot more to do with 
who the power players are in 

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Washington now. 
Louis did parlay that five year 

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stint into being a member of the
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the celebrity gang that we see 
constantly on television telling

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us how things are going to be. 
He got that much out of it, but 

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he's not happy with that. 
Louie has to come out and attack

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people who have traditional 
religious beliefs and he doesn't

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even bother to tell us who the 
guy was that made these comments

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to him OK. 
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story, doesn't name any sources,
and it makes these wild 

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accusations. 
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think is already biased toward 
anybody with those kind of 

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beliefs anyway, they come out 
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all of a sudden we're led to 
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often are in today's media, that
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are. 
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what religion they are, as long 
as they're they, they, they bend

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toward a certain moral 
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All of a sudden, these are the 
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there just feeding the fire. 
I can understand why the people 

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that worked around Louie 
probably thought, wow, what a 

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waste of $20 million. 
You know, you have to wonder. 

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The next thing I want to look at
is a Twitter thread that's been 

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put up by a user. 
I follow her and she's done an 

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excellent job compiling some of 
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I want to look at the some of 
the excerpts that she's put 

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together and some of the 
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Elizondo and by George Knapp. 
Now I found this Twitter thread.

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It's posted by who is Axelrod 
and it says at Go Sub Kick Sub 

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Rocks 88. 
I'll put the link at the Buy me 

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a coffee website. 
You can all go also go to my 

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Twitter feed at Warning Sub UFO 
and look this up. 

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She has done, I think, an 
excellent job of of putting a 

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bunch of this information 
together and sourcing everything

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and really I think brings the 
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What's happening here is, well, 
Louis Elizondo is telling people

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that he was persecuted by 
Christians because he they 

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wouldn't, they wouldn't continue
funding on his pet project that 

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Harry Reid and billionaire donor
Bob Bigelow had put together for

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him at the Pentagon for five 
years. 

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Must be a nice ride, $20 million
for five years. 

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Who knows where the money went. 
He's upset about that, telling 

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us that, hey, when the aliens 
show up, all the world's 

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religions are going to 
disappear. 

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Everything will be upside down. 
But, you know, don't worry about

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it. 
Louis is going to be here to 

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guide you through it. 
At the same time, he's giving 

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you the business about this. 
You have people, and you have 

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people like Tom Delong and 
George Knapp setting themselves 

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up as authorities on UF O's. 
We have audio clips of them 

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talking about how these things 
are actually really scary. 

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Okay, the the exact opposite. 
While they're putting this front

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out to you that hey, it's all 
kumbaya, we're going to talk to 

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the aliens is awesome. 
If you have any doubt that these

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things are coming here with 
anything but good intentions, 

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well, you're just a silly, oh 
conservative Christian. 

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A shame on you. 
You know you're a Luddite 

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whatever. 
But in the background, they're 

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having the same reservation as a
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And if these things are bad, 
maybe they're really bad. 

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Just a thought now, she begins 
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Off it says new DoD officials 
think the phenomena is demonic. 

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That's the title. 
And then it repeats what I just 

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said. 
Ron James from Move On says 

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senior officials in the US 
government fear aliens are in 

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fact demons. 
Ron claims that there is a very 

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large contingent of people 
within the Pentagon who oppose 

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the work of a tit because they 
think the UA P's regulatory 

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reported by U.S. military 
sources are piled by creatures 

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from hell. 
He says he was told by Louis 

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Elizondo, who has gone on record
as being the boss of ATIP. 

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It was not just a little voice 
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group of people thought the 
phenomena that was being 

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witnessed was demons. 
Now I have some real problems 

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with this and like I said, I'm 
very sad to see a move on fall 

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into this trap with Louis 
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They're making big statements. 
They're painting with A broad 

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brush based on the claims of 
Louis Elizondo, with absolutely 

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not a single name to back it up 
now. 

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And she lists the same sources 
here we just went over. 

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Then it says we need more 
information on this from those 

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people inside the DoD. 
Jay Stratton said he saw it in 

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writing once. 
Once again, I saw it, but I 

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can't show you, George Knapp 
says. 

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This is George Knapp. 
I've heard these stories from 

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people we know about 
fundamentalist religious people,

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high ups who are concerned about
his demons or were messing with 

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forces of biblical proportions. 
So George, yeah, George is going

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to step out. 
He's going to throw some people 

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under the bus. 
Of course, we can't name him. 

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Then Jay Stratton. 
There's absolutely some concern 

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there. 
I did see it in writing one time

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in my career where someone was 
asking me to push back because 

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of their religious concerns. 
And you should wave off. 

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This topic is literally what 
they were telling me. 

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You shouldn't be involved in 
this. 

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Once again, we don't have any 
proof. 

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You can't give us a name, just 
more of these accusations 

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against unnamed people. 
And then it says Louie Elizondo.

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Of course now we have Louie. 
I was pulled into the office 

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with one of these seniors and he
looked me in the eye and said I 

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want this program to stop. 
I said okay, but what's the 

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rationale? 
He said what you were looking at

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is something that is a demonic 
presence. 

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Now I have some problems with 
that, Louis, He likes it. 

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He seems like he wants to imply 
that his project with his was 

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this long ongoing thing where it
had been funded for decades. 

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That is not what happened. 
Louis had a job in the Pentagon 

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simply because Senator Harry 
Reid made sure that that project

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was funded. 
It would be like if somebody 

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gave you a check for $20 million
and said go spend four days a 

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week at the Pentagon. 
It's ridiculous. 

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So the the DoD was an under as 
far as I can tell, under no 

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obligation to give another five 
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Louise project. 
It was a one off deal, you know.

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Seems like a nice like a nice 
paid vacation to me. 

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Now she's got some nice little 
meme here and then it goes on 

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here. 
This is there's this just a 

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short one minute video which I 
do want to play and this says 

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same senior Stratton spoke to. 
I was pulled in the office, one 

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of these seniors. 
One of these seniors and he 

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looked me in the eye and said I 
want this program to stop. 

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I said okay, but what's the 
rationale? 

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He said what you're looking at 
is something that is demonic 

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president Louis Elizondo. 
So I'm going to play this one 

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minute clip here with Louis and 
I think it's. 

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I think it's worth listening to.
Some officials that I talked to 

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told me that they thought there 
was resistance in the Pentagon 

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on religious grounds, that 
effectively you had some senior 

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officers who were Christians who
thought looking into this kind 

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of voodoo stuff was dangerous. 
I was. 

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Pulled into the office of one of
these seniors, the senior looked

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at me in the eye and said I want
this program to stop. 

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He said, Well, OK, but what's 
the rationale? 

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And he said well. 
What you are looking at is 

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something that is a demonic 
presence. 

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There's a. 
Faction in the government, high 

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up in the Pentagon of religious 
fundamentalists who are 

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concerned that anything 
paranormal or supernatural is 

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demonic in origin. 
That flying saucers represent 

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demons. 
That if you study this, that 

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you're inviting the devil and 
Satan into your world. 

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You're telling me to ignore it 
because it goes against your 

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philosophical belief system? 
Well that's the thing they face 

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in Afghanistan and in the Middle
East there's no difference. 

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Only you're wearing a three 
piece suit and they're carrying 

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a Kalashnikov. 
So I couldn't believe what I was

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hearing, Elizondo says his. 
Superiors, religious beliefs 

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hindered his mission to get the 
government to take UFO 

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seriously. 
And so there you have Louis 

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Elizondo comparing conservative 
Christians to Muslim terrorists 

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in Afghanistan. 
Nice. 

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And like I said once again, he 
implies there that this project 

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that he says he was in charge of
ATIP was something that was just

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continually funded year after 
year. 

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That's not how it was. 
I'll say it one more time. 

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It was funded for five years. 
It was almost like a vanity 

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project that was written into 
law by a very powerful senator, 

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Senator Harry Reid, at the 
urging of billionaire and 

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government contractor Robert 
Bigelow. 

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So it's almost as if somebody 
kind of interfered a little bit 

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with Louie's sweetheart deal he 
had going on. 

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It wouldn't reup it for another 
five years and he's not happy 

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about that. 
Now I want to look at this tweet

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here from Tom Delong also plays 
into this. 

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You know, we've heard so much 
from Tom Delong, all the stories

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of him with with to the stars of
Academy, how he got the TikTok 

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video, the Tic Tac videos posted
on YouTube. 

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I've been through that a million
times on the podcast and also 

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with Tom telling us, you know 
how, how great the Department of

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Defense is because they're 
protecting us. 

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Protecting us from all these 
dangers. 

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How he was shown things 
regarding this aliens and then 

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he couldn't sleep for three 
days, but he can't talk about it

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on and on and on. 
Just setting himself up there. 

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Some sort of UFO celebrity part 
of this UFO mafia. 

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But I found she, this lady here 
who was Axelrod. 

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She posted this tweet from 
August 22nd, 2020 at Tom Delong.

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It says used to think UF O's 
were cool and now dash. 

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Nope, all capitals used to think
UF O's were cool and now Nope, 

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don't think they're cool 
anymore. 

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Now it says that earlier in 
Wikipedia we found that Louis 

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had worked at two of the stars 
until 2020. 

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Maybe there was some kind of a 
falling out, I don't know. 

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She's also, so she's got a post 
on here about this former 

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Defense Department employee who 
was publicly a Satan worshipper 

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and talks about that a little 
bit. 

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I'm not really buying this that 
the conservative Christians have

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taken over the Dodi mean I think
the DoD is just this big giant, 

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basically nonreligious 
department and I'm not seeing 

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this takeover by a 
fundamentalist. 

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I'm just seeing a bunch of 
different people that that work 

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there. 
I mean, they have to accommodate

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every religion. 
So I'm a little bit annoyed with

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Louis for coming out and trying 
to make it seem like he was 

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persecuted. 
You know, the fact is funding is

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funding. 
And if you wanted, if you wanted

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to be funded by, if you want his
department funded, then he has 

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to go to Congress and ask for 
money just like anybody else. 

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Now she's got another short 
audio clip here I'm going to 

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play. 
And this clip, Knapp says it can

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do all kinds of stuff. 
It seems to feed off fear and be

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very dark and threatening at 
times. 

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I remember laughing at people 
who would say it's not aliens, 

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it's demons. 
I couldn't laugh anymore. 

460
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I'm not so sure about that. 
Wow. 

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Well, there's George Knapp not 
that long ago telling us that, 

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hey, maybe these things are 
demons. 

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While he is saying how poor 
Louis was criticized by 

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conservative Christians, here's 
Tom Delong. 

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There's a very, very strange 
link between what people think 

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demons are from the Bible and 
other religions and the UFO 

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00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,520
phenomenon. 
What you have is something that 

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doesn't like man, period. 
Whatever you call it, there are 

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dark aspects to the phenomena. 
Is it the same phenomena as a 

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nuts and bolts craft people are 
seeing in the sky or is it 

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something different altogether? 
Well, there you go. 

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So while these guys are publicly
telling you that, like I said, 

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that it's all Kumbaya comes 
around the campfire with the 

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aliens, they've got real 
reservations themselves while 

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they're complaining that Louis 
Elizondo was. 

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Or at least while George is 
complaining that Louis Elizondo 

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was persecuted by Christians in 
the Defense Department because 

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he couldn't get more funding for
a program that was only funded 

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00:26:42,890 --> 00:26:45,610
for five years. 
While he's saying, oh, these 

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00:26:45,650 --> 00:26:51,180
these baddies won't let won't 
let Louis investigate, he's on 

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the radio saying, man, these 
things are pretty scary. 

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Now listen to this excerpt. 
It's only like I think less than

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20 seconds. 
But it it can do all kinds of 

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stuff. 
It seems to feed off of fear. 

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00:27:02,890 --> 00:27:05,010
It could be very dark and 
threatening at times. 

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00:27:05,410 --> 00:27:09,010
I I remember laughing at people 
who would say it's not aliens, 

487
00:27:09,010 --> 00:27:11,410
it's demons. 
I I couldn't laugh anymore. 

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00:27:11,410 --> 00:27:13,730
I'm not so sure about that. 
There there is a. 

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Very, very strong. 
Link between what people think 

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00:27:17,970 --> 00:27:23,530
demons are from the Bible and 
other religions and the UFO 

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00:27:23,530 --> 00:27:29,130
phenomenon and what you have is 
something that doesn't like man.

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Period. 
You can hear from that excerpt 

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00:27:32,090 --> 00:27:35,050
right there that between Tom 
Delong and George Knapp that 

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both these guys really see that 
these aliens seem to have a evil

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00:27:38,730 --> 00:27:43,210
side, a dark side, and Delong 
comparing them to demons. 

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00:27:43,690 --> 00:27:45,330
And I think it's an accurate 
assessment. 

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00:27:45,330 --> 00:27:47,570
And I just wish that these guys 
would be more open and 

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00:27:47,570 --> 00:27:50,810
forthcoming about this stuff. 
I mean, they, they seem to want 

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00:27:50,810 --> 00:27:54,250
to play both sides of the fence.
You have George Knapp talking 

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00:27:54,250 --> 00:27:57,390
about poor Louis being, you 
know, persecuted by these 

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00:27:57,390 --> 00:27:58,750
Christians. 
You have Louis coming out and 

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saying, well, I wasn't funded 
because he's Christian 

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00:28:00,630 --> 00:28:01,750
fundamentalists. 
Were were. 

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00:28:01,870 --> 00:28:04,350
They thought that I was talking 
to demons and and I shouldn't be

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00:28:04,350 --> 00:28:07,710
researching these aliens at all.
The whole fact of the matter is,

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00:28:07,710 --> 00:28:12,990
is that as I said dozen times, 
Elizondo was funded through this

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00:28:12,990 --> 00:28:16,070
program simply because of a 
powerful senator and a curious 

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00:28:16,070 --> 00:28:19,190
rich billionaire donor. 
And this wasn't an ongoing 

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00:28:19,190 --> 00:28:21,710
program or department that was 
funded year after year. 

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00:28:21,710 --> 00:28:24,540
So if it's funding right now, 
well, it ran out because the 

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00:28:24,540 --> 00:28:28,540
contract had run out, had 
nothing to do with Christians or

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00:28:28,540 --> 00:28:32,220
anybody else for that matter. 
So I think we can start to see 

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00:28:32,460 --> 00:28:36,460
this dynamic being set up here, 
this narrative of the deep state

514
00:28:36,980 --> 00:28:39,220
once again. 
They always have to have a good 

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00:28:39,220 --> 00:28:42,060
guy and a bad guy and there's in
this situation, it's almost like

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00:28:42,260 --> 00:28:44,700
these aliens that we don't know 
what they are, we don't know 

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00:28:44,900 --> 00:28:47,220
anything about them. 
Well, they're going to be the 

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00:28:47,220 --> 00:28:51,260
good guys, the benevolent ones 
and the Christian people, the 

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00:28:51,260 --> 00:28:56,030
people that you know, we're told
to love your neighbor like 

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00:28:56,030 --> 00:28:57,550
yourself. 
Well, they're going to be the 

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00:28:57,550 --> 00:28:59,710
bad guys. 
They're the evil persecutors. 

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00:28:59,950 --> 00:29:04,670
So I I'm disappointed and move 
on for interjecting themselves 

523
00:29:04,670 --> 00:29:08,430
into this narrative, especially 
with Louis Elizondo. 

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00:29:08,670 --> 00:29:11,310
Without a shred of evidence, 
without a single name. 

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00:29:11,550 --> 00:29:13,910
I I mean, I expect this kind of 
behavior out of Louis because 

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00:29:14,150 --> 00:29:16,510
he's always looking for the next
camera to stare into, it seems 

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00:29:16,510 --> 00:29:19,470
like. 
But I'd hope that MUFON, a 

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00:29:19,590 --> 00:29:22,710
national organization for the 
reporting of UFOs, would have 

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00:29:22,710 --> 00:29:26,470
been a little more cognizant of 
the facts and a little more 

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00:29:26,470 --> 00:29:30,190
questioning of Louis Elizondo, 
as we asked. 

531
00:29:30,190 --> 00:29:32,230
Did a tip? 
Talk to demons. 

532
00:29:32,230 --> 00:29:34,270
Until next time, this is UFO 
Warning. 

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Over and out.
