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Hello and welcome to the program
UFO Warning. 

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In this episode, we're talking 
about the Vatican and UFOs. 

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That's correct, the Vatican and 
UFOs. 

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Now, this article comes to us 
from usccb.org. usccb.org. 

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Written by Robert Duncan, the 
title says angels or aliens. 

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Some researchers say Vatican 
archives hold UFO secrets. 

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Some scientists believe the 
Vatican's historic archives 

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might hold key insights into 
unidentified anomalous phenomena

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and paranormal activity. 
Their efforts highlight an 

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intersection of historical 
records, religious studies, and 

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scientific inquiry into the 
unexplained. 

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This is dated June 18th, 2024. 
And I don't have to tell you 

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right off the bat I'm a little 
biased on this subject. 

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I think it's kind of scary 
anytime you make an appeal to 

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authority to explain to us what 
UFOs are. 

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And there's this notion that 
because the Catholic Church has 

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been around so long that 
possibly somewhere in these 

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miles and miles and miles of 
bookshelves that there are 

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accounts of UFOs that could 
somehow reveal the truth about 

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this subject. 
I highly doubt that. 

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The article begins. 
A group of scientists and 

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researchers are seeking access 
to the Vatican Apostolic 

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Archives to uncover information 
about UFOs and the paranormal, 

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believing there may be traces 
amid the 50 miles of shells 

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holding everything from 
handwritten papal notes to 

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presidential missives. 
You can see right off the bat 

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they're keeping all this 
information secret, and that's 

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because this information is 
knowledge and knowledge is 

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power. 
The decades long effort gained 

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momentum in 2023 following 
former U.S. intelligence 

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official David Greshi's 
congressional testimony alleging

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the Vatican's involvement in an 
international cover up of alien 

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secrets. 
Grush claimed Pope Pius the 12th

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back channel information to the 
United States about a crashed 

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UFO recovered by fascist 
dictator Benito Mussolini. 

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We've talked about this. 
This is an old story, it's been 

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around a long time. 
It's happened during World War 

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Two. 
Supposedly there was a there was

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a UFO crash and somehow the US 
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The whole thing seems really 
suspect to me. 

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A little surprised Grush could 
bring that up. 

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Maybe he brought it up because 
it's something that's not 

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classified. 
It's been this information has 

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been around a long time. 
It goes on, it says I don't know

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where Grush got this 
information, Marco Grilley, 

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secretary to the to the prefect 
of the archives, told Catholic 

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News Service June 11th. 
Grillers said the archives had 

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received emails inquiring about 
the veracity of Grush's claims 

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but liking them to request to 
read the personal letters of 

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Pontius Pilate or Virgin Mary. 
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I mean, we do have a lot of 
Pontius Pilates letters, 

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apparently. 
That's why we know some of the 

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things that we know. 
And I don't know why they have 

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to throw the Virgin Mary in 
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One can laugh at it, he said. 
However, findings like those 

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reported and Diana Walsh's 
Pasuka's 2019 book American 

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Cosmic suggest to UFO believers 
that the archives hold more than

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me see eye. 
Pulsuka, a religious studies 

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professor at the University of 
North Carolina, Wilmington, said

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the archives are full of reports
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nuns witnessing orbs entering 
their cells, flying houses and 

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other aerial phenomena. 
She argues that these events 

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might be understood as UFO type 
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miracles, as Catholics 
traditionally understand them. 

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The historical record is filled 
with these kinds of events, she 

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told CNS May 30th. 
The people at the Vatican, they 

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don't even know where to look. 
It's in their basements. 

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Well, maybe it's in the 
basements because they don't 

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want people down there looking. 
The Vatican's archivists are in 

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a mad rush to digitize what they
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They have to prioritize what 
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she explained. 
They aren't really prioritizing 

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orbs that are bothering nuns in 
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Well, how convenient to digitize
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it. 
I just saw a video there. 

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They're talking about how much 
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the web. 
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24% of the websites are gone 
that were that were around then.

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They're not keeping this stuff. 
And I'm sure it's mostly stuff 

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that Google doesn't approve of. 
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holdings extends beyond the 
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Scientists like Gary Nolan, a 
professor at medicine at 

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Stanford University of Vida, 
Vatican archives as a potential 

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treasure trove for understanding
UFOs. 

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Remember, Gary Nolan is the 
Super rich professor at 

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Stanford, did the studies on the
government employees, we assume 

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pilots maybe that will come into
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talked about a lot of them, how 
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Remember the article, I think it
came out, was it Newsweek? 

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You can go back in the podcast 
and look, he mentioned in an 

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interview that once he brought 
up to the government that this 

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looked an awful lot like Havana 
syndrome, the stuff that US 

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diplomatic employees were 
picking up in Cuba, that the 

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funding was pulled and he's 
taken off the case. 

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Now. 
Gary Nolan for some reason has 

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blocked me on Twitter. 
Pretty weird actually. 

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I mean, I have a tiny little 
podcast. 

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I've never said anything bad 
about the guy until up until 

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that point. 
I was actually always pretty 

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nice about him. 
But then I went to go on his 

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Twitter account one day and 
found out that I was blocked. 

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And I can only assume that's 
because maybe I made a couple 

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jokes about Louis Elizondo's 
being hyped impaired and I guess

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he must not like that because he
has blocked me. 

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I don't. 
I don't get why these Twitter 

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celebrities just randomly 
blocked insignificant people 

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like myself who've never, who've
never harassed him or come on 

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their Twitter feed and said 
anything critical, said 

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anything, period. 
I don't think I'd ever left a 

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comment on the guy's Twitter 
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So out of all you know, 6 
billion people in the world, I'm

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not really sure why he would 
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someone like me. 
I mean, think this guy's got to 

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be busy. 
I mean, he's on every other UFO 

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program out there. 
He's a multi millionaire, I 

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guess he's invented all kinds of
cool lab stuff and so why, why 

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bother? 
I mean, is Louis that important 

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to him? 
I I don't know. 

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I don't, I don't get it. 
Anyway, that's where I stand 

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with Gary. 
Nolan has blocked the article 

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goes on and says the Vatican is 
probably the oldest library 

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system of paranormal or 
supernatural knowledge. 

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Still extent. 
Still extent. 

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Nolan said the archive has an 
aura of both mysticism and a 

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feeling of deep truth. 
That if you just knew how to 

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read it, you can pull that 
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I don't know. 
They're talking about maybe 

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events that happened 100 or 200 
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Nolan believes that if an 
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on Earth, it means it might be 
possible for humans to survive 

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threats like climate change, the
energy crisis and war. 

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So he's got to get the climate 
change in there first. 

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This tells me this guy is some 
sort of a connected shill. 

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Almost all these guys that, you 
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front lines here, the big 
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Well, they're all about climate 
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When if you take 15 minutes to 
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the whole climate stage, the 
whole climate change data is 

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based on falsified data. 
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talking about how they're 
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different climate stations where
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somebody out there physically 
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the weather report and they're 
closed down. 

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So they're just, they're just 
shipping it in. 

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They're just making up stuff. 
We'll follow the money. 

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The very fact that we think we 
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Nolan said of UFO sightings. 
It says something has made it 

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past the clift, past the 
decision point that we feel we 

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are on the edge of right now. 
Yeah, that to me is Gary Nolan 

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setting you up, setting up a pin
to drive you into. 

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So we don't know what's going on
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These things have been going on 
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So why is this such a big deal 
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Secondly, no one came out here. 
I don't know. 

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I see them on a podcast 
interview a while back. 

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I just watched a few minutes of 
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And he was talking about these 
UFOs, how they were seen in the 

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1800s and people viewed them as 
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So they would see crew outside, 
you know, working on them and 

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trying to repair them, and they 
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them. 
And his idea of that was that 

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these things were testing us 
somehow, because it's impossible

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to believe that somebody would 
actually think that these things

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were from another planet. 
And here they are on Earth 

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broken down, and they're being 
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Well, I don't know. 
My opinion is a lot of these 

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things are deceptive. 
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1850, posing as an airship under
repair was the best way to 

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entice these people into some 
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Maybe it's part of a bigger 
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I don't know. 
I don't see them as being here 

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to test us in good faith, Not 
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entities that abduct people, 
take them on board, craft and do

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all kinds of horrendous 
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Nolan Co founded the Soul 
Foundation in 2023 to spearhead 

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scientific research into UFOs, 
now called Uaps, or Unidentified

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Anomalous Phenomena, now called 
by WHO, and to initiate dialogue

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with religious institutions like
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implication of discovering alien
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And why would he even care? 
The foundation is confident that

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at least some UFOs are genuine 
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Consequently, one primary 
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interfaith dialogue to assess 
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religions. 
What I see here is a Judas code.

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Yeah, I'm here. 
I'm here to help you. 

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Yeah, sorry about blocking an 
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we're, we're just trying to 
figure things out. 

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We're just trying to see how the
religion will be impacted. 

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Or maybe they're just trying to 
figure out how these things 

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should present themselves to 
believers in a way that can 

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deceive them, that can get them 
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them. 
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interfaith dialogue and engages 
religious pluralism, it's always

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been in our mind that it's an 
entity we want to engage, Peter 

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Scafish, the founder nations 
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Interest among non Catholic 
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paranormal secrets in the 
Vatican has spanned decades and 

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has roots in a culturally 
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California. 
This just sounds like more of 

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the same. 
And he's here's a guy who's 

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filthy rich and he's going to 
start up a nonprofit, another 

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one where they can churn out 
papers and they can try to 

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engage the public with their 
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Father Francis Tiso, an expert 
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said he discussed a plan to 
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the Vatican archives with 
founder of the Eastland 

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Institute over 20 years ago. 
Eastland is a retreat center in 

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California known for its 
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influence, particularly during 
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It continues to play a 
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United States by attracting 
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spiritual leaders and innovators
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psychology, spirituality and 
personal growth. 

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Yeah, a bunch of people 
wandering around in the dark, 

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empowered by billions of 
dollars. 

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Your dollars. 
Father Teso said that Michael 

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Murphy, Eastlands Co founder, 
told him that someone should go 

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to the Vatican archives, do 
research, examine the 

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documentation and try to 
classify it in ways that would 

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be accessible to the scientific 
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Studying miracles attributed to 
intercession of Saints as 

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possible paranormal activity, 
Father Teso said, could help 

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build another bridge in the 
direction of paranormal 

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phenomena connected to the idea 
of the UFO narrative. 

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That somehow we human beings are
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other civilizations, other 
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universe. 
What about the demons? 

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They're talking about conscious 
beings and civilizations, but 

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they're not talking about 
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the other side, which might not 
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involved with. 
Jeffrey Cripple, a member of the

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board at Aslan and professors of
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Houston, said the stories of 
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interest to UFO researchers 
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communication, levitation and 
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coincide with close encounters. 
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phenomena appears in the 
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experience, Cripple said. 
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And these people many times are 
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will. 
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things done to them. 
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suffering from anxiety, post 
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whatever you want to call. 
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done with these abductions and 
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implants stuck in them, how is 
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Not the kind of religious 
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have. 
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at Yale University, has studied 
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He published his findings in the
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the Impossible. 
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are all on the spectrum of, 
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things that are considered 
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he said. 
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value for paranormal research, 
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Especially since the 
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applied more rigor to alleged 
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While the staff at the Vatican 
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vast shelves contain accounts 
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of their holdings pertain to 
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The prefect wants to affirm that
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archives that regards 
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scholars seeking such material 
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dissuaded from undertaking 
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in this Apostolic archive, Girly
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Wow, Well, don't have a lot of 
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that said that if there were 
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A lot of strange stuff here. 
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I mean, you're seeing this 
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powerful organized structure 
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I don't even know how many 
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millions of dollars it it's 
worth crossing over with someone

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like Gary Nolan, a top member of
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I would say celebrity mafia. 
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have been around for fifty 60-70
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We have a phenomenon in this 
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It's disturbing. 
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can take an hour on YouTube or 
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even, scratch the surface and 
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to industrialize, you had a fair
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top, whether it's the Carnegie's
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They were allowed to abuse and 
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environment, basically robbed 
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talking about the other day, 
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privatizing the profits. 
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spectacular rates. 
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passed away. 
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out or drifted into anonymity 
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And and maybe in this newer age,
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have a lot of money. 
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money out there hidden away in 
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aren't aware of and so much 
money they can't hardly spend it

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all. 
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people funding these different 
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these different think tanks, and
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society. 
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fathers did not want a 
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live more than 99 years. 
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our substances like locusts and 
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But that's what you're seeing 
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of our society. 
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accumulated generational wealth 
morphing into this new age woke 

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ideology that is just applied to
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whether it's medicine, whether 
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it's UFOs. 
And somebody somewhere is going 

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to tell you what you need to 
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A rich professor from Stanford, 
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I mean, look at the stuff he's 
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these giant organizations, one 
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guess you would call it, that's 
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And they join up with the 
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Now you got this little pot, 
Stern, all of these people 

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accessing information that we 
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All of these people posing as 
authority figures who know more 

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than we do but still have the 
time to block an insignificant 

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podcast on their Twitter feed. 
Hey, what's going on here? 

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I mean, do we even need this? 
Do we even need the archive of 

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the Catholic Church? 
Do we even need these fifteen, 

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20-30 hundred think tanks that 
are sitting around talking about

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UFOs and what drug they can use 
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Who's paying for this stuff? 
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This is that money that was 
exploited from people 

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generations ago, still being 
used to exploit us today when we

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simply want to do our own 
research and find out what these

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UFOs are and whether or not 
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That's why we have to keep up 
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We have to keep up doing our own
investigation, and we cannot 

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depend upon Gary Nolan or the 
Soul Foundation or the Catholic 

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Church to reveal to us what 
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This has to be our own search. 
Until next time, this is UFO 

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warning over now.