Hello and welcome to the program UFO Warning.
In this episode, we're talking about the Vatican and UFOs.
That's correct, the Vatican and UFOs.
Now, this article comes to us from usccb.org. usccb.org.
Written by Robert Duncan, the title says angels or aliens.
Some researchers say Vatican archives hold UFO secrets.
Some scientists believe the Vatican's historic archives
might hold key insights into unidentified anomalous phenomena
and paranormal activity. Their efforts highlight an
intersection of historical records, religious studies, and
scientific inquiry into the unexplained.
This is dated June 18th, 2024. And I don't have to tell you
right off the bat I'm a little biased on this subject.
I think it's kind of scary anytime you make an appeal to
authority to explain to us what UFOs are.
And there's this notion that because the Catholic Church has
been around so long that possibly somewhere in these
miles and miles and miles of bookshelves that there are
accounts of UFOs that could somehow reveal the truth about
this subject. I highly doubt that.
The article begins. A group of scientists and
researchers are seeking access to the Vatican Apostolic
Archives to uncover information about UFOs and the paranormal,
believing there may be traces amid the 50 miles of shells
holding everything from handwritten papal notes to
presidential missives. You can see right off the bat
they're keeping all this information secret, and that's
because this information is knowledge and knowledge is
power. The decades long effort gained
momentum in 2023 following former U.S. intelligence
official David Greshi's congressional testimony alleging
the Vatican's involvement in an international cover up of alien
secrets. Grush claimed Pope Pius the 12th
back channel information to the United States about a crashed
UFO recovered by fascist dictator Benito Mussolini.
We've talked about this. This is an old story, it's been
around a long time. It's happened during World War
Two. Supposedly there was a there was
a UFO crash and somehow the US came in and recovered it.
The whole thing seems really suspect to me.
A little surprised Grush could bring that up.
Maybe he brought it up because it's something that's not
classified. It's been this information has
been around a long time. It goes on, it says I don't know
where Grush got this information, Marco Grilley,
secretary to the to the prefect of the archives, told Catholic
News Service June 11th. Grillers said the archives had
received emails inquiring about the veracity of Grush's claims
but liking them to request to read the personal letters of
Pontius Pilate or Virgin Mary. Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, we do have a lot of Pontius Pilates letters,
apparently. That's why we know some of the
things that we know. And I don't know why they have
to throw the Virgin Mary in there.
One can laugh at it, he said. However, findings like those
reported and Diana Walsh's Pasuka's 2019 book American
Cosmic suggest to UFO believers that the archives hold more than
me see eye. Pulsuka, a religious studies
professor at the University of North Carolina, Wilmington, said
the archives are full of reports about paranormal events such as
nuns witnessing orbs entering their cells, flying houses and
other aerial phenomena. She argues that these events
might be understood as UFO type occurrences rather than
miracles, as Catholics traditionally understand them.
The historical record is filled with these kinds of events, she
told CNS May 30th. The people at the Vatican, they
don't even know where to look. It's in their basements.
Well, maybe it's in the basements because they don't
want people down there looking. The Vatican's archivists are in
a mad rush to digitize what they have.
They have to prioritize what they think is most important,
she explained. They aren't really prioritizing
orbs that are bothering nuns in 1800s.
Well, how convenient to digitize all this stuff and get rid of
it. I just saw a video there.
They're talking about how much information has disappeared from
the web. I think like from 2013, 23 or
24% of the websites are gone that were that were around then.
They're not keeping this stuff. And I'm sure it's mostly stuff
that Google doesn't approve of. The interest in the Vatican's
holdings extends beyond the realm of scholars of religion.
Scientists like Gary Nolan, a professor at medicine at
Stanford University of Vida, Vatican archives as a potential
treasure trove for understanding UFOs.
Remember, Gary Nolan is the Super rich professor at
Stanford, did the studies on the government employees, we assume
pilots maybe that will come into close contact with UFOs and
talked about a lot of them, how they were injured and died.
Remember the article, I think it came out, was it Newsweek?
You can go back in the podcast and look, he mentioned in an
interview that once he brought up to the government that this
looked an awful lot like Havana syndrome, the stuff that US
diplomatic employees were picking up in Cuba, that the
funding was pulled and he's taken off the case.
Now. Gary Nolan for some reason has
blocked me on Twitter. Pretty weird actually.
I mean, I have a tiny little podcast.
I've never said anything bad about the guy until up until
that point. I was actually always pretty
nice about him. But then I went to go on his
Twitter account one day and found out that I was blocked.
And I can only assume that's because maybe I made a couple
jokes about Louis Elizondo's being hyped impaired and I guess
he must not like that because he has blocked me.
I don't. I don't get why these Twitter
celebrities just randomly blocked insignificant people
like myself who've never, who've never harassed him or come on
their Twitter feed and said anything critical, said
anything, period. I don't think I'd ever left a
comment on the guy's Twitter feed.
So out of all you know, 6 billion people in the world, I'm
not really sure why he would even take the time to block
someone like me. I mean, think this guy's got to
be busy. I mean, he's on every other UFO
program out there. He's a multi millionaire, I
guess he's invented all kinds of cool lab stuff and so why, why
bother? I mean, is Louis that important
to him? I I don't know.
I don't, I don't get it. Anyway, that's where I stand
with Gary. Nolan has blocked the article
goes on and says the Vatican is probably the oldest library
system of paranormal or supernatural knowledge.
Still extent. Still extent.
Nolan said the archive has an aura of both mysticism and a
feeling of deep truth. That if you just knew how to
read it, you can pull that information out.
I don't know. They're talking about maybe
events that happened 100 or 200 years ago.
Nolan believes that if an advanced species is showing up
on Earth, it means it might be possible for humans to survive
threats like climate change, the energy crisis and war.
So he's got to get the climate change in there first.
This tells me this guy is some sort of a connected shill.
Almost all these guys that, you know, it seemed to be on the
front lines here, the big celebrity types.
Well, they're all about climate change.
When if you take 15 minutes to research this, you'll find that
the whole climate stage, the whole climate change data is
based on falsified data. I mean, just recently we're
talking about how they're reporting data from all these
different climate stations where they're supposed to be, have
somebody out there physically taking the temperature and, and
the weather report and they're closed down.
So they're just, they're just shipping it in.
They're just making up stuff. We'll follow the money.
The very fact that we think we see something, to me is hope,
Nolan said of UFO sightings. It says something has made it
past the clift, past the decision point that we feel we
are on the edge of right now. Yeah, that to me is Gary Nolan
setting you up, setting up a pin to drive you into.
So we don't know what's going on here.
These things have been going on for thousands of years.
So why is this such a big deal right now?
Secondly, no one came out here. I don't know.
I see them on a podcast interview a while back.
I just watched a few minutes of it.
And he was talking about these UFOs, how they were seen in the
1800s and people viewed them as airship.
So they would see crew outside, you know, working on them and
trying to repair them, and they would have a conversation with
them. And his idea of that was that
these things were testing us somehow, because it's impossible
to believe that somebody would actually think that these things
were from another planet. And here they are on Earth
broken down, and they're being repaired.
Well, I don't know. My opinion is a lot of these
things are deceptive. And maybe they perceived that in
1850, posing as an airship under repair was the best way to
entice these people into some kind of a conversation.
Maybe it's part of a bigger plan.
I don't know. I don't see them as being here
to test us in good faith, Not when you're talking about
entities that abduct people, take them on board, craft and do
all kinds of horrendous procedures on them.
Nolan Co founded the Soul Foundation in 2023 to spearhead
scientific research into UFOs, now called Uaps, or Unidentified
Anomalous Phenomena, now called by WHO, and to initiate dialogue
with religious institutions like the Vatican about the spiritual
implication of discovering alien life.
And why would he even care? The foundation is confident that
at least some UFOs are genuine vehicles of non human origin.
Consequently, one primary objective has been to initiate
interfaith dialogue to assess the potential impact on world
religions. What I see here is a Judas code.
Yeah, I'm here. I'm here to help you.
Yeah, sorry about blocking an old UFO warning on Twitter, but
we're, we're just trying to figure things out.
We're just trying to see how the religion will be impacted.
Or maybe they're just trying to figure out how these things
should present themselves to believers in a way that can
deceive them, that can get them herded into this pen to contain
them. Because the Vatican facilitates
interfaith dialogue and engages religious pluralism, it's always
been in our mind that it's an entity we want to engage, Peter
Scafish, the founder nations director, told CNS.
Interest among non Catholic researchers and uncovering
paranormal secrets in the Vatican has spanned decades and
has roots in a culturally influential retreat center in
California. This just sounds like more of
the same. And he's here's a guy who's
filthy rich and he's going to start up a nonprofit, another
one where they can churn out papers and they can try to
engage the public with their narrative.
Father Francis Tiso, an expert on inter religious dialogue,
said he discussed a plan to conduct paranormal research in
the Vatican archives with founder of the Eastland
Institute over 20 years ago. Eastland is a retreat center in
California known for its progressive and countercultural
influence, particularly during the 1960s and 70s.
It continues to play a significant cultural role in the
United States by attracting Silicon Valley technologies,
spiritual leaders and innovators to explore new ideas in
psychology, spirituality and personal growth.
Yeah, a bunch of people wandering around in the dark,
empowered by billions of dollars.
Your dollars. Father Teso said that Michael
Murphy, Eastlands Co founder, told him that someone should go
to the Vatican archives, do research, examine the
documentation and try to classify it in ways that would
be accessible to the scientific community.
Studying miracles attributed to intercession of Saints as
possible paranormal activity, Father Teso said, could help
build another bridge in the direction of paranormal
phenomena connected to the idea of the UFO narrative.
That somehow we human beings are in some way in contact with
other civilizations, other conscious beings in the
universe. What about the demons?
They're talking about conscious beings and civilizations, but
they're not talking about visitations from critters from
the other side, which might not be something we want to get
involved with. Jeffrey Cripple, a member of the
board at Aslan and professors of religion at Rice University in
Houston, said the stories of Catholic miracles are of
interest to UFO researchers because telepathic
communication, levitation and other paranormal events often
coincide with close encounters. The whole gamut of religious
phenomena appears in the abduction or the encounter
experience, Cripple said. Well, not really.
And these people many times are being abducted against their
will. They're having painful, awful
things done to them. And most of them seem to be
suffering from anxiety, post traumatic stress disorder,
whatever you want to call. A lot of them are when they get
done with these abductions and they're coming back with
implants stuck in them, how is that a religious experience?
Not the kind of religious experience that I would want to
have. Carlos Ear, professor of history
at Yale University, has studied the types of miracles that
captivate researchers like Pasuka and Nolan.
He published his findings in the 2023 book They Flew a History of
the Impossible. Levitations, UFOs and miracles
are all on the spectrum of, let's call it the impossible
things that are considered impossible or highly unlikely,
he said. The Vatican archives have a high
value for paranormal research, he said.
Especially since the Renaissance, the church has
applied more rigor to alleged miracles by requiring witnesses
to swear oaths that they're not lying.
While the staff at the Vatican archives acknowledge that their
vast shelves contain accounts and miracles, they deny that any
of their holdings pertain to aliens.
The prefect wants to affirm that there is no document in the
archives that regards extraterrestrial life, and
scholars seeking such material at the Vatican should be
dissuaded from undertaking feudal and unproductive attempts
in this Apostolic archive, Girly said.
Wow, Well, don't have a lot of faith in that as it was a Pope
that said that if there were aliens, he could baptize them.
A lot of strange stuff here. It reminds me of the deep state.
I mean, you're seeing this intersection between a very
powerful organized structure like the Catholic Church, which
I don't even know how many millions and hundreds of
millions of dollars it it's worth crossing over with someone
like Gary Nolan, a top member of the UFO mafia.
I would say celebrity mafia. And then these non profit groups
have been around for fifty 60-70 years.
We have a phenomenon in this country.
It's disturbing. Actually, if you you can, you
can take an hour on YouTube or The History Channel and just get
even, scratch the surface and see that when this country began
to industrialize, you had a fair number of people rise to the
top, whether it's the Carnegie's or the Fords or whoever.
And they accumulated mass wealth, no income taxes.
They were allowed to abuse and hurt people, poison the
environment, basically robbed society, just like we were
talking about the other day, socializing the cost and
privatizing the profits. And those profits accumulated at
spectacular rates. Now most of those robber barons
passed away. A lot of the families have died
out or drifted into anonymity with the exception of the forge.
And and maybe in this newer age, maybe the Waltons say, but you
have a lot of money. You have, you have a lot of old
money out there hidden away in trust that a lot of people
aren't aware of and so much money they can't hardly spend it
all. And so you end up with these
people funding these different non government organizations,
these different think tanks, and they have an outsize impact on
society. This is exactly why the founding
fathers did not want a corporation to be allowed to
live more than 99 years. They didn't want it to eat up
our substances like locusts and take over our country.
But that's what you're seeing happening today and every aspect
of our society. You're seeing this old
accumulated generational wealth morphing into this new age woke
ideology that is just applied to every every question we have,
whether it's medicine, whether it's family life, or whether
it's UFOs. And somebody somewhere is going
to tell you what you need to think.
A rich professor from Stanford, undeniably a very smart person.
I mean, look at the stuff he's created, joins up with one of
these giant organizations, one of these wealthy think tanks, I
guess you would call it, that's been around for a while now.
And they join up with the Catholic Church's archives.
Now you got this little pot, Stern, all of these people
accessing information that we don't have access to.
All of these people posing as authority figures who know more
than we do but still have the time to block an insignificant
podcast on their Twitter feed. Hey, what's going on here?
I mean, do we even need this? Do we even need the archive of
the Catholic Church? Do we even need these fifteen,
20-30 hundred think tanks that are sitting around talking about
UFOs and what drug they can use to expand their mind?
Who's paying for this stuff? Who's paying for it is society.
This is that money that was exploited from people
generations ago, still being used to exploit us today when we
simply want to do our own research and find out what these
UFOs are and whether or not they're dangerous.
That's why we have to keep up the work.
We have to keep up doing our own investigation, and we cannot
depend upon Gary Nolan or the Soul Foundation or the Catholic
Church to reveal to us what these UFOs are.
This has to be our own search. Until next time, this is UFO
warning over now.