1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,560 Hello and welcome to the program UFO Warning. 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:06,840 In this episode, we're talking about Ed Walters UFO Polaroids. 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,600 That's correct. Ed Walters, UFO Polaroids. 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,360 This was a story that happened back in 87 and 88, a collection 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:15,200 of photographs taken by this gentleman. 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,080 A lot of controversy around him. I want to kind of develop a 7 00:00:18,080 --> 00:00:19,600 little bit of a base for the story here. 8 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:26,120 If we go to pnj.com, that's Pensacola News Journal, we find 9 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:30,120 the article titled Pensacola man truck abducted by clawed aliens. 10 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,720 Still no word on suspect 50 years later written by Troy 11 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:35,800 Moon. So he starts this article off 12 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,240 talking about in the event that happened about 15 years before 13 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,680 Ed Walter's pictures. But it's interesting says new 14 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,400 details have been released regarding the six suspects 15 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:48,160 described as short with claw like arms that allegedly 16 00:00:48,160 --> 00:00:50,760 abducted a man and his truck on Interstate 10. 17 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,760 The alleged suspects vehicle was described as an unidentified 18 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,160 space ship. You'd think there would have 19 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,320 been some kind of follow up for a reported abduction by 20 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,920 creatures who somehow moved the man and his pickup truck into a 21 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:08,280 waiting hovering UFO above Interstate 10, only to return 22 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,560 him and the truck 30 minutes later. 23 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:15,160 But since the incident occurred on October 17th, 1973, there's 24 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,120 not been another word about the abduction. 25 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,720 The man said the clawed creatures kept him and his truck 26 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,840 for about 30 minutes and after picking him up on Interstate 10 27 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,480 near Luxley Allen, Alabama, as he was returning to Pensacola 28 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,840 from Mobile, he was returned with his truck near Pine Forest 29 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,720 Rd. Now I tried to look that case 30 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,080 up. I couldn't find a word of it 31 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:38,880 anywhere. If somebody else is familiar 32 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,440 with this case, I'd really be interested to know who the man 33 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,200 was and more about it. The article goes on and says, 34 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,400 but I searched the database and there's nothing since that 35 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,280 original article 51 years ago. Yes, there were other local and 36 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,760 regional UFO reports around the same time. 37 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:57,040 In fact, the next day, October 18th, 1973, a woman in Milton 38 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,640 reported that a flying saucer had landed at her house and 39 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,000 little green men were walking around on the houses roof, said 40 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,320 Escambia County Sheriff's Dispatcher Larry Pearson. 41 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,039 By the time deputies arrived, the saucer and the little green 42 00:02:10,039 --> 00:02:11,800 men were gone. Goes on here. 43 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:16,160 It says Florida has the second most UFO sightings in the US, 44 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:17,960 and then here are the biggest ones. 45 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,920 The same day that Pensacola News reported about that spaceship 46 00:02:21,920 --> 00:02:24,880 abduction, there were also numerous reports of flying 47 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,120 saucers and UFOs. Hundreds in fact, from South 48 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,320 Alabama through northwest Florida. 49 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,360 These things do seem to kind of run in packs. 50 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,280 Most were explained away. Helicopter maneuvers in Mobile, 51 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:40,680 atmospheric testing at Eglin Air Force Base, and weather balloons 52 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,880 flying near J at the time. And always a good excuse with 53 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,000 the weather balloons. But there never was resolution 54 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,520 to the claw creature abduction. Within a day or so, all the UFO 55 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,520 commotion had died down. It wasn't the big sensation of 56 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:58,760 the Gulf Breeze UFO incident of 1987 and 80, 1988, when resident 57 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,440 Ed Walters shared pictures with the Gulf Breeze Centennial 58 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,320 showing a UFO he said he captured near his home. 59 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,400 Walters claimed to have conversed with the aliens from 60 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,840 the ship in English and in Spanish using telepathy. 61 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,520 There were numerous sightings by others during this period, but 62 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,560 most people believe Walters photos were a hoax. 63 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,360 After he moved, the new owners discovered a foam model UFO 64 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,480 hidden in the attic. Still, the Gulf Breeze sighting 65 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,200 captivated the community for a month and and national 66 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:31,720 attention, with a couple of mentions on The X-Files and 67 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,600 various documentaries and shorts. 68 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,920 But the 1973 reports the northwestern Florida instance 69 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,120 were largely ignored. But what happened just down the 70 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,600 coast in Pascagoula, Ms. that same month became a media 71 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,320 sensation, but the publicity wasn't similar at all. 72 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:49,160 While there was nothing more on the Pensacola incident, there 73 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,880 wasn't as plenty on what maybe happened in Pascagoula 1973. 74 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,560 Both Mississippi men would write books on their alleged 75 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,320 encounters and even one appeared on the television program. 76 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,520 To tell the truth, the Pensacola by the way of Gulf Breeze and 77 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,560 its time in the UFO spotlight wouldn't come until 15 years 78 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,360 later. And a pretty interesting article 79 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:12,200 takes a few twists and turns there bringing up the Pascagoula 80 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,600 incident. Now we go on to another article 81 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,160 here from the same newspaper. This is dated December 10th 82 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:21,200 2000, 1017 same author actually. Troy Moon Gulf Breeze UFO 83 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,920 phenomena 30 years later citing still divide public. 84 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,200 It's got a picture here of Ed Walters says in July 1990 with 85 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,240 photos he shot of UFOs and Gulf Breeze. 86 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,440 The Gulf Breeze building contractor claims to have 87 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,160 photographed UFOs on various occasions during the fall and 88 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,400 winter of 1987. An article begins, it says 3 89 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,320 decades after a Gulf Breeze building contractor released UFO 90 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:47,440 photos of circular UFOs to local media and set off a year long 91 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,840 sky guy watching phenomena, the so-called Gulf Breeze sightings 92 00:04:50,840 --> 00:04:52,800 have become part of American lore. 93 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,600 Ed Walters claimed he shot the photos from his yard on November 94 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:00,080 11th, 1987. And now even 30 years later, 95 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,280 people are still divided on what really happened in the in Gulf 96 00:05:03,280 --> 00:05:06,400 Breeze in late 1987 through 1988. 97 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,680 Even the nations most legendary UF all of the just fictional FBI 98 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:15,480 agent Fox Mulder from the 1990s hit Series X-Files weighed in on 99 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,640 the Gulf Breeze sightings when it was revealed the character 100 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,560 investigated the panhandled sightings and wrote an essay on 101 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,480 the phenomena for Omni Magazine says. 102 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,880 I really don't have a good opinion on whether they're fake 103 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,800 or not. There was so much controversy 104 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,960 about it and MUFON went back and forth about it. 105 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,440 When I first saw the Gulf Breeze photos, I knew they were a hoax, 106 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,840 Mulder said in the classic 1994 episode. 107 00:05:35,840 --> 00:05:37,840 EBE. And Mulder was a person who 108 00:05:37,840 --> 00:05:39,320 famously always wanted to believe. 109 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,520 He goes on down here and says. But he's not alone in concluding 110 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,880 that the controversial Walters photographs were a hoax, an 111 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,760 opinion that became more widespread after Walters moved 112 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,880 from his home in 1990. The new owner found a model of a 113 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,280 flying saucer wrapped an old draft paper in the attic. 114 00:05:54,280 --> 00:05:57,800 The model was made out of foam pipe, plates, cardboard, paper 115 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,480 and tended plastic gel. You got to wonder why would you 116 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,720 leave that thing there? Walters claimed the model was 117 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,400 planted, but most thought and still think Walters photos were 118 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,200 a hoax. There were witnesses who alleged 119 00:06:09,280 --> 00:06:13,040 knowledge of the staged UFO. News Journal reporters and 120 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,600 photographers later used the model to stage their own UFO 121 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,000 models that seemed identical to the ones taken by Walters. 122 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:21,080 Now you can see the picture there. 123 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,040 I did do a short video on this I posted on YouTube, and you can 124 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,680 kind of decide yourself if the pictures that they recreated are 125 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,560 the same. I don't know, They look a little 126 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,000 different to me, but what do I know? 127 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:32,760 It says. Craig Myers was the lead 128 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,200 reporter on the story for the Pensacola News Journal during 129 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,720 the Gulf Breeze sightings and subsequent controversy. 130 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,280 He wrote a dozen stories on the sightings and specifically 131 00:06:41,280 --> 00:06:44,240 Walters claims, and later wrote a book on the Gulf Breeze 132 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,800 sightings. Today, he works as an editorial 133 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,280 assistant for Middle Tennessee State University, where he still 134 00:06:50,280 --> 00:06:52,880 gives the occasional lecture on the Gulf Breeze Sightings. 135 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,680 Meyers is confident the photographs were faked by 136 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,280 Walters, who was known as a prankster, according to news 137 00:06:59,280 --> 00:07:02,080 reports from the time. Maybe it started as a fun prank, 138 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,360 Meyer said, but then it just took off and snowballed. 139 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,360 He's probably the smartest guy in the room and most of the 140 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,320 rooms he walks into. Walters could not be reached for 141 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,520 comment, but as always, maintained, the photographs he 142 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,680 took were authentic. He also wrote a book on the 143 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,880 topic titled Gulf Breeze Sightings. 144 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,720 And even now, there are those who believe Walter's story and 145 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,520 the validity of his photographs, including noted UFO researcher 146 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,600 and physicist Bruce Maccabee, who has written numerous 147 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,240 research papers and technical papers on the Gulf Breeze 148 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,920 sightings, he says. I think they're real, he said of 149 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,800 Walters photographs, dismissing the model found later. 150 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,760 I think the model is a hoax. Hoax squared. 151 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,240 Even if you dismiss Walters photographs, Maccabee said, 152 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,640 there were too many other witnesses who claimed to see 153 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,720 UFOs in the Gulf Breeze area, and not all of them can be 154 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,600 ignored. You had politicians reporting 155 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,440 seeing objects, he said. There were so many sightings 156 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,320 that you have to account for unless you believe there was a 157 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,200 massive occlusion on the part of the residence of Gulf Breeze and 158 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:59,680 Pensacola. And then there's a picture of 159 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,400 this lady holding what looks like a kind of a time lapse 160 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:03,920 photo, possibly of a UFO, it says. 161 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:08,120 On February 20th, 1990, Gulf Breeze City Councilwoman Brenda 162 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,720 Pollack holds a photograph she took at night of a bright red 163 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,480 light hovering over Gulf Breeze near the Gulf Breeze United 164 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,720 Methodist Church. Says Denny Boone, who was living 165 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,760 in Gulf Breeze at the time with daughters who were then six and 166 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,480 eight years old, says My daughters and I saw something 167 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,520 spinning just barely above the trees at dusk, she recalled. 168 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,800 We were on Central Drive off Hwy. 98 looking W toward the 169 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,360 South side. They saw at first and came 170 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,360 inside to get me. I couldn't believe what I was 171 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,760 seeing, but I know I saw something in the sky that 172 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,159 rotated. It wasn't a plane or copter. 173 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:42,760 There are countless stories like that. 174 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,520 Hundreds of people began watching the skies over Gulf 175 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:49,560 Breeze, most congregating at watch parties at Shoreline Park. 176 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,960 Dozens reported sightings, but none came close to matching the 177 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,080 clarity and proximity of Walter's photographs. 178 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,880 I really don't have a good opinion on whether they're faked 179 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,840 or not, said George Williams, state section director of the 180 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,080 Florida Mutual UFO Network in Tallahassee and the field 181 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,840 investigator who has investigated the Gulf Breeze 182 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,120 sightings extensively. There was so much controversy 183 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,560 about it, and MUFON went back and forth about it for years, 184 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,400 but he made a model and buried an installation question mark. 185 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,400 That just doesn't sound right, But I don't know. 186 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,720 But no matter Walter's photos, Williams and Gulf Breeze and 187 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,280 Pensacola remain a UFO hotspot. We still get reports of 188 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:26,720 interesting stuff in the area, he said. 189 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:31,560 And in 1987, you had hundreds of people besides Walters reporting 190 00:09:31,560 --> 00:09:34,360 sightings. It's always been an interesting 191 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,240 area. Yeah, that's the thing. 192 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,760 It's just like, well, I mean, if you did fake it, how did they 193 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,320 fake all of these other sightings? 194 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,280 Now, there was one other article here in Wikipedia. 195 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,360 Of course, you know, a lot of times Wikipedia is a little bit 196 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:50,320 on the debunking side, but they had a little bit more of an 197 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,760 angle on this thing where they were talking about the money 198 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,040 involved, which I did not realize to me that the amounts 199 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,560 were pretty substantial. It says. 200 00:09:59,560 --> 00:10:00,920 So it talks about the model here. 201 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,280 It says probably way down the article and we'll finish up. 202 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:04,920 It says. The discovery of the model 203 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:09,160 proved instantly divisive within the UFO community, with Walter's 204 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,440 supporters repeating his claim that the model had been planted. 205 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,560 Boyd, formerly a director of MUFON, later said he was forced 206 00:10:16,560 --> 00:10:19,880 to leave the group when he expressed doubt in the photos. 207 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,400 News columnist Mark Curtis said that two MUFON investigators who 208 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,240 confirmed the hoax war themselves literally chased out 209 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,600 of MUFON by its remaining true believers. 210 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,440 Contrary to claims by his supporters that he had refused 211 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,680 money for telling a story, the News Journal reported that 212 00:10:34,680 --> 00:10:40,120 Walters had been given a $200,000 book advance and 213 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:46,240 offered $450,000 by the American Broadcasting Company, ABC for 214 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,840 miniseries rights. The paper also reported that 215 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:54,240 Walters had previously served 18 months in prison in 1967 for 216 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:58,160 forgery and auto theft charges, and he was granted a pardon by 217 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,640 Governor Barb Martinez in March of 1990. 218 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,560 Wow. So that's, I'm not saying that 219 00:11:03,560 --> 00:11:06,760 this is just what's reported here in Wikipedia from this News 220 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,520 Journal. Very strange. $200,000 would 221 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:14,520 have been a lot of money back in 1980, seven, 1988, you could 222 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,800 have got a nice little modest house in a lot of states for 50 223 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,200 or $60,000. And if you combine the $200,000 224 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:27,160 with a $450,000 offer from from a television station, boy that 225 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,200 would have been significant, significant amount of money. 226 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,800 Then it goes and it finishes up. It says on October 5th, 1988, 227 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,040 Unsolved Mysteries and later TV special called UFO Cover Up Live 228 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,120 featured of the Gulf Breeze UFO case. 229 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,920 In 1989, eyewitness Shirley McConnell talked about her 230 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,040 experience on A Current Affair, Unsolved magazines Inside 231 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:47,800 Edition and A Current Affair filmed. 232 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,640 Current Affair filmed more UFO shows in July 1990. 233 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,320 On a 1994 episode of The X-Files, character Fox Mulder 234 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,960 mentions the Gulf Breeze UFO photos, whose partner Dana 235 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,560 Scholick saying that the first time he saw the photos he knew 236 00:11:59,560 --> 00:12:01,120 they were fake. And we've heard that. 237 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:05,240 So absolutely a world famous case here. 238 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,720 It's amazing. Was he paid that much money? 239 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,920 Well, I actually don't know, but that's what they're reporting 240 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:12,720 here. All the whole thing with the 241 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,560 model that was discovered in the house, whether or not that was 242 00:12:16,560 --> 00:12:18,160 his, I guess we don't know that either. 243 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:19,680 But the pictures are fascinating. 244 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,400 And like I said, they've taken some pictures that were 245 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,400 reconstructions, people saying, well, we're going to redo this 246 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,680 fake picture that you've done and show how easy it is. 247 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,520 They, they don't look exactly the same to me. 248 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,080 I just don't know what goes on here. 249 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,760 I'll finish up, it said. In a February 1993 News Journal 250 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,360 editorial, Curtis revisited the evidence against Walters 251 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,720 account, and that's this journalist mentioning a friend 252 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,560 of the Walters family, Tommy Smith, had come forward 253 00:12:47,560 --> 00:12:51,280 admitting to have witnessed Ed faking the UFO pictures as a 254 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,280 practical joke. Curtis also reported that Walter 255 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:58,560 and his wife had divorced in November 1992, splitting two and 256 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:01,280 a half million dollars in assets that Curtis believed came from 257 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:02,960 the hoax. Well, I don't know. 258 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:04,800 I mean, the guy was a building contractor. 259 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,680 He was successful, could just earn that straight up. 260 00:13:07,680 --> 00:13:08,840 But you kind of see what happens here. 261 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,560 This is a problem with some of these UFO sightings when money 262 00:13:11,560 --> 00:13:13,480 gets involved. To me, if the guy wanted to take 263 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:18,000 money for sharing a story with a, with a broadcast company or 264 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,280 whatever, I mean, I'm OK with that. 265 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,600 I'd probably be best if you're transparent about it. 266 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,440 But you can kind of see what happens when this stuff's all 267 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:28,160 done kind of on the down low and then people find out about it or 268 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,760 there are assertions made, then some people will use that to 269 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,440 denigrate the testimony of this guy. 270 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:38,360 Overall fascinating case of Ed Walters UFO pulp right pictures. 271 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,560 Until next time, this is UFO warning over and out.