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Hello and welcome to the 
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You have a warning and this 
episode we're looking at new 

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eyewitnesses that's correct. 
And new eyewitnesses 

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specifically in the case of 
Charles Hickson and Calvin 

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Parker that was that UFO 
Abduction case it took place 

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back in 1973. 
Now I did a podcast on this back

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in October of 2019, these 
eyewitnesses actually came 

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forward. 
I believe in March or a little 

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before. 
March in 2019 probably shortly 

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after a Calvin's. 
Second book on the abduction 

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came out, I did a podcast on 
that but unfortunately the audio

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on it was was not correct and 
one of the viewers on my YouTube

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channel reached out and asked me
if I would do another podcast on

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this subject. 
So I said, sure. 

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Now the article comes to us from
Clarion Ledger.com and the 

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Clarion Ledger and it's by Brian
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The title says, the story is 
very true. 

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That's what has bothered me for 
45 years UFO. 

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I This speak. 
And then again, like I said, 

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this is where the Mississippi 
Clarion-Ledger. 

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Now, if you go to the website 
here it has a little video of 

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the couple, a couple of 
witnesses talking. 

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And it starts off as says, it's 
a story that has fascinated 

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people for decades to pass 
Kaluga men claim, they were 

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abducted by aliens while fishing
on Pascagoula River. 

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As it was expected by the two 
men, Charles Hickson and Calvin 

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Parker. 
There's Stewart was often met 

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with skepticism and You'll now 
three more eye witnesses have 

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come forward. 
All three of them. 

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Say they saw some sort of flying
object with a bright blue light 

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at the same time and in the same
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Now, just a few days ago, on one
the podcast, we talked about the

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actual Sheriff, his interview 
with Charles and Calvin and the 

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fact that they had been recorded
without their knowledge, while 

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the law enforcement was not in 
the interrogation room. 

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The fact that the sheriff Them 
fact, it was kind of cute. 

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He said, in his report he says, 
he didn't think either. 

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One of these guys had enough 
imagination to create this 

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story. 
And so many words in other 

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words, he just saw these. 
These two individuals, as 

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salt-of-the-earth, honest 
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Now, I did a, I did an episode 
on this on YouTube and one of 

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the viewers reached out to me to
tell me that they had been 

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neighbors with Charles hickson's
family and that they were good, 

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people honest people. 
People and that Charles hiss can

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Hickson was what they thought 
was well respected guy and also 

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as I understand it he was a 
combat veteran from the Korean 

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War so I just can't eat from 
everything what people that 

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neutral said about him, and the 
feeling that I got from watching

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interviews with Charles, does 
not seem to me, like, the kind 

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of person that would allow a 
19-year old Calvin Parker to 

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drag him into a false alien 
abduction story. 

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I mean, I believe that Charles 
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happened Calvin, I think was 
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So these are just a couple guys,
an older guy with the young kid 

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fishing on a pier down. 
Pascal yoga there, a completely 

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innocent victims and the reason 
that they want to law 

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enforcement I think was because 
there was so shocked by what had

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happened to him. 
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eyewitnesses says she saw what 
she originally thought was a man

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in the water but now believes 
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Goes on. 
She says it was October 11th. 

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1973 Parker said, we'd gotten 
off work that day and a friend 

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of mine. 
He and I went fishing, the old 

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abandoned Shipyard. 
They had a little peer out front

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and we were on that Pier. 
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6:00 in the morning. 
It had just started getting dark

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but it was kind of a bright 
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So he got a couple. 
Third shift workers that are out

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here after you get off work. 
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morning before sunrise and 
there's out there fishing and 

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the river, it's 19. 73. 
Okay goes on and says Parker 

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said he saw blue light 
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thought Law Enforcement Officers
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leave the property. 
However when Parker looked up, 

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he realized the light was coming
from a craft like nothing he'd 

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ever seen a big light came out 
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Parker said, it was a blinding 
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It was hard to tell what the 
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like it was shaped like a 
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I would say just as Animating it
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made very little sound, it was 
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So there's old Calvin and 
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fishing when it's 80 foot craft 
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In the middle of the river, it 
has his Brandy blinding blue 

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light emanating from it. 
And it makes a very low hissing 

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sound Parker said three legless 
creatures, floated from the 

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craft one had no neck with gray 
wrinkled skin. 

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Another had a neck and appeared 
more feminine, Parker described 

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their hands. 
As being shaped like mittens are

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crab claws. 
When one of the creatures, put 

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one of its claws around his arm 
Parker said he was terrified but

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then another feeling came over 
his body I think the injected us

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with something to calm us down 
Parker said I was kind of numb 

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and went along. 
Along with the program you know 

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Calvin had the presence of mind 
to know that even though he was 

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doing this against his own free 
will he was being controlled by 

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these entities. 
I was kind of numb and went 

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along with the program. 
Now, maybe he was injected with 

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something, maybe. 
This is some sort of Mind 

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Control, we don't know. 
Another thing I find 

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fascinating, is the shapes of 
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The he said, they look like crab
hands. 

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You know, I often believe that 
these things, when they show up 

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on the scene, Whether it's the 
aliens or the shape, or the 

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ship's, they take the shape of 
things around them. 

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It's like you have this AI 
program which is incorporating 

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whatever's around it to create a
visual for us. 

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And that goes along with my 
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These that these things are 
interdimensional, they're only 

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materializing long enough and 
our reality in our Dimension so 

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that we can see them so 
WhatsApp. 

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What could be happening here? 
Is this thing shows up as a 

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sphere because that's the 
wheezes shape for it to assume 

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it produces as Blue Light, which
is a common light these things 

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produce. 
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doesn't say that the door opens.
It doesn't say anything about a 

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window opening. 
It's almost like they just 

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emerge from the ship. 
Many times we have these things 

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described. 
As it's almost as, if they are a

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part of the ship, we have cases 
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transform itself into aliens, 
and Aliens back into mechanical 

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ship, they are ship shafting, 
between between orbs, between 

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mechanical devices between 
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And that's what seems to be 
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These things emerge from the 
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I have to wonder where they 
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River where they Imitating the 
actual crabs and fish are in 

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that river. 
Is that why the shapes were so 

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strange that they were just 
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information from whatever 
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be in the area? 
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them closest to them was maybe a
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or a big old crab. 
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strange weird shapes, really 
unique, compared to what we what

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we often hear about as far as 
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the grey aliens or or, you know,
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But these things just to be 
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scene they materialize. 
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they get busy abducting Charles 
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He says, when one of the creep, 
one, one of the creatures, put 

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his claws around his arm Parker 
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another feeling came over his 
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I think they were I think they 
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calm us down. 
Parker said I was kind of numb 

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and when Along with the program,
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floated him and Hickson into the
craft and performed physical 

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examinations on the two then 
they were taken back to the bank

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of the river now. 
This is another situation where 

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it looks like these guys were 
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What happened on that ship, the 
member simbah little bit fuzzy 

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and I think sometimes the reason
the memories are so fuzzy is 

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either number one because 
they're just blocking them out 

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because was so traumatizing or 
possibly, they received some 

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sort of psychic treatment from 
these entities to prevent them 

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from remembering what happened 
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The article says Hickson, who 
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about his experience, Parker, 
who now? 

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Lives in Moss Point. 
What can was not and spent much 

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of his life, distancing himself 
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However, he published a book and
his experience in 2018. 

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And since people who had been 
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experience that night are now 
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So you see, Calvin had the 
courage to speak out and that 

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brought more witnesses out of 
the woodwork Maria and Jerry 

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Blair of Theodore Alabama or 
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And as I pictured, this couple 
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were sitting in their 1969, 
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of G Seafood on the night and 
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Side of the river, Jerry worked 
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for was waiting on a boat 
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captain was late and the blares 
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dark, Maria saw something 
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I was looking at the sky and I A
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where they were fishing. 
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it seemed like it was following 
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It started moving and it seemed 
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paths. 
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Calvin and Charles lots of 
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We're here. 
This this thing shows up on the 

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scene, it picks out a victim. 
Just like, you know, if you were

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a couple of research scientists 
in a helicopter, hang out a 

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specimen to bag and tag there's 
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minding their own business 
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And this thing a stocking them 
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says, I just seen the lights on 
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forth, sometimes it would just 
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It went on for 20 to 25 minutes 
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Maybe maybe that accounts for 
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Charles had because they 
described All situations 

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happening in a few minutes, but 
it sounds like this thing came 

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down. 
Took them aboard the ship, had 

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their way with them and then 
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So there were just sitting there
about 20 or 25 minutes and what 

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are these entities or what if 
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seem like it really cared. 
If anybody noticed Maria said 

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she initially thought it was a 
plane, But realize the light 

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pattern and hovering were not 
indicative of playing Jerry 

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watched it also, but didn't 
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I thought it was a helicopter. 
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Dre said it landed about 150 to 
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I was just north of the bridge 

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and it was just south of the 
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stupid me didn't pay much 
attention to it. 

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I was just going offshore and 
thinking about other things, you

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know what, maybe that maybe 
Jerry was under some sort of, 

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you know, mild hypnosis or mild,
mind control from the same. 

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Because this is also something 
that we frequently hear with 

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mass UFO, sightings some people 
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Some people don't some people 
pay attention, some people say, 

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oh yeah, I saw something I 
didn't think about On it. 

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It says, after they lost sight 
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put Jerry's clothing and other 
items on the boat while walking 

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down the light appeared. 
Something else, caught their 

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attention. 
We heard this loud thumping, 

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splashing. 
The river Maria said, I looked 

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over the side of the pier and 
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I saw a person in the river. 
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It looked like a person, but 
there was something different 

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about it. 
It only came to the surface of 

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the water as soon as I saw it. 
It, I just went back down. 

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It, just went back down in the 
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Whatever. 
Maria had seen. 

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What she thought was a person in
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She did not did not resurface 
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He was walking ahead of her and 
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been a dolphin. 
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It wasn't the dolphin jury went 
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Maria returned to home. 
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reports of Parker Nixon 
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the aliens matched. 
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She had seen in the water, I 
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I think it was an alien race. 
Said, what? 

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Parker described was exactly it.
Well, you know, you can forgive 

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the lady for not saying anything
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you know, Wow, how in the world?
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yourself this this 80-foot craft
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river? 
These aliens emerged from. 

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It, abduct these two gentlemen, 
take him back on the ship 

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returned them to the land, float
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then, on the way back, you see 
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ship, but before he gets into 
the ship, he sees you and 

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submerges under the water. 
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experience later that evening, 
Judy. 

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D. 
Judy branding was sitting in a 

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car, a few miles away at a 
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and their dates. 
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night branding said, we were at 
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90. 
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the railroad track, I saw some 
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was looking at because it was so
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Like the like The Blair is 
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airplane at first but but as it 
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car, she was in, she was in the 
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So they're in a car, they're 
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They See this craft flies over 
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And when it flies over them, 
they realize this isn't like any

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airplane they've ever seen. 
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Banning said it had bright 
bright lights, same thing, 

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Calvin said, Excessively bright 
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It got closer and it was 
hovering it was kind of a 

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saucer-shaped or disc shape with
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The radio, the radio started 
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through all the stations and the
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out. 
This is more common electrical 

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interference that we frequently 
hear about what these clothes, 

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UFO encounters branding said 
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the craft shot straight up at a 
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It should never seen and 
disappeared it left her shaken 

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quote. 
I didn't sleep that night 

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thinking about it. 
Burning set writing said the for

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agreed not to say anything about
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She said over the years, she 
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because she was scared, but she 
was scared of people's reactions

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now. 74 years old. 
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people believe her or not. 
Maria said, she told people what

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she's saying, but, but largely 
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weeks following that evening. 
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then, People thought you were 
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Maria said, back then when I saw
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through, I kind of backed down 
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The story is very true. 
That has what's bothering me for

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45 years, it's been on my mind 
for 45 years. 

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Just imagine that 45 years of 
carrying this around. 

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Parker was meant, Parker has met
with the blares and branding and

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said he's happy. 
They are now telling their 

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stories publicly, I checked the 
people out as best I could and 

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they seem credible. 
Parker said it means a lot to 

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me. 
That they They came forward. 

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Parker fields are more witnesses
out there. 

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I definitely do Parker said 
there have been two or three 

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people that have contacted me 
privately, but didn't want their

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names. 
Use, I believe. 

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There are more people that 
haven't come forward back in the

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70s. 
You just didn't talk about it, 

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Parkersburg Pascal, a good. 
The closest encounter. 

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My story is available on 
amazon.com. 

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Well, what a story and Calvin 
Parker still alive. 

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As far as I know, a really 
interesting cat. 

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I've watched his videos. 
I to me this is one Of the most 

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sincere realest, most real, most
believable UFO Abduction cases, 

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I have ever come across and 
these the four eyewitnesses that

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have come forward. 
Now Daniel 45 years later. 

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Now 48 years after the fact to 
say yes I was there. 

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I saw it happen, Calvin, Charles
were not lying until next time, 

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this is UFO morning over and 
out.