Hello and welcome to the program UFO Warning.
In this episode, we're talking about JFK&UF O's.
That's correct, JFK&UF O's. And there's been a recent
article come out in Popular Mechanics talking about the
possible connection between the assassination of JFK and his
efforts to bring disclosure to this UFO phenomena.
So getting into that, I'm going to look at a couple articles.
First, RFK. Junior Robert Kennedy junior is
running for the Democratic presidential slot, obviously,
and he's been becoming kind of vocal on who he thought was
involved. And you know, what agencies at
least were involved in the assassination of his uncle JFK.
He kind of has a more of a. If you, I would say, well, you
really couldn't call it Mainline because Mainline would just say
that it was a one shooter deal. But he kind of drifts into this
idea of the CIA. And then we'll take a look at
his opinion and then we'll look at this Popular Mechanics piece
where we really get into the nuts and bolts of was John F
Kennedy about to release some stuff on the UFO phenomena that
got him killed. Now the first article we're
looking at is thehill.com. It says Robert Kennedy Junior
sees overwhelming evidence CIA involved in JFK assassination.
The date on this is May 8th, 2023.
It says Robert Kennedy Junior, the longshot Democratic
presidential candidate has backed the conspiracy theory.
You can't even get past the first sentence and they're
throwing out the CIA Mockingbird talking point that the CIA was
involved in the killing of his uncle.
And former President John F Kennedy arguing that evidence is
quote UN quote overwhelming. So first sentence, they are
trying to deperson the guy who's talking about the the murder of
his uncle. They're calling him a conspiracy
theorist and they're putting on air quotes here his idea that
the evidence is overwhelming. So they're trying to discredit
him and deperson him. Goes on and says, quote, there
is overwhelming evidence that the CIA was involved in his
murder, Kennedy said in his Sunday interview with John
Castimatitis of New York City radio station WAB 770.
I think it's beyond a reasonable doubt at this point.
The CIA has repeatedly denied any allegation that it was
involved in the death of Kennedy, who was shot while
writing in a convertible in a parade in Dallas in 1963.
The assassination has served as the basis for some of history's
most well known. There you go.
Conspiracy theories, look. Asking questions about how a
murder of a setting U.S. President happened doesn't make
you a conspiracy theory. Postulating on different things
and motives that might have been behind it, or different methods
that might have been used to carry it out doesn't make you a
conspiracy theory. This makes you a curious person
who is considering all the possibilities while Lee Harvey
Oswald was officially identified as a gunman in the attack
conspiracy theories. Boy, this guy just can't get
enough of that word, can they? Have circulated for years around
the assassination, casting doubt on whether there were additional
shooters or conspirators connected to the attack.
The House committee assembled to investigate the killing said in
a 1979 report that given the scientific evidence, it was
probable that at least two gunmen fired at the president.
Oh, wait a minute. Does that mean that all the
House that represented the congressman that were they all
conspiracy theorists? It also concluded that he was
likely assassinated as a result of a conspiracy, but could not
identify the 2nd gunman or the extent of the conspiracy.
John Mccone, CIA Director when Kennedy was assassinated,
testified to the House committee that Oswald was not a CIA agent
and the agency never communicated or associated with
him. That's interesting.
The Commission said his testimony was corroborated by
the CIA's file on Oswald. I'm here to tell you a certain
story and I'm going to cooperate that.
By myself. So the CIA had tells him that
Oswald had no relation with them.
And then the CIA corroborates this testimony by a file that
the CIA has on Oswald Okay Kennedy Junior suggested in the
Sunni interview that his uncle's killing in November 1963.
Had to do with his refusal to commit U.S. forces to Vietnam.
When my uncle was president, he was surrounded by a military
industrial complex and intelligence apparatus that was
constantly trying to get him to go to war and Laos, Vietnam,
etcetera. Kennedy said he refused.
He said that the job of the American presidency is to keep
the nation out of war. Now remember, there was also
this little thing called the Bay of Pigs, which a lot of these
guys probably weren't happy about.
They'd kind of wanted to invade Cuba.
So the war mongers are always there.
We've seen this is no different than is it than it is today.
During the interview, Kennedy also floated the the wait a
minute conspiracy theory. This is like a game of slug bug
or something, you know, Remember when you're a kid going in the
highways, your folks in the back seat with your little brother or
sister. Every time you've seen a
Volkswagen, you got to punch the other kid because it was Slug
Bug. Well, boy, I'll tell you what,
if you played that game in this article and every time you saw
the phrase conspiracy theory, you got to give the other guy a
Charlie Horse boy, that guy wouldn't be able to walk, would
they? OK, during the interview,
Kennedy also floated the conspiracy theory that the CIA
may have been involved in the killing of his own father,
Robert F Kennedy, a former US Attorney general who was fatally
shot in Los Angeles when campaigning for president in
1968. Yeah, when you are a former DOG
head, I guess, attorney general, and you threaten the deep state.
You might be putting a target on your back now.
In those days they just shot you.
It seems like in these days they create a worldwide pandemic.
Allegedly, Robert Kennedy Junior said evidence of CIA involvement
in his father's death is very convincing, but is
circumstantial. We do not have the really strong
documentary, testimonial evidence that we had with my
uncle, Kennedy said. Kennedy, a prominent anti
vaccine activist. Oh boy, here we go again.
Why do we have to throw these guys under the bus with the
conspiracy theorist? I do not believe that Kennedy is
a prominent anti vaccine activist.
I have to tell you I've watched many of his interviews.
He's not anti vaccine and he just he has a different way of
doing things. He doesn't want to give full
doses to little kids. He thought the whole COVID thing
was a little premature. He's not a he's not anti
vaccine. In fact I think he's described
himself as pro back vaccine. So they're really trying to deep
person this guy over the notion that the Kennedy assassination
might not have went down like the way they've told us it did.
Kennedy, a prominent anti vaccine activist, announced last
month that he would mount a Democratic primary bid against
President Biden in 2024. You know, if RFK did get in, and
I think it's a possibility, I think he might be the kind of
guy that would be able to bring some disclosure to this.
I think he might be the kind of personality that he would just
go in there like a bowl in a China closet and start releasing
stuff. Stuff about his dad, stuff about
his uncle. And if you start to release his
Kennedy files, I don't think there's any way you cannot
release the UFO files now seguing into this whole.
Question about JFK Andy's UFO files.
I want to look at this article here from Popular Mechanics.
This came up on my Twitter feed and somebody had posted it and
thank you to that person and I retweeted it.
The article is from popularmechanics.com.
It says a newly declassified CIA file loosely links Jfk's
assassination to Ufo's. Can't even get past the subtitle
guys. Now conspiracy theorists are
asking even more questions. Why do you have to be a
conspiracy theorist to ask a question?
Why can't you just be somebody who has a IQ above room
temperature? How about that?
Written by Shasha Gabroski, published July 18th, 2023.
So right off the bat, they're telling you if you ask
questions, we're going to deperson you.
We're going to call you a conspiracy theorist.
President Joe Biden has announced that he has completed
his final certification of files to be released regarding John F
Kennedy's assassination, even though 4600. 84 documents are
still kept secret in whole or in part.
So 4647 hundred documents you can't look at.
But if you ask questions about those documents, you're a
conspiracy theorist. I mean, where's the common sense
at the National Archives was has already released thousands of
confidential documents related to November 1963 assassination
of then President Kennedy. The documents included
information from the CIAFBI, State Department and other
agencies, and topics such as assassin Lee Harvey Oswald's
contacts with Soviet and Cuban officials, anonymous tips and
threats, and investigations into the shooting itself.
Some people call that as limited hangout, where you get a little
bit of information but not enough to really discern the
truth, it says. One of the newly released
documents revealed the name of the CIA official who intercepted
Oswald's mail in the months before JF K's killing.
Ruben Efron. So if they're intercepting
Oswald's mail before the killing, pretty clear to me.
He's on the radar. Like so many of these mass
shooters. He was on our radar.
It turned like the 911 guys on our radar.
Not so sure how well that radar is working out.
It turns out Efron had a UFO encounter in 1955 when he was on
a train journey through the Soviet Union with Senator
Richard Russell, Democrat of Georgia and an Army Colonel.
They all saw what a CIA reported report called 2 Flying Saucers.
Those skeptics later argued that they were Soviet aircraft.
Russell was among the Warren Commission members who
interviewed Marino Oswald, Lee Harvey Oswald's wife, in 1964.
OK, so let's let's just stop and think about this second.
This guy's name is Reuben Efron. It says he was the one that was
intercepting Oswald's male before the assassination.
We can take make that what you will.
Then also tells us that in 1955, which would have been like what,
6-7 years before the assassination, 8 years that he
was riding a train through the Soviet Union with Senator
Richard Russell, Richard Russell and an army Colonel.
Doesn't name the Colonel, but this Russell, this this
Representative Russell, he ends up being on the Warren
Commission down the road. Now all three of these guys
witnessed what they claim were two flying saucers.
Now we're talking about a representative in Congress.
We're talking about this spook, this Ruben Ephron and an unnamed
Army Colonel. Why would they report this UFO
if they didn't think they saw UFO later on?
It says skeptics. Who are the skeptics?
These, these know it all later argued they were Soviet
aircraft, some conspiracy theorists.
We're going to play the game again.
Boy is your shoulder sore. Yet some conspiracy theorists
see a connection between Ephron and the Kennedy assassination.
And wonder if you knew more than he let on.
Look, you would have to be somebody of a very limited IQ
not to understand that if you're reading the guy who killed the
president, allegedly, if you're reading his mail just before he
commits the murder, then yes, there is a connection there
between you and the assassination, because you have
been surveilling the very person who we're told murder JFK.
They also hope that a bipartisan bill to declassify UFO records
will will review will reveal more about the government's
knowledge and involvement in unidentified anonymous
phenomena. Notice how they changed the term
here from UFO to UUAP and not even unidentified aerial
phenomena. Now it's anomalous phenomena.
So they're they're changing the terms, they're changing the
verbiage. They're trying to confuse your.
They're sewing confusion into the discussion, into the
narrative. This is really.
And quite high level psychological manipulation
happening here, And this author, in my opinion, appears to be a
practitioner of that. People say there's nothing
significant in these files, Jefferson Morley, the editor of
the blog JFK Fax, told the New York Times.
Bingo, here's the guy who was reading Oswald's mail, a detail
they failed to share until now. You don't have to be a
conspiracy theorist to think it's suspicious.
Well, to me, you would have to be a moron to not think it was
suspicious. Senator Majority Leader Chuck
Schumer is backing A bipartisan bill that would unveil
government records on socalled UFO as an Unidentified Anomalous
Phenomena, UA P's. The bill would amend the Defense
Authorization Act and require the federal government to
compile all records on UA P's and share them with the public
unless a review board suggests keeping them secret.
Another limited hangout, in my opinion.
Nothing's getting released until it goes through a review board,
So what do you think's going to happen?
Really? The process mirrors the
president. The President John F Kennedy
Assassination Records Collection Act of 1992, which ordered all
files on Kennedy's murder to be released by the National
Archives by 2017. But some of the files remain
hidden, sparking ongoing public curiosity and a lawsuit by JFK
scholars. Well, they just told you it's
almost 4700 files you can't see. They're they are blacked out in
whole or in part, and the ones in part, all the good parts are
blacked out. So what good does it do to have
a a law saying you have to release these records if the
intelligence community just ignores you?
Schumer is teaming up with Senators Mike Rounds, the top
Republican at the sub committee on cybersecurity for the Armed
Services Committee to support the amendment.
It also has the backing of Senator Marco Rubio, Senator
Christian Gilderbrand, Senator Tod Young and Senator Martin
Heinrich. Our goal is to ensure
credibility. With regard to any investigation
or record keeping of materials related to unidentified
anonymous phenomena, Center Around said in a news release
Relevant documents related to this issue could be preserved.
Having a central collection and reputable review board to
maintain the records booster credibility of any future
investigations. So this article was about 95%
high level. Psychological warfare against
anybody who's trying to find Disclosure with UF O's.
It was about 5% truth when it talks about this Efron fellow
who was surveilling Oswald's mail just before the
assassination on JFK when it tells you that he, along with
this Congressional representative and an unnamed
army Colonel, assault 2 flying saucers.
Now this guy reported saying this flying saucer and they the
intelligence community didn't view him as being so crazy that
he was undependable to spy on Oswald.
If you connect the dots here and and say I have to admit it's a
loose connection, but you have 3 high-ranking government
officials. Well 2 high-ranking government
officials and and a spook having this.
Massive sighting if you will. 33 eyewitness sighting of a you of
two flying saucers while in the Soviet Union and they're all
connected in some way with this whole JFK assassination.
Now the Colonel we don't know for sure because he's not named,
but the Congressman did end up on the Warren Commission and
Efron did end up being the guy that was reading Oswald's mail.
So two people who openly spoke about seeing this UF these pair
of UF O's in Russia. Are directly connected to the
assassination of JFK. Now keep that in mind.
I want to look at one last little article here talking
about this theory that Kennedy sent a letter to the CIA
demanding that they release all of the UFO information that they
had. To NASA so that NASA could
prepare for the upcoming moon launch.
So you you begin to see this commonality between the UFO
phenomena and the people that were the movers and shakers in
and around this JFK assassination and the ensuing
investigation or some people call cover up and let's take a
look at this next article right here and we'll tie this all
together to finish up. Now this is about a letter that
came out from JFK to the CIA. Dated November 12th, 1963.
So what was that about? What?
A week? Eight days before his
assassination this was reported. I don't know.
The article I have here is from nbcnews.com and let's see, take
a look at the date here, April 21st, 2011.
So the idea here is that that Kennedy written this letter to
the CIA because they wanted to give NASA all the information
the CIA had about UF O's. They wanted to be safe when
they're during this moon launch. Now, the article the title of
this article says is that JFK Memo to the CIA About UF O's
Real a story that combines UFO cover ups with the assassination
of John F Kennedy as a goldmine for conspiracy theories.
There you go. And that's just what it author
William Lester says he uncovered, while conducting
research for a new book on Kennedy, a memo written by JFK
and addressed to the CIA, which the President requests
confidential information about UF O's.
And then if you look at, and I'll put the link in the Buy Me
a Coffee website, it says Top secret November 12th, 1963 to
the Director blacked out Central Intelligence Agency subject
reviews of all UFO Intelligence files affecting national
security. As I had discussed with you
previously, I have initiated BLANK and have instructed James
Webb to develop a program with the Soviet Union and joint space
and lunar exploration. It would be very helpful if you
would have the high threat cases reviewed with the purpose of
identification of bona fide as opposed to classified CIA&US Air
Force sources. It is important that we make a
clear distinction between the known and unknown in the event
the Soviets try to mistake or extend cooperation as a cover
for intelligence rather. Gathering of their own defense
and space programs. When this data has been sorted
out, I would like you to arrange a program of data sharing with
NASA where unknowns are a factor.
This will help NASA Missions Director in their defense
responsibilities. I would like an enter.
I would like to enter a report on the data review no later than
February 1st, 1964 and then he has the signature of Kennedy
here. Sounds like a a pretty
diplomatically written letter to the CIA saying, hey, we need to
know what's going on with these UF O's.
He's opening the door. This article, of course, is
written by Natalie Walt Clarborough says a story that
combines UFO cover ups with the assassination of John F Kennedy.
Is a gold mine for a conspiracy theorist, and that's just what
author Wayne Lustro says he hasn't covered.
Goes on, it says in the never before seen Top secret memo
supposedly written on November 12th, 1963.
The President ordered the CIA director to organize the
agency's intelligence files relating to UF O's and to
debrief him on all the unknowns by the following February
tenders. 10 days later, Kennedy was assassinated.
The newly surfaced document is bound to add fuel to the
Undying. Fires surrounding the
president's death, But First things first.
Is the document authentic? And then of course they're going
to go on here and tell you that there's some problems with the
document, blah blah blah. We go down a little bit.
It says missing link. Lester claims that the new
declassified memo is thus the missing link in a conspiracy
theory surrounding another document that may that many
conspiracy theorists think indicates the CIA killed Kennedy
to prevent his involvement in a UFO cover up.
However, the second document, and thus the conclusion, is also
suspect. You know, they're going to go
ahead and and just basically try to destroy any credibility.
This document has the main reason why I wanted to just
bring this up though. I just wanted to.
I'm not so much interested in what the author thinks about the
art, about this, about this file that was revealed.
It's just something that I think we need to put out there for
public consumption. You have this file.
It's been around since 2011. Now, is it true?
Is it not true? I don't know.
But it makes sense. And what's what gets me, what
really piques my interest about this is we have this file
talking about Kennedy telling the CIA to develop some program
by which they can catalog these unknowns and share that
information with NASA. That doesn't really seem to me
to be. Conspiracy worthy.
That seems like a normal thing that a president want to do.
He's starting up this whole. Well, NASA's been around since
well, at 5556. So NASA's been around a few
years, but they're getting ready for this moon launch program.
Well, it would be prudent for NASA to have access to any
information the CIA might have if there was any kind of dangers
that they were they were going to encounter.
I mean. Unknowns.
That doesn't mean it has to be UF O's.
I mean, it could be something the Russians have put up there.
So he's just basically asking the CIA to share some of the
data they have about these unknown objects.
He's not asking them to compromise national security or
anything like that. He's just saying, hey, look, I
want you to work with NASA on protecting this, the space
program, protecting it from possible UF O's and also
protecting it from anything nefarious that the Soviets might
be doing so. I kind of lean toward the idea
that this letter from Kennedy to the CIA about UF O's is
legitimate because he's not just saying give me the UFO
information. It's not like that at all.
He's simply asking the CIA to share the data that they have on
these unknown objects with NASA in order to create a safer
environment for NASA to operate in.
And also as a hedge against any kind of intelligence gathering
that the Soviets might be doing, especially if we're going to be
working with the Soviets in any sort of cooperative space
program. Now that just sounds like
somebody who's thinking clearly, somebody who's trying to protect
the interest of the interest of the United States and someone
who's trying to create a safe work environment for the people
at NASA. I don't see anything
conspiratorial about that at all.
Now if the CIA took this as some sort of a threat by Kennedy that
he was kind of stepping into their their their little Kingdom
of UFO data, well that's on them.
So that part, that part doesn't bother me.
I I tend to believe that this is this could very well be a
legitimate letter written from President Kennedy to the CIAI
don't see, I don't see any big red flags on this other than
maybe there's a couple of. Of inconsistencies here and the
type and the typing or typos or whatever.
I think I think we can work around that now.
You combine that this document, which just seems like something
that would be a normal thing for a president to do, at least for
me. Combine that with this recent
revelation from popular mechanic that this Efron guy who was the
very individual who was intercepting Oswald's male who
had been at the Soviet Union with this future Warren
Commission Congressman and an unnamed Colonel.
They all three have a UFO experience.
So you can you can you start to see this, this threat of UFO
phenomena going through this story.
I mean, we have Robert F Kennedy Junior saying, yeah, I think the
CIA was involved in the death of my uncle and probably my dad.
Then you have the CIA obviously implicated in possessing UFO
phenomena data. He calls them unknowns.
And then you have these three individuals.
That were associated with it with the assassination of
President Kennedy have this UFO experience now we have Popular
Mechanics well known debunker of the whole UFO phenomena coming
forward and saying Oh well, you might just want to know that
we've uncovered this guy's name who had been kept from us for
the last 60 years and he was a UFO guy so.
It's almost as if they're beginning to open the door a
little bit so that people can become, can become comfortable
with associating the UFO phenomena with John F Kennedy
and say, well, there was some kind of connection there.
Now, how they're going to try to spin this narrative as we go
down the road, who knows? But this is something, this is
something to keep an eye on, I believe, this connection between
the UFO phenomena. The power struggle around the
around trying to control that UFO phenomena data.
This unknowns as as Kennedy Kill calls them.
This power struggle around controlling that information and
just what happens when you get too far out of line.
Until next time this is UFO warning over and out.