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from kare11.com written by Chris her apps.
Key dated August 4th 2021 title says Minnesota's.
Most notorious UFO sighting remains a mystery for decades
later. Because launches a sheriff's,
deputy and counters, a hovering light still unexplained.
This is from Warren Minnesota. Now, this is clear up in the
Northwest part of Minnesota, even north of Fargo Clover on
the western edge of the state near North Dakota that's
relevant, because that's where our next case comes from.
Now, it says, UFOs are getting a ton of attention lately after a
recent Pentagon report admits to unexplained aerial phenomena,
but government can Lane it turns out what's widely believed to be
among the most significant UFO sightings ever happened right
here in Minnesota August 27th. 1979 in Warren Minnesota about
20 miles from the North Dakota border border Marshall County
Sheriff's. Deputy Val Johnson was on patrol
early in the morning on Highway 5.
When you saw bright light to the south on Highway 220 Johnson
thought, maybe a crisis Mi or downplaying, but as he
approached it, he said Light instantly jumped through the
windshield, hitting him like a 200-pound pillow knocking, him
out. Now that had to be a frightening
experience because like a lot of us.
If you've seen a UFO near a highway, the first thing your
brain does is start to try to reason things out.
What's that light? I mean, could it be an able?
And it's going to be a evacuation helicopter, some sort
of a police car. Are a wreck and I'm sure those
were things that were going through his mind.
It says his reaction was preserved in the actual radio
call to dispatch when he awoke and it goes to follow us.
It says the dispatch operator. 407.
What is your condition? Deputy Johnson?
I don't know, something. Just hit my car, dispatch.
What's your condition? Are you?
Okay, Johnson, something. Attacked my car.
I heard the glass breaking and the locks.
The brakes locked up. I don't know.
What's going on? According to the Sheriff's
Office, investigative reports Johnson's wristwatch and the
clock. On the 1977, Ford LTD Cruiser
stopped working for 14 minutes. Johnson said, his teeth were
fractured at the gum line and his eyes burned.
My eyes were extremely painful as if I've been subject to
something like an arc welder burn or something.
So, Johnson during an interview on the 1980 TV show, that's
incredible because story and injuries.
Justify the nation. But there's another piece of
evidence that still brings the curious to the Marshall County
Historical Society Museum, the squad car damage and all this is
the big thing. They come to see said Cheryl
Meyer Cheryl admire director of the Marshall County Historical
Society while showing us the actual damage to the squad car.
Now, if you look at the pictures of this online or they've got a
short video on this site. You see the car that headlight
smashed out a dent on the roof? And what's really gets my
Tension is the antennas that are bent over.
It's like somebody just took a pair of vise, grips, and bent
these steel antanas. Over of course, you know, Back
in 77 had these big long Whiplash to antenna on top and
then one of the back, both these hard steel antanas just bent
over whatever hit him. Started with a broken headlight
and up here, there is a weird debt.
On top of the hood, broke the windshield, hit the reflector
and bent both of the antenna. The Sheriff's Office back in
1979, brought out experts from Honeywell, and Ford Motor
Company, to examine the damage quote.
I have not seen anything like this before said for crash
investigator, married in French and the that's incredible show.
They are extremely unusual. Now, this is a professional
crash investigator. I can imagine this guy's pretty
much seen it all, and he says he hasn't seen anything like it
before. Dennis break.
The Marshall County Sheriff. At the time said, you took
Johnson at his word. Feel that whatever Val told me
about the light and the strange incident was true.
I don't doubt Valentine. Anyway said breaking the video,
the sheriff tried other means to get an answer as to what
happened to Johnson, investigative documents show, he
reached out to Allen Henry, Chief investigator with the
center for UFO studies. The biggest mystery about the
Val, Johnson case is trying to find out one need explanation
for something that could behave the way he described yet create
the kinds of damage that we discovered Sudden Henry and then
that's encoded bort bort No 1 in 42 years has been able to
explain what happened including Johnson upon reflection.
We've come to the conclusion that perhaps the creator has
made other things. We can't readily see, or readily
identify perhaps. This is one of the things we
encountered on the road said, Johnson to a studio audience
during the action credible goes on.
And says, where's Deputy Johnson today?
People in Warren. Said he'd moved away and stop
doing interviews on this a while ago.
We Searched online and found an address for Val Johnson in
Wisconsin. So we drove there and it turns
out he was the right man. Of course, I think he's in his
late 70s down. We spoke with him for 20
minutes, but he did not want to go on record because of the
stress and attention. This has caused his family for a
long time. So, he came out, he talked about
it publicly and what happens, there's this deep personal
campaign assets and we did. He did, however, provide his
permit us to pass on the notion that he hopes, the new you UFO.
Sightings and government reports might give people New
Perspective on this story. Yeah it does.
Pictures are just, I mean riveting.
Actually there's another article here that I think is pretty
good. I want to go ahead and read this
one here. This is the same case.
Now, this is from a little bit little bit older article.
This August 27th 2015, it's from MPR news dot-org.
Written by John Inger. It says whatever happened to the
Marshall County cop, who hit a UFO and that's got this old
picture from the time. Have him standing out there on
the road. This is on September 11th, 1979
Val, Johnson stood where he says he had been in golf by a flash
of light, two weeks. Earlier, indicated, how big the
beam was at beam was as it approached and he has his hands
out here. Well, maybe twice the size of a
basketball. So it's almost like ball,
lightning that size but I don't think it was that just, by the
way, it acted at 140 am 36 years ago, Marshall, County Sheriff's.
Deputy Val Johnson courses 2015. So you can do the math.
Be what 42, 43 years ago, whatever says Marshall County
Sheriff's. Deputy Val Johnson was on night
Patrol along a rural section of State Highway, 220 Nero Warren,
Minnesota. When he drove into a ball of
white, White light, quote, I noticed a very bright brilliant,
light 8 to 12 inches, in diameter three, excuse me, three
to four feet off. The ground Johnson said in a
taped police interview. The exes were very defined
Johnson drove toward the light and woke up in the ditch, a half
hour later with Burns around his eyes and almost seems like maybe
you had lost time here. You know, the windshield and one
headlight of his 1977 Ford LTD were smashed both radio and Tana
were bent, sharply back, the watch on his wrist, and the
clock on the dash. Both ticked 14 minutes slow.
Now that's strange because it says, the clock in the car and
the washer 14 minutes behind But he was in the ditch about a half
hour, you know, I would really love to see this guy.
Do some regression hypnotherapy to see if there was some sort of
an abduction that actually happened that maybe he's not
remembering or not talking about.
I suppose the incident turned Johnson into a local Legend and
National media sensation and years later, people are still
talking about it. Johnson squad, cars preserved in
the Marshall County Museum, with the plaque that says UFO car,
which is a lot of stuff online. You can see pictures of this
little Museum. They have there really Kind of a
neat thing, I think. People still come from miles
around to see it. It's an annual display at the
Marshall County Fair. Sometimes former Marshall County
Sheriff. Dennis sometimes former Marshall
County Sheriff. Dennis break gives a talk at the
Museum. I bought the car in the
nineties, Deputy drove it into a ball of light, people,
investigated and never drew police investigated and never
drew any conclusions and has in the picture here that
windshield, which enemy smash pretty good, that impact seems
to have taken place at the bottom of the window.
Shield driver side when you got a major impact and then a
smaller one above it and it's really something it goes on and
says, but the incidents enduring Fame has linger far beyond
Marshall County. What's known as a veljohnson.
What's known as the Val Johnson incident remains one of the top
10 most influential UFO Encounters in history.
According to German Clark who wrote about it in his 1998 book,
the UFO encyclopedia paranormal TV shows like UFO files and
Mysteries at the Museum. Filmed reenactments even now
people debate the legitimacy of the counter and online forums.
Well they can debate all they want.
We have evidence. It was an extraordinarily
important case. Clerk said plenty of people have
strange experiences on back roads at night Clark explain but
very few of them yield any tangible evidence fewer still
are ever investigated but one thing is strikingly absent from
the small town Museum. The TV shows and online
discussions. Val Johnson when you try to
track the Val Johnson, people, try to track down Bell Johnson,
people tend to say that he's hard to find that he's still
haunted by what happened to him. 36 years ago, a 2013 Pioneer
Press article said, Johnson, Quickly grew tired of interviews
after the incident and is believed to now, lip somewhere
in Wisconsin. Sheriff brakes wife Louise.
So Johnson hasn't kept in touch with his old colleagues in
Marshall County for 30 years. Aside, from a letter, he sent a
few years back with no return address.
As it turns out Johnson isn't that hard to find you loves and
you Claire Wisconsin and he answers his phone.
At the first mention of UFOs. He laughed out loud.
Quote, it's unexplainable and will remain.
So I'm happy with my mental stability Johnson?
Said people can don't call about that anymore, it becomes, and
then it goes on us as it becomes readily apparent, that the
details of the veljohnson incident still, I'm throwing UFO
enthusiasts, just don't Fascinate Johnson, I think he's
just had to move on with his life quote, I looked up at the
sky and said, well Shucks what happened?
Johnson, recalled and then I shuffled on with my life.
He had small kids to race back then, hitting a ball of
lightning up in a ditch. Wasn't close to the most
important thing going on in his life for almost a year.
After the incident, his phone hardly stopped ringing.
His quote at the time by Associated Press writer Barber
Dewey saying, his wife was run ragged and by the constant
calls, he appeared on Good Morning America.
And in dozens of newspapers across the country for a while,
he was a very big deal it says and then other stories came
along and push me off the front page.
He said thank goodness. The state on as Deputy for a
while. After the incident then he took
a job as chief of police and the nearby town of Oslo Minnesota
locals. He said, never questioned his
ability to enforce the law in 1982.
He was hired to set up the row, suit Minnesota, police
department, but lost his job less than a year later over a
funding dispute. Once you're a chief of police
and then you get fired. He said your unhireable, he was
working as a security guard in the Twin Cities, small, when a
friend got him a job answering the customer, Service line at
3M. He asked me how I'd like to
take, 60 angry phone calls a day, you're called.
And I said, dang, I can do that for many years for years.
People sometimes showed up on his front, porch with theories
about his experience in Marshall County and Marshall County.
He says we'd set in the backyard with lemonade and talk.
They tell me what they thought happened to me, and I'd nod at
the appropriate times eventually, they'd go away.
Johnson is now. 71 course, this was what The seven years ago.
So I'm assuming he's still alive, you v78.
He has a short, white beard and thinning.
White hair needs retired still living in you clear with his
wife, rozanne, no one to stop by and years.
No one calls about the UFOs. Even when he's named airs on
television, he has great grandchildren to this day
Johnson won't speculate on what happened in the 1979.
He doesn't think the light he saw was an extraterrestrial but
also won't rule that out as a possibility for years.
He said it just hasn't crossed lost his mind.
He says I saw a ball of light, I drove toward it and suddenly it
was in the car with me it's unexplainable and will remain.
So I'm happy with my mental stability.
If it seems Johnson's ambivalence could cast some
doubt on the famous incident, those passionate about UFOs.
Run faced Clark's hits a textbook UFO encounter coping
mechanism. I'm not sure what else you're
supposed to do. When you see one of these silly
things. I mean, there's no point in
driving yourself crazy over denying that LD of it.
And I think that the way he did it is the way that most people
that are mentally in good health and have good mental skills, to
do, it would react to it, you simply recognize what you saw,
don't drive yourself, mad trying to explain it and go on with
your life. It's all you can do Clark talk
to scores of people involved in UFO.
Encounters for his books. Some became obsessed with what
happened to them? Some plunged into denial others.
He said, Philip Peace refusing to allow an encounter to change
our lives. If anything Clark said, it's a
story to tell at the bar and that's it.
I think it's a little bit more than that.
I think it's a story just to share to our body of knowledge,
about these things because this is our own form of Grassroots
disclosure. We know what happened based on
this eyewitness account. We don't have several pages of a
blacked-out material. It hasn't been classified by the
Deep State and tossed into a file somewhere.
Kept at the, you know, at the document dump of a private
company, it's on the Internet, it's becomes a, it becomes a
shared experience and I think it's helpful just to have it
there and together these all add up.
And at some point we begin to get a clearer picture of what
this whole UFO phenomena is. Now there's one other I can't
hear. I think it's important to look
at as far as these uofl attacks and I think that's a fair
assessment to call these things. Both both these cases, these
UFOs have acted, very aggressive manners, and this is the
Fargo's. Most famous UFO sighting
happened in the skies above Bison.
Football at says, this is from inform.com.
Let me see if I can find the author here real quick by Tracy
Briggs. This is December 15th 2020 and
it's got a nice picture here of this old 1940 site.
Football contest, very nostalgic.
This is Fargo, North Dakota, which is actually kind of on the
border. There with Minnesota, I'm going
to be just a little way south of Warren Minnesota, we just talked
about. So in the same general vicinity
Far, Western Minnesota, Far Eastern, North Dakota, it says
Fargo. It's almost as though Fargo
forum sports editor. Eugene Fitzgerald had a tiny
crystal ball sitting beside his typewriter some Smoke-filled
Newsroom that day in the fall of 1948, when you raise headline
for October, first, aerial display, likely and bison
Augustine game tonight, of course, in this case, aerial
display referred to Fitzgerald's prediction that the game would
feature more passing than rushing says NDSU one.
The night 14:6 hardly a show of aerial dominance nonetheless
Fitzgerald's headline turn out to be a strangely turned out to
be strange, but strangely prophetic, as there was a pretty
spectacular aerial aerial display in the sky that night,
it became the subject of a US Government investigation.
The files of which have only recently been Declassified and
open for the public to see, see, see the difference in what
happens with these UFO encounters.
We had the law enforcement officer, who you immediately
reports that, and it's released to the public.
This disseminated out there for everyone to see.
This case in 1948 involved, a former WWII fighter pilot, so
the the military immediately jumps on the case and classifies
everything. So they keep that information
out of the public domain for decades, and which really
hinders the whole process of crowdsourcing.
These encounters and making them available to the public.
If we go on here, we can see says, It's come to be known as
the Gorman dogfight. And is one of the most
well-known 20th century UFO stories.
It's also one of the most credible considering the man who
claimed to see the Flying Saucer, it wasn't accomplished
WWII pilot and at least three other Witnesses were experienced
aviators. So what we have here is the
classic Mass UFO sighting for witness for years, reports of
what happened that night came from the eyewitnesses and warmed
himself. But now that the files have been
Declassified more details, have emerged, the incident was
featured on the History Channel, show, called Project, Blue Book,
and 2019. Then it says, according to
columnist, Kurt Erikson, who wrote about Gorman in the Forum.
And 2011 Gorman was born, July, 7th, 23 June orbit and Roberta
Gorman. He grew up in Fargo.
Where his father was a Cass County agent during World War
Two Gorman? Became a B25 instructor for
French Aviation students. When the war was over, he
returned to Fargo and was employed as the manager of a
construction company. When the North Dakota Air
National Guard formed at Fargo's, Hector airport.
January 16th. 1947 Gorman. Joined the Squadron as a second
lieutenant. Norman was flying, his P-51
Mustang with other guard pilots in the early evening hours of
October 1st. 1948, part of their flight path was over the old
Dakota Dakota field. Where the North Dakota
agricultural College Bison. Football team played its games
according to North Dakota State University, assistant athletic
director, Ryan para lat Perrault.
The Fill will slightly south of the current Dakota field at
1310. 17th Avenue North Goes on and says, Dakota field at the
time was LE côté was located adjacent to Churchill Hall in
the center of Campus where the Memorial Union and a glen Hill
Center. Now, sit Peril said you said
kickoff was at 8:00 p.m. that Friday night about a half hour
later. Most of the pilots flying
decided to call it a night but Gorman wanted to get in more
flying time. According to a story in the
Fargo forum dated October 3rd, 1948 Gorman.
Was flying near ha field about two and a half.
Half miles from the football field when an air traffic
control, told him about a small Piper Cub in the area.
He acknowledged a smaller plane about 500 feet below but a few
minutes later he spotted something else.
He said it was a flying disc was round with well-defined edges
brilliantly lit and circling slowly over the city.
He asks at our about the object and they said they only saw
Gorman's playing in the Piper Cub, this object was not showing
up. On radar.
Gorman decide investigate but is he got closer to the object it
suddenly got brighter shot away from him he estimated it was
flying around, 250 miles per hour but accelerated to 600
miles an hour, Gorman's playing can only fly about 400 miles an
hour so he lost the object but it came back and it flew right
at him when the object was coming head-on he says I held my
plane pointed right at it. Foreman said the object came so
close that I invite Involuntarily ducked my head
because I thought a crash was inevitable, but the Archie
consumed over my head. So here he is flying to
investigate this Flying Saucer, which he can't catch his kind of
playing this cat and mouse game with him where it flies directly
back at him. Okay.
Now you can say that that's not an actual tact but in a way that
isn't attack, because this thing is acting in a super aggressive
way and what if this pilot would have responded, In the wrong
direction. I mean it could have been like
it was definitely life-threatening the dog fight
lasted, 27 minutes, a lifetime for a UFO.
Encounter is a long time, the Declassified documents included,
diagram Gorman Drew of what went on in the air that night.
It's almost like this thing was just testing him.
Now he has a diagram of his dog fight that happened here.
Shows always Maneuvers what he did pretty detailed And the
extra channels Project Blue Book, you have historian.
Richard Dolan says, the detailed drawing tells us a lot.
It shows you've got it. It shows you got an experienced
seasoned WWII fighter pilot, who is dealing with a light
phenomena that is clearly outperforming his aircraft.
He said Gorman was said to be so shaken.
After the incident that had trouble Landing the plane, he
told the Fargo forum later. It was the weirdest experience
I've had in my life and this guide has some pretty serious.
Audiences as far as that goes, I mean it says was involved in
aerial combat as a fighter pilot.
It says after Gorman told his commanding officer what
happened. The incident was referred to Air
Force intelligence investigators arrived in Fargo on October 4th
and interviewed. The two air traffic controllers
in the tire that night as well as a pilot of the piper Club a
local physician. All of them, corroborated
gourmands account Gorman wrote in a sworn statement that he was
convinced. There was a definitive thought
behind the objects Maneuvers and that the aircraft could go
faster, turn Tighter and climb steeper than his aircraft.
Despite what seems to be evidence to the contrary, the
Air Force concluded, the object, was a combination of looking at
the planet. Jupiter and a weather balloon.
Now think about how condescending that is.
You've got your former fighter pilot until she has this
encounter. This guy's been through World
War Two For Crying Out Loud until she saw a flying saucer
and you tell him know what you actually saw was Jupiter and a
weather balloon. I'm going to say it one more
time. How many weather balloons do we
have floating around up there? And don't we need some sort of a
federal mandate to control weather balloons?
Because if there's that many of these things running loose, Sin
in the atmosphere threatening to have.
You know, cliches with aircraft and we got to do something about
this. According to Ericsson Gorman.
Insisted, it wasn't a weather balloon, but the air material,
command, warned him, not to divulge any further information,
or he would be subject to a court-martial.
So that's your natural inclination to cover things up.
These are the people that so many in the community are
looking for disclosure from that might be one reason, why Gorman
stay pretty quiet, throughout the rest of his military career.
He thinks so which took into bases in Italy and throughout
the u.s. he retired as Lieutenant Colonel and died from
pancreatic cancer and Texas and the early 1980s at the age of
59. So wow.
It says and then it goes on and says according to Reports most
of the dogfight action would have been happening before.
Half-time, just north of the field, the national centers for
environmental information says visibility in Fargo that evening
was 13.1 miles. And there was no record of
precipitation. So, football fans wouldn't have
been instructed by clouds snow or rain.
If what they saw is was often reported from UFO.
Sightings from the same distance away.
The fans might have seen flashes of light, not unlike heat
lightning. They also might have heard, the
sounds of gourmands plane and the object we're saying, might
because at this point, the form hasn't been able to track down
any fans of players, who were there, that night a Facebook
call out yielded. Some reminiscing about the team
of the 1940s. The players are, which would be
at least 90 years old, even if more witnesses from football,
the football, Game where else were elsewhere?
Come forward from that night. It's not likely any kind of
official report would be changed.
However, for what it's worth and astronomer contracted by the Air
Force, to say, to study the Grumman incident to Gorman side,
that this was no weather, balloon something has son backs
up and Project Blue Book. Paul Heidi said my father loved
Air Force pilots because he said, how can the Air Force deny
reports by people that they themselves tray?
Rain. Well of course we know that
doesn't matter to them. Once someone speaks the truth
about these things, they're absolutely going to deny the
truth that that's consider the Gorman.
Instant both these both of these instances are important.
The one from 1979 Warren. And this one from 1948 Fargo and
like I said you could just see the difference and how the
information is either bottled up or disseminated depending upon
on who gets ahold of it first. And this case, you know, where
involve an Air Force pilot, the Deep state was allowed to come
in and just completely encircle. These reports Tamp down e, talk
about it and bury it for 40 or 50 years.
Or longer in the case of the sheriff's, deputy and Minnesota
even though it was still 1979, you can see how one this report
is released publicly immediately, the facture there,
they can be looked at they can be, they can be double checked
and still disseminated for the public at large to see.
So it's it's just the right way of doing things and the wrong
way of doing things. Until next time, this is UFO
morning over. Now,