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Hello and welcome to the program
UFO Warning. 

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In this episode, we're talking 
about the Trumbull County UFO 

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from 1994. 
That's correct, the 1994 

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Trumbull County UFO. 
This occurred in the state of 

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Ohio on December 14th, 1994. 
Residents and police in Trumbull

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County, Ohio reported seeing an 
unidentified flying object in 

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the night sky. 
Residents begin calling 911 

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around midnight, with one caller
describing the object as looking

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like a fighter plane with a 
flame coming out of the back. 

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Police in multiple jurisdictions
reported seeing strange objects 

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and even chased him. 
Sergeant Toby Moluro of the 

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Liberty Township Police 
Department was one of the first 

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to respond, and his conversation
with a police operator was 

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featured on The History Channel 
show UFO Hunters. 

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Now, a National Weather Service 
radar operator described the 

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radar signatures he saw that 
night, saying I've never seen 

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anything moving so fast. 
This sighting remains 

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unexplained to this day. 
Now, there's a lot of cool stuff

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out here about this. 
I found this other article over 

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at 
paranormal-witness.phantom.com. 

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I'll put these over at Kofi, the
links for anybody that's 

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interested. 
Thanks to everybody that 

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supports our program over there 
in Spotify. 

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Also, don't forget to like 
follow it on whatever platform 

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you're listening to. 
Now this article starts says 

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here they have a little summary 
of it. 

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It says subject names Roy Ann 
Rudolph, Toby Malero dozens of 

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residents of trouble of Trumbull
County, Ohio subject location 

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Trumbull County, Ohio 1994 
paranormal experience, mass UFO 

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sighting It's interesting 
describing one of these UFOs as 

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a paranormal experience. 
I could kind of see that. 

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Roy Ann Rudolph was a 911 
operator in Trumbull County, 

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Ohio and suddenly received an 
unusual call. 

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A person called to report what 
he believed was obviously fire 

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coming out of the back of an 
aircraft. 

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Within a few seconds after 
hanging up with him, a mother 

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and daughter called in to report
lights in the sky hanging 

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silently toward the block they 
were at. 

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Even the news media were getting
reports of these unordinary 

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flying lights. 
The calls became too many to be 

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coincidence or prank, so Roy 
Anne requested Officer Toby 

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Melora to go and investigate 
these reports that she and other

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dispatchers were receiving from 
people. 

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Toby drove to the road where the
sightings were going on and soon

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a nervous person walking by 
stopped him in the street, 

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nearly hyperventilating. 
He also showed Toby that there 

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were lights over his house and 
was asking Toby to study them. 

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Roy Ann called the local air 
base to search if they had any 

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reports of this, but there was 
nothing within a 60 mile radius.

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Toby came across some lights in 
the distance, but what he found 

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literally stopped him in his 
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Within 1/4 mile of the lights, 
everything electronic in his 

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vehicle suddenly died, including
the radio and ignition. 

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So Toby was out on a road alone.
Roy Ann kept trying to call 

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Toby, but there was no response 
from him. 

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She proceeded to direct a couple
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sudden silence. 
Toby, however, was face to face 

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with the light. 
He could identify a structure 

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behind the light, but the light 
was so bright he couldn't see 

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anything clearly. 
It appeared to be the size of a 

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football field and hovered 
silently over the trees. 

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While he stood there, it began 
to move away. 

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Nothing below this light was 
affected. 

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Toby went back as his car 
suddenly began to run and Roy 

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Ann continued calling him over 
the radio. 

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He reported back in but needed 
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The radios began going nuts with
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in the county reporting 
sightings. 

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Reports were coming in from 
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Using the radio reports, Toby 
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jumped back in his car and 
headed off. 

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An officer in Brookfield climbed
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and got some very good visuals. 
He was praying it was just an 

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airplane. 
Roy Anne called the air base 

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again. 
There was nothing on radar 

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within 60 miles of the 
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Roy Anne coaxed an officer to 
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She was amazed she couldn't hear
it and it wasn't moving, but his

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presence was massive. 
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were examining it, the object 
suddenly disappeared. 

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Wow, that's a really cool little
excerpt. 

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They're kind of showing the 
reaction and the experience of 

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the dispatcher. 
Let's go ahead and take a look 

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at another article talking about
this very strange mass sighting 

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there in Trumbull County, Ohio 
back in 1994. 

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Now talking about this Trumbull 
County UFO sighting back in 1994

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I found this article on it's 
astoria.com titled Trumbull 

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County UFO. 
It says a series of unusual 

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events unfolded on December 
14th, 1994 in Trumbull County, 

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Ohio. 
Just after midnight on a late 

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fall night. 
A series of calls was received 

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by 911 operators. 
These reports all involved one 

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thing, reports of low flying 
UFOs. 

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The majority of these calls were
heard by dispatcher Roy Ann 

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Rudolph. 
Reports mostly related a fairly 

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fast moving unknown object slash
lights that seem to be 

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descending naturally at 1st 911 
operators thought the callers 

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were seeing a balloon, plane, 
helicopter or other everyday 

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object, but because of the 
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Rudolf decided to notify the 
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The 1st Police Unit contacted 
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probably nothing to worry about 
and that a plane was probably 

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flying low. 
Sergeant Toby Meloro was the 

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first officer on the scene as he
proceeded down Sampson Drive to 

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check out the lights. 
He was informed by a man on the 

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street that the lights were 
moving South. 

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As Meloro continued southernly 
on Sampson Drive, suddenly his 

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cruiser went dead. 
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vehicle, it was engulfed by a 
bright light from above. 

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Startled and frightened, he 
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outside, looking up at a giant 
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intensely bright in the center 
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After about 30 seconds, the 
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One of the most striking things 
about Molaro's sighting was that

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he heard not a sound from the 
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After the object moved out of 
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functions returned to normal. 
Trying to understand what he had

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just seen, he took off in 
pursuit of the UFO. 

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Melara was unable to keep pace 
with the UFO. 

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He called dispatch informing 
them what he had seen and gave 

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the object's direction of 
flight. 

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Soon this information was 
related to all active law 

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enforcement units in the area, 
and reports of the object's 

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direction were used to 
triangulate the object and 

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enable units to move to its 
location. 

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Dispatcher Rudolph later stated 
that at least 14 to 15 officers 

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had seen the UFO. 
Their reports of the object and 

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its movements were openly 
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police radio. 
Police dispatched with reports 

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of the UFO spreading to adjacent
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FAA control tower and asked if 
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their radar. 
Control Tower stated that they 

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had nothing unusual on their 
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diameter around Youngstown. 
Researcher Kenny Young did an in

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depth study of the Trumbull 
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His request for Freedom of 
Information Act documents 

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regarding the case was denied. 
Denied. 

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Why would you deny it? 
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if UFOs aren't real, then 
wouldn't the FOIA request for 

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these documents show that he 
interviewed officers involved in

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the case and was confident that 
they were telling the truth? 

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Yet why would all these police 
conspire together to lie about a

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UFO? 
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Brookfield Township Police 
Department was one of the 

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officers monitoring the 
fantastic calls and decided to 

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have a look for himself. 
He climbed up an abandoned radar

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tower in the area to get an 
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As he reached the top of the 
tower, he was shocked at what he

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saw, not one but three UFOs. 
The three objects were in a 

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triangle pattern with the middle
object slightly higher than the 

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two on the side. 
Also, Baker stated that the 

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object changed colors in unison,
red, yellow, blue, and green. 

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He reported his offer his 
observation to the other 

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patrolman on duty. 
Astronomers have tried to 

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explain the sighting as simple 
stars that appear low in the sky

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and appear to change colors. 
Yeah, because that happens all 

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the time. 
Of course, this does not explain

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the malfunction of police 
vehicles, lights engulfing them 

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or objects moving across the 
landscape being chased by 

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policemen. 
Some have theorized that the 

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object seen by the policemen of 
Trumbull County was a top secret

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craft from the Youngstown Air 
Reserve base. 

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However, Captain John Keita from
the base stated that there were 

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no planes, experimental or 
otherwise, flying that night. 

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The policemen of Ohio have 
spoken often about what they saw

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on December 14th, 1994. 
Police cars that inexplicably 

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stalled, light beams engulfing 
their vehicles, one or more 

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structured craft of a nature 
never seen before since the 1994

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sightings of Trumbull County 
have never been adequately 

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explained by conventional flying
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And that is a really good 
article written by, I think it 

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says here, BJ Booth, if 
everybody could write this 

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clearly and condense the story 
and put the facts out there like

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this guy did, man, that would be
great. 

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That was a very fine piece of an
article there. 

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Thank you very much for posting 
that. 

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Let's take a look at another one
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This is really, I think, a 
fantastic mass sighting with 

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multiple law enforcement 
officers, and it just doesn't, I

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think, get the publicity and 
it's not out there in the way 

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that it should be. 
Let's take a look at another 

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article here. 
This article I think brings kind

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of a different perspective to 
this whole sighting. 

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It looks like A blog. 
It's militarybruce.com. 

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I'll have the links at Kofi. 
Some of these kind of articles 

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and sites that are a little bit 
off the beaten path that can 

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really bring some interesting 
insight to this. 

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Articles by a gentleman named 
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Title says Watcher in the Sky. 
Was the abandoned Brookfield Air

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Force Station the site of a UFO 
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And it's articles dated October 
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It says down at the end of a 
closed Rd. a series of ghostly 

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looking empty buildings set 
silently crumbling and slowly 

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being consumed by the elements 
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This collection of buildings 
once played an important role in

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the defense of North America. 
Formerly known as Brookfield Air

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Force Station, the US Air Force 
established it as a general 

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surveillance radar station in 
April 1952. 

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Brookfield AFS was one of 
several radar stations across 

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America that were established in
the early 1950s by Air Defense 

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Command, renamed Aerospace 
Defense Command in 1958. 

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Think about that thinking about 
Aerospace Clear back in 1958 as 

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an early warning direction 
system against an attack by 

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Soviet bombers. 
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1994, long after Brookfield AFS 
had closed and its radars 

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dismantled, there was an alleged
UFO sighting near the abandoned 

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radar station in Canada. 3 early
warning radar lines were 

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established, the Pine Tree Line,
the Mid Canada Line, and the 

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Distant Early Warning Line, some
of which were manned initially 

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by US Air Force personnel before
being turned over to the Royal 

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Canadian Air Force. 
Information at all stations was 

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relayed to the North American 
Air Defense Command NORAD 

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headquarters at the Cheyenne 
Mountain Complex in Colorado and

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RCAF Station North Bay in 
Canada. 

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Initially, the station 
functioned as a ground control, 

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intercept, and warning station. 
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and Warning Squadron, 662 AC and
WS would guide interceptor 

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aircraft toward identify 
intruders picked up on the 

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units, an FPS and an FPS 5 
radars that monitors the skies. 

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As a radar station, Brookfield 
AFS had a brief life. 

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Due to defense budget 
reductions, the US Air Force 

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decided to transfer 66 two AC 
and WS to Oakdale AFS in 

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Pennsylvania and reduce 
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including their ground air 
transmitter receiver site to gap

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filler radar site for Oakdale. 
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radar sites situated between 
each of the main stations was to

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fill in holes and coverage areas
and detect any aircraft that 

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were flying too low for 
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Most of them were unmanned with 
technicians attending 

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occasionally for routine 
maintenance. 

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Thus, Brookfield AFS closed on 
November 1st, 1959 with the 

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small section fenced off for a 
small gap filler radar tower and

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control building. 
The remainder of the property 

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was turned over to Trumbull 
County, who established the 

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Trumbull County Nursing Home 
facility using the former Air 

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Force buildings. 
So that gives you, I think a 

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much more complete idea of 
what's happening. 

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Some of these articles talk 
about an Air Force Base there. 

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Well, it was what was leftover 
of an Air Force Base. 

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This is kind of a smaller radar 
installation. 

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And now you can see why the FOIA
requests were denied. 

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They didn't want people. 
They probably didn't want the 

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Russians or the Chinese knowing 
the capability of the radar, 

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that they could just pick up 
everything through there. 

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And they also may not have 
wanted the public to know about 

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these three very large UFOs 
traveling through that area. 

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So what? 
Where these UFOs were sighted at

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was over a former Air Force 
Base. 

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The gap filler radar remained in
operation until June 1968 when 

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it was shut down. 
Brookfield's Gator site remained

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in operation until the early 
1980s, and then it was closed 

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and the site abandoned. 
OK, wow. 

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So maybe there was nothing 
there. 

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Around this time, the nursing 
home also closed. 

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With no tenants to take over the
buildings, they were left 

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vacant. 
Their property was used 

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occasionally for police training
exercises. 

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Oh my goodness, it's got some 
pictures here. 

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It does look derelict. 
Gozlana says. 

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The UFO sighting of 1994. 
On December 14th, 1994, at 

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around midnight, the Trumbull 
County 911 Center logged several

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UFO reports from residents near 
the Sampson Rd. vicinity in 

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Youngstown, southwest of 
Brookfield. 

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Two weeks earlier, UFOs had also
been reported in the area. 

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So this was a regular UFO wave. 
A low flying object was seen and

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tracked by numerous police 
departments over a wide area, 

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including Brookfield Police 
Department in Brookfield 

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Township. 1 Brookfield Police 
officer reported that he climbed

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atop the old Gap Filler Radio 
radar tower at the former 

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Brookfield AFS to get a better 
view of the alleged UFO. 

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Now that makes sense. 
See, nobody else talked about 

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any any of these articles, but 
this blog writer here points out

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that the radio tower that this 
cop has reportedly had climbed 

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to to to view the UFOs was 
actually a tower that was used 

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at the former AFS. 
This old Air Force Base there, 

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which is now abandoned. 
Not even there. 

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So maybe these UFOs are just 
flying over to check out if it's

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still there, who knows. 
In the end, there was no 

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official confirmation of what 
was actually spotted in the sky 

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that night. 
It wasn't the first time there 

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were unconfirmed UFO sightings 
in this part of Ohio. 

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That's interesting. 
And one such incident happened 

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on 17th of April 1966 when 2 
sheriff's deputies, Dale Spauer 

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and Wilbur L Neff, were advised 
by the Portage County Dispatch 

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Center to investigate a low 
flying UFO reportedly headed in 

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their direction. 
At one point, the two deputies 

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were traveling along Route 14 at
90 mph, chasing the lights in 

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the sky. 
Spire reported to his dispatcher

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of the object they were chasing.
Quote It's about 50 feet across,

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and I could just make out a Dome
or something on the top, but 

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that's very dark. 
The bottom is real bright. 

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It's putting out a beam of light
that makes a big spot 

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underneath. 
It was overhead a minute ago and

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it was bright as day here. 
There you go, This thing's 

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flying overhead. 
It's putting out this very 

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intense bright light 
illuminating the people 

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underneath. 
This is almost 30 years before 

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the 94 sighting. 
Others who reported seeing a UFO

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that night were Wayne Houston of
East Palestine Police 

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Department. 
Boy, that sounds familiar, 

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doesn't it? 
Is it Palestine or Palestine? 

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Isn't it where that train 
derailed at? 

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And Police Chief Gerald Butchert
of Mantua Village Police 

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Department, who also took photos
of the alleged UFO photographs. 

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Chief Butcher stated that the 
United States Air Force Base 

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told him not to make public. 
Oh, excuse me. 

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So they took pictures, but they 
were told by the fellows at the 

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at the Air Force Base up there 
not to make them public. 

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Wow. 
Nothing conclusive was ever 

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found. 
And despite photographs that 

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were taken by various people of 
this alleged UFO, the official 

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Air Force conclusion was that 
Spower and others had been 

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chasing the planet Venus. 
Yeah, because Venus has got a 

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Dome on top, right? 
Deputy Spower would later advise

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investigate a reporter that the 
that the alleged UFO he and 

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Deputy Neff had been chasing 
that night ruined his life and 

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career. 
Well, classic deep personing of 

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these guys. 
Several months after that 

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fateful night, now former Deputy
Spower was working as a painter,

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divorced from his wife and 
living in poverty and a shabby 

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motel. 
If I could change all that I 

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have done in my life, he said, I
would change that night. 

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We chased that damn saucer. 
Wow. 

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Today the former Brookfield AFS 
has abandoned and says with 

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buildings in a severe state of 
decay. 

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Most of the buildings remain, 
but the radar towers are long 

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gone, leaving only the 
foundations of at least one of 

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them. 
Roofs and floors are collapsing,

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the the concrete is 
deteriorating, and the buildings

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are slowly being overtaken by 
vegetation. 

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In September of 2012, the 
property was sold to a private 

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entity. 
It is patrolled by the police 

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and is not open to the public. 
The owners are not friendly to 

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trespassers. 
A radio transmitter for WTNX is 

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the only thing still active on 
the property. 

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No future plans for the use of 
the property have been 

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announced. 
He's got a bunch of pictures 

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here. 
Yeah, what a dilapidated mess. 

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Just think of all your tax 
dollars that were wasted on 

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that. 
Excellent, excellent article. 

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Very appreciative for Bruce 
Forsythe for posting that. 

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Let's take a look at one more 
and kind of wrap this up. 

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It always amazes me how these 
sightings, you know, you read 

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the headlines, you think OK, 
it's a one off thing, but they 

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always seem to be tied into 
something else or a lot of times

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they are. 
This as a sighting seems like an

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area that has been visited many 
times and you have at least 2 

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cases in 1966 and 1994 where law
enforcement have observed the 

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craft pictures were taken in 66,
but still we're told nothing to 

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see. 
Move along. 

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Let's go ahead and take a look 
at this next article. 

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I just wanted to throw this last
article in. 

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It's food for thought. 
Now remember this Trumbull 

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County UFO, December 14th, 1994.
And then of course, we had the 

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earlier sighting in 1966, and it
sounds like kind of general 

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stuff going on there in between.
Well, remember there's a pretty 

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famous case out of Michigan that
happened back March 8th, 1994. 

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So Michigan 1994 in March. 
And then Ohio, I don't know, 

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maybe what, 100 and 5200 miles 
away, maybe less later on in the

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same year, December 1994. 
A lot of similarities here I 

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think. 
This article is from woodtv.com,

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written by Henry Erb. 
Title says UFO report, 

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Vindication for man who tracked 
1994 sighting on radar. 

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This is one that we have done 
before in the podcast at pretty 

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in depth a couple times. 
You can go back and take a look 

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if you like it, says Grand 
Rapids, MI. 

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Jack Bouchong was sure he was 
going to lose his job. 

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It was the night of March 8th, 
1994. 

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Working at the National Weather 
Service, Bushong Radar was 

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lighting up with stuff he'd 
never seen before. 

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He was on the phone with an 
Ottawa County emergency 

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dispatcher who was looking for 
help identifying lights in the 

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sky over Holland. 
Holland is in South Central 

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Michigan. 
There, the dispatcher was 

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getting a lot of calls. 
Police officers were calling in,

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too. 
When Bushong found out his phone

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call had been recorded. 
Bushong said he was really 

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scared and lost sleep over it. 
He fretted about what people 

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were going to say about what he 
was seeing on his screen. 

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Just that people think you're a 
kooky, said. 

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Or that you're lying or not 
credible. 

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I'm supposed to be a scientist 
and a skeptic. 

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Bushong was seeing images on his
radar that corresponded to what 

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people were calling in from the 
ground. 

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He had to control his radar by 
hand to 0 in on the sky South of

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his station in Muskegon. 
Oh my, what is that? 

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The recorded dispatch call 
captured him saying in a 

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startled voice. 
Once he had zeroed in, he said 

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he went through his mental 
checklist about all the weather 

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phenomena and technical glitches
he knew about, and what he was 

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seeing didn't fit any of them. 
He saw what appeared to be solid

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objects coming together and 
coming apart, moving about 20 

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miles in each jump, he recalled 
they were hovering, then 

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jumping, hovering and jumping. 
After watching them for a while,

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they appeared to be forming a 
wide triangle that moved out 

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over the lake, he said. 
They look solid. 

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Despite his worry about losing 
his job, Bouchon went on to a 

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promotion and a move to a bigger
weather station, a forecasting 

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and warden, and eventually 
retirement. 

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He said the NWS treated him 
well, even though some 

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individuals criticized him and 
dismissed what he saw. 

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So he clammed up about it. 
I kept my mouth shut, and I 

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learned that pretty quickly. 
He said he wasn't the only one. 

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There has been considerable 
national reporting about pilots 

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and other credible seeming 
people deciding it's better to 

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keep quiet about such sightings.
The long time government 

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approach may have contributed to
that. 

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It dismissed UFO sightings as 
common stuff people just weren't

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seeing right. 
After a number of sightings in 

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Michigan in the 1960s, then US 
Representative Gerald R Ford of 

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Grand Rapids wrote a letter 
calling for congressional 

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investigations and demanding the
government stop misleading the 

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public. 
It took more than 50 years and 

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efforts by later members of 
Congress who demanded the 

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intelligence community produce a
report and make it public. 

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That happened this summer. 
In the report, the government 

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admits that people have seen 
things that nobody can explain. 

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It even released video by U.S. 
military pilots. 

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For Bhushan, the release of the 
report was like ringing a bell. 

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It got him talking again. 
It has everything to do with it.

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He said he's now thinking about 
writing a scientific paper about

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what he saw on the Lakeshore in 
1994. 

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He said what he saw on radar 
looks a lot like what military 

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pilots have reported seeing. 
I guess I've been waiting for 

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this medication, he said. 
Which I didn't think I was going

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to get all my life. 
He was going to just let what he

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saw die out. 
But now with the basically 

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military coming out and saying 
the same thing I saw 30 years 

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ago, I can finally say to 
people, I told you so. 

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Bouchon said the 1994 sighting 
had a lasting impact on others 

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who saw it, among them Holly 
Graves and her family. 

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They were among the 911 callers 
watching slowly rotating lights 

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from their from their front 
yard. 

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It was like Christmas lights. 
She recalled. 

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The incident on the Lakeshore 
got a lot of media attention. 

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Graves said some people were 
interested in what she saw, but 

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others were hurtful. 
She kept her kids out of school 

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for a while. 
They just went through a really 

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hard time, she said. 
They know what they saw, but 

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it's like everybody still 
laughed at them. 

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People forget that EU in UFO 
stands for unidentified, meaning

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Nobody knows what the phenomena 
are. 

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That's never stopped people from
speculating. 

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Sometimes they chew sides and 
even get nasty. 

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They accused us of being in the 
backyard, smoking, smoking weed,

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doing drugs with our kids, 
Graves said. 

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Man, how her now adult children 
don't want to talk about the 

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sighting. 
It's different for Graves. 

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I'm glad my family got to see 
it, she said. 

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I really am. 
It's like once in a lifetime. 

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It's an experience I'll take to 
my grave with me. 

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Nearly 30 years later, it still 
moves her. 

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I wish everybody to see it, she 
said. 

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I do. 
I wish everybody would see it 

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because it was the experience of
a lifetime. 

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Very cool. 
You have these similar 

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sightings. 
First, the ones here in Michigan

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that we've talked about before, 
and then just look at that just 

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a few months later in December, 
you have these mass sightings 

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occurring over Trumbull County, 
Ohio, which may or may not be 

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connected with this abandoned 
Air Force Base there. 

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Really interesting stuff. 
What I like about these old 

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sightings and these old 
accounts. 

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It does seem like there's kind 
of a pattern that emerges of 

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these things not only just 
showing up, but maybe showing up

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and doing a little Recon on us. 
Until next time, this is UFO 

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warning over and out.
