1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,320 Hello and welcome to the program UFO Warning. 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,800 In this episode, we're looking at the Berkshire UFO incident. 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,960 That's correct, the Berkshire UFO incident. 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,760 Now the Labor Day 1969 UFO incident took place on the night 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:21,320 of September 1st, 1969 in Berkshire County, Massachusetts. 6 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:26,560 There are over 250 individuals claimed to have witnessed a UFO. 7 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:31,280 As per the accounts from UFO Park Enthusiast Now, the event 8 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,800 has been characterized as a significantly historic and true 9 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,240 event by the Great Barrington Historical Society and 10 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,880 Massachusetts historians. However, local historians and 11 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,280 journalists have expressed skepticism, noting the absence 12 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,280 of tangible records of any reports made to police or media 13 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,800 at that time. It seems like you could have 250 14 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:56,480 people reported, or you could have 250,000 people report it, 15 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,880 but no matter what, you're going to have non believers regarding 16 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,400 the terminology used to describe the incident. 17 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:06,240 Those directly involved, particularly those who said they 18 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,640 had been pulled up into the UFO dispute, the characterization of 19 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,560 it as an abduction. Now they clarify that the term 20 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,320 abduction has not been used to describe your encounters, 21 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,840 distinguishing their experience from other notable UFO sightings 22 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,760 in the United States. One notable count from the 23 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,600 incident that allegedly occurred in Sheffield near the Old Cover 24 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,840 Bridge, Thomas Reed and his family reported seeing a disc 25 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,280 shaped object hovering in the air as they cross the bridge. 26 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:38,000 Reed described the craft as a white orb larger than a football 27 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,680 field. Attempting to evade the UFO by 28 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,920 driving down the covered Bridge lane proved unsuccessful as the 29 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,400 craft reportedly followed them. Reed claims the car was engulfed 30 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,320 in light as they were drawn into the UFO. 31 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,080 A subsequent polygraph test reportedly indicated reached 32 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:59,200 truthfulness at 99.1%. I find that a little bit 33 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,560 impressive. Another reported incident 34 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,240 transpired at Lake Mansfield in Great Barrington involving 35 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,480 Melanie Kirchdorfer and her family. 36 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,199 A bright light enveloped their cars. 37 00:02:10,199 --> 00:02:13,440 Melanie's father reversed into the parking lot, causing panic 38 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,280 among the occupants. Despite pleas from Melanie, her 39 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,760 father pursued the light. Melanie recalls levitating and 40 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,520 finding herself on a ship where she was laid out. 41 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,400 Witness Tom Warner corroborated seeing Melanie on the ship, 42 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,200 describing a sense of fear on her face. 43 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,840 Melanie, however, did not recall seeing him. 44 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,560 She mentioned being in a room with other children who were 45 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,920 subsequently disappeared, and she woke up alone at the lake, 46 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,720 having to walk home. Simultaneously, Tom remembered 47 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,640 being laid down on his back at the other end of his family's 48 00:02:45,640 --> 00:02:48,920 property. In 2015, a park was established 49 00:02:48,920 --> 00:02:51,840 on the banks of the Husatonic River in Sheffield to 50 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,360 commemorate Tom Reed's reported Offworld incident. 51 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,280 A 5000 LB. Granite monument wasn't usually 52 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:02,200 placed in the park, later replaced in 2019 by a sign 53 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,960 conferring a Governor citation to recognize the Offworld 54 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,000 incident. On September 1st, 1969, the 55 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,640 Sitanish and erroneously bore the signature of then Governor 56 00:03:13,640 --> 00:03:17,240 Charlie Baker, attributed to a request made by Reed to the 57 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,960 Governor's staff. The records of the event are 58 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,800 officially part of the Great Barrington, Massachusetts 59 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,760 Historical Society's collection, marking its acknowledgement in 60 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,280 Massachusetts history. Now, I tell you, it was 61 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,160 important for some people to get this stuff just kind of 62 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:37,280 documented at an official level, which is interesting because it 63 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,320 makes sure the story keeps getting told. 64 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,640 But it was funny to me how angry that made some people. 65 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:48,080 It really got they really got they really got put off by that, 66 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,320 that the government was involved in recognizing this thing had 67 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,680 even been reported. Now before we get to this most 68 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,560 recent article, I want to look at this here article that came 69 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:01,280 out back in July 2020 written by Rafaela Saracelia. 70 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:05,120 I think it says it's from 9news.com dot AU. 71 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,120 I'll try to post these at the Buy me Coffee website if I can 72 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:12,880 get hooked up there and also the coko-phi.com site. 73 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:14,960 You can support the program even one of those places or on 74 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,040 Spotify. I really appreciate it. 75 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,360 I also encourage you to hit the like follow subscribe button, 76 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:21,959 doesn't cost anything. It helps. 77 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,520 And lastly, I just want to say thanks to the people that not 78 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,120 only supported the program, but I want to say thanks to the 79 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,280 folks that leave all the really cool comments over there at 80 00:04:29,280 --> 00:04:31,320 Spotify. It's it's nice to hear from 81 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,160 people, and it's nice to hear from people as we go on this 82 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,200 journey together to try to come up with some sort of Crowdsource 83 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,360 disclosure. Now, this article here, of 84 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,680 course is about 3 1/2 four years old now, but it says as a 85 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:47,200 family, as AUS family, We're driving home on a still warm 86 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,480 evening 50 years ago. They had no idea their lives 87 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:51,880 were about to be changed forever. 88 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,000 On September 1st, 1969, the Reed family claimed they had an 89 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,760 encounter with an unidentified flying object as they took a 90 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,680 shortcut home from the Sheffield Bridge in Massachusetts around 91 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,880 8:30 PM Tom Reed, who was nine at the time, still remembers 92 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,360 what he saw in vivid detail. It's got a pretty good map here 93 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:12,920 showing exactly where the thing was at. 94 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,120 His mother, Nancy Reed, was driving and his grandmother was 95 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,160 in the passenger seathetold9news.com dot AU. 96 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,320 Next to him was his younger brother, Matthew. 97 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,400 The pair had been sharing lollies, lollipops. 98 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,320 There was light coming through the bottom boards of the bridge, 99 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,680 he said. As we left the bridge and came 100 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,800 out the other side we saw what looked like a self-contained 101 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:38,040 sphere of white light and as it rose up, maybe two stories, 102 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,000 there was some rods of light. They fired several thin 103 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:46,120 directional laser like poles of light from one side to the 104 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,720 other. The light then retracted into it 105 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,280 and the sphere slowly moved around the line of trees going 106 00:05:52,280 --> 00:05:55,400 in the same direction we were. My brother then happened to 107 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:59,720 notice a second round sphere off to the right of the car, but 108 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,720 looked like it was sitting underwater. 109 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,400 At that point everything felt odd to us. 110 00:06:04,840 --> 00:06:08,640 It was almost like being pulled, it was almost like being 111 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,120 underwater as the car slowed, you know the tapping sound you 112 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:16,160 get from being in a pool, Like the sound was stones tapping 113 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,080 under the Fender of the car, Mr. Reed said. 114 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,920 Everything then became still and quiet and that's when the family 115 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,920 claims they saw it. A turtle shaped disk hovering 116 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,600 over the fields through their left. 117 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,760 So maybe what they saw was some kind of a probe, you know, that 118 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,960 was associated with this craft. As an illustration of this kind 119 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,680 of turtle shaped craft, kind of brown and Gray and white, really 120 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,480 cool looking, the three objects, the two spheres of light and a 121 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:48,280 shell, made a triangle with the Reed's car bang in the middle of 122 00:06:48,280 --> 00:06:50,400 it. The car suddenly exploded with 123 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,280 light, Mr. Reed said. Almost like floodlights have 124 00:06:53,280 --> 00:06:56,680 been shown on it, he explained to 9news.com dot AU. 125 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,040 Everything was illuminated in glaring detail. 126 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,760 A cacophony of noise erupted as crickets and frogs burst into 127 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,480 frantic activity on the banks of the Husatonic River. 128 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,960 That was the last thing Mr. Reed and his family remember. 129 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,520 For three hours, Bart vague visions of what resembled an 130 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:19,120 airplane hangar, describing it as a large, open area that was 131 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,320 much larger than the craft was itself. 132 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:26,480 When the family finally came to Nancy, Reed and her mother had 133 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,960 mysteriously switched positions in the car. 134 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:33,400 The car ignition was off and the lights were off, Mr. Reed said. 135 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,400 This is just like we've heard about happening out there. 136 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:40,080 And was it Montana, South Dakota, with a family, you know, 137 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,360 driving along the highway? Next thing you know, they're 138 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,120 back in the car, but they're not in the right places. 139 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,920 A community fractured and faith loss, it says. 140 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,760 That night across Berkshire County, about 40 residents from 141 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,760 multiple towns reported seeing a UFO, but instead of bringing the 142 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:56,640 community together, it tore it apart. 143 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,960 The sightings are the focus of an episode of Netflix's new 144 00:07:59,960 --> 00:08:03,280 series Unsolved Mysteries, which details the encounters of Tommy 145 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,360 Warner, Melanie Kirstorfer, Jane Green, and the Reed family. 146 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:11,080 Of course, this is from 2020 mysterytold9news.com AU. 147 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,400 He never felt like he belonged in the small town the family 148 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,080 came from, New York City. Mr. Reed was the most vocal of 149 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,200 the family after the encounter and claimed he had seen UFOs 150 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,280 several times in Sheffield. Throughout the 1960s. 151 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,880 The 9 year old city experienced rampant bullying. 152 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,400 For speaking about his experience, we could imagine 153 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,600 1969. This kid probably was tormented, 154 00:08:32,159 --> 00:08:33,200 Got a picture of the bridge here. 155 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,080 Pretty cool looking. His family was also rashed and 156 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,480 at one point Mr. Reed said they were regularly followed by a 157 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,159 white pickup truck. There were a lot of fights, he 158 00:08:41,159 --> 00:08:43,799 said. The cops had to eat in our diner 159 00:08:43,799 --> 00:08:46,320 to keep the pace. They divided the community. 160 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,440 We went through a lot. There was a lot of struggles. 161 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,200 The pain and hardship came from some of the locals. 162 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,840 What I saw changed my life. I used to be an altar boy. 163 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,240 I don't have my faith anymore. It's gone. 164 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:02,560 You start to think, why are we here and what all this means. 165 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,200 Less than a year after the encounter of Mr., Reed's mother 166 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,000 sold the family diner, The Village on the Green and 167 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,840 relocated the family to Great Barrington, MA. 168 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,160 In February 2015, the Great Barrington Historical Society 169 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,800 and Museum confirmed the Reed sighting and officially inducted 170 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:24,200 the case into U.S. history. And doing so, Mr. Reed, who had 171 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:28,280 set a polygraph and passed, was finally vindicated and has a 172 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,480 little right up here. They did for him kind of 173 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,760 interesting. The concrete monument was 174 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,160 erected outside their bridge to commemorate their sighting. 175 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,240 Mr. Reed now manages the Tom Reed UFO Monument Park. 176 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,240 It's a feat he couldn't do without the support sponsors, 177 00:09:42,560 --> 00:09:44,800 something he's extremely grateful for. 178 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,720 Mr. Reed still doesn't know what his family saw that night, but 179 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,680 he has his theories and do. I think there was an awful 180 00:09:52,680 --> 00:09:55,560 presence that caused us to be removed, to be removed from the 181 00:09:55,560 --> 00:10:00,880 car, Absolutely, 100%, he said. I can tell you I saw something 182 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,080 extraordinary and we were surrounded. 183 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,800 The spheres were certainly working in conjunction with the 184 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,680 craft and both of these spheres were over water. 185 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,320 Do I think there was also a military or governmental aspect 186 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,280 also involved? More than likely. 187 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,400 At the end of the day, do aliens know how to shut our car off? 188 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:23,360 However, Mr. Reed said he's open to the fact that there could be 189 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:27,400 an environmental explanation. The magnesium that was mined for 190 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,320 the atom bomb in World War 2 was mined 3 miles from our 191 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,560 restaurant over in Connecticut, he said. 192 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:34,920 There was also a lot of military. 193 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,960 We also had Command Aerospace, the Electric Boat, which made 194 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,640 the nuclear submarines for General Electric. 195 00:10:40,560 --> 00:10:43,280 You had some of the most polluted water in the entire 196 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,880 country. And the Husatonic River, it's so 197 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:47,480 bad you can't eat fish out of it. 198 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:49,880 There's toxic waste in that waterway. 199 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,640 Who knows what happened? Well, that might be a little bit 200 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,680 of normalcy bias there. It sounds like this guy did have 201 00:10:56,680 --> 00:11:00,240 an experience and he doesn't want to call it an abduction, 202 00:11:00,680 --> 00:11:04,720 but certainly was taken aboard at a spaceship. 203 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,920 Sounds like and it sounds like. Also they weren't signing off on 204 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,200 any releases. Now here's a more recent 205 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:12,720 article. We'll finish up with this. 206 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:16,040 This is from December 15th, 2023. 207 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,960 This is nepm.org. That's New England 208 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,720 publicmedia.org. Revisiting an alleged alien 209 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,480 sighting in a Western Mass as UFO talk spreads to Congress. 210 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:33,560 Election and says this is by Caitlin Reardon has a picture of 211 00:11:33,560 --> 00:11:37,760 this Tom Warner Here it says Tom Warner of Great Barrington, MA 212 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,720 claims he was taken at this spot in between his and his 213 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,760 neighbor's yard. The conversation of 214 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,920 extraterrestrial life has long had a spotlight in science 215 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,960 fiction movies and music, but in recent months it's been bumped 216 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,920 forward toward the front of political discussion. 217 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,680 This summer, former New Jersey Governor Chris Christie was 218 00:11:58,680 --> 00:12:02,000 asked at a Republican presidential debate what he 219 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,680 would do about citing some unidentified flying objects. 220 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,280 I get the UFO question question, he replied to laughter. 221 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,720 Come on, man. Yes, come on, man. 222 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:15,880 UFOs are now actually called UAPS, Unidentified Anomalous 223 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:19,800 Phenomena, according to NASA, or Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, 224 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:24,040 according to some dictionaries. Just whatever number, whatever 225 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,480 name, whatever acronym they want to put on it. 226 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,960 A summer Congressional hearing saw testimony from US from 227 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,360 former U.S. intelligence officer David Gresh, who claimed the 228 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,280 government is possession of UA PS. 229 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:41,120 Former Navy pilot Ryan Graves and Navy Commander David Flavor 230 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:45,360 also testified, both alleging they witnessed UA PS in action 231 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,760 on multiple occasions. Although the debate over alien 232 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,000 life may seem to have reached a new heights this year, Western 233 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,760 Massachusetts has had a connection to the matter for 234 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,360 quite some time. The night of September 1st, 235 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:02,280 1969, it was just like any other summer evening. 236 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,840 Until it wasn't, according to Tom Warner of Great Barrington, 237 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,440 now 64 years old. Warner claims he was abducted by 238 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,520 a large hovering Oval object when he was 10. 239 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,080 Now, I'm just going to tell you, this tells me that the reporting 240 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,080 here is a little shoddy because these people have said 241 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,200 repeatedly that they do not think that they were abducted. 242 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:23,680 They don't. They don't think of as an 243 00:13:23,680 --> 00:13:26,160 abduction. I guess this is just kind of one 244 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,800 of those invites on board a spaceship where you just go on 245 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,880 board without being invited. But it's important. 246 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,240 I mean, they're telling their story and I really believe that 247 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,440 the person writing this should take the time to respect how 248 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,200 these people feel about it. They should respect how the 249 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,760 experiencer feels about it. If the experiencer feels like it 250 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,640 was an abduction, then it was an abduction for that person. 251 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,760 If the experiencer feels like it was just this thing that 252 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:55,000 happened and it was some sort of contact they made, then it 253 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,640 should be described maybe then as a contact but not as an 254 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,720 abduction. It's important now. 255 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,320 It goes on and says. Warner said he was calling and 256 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,680 listening to music at his next door neighbor's house when a 257 00:14:07,680 --> 00:14:09,720 voice spoke to him out of nowhere. 258 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,280 You have to go home, he said. The voice told him. 259 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,720 Warner followed the voices order he said and ran outside. 260 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,760 Something felt off. The September crickets. 261 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,520 The Katy is all the sounds just vanished, he said. 262 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,680 And that's what made me clue what's wrong. 263 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,720 Warner felt as though he was spreading to his house at full 264 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:33,240 speed, but he claims he was actually running a place stuck 265 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,080 inside a beam, shooting out from the sky. 266 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,160 Something told me, look over your shoulder and boom, it's 267 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,160 right there, he said. Right about this exact spot, 268 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,400 about 40 feet long and 20 feet tall. 269 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,760 Warner said the object was just parked in mid air and all of a 270 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:52,000 sudden my hands jerked back and I was on a UFO, Warner said. 271 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:56,000 Warner claims he was gone for several minutes, surrounded by 272 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,480 children who were also terrified in mysterious craft. 273 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:03,680 He said he remembers that a Yoda like figure put a reassuring 274 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:08,280 hand on his shoulder. This story became known as the 275 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:12,040 Berkshire UFO sighting and Warner shared his story in an 276 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:16,040 episode of Netflix series Unsolved Mysteries along with 277 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,120 multiple other witnesses from that night. 278 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,240 They all shared similar descriptions of the object. 279 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:26,480 Bright beams, saucer shaped, fairly quiet but faster than 280 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,520 anything they've ever seen. Warner still lives in his 281 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,880 childhood home, now with his own family, and he can't himself 282 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,960 quite make sense of the alleged abduction more than 50 years 283 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:40,440 ago, but has since accepted it. We have a perception of our 284 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,480 Earth. We have a perception of what 285 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,360 humanity is. I just happen to see things that 286 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,440 most people haven't seen, he said. 287 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,240 I came forward to help people and I'm not surprised that some 288 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,880 of the stuff is going on now, he said, referring to the recent 289 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,680 interest in UAPS. There are recorded accounts of 290 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,840 the 1969 sighting and local historical societies like Great 291 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:01,680 Barrington's and the Pittsfield Library. 292 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:06,040 But Andrea Maiden, Berkshire Historical Society site 293 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:10,200 supervisor, said while the event is in their records, recent 294 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:14,000 museum goers aren't asking about the alleged sighting, and 295 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,080 instead there's greater interest in the rich history of writers 296 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:21,360 to pass through western Massachusetts from the 1700s to 297 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,480 1900s. We're located in Arrowhead, 298 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,000 which is where Herman Millville wrote Moby Dick. 299 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,800 So we've we're going to have a lot of things about writers in 300 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,480 the area, Man said. Now that you're asking, I wish 301 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,480 that more people asked, too, she said. 302 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,800 I mean, I have seen the episode of Unsolved Mysteries a bunch of 303 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:42,600 times, but Harvard professor and astrophysicist Abby Loeb said we 304 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:46,240 need to be careful of human accounts like Warner's and even 305 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,160 those who testified in their congressional hearing. 306 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,160 So all these stories should be intriguing and motivating to do 307 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:57,200 scientific work, but they are no substitute to that, and we 308 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,480 shouldn't believe them until we have scientific evidence, he 309 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,960 said. Loeb has been researching the 310 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,520 possibility of interstellar objects in space as the head of 311 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,760 the Galileo project, a group combining astronomers, 312 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,599 physicists and mathematicians, and search for what lies above 313 00:17:13,599 --> 00:17:16,280 our skies. He has reason to believe there 314 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:21,839 could be scientific evidence of alien civilizations that goes on 315 00:17:21,839 --> 00:17:24,079 here. It's got a picture of Loeb. 316 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,000 Also got a picture of Charles Hoskinson from Cardano, the guy 317 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,560 that funded this thing. It's interesting. 318 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,400 This June, Loeb LED A2 week privately funded expedition off 319 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,120 the coast of Papua New Guinea, where they recovered remnants 320 00:17:37,120 --> 00:17:40,200 from a 2014 fireball that landed in the Pacific Ocean. 321 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,160 Then it goes on and talks about that a little bit. 322 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,120 I won't go over all that. We've talked about that and done 323 00:17:45,120 --> 00:17:48,200 a podcast on it, actually, it finishes up here. 324 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,400 It says Great Barrington's Warner still reckons with what 325 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,680 he said happened to him all those years ago. 326 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,720 He welcomes the attention on the issue, but he worries that with 327 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:01,040 climate change, oh boy, humanity might not be around long enough 328 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,400 to actually solve the problem. And I'm gonna get to my soapbox 329 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,760 a little bit here. And, you know, I've talked about 330 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,040 this before, this whole thing with climate change, I've had a 331 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,320 big problem with the evidence. People putting up, you know, 332 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,480 thermometers and parking lots and airport tarmacs. 333 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,960 We have. We have huge, huge environmental 334 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,760 issues on this planet. I think probably the biggest one 335 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,880 is plastic pollution and maybe nuclear waste. 336 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,680 I mean, right now we have all the stuff being dumped out of 337 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,720 the reactors in Fukushima, so there's lots and lots of stuff 338 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:38,680 that needs to be addressed. I think climate wise and 339 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,840 environment wise in this planet and I'm I'm just concerned that 340 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:46,960 climate change is a just a huge distraction to people just 341 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,040 picking up their trash and not letting it wash into the ocean. 342 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,320 That would be a start. The congressional hearings that 343 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,200 says it's one giant step, you said, but it's just one step in 344 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,640 a marathon and this marathon is a long haul. 345 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,560 OK, the congressional hearings, much like climate change, I 346 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:08,360 think are mostly a distraction at best, limited hangout, more 347 00:19:08,360 --> 00:19:11,000 important to get these accounts. I'm glad that we're able to get 348 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,320 this guy's account. This was kind of a, it's a hard 349 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,760 UFO incident to happen because you know, the the, the facts in 350 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,280 it have been kind of a little obtuse over the years. 351 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,640 I mean anywhere from 40 to 250 people having seen this saying 352 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,800 multiple people, having experiment, having experienced 353 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,600 being taken on board this, this craft and then coming back and 354 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:39,680 saying well we weren't abducted. It it to me it just goes to show 355 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,880 the emotional and mental effect that these things can have on 356 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,600 people. And I see that in the backdrop 357 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:50,280 of a lot of people being, you know, their first, their first 358 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:54,400 response to this being anger you you notice this sometimes with 359 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,440 people are faced with cognitive dissonance. 360 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,400 I mean, they have a certain way of seeing things and then when 361 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,600 something shows up that they don't think should be in the 362 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:10,200 picture, they tend not to ask questions or accept it or just 363 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,880 compartmentalize it or just say, well, I'll think about that, 364 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,720 maybe I'll have an answer later, but they tend to become a little 365 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:20,480 panic stricken, very angry, explode, name calling, you know, 366 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,080 conspiracy theorist. And that's not helpful. 367 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,640 So I guess what I'm looking at when I look at these stories is 368 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,800 is, you know, the best way to approach these things logically. 369 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,160 First and foremost, let the person that saw them, the 370 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,200 experiencer, let them have their story. 371 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,640 If they feel like they were abducted, then they were 372 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,120 abducted. If they feel like they were just 373 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,000 taking on this thing randomly, this craft or whatever, then let 374 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,200 them own that experience in whatever way that they own it 375 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,200 and listen to them and hear them out and make up your own mind. 376 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,440 But we can do this without the name calling and without the 377 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:57,200 debunking and without all the sideshows. 378 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,440 Overall, very very cool case. I recommend you take a look at 379 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:06,720 the Berkshire UFO case from 1969 until next time. 380 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,680 This is UFO Warning over and out.