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I come to you. 
You never come to us. 

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She's like I came a long ass 
way. 

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I got back to LA yesterday. 
God, it was a full day of 

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flying. 
Stopped over in Kansas City on 

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the airport. 
Oh, OK, you didn't go inside. 

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No, we didn't. 
Cities no. 

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Bosom. 
No, for some sweet. 

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Treats. 
I've been there. 

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On the way back. 
My brother lives in South 

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Dakota. 
OK, that's cold. 

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That's different there, yeah. 
I'm sure. 

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How do they feel about your 
presence there? 

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So they live in the town where 
the South Dakota University is. 

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OK. 
So it's really small, like 

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population is only like 5000. 
Oh, wow. 

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And when I was there in summer 
last year, I was walking around 

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the town and I don't like the 
sun so I had like a fool like 

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towel over my head walking 
around and everyone was just 

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like what the fuck? 
I love that made an impression. 

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OK, let's start the show. 
Are you ready? 

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Yeah. 
You excited? 

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I know, Me too. 
If I was pregnant, my tits would

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be milking. 
Oh, you guys are welcome to an 

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amazingly scintillating episode 
of a Rung Sauce podcast, AKA La 

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Salsa Mala Bebe. 
Today we have Caitlin Dark, an 

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amazing musician, an Australian 
basketball player. 

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Please welcome Caitlin Dark. 
Welcome. 

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Welcome. 
Thank you. 

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And today we have Jess Peters, 
an amazing Co host to my right, 

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happy to be here. 
We are so excited to have you 

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with us. 
Caitlin, you hit us up. 

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Our extreme pleasure because you
wanted to come on and give us 

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your sweet mouth. 
Yeah, big fan, big fan. 

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Fuck yeah. 
And that's why I think Tippy is 

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a fucking icon. 
Oh my 100% stop, don't stop, 

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stop, stop. 
No thanks for having me. 

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No, it's, it's truly our 
pleasure. 

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I actually knew about you before
you hit us up. 

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So this is a real treat because 
everybody's been in love with 

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you for quite some time. 
Because if you're Aura. 

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Yeah. 
Super hot Aura. 

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It's the Internet. 
I love the Internet and now I'm 

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all over it. 
You are everywhere. 

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I think you are every queers 
fantasy. 

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They are just drip drip dripping
in so many locations for you. 

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Yeah, so many. 
I get messages constantly in the

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requests. 
It's just thousands, thousands. 

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Thousands. 
People every day about five 

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times a day just DM in from 
unhinged to just sweet to 

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everything. 
What do they say? 

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What are some unhinged ones? 
What was one the? 

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Other masturbating on the 
toilet? 

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Have you gotten that one? 
That's a good. 

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One. 
No, I haven't. 

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Me neither, but I want it. 
There was, oh, I got one on 

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like, you know how TikTok is a 
bit hard to navigate with the 

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the messaging? 
I got one the other day and I 

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was like, I go to bed with your 
shirt on thinking of you or like

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just like really unhit, like 
just like. 

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Very personal. 
Yeah, I'm just like, that's too 

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much. 
Yeah, it's. 

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So crazy I I see messages like 
that and like what I would 

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respond is like, do you smell it
at night? 

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Or like, tell me how you think 
of me like I'm. 

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Just so crazy. 
I just don't even open the trap 

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door with the conversation 
'cause that's. 

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What I'm told to do, but 
sometimes I engage. 

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I just go for it. 
I checked their profile and if 

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they seem a bit alright maybe 
I'd engage, but a lot of the 

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time. 
You don't know what? 

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You're getting, I do not know. 
There is some cooked people out 

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there. 
Yeah, like 3 steps away from the

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institution. 
Yeah, and a lot of the messages 

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too. 
They're not just females or like

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queer people. 
They're men. 

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I have a lot of men, a lot of 
men, and it's like, can't you 

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see that? 
I am not into. 

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So we were discussing this on a 
different podcast and this is 

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what I was told because I don't 
know my brain is so strange. 

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And I recently got Adm from a 
man that offered me $10 because 

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he said he masturbated to my 
photograph and I said Oh my God 

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that's amazing. 
You're like which photo? 

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Like I. 
Wanted a new. 

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Like my profile photo? 
Like on Facebook? 

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What? 
No, I was so curious and he was 

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like, I have to pay you. 
This is my penance. 

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And I was like, listen, man. 
It's a lot more expensive than 

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that. 
Like if it's $10 you can keep 

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it. 
I said if you want to send me 

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100 then we OK. 
Did he reply? 

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Yes. 
And he was like, just please, 

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you know, blah, blah, blah. 
And he's like, I'm just so 

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ashamed about that. 
I said I don't think you need to

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be ashamed about it. 
I said Never feel ashamed about 

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your personal business, I said. 
But you just didn't need to tell

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me about it. 
You know what I'm saying? 

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Can you imagine? 
But Tallulah told me that this 

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was the complete wrong response.
And apparently what he was 

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searching for and what they're 
doing by DM ING us these types 

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of things is they want us to be 
completely like oh, I can't 

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believe you, you pig. 
And so by me being like, well 

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this is amazing. 
It was like. 

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He probably wanted to be like, 
you need to send me $1000. 

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Right now, you dirty 
motherfucker. 

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Like how? 
Dare you degraded They want to 

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be degraded, because now that 
I'm a everyone knows that I'm a 

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basketball and they know you're 
famous How how tall I am. 

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I get so many people been foot 
fetish people DM ING me yeah 

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and. 
This could be a new business. 

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I was going to say, have you 
thought about? 

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Yeah, I send videos of my feet 
and they you. 

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Heard it here first, folks. 
Wait, what? 

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How much is the bit like most 
that you got? 

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32nd video I get $80.00 and I'll
just. 

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Send it up the price. 
We need to up the prices. 

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So I just film and I'll be like 
my foot. 

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My foot is bigger than your 
peasant little penis and that's 

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what they want. 
And so when? 

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Yes. 
And then I was, because I just 

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come, came from New York. 
I was meant to. 

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This guy was meant to come over 
for an hour and pay me $300. 

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No. 
Did you have security? 

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No, he was just going to come 
over. 

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He didn't know, show waste of 
time, but he just wanted me to 

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step on his face for an hour and
just say you're a piece of shit.

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My foot on your face is where 
it's meant to be because I'm 

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suffocating the life out of you 
piece of shit blah blah blah 

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blah blah. 
You're really good at this. 

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Yeah, yeah, I'm a method actor, 
yeah. 

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Wow. 
Honestly, if I were them and I 

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was really into this, you're the
best person for the job. 

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Yeah. 
I mean, it's pretty easy. 

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I'm just like you piece of shit.
You're underneath my foot. 

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You are hopeless. 
Your Dick must be so small and 

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my foot is so much bigger than 
it. 

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Right, because they want the 
little PP yeah thing. 

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Yeah. 
And his name for me is my 

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goddess. 
I love that, yeah. 

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Is he a repeat customer? 
Yeah. 

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Is this somebody that was in 
your DMS? 

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Yeah. 
Oh, perfect. 

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And then he's like, can you 
please follow me back on 

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Instagram? 
And I go, no, I don't want 

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anything to do with you. 
I just send you your videos and 

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that's where it stops. 
This is incredible. 

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I want to do this. 
Yeah, yeah, I was saying you, 

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you just need to put a foot 
emoji in your bio. 

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I should do it and get more 
customers but. 

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You should, yeah, I think you 
could, really. 

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We're raising the prices. 
Yeah, yeah, I know after this 

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podcast too. 
My. 

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Let's raise it to 1K. 
Yeah, let's raise it to 1K3. 3K 

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for an hour of face stepping for
sure. 

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For sure at least three. 
K yeah, yeah. 

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Yeah. 
But no show. 

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I know like he's done. 
He's dead to me. 

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Yeah, because he didn't show up.
He didn't show up. 

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He was a no show. 
It's over. 

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And this is it. 
So he's a New York guy, OK, 

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Yeah, a lot of things go down in
New York. 

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Yeah. 
He was like, I'm going to drive 

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in. 
He's probably in the outskirts 

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of New York's and he's like, 
I'll drive in. 

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And we had 12:00 PM the day, the
day, the day. 

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The time was all set in 
daylight. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Shut up, that makes it so much 

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funnier. 
Yeah. 

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I mean, it's a noon call time, 
yeah. 

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And then he goes, and am I 
allowed to suck your toes? 

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And I said, we'll evaluate when 
you come over and the price 

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might be a little bit higher. 
Yeah, the price would 

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definitely. 
Be higher for sure. 

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I was really excited to feel. 
Like I should broker these 

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things for you because I feel 
like you're you're going really 

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low. 
Yeah, I know I'm a beginner at 

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it, but it's only going to 
increase from here. 

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Just. 
I'm a beginner. 

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I'm obsessed with that entire 
situation. 

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Yeah, we'll talk. 
Football is new to. 

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Me. 
Do you do this line of work also

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while you're playing basketball?
Oh, they like it more because 

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they're always sweaty. 
Yeah, they won't want me to film

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content for them once I finish 
training or being at the gym and

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they want me to take this one 
guy's really particular and he's

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always like, you have to keep on
saying, my sweaty big US13 size 

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shoe. 
I'm about to take my sock off 

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for my US13 sweaty Bigfoot. 
Honestly, like if that is their 

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thing, you really do nail it. 
Yeah, and I keep it, my tone 

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really like mono, like I didn't 
give a fuck. 

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I've just got a sweaty Bigfoot. 
And now how sweaty does the foot

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actually get? 
It gets sweaty, like the sock is

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moist, OK, but it's not 
dripping. 

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This one guy though. 
This other guy? 

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She's bringing it. 
Out for him. 

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So there's this one guy and he 
is like, I want you to film and 

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they want your feet kind of like
paws up so the back of your 

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foot. 
And he goes, I want you to put 

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baby oil all over your feet and 
then slap your feet together. 

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And and I tried it and I did one
video for him and I was like, 

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this is so unhinged. 
I feel fucked. 

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Like me sitting trying to put my
feet. 

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I've. 
Got a good butterfly? 

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Position. 
So I I. 

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You got a long leg. 
Yeah, You got a. 

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That's a, That's a big. 
Yeah, big clap to the. 

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Feet and. 
Then and he goes, I really want 

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to hear the oil like slap and 
slip and blah blah blah. 

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And I was just. 
Does he have a particular brand 

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that he favours of the oil? 
No, he just wanted. 

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Lots. 
And lots and lots he goes. 

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You might need a towel 
underneath your foot because I 

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want lots of oil on on your 
feet. 

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Have you ever like engaged with 
oil? 

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Like intimately with a lover. 
Like Lube? 

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Yes. 
So Lube oil. 

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Have you ever done oil? 
Lube. 

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No oil. 
You know, it's a messy 

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situation. 
Oil. 

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Have you done oil? 
Oh my God. 

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Yeah, Yeah, that's a situation. 
It's really messy when. 

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You go to get a massage and the 
oils all over you, you feel like

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you don't feel nice. 
I love it. 

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I literally I every time I 
shower. 

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There's nothing like glistening 
skin. 

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And if you put if you put it on 
while you're still wet, it 

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literally makes you like 
waterproof. 

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It's so weird like. 
I don't like that. 

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Roll right off of you. 
I don't like that. 

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I always say I dress like an 
undertaker. 

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My hygiene's like a surgeon. 
So the oil, I'm like there's a 

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bit of like it's a bit messy and
not as sterile as like a product

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that's meant to be used for 
that. 

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I totally hear you because my 
hygiene is very like at 100 but 

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usually in situations of the 
bedroom my thoughts of hygiene 

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go completely out of the window.
Yeah, they they can, can't they?

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It's just in a different like my
hygiene brain went, you know, to

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the to the living room and it's 
not here anymore. 

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When I feel when your hygiene 
brain comes back on into the 

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bedroom and means you don't like
that person very much because 

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you're not thinking about being 
in the moment. 

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Yeah, you're not present. 
You're. 

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Thinking about is this person? 
Oh yeah, it's taken me to 

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certain situations. 
It's not a good time. 

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It's not a good time when your 
hygiene brain is on. 

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But yeah, when you are totally 
enamored with somebody and 

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getting really dirty with them, 
there's really nothing better. 

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No, like blood spit. 
Epic. 

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The whole night wet and wild. 
Wet and wild candle wax 

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chocolate. 
No, I don't actually do the 

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chocolate thing. 
The chocolate's not great, I. 

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Don't like eating in the 
bedroom? 

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OK. 
You're not meant to eat in your 

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bed. 
I agree with this and I've 

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gotten into several fights with 
my mates about this. 

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You sleep in the bed. 
You don't eat in the bed. 

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I agree with you. 
I got into a very serious fight 

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with an ex-girlfriend of mine 
because she it was like her fun 

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time experience. 
She's like I cannot believe 

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you're not going to allow me to 
eat in this bed. 

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I said I'll put down a tarp. 
I give a cow if I Yeah. 

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I'll put a tarp for you because 
you know what? 

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She was a very messy eater and 
we did the whole thing. 

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I put the tarp down for her and 
there were crumbs and it was 

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just look like a crime scene 
happened, no? 

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No, no, no. 
And you know what? 

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You've probably got a table and 
chairs downstairs or wherever. 

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Yeah, you can eat there. 
Absolutely you can. 

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You can even eat right next to 
the bed. 

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Yeah, right. 
But the last thing you need is a

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crumb crawling upside of your 
Hoo ha. 

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And then then you're like, no 
thanks. 

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And then what's going to happen?
You never know. 

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Could upset the pH. 
You don't know, I don't want it.

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It's operation for me 
personally. 

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Operation preserve my pussy. 
That's my goal. 

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Keep it clean. 
Keep it clean, keep it clean, 

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keep it right. 
I was saying to Vanessa, who's 

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here. 
Shout out. 

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Shout out. 
Vanessa, Papa. 

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I love vacuum cleaners. 
Oh. 

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I love vacuum. 
What's your favorite? 

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Well I like the old school ones 
that have a bag still inside 

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them because they actually do 
more sucking. 

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And PowerPoint. 
That's true PowerPoint vacuums 

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because there's no battery that 
can die. 

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I even have a vacuum tattoo. 
You're kidding. 

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No, I would love to watch you 
vacuum. 

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I would too, to be honest you. 
Should maniac vacuuming? 

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Honestly I want to get into 
twitch this year. 

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It's a goal and I should just 
live stream the vacuum, Gosh. 

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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 
But you with a tiny vacuum I 

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think would be really funny. 
A dust Buster. 

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Is something just like. 
Is that what you call a dust? 

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I've got a couple of the little 
handheld ones. 

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Many vacuums. 
Do you own 3? 

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How many do you want? 
I'd love like 10. 

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Ten. 
Yeah, and you have the space for

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them? 
That all have little spaces in 

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the house. 
You know, people like hang up 

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their like skateboards, vacuums.
You could do vacuums. 

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You could just hang the vacuums 
and honestly. 

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It's a gallery. 
Yeah, it's a gallery of vacuums.

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It could be like a museum. 
You could have the history I 

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bet. 
People will send you vacuums, 

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beat pegs, vacuums. 
I love it vacuums. 

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One of the best sounds that you 
can hear is when you you go over

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a patch of dirt and it sprinkles
up like the tube. 

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And I'm like, I got it. 
The floor is clean, my brain is 

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clean. 
OK, so are you usually the 

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cleaner in a relationship? 
I've dated some really messy 

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people. 
Usually, and this is just a 

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fact, but attractive people are 
usually messy. 

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Hot girls and baddies are messy.
They are. 

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They are. 
And I mean, it looks like a 

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tornado has hit the area. 
It's hard to see the floor. 

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Daily the tornado and even if 
it's picked up, you're like, how

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did this tornado get here again?
How did you drive 45 different 

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outfits? 
Right. 

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Yeah. 
So I almost was like, how can 

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this be averted? 
And I was thinking of like a tub

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system and like maybe just 
taking all the shit and putting 

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it in a tub and like whisking 
that away. 

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Yeah, I've got a better way. 
Please. 

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So my ex and I, we lived 
together and we had our own 

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rooms. 
Yeah, it was perfect because you

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can keep your room messy, have 
all your clothes everywhere, and

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I'll keep mine pristine. 
Yeah, like an operating room. 

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Yeah, and then you can sleep 
over. 

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I'm feeling good or I'll sleep 
over in yours. 

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You're going to sleep over in 
Tornado Town. 

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Yeah, sometimes I did. 
And then it's like like you. 

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Open your eyes and like resort 
back to this. 

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Was my past to. 
You I'll deal with your mess. 

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About the crumb thing, sometimes
I'd get into the bed and be 

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like, you've been eating in 
here, haven't you? 

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But I often wonder like is there
any way to like break the habit?

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Like if you show a good example.
Like they do break the habit. 

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I find that with their 
extremeness of like messy, they 

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have this one day maybe once or 
twice a month where they'll go 

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on a cleaning frenzy. 
Yeah, it's like a pimple. 

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It's like the pimple has like 
been brewing and brewing and 

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brewing and then finally you 
just pop it and then that's 

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their cleaning day. 
Yeah, yeah, they'll have one 

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cleaning day. 
The room stays clean for about 

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48 hours and then it's bad 
again. 

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Unless they have an event to go 
to that night, yeah, it's just 

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screwed. 
And it's this. 

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You're screwed with your hair 
comes. 

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It's this. 
Literally I. 

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Can't find anything I. 
Have nothing to wear. 

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I have nothing. 
Yeah, they're very messy girls. 

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Yeah. 
What's your sign? 

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Capricorn. 
Love, love, you're about that 

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life. 
Yeah, I get it. 

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Yeah, yeah, you're about getting
shit done. 

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Yeah, I love achieving my goals.
That's what it's all about. 

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And if someone gets in the way, 
I'm like bye. 

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I don't care about being by 
myself if my goals are getting 

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achieved. 
I'm very psychotic with my 

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goals, very determined. 
Nobody's going to stop me. 

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Like I'll kill you before you 
stop me if it has to come down 

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to it. 
No, I feel that. 

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So like it's the same. 
But that's how you probably got 

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to be a professional basketball 
player. 

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Obsessed it have to be. 
Like it's like goals and all my 

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like dreams I'm chasing and then
things happen on the side. 

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But like, I've got to if I die 
tomorrow, the thing that will 

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upset me most is did I achieve 
my goals? 

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Did I get shit done? 
Did I do enough? 

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If you died tomorrow, would you 
be happy? 

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No, I've got so much to do. 
That's hot. 

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Yeah. 
I love your energy. 

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You've got so many projects 
going. 

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On Oh yeah, well, music is like 
my main, main, main thing. 

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Like, that's like, I've always 
been a musician. 

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And then I was very talented at 
basketball and I turned 

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professional at 16 and then I 
got swept up. 

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Professional at 16. 
Yeah. 

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So in Australia I went to this 
place called the Australian 

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Institute of Sport and you get 
hand picked to go to this place 

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in Canberra and you just train 
every single day to like play 

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for Australia and it's like less
than 1% of Australians get to go

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for any of the sports. 
Like it's so prestigious. 

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So you're really special. 
I'm really special. 

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You're Australia's favorite, 
yeah. 

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I was so shit at basketball 
growing up, but I was so 

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obsessed and so goal orientated 
and so focused and I would just 

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practice to like my fingertips 
bled from shooting. 

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I was just like hyper fixated. 
And then, yeah, like, got all 

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like my basketball goals and 
dreams and stuff like that. 

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And then I was like, oh, I'm 
kind of over it. 

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And then I retired at 26 and 
then took so long off 

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basketball, disappeared and 
like, started doing music and 

394
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all of that. 
And then COVID happened and all 

395
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these coaches, no imports were 
allowed into the Australian 

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Basketball League. 
So all these coaches and 

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managers and agents were like, I
wonder what Caitlin's doing. 

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Do you remember that player? 
So people started contacting me 

399
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and being like, hey, do you 
still play basketball? 

400
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Would you want to sign with a 
team? 

401
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And I was so bored in 
Melbourne's lockdown. 

402
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So I was like, fuck yeah, I'll 
sign, I'll play. 

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So I hadn't played for years and
then I got flown and moved to 

404
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Queensland for a few months and 
just play. 

405
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First class. 
No, but they give me exit Rose. 

406
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I was going to say, you're very 
long. 

407
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Yeah, but they flew me. 
I was living in Queensland while

408
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Melbourne was in lockdown and I 
just like played really well and

409
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everyone's like, Oh my God, 
she's still alive and she still 

410
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plays like can still bore. 
So then every season after I was

411
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just getting resigned by 
different clubs and I'd be like,

412
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you know what? 
I don't play basketball anymore.

413
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I can't really be bothered. 
So then I'd pick and choose 

414
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contracts. 
So a lot of teams would fly me 

415
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back and forth just to play the 
games and I wouldn't have to 

416
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train and that just pay me per 
game and I just to this. 

417
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Can you request things like I 
want a personal chef I want? 

418
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It's not, it's not like I like 
wish but like it was that just 

419
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fly me up and I'd stay a weekend
and play like 2 games and fly 

420
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back to Melbourne and just live 
my normal life. 

421
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Wouldn't even touch a 
basketball. 

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If agent or a team catch me on a
good day, I might sign five 

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games. 
That's it, yeah. 

424
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That's all you get. 
Yeah. 

425
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So is everybody fucking 
everybody on the basketball 

426
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team? 
Oh my God, if there was like a 

427
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gossip magazine for the sports 
world, for women's basketball, 

428
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it would be rife. 
There is so much going on, 

429
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there's so many layers. 
My sister is also used to be a 

430
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professional basketballer as 
well. 

431
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My family's quite sporty and her
drama and life would have been 

432
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like a six page spread. 
Like she really got caught up. 

433
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I don't fuck with sports people 
and sports girls. 

434
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I don't really find them 
attractive. 

435
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I was going to say because 
they're not your type. 

436
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That's not what's your type. 
My type would be Julia Fox. 

437
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Like, I actually think I want 
someone who has their world and 

438
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that's their world and they're 
an artist and they do it well. 

439
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And they also have priorities 
like how she's a mum. 

440
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I love that. 
And then she's got her whole 

441
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career and her whole like, 
vision of her art in her head. 

442
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She's like a cyclone. 
I love that. 

443
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And then I can just be a little 
collaboration on the side. 

444
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Julia, where you at? 
Julia where you at? 

445
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She follows me on TikTok. 
I bet she does. 

446
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So she knows I exist. 
I mean, I bet you are just one 

447
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large palm away from accessing 
her in New York. 

448
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I bet your people know her 
people in New York. 

449
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We've got a lot of mutuals, 
yeah, so many mutuals. 

450
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So you can hit the mutuals. 
If I were you, I'd be like, Hey,

451
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Sarah, get Julia at the party. 
And they'd be like, well, I 

452
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don't know. 
She doesn't want to go out. 

453
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She's taking care of her son, 
like, blah, blah, blah. 

454
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And you're like, OK, well, you 
could just extend the invite, 

455
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see if it happens. 
I'll come over and cook her 

456
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,720
dinner. 
Wow, but it'd probably have to 

457
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,840
be on a night where the child 
isn't there because you probably

458
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,640
wouldn't get the intro because 
she's very serious about her 

459
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,400
child. 
She should be, yeah. 

460
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:10,000
I think it's hot, yeah. 
We'll see if the universe 

461
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,840
provides. 
Do you ever slide in to the DMS?

462
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,320
Never. 
Once, no, I actually made a song

463
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,480
and before I went viral, I made 
this song and I had a sample of 

464
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,600
her interview, that one where 
she's like, you've got to be 

465
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,120
delusional. 
And I sampled that just at the 

466
00:24:28,120 --> 00:24:31,120
start of this song. 
And I did send her a message 

467
00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:34,600
just saying, oh, I didn't 
realise you follow me, but I'm 

468
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,400
about to release this song. 
And it's so strange. 

469
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,120
I've sampled your voice. 
Here's the Dropbox if you want 

470
00:24:40,120 --> 00:24:44,240
to hear it. 
But I was like, it stays on 

471
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,560
scent. 
I think when you've got millions

472
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:50,440
and millions of followers, you 
just would not, like, get 

473
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:51,520
anything. 
Yeah. 

474
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,080
But you think if she follows you
that it would have put it. 

475
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,480
I also think she's someone who 
doesn't fuck with her inbox 

476
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,200
she's got like she would have. 
She probably pays people to do 

477
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,280
that. 
Yeah, like I don't even have 

478
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,800
like a quarter scale of 
followers like someone really 

479
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,240
influential. 
So you. 

480
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,240
Have like thousands and. 
Thousands. 

481
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:13,680
I get thousands. 
So many on the. 

482
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,280
Thousands. 
Thousands. 

483
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,800
Let's say millions. 
Iconic. 

484
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,760
Yeah, but like, I just couldn't 
imagine, like on a grand scale, 

485
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:30,800
having so many followers and so 
many people trying to access 

486
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,200
you. 
My my friend's circle is quite 

487
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,760
tight. 
I'm like, I'm how tight. 

488
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,560
I've probably got like less than
10 good friends, like they're my

489
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,120
people, but I. 
And if you called them and you 

490
00:25:43,120 --> 00:25:45,960
committed a murder? 
Oh, they would be healthy, no 

491
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:46,880
problem. 
No. 

492
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:51,160
They wouldn't be like, oh, you 
did it again, not again. 

493
00:25:51,360 --> 00:25:53,600
You're like. 
We need to find a new. 

494
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,160
Spot to hide this body. 
My friends told me that they 

495
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,920
absolutely would not help me 
bury a body. 

496
00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:03,120
While some of them to be fair 
some of them are riders but some

497
00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:05,480
of them were like no we're not 
because it probably happened in 

498
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,640
the bedroom and that's your 
fucking fault. 

499
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:12,520
And I said if it happened in the
bedroom, it wasn't on purpose. 

500
00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:16,320
Oh yeah, Accident, yeah. 
Accidents happen. 

501
00:26:16,360 --> 00:26:17,920
Accidents. 
They do. 

502
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,080
You know what, I've just met 
you, but I'd help you roll that 

503
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,720
body up and. 
I wouldn't need your strong 

504
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,480
physique, absolutely. 
I'm not that strong. 

505
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,080
I've seen some of your workout 
videos and I'm like, that's 

506
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,120
pretty good. 
You're agile. 

507
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:33,280
Agile. 
Yes, you're. 

508
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,480
Very agile. 
I can jump. 

509
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,520
Nimble. 
Move, but I like strength. 

510
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,480
I would prefer when I play 
basketball to run an extra meter

511
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:47,160
instead of physical like a 
physical battle with some of the

512
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,000
other players because I just 
don't like physicality on the 

513
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,800
court. 
Oh my God, If I had your body, 

514
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:57,760
I'd be bodying these bitches. 
I'd be like, oopsies, no. 

515
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:04,520
Every season that I play, I 
break a rib or bruise a rib 

516
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:09,520
because they're elbowing. 
Yeah, so it's hard. 

517
00:27:10,120 --> 00:27:11,600
And you can't do anything for a 
broken. 

518
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:12,640
Rib no. 
And I'm just. 

519
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,560
Have to find a nice woman to 
like help lick your wounds. 

520
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,000
Yeah, they're so painful because
when you roll around in your 

521
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,560
sleep at night, you wake up 
because of the pain too. 

522
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,800
But I don't have much meat on 
me, so I'm just like a praying 

523
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,760
mantis. 
Great, so no hookups with any 

524
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:35,640
teammates ever? 
No, no from. 16 to now 0. 

525
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:40,800
There is one basketball girl 
that I've hooked up with, but 

526
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,640
that's it. 
OK, just one. 

527
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,680
Yeah, just one. 
And she lives in Italy, so it 

528
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,840
doesn't matter. 
She was shipped off. 

529
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:49,160
Yeah, OK. 
Yeah. 

530
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,840
Kind of crazy all these 
basketball players like so so 

531
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,480
well hung. 
Yeah, yeah. 

532
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,080
So well hung. 
So well hung. 

533
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,840
Literally, you get inserted and 
you're like, huh. 

534
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,640
Yeah. 
Like well hung. 

535
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,160
Yeah. 
Like this is your Dick. 

536
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,160
Oh. 
Yeah, yeah. 

537
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:03,800
OK. 
Very. 

538
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,440
Well, hung, right? 
So if you insert your fingers 

539
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,800
into a girl, they're going to be
stuffed like a Turkey on 

540
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:09,960
Thanksgiving dinner. 
Yeah. 

541
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,320
Yeah. 
Yeah, yeah, right. 

542
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:12,920
OK. 
And there's bigger girls than 

543
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,760
me. 
I'm sure it's basketball. 

544
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,640
Anything goes. 
Yeah, This brings me back to 

545
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,240
like the question that I always 
love love to ask. 

546
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,960
What would you rather be cheated
on with? 

547
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,560
Somebody hotter than you or 
somebody more unattractive than 

548
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,560
you? 
I think unattractive you then 

549
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,200
you're like, all right, bye. 
Right. 

550
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,880
And then you could call your 
friends and be like, Can you 

551
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,880
believe this is really 
embarrassing? 

552
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,640
Have you seen? 
It's really embarrassing. 

553
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,080
I'm the opposite I think. 
You're like I'm. 

554
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,320
Like she she could be hotter 
than me, but she's not cooler 

555
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:44,800
than me. 
Like. 

556
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:45,920
I. 
Promise. 

557
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,480
Wait, so wait, so you would 
rather you to be cheated on with

558
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:56,520
someone hotter but not cooler? 
Yeah, OK. 

559
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:58,640
I'd rather be the cool ex than 
the. 

560
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,680
I don't want, I don't want them 
to be hotter. 

561
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:06,040
I don't want them to be cooler. 
I want them to literally be like

562
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,080
broke. 
I want them to be like a loser. 

563
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:10,880
That would make me feel good. 
But. 

564
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,520
Isn't that a bummer? 
Because it's like, no. 

565
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,720
No, no, because that just makes 
you stupid and I can deal with 

566
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,000
that. 
OK, OK, OK. 

567
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:29,160
My ex I like obviously we broke 
up but then her new partner so 

568
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,840
cooked her new she got her 
girlfriend pretty much like 2 

569
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,000
weeks after we broke up. 
Yeah, typical. 

570
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,560
I was. 
She was probably talking to her 

571
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,600
the whole time. 
Yeah, probably, but. 

572
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,640
Shout out she's. 
Probably in your DMS though. 

573
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,920
Loki The. 
Girlfriend's probably in your 

574
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:50,680
DM. 
But get this, my ex's name was 

575
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,080
Sheridan. 
Her new partner's name is 

576
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,240
Sheridan. 
A little twin says like with the

577
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,120
same name. 
That is gross. 

578
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:00,800
That's. 
Such a. 

579
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,080
Random name? 
Yeah, I know, I know, I know 

580
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,120
how. 
Many it's. 

581
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,600
Common name in Australia. 
No, no, it's it's it's really 

582
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:12,040
weird and awkward and I feel 
like Sheridan squared is is just

583
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:16,680
like, it's like it's not good, 
it's not cool, it's not fun. 

584
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,800
Who has same name? 
Yeah. 

585
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,560
So. 
If you think about it right, 

586
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,760
you're not calling the person by
their government name. 

587
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:28,880
Usually it's like I don't know 
or like baby or whatever you do 

588
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,560
like. 
I feel like these two people 

589
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,400
would definitely be like 
Sheridan, Sheridan, Sheridan, 

590
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,240
Sheridan. 
So they belong together? 

591
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,280
Yeah. 
OK, cute. 

592
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,800
No love lost there. 
No, and they're happy. 

593
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:46,080
Like my Sheridan has her 
Labrador Sheridan, so they're 

594
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,480
happy. 
They have your dog. 

595
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,720
They did take the dog that we 
had, but no the other 

596
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,000
Sheridan's, like a Labrador that
just follows the other Sheridan.

597
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,280
Oh, wait. 
The dog's name is Sheridan. 

598
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,880
No, the dog's dog. 
'S name I was. 

599
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,160
Like no, no, no, no. 
Sheridan. 

600
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:01,640
Sheridan and the dog. 
Sheridan. 

601
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,960
No, that's Sheridan. 
The dog's name is Bag. 

602
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,520
So she took your dog? 
Yeah, she took the dog. 

603
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:13,200
What are your thoughts in a 
breakup about split custody of 

604
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,240
an animal? 
Well, I was actually in 

605
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:19,000
Indonesia with my best friend. 
That sounds so luxurious. 

606
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,320
Yeah, it was nice. 
It was for her birthday and we 

607
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:27,160
were just on holiday like R&R, 
and then we were sharing the dog

608
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,280
still. 
And then I get a text message 

609
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,520
being like, I'm taking the dog, 
blah, blah, blah, blah. 

610
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,480
You'll never seen it again. 
And like she was jealous I was 

611
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:36,280
on holiday. 
Yeah. 

612
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:37,680
She's trying to ruin your trip. 
Yeah. 

613
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,320
They always try to ruin the trip
and it's like you go out of town

614
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,480
and your ex is unhappy, they're 
going to send you a fucking text

615
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,240
to ruin your time. 
Why? 

616
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,400
Why all of a sudden I'm in the 
hospital like, like, I'm stuck 

617
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,520
in quicksand like. 
Anything, anything, anything, 

618
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,760
anything. 
Or it's just like, I miss you 

619
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:03,640
and you're like shut up. 
So unhinged but she was also 

620
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,480
with like her partner at the 
time. 

621
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:10,040
I'm like why are you texting me?
Like this is gross behaviour. 

622
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:14,560
But anyway, she took the dog. 
It was a toy poodle as well. 

623
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,520
Oh, really good looking. 
Really good looking. 

624
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,640
It broke my heart. 
I cried and cried and cried. 

625
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,600
Yeah. 
Anything, yeah, Small. 

626
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,200
You can stroke them in your lap.
Yeah. 

627
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:28,760
But then I bought another dog, a
teacup poodle and caught it 

628
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,600
child with a friend so. 
Perfect. 

629
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,520
So you share child with a 
friend? 

630
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,120
Yeah. 
I love that village. 

631
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:38,200
I love. 
These names. 

632
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,360
Yeah, they could. 
Child is wonderful. 

633
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,200
Imagine if you had a real child 
and called it child. 

634
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,200
Yeah, exactly. 
Child. 

635
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,080
One child. 
Two. 

636
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,520
Oh no. 
Well I was thinking like names 

637
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,880
for kids. 
Could be cool if you caught it 

638
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,840
123. 
I love this idea. 

639
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,760
I love the name. 
Say ONE, you know? 

640
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,200
Yeah. 
Or maybe if it'd be even weirder

641
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,760
if you did numericals just. 
Yeah, one that you want. 

642
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,000
Or a bit more of a vibe or no 
tour. 

643
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,520
I love when you speak with your 
accent. 

644
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:19,200
Commis Day. 
Listen, it does something to me.

645
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,960
Yeah, I know X is running 
vacations. 

646
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,880
That's something, huh? 
I didn't know it was as common 

647
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,680
with the like holiday text as 
you mentioned, so that's good to

648
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,040
know. 
Oh yeah, they always hit you 

649
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:36,200
around the either a vacation, 
holidays, birthday, birthday 

650
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,160
holidays are always a good one. 
Like, oh, it's Christmas. 

651
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,920
You know, like. 
I don't have many X's, so yeah, 

652
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,160
it's good to know. 
How many X's do you have? 

653
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,080
2. 
You have two. 

654
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,600
No three. 
OK, Yeah. 

655
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,920
So if you guys think that you 
were an ex, you weren't, and I'm

656
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,440
really sorry about that. 
You weren't. 

657
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,080
No, that was just probably a 
situation. 

658
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:03,800
OK, so. 
Or dating. 

659
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,560
Mostly you do dating. 
I don't even date. 

660
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,120
OK, so you just. 
Yeah. 

661
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,600
Mate, for a night, it's kind of 
like what you do with the 

662
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,120
basketball. 
You're like, you'll have me for 

663
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,159
three days. 
Yeah. 

664
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,920
Or yeah, like I was in two kind 
of really long term 

665
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,360
relationships that took me out 
of the game for close to 10 

666
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:28,040
years and then I dated a little 
bit and datings a bit. 

667
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,360
I was just like people are 
boring, people suck. 

668
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,400
I don't want to waste energy if 
I have no really are. 

669
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,840
Yeah, and I don't. 
Fucked up out there. 

670
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,440
You're like, get a personality. 
For real. 

671
00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:41,159
And yeah. 
And then if you've got no 

672
00:34:41,159 --> 00:34:45,159
intentions and dating I'm, I was
like, I'm wasting my time. 

673
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,639
I could be at the gym, I could 
be making music. 

674
00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:50,960
I could be doing this. 
I'm not dating anyone until 

675
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:55,040
someone comes into my life and 
blows me off my feet and I'm 

676
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,840
like whoa. 
I feel the same way, but I feel 

677
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,960
like even when we're in a 
relationship, my time is very 

678
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:06,840
precious. 
So if I'm stopping working, 

679
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,480
which is mostly what I do for 
you, I feel like it's training 

680
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,400
or whatever. 
But for me, it's like working. 

681
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,920
And I'm usually doing shit for 
this podcast. 

682
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:18,080
And if I'm taking time off from 
that to spend time with you and 

683
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,480
all you want to do is like 
scroll TikTok on the fucking 

684
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,040
couch. 
Like I could be working during 

685
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,480
this time if we're not spending 
intentional time together where 

686
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,440
we are having a conversation or 
going out to do something. 

687
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,840
Experiencing something new that 
you can have together? 

688
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,800
Yeah. 
And then I would usually get 

689
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,680
like, you'd rather be working 
right now. 

690
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,040
And it's like, you're fucking 
right I would, because watching 

691
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,200
this bullshit that I don't care 
about is not my idea of a good 

692
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,600
time. 
Time is money time. 

693
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,160
Is. 
Money. 

694
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,520
Time is money. 
And like, I could die tomorrow. 

695
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,000
So like, I need to get to my 
goals. 

696
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,560
Yeah, exactly. 
Exactly. 

697
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:58,400
To my. 
Goals. 

698
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,080
It's real. 
It is real. 

699
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,120
It's that's that important to 
me. 

700
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,400
It's so real. 
And I think a lot of people 

701
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,360
don't get that. 
So yeah, I've slowed down on 

702
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,000
even trying to entertain anybody
right now because I just don't 

703
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,000
think anybody gets it, No. 
Have you ever blocked anybody? 

704
00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:17,160
I actually saw the other day I 
have 6 people blocked. 

705
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:21,120
What's your thoughts on the 
block of an ex after a breakup? 

706
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,920
Do you do it? 
Well, I don't have many exes, 

707
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:33,600
like I said, yeah, but there was
there was this girl that I had a

708
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,000
bit of a thing with for like 
maybe 3 weeks, 4 weeks. 

709
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,760
We didn't really like. 
It wasn't a big deal. 

710
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,720
It was just like a. 
We're just having fun. 

711
00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:46,440
Having fun. 
And I was in this position where

712
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,560
I felt bad. 
So I kept like being like, oh, I

713
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,120
feel bad like I should hang out 
with you. 

714
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:57,160
It was just yuck. 
Anyway, I, I had to like end it 

715
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,320
with her and then I just like 
left it. 

716
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:04,240
And then the next day I had 30 
minutes of voice memos from her,

717
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:08,040
like voice messages, and I just 
didn't listen to any of them. 

718
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,280
Didn't read anything she wrote 
and just like had to block and 

719
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:12,560
delete. 
Bye. 

720
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,600
And the universe blesses me 
because I've never seen her 

721
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:17,880
again. 
Oh, that's really lucky. 

722
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,840
Yeah, really lucky. 
Where did she live? 

723
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,560
Melbourne. 
Same. 

724
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,800
Yeah, same state, but yeah, just
different circles too. 

725
00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:29,800
So do you go out in the queer 
scene in Melbourne? 

726
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,240
I'm such a shit queer. 
I don't really go out in the 

727
00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:34,600
queer scene. 
Melbourne's. 

728
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:39,040
I go to a lot of raves or like 
parties my friends throw and a 

729
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,120
lot of my friends are queer, so 
they're very queer heavy and 

730
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,080
friendly, whatever. 
But yeah, I don't really like 

731
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,360
queer nights, OK. 
I feel like lesbian nights, 

732
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,280
they're not as open minded. 
I feel like a lot of lesbian 

733
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,680
nights or whatever have like a 
food chain and they're not 

734
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:01,360
accepting of all queer people. 
It's just a certain category of 

735
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,960
like lesbians. 
And I don't really like that 

736
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,360
vibe. 
And yeah, I don't know, I just 

737
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,280
like don't like the, the rainbow
colours. 

738
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,800
I don't like, I feel like 
they're the worst colours 

739
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,360
possible to be mashed together 
and be like, this is your 

740
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,200
representation. 
And then the queers who like put

741
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,360
sparkles on their face, the 
rainbow colours and all those 

742
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,720
those nights are just so tacky 
and yuck. 

743
00:38:25,720 --> 00:38:27,720
I don't know what kind of 
lesbian nights you're going to, 

744
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,120
but there's so many in LA that I
mean, well, so many different 

745
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:33,520
events. 
So it's like very catered to 

746
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,560
like different. 
They're starting to get better, 

747
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,080
I feel. 
Yeah, in Melbourne there's a 

748
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,880
couple of cool things happening 
as well, but I am gonna go to 

749
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,120
Honey's on Saturday. 
Apparently that's a vibe of. 

750
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,560
It's a vibe. 
I was gonna go because actually 

751
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,080
I almost beat up a man the other
night. 

752
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:56,160
And that's a real story with my 
friend Alyssa. 

753
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,560
And we met the girls of the man 
that we were almost about to 

754
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,240
beat up. 
And one of those girls is a 

755
00:39:03,240 --> 00:39:06,000
bartender at Honey's and was 
like, oh, you guys should come 

756
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,480
to Honey's on Saturday. 
Oh, this Saturday. 

757
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,640
This Saturday, yes, I might be 
there, yeah. 

758
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,280
Let's do it. 
Be fun. 

759
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:18,520
In New York, we went to, My 
friend runs a party called Exes.

760
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,680
It's over 28. 
Yeah. 

761
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,200
Yeah. 
It was really fun. 

762
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,760
Beautiful crowd. 
It always is in New York. 

763
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:29,200
Yeah, but then like I get to 
like, you're there and I'm like,

764
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,560
why am I here? 
I can't be bothered and I need 

765
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:32,560
sleep. 
Bye. 

766
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,920
I could be training, yeah. 
She could be back to me. 

767
00:39:35,240 --> 00:39:36,040
Yeah, I could. 
Be back to. 

768
00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:41,640
Me, but I love techno and I love
like the club and are like a 

769
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,880
really good techno producer or 
what not coming I usually. 

770
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:45,720
Have you been to Berlin? 
Yeah. 

771
00:39:45,720 --> 00:39:48,080
Yeah, yeah, Bergheim love it. 
Yeah. 

772
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:52,040
But I usually go for the music 
because I love to dance and I 

773
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:56,040
just love to like peace out on. 
The I'd love to see you dance. 

774
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,280
I just Bob. 
Really. 

775
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,240
You Bob, You don't dance. 
I just like. 

776
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,840
OK, yeah, I'm more of a full 
body dancer myself. 

777
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,680
I really put my back into it. 
I put my back into it. 

778
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,680
Yeah, but I'm Latina, so, you 
know, I got hips ways, you know,

779
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,040
Tip throws a bag. 
I do. 

780
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,960
I just let the music take me. 
I don't know what happened. 

781
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:20,480
In New York, I went to a line 
dancing. 

782
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,520
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 
It was called Buck Wild and that

783
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,680
was fun, but I didn't line 
dance, but I watched. 

784
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,760
I like watching. 
I don't like participating in 

785
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,040
line dancing. 
Yeah, my memory can't put 

786
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,080
together those steps for some 
reason. 

787
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,120
There's a lot happening and they
all know what to do. 

788
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,200
And you don't wanna be the fish 
out of water, the fish on the 

789
00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:42,680
the sand. 
Yeah, been around. 

790
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:43,960
Do you know what I'm talking 
about? 

791
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,320
There's like a dance that. 
Lambada. 

792
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,280
Well, no, we were in like I was 
in Atlanta with Chloe and 

793
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,760
there's like these songs that 
come on and everyone knows the 

794
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,320
dance like it's like. 
Is this line dancing? 

795
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,520
Kind of. 
Like, yeah, but it's like this 

796
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:02,120
weird modern line dancing, and 
it's to like modern music. 

797
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,600
And they all know the weird. 
It's like to like a. 

798
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,080
Britney Spears song. 
No, it's like crazy, but every 

799
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,920
single person I'm like, how does
everyone know this? 

800
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:10,760
I. 
Don't know how they know 

801
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:12,440
everything. 
And. 

802
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:14,400
You know what they they teach 
this but. 

803
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,880
It was there and then it was 
also in Texas. 

804
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:17,960
I don't know, Maybe it's like, 
you know. 

805
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,480
Something that everybody knows 
and I've never seen. 

806
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,080
I don't know. 
They all know it. 

807
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,200
It's wild. 
I don't know it whole bar I. 

808
00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:26,240
Don't know it either. 
And I do like to watch. 

809
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,520
It's a nice little, almost like 
country gay parade. 

810
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,160
Yeah, it's cute. 
It's a community. 

811
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:34,840
And it's. 
They all have fun. 

812
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,400
If if. 
People are having fun and it 

813
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,280
brings some joy. 
I'm like, hell yeah. 

814
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,280
Unless they're in rainbow and 
sparkles. 

815
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:43,360
Then. 
It's too much. 

816
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,840
Yeah, it's too much that crosses
the line. 

817
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,880
So you don't do like gay 
parades? 

818
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:52,880
No Oh my God, I went to Sydney 
Mardi Gras for the first time 

819
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:59,640
World Mardi Gras 2 years ago and
I was so appalled. 

820
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,560
I was watching the parade and I 
thought the parade people were 

821
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,240
looping over and over, but it 
was just the same kind of floats

822
00:42:07,240 --> 00:42:12,080
over and over and over and over.
And I felt like it was just 

823
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:16,320
straight people watching the 
floats, like zoo animals. 

824
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:21,360
I was like, this is gross and 
it's just a car with some 

825
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,840
decorations and some naked 
people going by. 

826
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,960
What's so good about it? 
So there's no amount of money 

827
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:34,160
that somebody could pay you to 
get in some rainbow like. 

828
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,360
I would never tight. 
Shorts. 

829
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,200
No, no, no, no. 
I you're. 

830
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,000
Like an hour of face stepping 
300 bucks but to get on that 

831
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,600
fucking pride float? 
Absolutely not happening. 

832
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,080
No, I would never gram. 
No. 

833
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,000
Julia, I could. 
I could do it for 40 grand. 

834
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,120
What if Julia was in If Julio in
sparkle? 

835
00:42:56,240 --> 00:43:00,520
If it was like a all black high 
heel on top of a float, me and 

836
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,760
Julia, I'd probably do it, you 
know? 

837
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,000
You and Julia a little bit of 
make out. 

838
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,000
You guys can play rock paper 
scissors like you'll figure it 

839
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,520
out. 
But I fucking hate Mardi Gras. 

840
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,880
I Oh my God, I'm the worst 
queer. 

841
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:15,640
No, it's fine. 
Thoughts on your thoughts on 

842
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,280
scissoring? 
Scissoring. 

843
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,200
Yeah. 
Like it's, it's something that 

844
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:20,560
happens. 
You've done it. 

845
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:21,680
Yeah, everyone. 
Yeah. 

846
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:26,640
I feel like if you're a queer 
female, they, you know, you've 

847
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:27,560
scissored. 
Yeah. 

848
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:28,280
Yeah. 
Just like another. 

849
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,800
Form of making out. 
A girl tried to scissor me the 

850
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,600
other the other month and I 
think it was because it's like 

851
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,360
she knew that I'm like not very 
pro scissor. 

852
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,240
And I was like and I couldn't do
it. 

853
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:47,800
So I offered her my leg. 
I couldn't. 

854
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,920
I was like, I don't I don't do 
this like it's not my thing. 

855
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,960
I'm not here for the scissor and
I was like, but you can have my 

856
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,120
leg. 
I've had my leg used before. 

857
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,960
It's something you don't like. 
Jump straight to. 

858
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,960
Yeah, I'm at an age where I'm 
like, this isn't for me. 

859
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,800
I know what I like. 
This is not like and honestly 

860
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,560
anytime it's happening I'm 
literally there being like why? 

861
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:13,240
Yeah, like I feel like you have 
a sex tool kit and like you have

862
00:44:13,240 --> 00:44:15,760
different tools, like you have 
different things. 

863
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,520
How do you feel about 
sleepovers? 

864
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:29,360
Sleepovers if the person. 
What do you do when you don't 

865
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,640
want to sleep over? 
Oh my God, what do you say I I 

866
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,800
get into this quite a bit? 
I bet. 

867
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,400
I always give the precursor 
saying I want to get up early in

868
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,280
the morning, so I I probably 
won't be able to stay. 

869
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,640
And then here comes the time 
where like they're like, are you

870
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,680
really gonna go? 
And I'm like, yeah, I'm really 

871
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,760
gonna go. 
I like to wake up in my own bed.

872
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,200
Me too. 
And I like to get my days. 

873
00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:01,120
To your house, what do you say? 
I have been known to get up, 

874
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:06,240
have a shower and be like, do 
you want to get, do you want me 

875
00:45:06,240 --> 00:45:09,040
to, I'll get you a coffee. 
Do you want to get this show 

876
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,880
moving, you know, or I'm a 
personal trainer. 

877
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,800
So I sometimes start work so 
early that I'll get up, go to 

878
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,880
work, come back, they're still 
sleeping. 

879
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,040
And I'll be like, look, it's 
I'm, I've already done work. 

880
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,680
You're still here. 
Like you're like I've had my 

881
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:26,920
whole day. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

882
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,440
I wouldn't say it's passive 
aggressive, but I kind of make 

883
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:30,800
it known that it's time to 
leave. 

884
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:35,280
But I'm nice about it. 
So I was with this girl and I 

885
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,880
said to her, I was like, oh, are
you trying to fall asleep? 

886
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,800
I was like, I don't really do 
sleepovers. 

887
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,480
And she was like, oh, why you 
being so weird? 

888
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:48,200
And I was like, are we really 
going to get into it? 

889
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:49,760
I don't know why anybody 
wouldn't leave if. 

890
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,800
You're like. 
I also don't understand how some

891
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,400
people just don't want like 
their own space. 

892
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,800
Like, isn't that nice? 
Unless we've had Here's the 

893
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,200
thing. 
There's a difference right 

894
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,120
between like, oh, we're having a
hookup and like, oh, we've spent

895
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:07,000
the most magical evening like we
are. 

896
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,080
We have intercepted each other's
soul. 

897
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:10,960
Like when are you moving in? 
Like it's. 

898
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,000
Either when are you moving in or
when is your car arriving? 

899
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,080
It is. 
Is there's no in between. 

900
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,680
Yeah, yeah. 
That's. 

901
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,960
It that's what it is. 
And there's one other if you've 

902
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,920
gone out partying and you've 
been on the recreation or drugs 

903
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:29,320
and you've been like, you know, 
you're still awake, it could be 

904
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:30,960
the next day. 
So you're probably going to 

905
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,320
still hang out. 
But then at that point, if 

906
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,240
you're done, you're like, I can 
call you a car. 

907
00:46:35,240 --> 00:46:36,520
Yeah. 
Because clearly they can't 

908
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:37,240
drive. 
Yeah. 

909
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,560
But like, I think that that's 
like, very gracious. 

910
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,880
If you're like, hey, I'll, you 
know, call you a car. 

911
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,640
And it's always tough, though. 
It's very uncomfortable for me. 

912
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,720
Is it uncomfortable for you? 
No, I'm pretty. 

913
00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:49,880
I'm a good ruthless. 
I'm yeah, I'm a good straight 

914
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,920
shooter. 
I often say exactly how I feel, 

915
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,040
if I'm feeling or thinking 
thinking something in the 

916
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,200
moment. 
But it doesn't come across too 

917
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,120
rude because. 
Or maybe it does, but but. 

918
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,920
I always feel bad. 
Yeah, I just kind of say how I 

919
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,480
feel and think. 
Yeah, I do too, but people get 

920
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,920
mad about that sometimes. 
Yeah, do bit. 

921
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,880
I get in trouble a lot. 
Same what do? 

922
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:20,560
You get in trouble for. 
I get in trouble for speaking 

923
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:25,680
the truth and a lot of people 
can't handle the truth and I'll 

924
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,520
just call things out. 
I dated this person and they 

925
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:34,280
drank a lot of alcohol. 
I'm not a big drinker and tell 

926
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:39,640
me if I'm wrong, but you'd go 
out for a drink to a bar, have a

927
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,960
cocktail or two, Three. 
That's a lot of drinks, right? 

928
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,120
Totally. 
So, so many drinks. 

929
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:46,960
I mean this one loves to throw 
them back. 

930
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,120
I'm not like I go out with her 
and she loves to throw them 

931
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:50,960
back. 
But even 3 is a lot for me. 

932
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:55,120
So like 3 and I'm like, I'm not.
I'm not getting hammered if I'm 

933
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:56,640
with some. 
No, it's not drinking. 

934
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,800
Well, it's like 2A Tuesday. 
Night. 

935
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,000
I don't care. 
I mean, I'm gonna do me. 

936
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,280
It's a it's a Tuesday night. 
You've just gone out for a 

937
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:09,000
little date, a date dinner, had 
two drinks, and then you're kind

938
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,280
of like, that's a nice night. 
This person would be on the way 

939
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,400
home. 
Be like, I'm just gonna stop in 

940
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,560
the bottle. 
Oh, and grab a bottle of wine. 

941
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,080
I was like. 
Oh no, no, we don't have to. 

942
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:22,000
Do no, Yeah, yeah, exactly. 
And then that drink the whole 

943
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,960
bottle or that's alcoholism. 
Exactly. 

944
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,840
Yeah. 
And I kind of mentioned it and 

945
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:33,960
said in my circles this is not 
really normal behaviour and I 

946
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,800
got in trouble for. 
It Well, yeah, I mean, an 

947
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,080
alcoholic is going to get mad 
that you're calling them an 

948
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,640
alcoholic if they're an 
absolutely normal, Yeah, they're

949
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,440
like, how dare you call 
attention to the elephant in the

950
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,280
room. 
Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

951
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,040
So I found out the hard way, but
whatever. 

952
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:51,960
Do you ever get in trouble with 
friends? 

953
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,840
I know a lot of people. 
Tell them that you'd think 

954
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,120
they're wearing a shitty outfit.
I tell them. 

955
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,760
Yeah, me too it. 
Comes from a good it comes from 

956
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,240
a good place. 
So I don't feel all my friends 

957
00:49:01,240 --> 00:49:05,600
know that I I don't really do 
things from a bad place. 

958
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,040
That's more trying to give them 
good advice. 

959
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,160
Also, like in those situations, 
like I would never give someone 

960
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,280
that advice if I wouldn't want 
it in in like, yeah, yeah. 

961
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,200
You'd want to reverse. 
Yeah, exactly. 

962
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,680
If I wouldn't want it said to 
me, I'm not going to say it, but

963
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,800
if I would, then I'm like and 
listen, majority we got like. 

964
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,280
Exactly. 
And you only have your center of

965
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,880
perspective to yourself. 
You want advice because they 

966
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,960
have different perspectives. 
So isn't that completely valid? 

967
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,360
And if you're asking, I'm giving
you a whole different 

968
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,680
perspective to take into 
consideration. 

969
00:49:37,720 --> 00:49:40,640
Yeah, it's tricky though, 
because I tend to treat people 

970
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,720
as I would want to be treated. 
But I have learned that 

971
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,000
everybody wants to be treated in
their own specific way. 

972
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,760
And so that's what's 
interesting. 

973
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,440
And with long term friendships, 
it's really easy because you 

974
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,880
know, like this one's a real 
sensitive, so I can't say this 

975
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,280
and da da da, otherwise she's 
going to cry every day or 

976
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,120
whatever. 
Or, you know, you kind of have 

977
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:04,280
everybody locked down. 
But with a new friendship, it's 

978
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,120
always tricky because you're 
like. 

979
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,120
You've got to navigate it and 
being in bands and everything 

980
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,680
you're you've got relationships 
with so many people and you're 

981
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,520
making something together. 
So the conversation, sometimes 

982
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,480
they're are cooked. 
It's like a cut throat and 

983
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:25,520
you're saying like your point of
view and it's so heated, but you

984
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,360
just have to do. 
It and then God forbid that 

985
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,360
person isn't taking it, then 
everybody gangs up. 

986
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,880
It's just better to just take, 
take the advice and hear it and 

987
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,560
like sit on it. 
Oh my God, bands are so messy. 

988
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,320
That's like trickier than a 
relationship. 

989
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,800
There, Yeah. 
And I'm in one of my bands. 

990
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,120
I'm one of five, and they're 
all. 

991
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,360
There's another queer, the other
singers are queer male. 

992
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,440
And then they're all straight 
boys as well. 

993
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,560
So it's like, come on. 
So you have an EP out. 

994
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,560
Yeah, the EP itself is like a 
whole concept. 

995
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,720
It's like psychosis. 
The music, the genre and 

996
00:50:59,720 --> 00:51:01,840
everything. 
Some of the songs are already 

997
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,120
out. 
It's as if I've gone into a 

998
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:11,000
mental state of delusion and 
psychosis and I've gone to a 

999
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,520
mental hospital. 
And the opening track is like 

1000
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:19,960
this whole it's almost like a 
film score kind of movie through

1001
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:21,800
music. 
Have you been in psychosis 

1002
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,480
before? 
Drug induced psychosis. 

1003
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,560
Yeah, OK, cool. 
So you know about psychosis? 

1004
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:26,680
Yeah. 
Yeah, OK, Same. 

1005
00:51:26,720 --> 00:51:29,960
Same. 
It's not fun, but you don't know

1006
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,120
what's happening at the time, 
Yeah. 

1007
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,840
And have you ever been sent away
to an institution? 

1008
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,520
A lot of my friends have. 
And lovers. 

1009
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:44,480
I I feel I've been in very like 
regimented psychology, like 

1010
00:51:44,720 --> 00:51:47,520
because my mental health has 
been a bit wibbly woo. 

1011
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:51,240
So I've had to like go through 
times where it's very intense 

1012
00:51:51,240 --> 00:51:54,720
psych, but never to. 
The only institution was the 

1013
00:51:54,720 --> 00:52:00,200
Australian Institute Institution
of Sport and that was like a 

1014
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,200
different type of institution. 
What do you what do you do to 

1015
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:04,920
get your mental health right 
these days? 

1016
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:09,880
I know my go to's which is like 
staying on top of like what 

1017
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:11,680
makes me feel good and brings me
joy. 

1018
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:15,320
So I love training. 
So I have to keep the the gym 

1019
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:20,160
and like my exertion of energy 
like out and that keeps my 

1020
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:24,160
mental health really stable. 
I like to walk and listen to 

1021
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:29,280
music and make music and write 
and then seeing friends. 

1022
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,720
Friends can bring your mood and 
elevate you so much. 

1023
00:52:32,720 --> 00:52:35,560
When you're having a like a 
depressive feeling like you 

1024
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,000
don't want to see anyone's 
cause, soon as you see a good 

1025
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,160
friend or someone that brings 
your energy up, you're like. 

1026
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,480
Recharge is. 
So much better. 

1027
00:52:42,720 --> 00:52:47,040
This was really fun and having 
lots of avenues that you your 

1028
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:51,600
life builds from. 
So if you're so fixated on just 

1029
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:56,400
your work and like your partner 
and that's your whole world, 

1030
00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:00,640
they're two streams. 
And so if one goes bad, you only

1031
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,680
have one stream to get your 
mental health on track. 

1032
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:07,120
But if you have like 10 streams 
that you can pull from. 

1033
00:53:07,240 --> 00:53:10,640
So if two streams are going bad,
you have like 8 other streams 

1034
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,640
that build you. 
The highs and the lows balance. 

1035
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,200
Each other out yeah, yeah, yeah 
that's. 

1036
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,000
Actually really good advice. 
I I believe in that too. 

1037
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,640
Having multiple streams of 
happiness or like you know, joy.

1038
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:22,320
Joy sourcing. 
Yeah. 

1039
00:53:22,720 --> 00:53:27,000
And that way you can suck from 
each teat and if one goes down. 

1040
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,840
Yeah, you have like, yeah, you 
have foundation, Yeah. 

1041
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,520
A lot of utters. 
That's so important. 

1042
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:35,080
I think everyone should be 
taking up more hobbies as they 

1043
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,560
get older as well and just 
finding new things that bring 

1044
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:43,560
joy and and try to keep so much 
happening and always expands and

1045
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:47,760
always learn and always grow. 
Because if you make your world 

1046
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,360
small, your mental. 
It's a recipe for disaster. 

1047
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,600
Exactly, Yeah. 
So the EP is about your 

1048
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:56,640
psychosis or yeah, putting 
yourself into a psychosis. 

1049
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:01,440
A whole journey type of thing 
of, yeah, me reaching out to my 

1050
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,880
producer and being like, I want 
to write a EP. 

1051
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:08,160
And then it goes into like this 
kind of like psychosisy state to

1052
00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:12,520
prep you for like the songs. 
And because I've got a goth 

1053
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,160
industrial band I used to have 
and then I've got like this pop 

1054
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,480
punk band and I've always played
music and been in bands but 

1055
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,680
never done solo stuff. 
So this kind of like builds this

1056
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:25,120
whole genre. 
And if you know me, the genre 

1057
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:29,920
like kind of flows through the 
music because it's just a scale 

1058
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:33,840
of so many different genres 
meshed in. 

1059
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:39,640
But I also think that's my vibe.
You're a fucktown vibe of mixed 

1060
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,960
vibe. 
Yeah, like even how you dress 

1061
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,480
and your expression. 
Some days I, I feel like I'm 

1062
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,480
just gonna rinse the black and 
be like hyper goth, whatever. 

1063
00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:52,200
But then some days I'm like, I'm
gonna just wear all blue. 

1064
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,440
You do all blue. 
Yes, sometimes I just. 

1065
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:55,320
Wear them up, out. 
There. 

1066
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:56,240
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Wow. 

1067
00:54:56,240 --> 00:54:57,960
You never know what you're gonna
get, OK? 

1068
00:55:00,240 --> 00:55:04,880
So yeah, I just think like music
is like emotions and weather, 

1069
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,640
like they come and flow through 
you, and you just have to like, 

1070
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:11,040
let it, let it be and take on 
whatever that is. 

1071
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,840
And fashions like that too. 
You have a great fashion sense, 

1072
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,280
I have to say. 
Thank you, that means so much. 

1073
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,440
You do too. 
No, I and I'm very picky and I 

1074
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:25,000
really, really like your fashion
sense. 

1075
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,800
Oh my God. 
I love that thank you style and 

1076
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:32,760
fashion sense I think is 
intuitive too and you have to 

1077
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,640
know how to hold yourself and 
what looks good on you. 

1078
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,560
I think because like rich people
can buy all the designer brands 

1079
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,720
but then they can look like shit
so. 

1080
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:46,000
Yeah, that's the thing though, I
always say money cannot buy you 

1081
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,600
style because I've seen a bunch 
of rich people and they put this

1082
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:53,560
shit on and you're like, yeah, 
it cost $5.00, but it looks like

1083
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:58,320
shit. 
Yeah, yeah, that boots is nasty.

1084
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,400
Yeah, you know. 
It's real. 

1085
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:02,040
No, But that means a lot. 
We. 

1086
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,400
May I ask you? 
Could be an inappropriate 

1087
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,520
question, but I'm going to ask. 
Great. 

1088
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:12,480
So when you're intimate with a 
mate, do you ever puncture them 

1089
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:18,160
with your fangs? 
Because if I had your fangs, and

1090
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:24,640
I'm very much into blood, as our
viewers know, I would, 

1091
00:56:24,720 --> 00:56:28,360
absolutely. 
I get, I get a lot of people 

1092
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,000
asking for me to bite them. 
Yeah. 

1093
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,880
I'm like, yeah, I can give a 
little bite, but I don't draw 

1094
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,720
blood. 
Because you don't want to. 

1095
00:56:35,720 --> 00:56:38,000
No, because it's messy. 
Oh, right. 

1096
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,320
Yeah, and and I don't know. 
What if there was a tarp? 

1097
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:45,000
I will maybe, but I don't know 
how sharp these would go and I 

1098
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,120
don't know how much blood would 
come out. 

1099
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,080
Do you want to try on tips I'm. 
The bite or not the bitey. 

1100
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:54,480
Because they're quite sharp, so.
And what if I hit like a artery 

1101
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:55,840
and you? 
Have to know where you're 

1102
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:57,840
biting. 
You have to be strategic. 

1103
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:02,240
You have to know where you're, 
you know you're punctualized. 

1104
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,400
Ass cheek is probably fair. 
There's probably not a lot of 

1105
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:06,400
blood. 
Leak. 

1106
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,360
No. 
There's blood that leaks there. 

1107
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,120
There's blood for sure. 
I can't no bit. 

1108
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,360
People just ask you that in 
public will be like. 

1109
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:19,840
Yeah, and like a lot of straight
girls will ask just randomly be 

1110
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:24,400
like, Oh my God, you bought me. 
Like not here. 

1111
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:29,640
You're. 
Like in the alley, Yeah. 

1112
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,480
Meet me in the alley, yeah. 
Yeah, I think there's a big 

1113
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,840
thing with like, vampire fetish 
too, Yeah. 

1114
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,000
So people get swooped up with 
that. 

1115
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:38,680
You've never done vampire role 
play. 

1116
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:42,480
No, I just got these fangs 
because my teeth are perfect and

1117
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:46,000
I was like, I want them to be a 
bit more crooked and I think it 

1118
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,880
makes my smile charming. 
I think so too. 

1119
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,760
It absolutely makes it so 
charming, yeah. 

1120
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,960
That's so funny, I can't imagine
going up to someone being like 

1121
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:56,960
wait by me. 
Yeah. 

1122
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,680
People are bold. 
People are really bold fangs. 

1123
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,280
I mean, yeah. 
You know people want it. 

1124
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:03,760
Yeah, 100%. 
They want it bad. 

1125
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:09,480
They want you bad. 
I just think I'm a novelty. 

1126
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:13,000
I know I'm a bit of a meme. 
Like I'm a six foot 4 goth 

1127
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:18,080
looking person who like stands 
out and has fangs. 

1128
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,600
People are like whoa. 
I don't see, I just don't see it

1129
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,760
that way. 
But I think I have weird eyes, 

1130
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,360
you know, I'm just like, oh, I 
like your, your fashion. 

1131
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:27,800
Yeah. 
Well, I think about you're 

1132
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,600
either that side of the fence or
you're the other side of the 

1133
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:31,800
fence. 
I see. 

1134
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,560
People get it and people are 
novelty vibe. 

1135
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,000
People are fanging out more 
though these days, I feel like. 

1136
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:38,720
It's not like you know. 
They are. 

1137
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:40,400
They really are. 
Fangers out there. 

1138
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,840
No, there's lots of fangers. 
Yeah, there's lots of fangers 

1139
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:45,040
out there. 
Fangers. 

1140
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,160
Are fangers, Yeah. 
Fangers and Fang bangers. 

1141
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:52,160
Yeah, I would love to Fang out. 
You should get some. 

1142
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:56,120
You get a grill, I'd be too 
dangerous because I already bite

1143
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:57,360
really hard. 
Yeah. 

1144
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,320
And so if I had fangs it would 
be bad. 

1145
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:06,720
I'd help you hide the bodies. 
So where does 1 procure fangs? 

1146
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,960
At the dentist's office. 
Yeah, my my family dentist. 

1147
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:11,680
You went in and you're like, so 
Ted? 

1148
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:15,800
Well, his name is Clive, Clive. 
Clive. 

1149
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:19,960
He's such a kook and it's in a 
very kind of conservative area. 

1150
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:23,520
He's the family dentist and I 
went in one day and I was just 

1151
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:27,080
like Clive, I want fangs. 
He goes, your mum would kill me 

1152
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:31,040
because we've been going our 
whole lives and I love the 

1153
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,200
dentist. 
I go in every year for my 

1154
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,680
checkup just so he loves it. 
Your teeth are perfect. 

1155
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:40,360
You do all the right things. 
All the like, flossing, I do it 

1156
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,600
all. 
I'm really OCD with the teeth. 

1157
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:46,000
And then I went in and I was 
like teeth, everything. 

1158
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:47,400
OK. 
Just want to be fair here. 

1159
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,920
Yeah, OK. 
And so I went in and I said, 

1160
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,200
come on. 
And he goes, It would be my 

1161
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:57,600
privilege because he's never 
done anything like this and he 

1162
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:00,880
is a kook. 
And he made them and at the 

1163
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,320
start I got them years and years
ago, they were just baby fangs. 

1164
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,800
And then I came in like 8 months
later and I was like, you need 

1165
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:07,760
to make them bigger. 
You need. 

1166
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,680
To grow the fangs. 
Yeah, we need to drop them. 

1167
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:15,000
And now you're can I just ask a 
makeup question because you're 

1168
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:19,160
bawling in full like, you know, 
shadow and this and that, right?

1169
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,400
So how do you get your look long
lasting through sweat? 

1170
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,520
I just love. 
I'm not a big, big sweater. 

1171
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:27,160
OK, so you're a. 
Sweat. 

1172
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:28,920
Still don't sweat. 
I've always said that. 

1173
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:32,440
Yeah, but you've got big sweaty 
size 13 feet. 

1174
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:40,120
OK, Caitlin Dark, please tell 
the people how they can find you

1175
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:41,880
online if they don't already 
know. 

1176
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:47,440
At Cattlepillar, I know it's a 
bad the Instagram, the Instagram

1177
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:51,720
handle thing, but it stems from 
Caterpillar. 

1178
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,400
Big Caterpillar. 
I love it. 

1179
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:59,120
CAITLEPILLAR. 
Amazing. 

1180
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:02,080
Cato Pillar, thank you so much. 
Thank you. 

1181
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:06,920
For coming on to this show, it 
was an extreme ride of pleasure.

1182
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:11,160
Thank you. 
And we always say adios baby 

1183
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:12,120
Jess. 
Adios, baby. 

1184
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:13,040
Adios.
