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We'll now invite our sister, Mrs
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about how she met the Lord Jesus
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Thank you, sister. 
Well, I thank God tonight I can 

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give a word of testimony. 
I thank your minister and 

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session for inviting me along. 
I have to refer first of all to 

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the Word of God where it says in
Romans 1 and chapter chapter 1 

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and verse 16. 
For I'm not ashamed of the 

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Gospel of Christ, for it is the 
power of God unto salvation to 

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everyone that believeth to the 
Jew 1st and then the Greek. 

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And tonight I only stand and 
give a word of testimony because

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of what the Lord Jesus Christ 
has done in my life. 

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I'm a held a servant Sinner 
saved by the grace of God. 

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I was born unto a Roman Catholic
family. 

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If you're ever going from 
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got the Glentian Pass, you'll 
see a road in your right about 

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halfway up the pass called the 
Ranahan Road. 

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And it was on that road that I 
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Our own house had to be tumbled 
to build the Glen Chien Pass. 

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So we went to live with my 
grandfather. 

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Daddy had been an only child. 
Granddad was led to get him back

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home again and whenever he got, 
whenever he asked my father to 

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go back, he, he asked my mother 
and father and three of us. 

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And before Mummy and Daddy was 
finished, there was 10 of us. 

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So you can imagine in a wee tiny
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crowd. 
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family that he placed me in. 
I was placed there by the 

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Providence of God for a purpose.
And none of us choose the family

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we're born into or placed there.
But you will choose where you 

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spend eternity. 
And all I can do tonight is to 

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say to you, choose well and 
choose heaven tonight. 

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I was reared with my grandfather
from an early age. 

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I was about 3 when we moved up 
and I I can remember very 

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clearly my granny, my Granny 
McCluskey, that was my Granda's 

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wife. 
She had died when she was 54 

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with an aneurysm. 
So he was on his own and as I 

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say, he was glad to get us all 
back home again. 

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Now I can say that from my 
earliest memories we were taught

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in the things of Rome in the 
house. 

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Mum and Daddy were devout Roman 
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can remember being made to kneel
around the fire set at night and

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maybe Granddad give out a rosary
or my mumma and daddy and we had

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to answer it. 
I never learnt to pray until the

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night I got saved because all I 
learnt was really a ritual and a

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rhyme and I never really knew 
what it was to talk to the Lord 

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to that night that I got saved. 
I can say that from then on I I 

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was sent to school very young. 
Well, it wasn't sent. 

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Actually. 
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the same day because there's 
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I was at home. 
I was just 3 1/2 coming four 

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years of age, and mummy said I 
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She sent me the next day and 
they kept me and they did their 

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best to educate me. 
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had a good education both in 
primary school and in the next 

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school that I went to. 
But whenever I went to school, 

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when I wasn't taught about Rome 
at home. 

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I was taught in school. 
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sacraments that a Roman Catholic
child had to go through to 

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become a soldier of Christ. 
That included your baptism, your

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first confession, your your 
first communion. 

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It included confirmation and all
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And you know, I thank God 
tonight for the word of God. 

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I didn't know it at the time, 
but I was later to come to know 

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that it says in First Timothy 
chapter 2 and verse 5. 

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For there is one God and one 
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the man Christ. 
Jesus. 

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But I didn't know any better at 
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And I followed after the things 
of Rome. 

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I followed after what I thought 
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And I don't know what you think 
you're following tonight if 

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you're not saved. 
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that is heaven and hell. 
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Lord Jesus Christ, ask him to 
forgive your sins, to make you 

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ready for heaven, you'll never 
be in heaven. 

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But I did what I thought was 
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I followed on and the Roman 
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I remember going to school and 
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Roman Catholic Catechism, which 
is entirely different from the 

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Catechism I adoption to learn 
within our own church now. 

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But at that time I'd left out 
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idols, that one that suited the 
Roman Catholic Church. 

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I just learnt a different 
catechism. 

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I learnt that and then whenever 
I was about 6 years of age. 

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We had to go into confession 
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to give our confessors since the
priest and once we were taught 

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for about 6 months in that way 
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myself did it together because 
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there was a lot of other 
children that last in it as 

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well. 
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enough, the priests would have 
come into the school every 

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weekend questioned us. 
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Saturday afternoon to the Chapel
to have our first confessions 

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heard. 
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Remember sitting as well. 
I was the last child in the Pew.

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Ours was a small country school 
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But that day there was 2 full 
pews of children to make their 

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confessions. 
We were a family of 10. 

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There was a family of 23 in that
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of 22. 
So you can imagine what that was

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like. 
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packed full of children. 
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And, and as we moved along the 
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then next to the confessional 
box, I was that nervous. 

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I forgot everything I'd ever 
been taught. 

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And I remember going on to the 
confessional box and going to 

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see my confessions and I 
couldn't remember one thing I 

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had to say, so I made it up. 
I imagined I might have done 

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these things, so I told them. 
As a priest, I just told more 

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lies. 
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never taught me to tell lies. 
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It was naturally on me because I
was born like the rest of you. 

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I was born with my face towards 
hell and my back towards heaven.

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I was born with the son of Adam 
on me and it was natural for me 

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to son. 
And I went on that day and I 

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told the pile of lies I come out
after he had heard my 

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confessions and he'd given me 
what he talked about absolution.

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And he gave me some prayers to 
see around the Stations of the 

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Cross, which is 14 pictures 
depicting the life of Christ 

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from he was born until he was 
crucified on the walls. 

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And I went down those pictures 
and I prayed as I went around 

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them, and I thought. 
I was doing something to get 

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myself into heaven. 
I don't know what you think 

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you're doing, but think again. 
Anyway, I had the confessions 

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heard and after that the next 
milestone is very soon you make 

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your first communion where 
you're sent along to communion 

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classes again. 
The priest comes in and he put 

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us over the 1st. 
Communion and what it meant and 

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how He would be changing the 
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Christ. 
I didn't know at the time what 

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God's Word says of this, but 
very soon after I got saved, the

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Lord took me to Hebrews chapter 
10 verses 1011 and 12 and it 

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says in Hebrews chapter 10 verse
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Steve, now if I can. 
Write by by the which will your 

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We are sanctified through the 
offering of the body of Christ 

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once for all, and every priest 
standeth daily, ministering and 

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offering often times the same 
sacrifices which can never take 

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away Son. 
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Jesus Christ, after he had 
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forever sat down at the right 
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That tells you very plainly in 
the Word there is only one 

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mediator and that there is only 
one sacrifice that can make a 

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Sinner ready for heaven, and 
that's the Lord Jesus Christ 

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when he shed his blood and 
Calvary. 

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And I think about it now, but at
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Was on the cross, He remembered 
my name. 

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He paid the price for my sins 
and through that I can be saved 

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and go to heaven. 
Anyway, that passed and I made 

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my first communion. 
I took the wafer thinking I was 

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taking the body and blood of the
Lord Jesus Christ into my mouth.

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I really did believe that that 
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Taught to believe and I went on 
on the things of Rome for a 

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number of years the next big 
milestone was coming up to her 

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confirmation and I was coming up
near I think it was nine years 

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of. 
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But there's a lot of things 
happened in my life around that 

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time which I believe the Lord 
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Use to speak to me. 
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there was more and more children
coming into the house, I can 

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remember coming home from school
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We used to walk up the Denshan 
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It was much safer then. 
And we used to walk home and I 

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can remember going into the 
house and there was police in 

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our house and there was never 
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unless they were dropped down by
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This was the late 1960s and into
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It was a very dangerous place. 
Not that I went on home and I 

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wondered what was going on and I
was just fascinated by this 

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whole thing. 
But when I get in, I could find 

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my father in floods of tears. 
And my mother, they see him and 

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I remember saying what's 
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What's happened? 
And my grandfather that we lived

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with had been killed on the 
Valencian Pass that day. 

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We later found out many years 
later he had actually been 

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murdered. 
But it didn't come out for many 

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years. 
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it didn't because it's saved my 
brothers and maybe some of us 

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been involved in things we 
shouldn't have been involved in.

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But I can remember that day 
Grandda had been killed and my 

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father, I looked at him and he 
nearly lost his mind because he 

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was so close to Granddad. 
What had happened was Grandda 

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had been, we had a small farm or
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it was very rushy ground. 
He only could graze cattle and 

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sheep. 
And he took a full time job with

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the DOE. 
It's now called the Department 

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of Social Development, or some. 
Other such name but at that time

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it was the DOE and he was called
a service man. 

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I'm sure some of the older 
people here remember them. 

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They used to keep the drains 
clear and the hedges cut back. 

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We could do with a few of them 
now, I think. 

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But anyway, Grandda had been on 
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He was pushing his bicycle. 
He'd gone into the Chapel, Glenn

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Chapel, and he had said the 
rosary over Granny's grave, and 

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he'd come out onto Glenn Chien 
Pass again, and he was pushing 

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his bike up the hard shoulder. 
And this Land Rover mowed him 

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down and he was killed outright.
And he knew that had a profound 

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effect on our house for very 
many reasons #1 Granddad 

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contributed to the household. 
But we all loved him so much. 

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He was a great old man. 
He was a storyteller and he used

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to keep us entertained with his 
stories and we just loved him to

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bits. 
And there he was gone on an an 

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incident and I can remember 
waiting for him to, there was a 

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whole, he had to go and have a 
postmortem done and all. 

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But eventually they brought the 
coffin home and it was the first

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time I ever really witnessed 
death in the home. 

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I, I know my granny had died 
earlier but I was too weed to 

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understand. 
And they brought Grandda's 

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coffin into the house, which had
to be closed because he was 

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badly damaged. 
But I can remember over those 

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couple of nights a week and 
until the next day when he was 

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being buried, people came into 
the house. 

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The house was packed full of 
folk. 

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And they would have come in, 
they would have left a pound or 

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a fiver on the coffin to have a 
Mass set for granddad. 

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And the priests would have come 
in every night those two nights 

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and lifted all that money and 
took them to see a Mass from a 

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granddad. 
The granddad was dead. 

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You don't pray for the dead. 
We have to pray for our 

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relatives and friends and family
while they're living because 

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when they're dead, the decisions
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Anyway, granddad was buried and 
I often wondered where he was. 

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Even as a child I often 
wondered. 

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Anyway, our home was very much 
changed after that and about six

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months later my granny and 
granddad on my mum said they 

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lived up just about. 
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place called Money, you know, 
I'd say to Ripperstone and 

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Granny had very bad rheumatoid 
arthritis, grandda had very bad 

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bronchitis and grandda took very
ill. 

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You know, my granny was going 
about an hour later. 

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At that stage we I had an uncle 
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He didn't get worried. 
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home at that stage and I can 
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conversation and Granny says I 
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Keep up with the housework and I
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wayans could come up with me, 
come up to me for the weekend 

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and help me out with stuff and 
to do some. 

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Cleaning on that, Well, anybody 
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will understand what I what I 
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order kicks in and the oldest 
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and then the third. 
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Susanna, who's the oldest. 
And they said to her, Susanna, 

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would you go up and stay with 
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Oh no. 
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She thought we were all there to
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wasn't going up. 
So then they came to my sister 

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Bridget and they asked her and 
Bridget was a home bird. 

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She had been away from home and 
I was just sitting praying in my

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childish way that they would ask
me for I wanted out of the house

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for it was that jam packed and 
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the time and I you couldn't get 
a bit of space to yourself 

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really. 
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with granny at weekends I would 
get a bit of space. 

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So they came to me and mummy 
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mummy, I'll go. 
And she says no, you're too E 

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Margaret and I. 
Said Mummy. 

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I have to work around here. 
Sure. 

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I had to get up and had it again
turf and I had a. 

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Chopsticks and had to do the 
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the rest of it. 
I said I could do that with for 

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granny and eventually it was 
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my granny at weekends and on 
school holidays. 

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And I believed the Lord took a 
deal in my life at that stage. 

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Now I still went to school from 
home. 

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I had to behave myself and Uncle
Joe left me off on a Monday 

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morning on his way to his shop 
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Friday evening and I could stay 
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summer holidays with Granny. 
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because I love Granny to bits 
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loved having a room of my own 
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I think it was that selfish. 
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with Granny at weekends, not 
until my granddad McGuigan was 

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taken onto hospital and he died 
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nowadays if he was diagnosed he 
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He just wasted away. 
So Grandda passed away and I can

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remember the wake, his wake as 
well, and I can remember them 

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bringing him home. 
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open. 
And I remember being fascinated 

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looking on the coffin and 
wondering where he was. 

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And I can remember the same 
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McCluskey. 
They came in on the three money 

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onto the coffin and prayed for 
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And they're still praying to 
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And that's futile. 
But anyway, that's that's the 

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custom and I'm not here to 
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People, I'm here to say that we 
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things to get ourselves into 
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And there is no way except the 
Lord Jesus Christ, He's the 

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door. 
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away and Mummy and daddy, our 
mummy and grandma had another 

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discussion and by this time I 
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ten years of age. 
I was to get ready for doing the

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11 plus. 
Susanna had done it and passed 

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it and went to the convent in 
Baker felt Bridget was had done 

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hers and she was just about to 
go to the convent and they came 

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to me and Granny and mummy had a
conversation. 

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You know, my mother always had 
more brains than I gave her 

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credit. 
For. 

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Because she knew if I stayed 
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that hard. 
I liked school, I loved everyday

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I had at it. 
I loved the school dinners, 

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maybe even more, but I loved 
school. 

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But I didn't apply myself the 
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And mum and granny had this 
conversation that they would put

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a card in front of me and they 
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me, if I wanted to stay with my 
granny full time, I had to pass 

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11 plus. 
I hadn't worked for her but I 

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put it in the head and worked 
very hard for three months and 

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past 11 class and I was allowed 
to go to the convent school. 

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Now Mummy's reason behind that 
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Glenshin passed, when the snow 
came up was closed off and we 

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couldn't get to school. 
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now, but if I stayed at my 
Granny's, the school bus stopped

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outside the gate. 
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They had it worked out. 
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my granny full time whenever I 
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Age. 
And I went to the convent. 

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Maker felt now if I thought that
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religious and devout to Roman 
Catholic things, the convent was

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even more so. 
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priests, except for one, we had 
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And I never really got all that 
well with him for I never really

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worked for him. 
So Moham and I were always at 

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loggerheads. 
But when I went to the convent, 

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then that year I was due to make
my confirmation into the Roman 

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Catholic Church. 
And this is where you meet with,

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you do confirmation classes, you
meet with the Bishop, he gives 

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you his blessing and he tells 
you you're now a soldier of 

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Christ. 
And I can remember that event 

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thinking to myself, well, I 
don't feel much like a soldier 

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of Christ. 
And I left the confirmation that

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day and I went home and went on 
about my wages thinking I'll get

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through this, I'll get through 
school and get left and get out 

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to work. 
But God had another, another 

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idea after I lived with Granny 
for that first year for, well, I

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didn't live the whole year with 
her. 

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I lived with her about maybe six
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year. 
And I came home from school the 

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last day and Granny wasn't in 
the house, but my uncle was 

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there and he wasn't supposed to 
be there that day. 

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He was supposed to be actually 
in the shop. 

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He had 1/2 day on a Wednesday, 
but it was on the House that 

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day. 
And I said to him, Joe, where's 

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Granny? 
He says she's in the hospital. 

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Margaret, she's very ill and I 
knew granny had very bad pains. 

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I would allay beside her some 
nights when she wasn't able to 

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get an out of bed herself but I 
didn't realise she was as bad as

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what she was. 
What had actually happened was 

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she had been taking codeine for 
the pain that was the main pain 

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relief at the time and codeine's
a very dangerous drug if it's 

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spilt up in your system and it 
had damaged her kidneys and she 

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went into the hospital and renal
failure. 

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So he says to me that day, go 
you and get your school clothes 

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off and get on your ordinary 
clothes and I'll take you over 

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to the hospital or go over and 
see her. 

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So I rushed off and got my 
clothes, changed my way over to 

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the hospital. 
And I knew when I seen Granny, 

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she wasn't coming out again that
evening. 

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And the next day we sat with 
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During that time the priest came
in and shook holy water over and

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gave out the rosary. 
And we answered him and he gave 

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her the last rites. 
But the third day I, I sat 

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beside her in the evening and 
she went out and he turned to 

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crying. 
No assurance of heaven. 

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And I remember thinking if that 
priest couldn't help my granny, 

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he's never going to help me, for
I'll never be as good as her. 

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And God started to use that to 
make me question in my childish 

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mind what was going on here. 
I can remember going home from 

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the hospital and then the coffin
came home afterwards and it was 

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the same performance. 
The priest was in and out of the

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house. 
They were paying to get Masses 

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said and given on mass cards. 
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well, if you couldn't help my 
granny, you're not going to help

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me. 
And after Granny was buried, I 

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went up to the same Chapel, but 
I never went back near 

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confessions because I thought he
did nothing for my granny. 

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Now I thought I made that 
decision, but God was starting 

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to take the scales off my eyes 
even at that age. 

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I continued on loving with my 
uncle and looking after him, or 

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I could see he looked after me 
for the first year or two. 

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He had a rough, he had a rough, 
a rough menu with me. 

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I can tell you I had to learn to
cook for Granny, did most of the

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cooking. 
I did the carrion but he put up 

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with me and he was very gracious
to me through that time. 

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I worked on through school and 
then on the summer holidays I 

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had to help them in the shop 
some days or did the housework. 

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My mummy, very mummy and daddy 
very much had to say in my life 

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what was happening. 
But I enjoyed school. 

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I didn't really put my head down
and learn the way I should at 

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the convent either, although 
there was a good education to be

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had if you took it. 
But I went through that school 

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until it was time to decide what
I was going to do with my life. 

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15 1/2 I had to decide what I 
was going to do next. 

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If I didn't get my GCSE or GC ES
were at that time or I forgot 

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them, what I was going to do. 
And I knew there was very little

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hope of me getting all I needed.
So we had a careers day and we 

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had to prepare for that. 
And my careers teacher was a nun

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called Sister Anne. 
And I can remember her taking me

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in that day. 
The parents were coming over in 

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the evening and she interviewed 
us all that day, throughout the 

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day. 
And she says, Margaret, what do 

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you want to do with your life? 
I said I want to be a 

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policewoman. 
I always wanted to be in the 

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police, although there was never
any police about ours. 

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The reason I had an interest in 
the police was Uncle Joe sold 

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guns and ammunition in the shop.
He sold Wallpapers and paints, 

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and then he sold guns and 
ammunition legally. 

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I have to say there was a lot of
illegal guns around that area, 

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but Uncle Joe was very straight 
and he would have sold them for 

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clay pigeon shooting or duck 
shooting or pheasant shooting. 

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And I've always been interested 
in that. 

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And whenever they were going out
to clay pigeon shoots, we were 

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done out with them and they all,
we all had a wee gun and we 

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would have been shooting. 
And I can remember thinking I 

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would love to be a policewoman. 
Because I would have a gun in 

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the uniform and all that shows 
you the what I had at that age. 

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A very dangerous time in 
Northern Ireland where people 

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were losing their lives through 
illegal means and through 

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terrorism. 
But anyway, I can remember 

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saying that to the nonman, she 
says to me does. 

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Urani know who you want to be 
and I says no, I never discussed

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it, but I knew that look at her,
she was going to discuss it with

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them. 
And that evening Mum and Daddy 

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came in and Daddy sat down and 
took off his wee flat cap and 

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Margaret respected the nun and 
before he got open his mouth she

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says to him and your daughter's 
going to be a policewoman. 

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He says I don't think so. 
She'll get us all shot. 

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He says she'll be a nurse like 
them other parents, she'll like 

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it. 
This was my two sisters who had 

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already decided nursing. 
So my career was chosen by my 

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father, by the grace of God. 
Because it was. 

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There I was to hear about God's 
word and God's way of salvation.

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I didn't know that at the time 
but anyway I was decided I would

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go to the Tech in September and 
as there was such a small chance

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of me being able to pass all the
exams I needed, I would go and 

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do a pre nursing course at the 
Tech. 

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And God took me to the Tech in 
1975 and Mackrefelt, Mackrefelt 

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Technical College. 
And it was the first time I've 

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been in Mack School, but it was 
also the first time I knew there

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was such a thing as been saved. 
I didn't know. 

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I never had heard tell of it in 
my life. 

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And the first day in the class, 
there was this girl and she was 

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wearing a sweet tiny badge. 
And I took a wee look at it to 

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see what it said. 
And it said, Jesus saves. 

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And I can remember saying to a 
girl that was had come from the 

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convent bus me, what does that 
badge mean? 

444
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,320
And she says, well, Margaret, 
don't go near those boys because

445
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,600
they're Bible thumpers. 
They're very dangerous people. 

446
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,720
Stay away from them. 
We had been reared among the IRA

447
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,160
and this was the dangerous 
person. 

448
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,720
But anyway, I watched that girl 
for the nine months of that 

449
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,240
course and I can tell you her 
testimony spoke loud and clear 

450
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,320
to me before ever she spoke a 
word to me about the Lord Jesus 

451
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,280
Christ. 
I was able to see that her 

452
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,920
language was different from 
mine, her behaviour was 

453
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,760
different, her walk and her 
demeanour was different from 

454
00:22:39,120 --> 00:22:42,480
from mine. 
By that I mean that whenever we 

455
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,320
went on to to open her school 
books, I just rushed her head 

456
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,520
and opened my school books and 
she would have bowed her head 

457
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,960
and said a word of prayer. 
Not in an exhibition kind of 

458
00:22:50,120 --> 00:22:53,600
exhibitionist kind of way, but 
in a very quiet and godly way. 

459
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,520
She opened her books and she 
prayed over them. 

460
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,600
Whenever we went for lunch and 
the rest of us would have been 

461
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,760
eating like mad, she would have 
been sitting with her knee, head

462
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,920
bowed and saying a word of grace
before she had a bite teeth. 

463
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,840
And then when we went on to do 
exams, I would have watched her 

464
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,520
and she would have been saying a
word of prayer before she opened

465
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:11,480
the exam. 
Booklet. 

466
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,520
And her walk really does speak 
to me. 

467
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,120
I knew she had something I 
didn't have anyway. 

468
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,840
I don't remember ever having a 
long conversation with her, and 

469
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,040
I don't know that she ever knew 
the impact she had in my life, 

470
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,880
but she'll know in eternity. 
I watched her and I throughout 

471
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,840
that whole nine months, and she 
really doesn't make an impact on

472
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,040
me. 
At the end of those nine months,

473
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:39,080
we had to do a series of exams. 
I was called the DC test. 

474
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,800
It was kind of like a zoped up 
11 plus. 

475
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,400
And if you pass this, you could 
get on to do nursing. 

476
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,960
So I worked and I passed the 
exam and that we had to apply 

477
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,560
for nursing, just not last 
month. 

478
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:53,240
And I had applied to do mental 
handicapped nursing. 

479
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,240
It was called at the time, it's 
now called intellectual 

480
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,440
disability, but it was called 
mental handicap nursing. 

481
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,680
My two sisters general nursing, 
which is now called adult 

482
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,960
nursing. 
But I wanted to work with people

483
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,440
with special needs. 
We had a neighbour and he had 

484
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,160
special needs and he always 
interested me and God drew me in

485
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,600
that direction. 
I did the exam and I got word 

486
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,880
I'd passed it. 
I got word the next day that I 

487
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,840
had been accepted unto Muckamore
Abbey to do my training as a 

488
00:24:20,360 --> 00:24:23,360
mental handicapped nurse. 
And I got word the following day

489
00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:26,960
to say I could go to Muckerfelt 
to train with my two sisters who

490
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,320
were general trained and my 
father because I had got the 

491
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:31,600
letter first from Muckamore 
Abbey. 

492
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,320
He says you make up your mind 
and he'd have been happier with 

493
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,920
me going to Muckrafelt, but I 
felt drawn to go to Mucklemore 

494
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,800
Abbey Hospital to train as a 
nurse. 

495
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,080
And you know, that was the start
of the Lord speaking to me at 

496
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,120
the tech. 
I can remember starting at 

497
00:24:46,120 --> 00:24:49,160
Mucklemore Abbey in July of 
1976. 

498
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:54,360
And from the day I went on and 
and not July, God took a deal 

499
00:24:54,360 --> 00:24:58,040
with me that I wasn't going to 
miss and I have to see here 

500
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,040
tonight. 
God sought me and He bought me 

501
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,280
by His redeeming love. 
I didn't seek the Lord, He 

502
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,080
sought me. 
And I'll say to you tonight, if 

503
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,840
you're here and you've had the 
opportunity of coming to a Bible

504
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,280
teaching church and a Bible 
preaching church, then God has 

505
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,200
been gracious and merciful to 
you and long-suffering towards 

506
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,840
you and He is seeking you. 
So listen to Him when He does 

507
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:25,240
seek you. 
Anyway, I went that day and the 

508
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,080
Sunday mummy and daddy left me 
off. 

509
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,960
He left me into this wee room. 
It was just a wee single bedroom

510
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,400
with a single bed, bedside 
locker, a wee desk and chair, a 

511
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,560
wash hand basement and a 
wardrobe. 

512
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,800
And I started to put away all my
stuff. 

513
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,480
Not that I hadaway a lot, but I.
Hung up my. 

514
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,320
Crucifix and I put out my rosary
beads and I put out my purple. 

515
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,800
And just as I was doing that, my
door got a knock and I answered 

516
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,240
the door and it was this girl 
was standing on the other side 

517
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,280
of the door. 
She'd been a wee bit older than 

518
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,440
me, but I I remember thinking, 
who's she now? 

519
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,560
And she says you're Margaret. 
She read the name of the door. 

520
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,520
She says, I'm just saying hello 
to everybody. 

521
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,680
I'm giving out. 
I have something for you. 

522
00:26:05,120 --> 00:26:07,520
And I says, what is it? 
She says a gospel tract. 

523
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,640
Now I I didn't even know what a 
gospel tract was. 

524
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,200
That's how ignorant I was. 
And I says to her, what is it? 

525
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,400
And she says, Margaret, it tells
you the way of salvation. 

526
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,640
It tells you about the Lord 
Jesus Christ and how he paid the

527
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,080
price for your son. 
And she looked up and she saw, 

528
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,640
she saw the crucifix. 
And she says, do you know that 

529
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,080
the Lord Jesus Christ stayed in 
the cross for your sons, for you

530
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:33,240
to get you into heaven? 
While I was raging at her, I 

531
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,520
could have boxed her ears. 
I remember looking at her and 

532
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,920
thinking, she thinks that I'm an
ignorant, weak girl from the top

533
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,880
of the Lensian pass. 
But Sharon was very gracious and

534
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,560
she said, I'm just going to 
leave these gospel tracts here 

535
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,280
with you and you take your time 
and read them. 

536
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,760
And she says, explain the way of
salvation and remember Jesus 

537
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,480
died for you. 
And I remember her going out and

538
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,720
she said to me going out the 
door, my bedroom, she said, 

539
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,240
Margaret, I'll see you tomorrow 
when we start in the School of 

540
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,240
Nursing. 
And I remember thinking not if I

541
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:06,080
see you first. 
And I can honestly say I purpose

542
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,600
in my heart I would stay away 
from her. 

543
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,920
The next morning we were to 
start in the School of Nursing 

544
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,040
for eight weeks. 
I knew nobody, only Sharon who 

545
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,880
had just met. 
I can remember going up in the 

546
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,040
morning for my breakfast. 
We weren't allowed to cook in 

547
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,600
the nurses homes because there 
have been too many people 

548
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,280
starting up fires on them trying
to cook. 

549
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,640
So we were told to eat up in the
canteen and I went up to the 

550
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,800
canteen for about to eat and for
breakfast time at half six and 

551
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,440
there was Sharon Sutton. 
I thought I'm never going to get

552
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,840
away from her and how true that 
was. 

553
00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:37,200
I can remember going over that 
day to the School of Nursing 

554
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,680
after breakfast and there's a 
crowd of us. 

555
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,040
There were 32 started in our 
group and the 32 people were 

556
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,600
going on to the School of 
Nursing lecture hall. 

557
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,040
And I remember thinking where's 
she going to sit? 

558
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,200
And I sat and I watched or stood
and watched. 

559
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,680
When she sat down and I sat at 
the opposite side of the room. 

560
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,640
I could keep an eye on her but 
it was far enough away from her 

561
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,480
so she couldn't speak to me. 
But I, and I remember I did that

562
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,560
nearly every day I was in that 
School of Nursing and there for 

563
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,960
8 weeks there wasn't a day I 
didn't meet her at breakfast. 

564
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,200
There wasn't a day I didn't have
to walk to the School of Nursing

565
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,080
with her. 
There wasn't a day I hadn't to 

566
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,640
walk home with her. 
And every one of those days she 

567
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,440
had a word in season. 
You see, she had learnt the 

568
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,360
scriptures as a child and she 
had hid them in her heart. 

569
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,000
And without carrying her Bible 
with her, she was able to quote 

570
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,800
God's word to me. 
And I, I hadn't a word to go 

571
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,800
back to her with. 
We had a Bible in our house. 

572
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,320
We had a do version of the 
Bible, but we weren't allowed to

573
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,680
bring it down and read it unless
the priest was in the house to 

574
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,400
tell us what it meant. 
We were too ignorant. 

575
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,280
And that's the way we were 
taught that we weren't smart 

576
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:38,800
enough to interpret the word of 
God. 

577
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,960
And yet God says in his word 
that a man know a full. 

578
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:46,480
Shall not err thereon. 
Anyway, Sharon made sure I heard

579
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,000
the word of God. 
She made sure she gave me 

580
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,320
tracks. 
She gave Me 2 tracks in 

581
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,680
particular that had a an 
unpacked to me. 

582
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,120
And one was called the Catholic 
Bible has the answer. 

583
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,160
Near the front of it, there was 
a picture of the Pope. 

584
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,920
So I took it over, of course. 
And the other one said the 

585
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,920
priest was an ill Prince in his 
hands. 

586
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,360
And I took that offer because it
tied in with what I believed, I 

587
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,440
thought. 
But when I read it, I knew very 

588
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,520
well that you needed to be saved
for those eight weeks anyway. 

589
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,040
As I say, I was tortured. 
And as the weeks went on, I kept

590
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,320
thinking she's a pick against 
Roman Catholic people. 

591
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,440
But I watched her and she spoke 
to the Protestants that were in 

592
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,040
the class. 
She spoke to the tutors who were

593
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,760
teaching us. 
She would have give them tracks.

594
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,440
Any of the patients that we came
in contact with that had 

595
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,200
understanding, she gave them a 
track. 

596
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,840
So I couldn't really have got 
her on discrimination. 

597
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,760
She spoke to everybody, but I 
can remember coming up near the 

598
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,000
end of those eight weeks in 
school, we get kitted out in her

599
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,440
uniform. 
And we thought that day, just 

600
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,200
the week we were going to 
finish, that we were nurses when

601
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,320
we got a uniform on us and we 
knew nothing, but we had this 

602
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,200
uniform on us and we came back 
to the School of Nursing to see 

603
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,840
which ward we were being sent to
the next week for a 12 week 

604
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,640
placement. 
And I went into that School of 

605
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,840
Nursing hall and I looked at the
list. 

606
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,400
I didn't look for myself. 
I looked to see where Sharon was

607
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,280
going and then I looked for I 
was going. 

608
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:08,880
Would I be far enough away from 
her? 

609
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,680
At that time there was 1200 beds
in Mucklemore and it was a good 

610
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,800
hospital and I can remember 
looking Sharon was going to C8 

611
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,200
and then I looked for I was, I 
was going to C9 and there were 

612
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,400
like 2 semi detached wards, both
together. 

613
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,160
So it meant I had to see her in 
the morning going to work, had 

614
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:26,440
to see her in the evening coming
home. 

615
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,680
But then I figured out in my 
head at least when I get into 

616
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,240
that ward I can lock the door. 
We had to lock the doors because

617
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,680
there were some of the patients 
not able to maintain their own 

618
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,560
safety. 
So I thought when I get the door

619
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,240
locked, she's outside it and 
I'll get peace. 

620
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,240
All day. 
I didn't realise how powerful 

621
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,840
God is. 
I remember walking over that 

622
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,080
first day with Sharon and she 
says to me, I'll be praying for 

623
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,200
you today, that it all goes well
for you. 

624
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,520
And I remember going to locking 
the door and think, well at 

625
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,480
least I'll be talking to you 
throughout the day now. 

626
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,080
Well, the first task I was sent 
to do that morning, we sat on a 

627
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,960
handover and I was sent to wash 
the patients. 

628
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,240
We called them patients. 
We were sent to watch the 

629
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,040
patients and get them up from 
bed, just like home. 

630
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,320
I did for me, 9 brothers and 
sisters or me, seven of them 

631
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,520
that were below me and I was 
sick of it. 

632
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,120
So I was doing the same now when
I went to be a nurse and that 

633
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,000
was no better, I thought, and I 
was writing grumpy at that 

634
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,160
stage. 
After I'd finished that, then 

635
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,600
they sent me to put away the 
laundry. 

636
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,840
Laundry for 12 in our house was 
bad enough, but laundry for 32 

637
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,480
patients was far worse. 
So anyway, I had this big basket

638
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,520
of laundry and they sent me up 
to the laundry room, up the 

639
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,840
stairs again. 
You had to open the door with a 

640
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,480
key and lock it again when you 
went on to it. 

641
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,800
But I was just on the door and I
felt a presence behind me. 

642
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,760
And I turned round and this girl
standing behind me and she had a

643
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,280
second stripe on her hat. 
So I knew that she was a year 

644
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,040
ahead of me. 
And I said to her, hello. 

645
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,680
And she says, I, I'm up to help 
you with the laundry. 

646
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,000
I said, I'm glad to hear it. 
And she says my name's Mary 

647
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,000
Orange memory had to be a 
Protestant was a name like that.

648
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,200
But she was a born again 
Christian. 

649
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,680
And she had me locking the 
laundry, doing the patients 

650
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,760
laundry. 
And as we put away the laundry 

651
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,840
that day, she told me my need of
salvation. 

652
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,280
And I thought I can't get away 
from these people. 

653
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,920
Of course my conscience was 
checking me. 

654
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,280
And she said the same as what 
Charon said about my need of 

655
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,520
salvation and how Christ had 
died in the cross. 

656
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,800
She was very faithful and she 
chatted all the whole time. 

657
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,800
We must have took us about an 
hour and a half and I had the 

658
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,040
gospel for an hour and a half. 
Anyway, that passed and I 

659
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,000
thought, well, if I can get into
the war without Sharon, fine and

660
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,480
me, and if I can get onto a 
different shift from Mary, I'll 

661
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,760
be alright. 
But when Mary wasn't on shift, 

662
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,440
there was another girl called 
Elizabeth Atchison, and 

663
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:45,480
Elizabeth was a Christian yearn 
and born again, and she was a 

664
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,120
Brethren girl. 
I didn't know what the Brethren 

665
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,240
was, but I knew that she was 
different. 

666
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:55,440
So whenever Mary and Sharon and 
Elizabeth had finished with me 

667
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,040
throughout the day, I was 
exhausted. 

668
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,400
But I certainly knew that I 
needed to be saved. 

669
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,960
I knew how to be saved and why I
needed to be saved. 

670
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,160
And I often wonder in my daily 
life when I kneel down at night 

671
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,760
to thank God for the day that 
I've had. 

672
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,320
Have I missed out on what 
listened to people? 

673
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,440
They never missed out on what 
listened to me. 

674
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,440
Anyway, that went on for 12 
weeks. 

675
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:21,280
I had eight weeks of charter 
school, 12 weeks on the ward. 

676
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,880
And my head was a bit boiled by 
that stage because I had tracks 

677
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:29,920
coming out of my ears. 
I had gospel pieces of gospel 

678
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,440
literature that other booklets 
that Charn had given me, Charn 

679
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,680
had given me a Bible as well. 
And I thought, look, if I can 

680
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,360
ever get finished here 
Christmas, I'll get away home 

681
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,160
and I'll get my head charred 
over the Christmas holidays and 

682
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:46,160
at least that'll ease off a bit.
But the Lord had another plan 

683
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,680
for me. 
I can remember coming. 

684
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,360
We had a wee booklet called the 
pupil nurse booklet. 

685
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,840
You had to have signed off that 
you you were competent to 

686
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,440
complete some tasks as a nurse 
and we had to get the charge 

687
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,600
nurse or the sister of the ward 
to fill that out. 

688
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,880
And the weekend I was finishing 
on the ward, there's a whole big

689
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,680
racket on the ward because they 
were renovating the whole place 

690
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,199
in Muckamore at that time. 
It had been built I think in 

691
00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:10,440
1959 and it was a bit 
dilapidated. 

692
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,719
So they were starting to 
renovate and fix the wards and 

693
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,960
there was a crowd of joiners who
had come into the ward to change

694
00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:22,199
all the wood and fix it up. 
And I can remember for by all of

695
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:24,520
this going on, I was going to be
coming 18 years of age the 

696
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,560
following February. 
This was November and I was 

697
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,440
hoping I would find a boyfriend 
soon. 

698
00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:32,760
And I can remember thanking one 
of the joiners that was in. 

699
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,560
It was quite a nice chap and I 
would like to keep speaking to 

700
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,679
him but I never got the 
opportunity during those weeks. 

701
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,679
I was that busy. 
And I thought to myself, well, 

702
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,320
if it's not to be, it's not to 
be. 

703
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,800
That day I left on my my book to
Marty Holmes, who was the charge

704
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,040
nurse. 
And I said to Marty, can you 

705
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,760
fill that out for me, Marty? 
And I'll go through it with you 

706
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,920
what I've done and you can sign 
me off. 

707
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,240
And he says, well, I haven't 
time the day, Margaret, but come

708
00:34:57,240 --> 00:34:59,160
back tomorrow and I'll get it 
done for you tomorrow. 

709
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:00,680
He had meetings in the 
afternoon. 

710
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,760
I said, that's OK. 
And as I was going off the word 

711
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,240
that day, I was a bit grumpy on 
it. 

712
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,160
And I remember going out and 
thinking, never got speaking to 

713
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,720
that joiner, never got my book 
filled. 

714
00:35:09,720 --> 00:35:12,280
And I'm going to be way behind. 
I've always liked things done on

715
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,680
time and I was going off the 
ward and who did I catch the 

716
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,440
sight of in the corner of my eye
but Sharon? 

717
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,840
I thought not today, I can't 
take it today. 

718
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,880
But I remember I also caught 
sight of my other two friends 

719
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:27,080
who were finishing that day as 
well in the ward, and Bruna and 

720
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,560
Anne. 
And they come run over next to 

721
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,080
me and we were chatting away and
Sharon just caught up with us as

722
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,320
quickly and she, of course, she 
was witnessing to us. 

723
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,240
And I just was at scunner to the
whole thing. 

724
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,240
I said to her, I said something 
smart to her. 

725
00:35:40,240 --> 00:35:43,920
I can't remember what it was. 
And I remember her stopping dead

726
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,240
while we were walking and we all
stopped and she said, Margaret, 

727
00:35:47,240 --> 00:35:49,680
I want to say something to you. 
Don't you mock God? 

728
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,520
You can see what you like about 
me, but God's Nora's word is not

729
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,080
mocked. 
And I knew in my heart what I 

730
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,600
had been doing was wrong. 
We were taught to respect other 

731
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,120
people's religion. 
We were taught not to mock 

732
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,320
people. 
But there I was doing it just 

733
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,000
because I was a bit thrown that 
day. 

734
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,040
And I can remember her saying to
me, I want the three of you 

735
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,160
girls to come to the nurses 
fellowship in the and and hear 

736
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,320
the gospel, and then I'm going 
to leave his alone. 

737
00:36:15,720 --> 00:36:17,480
And for a split second I 
thought, well, that would get 

738
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,280
rid of her. 
Wondered, you know, sometimes 

739
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,720
whenever you're on saved and 
you're asked out to a meet and 

740
00:36:21,720 --> 00:36:23,600
you've got to please somebody 
and you think that's going to 

741
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,200
keep them quiet. 
Well, I thought that. 

742
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,840
And then the next thought that 
came into my head, I can't do 

743
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,400
that. 
And I turned around and I said 

744
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,480
to Sharon, we can't do that 
because I love to go on to it as

745
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,640
a son for Roman Catholic to, to 
come to a Protestant church. 

746
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,040
And she says, well, Margaret, 
you'll be fine then because in 

747
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,280
the School of Nursing you just 
spent eight weeks in it. 

748
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,480
I thought she has me every way. 
And anyway, we thought, well, to

749
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,240
get rid of her that day, we'll 
say I will go on the Monday 

750
00:36:49,240 --> 00:36:51,320
night. 
I'd been intending to go home at

751
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,640
the weekend, but we said we 
would go and we got rid of her 

752
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,320
then. 
And I had every intention of 

753
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,400
making up an excuse or saying I 
was going home. 

754
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,760
But it turned out that I didn't 
get away home the next day. 

755
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,440
I went over to the ward to get 
my book filled out and Marty 

756
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,040
brought me and went over a few 
bits and pieces and signed them 

757
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,760
off for me and I had to do 
something that delayed me going 

758
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,840
home that weekend and I decided 
then I would go to the nurses 

759
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,840
fellowship with Anne and Brunnan
the Monday night. 

760
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,240
Anyway, as I was going back off 
the ward that day, I went back 

761
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,040
to the school, back to the the 
nurses homes and I was packing 

762
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,720
up my clothes to go home for 
Christmas to get everything 

763
00:37:29,720 --> 00:37:31,440
ready. 
I thought I'd get a fast escape 

764
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:32,920
on Monday night whenever I'm 
finished. 

765
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,080
And my door got a knock again. 
And I answered the door and 

766
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,520
there was the joiner standing 
there. 

767
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,440
And I thought this was great. 
He's over. 

768
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,680
He asked me out. 
And he says to me, Margaret, I 

769
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,880
asked Marty Holmes your name. 
And I asked him where you 

770
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,400
stayed. 
And I hope you don't mind me 

771
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:50,960
coming to your room. 
And I says, no, that's all 

772
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,880
right. 
And he says, well, I have 

773
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,920
something to ask you. 
And I was getting pretty 

774
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,680
excited. 
And he says, I want to ask you, 

775
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,360
do you know that you need to be 
saved? 

776
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,760
I thought they're coming out of 
the woodwork. 

777
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,880
I couldn't get rid of them. 
I thought, the Lord has swept 

778
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,520
all those Christians up and put 
them on to Mucklemore anyway. 

779
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,120
I thought to myself, you're nice
enough, but that'll do that. 

780
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,320
And I got rid of them as quickly
as I could and I thought, well, 

781
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,800
that's not to be. 
I waited until the Monday 

782
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,240
evening and Bruna and Anne and I
had a conversation and we'll go 

783
00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:24,120
along and see what these boys 
done and at least we would get a

784
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:28,040
laugh. 
And on the Monday night of last 

785
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:32,080
weekend in November of that 
year, last week of November, we 

786
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,160
went along to the Nurses 
Christian Fellowship. 

787
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,680
And I hadn't a clue what went on
in the meeting, but we've done 

788
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,280
that. 
And there was about 12 people 

789
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,400
including us in the room and 
they were sitting in a semi 

790
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,880
circle. 
And I sat down and I said to 

791
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,360
her, I wonder what goes on, I'm 
here. 

792
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:48,880
And she says, well, you're about
to find out. 

793
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,200
So Sharon got up and she had the
Bible on her hand and she said 

794
00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:55,440
first things, you never start a 
meeting with an apology. 

795
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:56,880
But she says I have to 
apologise. 

796
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:01,160
The pastor was to come tonight 
from Elam is not able to come 

797
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,120
into chart trouble or something,
but she says I'm going to read 

798
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,160
God's word to you and I thought 
to myself, well, this is going 

799
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,120
to be a laugh if nothing else. 
Sharon's going to preach. 

800
00:39:11,240 --> 00:39:14,640
She went to our Bible and jump 
into John chapter 3 and verse 16

801
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,120
and you'll all know it, I'm sure
from your youth and the first 

802
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:19,800
time I heard that verse of 
Scripture. 

803
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,360
For God so loved the world that 
He gave His only begotten Son, 

804
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,680
that whosoever believeth in him 
should not perish, but have 

805
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,480
everlasting life. 
Do you probably see it and you 

806
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:31,920
don't even think of what you're 
saying. 

807
00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:36,400
But I heard that that night, and
you know what I done had told me

808
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,240
directly from God's words that 
if I was to believe in the Lord 

809
00:39:39,240 --> 00:39:42,920
Jesus Christ, I could be saved. 
I didn't know. 

810
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,760
I we were taught on the Roman 
Catholic Church that was the son

811
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,200
of presumption. 
And you weren't to presume you 

812
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,200
were going to heaven. 
Nobody could presume that if you

813
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,160
were a child in your day, you 
went to Lumbo. 

814
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,120
If you were an adult and you 
died, you went to purgatory and 

815
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,800
then you prayed your your 
family's prayed your way out of 

816
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,400
it. 
No such in a place not 

817
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,960
mentioning God's word. 
It's heaven or hell. 

818
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,320
That's your choice tonight. 
That was my choice that night. 

819
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:12,720
And you know, I never understood
until that night that I could be

820
00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:16,160
sure of heaven because the Lord 
Jesus Christ had done the work. 

821
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,880
He had paid the price. 
And I had completed the work and

822
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,760
he sits now at the right hand 
for the Father. 

823
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,640
And Sharon told all of that in 
the most simple way she could. 

824
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,600
And then she went to Matthew 
chapter 24. 

825
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,800
And I always, I always said to 
her, I still need her an odd 

826
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,240
time for coffee. 
But I always said here that was 

827
00:40:34,240 --> 00:40:36,160
the oddest portion of scripture 
to read that meeting. 

828
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:37,600
She says it wasn't a bit old. 
Margaret. 

829
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,520
The Lord told me to read it. 
But this is what she read in 

830
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:44,920
Matthew 24 verse 36. 
But of that day and there was no

831
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,840
man, no, not the angels of 
heaven, but my Father only. 

832
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,600
But as in the days of Noah, 
where, where, so shall the 

833
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,640
coming of the Son of Man be. 
For as in the days that were 

834
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,720
before the flood, they were 
eating and drinking, marrying 

835
00:40:56,720 --> 00:41:00,240
and giving a marriage until the 
day that Noah entered the ark 

836
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,720
and knew not until the flood 
came and took them all away. 

837
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,080
And this is about that really 
spoke to me. 

838
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,320
So shall the coming of the Son 
of Man be. 

839
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,760
So shall, so shall the coming of
the Son of Man be. 

840
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,760
Then shall 2 be in the field. 
The one shall be taken and the 

841
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,320
other left. 
Two women shall be grinding at 

842
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:24,520
the middle, the other taken. 
The 11 shall be taken and the 

843
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,880
other left. 
Watch therefore, for you know 

844
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,680
not whatever your Lord does, 
come. 

845
00:41:29,240 --> 00:41:31,920
And I knew in that instance, if 
God was to come, I was going to 

846
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,720
hell. 
I knew I'd never get into heaven

847
00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:37,320
the way I was. 
I can remember thinking back to 

848
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,400
when I was 15 and Joe was away 
buying stuff for the shop and I 

849
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,240
was in the house in my own. 
There was a wild storm that 

850
00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:46,160
night and the trees were coming 
down and it was powerful and I 

851
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,600
can remember letting down 3B 
statues and pre entering that. 

852
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,920
I wasn't going down to darkness 
as a child I knew I was going to

853
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,120
darkness. 
I had seen it when people die 

854
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,920
without the Lord. 
What happened with my granny's 

855
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,680
and I just didn't or meet granny
and my granddad's and I didn't 

856
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,520
want to do that. 
And I thought well she's just 

857
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,520
told me from John chapter 3 and 
16 that I can go to heaven. 

858
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,400
And I was wanting to be saved 
that night in November. 

859
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,320
But I looked to my two friends 
to see if it was affecting them 

860
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,400
and they were sitting laughing 
and giggling and I laughed and I

861
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,080
giggled along with them but I 
was the most miserable of 

862
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,120
people. 
I went back to the nurses home 

863
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,960
that night and I thought I need 
to be saved but I'm not going to

864
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,280
get saved yet. 
And I started to bargain with 

865
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,200
the Lord and it's a very 
dangerous thing to do. 

866
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,720
I can remember that day I got 
this letter. 

867
00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:36,280
I had always wanted to be in the
forces of some kind and I had 

868
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,840
applied whenever I got onto 
Mucklemore to go to the REINS, 

869
00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:42,160
the Women's Royal Navy Corps of 
Nursing. 

870
00:42:42,720 --> 00:42:45,320
And I thought when I finish here
I'm going to go on and do that. 

871
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,000
And that was a general course. 
So I thought I'll do that 

872
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,880
whenever I finish here. 
And I'd got word back that day 

873
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,720
that I could go to that one as 
soon as I finished. 

874
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,600
I'd never told Mummy and Daddy 
I'd done it. 

875
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,480
Maybe it would have been a 
different story of that I'd 

876
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:01,680
known, but anyway I thought Lord
let me do that first and let me 

877
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,280
do this and let me do that other
thing and then I'll get saved. 

878
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,920
Anyway, I wasn't a bit happy 
that night. 

879
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,480
It worked on me. 
Sharon gave me the OR took the 

880
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,640
Bible from me and she had marked
some portions of the scripture 

881
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,200
for me to read. 
I packed up the next day and I 

882
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:20,600
went home to for Christmas and I
helped mummy out round home. 

883
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,640
I helped my uncle get ready for 
Christmas. 

884
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,320
Mum had everybody for Christmas,
we all helped out and that was 

885
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,280
OK. 
On Christmas Day I was sitting 

886
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,480
and I suppose I had a long face 
and my mother says to me 

887
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:32,600
Margaret, what is wrong with 
you? 

888
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,840
There's something bothering you 
and you haven't been the same 

889
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,880
since you come home for 
Christmas and I says there's 

890
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,360
nothing bothering my mummy. 
I was too cuddly to say 

891
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,160
anything. 
I was afraid of what would 

892
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,720
happen. 
Anyway, Christmas came and went 

893
00:43:44,720 --> 00:43:47,360
and after Christmas I was to do 
a new placement and I was to go 

894
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,520
down and work on yet nards and 
the general nursing side of 

895
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:54,640
things for 12 weeks. 
So I went down and I thought at 

896
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,680
least when I go to Newton Arts, 
there's normally on boys down 

897
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,960
there, I'll get a bit of peace. 
And I went down on New Year's 

898
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,840
Eve. 
The sister told us to be there 

899
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,160
on New Year's Day and she would 
induct us into the ward. 

900
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,240
And I can remember starting that
New Year's Day and the ward, it 

901
00:44:09,240 --> 00:44:11,320
was very quiet. 
There was no admissions that day

902
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,400
and she had plenty of time with 
me and another girl that was 

903
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,520
doing a placement. 
She brought us in and she 

904
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,520
allocated the other girl to a 
staff nurse and she was going to

905
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,720
be her mentor. 
And sister says to me, I'm going

906
00:44:21,720 --> 00:44:23,960
to be your mentor Margaret. 
So you and I have gone to my 

907
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,320
office and we'll go for what you
need to learn when you're here. 

908
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,120
So I went into her office and 
she closed the door and she says

909
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,960
first thing is Margaret, I want 
to tell you I'm going to be 

910
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,880
praying for you during this 
placement. 

911
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,440
And I got a bit annoyed right 
away. 

912
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,400
She says I'm a born again 
Christian and she says as well 

913
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:44,880
as praying for your learning and
your nurse trainer when you're 

914
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,280
here, I'll be praying for you 
that you that you come to know 

915
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,600
the Lord. 
Well, I had heard for the next 

916
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,960
20 weeks and I thought they're 
everywhere. 

917
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:57,440
These people are everywhere and 
I laugh about it now and I am so

918
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,000
glad they were. 
But when I was under conviction 

919
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,000
of son, I was torture. 
I can remember I did all the 

920
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,960
things that I had to do and one 
of the one thing that was left 

921
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,040
to do before I left that ward 
and sister made sure I was on 

922
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:14,440
every duty that she was on. 
She murdered her duty off mine 

923
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,120
so she would be able to witness 
to me whenever I was on the 

924
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,120
ward. 
But the last thing I had to do 

925
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,240
was admit a patient myself, 
follow them through theatre 

926
00:45:22,240 --> 00:45:25,040
night the other end. 
And I was dreading this because 

927
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:29,120
I had never seen any of that 
glory stuff before, but I was 

928
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,520
going to theatre and she says 
now I have a patient coming in 

929
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:33,960
and I'm going to allocate him to
you. 

930
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,640
So next morning this gentleman 
came in, he came in fasting for 

931
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,560
he was going down for a 
laparoscopic examination of his 

932
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,920
abdomen. 
And he came in that day and I 

933
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,000
thought this isn't too exciting.
He was 83. 

934
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,640
They were going to look and see 
what was bothering him. 

935
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,200
I thought 83 was well, ancient 
at that time. 

936
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,240
I don't think it's so old now at
all. 

937
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,680
But anyway, I sat down beside 
the man to do his admission. 

938
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,400
Go through the E booklet and 
there's a part, it was a model 

939
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,600
of nursing called the Roper, 
Logan and Terney model of 

940
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,400
nursing. 
And he came to which was a bit 

941
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,040
death, dying on spirituality. 
And you had to ask them about 

942
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,880
did they need to see a minister 
or whatever. 

943
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,120
So rather than scare the man, I 
said to him, would you like to 

944
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,160
see a minister of religion when 
you're in here? 

945
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,240
And he says, no, dear, I don't 
need to. 

946
00:46:17,240 --> 00:46:19,800
I, I go to the Brethren Hall, 
the assembly. 

947
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:24,400
I thought, well, whatever. 
And he says I, we have a 

948
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,800
teaching elder. 
But he says more than that. 

949
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,240
He says I'm saved. 
I've been saved since I was 14 

950
00:46:29,240 --> 00:46:32,040
years of age. 
And he said, my wife has gone on

951
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,240
before me, she's in glory. 
And whatever they find, I'm 

952
00:46:35,240 --> 00:46:36,280
ready. 
Are you? 

953
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,960
And there's the man in the sun 
for the operation and I'm sudden

954
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,400
supposed to be helping him and 
he's what listened to me. 

955
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,560
Well, you've never seen a book 
getting filled in as quick in 

956
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,320
your life. 
I had to go and get him 

957
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,920
Temazopan tablets to put him to 
sleep and I was glad to see him 

958
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,360
going over because it was the 
only time he stopped telling me 

959
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,920
my need of salvation. 
I gave him the Temazopan and he 

960
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,160
went to sleep and then the 
Porter arrived and I went down 

961
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,360
with him through the theatre. 
First of all, you got to the 

962
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,200
anaesthetist room and the first 
thing they had done was waking 

963
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,640
him up. 
And anaesthetist woke him up to 

964
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:12,120
check his ID and to check that 
he was who he was supposed to 

965
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,040
be. 
And I remember he woke him up. 

966
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,520
And at the minute that man woke,
he started to tell the 

967
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,080
initiatives he needed to be 
saved and if anything happened 

968
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,520
to him, that he wasn't to worry,
he was ready for heaven. 

969
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,800
But would he be ready or would I
be ready? 

970
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,920
This was me. 
And I'm thinking, yeah, I'm back

971
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,520
over to sleep as quick as you 
can, would you? 

972
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,400
Anyway, he put him back over to 
sleep and I followed him to 

973
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,640
theatre and you'd have thought 
that's it, the Lord's not on the

974
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,880
air. 
I thought I'd get peace in 

975
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,640
theatre. 
But when I went into theatre I 

976
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,960
stood back as far as I could 
because I didn't want to see 

977
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:45,240
much. 
And the the professor, it was a 

978
00:47:45,240 --> 00:47:47,560
Professor Mead Smith who was 
operating that day. 

979
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,160
And he said, was there not a 
student nurse come in there? 

980
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,280
And I says, where are you at? 
I says, I'm back here, get up 

981
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:54,920
here. 
He says. 

982
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,800
So he took me up beside his 
elbow and he says I'm going to 

983
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,080
make these wee incisions and put
in the camera and you'll be able

984
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,760
to watch it on the screen there.
I thought, right, So he put in 

985
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,520
the, he made the incisions and 
he put on the camera, but he had

986
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,600
blocked and blocked and he 
couldn't get it through. 

987
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,640
And he said I'm going to do an 
open incision here. 

988
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,960
He says just check the OR the 
permission sheet there. 

989
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,400
And we checked the sister and, 
and myself checked the sheet and

990
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,440
he had given permission to be 
open if it need be. 

991
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,600
So he's, he opened the mop and 
you know, when it sits in the 

992
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,440
Bible and it says very clearly 
we're widely and wonderfully 

993
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,960
made. 
That is just it because the 

994
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:38,160
surgeon started to open him up 
and he took out this this mass 

995
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,000
of stuff. 
I didn't know what it was, but I

996
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,840
thought I would have a guess at 
it when I was asked. 

997
00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:44,080
And the professor says to me, 
what do you think that is? 

998
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:45,760
And I says I think that might be
the large bell. 

999
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,040
And he says that's right. 
And he pulled a whale more. 

1000
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,560
He says, what's this? 
I says that might be the small 

1001
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:51,880
bell. 
That's right. 

1002
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,120
And he pulled a whale more and 
he looked all round. 

1003
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,440
He says, what's that? 
I says I don't know. 

1004
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,000
And I had a wee look. 
He says that's cancer. 

1005
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,680
And it's right through this man.
He says this man goes to the 

1006
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,040
same assembly as me and he's 
saved since he was 14 years of 

1007
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,120
age. 
He knew his testimony and he 

1008
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:13,160
says he's ready for heaven. 
What about you and friend 

1009
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:14,680
tonight I'd say to you, what 
about you? 

1010
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,120
Are you ready for heaven? 
Because nobody knows when their 

1011
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,800
time will come. 
You don't know what hour the 

1012
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,080
Lord does come. 
Anyway, he says I'm going to 

1013
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,520
just stitch this man up and I'm 
going to put him back together. 

1014
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,440
And he says we'll give him 
tender love and care. 

1015
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,520
So he stitched them all up. 
And as as he was doing that, 

1016
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:36,040
he's explaining that he did the 
incisions and he did the cutting

1017
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:40,000
and he did the stitching, but 
God did the healing and he 

1018
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,440
witnessed the whole time he was 
operating. 

1019
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,480
And anyway, I came out of 
theatre and I thought my legs 

1020
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,160
were like Jelly. 
And it wasn't because of the 

1021
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,560
operation. 
I remember going out and sitting

1022
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,440
beside the man and taking his 
observations every 15 minutes. 

1023
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,200
And after about an hour and a 
half he started to come round 

1024
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,760
and the first thing he did was 
put in his hand, cut my arm. 

1025
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,360
And he says, well dear, what did
they find? 

1026
00:49:59,720 --> 00:50:02,160
I said, would I get you a nurse?
And I'm sitting there dressed 

1027
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,720
like a nurse, like I'm sure he 
thought I wasn't right. 

1028
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,240
Anyway, he I said to him, I'll 
go and get to the doctor. 

1029
00:50:08,240 --> 00:50:10,840
He says, sit your ground. 
He says, I know what they found.

1030
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,600
And he says, I can praise God, I
know now I'm going to be with my

1031
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,880
Saviour and I'll see my wife 
again. 

1032
00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:18,080
And he says, what about you? 
If it was you a nurse? 

1033
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,160
And you know, that rang out in 
my head, I could have cried 

1034
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,120
there and then because I knew 
where I would be if it was me. 

1035
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:28,280
I came out as the whole thing 
that day and finished on that 

1036
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,760
word and the sister says to me, 
are you OK? 

1037
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,960
And I explained to her what had 
happened and she says the Lord's

1038
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:36,000
speaking, listen for his 
speaking. 

1039
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,560
And I can remember I had two 
more weeks to do in yet Nerds, I

1040
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,200
was just two weeks in the 
children's ward. 

1041
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,440
I was never going to be a 
children's nurse, so I had a 

1042
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,880
very short placement and I had 
those two weeks round there. 

1043
00:50:47,720 --> 00:50:51,200
And I have to say God really 
spoke to me in that ward. 

1044
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,720
For the first nine days. 
I had 10 days to do. 

1045
00:50:54,720 --> 00:50:56,640
For the first nine days 
everything went alright. 

1046
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,360
Her sister still saw me because 
she was still me mentor from the

1047
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,960
other ward. 
But on the last day that I was 

1048
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,840
working on that ward, every 
morning I'd sat on to the 

1049
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,160
handover and I'd heard about 
this week girl that was in, she 

1050
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,440
was four years of age, she had 
leukaemia, she was end stage. 

1051
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,400
Her parents were with her all 
the time. 

1052
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,480
They weren't expecting her to 
live very long. 

1053
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,360
I hadn't really worked with her.
I had just gone on to do wee 

1054
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,720
bits and pieces around the ward 
because I wasn't going to be a 

1055
00:51:20,720 --> 00:51:23,600
children's nurse. 
And I can remember that morning 

1056
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,040
going on last day, trying to get
things read up. 

1057
00:51:27,240 --> 00:51:28,880
I, I went, I went past the 
mother. 

1058
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:33,160
She was sitting holding the wee 
child, holding hair, not all 

1059
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:34,640
Corliss. 
She was a beautiful child. 

1060
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,080
And I can remember the mother 
stopped me and says, nurse, 

1061
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:38,920
would you mind holding the my 
child? 

1062
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,400
When I go to the bathroom, my 
husband's just going for his 

1063
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,600
breakfast up to the canteen. 
And I says I, that's OK. 

1064
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:46,760
So I sat down and I took the 
child in my arms. 

1065
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,040
And the mother went off to the 
toilet. 

1066
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,360
And just as she went out the 
door, the child took her last 

1067
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:57,840
breath and my arms. 
And the Lord spoke to me, and I 

1068
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:05,080
said, You know not there, you 
don't know there that I've come.

1069
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,920
Nobody knows whenever the Lord 
will come, or when her time will

1070
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:14,200
be up, only the Lord himself. 
And that child laid in my arms. 

1071
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,600
Now I know she went out unto 
heaven because she wanted the 

1072
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,720
age of understanding, and I know
she went to heaven. 

1073
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,800
But I knew that it had been me, 
or I would have been. 

1074
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:27,880
Well, that was the end of nearly
the end of February going into 

1075
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,440
March and I was glad to get back
to Mucklemore. 

1076
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:31,920
It wasn't such a bad place after
all. 

1077
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:33,800
I thought it might get a bit of 
peace back in Mucklemore. 

1078
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,560
My next placement was starting 
the next week in Mucklemore. 

1079
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,880
Back there I went and on the 
Monday night after I finished my

1080
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,520
1st shift in that word, I went 
over to a nurses home and got 

1081
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,360
changed. 
Went to went to a nurses 

1082
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,480
fellowship. 
I had no notion of going to the 

1083
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,360
Nurses Fellowship, but I knew I 
needed to go to it. 

1084
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:52,880
And I went to the Nurses 
Fellowship and somebody was 

1085
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,200
there and they opened God's Word
and read God's Word. 

1086
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,520
But all I could think about was 
if the Lord comes, I'm in bother

1087
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:03,440
here, I'm going to hell. 
And that continued for the next 

1088
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,760
three weeks. 
And on the. 

1089
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:09,520
Last week, it was the 25th of 
March 1977, I went to the Nurses

1090
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,720
Fellowship. 
I, I couldn't, I Can't Sing a 

1091
00:53:12,720 --> 00:53:16,040
note. 
But they were singing choruses 

1092
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:17,360
and the joiner had started to 
come up. 

1093
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,240
He knew Sharon from Ballymena. 
He had started to play the 

1094
00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:22,160
guitar. 
They were singing and these 

1095
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:23,520
courses, and I couldn't sing 
them. 

1096
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,040
Even if I could have sung, I 
couldn't have sang them because 

1097
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,160
I wasn't going to heaven. 
And I can remember that night, 

1098
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,720
the gospel was preached and I 
went back to my room and I was 

1099
00:53:32,720 --> 00:53:35,160
really miserable. 
I couldn't even speak to anybody

1100
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,480
coming out of that meeting and 
way back over to my room. 

1101
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,960
And I closed the door and I got 
down my knees at the bedside and

1102
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,360
I said, Lord, let me be and 
tell. 

1103
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:46,520
I'm older. 
Let me be and I will get saved. 

1104
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,680
I need to be saved, but I will 
get saved. 

1105
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,840
If I get saved, there's going to
be an awful racket at home. 

1106
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,920
So when I got into my bed after 
I had said the rosary and after 

1107
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,160
I prayed and after I'd read the 
Bible's charm give me, and I got

1108
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,600
into bed really confused and I 
went to sleep and I didn't have 

1109
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,560
any vision or I just had a 
nightmare. 

1110
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:09,400
And I remember waking up and I 
was ringing with sweat and I can

1111
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,360
remember thinking I'm still 
alive. 

1112
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,440
I've time to get saved. 
And I went down the corridor to 

1113
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,320
Sharon's room. 
It was 1:45 in the morning and I

1114
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,360
thought, I'm going to awaken 
her, but I need to awaken her. 

1115
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,080
And I went to put my knuckles on
the door. 

1116
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,880
And just as I did that, the door
pushed open and she was on her 

1117
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,440
knees beside the bed. 
And I said, Sharon, I need to 

1118
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:27,840
get saved. 
And she says, I know you do, 

1119
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,320
Margaret. 
She says Elizabeth and Mary and 

1120
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,000
myself and a few of us knew that
you were under conviction of sun

1121
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,040
and we said we'd pray all night 
for you. 

1122
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,520
It's such a blessing to people 
that would pray all night for 

1123
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,400
you. 
Well, I got down my knees beside

1124
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,120
that bedside and I don't know 
what to say. 

1125
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,720
I don't know what to do. 
But Sharon says to me, Margaret,

1126
00:54:46,720 --> 00:54:48,800
I'm just going to read a few 
portions of God's Word. 

1127
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,360
So she read a few portions of 
God's Word and as she was 

1128
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,680
praying, I said to her, Sharon, 
I know I need to be safe, but 

1129
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:58,000
you know, I'm not that bad. 
I'm not that bad a person. 

1130
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,880
I know that I need to be safe to
get to him, but I'm not. 

1131
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,160
I don't live in a moral life. 
I don't smoke when I don't 

1132
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:06,920
drink. 
I'm that busy pointing the 

1133
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,520
finger at other people. 
Well, Sharon says, Margaret, I'm

1134
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:14,840
not going to argue with you, but
it says in John's and God's word

1135
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,760
and 1st John chapter 1 and 
verses 8 to 10. 

1136
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,280
If we say we have no sin, we 
deceive ourselves. 

1137
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,320
It's just I'm going to take you 
to God's word and you decide 

1138
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,480
whether God's talking about you 
or not. 

1139
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:28,960
And she went straight to Exodus 
chapter 20. 

1140
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,400
I'm sure yous all know the the 
commandments from you're a 

1141
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,640
child. 
And she started to read down 

1142
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,920
through those commandments and 
she said I am the Lord thy God, 

1143
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,240
which has brought you out of the
land of Egypt, out of the House 

1144
00:55:39,240 --> 00:55:41,200
of bondage. 
Thou shalt have no other gods 

1145
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:45,480
before you before me. 
Thy shalt not make unto thee any

1146
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,960
graven image or any likeness of 
anything that is in heaven above

1147
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,240
us. 
Now spending my life kneeling 

1148
00:55:51,240 --> 00:55:53,440
down before statues and clay and
wood. 

1149
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:56,480
And then she went on. 
She read all of that. 

1150
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,240
Thy shalt not take the name of 
thy Lord, thy God in vain. 

1151
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:01,800
I blasphemed every to my my 
mouth. 

1152
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,600
She went on to say, Remember the
Sabbath day to keep it holy. 

1153
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,040
I spent my Sundays Mass in the 
morning, come over in the 

1154
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,160
afternoon, out somewhere at 
night. 

1155
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:16,640
And you know, I knew that before
Sharon went any further that I 

1156
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,280
was the Sinner that Christ died 
for. 

1157
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,040
I had no right to point my 
finger at other people. 

1158
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:25,320
And if you think tonight you're 
sitting in the Pew and you're 

1159
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,720
not as bad as somebody else when
you look at God's word and look 

1160
00:56:28,720 --> 00:56:31,280
at what he says in the 
commandments, and you tell me 

1161
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:32,600
that you haven't broken God's 
law. 

1162
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:37,000
If we say we have no Sinner and 
us we're liars, That's what 

1163
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,200
God's Word says. 
If we say we have no son and us 

1164
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,800
we're liars. 
Well, I was a Sinner and I was 

1165
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,720
the sonner that Christ died for.
And I remember saying to Sharon 

1166
00:56:45,720 --> 00:56:48,840
that night, I need to be saved. 
Now she says, you do indeed. 

1167
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:53,840
And you I confess my sons to the
Lord Jesus Christ and he saved 

1168
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,280
me that night and he has kept me
ever since. 

1169
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,960
And you see, the minute I had 
finished praying with Sharon 

1170
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,800
after I got saved, the devil 
said to me, you'll never keep it

1171
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,040
because I'd never kept done in 
my life. 

1172
00:57:06,720 --> 00:57:08,680
And I said, Sharon, you know 
what I'm going to tell you? 

1173
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:10,040
I'm never going to be able to 
keep this. 

1174
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,960
I'll make a fool of the Lord and
I'll make a fool of myself. 

1175
00:57:13,720 --> 00:57:17,360
And she says, Margaret, you're 
right, you'll never keep it, but

1176
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,320
I'm going to show you in God's 
Word what it says. 

1177
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:24,200
And she turned to Jude verse 24.
Now unto him that is able to 

1178
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,160
keep you from falling and to 
present you faultless before the

1179
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:30,280
presence of his glory, glory 
with exceeding joy. 

1180
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,440
The Lord has kept me and He has 
presented me. 

1181
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,360
He will present me to His Father
when it comes time with 

1182
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:40,720
exceeding great joy. 
I just think that's powerful, 

1183
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,640
that the Lord Jesus Christ, the 
only sunless, spotless Lamb of 

1184
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:49,720
God, picks up a Sinner and puts 
his feet on the rock, Christ 

1185
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:53,120
Jesus, and then goes on to 
present that Sinner before God. 

1186
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,920
Blameless, because I'm covered 
in the blood of Christ. 

1187
00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:00,600
And you can be saved tonight if 
you asked him unto your heart. 

1188
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,760
You have to look at, I remember 
somebody sent to me one night. 

1189
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:05,240
Well, what about the prodigal 
son? 

1190
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:10,760
I says look at the prodigal son.
He came to himself, He confessed

1191
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:15,280
his son to the father, and he 
was accepted unto the fold. 

1192
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,960
And you must come to yourself 
and realise you're never going 

1193
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,600
to get into heaven because of 
your son. 

1194
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:24,400
Not because God's not a God of 
love, for he is a God of love. 

1195
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,280
He's that much a God of love 
that he sent his only begotten 

1196
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:32,400
Son, that you would be saved. 
And you know, there's no other 

1197
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,920
way into heaven, not through 
good works, not through 

1198
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:40,560
charitable works, not through 
any organisation or church. 

1199
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,560
You've got to come to Christ. 
And I thank God tonight. 

1200
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,320
He's saved me and he's kept me. 
And I knew there would be a 

1201
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,280
racket and there was a racket at
home. 

1202
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:50,840
I didn't tell mummy and daddy 
for three weeks. 

1203
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,400
I got frightened. 
And I remember praying with 

1204
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,160
Sharon one night and she would 
help me study the Bible. 

1205
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,320
And I remember saying to her, 
Sharon, I'm really frightened to

1206
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,640
tell mummy and Daddy that my 
next door roommate was the girl 

1207
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,160
that I had went to primary 
school with and I'd always been 

1208
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:05,760
friendly with her. 
And if I wasn't going to tell 

1209
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:07,040
her at home, she would have a 
toll. 

1210
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,080
Anyway. 
She said to me, Margaret, you've

1211
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,760
got to go home and tell your 
mummy and give your testimony. 

1212
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:16,480
Tell them how you get saved. 
And she says, tells us in the 

1213
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,320
Bible that you'll overcome the 
devil by the word of your 

1214
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,920
testimony. 
So I prayed about it and I said,

1215
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,120
Lord, you'll have to help me 
because I can't do this. 

1216
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:28,840
And I remember going home to my 
mum and dad's house and mummy 

1217
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,280
was in the wee scholar at the 
back and mummy, her daddy was in

1218
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,080
the living room and I said, I 
want to speak to you and mummy 

1219
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:36,560
together. 
And I went into me bag and 

1220
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:40,000
brought out the Bible. 
Now Sharon had given me a Bible.

1221
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:44,640
She's given me 1111 word, but 
Danny had the Sharner had given 

1222
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:48,000
me the the King James Version 
and had marked portions of 

1223
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,800
scripture out for me to read. 
I started reading John. 

1224
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:52,480
That's where I started my Bible 
study. 

1225
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,400
And I can remember bringing out 
the Bible and saying to my 

1226
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,120
father, look at one of the my 
friends gave me a muck more. 

1227
00:59:58,120 --> 00:59:59,720
He says, what sort of people 
you're on the boat with 

1228
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:01,760
Margaret? 
Are the are they Catholic 

1229
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:03,800
people? 
I says, no daddy, there's 

1230
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,680
Christian people, they're born 
again and I'm born again now 

1231
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:08,920
too. 
I could save 3 weeks ago and the

1232
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:10,720
next thing I knew Daddy had 
knocked me out. 

1233
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,880
I never, I never remember daddy 
hitting any of us. 

1234
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,680
Mummy gave us many as a 
thrashing because we needed it, 

1235
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:21,120
but Daddy knocked me out. 
And while I came round and he 

1236
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,120
left to be the scruff of the 
neck and he says, you'll get 

1237
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,960
down to Mucklemore, you'll pack 
your bags and you'll come back 

1238
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:27,400
here or we can get you sorted 
out. 

1239
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,880
I says, no, Daddy, the Lord 
saved me for time and eternity. 

1240
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:32,920
Of course, I wasn't very long 
saved. 

1241
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:34,760
This was about three weeks after
I got saved. 

1242
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:38,000
And I didn't know what I should 
be saying, what I shouldn't. 

1243
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,600
I said the worst thing possible 
to my father. 

1244
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,000
I says, Daddy, the Lord saved 
Martin Luther, he'll save you, 

1245
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:45,200
too. 
He was a monk. 

1246
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:47,720
Well, he caught me to the scruff
of the neck and left me outside 

1247
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,200
the front door and he says don't
you come back here to you while 

1248
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,640
he's up. 
So I went out to the house that 

1249
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:54,840
day and I thought I'm never 
going to see my family again 

1250
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,440
because that he didn't make 
foolish promises. 

1251
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,000
Whenever he said something that 
you did, he knew he was going to

1252
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,440
do it. 
And I remember praying about it 

1253
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:03,800
and getting back down to 
Mucklemore. 

1254
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,080
When I go through the door of 
the nurses home, the phone was 

1255
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,040
ringing. 
So whoever was about answered 

1256
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:11,280
and got whoever the call was for
and I answered the phone, it was

1257
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,120
my mother and she says have you 
changed your mind? 

1258
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:16,320
I says mummy, I'm safe now, 
that's the way I am and I'm 

1259
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,440
going to go on with the Lord. 
And she slammed the phone down. 

1260
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:22,800
And for many, many months and 
years, it was a year and a half 

1261
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,280
until they asked us back home 
again. 

1262
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,200
I would have rang home and 
should have slammed the phone 

1263
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:32,680
down on me, but I started the 
joiner asked me out then when I 

1264
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,520
arrived got saved and I started 
out with the joiner. 

1265
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:39,080
We went out together and you 
know, you think you lost things 

1266
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,680
when you get saved. 
I didn't think I would lose 

1267
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:45,120
things and I thank God for the 
things I lost tonight. 

1268
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,080
I lost my world experience that 
would have took me to the wrong 

1269
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,240
places. 
The Lord supplied me the good 

1270
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,240
godly Christian people that 
would help me in my pathway. 

1271
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,040
I thought I would lost my 
family, but the Lord was in 

1272
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:59,520
control of that and whenever I 
had days off I spent them in 

1273
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,560
Muckamore Abbey and I would have
been way bigger reading or maybe

1274
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,400
doing a bit of study and a bit 
of shopping or whatever. 

1275
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:09,200
I had nowhere to go and Danny 
had told his mummy about me 

1276
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:13,400
getting saved and Mrs Cameron 
senior had said to Danny bring 

1277
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,480
you that wee girl down here and 
I'll help her. 

1278
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,600
So Danny said to me, Margaret, 
when's your next days off? 

1279
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:21,040
And I told him and he says, well
my mother says you're to come 

1280
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,680
and stay with us. 
And I says no Danny, I'm not 

1281
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:25,320
going to impose. 
And he says you're coming down. 

1282
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,600
He says we're going out 
together, you need to meet my 

1283
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:30,640
mother and father and you need 
to be in company. 

1284
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:34,600
So I went down and I have to say
before go out tonight, I had the

1285
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:35,680
best. 
Mother-in-law. 

1286
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:38,800
She was a thoughtly woman. 
She'd got saved in her very 

1287
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:42,720
early years and she left school 
at 14 to work on the farm. 

1288
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:46,320
But she was so wise because she 
knew the Scriptures and she knew

1289
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,760
the Saviour. 
And in those days when the men 

1290
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,480
went out to work and I was off, 
she would have sat me down with 

1291
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,960
the Bible and I would have read 
the Bible along with her and she

1292
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:55,600
would have taught me things from
God's Word. 

1293
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,440
She taught me what a woman 
should be in a church. 

1294
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:00,920
She was always very wise. 
She would always have said to 

1295
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:04,000
me, now whenever you and Danny 
get married, if that's the way 

1296
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,720
you're going, she says you will 
find a church, you will settle 

1297
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,800
in it and you'll not be the 
cause of contention in it. 

1298
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,280
And she says if you see 
contention, get out of the way 

1299
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,400
of it because you're not there 
to do that. 

1300
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,600
And I was so grateful for the 
years I had with her. 

1301
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:20,680
The Lord took her home in 1992 
through a a bus crash in 

1302
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:23,640
Carrickfergus. 
But I had many years with her 

1303
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:28,480
where she was a really wise 
woman and a soul mate, for she 

1304
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,440
sat down and helped me through 
God's Word. 

1305
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,240
Danny's father was the same and 
his brothers and sisters the 

1306
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,200
same. 
So what I thought I was going to

1307
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,440
lose, the Lord replaced one 
hundredfold. 

1308
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:41,000
I lost nothing but my son that 
night and the price that had to 

1309
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,720
be paid for it. 
And the Lord saved me and he has

1310
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,000
kept me. 
And you know, there is nothing 

1311
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:47,960
too hard for God. 
Maybe you're here tonight and 

1312
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:51,440
you're saying to yourself, oh, I
couldn't be saved, but I'm too 

1313
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:53,040
bad. 
I'm too bad. 

1314
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,040
Well, that's not what it says in
God's Word. 

1315
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:59,600
And you always go to God's Word 
because it is His Word and it 

1316
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:01,600
tells the truth. 
And you know what it says in 

1317
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Isaiah 55 verses 1 to 8 or 
verses sorry, verses 6, Seek you

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the Lord, while he may be found,
call you upon Him while he is 

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near. 
Let the wicked forsake his way. 

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Doesn't say you're too wicked, 
we are all wicked and deserve 

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hail. 
But it says, let the wicked 

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forsake his way and the 
unrighteous man has thoughts and

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let him return on to the Lord, 
and he will have mercy upon him 

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and to our God. 
He will abundantly pardon. 

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The Lord abundantly pardoned me,
and he will abundantly pardon 

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you if you come tonight. 
I thank God for being saved for 

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him keeping me, and He will Take
Me Home when it's His time. 

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I can turn your minister already
referred to tonight to Psalm 

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103. 
And that's my wee portion of the

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Scripture that I always go to 
because it just sums up my 

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testimony. 
And it says there and verses 3 

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and four, who forgive us all thy
iniquities, who healeth all thy 

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diseases, who redeemeth thy life
from destruction, who crown us, 

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leave with loving kindness and 
tender mercies. 

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And that's exactly what the Lord
has done for me. 

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You'd come to him tonight and be
saved. 

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You know, it took me to see the 
priest, and the priest threw me 

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out. 
I used to get used to being 

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thrown out. 
I used to leave my bag at the 

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door for I knew I was going out 
at some stage, but the Lord 

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always opened the door again. 
And I thank God tonight that He 

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has saved me. 
He has kept me. 

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What I thought was too hard to 
face, He had already sorted out.

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And it says in Job 22, and I'm 
finishing this verse of 

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Scripture and this is a lovely 
verse of Scripture. 

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Acquaint thus acquaint now 
thyself with him, and be at 

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peace, because everlasting peace
is found in the Lord Jesus 

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Christ. 
Come to Him tonight. 

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Don't put it off. 
Come to Him tonight and be 

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saved. 
I would like to thank our sister

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Margaret for coming tonight and 
sharing this personal word of 

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testimony and telling us about 
the many people that were links 

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to the chain. 
And the Bible says, Let the 

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redeemed of the Lord say so, who
may have redeemed from the hand 

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of the enemy.