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Yeah, yeah, exactly. 
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much like, you know, someone 
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this element, Yeah. 
And being off at the side and 

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actually. 
That's doing your and you're 

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working together. 
Spent a bit of that time 

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together in it. 
That's it. 

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And my daughter's been on the 
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performer. 
And so, you know, maybe there's 

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an opportunity for her to, to 
come back. 

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No family business. 
Yeah, that'd be, that'd be a 

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dream, wouldn't it? 
Yeah. 

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So yourself have you got? 
You've got family, you've got 

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kids, Yeah. 
I've got two kids. 

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I've got Mason who's 18 or 
sorry, nearly 18, and I've got a

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young one called Bo who's eight.
Yeah, both both good boys, both 

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mad typical boys. 
But yeah, my 18 year old, he 

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does. 
He's at college at the minute, 

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but he wants to start trading. 
He's really into his trading at 

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the minute. 
So yeah, which I'm proud of him 

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for doing that, really. 
I'm hearing this a lot with the 

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younger generation. 
They're seeing this as like a a 

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way to make money, a way to I. 
Think I think it would be good 

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really, if you think to 
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it's cold over here. 
Who really wants to be living in

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the cold all the time? 
So for him, he's more thinking 

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of the future. 
Like where can I be laying on a 

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beach earning money somewhere 
like I don't know Spain or I'd 

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say Dubai now, but when Dubai 
gets back he'd be loved to sit 

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on the beach and start trading, 
earning some money while laying 

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by. 
A pole one of my beliefs is, is 

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that, you know, the economy is 
so bad and there there's a lot 

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of things wrong with the 
country, with the world right 

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now that actually this is a 
moment to to live the dream to 

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try and shoot for something 
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Absolutely, Yeah, I think so. 
I mean, my son, he previously 

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was, he was in the the business 
as well. 

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Like he was, he was a model and 
he started, he's been in a few 

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films as well. 
And he worked for a company 

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called Bonnie and Betty, which 
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talent agency. 
But he got to the age of 15 

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where he found out about girls 
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And then he just said, oh, look,
Dad, I'm not really that 

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bothered about it. 
So he, he moved, he moved on. 

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And now he does other stuff. 
But yeah, but the economy at the

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minute, yeah, it's not, it's not
great. 

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And I think there's if there's 
any opportunity you can come up 

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where you can work a board 
somewhere nice. 

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And you say living the dream. 
Yeah. 

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You want to be somewhere nice, 
didn't you? 

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And hot, Yeah. 
I mean, when you're when it's 

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warm and you're hot, it's not. 
You feel better. 

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Yeah. 
I just think everything is. 

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It's the way of life. 
Yeah, we when we when we met 

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earlier today before we start 
pressure record on the podcast, 

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I was saying about how I feel 
tired all the time and not 

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feeling great and I I put a lot 
of that down to how bad the 

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weather is as well. 
Absolutely that it's just, you 

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know, it's just been constantly 
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You think to yourself when the 
sun comes out, as soon as you 

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see a bit of sunshine, your 
energy levels are up. 

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They boost and they and I think 
that's the way it is where we're

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so deprived. 
The sun over here, you look 

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around, the skies are grey and 
everyone's miserable and a bit 

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or in Spain and Dubai, everyone 
seems to be on this fitness 

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thing and everyone's can get up 
in the morning, go for a run, go

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for a swim in the seas. 
Imagine waking up every morning,

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going to going to see that we'll
wake up. 

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That'll give you more energy 
straight away. 

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So plus we're getting older. 
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our bodies are going to slow 
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tighter, so we need to help 
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can. 
So what advice would you give to

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me then to for me to change 
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escape the grey? 
I just think for me, mine's 

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always been into my fitness, 
always been gym, gym for me as a

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life savior. 
It's my place of happiness. 

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It's my therapy. 
I go there and I can switch off,

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have an hour and a half of just 
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Good for your mental health. 
I'm big on mental health. 

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Yeah. 
So I think it, I think a lot of 

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men as well suffer with mental 
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Not just men, women, but a lot 
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So I think getting to the gym, 
having that dedication, having 

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that discipline really helps. 
So start off with going to the 

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gym, even even having a sunbed. 
I know it sounds mad but like I 

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have AI can have a sunbed once 
every couple weeks and say get 

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that little bit of vitamin give.
You a bit of a boost. 

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Yeah, and it helps. 
It does. 

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Yeah. close your eyes for 10 
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I think you're another day. 
No, But it does help you a 

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little bit. 
You know what I mean? 

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Look after yourself. 
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I don't know, Treat yourself a 
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Yeah. 
If we're just accepting that 

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it's great. 
It's miserable. 

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I ain't got time to make 
anything better, actually. 

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Yeah, well, maybe I don't 
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No, of course you don't. 
If I'm being honest, this is 

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exactly how I'm going to feel. 
I'm going to think as well, too 

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much sleep as well. 
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sleep is good, very important, 
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Yeah, I know that if I have 8 
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I'm good, I feel good. 
If I have anything more 910, so 

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you do have a little like I wake
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There's like a tipping point, 
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There's what we actually need. 
And then there's maybe we're 

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moving too far into comfort that
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Yeah, it ain't no good. 
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older, you start your tissue 
showing as the mouth starts 

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dropping. 
A lot of people suffer with that

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low tissue showing. 
Men don't even know they've 

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suffered from it to go and get 
checked out and then go actually

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you've got testosterone of a, of
a 12 year old girl. 

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Do you know what I mean? 
Like you're so low. 

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So yeah, men should go and get 
that checked out because it's, 

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it's a life changer. 
When you get a few, there's 

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stuff out it's called TRT, like 
testosterone replacement 

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therapy, which you can get and 
it helps men change their life. 

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Their, their whole don't know. 
It just wakes them up, yeah, 

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gives them a new lease of life, 
which I think we all need. 

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Yeah, maybe I've been relying 
too much on the things that have

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been making me feel good, like 
doing this, doing my creative 

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things that I do that makes me 
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So I've been leaning into that. 
But then it's the other sides of

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life that have been slipping 
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Yeah. 
And so, yeah. 

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And it's that I'm at a point 
where I need to get something 

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checked. 
And I think definitely, I think 

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you should go and get it like 
it's like a mini MOT in it on 

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our bodies. 
Why do we? 

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Not do that. 
I don't know. 

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I don't know. 
Do you know what it is? 

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But I think we're so old school,
like the way I've been brought 

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up, like if I've got a headache 
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tablet. 
Go on, go and lay down. 

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You don't really get yourself 
checked out, but now you should 

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go and get yourself checked out 
regularly test all your test 

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rush and over your blood 
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And this is a peace of minding. 
And then if God forbid anything 

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is whatever, you can get it 
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Yeah, I'm. 
Going to take that advice. 

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Take that. 
Advice. 

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I'm going to take that advice 
next year. 

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It's amazing how important these
conversations can because you 

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know, a little bit of advice 
like that can make a massive 

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difference to the rest of my 
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So I. 
Appreciate that. 

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But yeah, no, definitely give it
a try on Monday, give the 

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doctors a go and give book in a 
little test and I think you'll 

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be surprised. 
I will do, Matt. 

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I appreciate. 
It if you if you think nothing, 

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and if they come back and go 
nothing's wrong, you've had, 

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then you're just a lazy bum. 
It'd be alright. 

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There's something else to look 
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If they go OK, all your bloods 
and all your stats are good, so 

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there's something. 
Else to think as well, like 

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you're like you, we were saying 
earlier, your energy levels are 

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good when you're doing this 
because you're passionate about 

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it. 
Yeah, again, it's you've got to 

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find something in life that 
you're passionate about, as you 

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say, like are you for me again, 
passionate about the gym. 

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So I'm in the gym and I love it,
but then after this time when I 

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sit indoors or what am I doing, 
I should be somewhere else. 

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The same thing. 
I should be living this other 

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life. 
You don't. 

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But it's you just got to deal 
with it and be as happy as you 

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can really. 
Wonderful. 

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Well, this is just a mini 
episode Matt, so I appreciate 

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you sharing. 
You can probably talk SO. 

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Yeah, we can. 
We can. 

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Yeah, we. 
Can loads of stories. 

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We can go well, maybe we're 
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the near future. 
But for today, then, my big 

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question that I ask everyone is,
Matt, how would you make this a 

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better world? 
How would I make this a better 

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world? 
I think a lot of the what for 

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everyone or for the kids or for 
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For you right now, how would you
like to How? 

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Would I? 
How would this? 

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How would I make this a better 
world? 

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Well, definitely this. 
Definitely. 

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If we could have the sun. 
I know keep saying about the 

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sun, definitely that. 
Try and make it a bit, Yeah. 

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I mean, more activities for the 
kids to do, everyone being 

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happier. 
If we can all be happier and 

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being kinded to each other, I 
think we all need to be a bit 

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nicer. 
A lot of jealous people out 

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there in the world. 
And if you tell anyone I'm doing

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this and doing that, they'd 
rather see you foul and do good.

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And I think we should all 
support each other. 

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One of the amazing things I'm 
hearing when I hear when I ask 

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that question is sometimes the 
the answer is not actually that 

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difficult to go and seek. 
Be kinder. 

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Just be kinder to each other. 
Just be nice and you know. 

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Maybe that'd be about the sun. 
Maybe, you know, maybe we need 

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to go and seek it out. 
I. 

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Think, you know, I just think 
little little bits, little 

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changes, little changes can turn
anything, as you say, from 

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eating habits to whatever you do
is yeah, little changes. 

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But be nice to judge, be kinder,
give you each other support 

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because you don't know what 
people go through, especially 

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like the mental health side and 
stuff. 

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Give each other support and 
things. 

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Never. 
It's like networking isn't it? 

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You're nice to someone and 
someone go, oh actually he's a 

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nice bloke. 
I've got a little coming up here

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that will lead on to the. 
Next, doing that and then that, 

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it's like a snow. 
Yeah, it's like a snow. 

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As we discovered with you and 
Alexander on the Madonna set, 

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Madonna and then here you are 
today doing this they. 

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Hide my top off and Alex was 
looking at me for whatever 

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reason that was then. 
Yeah. 

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You meet people and you and you 
do that. 

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And then, yeah. 
And again, my my background with

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the acting come from special 
action stuff like the firearms 

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and combat. 
That's where that's where I 

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started off doing a lot of 
stuff. 

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But again, like probably, I 
don't know if that's for another

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day. 
Yeah, we'll get I think we're 

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going to definitely have to sit 
down and do this for a lot 

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longer, man. 
So I do I do appreciate you 

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joining me on this mini episode 
and I look forward to following 

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the journey with devils there as
well. 

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So this is this has been great. 
And actually, you know, the one 

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last thing that I'd like to 
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you're fairly new to Harlow, you
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How do you feel about this town 
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Because I'm seeing some big 
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I'm seeing we're in a massive 
redevelopment time. 

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Yeah, I mean if you walk around 
Harlow town, the only really 

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good place about it is the Water
Gardens and obviously the 

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leisure. 
The leisure place, I take my 

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kids room in there so it looks 
decent, but apart from that you 

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haven't really got much here. 
So I'm looking forward to it 

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because it has got massive 
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And how would, as someone like I
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you like to see it change? 
Just with new cleaner shops, new

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big branded shops, I think would
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into it. 
I know they're talking about 

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getting Marks and spencers 
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I don't know if you heard that. 
Yeah, unless just. 

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Say Marks, which would be good. 
I just think make nice 

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restaurants, do the town up a 
bit better, make it 9 more 

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appealing to different people 
because at the minute I think 

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that's true. 
But it's I think Harlow has got 

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a bit of a bad name for it. 
It's been. 

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Neglected. 
It's been neglected. 

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It's been neglected and it's got
such opportunities. 

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It could do do really well in 
the future. 

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But yeah, hopefully more 
playgrounds for the kids or for 

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the youth to start playing. 
Basketball courts, Football 

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courts? 
Yeah, different bits. 

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Yeah, people. 
A place for people to live their

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lives. 
And I and I and I see that 

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happening and I think we're 
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And even like, you remember back
in the day, we used to get all 

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the old pubs in that like, you 
don't really find them much 

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anymore, do you? 
A bit run around and where you 

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can go out. 
Remember they used to put the 

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potatoes on the bars. 
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So. 
But yeah, if things. 

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But hopefully Harlow would pick 
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It'd be a lovely place to live. 
Wonderful. 

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Well, thanks again for sharing, 
Matt. 

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Thank you. 
And if anyone has been watching 

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or listening, we appreciate you 
for joining us for this 

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conversation. 
Wonderful. 

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Thanks again.