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This is ERC Sundays, the 
messages at Emmaus Rd. 

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Church in DeWitt, Iowa. 
ERC is a Church of people 

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striving to grow in Jesus and 
make him known to others through

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our faith, words and actions. 
Find out more about our church 

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at emmausrdonline.org. 
Here's this week's message. 

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Well, this week what we are 
going to be doing is we are 

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going to be finishing up a 10 
week series in the book of 

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Romans, specifically chapter 8. 
Now I'll tell you that if you 

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haven't been with us, you're 
like, wait, I came at the end of

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the series. 
I thought you were supposed to 

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start something on on Easter. 
Well, you wouldn't be wrong. 

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That would be typical. 
But there is nothing typical 

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about this church or me, if 
you've noticed. 

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So anyway, man, I'm going to do 
everything I can to, to drag you

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forward into the conclusion of 
this. 

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And so I will do my very best to
to keep you up on what's going 

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on. 
I have some confidence that will

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happen because you are smart 
people. 

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Nobody nodded. 
Nobody's like, yes, I am. 

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This is going great. 
I love this. 

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Well, anyway, for those of you 
who have been with us for the 

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last 9 weeks, going into this 
week, my my hope and my goal for

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you is that what you would see 
is you'd see that everything 

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that Paul has been building up 
to this resurrection logic that 

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he's been building, I hope you 
will see the fulfillment of that

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in the resurrection in Jesus 
Christ. 

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And so yes, let's find the 
logical implications of this. 

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And that sounds very scholarly 
and teachery, I understand. 

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But there are logical 
implications and reasons why the

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resurrection should affect 
everything we do every single 

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day. 
Because here's the thing, I 

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there are, there are a lot of 
people who would freely tell you

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that they're Christians. 
Great. 

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And there are other people who 
if you press them a little bit, 

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because it's very private to 
them, OK, if you press them a 

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little bit, they'll say, yeah, 
I'm, I'm a Christian. 

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But I have met so many 
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resurrection logic dictating 
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What I mean by that? 
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Jesus Christ is true, it means 
that I I do not need to fear the

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future, nor do I need to regret 
the past. 

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I don't have to do either of 
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And if the resurrection of Jesus
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base my identity on how I 
perform or, or, or the things 

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that I do because Jesus has 
already done all the important 

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performing and achieving for me.
And if Jesus Christ and the 

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resurrection is true, it means 
that I am free from uncertainty 

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and I am free from shame because
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this and He has covered all of 
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Therefore, I get to live a 
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Or at least I should. 
Here's the thing, friends, I am 

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quite sure that, well, let's put
it this way, I walk around the 

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world as if Jesus Christ is 
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I do, and I suspect that's part 
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am. 
I'm a little weird because I 

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believe a dead man is alive. 
That makes me weird amongst the 

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general population. 
But here's the thing, friends. 

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There are too many Christians 
who don't live with that kind of

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freedom. 
They don't live with the freedom

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of man. 
My Savior isn't dead. 

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He is very much alive, and it's 
provable. 

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He's alive. 
We don't live like that. 

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And and the problem is when we 
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logic, what happens is our 
identities, they become very 

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fragile, very fragile indeed. 
You ever criticize somebody and 

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they just blow up? 
I mean, you're like, well, that 

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wasn't the best lasagna I've 
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And they just lose their mind. 
You want to know why? 

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It's because their identity was 
clearly found in something other

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than the resurrected Jesus 
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Resurrection logic tells me that
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out, there's a lot of fear of 
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There's a lot of fear of the 
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And so you meet these people. 
Some of you are those people, no

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offense, but you meet these 
people and they try to like, 

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control and micromanage 
everything because they think 

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that's the only way they can be 
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That's not resurrection logic. 
That's not it at all. 

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And you meet these people, Lord 
help them. 

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And I mean that, man, they walk 
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guilt and they walk around with 
all this hidden shame and it 

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just eats them up. 
But no, no, it's a powerful 

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word, No, And I like using it, 
especially with all the littles 

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I hang out with all the time. 
But it's a powerful word. 

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And then God's word says no to 
all of that. 

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No, you are called to live 
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You are called to live with 
resurrection logic, not just in 

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your head, but in your heart. 
And when you do that, man, life 

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changes. 
And I can say that for sure 

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because it is absolutely changed
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So with that in mind, we're 
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resurrection logic looks like at
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And this is kind of how that's 
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First and foremost, the 
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conquers all. 
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unshakable security. 
And 3rd, the resurrection is the

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ultimate proof that God is 
absolutely for us. 

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So we are going to read that and
we're going to figure that out 

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in Romans 8, verses 31 through 
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You can check that out on the 
screen or if you have a Bible or

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your phone app or however that 
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That's great. 
Sorry, I'm sniffling. 

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That last song really got me. 
So sorry. 

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My bad. 
I'll try not to. 

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Usually that's Matt's thing. 
He's the 10. 

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He's catching strays. 
Oh, man, you can tell it's 

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second service. 
I'm off the rails. 

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All right? 
It's fine. 

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It's fine. 
We're going to get back on. 

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We're going to be good. 
All right, so Romans 8, 31 

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through 39, and we read this in 
Jesus name. 

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What then shall we say of these 
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If God is for us, who can be 
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He who did not spare his own 
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will he not also with Him 
graciously give us all things? 

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Who shall bring any charge 
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It is God who justifies, who is 
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It is Jesus Christ who died more
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is at the right hand of God, who
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who shall separate us from the 
love of Christ, Shall 

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tribulation, or distress, or 
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nakedness, or danger, or sword, 
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We are being killed all the day 
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We are slaughtered as sheep to 
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be slaughtered? 
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are more than conquerors through
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For I am sure that neither 
death, nor life, nor angels, nor

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rulers, nor things present, nor 
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height, nor depth, nor anything 
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able to separate us from the 
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Lord. 
Amen, man, Paul's on fire. 

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May that word be blessed and 
praised forever. 

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So yeah, that's fine. 
Nope. 

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Nope, not fine. 
It's been said by somebody much 

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smarter than me, but I don't 
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triumphed in the resurrection of
Jesus Christ. 

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I love that divine love has 
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Jesus Christ. 
Now I find something's 

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problematic, though. 
I'm just going to use you guys 

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as my complaint window, and 
here's what it sounds like. 

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I find it deeply troubling when 
people talk about the 

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resurrection, they talk about 
the love of God, and they always

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put it out somewhere else as if 
I should not be able to benefit 

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and grab that for myself. 
Today we talked about it as this

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future thing. 
Like, yeah, I know it's really 

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hard today, but someday you'll 
be in heaven. 

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OK, great. 
That's true, but what does that 

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do for me right now? 
Because right now I got real 

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problems. 
Right now I've got real stress. 

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Right now I've got real pain. 
What is that doing for me today?

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See, The thing is, the 
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not just proof of life after 
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And please don't hear your 
pastor blasphemy. 

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All of that is lovely. 
And I believe that that's great.

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But I'll go out on a limb and 
say this, that if the conquering

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love of the resurrection of 
Jesus Christ doesn't change how 

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you interact with this world, 
man, you are missing it. 

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You are just missing it. 
You are falling short because 

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what is in your head? 
Sure, I can intellectually 

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accept that Jesus died for my 
sins and he is alive. 

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Man, that's got to move down 
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move into our soul, into our 
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So that way when trouble comes, 
when all this stuff comes, man, 

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I have got somebody who I know 
loves me and is on my side right

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now. 
I need that right now. 

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I don't, I don't need that when 
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I need that right now. 
And I bet you do too. 

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And so when people talk about 
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not enough. 
And I think they're misspeaking 

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because I've read my Bible and 
it says that God loves me and 

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he's for me right now and he's 
working right now. 

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Man, can you feel that? 
Here's the thing, if if that's 

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you, if you are not taking this 
gospel logic and applying it in 

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your head and going through your
heart and out of your mouth, 

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you're missing it. 
And I would encourage you dig 

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deeper, pray, join a group. 
I mean, do something. 

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Dig deeper into your faith. 
He's right there. 

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And here's the thing. 
I I could tell you all that and 

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I could say, well, good luck 
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And I'll leave and we all get 
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Or I could try and help you, 
which is what I'm going to do 

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because otherwise bad pastor. 
Yeah. 

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OK. 
So let me help you this way. 

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I'm going to give you a quote 
from somebody who's way smarter 

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than anybody in this room. 
No offense, I just think it's 

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probably true. 
If I'm wrong, you can come talk 

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to me afterwards and blow my 
mind. 

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But Agustin, he read Romans 
chapter 8 and and he understood 

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the resurrection of Jesus 
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He understood that in his soul. 
And so this is what he says 

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about the end of Romans chapter 
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He says love is the weight that 
carries the soul upward. 

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Man, if I could write like that 
I would have so many books. 

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But he said love is the weight 
that carries the soul upward. 

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Now it seems obvious to me, but 
I feel like I need to say it 

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anyway. 
It is God's love for us that is 

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doing all the heavy lifting, not
our love for Him. 

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OK, let me just get that out of 
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It is His love bringing up us up
into His grace and His mercy, 

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that conquering love, when it is
received, it has the perfect 

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ability to not just guarantee 
something later, but to change 

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us right now. 
And it should, It really should.

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And so I'm going to give you a 
visual because I'm a visual 

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learner. 
That's kind of how I work. 

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I'm going to give you a visual 
of like what this probably looks

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like based on Augustine's 
understanding of Romans chapter 

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8. 
So what we have is we have the 

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cornerstone, we have the 
cornerstone that we can trust 

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and we can build our entire 
lives on that cornerstone and we

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will always be level. 
We will always stand tall when 

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we build our life on the 
cornerstone of Jesus Christ. 

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So we have Jesus Christ life and
death and resurrection. 

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And what is that doing? 
It is a heavyweight. 

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It is an infinite weight of love
that presses down onto the 

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world. 
And what does it do for the 

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believer? 
It brings up, it brings us up it

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it brings us above all of these 
things that Satan and this 

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broken world and even we 
ourselves do to our do to 

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ourselves. 
It brings us above those things.

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Now I'm not going to read that 
whole list, but let me just give

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you the categories of 
everything. 

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Then that says it's death. 
That's that's a good one kind of

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need to be above that. 
I would like to be above ground.

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In fact, that's a joke. 
Spiritual forces and battles. 

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I mean, not everybody is super 
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man, you get some Holy Spirit 
work done in you and you're, 

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you're feeling some of those 
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Time. 
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us. 
Space, physical and emotional 

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suffering, violence, social 
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friends, these things, the 
reality of these things, it's 

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they're real and they're and 
they're hard, they're difficult.

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But for the believer in Jesus 
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his Holy Spirit will fall below 
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Now I should say, and we've said
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over the last couple weeks, does
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you're never going to have any 
problems in your life? 

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No, no, that's not what that 
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I would be, I mean, if you 
believe that I got a bridge to 

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sell you, I do. 
But but no, we experience 

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trouble and we experience 
hardship and, and I understand 

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that and so does Jesus. 
In fact, he said the student is 

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not greater than the master. 
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that we will endure some 
suffering, however, from God's 

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resurrection. 
Love does mean that all the 

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worse that this world can do to 
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You know what it's doing. 
It's just drawing us upward. 

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And you say, but Pastor Chris, 
when the worst things happen to 

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me, I don't feel like I'm being 
drawn upward. 

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I feel like I'm being pounded 
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I understand, I do. 
But I had a pastor tell me once,

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and I've never forgotten and I 
never will, that God has a 

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really unique way of weaning us 
off of this world. 

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Now, the Bible often talks about
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Really. 
Because when if I got a speeding

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ticker, I wake up and my knees 
hurt because I'm old or all this

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kind of stuff, I don't go sweet,
thank you, Lord, that's awesome.

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Come on, be realistic. 
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And suffering means that as we 
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world, what's going to happen is
God is going to continuously 

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lift us closer and closer to 
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Because that's the end game for 
God is resurrection reality, not

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just for his Son, Jesus Christ, 
but for every single person who 

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believes in him. 
And when you get that into your 

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head and into your heart, it 
creates an unshakable 

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confidence, an unshakable 
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the lamb has been spilled on 
your behalf. 

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And he has proven that he's for 
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Yeah. 
Now that brings us into our 

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second resurrection logic idea. 
And we need to get this. 

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So I'll do my best. 
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what Paul does is he asks this 
list of rhetorical questions, 

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meaning that when he asked the 
question, you ought to already 

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know the answer because, well, 
it seems obvious enough if 

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you're trusting in Jesus Christ.
But it was pointed out to me at 

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our Food for Thought Bible study
on Thursday mornings, which by 

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the way, if you have free time 
at 10 AM on a Thursday, you 

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should totally go. 
It's great. 

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It's at Fieldstone and we do 
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awesome. 
So anyway, it was pointed out to

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me at that Bible study by Sharon
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And she looked at these verses 
and she said, huh, I never 

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noticed that before. 
Well, say more, Sharon. 

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OK. 
And she's like, do you realize 

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that these rhetorical questions 
that Paul is asking are the same

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questions that Satan asks us? 
Let me work that out for you. 

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The gospel says if God is for 
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And Satan comes in and he says 
you think God is for you, He 

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wouldn't be for Someone Like 
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How many times have you failed 
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You sure he's for you? 
And the gospel says, how will he

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not also with him graciously 
give us all things? 

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Why do you lack so much of what 
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Why do bad things still happen 
to you if he's going to give you

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all things? 
Seems like you're not getting 

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much of anything out of this 
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The gospel says, who shall bring
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Who is to condemn charges? 
Condemnation, of course. 

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Look at your life. 
Why wouldn't God charge you? 

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You have failed over and over 
again, and I've heard your 

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prayers just like He has. 
And guess what? 

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You've promised to avoid that 
sin. 

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You promised to get better and 
you haven't. 

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Of course God's going to charge 
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You broke your promise. 
And then the last rhetorical 

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question, Who shall separate us 
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Don't you feel separated from 
God already? 

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Remember when you were a new 
Christian and you had all the 

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feels and you would cry during 
songs and you would read your 

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Bible all the time? 
Seems like you lost the feels. 

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Seems pretty separate from you. 
He must have moved away. 

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Enough, enough of that nonsense.
I have lived and fought those 

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questions over and over again. 
Enough done with that, done with

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Satan twisting the gospel, 
trying to make me feel like I am

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less than something that God has
already said. 

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You are this, done with it. 
I hope you are too. 

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Because guess what? 
When you do, when you finally 

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get done with that junk man, 
you'll be free. 

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You'll be free and it's a good 
life. 

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It's a really good life. 
So despite the lies, there 

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stands just an insurmountable 
amount of evidence that God's 

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love is for us. 
It never fails, it never 

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falters, it doesn't quit. 
It is always in the highest 

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gear. 
And so the resurrection is the 

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public evidence and it is the 
vindication that Jesus Christ, 

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there is a final and a legal 
guarantee to your salvation. 

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It is very done. 
And the resurrection tells us 

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that Jesus Christ has spilled 
his blood for all of us, and as 

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we believe in him, we are free, 
we are forgiven, we are sons and

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daughters of the God on the Most
High. 

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And as Jonathan Edwards once 
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evidence that God is holy for 
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Amazing, isn't it? 
Therefore, the security that 

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every believer has in Christ is 
perfectly aligned and it's 

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perfectly placed because the 
fact that Jesus is alive is the 

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fact that we need to be able to 
move forward in this life and 

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power and enjoy despite our 
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Doesn't mean we rejoice 
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but man, it does mean that we 
have a deep seated joy because 

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of what Christ has done for us 
and what He's doing for us 

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today. 
That I can move through this 

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world. 
I can move through those 

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temptations and those troubles 
and I can do it with power. 

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You bet, you bet. 
And that is not just for a 

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pastor. 
The same Holy Spirit that dwelt 

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inside the apostles is the same 
Holy Spirit that dwells inside 

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you today, Christian. 
So therefore you have this 

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imbued power inside of you. 
Are you accessing it with 

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resurrection logic from your 
head to your heart? 

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Is it moving through you? 
And I hope it does. 

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I hope it does. 
It is very possible. 

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I'm just a guy. 
The resurrection of Jesus 

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Christ. 
It is the cosmic reversal of 

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everything that Romans 8 lists 
as potential pitfalls for us and

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potential hardship. 
It is the cosmic reversal of all

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those things. 
And because Jesus Christ has 

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spilled his blood and he is 
alive, we too live, not just 

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later, but we live right now. 
Now, I've got one more thing for

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you. 
We're on to our kind of final 

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resurrection logic. 
But I kind of thought like, man,

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I know me, I've probably been 
shouting at these guys for 20 

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minutes. 
Sorry, I'm a weirdo, but I 

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thought maybe I would kind of 
get this, this last resurrection

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logic, the ultimate proof that 
got us for us. 

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I thought maybe I would maybe 
calm down a little bit and just 

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give you an illustration. 
I'll try. 

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So imagine with me for a moment.
You are out shopping. 

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OK, so you're out shopping and 
you pick up a couple items. 

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You don't need the cart, you 
don't need the the basket. 

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It's things that you can fit in 
your hand. 

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And so you're kind of walking 
around and what you do is you 

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find the lane with an actual 
human being to check you out. 

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And you're like sweet love that 
for me. 

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I kind of like humans a little 
bit, enough to interact with 

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them still. 
So you do the right thing, you 

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do the right thing and you go to
the checkout with the human 

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dude. 
I, I laid a joke on that one in 

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the first service and everybody 
just like do that nothing. 

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Anyway, So you go to the check 
out with the person and you put 

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your little items on the on the 
belt and person looks at the 

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belt, looks at you down at the 
belt, and then they look at you 

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and they say, you know what? 
I've got that. 

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Excuse me, what did you say? 
I've got that. 

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And the cashier pulls money out 
of his pocket, sticks it in the 

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till done. 
And you're like, why would you 

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pay for me? 
And he just smiles at you 

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kindly. 
You're like, OK, sweet, thanks. 

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Love that. 
I, I need to go to more cashiers

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because this is a great system. 
Well, so you're feeling really 

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good. 
You're like, I got my items. 

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I don't even need a bag. 
I can lightly walk away around 

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right now. 
I don't even have to carry 

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anything. 
I feel great. 

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This guy paid for my stuff. 
This is awesome. 

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But there becomes a problem when
you get to the door and of 

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course, of course they are there
and they're like, excuse me, 

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where's your bag? 
Where's your receipt? 

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Oh, I didn't get a receipt. 
And they're like, you're going 

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to have to come with Easter. 
And you're like, no, and you're 

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pleading your case. 
You're working hard to like, no,

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the cashier paid for my stuff. 
I promise. 

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All this kind of stuff. 
And eventually security walks up

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because now there's a scene and 
they like, they walk you because

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that's how they walk. 
I don't know, that's how they 

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walk, I guess. 
So they walk you to the little 

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room with like weird glass 
window. 

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And I know that because I've 
been in one. 

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Don't ask me why, that's a 
different story. 

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Sorry. 
So they walk you into that 

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little room and man, as you're 
walking there, what happens is 

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you are frantically looking at 
the checkouts and you're like, 

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where's the cashier? 
Where is the cashier? 

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I, they can prove I'm innocent. 
Where are they? 

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Poof, gone. 
Cashier is nowhere to be found. 

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Lucky you. 
Great. 

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Now I have nothing to prove my 
innocence. 

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I have no way to prove that this
all has been paid for me. 

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I have no proof. 
Well, they really give you the 

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business and they're like, we're
pressing charges and three days 

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later, three days later, you're 
standing before a judge still 

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with no proof, no way to prove 
that you were paid for, no way 

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to prove your innocence. 
And out of nowhere, out of 

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nowhere, the cashier walks in 
and the cashier walks up to the 

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judge. 
And it's like, hey, judge, Nope,

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hold on. 
Wait. 

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I am standing right in front of 
you and I am proof that that was

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paid for. 
I am proof that this person is 

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innocent. 
Do you see it? 

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Do you see that the cashier is 
Jesus? 

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Do you see that the payment was 
the cross? 

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And do you see that his presence
standing in front of the judge 

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is the resurrection for you? 
Do you see it because when Jesus

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walks into the room and you've 
been accused, he walks in alive.

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He walks in alive and well and 
he is standing before the judge 

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and he is interceding for you. 
You have no reason to fear. 

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You have no reason to have 
guilt. 

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You have no reason to have shame
the the the risen Son of God, 

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the resurrection of Jesus Christ
tells you and it tells me that 

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we are free. 
Love that idea of Jesus walking 

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him to the judge for me because 
I need it, man. 

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I need him to represent me. 
I need him to tell the judge of 

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my innocence and he does and he 
can because he's alive. 

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So what are we going to do with 
that? 

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Is it just here or by the Holy 
Spirit? 

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Is it moving down into here? 
Can the truth of the 

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resurrection move all the way 
down from your head into your 

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heart? 
By the power of the Holy Spirit 

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will pray for it. 
And you don't know it yet, but 

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I'm going to tell you, hopefully
you don't think it's weird. 

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I have been praying for you all 
all week. 

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And I don't say that just 
because I'm a pastor. 

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No, I've been praying for all of
you all week. 

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And here's what I'm praying. 
I'm praying that Jesus's 

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resurrection love, that it goes 
all the way with you. 

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I've been praying that Jesus's 
resurrection security holds you 

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tight so that you walk out of 
here held by him, but also free.

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And I am praying, and I will 
continue to pray that Jesus is 

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resurrection proof. 
It puts the love of God so 

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squarely in your head and your 
heart that you can't help but 

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move out of here in absolute 
freedom and joy. 

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That is my prayer for you. 
May God do it. 

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Thanks for listening to the ERC 
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is doing. 
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