1 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,120 Happy Monday. Pastor Matt's back in with you. 2 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,160 Pastor Chris is is also here. I'm here. 3 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:23,160 I'm Preston accounted for. I had the visual just like snafu 4 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:27,320 of how we see Pastor differently when Chris is attached to it 5 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,800 then Pastor Matt like. Well, I think there's an air of 6 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:36,440 like maturity when we say Pastor Matt and then matching my 7 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,760 personality, there's an air of immaturity when we say pants to 8 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:41,520 Chris. But I just had like, I don't 9 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:42,840 know. That's when you said even when 10 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,800 you said that I have like the misspelled visual. 11 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,160 I had it this morning. It's like PASTER like we we say 12 00:00:48,160 --> 00:00:52,320 pastor, like not pastor. It's it's pastor Chris. 13 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,320 I don't know, I don't know. That's a weird. 14 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,480 The only time I hear anybody, the only time I ever hear 15 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:02,800 anybody really emphasis the emphasize the ore on pastor is 16 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,360 when you order from a Mexican restaurant. 17 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,680 You know what I'm? Talking about pastor, like 18 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,920 pastor tacos El pastor, yeah. See, that's when I hear the hard 19 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,720 OR is tacos El pastor. Right. 20 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,440 Or pastoral like that that full word. 21 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,440 Yeah, we I guess it's not like an O It it is Pastor, pastor. 22 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,560 Pastor. You get a little nasally. 23 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,880 Though you get a little nasal, see it, it works. 24 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:35,400 When you get a little nasally on it, you're like, hey pastor, did 25 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,000 you have good Sunday pastor? You have a good worship set, 26 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:44,240 Pastor. I mean, why not? 27 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,560 90 seconds in and we're off the rails. 28 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,200 Welcome to the ERC Leftovers podcast. 29 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,360 We try to continue the conversation and offer a little 30 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:59,600 more insight, a different level of depth on the weekends sermon 31 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,640 and message. Things that we either didn't get 32 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:07,200 to in the message or were were left unsaid or just our further 33 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,639 line of thought from the messages at Emmaus Rd. 34 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,440 Church here. So we were yesterday you closed 35 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:18,120 out the four FS, faith, family, fitness and finances. 36 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,040 So this past week was, was finances and I thought, man, 37 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:27,920 like I in the moment, I do not remember the sermon of yours in 38 00:02:27,920 --> 00:02:32,440 the moment that I was just like, he's absolutely crushing it. 39 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,760 And that's not, and that's not to say like, like I, I enjoy, I 40 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,680 enjoy your preaching. I've had other messages before, 41 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,800 but just, I just thought like start to finish the stories that 42 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,680 you told the, the analogies that you made and the conclusions 43 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:51,360 that you like drew out of those stories and the scripture like 44 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:55,600 it was, it was a master class in communication yesterday, man. 45 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,000 And not maybe not everyone felt that way. 46 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:01,800 I, I did and some of the other people I talked to did so well 47 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,640 done. I, I thought like you prefaced 48 00:03:04,640 --> 00:03:06,680 it. Well, finances is this awkward? 49 00:03:06,920 --> 00:03:09,720 Hey, how much going into this message? 50 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,040 How much is he going to tell me to put in the plate this week? 51 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:13,200 Like that's, that's where we're going. 52 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,600 And it wasn't, I didn't think it was that at all. 53 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,320 And the other part of it, we'll get to it later as we, your, 54 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,720 your main text was in Matthew 6. And we'll, we'll go through some 55 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,080 more of that. But then the, the 2nd 56 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:28,040 Corinthians 9 passage to the, the other part of that, that 57 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,120 struck me in the moment. And you drew out really well. 58 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,720 You, you asked the three reflection questions quickly. 59 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,880 Did I tell you what percentage did I tell you amount of money 60 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,880 to give? Did I tell you that you have to 61 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:42,920 give to, to come here? As you were asking those 62 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,560 questions and I was looking at the words of, of 2nd Corinthians 63 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:50,000 9, like I had I in the moment, I had like, and you, you jokingly 64 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,720 said not a salesman or, or, or like you've said that before 65 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:54,760 too. And I was just like, this is the 66 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,560 worst sales pitch ever, man. Like because because you're like 67 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,920 even even from you and me. God loves a cheerful giver. 68 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,760 OK yeah, sure it's true. And an emphasis then on the 69 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,800 cheerful part, right, that that's what you brought out and 70 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,880 that's of of that phrase. The cheerful part is what 71 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,320 matters to God in that. But like, again, in the 72 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,800 profession that we've opted into and you're not being the 73 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,880 salesman of, of make sure that like I have a job by your 74 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,160 giving. Like we, we could sinfully and 75 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,400 selfishly like focus. OK, But it's important that you 76 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,120 give because that's I'm I'm here. 77 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,440 I'm so my livelihood is supported by your giving or even 78 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:36,440 in that phrase that you I could bring go to a point of I don't. 79 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,440 I honestly don't care that you give cheerfully as long as you 80 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,680 give because that's right. Like, and that's not what you're 81 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,800 saying at all. But but I had that thought. 82 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,760 No. That's so funny you say it that 83 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,720 way. I had that thought process in 84 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,920 the moment of like this dude's nuts. 85 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,880 Like we do, we do in order to like even just perpetuate and 86 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,560 continue on. We just we need the giving part 87 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,520 of it. And like this we're we're insane 88 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:07,360 for having opted into this of just depending on the the as 89 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,360 people are led to give in their heart like we have no guarantee 90 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,080 of anything. And we're just like, yes. 91 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:17,040 So well, part of that comes to Pastor Jason Lang when he was 92 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:21,240 here and I'd kind of announced and we had talked through the 93 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,120 possibility of me going to seminary and going in to 94 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:29,680 ministry as a full time career. You know, he told me the reality 95 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,040 of that. He said, listen, Chris, he's 96 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,880 like every single paycheck you will get for the rest of your 97 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,040 life is a gift. It is not earned. 98 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,920 It is not something that you quote UN quote deserve. 99 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:45,920 It is a gift from God and from your people because they believe 100 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:50,160 in how the gospel is moving and being taught and how that's 101 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,080 working out in and through your ministry. 102 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,120 He's like, and that's true no matter where you go. 103 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,600 And so I took a little while to think about that going into 104 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,520 seminary. And the first like, quote, UN 105 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,880 quote, like paycheck I ever got from being in ministry full 106 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,600 time, man, it hit me like a ton of bricks. 107 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:12,680 I was like, this paycheck exists because people believe in what 108 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,800 God's Word says and they believe in the ministry that's happening 109 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:17,840 right here that I get to be a part of. 110 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,160 And so, yeah, I absolutely, I take that seriously. 111 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,920 And I also take it from the sense of like, I'm never going 112 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,360 to be afraid. I'm never going to be afraid of 113 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,880 not being able to feed my family because God is faithful and 114 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,800 through God's faithfulness, He will spur on in ways that I 115 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,360 probably don't even understand. He will spur on people to give 116 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,960 to ministries that matter. Yeah. 117 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,000 And that's really well, really well said. 118 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,800 And I don't feel that fear either. 119 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,720 Just it just kind of struck me like God, the the mind of God 120 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,400 versus the mind of man, like rationally, that that's an 121 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:59,920 insane thing for a regular person should be up there and 122 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:03,080 not and be preaching to people saying I don't want you to give 123 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:07,840 reluctantly or under compulsion. It supports my livelihood and it 124 00:07:07,840 --> 00:07:10,520 supports what I'm doing here and in and in that vein, yes, 125 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,600 incredibly grateful. We are Christian says we thank 126 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,760 you for your your partnership in the Gospel. 127 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,520 And that's yeah, incredibly grateful for for the giving that 128 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,080 there isn't worry or fear really. 129 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,960 I I never have that we should in the reading of that text. 130 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,720 We potentially should have worry or fear because it's wholly 131 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,760 dependent on the generosity and and heart leading of people to 132 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:36,040 give. But in that just met with met 133 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:40,600 with gratitude, met with thankfulness for for for you all 134 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,000 at this church and and how God has LED you to support and 135 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:48,840 believe and and invest in this for I mean, we're in the this 136 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,280 congregation is in its 5th decade and heading strong 137 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:56,720 towards 50 years and really cool to be a part of so thankful. 138 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:58,560 Yeah, I had. It was interesting. 139 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,320 I did have somebody who will go unnamed. 140 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,800 I had somebody go so like, this is your job. 141 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,640 And I was like, yeah, it's it's how I feed my family. 142 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,400 It's how I, you know, pay the bills. 143 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,360 And they're like, yeah, but but but who pays you? 144 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:19,520 And I went, well, you do seriously. 145 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,520 Like I don't Somehow, somehow for this person, they had not 146 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,640 made the connection that what they give to their local church 147 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,920 is in, you know, it goes to a lot of different things. 148 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:36,600 But one of the places it goes is so that I can, can I and you can 149 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:41,240 and Kristen can continue this work formally Speaking of making 150 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:45,280 sure that the gospel goes in, in our, it's taught to our people 151 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:50,040 and you know, all that. But yeah, it just, it struck me 152 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,680 funny and I didn't laugh at them because I knew that'd be really 153 00:08:52,680 --> 00:08:54,040 disrespectful. Right. 154 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,760 And I did laugh and I don't, I don't want, I don't want that to 155 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:00,200 be disrespectful at all. And it is if I'm doing the the 156 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,360 math quickly in my head and we're completely transparent. 157 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,080 You can, you can grab a copy of the budget at the connection 158 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,520 center anytime that you want it. Just quick math in my head. 159 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:17,240 I think we're in that like 45 to 50% of our budget is for it's, 160 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:21,400 it's for staff pay and between between the three of us. 161 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:25,560 So I mean that's half of every dollar is given is for us to do 162 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,320 the work of the gospel that you all that you all believe in. 163 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:32,360 And and for us to lead and shepherd this people in that, 164 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:36,640 that, that is what that goes to. So it's not, I mean, it's not a 165 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,560 crazy question like who who pays you? 166 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:44,320 Because on the other side of that, there's definitely other 167 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,680 churches and you and you hit it on the head that they might have 168 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,800 an expectation of this is how this is how many zeros you have 169 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,040 to put on the check to, to be here. 170 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,200 This is the we want to see your income. 171 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:59,000 So we know the percentage that you're giving and it has to be 172 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:04,200 XYZ because likely at those churches, most of that money is 173 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:09,080 not staying in that congregation or that community actually. 174 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:14,760 So that's, yeah, not a strange question to me at all. 175 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,320 Because you don't, you don't know where that money is going 176 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:19,440 or staying. And yeah. 177 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,760 Well, and I think it's interesting to the fact that, 178 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:29,400 gosh, I keep on going back to every single dollar you receive 179 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,760 as a gift. I just, I constantly go back to 180 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,000 it in my head. I mean, honestly, I every single 181 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,000 month that there is money deposited in my account, I'm 182 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,120 like, thank you, Jesus. You know, not that I not that 183 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:46,520 I'm shocked to get it, but in some way it just, it positions 184 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:51,440 my heart, you know, to always receive everything with with 185 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,680 gratitude and thanks. And I think what that ultimately 186 00:10:54,680 --> 00:10:56,840 does, and then in the Bible talks about this, what that 187 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:01,240 ultimately does is it provides a level of contentment that I 188 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:05,560 don't think I had in secular jobs or careers. 189 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,600 Because in, you know, here's the thing in, in secular work life, 190 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,680 everything I got, I was like, yeah, I worked my butt off for 191 00:11:13,680 --> 00:11:14,640 that. I deserve that. 192 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,880 That's mine. In fact, they owe me more 193 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,480 because all the unnamed hours I put in and all this kind of 194 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,520 stuff. But I've never had that attitude 195 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,960 in ministry. And it's not because like, I'm 196 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,360 this perfectly enlightened person, it's because. 197 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,080 Or even that they're paying you a boatload of cash because 198 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:37,600 they're not spoilers. They're not spoiler, but but I 199 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,880 just, I, I took what Jason said is truth and I take that 200 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,040 seriously month in and month out. 201 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:48,280 And I absolutely believe it in my bones that it is a gift to be 202 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,120 able to do ministry and still feed my family and pay the 203 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,680 bills. And I cannot imagine any other 204 00:11:54,680 --> 00:11:57,520 thing that I could be doing which would be more life giving 205 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:03,480 in terms of my, my spirit, my soul, like the what I enjoy as a 206 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,480 human being. It's so life giving to be able 207 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,960 to do ministry, particularly with this group of people right 208 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,560 here in DeWitt. And because I have done ministry 209 00:12:12,560 --> 00:12:15,920 in other places and it has not been so fulfilling. 210 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:20,520 But here it's like, I just feel like we, we've arrived, we're, 211 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,560 we're home and we just absolutely love it here. 212 00:12:23,560 --> 00:12:26,920 And so it does feel like a gift to be able to do both ministry 213 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,000 and to make a living wage on that. 214 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,040 Yeah, yeah, it's awesome. So thanks for having us as a 215 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,120 part of your community here. Thank you for being a part of 216 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,240 our church community. We wrapped up the four FS, 217 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,360 faith, family, fitness and finances, refreshed some books 218 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,600 on the ERC picks, kind of the, the books that we have available 219 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,800 that kind of align in those spheres of life. 220 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,280 There's another we, we had the total money makeover from Dave 221 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,520 Ramsey out there. Of course, Financial Peace 222 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:55,760 University is going on right now. 223 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,640 I think there's, I think there's 10 couples doing financial peace 224 00:12:59,680 --> 00:13:01,280 right now, which is, which is awesome. 225 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:05,240 So like, thank you, you guys for for responding in these things 226 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,280 as as we are trying to, we're not just up there waxing 227 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,680 eloquence about these areas. We are trying to like after 228 00:13:10,680 --> 00:13:14,880 offer practical solution and encouragement to to biblically 229 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,440 align these areas of your life within, Yeah, in a Christ 230 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,480 honoring Christ following way. So thank you for responding to 231 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,640 and engaging in, in things like that. 232 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,800 But in addition to that, the the breaking be wow, the breaking 233 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,960 free from broke that that was another money book that we put 234 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,440 out there too. That's George Campbell. 235 00:13:34,560 --> 00:13:38,600 Is it camel, camel, camel? I haven't read that one yet, but 236 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,120 I bet it's excellent. Yeah, and he's one of the guys 237 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,880 on the on the Ramsey podcast that is, is one of the main guys 238 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,560 if you listen to yeah, if you listen to Ramsey, it's George 239 00:13:47,560 --> 00:13:50,680 from the Ramsey podcast. But so his book's out there. 240 00:13:50,680 --> 00:13:55,000 We've got a couple other ones. I was the welcome to adulting, 241 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:05,280 but I think it's JP Paduca, John John Paduca, JP So and and it's 242 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:06,320 funny because he took the premise. 243 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:10,440 It's, I think, I think it is family, friendships and finances 244 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,640 like this. So he even within this book, I, 245 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,240 I put it on the, I put it in the faith category. 246 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,800 But but it's yeah, no, it's faith, faith. 247 00:14:18,680 --> 00:14:20,480 I think he did faith, family, friendship and finances. 248 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:25,440 Where is the subtitle of that? So, so friendship in there, not, 249 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,800 not fitness necessarily, but anyway, it aligned with the FS. 250 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,520 He used a lot of FS too. And that was, that was a great 251 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,560 resource that I enjoyed. But welcome to adulting. 252 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:38,440 Whether you're not quite at adulthood or you're mired in in 253 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,520 your second, third, 4th decade of adulthood and still feel like 254 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:46,680 you're a child, I don't know. I take, I take the phrase child 255 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:50,960 of God very seriously and therefore I act as such often 256 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,000 times. And it's been working out for me 257 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,840 pretty good. But maybe before you leave for 258 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:01,880 the summer, I ought to start adulting because when you leave, 259 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:06,040 the adult leaves the room and you're leaving the room for for 260 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,120 a decent amount of time, several weeks. 261 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,680 And so, I mean, I don't know. I don't know what you're going 262 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,480 to be walking back into in August, bud. 263 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:15,640 I'm not sure what that's going to look like. 264 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,560 Great. So encourage you to continue 265 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,760 using those resources. Again, the ERC pics are out 266 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,160 there for you to just kind of see and hold and leaf through 267 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,560 the book and and get a taste of it before you actually order it 268 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:27,760 online. I know sometimes you can be 269 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,520 flying blind with is this book what I want it to be or what I 270 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,600 was expecting. So you can look at them before 271 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,920 you buy them out there and just continue, yeah, continue your 272 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:40,360 education in in the ways of yeah, that God would have us go. 273 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,560 It's I'm not saying any of these are replacement from the Bible, 274 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,080 but a lot of them are derived from the Bible. 275 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,720 A lot of the thoughts in there are biblical following and 276 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,440 experience from from Christ's followers applying them to these 277 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,080 areas of our life. So encourage you to check those 278 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:59,480 resources out, 'cause the world is crazy and we need to not be, 279 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,280 not be crazy. There's a lot of, there's a lot 280 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,560 of wild things going on in our world right now. 281 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,840 And of course encourage you to be constantly in prayer over all 282 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,760 those things of, of our, of our leaders and, and earthly 283 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,520 authorities and, and just people in, in general. 284 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:17,000 But the, the craziest things that are happening, man, there's 285 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:22,440 exploding trees everywhere, 'cause it's cold everywhere. 286 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,520 There's just apparently there's just exploding trees everywhere 287 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,520 from the cold. I don't know. 288 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:33,200 Have you heard about this? I mean, it's a hilarious 289 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:37,480 concept. Just trees floating all over the 290 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:38,720 place. Just what? 291 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:40,960 What? What? 292 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:45,160 No, no, come on. So I don't know, yeah, there's, 293 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:46,960 I think it's the same picture. I feel like it's the same 294 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,120 picture that I see virally over social media. 295 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:55,080 And honestly, it looks like this tree's trunk got like got shot. 296 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,440 Open it there's there's no way it exploded this much. 297 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,520 Like just from the cold. I get how sonics works. 298 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,320 Ice water, when it freezes it expands right? 299 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,240 Like ice. You can fill a bottle of water, 300 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,760 put it in your freezer and that cap will probably burst off 301 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,200 because the the ice occupies more physical space than the 302 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,000 liquid water. That's just how physics and 303 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:19,160 thermodynamics work. Hashtag not a teacher or expert 304 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,920 or anything but like I use the word thermodynamics so you have 305 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,280 to believe me. That's a good word. 306 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,200 I like that one. So like it makes sense the 307 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:32,000 moisture in the tree, if it got cold enough, would solidify and 308 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,520 kind of like expand, right, the the mass of the tree potentially 309 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,440 beyond its bark. But I don't know if it's people 310 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,600 just trolling because there's lots of areas of the country 311 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,720 like like Texas and and some of the Carolinas and stuff that 312 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,520 are, that are mired in an unseasonable cold, like a 313 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,480 generational cold that they don't usually get. 314 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,240 So I don't know if it's just people up north just like 315 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,440 throwing these troll bombs down at a you guys better watch out 316 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,400 for those exploding trees. It's going to get cold enough. 317 00:18:00,120 --> 00:18:02,520 We deal with this all the time in Minnesota and and North 318 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,640 Dakota. But like Texas, get ready for 319 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,920 some exploding trees. That's why there isn't a higher 320 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,200 population in like Alaska because there's so many 321 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,880 casualties from exploding trees. You're just, you're walking 322 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,720 through the forest, you're taking a nice little stroll, 323 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,440 you're looking at the the wildlife and boom, exploding 324 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,640 tree and all you all of a sudden you have like wood shrapnel and 325 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,840 you're like, Oh no, I got caught by the exploding tree. 326 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:30,120 I am yet another casualty. This is how I imagine this 327 00:18:30,120 --> 00:18:32,200 thing. And in my head, it's both 328 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:36,120 terrible and and just hilarious. Yeah, like. 329 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,080 I don't it doesn't, it doesn't look to me like this is a 330 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,160 widespread craziness, but it was just it was just something that 331 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,120 I saw and I'm wondering if yeah, wondering if people are actually 332 00:18:45,120 --> 00:18:46,920 worried about this. The other thing Kristen brought 333 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,960 up the and again, I don't know if it's just a trolling people 334 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,200 who don't usually have to deal with cold sort of thing. 335 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,320 There was, I think there's a girl who like she put a sock on 336 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,440 and then she wrapped her foot in in aluminum foil and then she 337 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:03,720 put another sock on so that it could like retain heat in her 338 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,440 foot. And I, it looked like are are we 339 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,880 just, are we trolling people in temperate climates that like 340 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,840 better put foil on your foot. That's how you keep your toes 341 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:12,920 warm. You don't know how to deal with 342 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,240 cold. So I'm going to like it seems 343 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:16,520 really mean. It would be, really. 344 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,520 Funny to have a bunch of people in like Texas walking around 345 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:23,440 with tin foil feet just because they believe some weird, some 346 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,000 weirdo in the north that this is how we do things. 347 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,160 I've never done it, I've never tried, and I still have all my 348 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,880 toes right. Yeah, that's like not even, 349 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,240 yeah, not even anything that's ever crossed my mind to do. 350 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:39,680 But yet somehow half the country gets thrown into a crazy cold 351 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,600 that they shouldn't have to deal with and. 352 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,600 You know what, maybe that's part of the armor, because it's part 353 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,880 of the armor to to defend yourself against the exploding 354 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:51,680 trees. You know you have to wrap 355 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,280 yourself in tinfoil because the wood will not penetrate the 356 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,360 tinfoil. It knows better. 357 00:19:57,360 --> 00:19:58,400 Pretty sure that tree should happen. 358 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,280 I was going right through that sheet that's in boil. 359 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,640 I don't think you're making armor right. 360 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,480 All I can see in my brain when I hear the phrase like exploding 361 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,600 trees is like a Hollywood level explosion. 362 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,600 That's all I can see in my head. It's not like this soft cracking 363 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,360 of a base of a tree and you're like, oh, that tree's toast now 364 00:20:16,360 --> 00:20:18,400 because, you know, it cracked up the middle. 365 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,720 No, I see like Hollywood level explosions happening and. 366 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,360 That's the thing. When it happens in nature, it's 367 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,760 probably very unspectacular. It's probably it's just like a 368 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,600 gradual, like cracking out of the. 369 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,080 I don't think all of a sudden that the ice is just like 370 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:38,360 couldn't contain that anymore. Whoever decided to call it 371 00:20:38,360 --> 00:20:41,880 exploding trees and not like cracking trees or whatever, 372 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,920 because you know, we don't say, OK, so let's say for example, 373 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,440 you're into ice fishing. Sometimes you will be on the ice 374 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,240 and you will hear the ice cracking. 375 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,440 That doesn't necessarily mean you're unsafe, but it cracks and 376 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,680 then it refreezes and, and actually it's a little bit 377 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,480 stronger after that process. So like, but we don't call that 378 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,480 exploding ice. When you're ice fishing, you 379 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,240 don't hear like this subtle crack happening. 380 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,200 You're like, Oh my gosh, the ice is exploding. 381 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,360 Like no, because that brings a very different picture into your 382 00:21:10,360 --> 00:21:12,840 brain that I think is unrealistic. 383 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,240 So you know, but maybe you know what, here's the thing, and I 384 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,680 Christian brought this up. Maybe the exploding trees is why 385 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,560 there's so many logs in people's eyes. 386 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,720 Let's make let's make an exegetical connection here. 387 00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:32,240 Exploding trees equal log in the eye facts check it do. 388 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,200 It Oh my goodness, yeah. It always, always comes back to 389 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:36,720 the Bible. We brought it back. 390 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,600 We brought it back. So yeah, let us know if you've 391 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,880 heard any other crazy, crazy things with the crazy cold. 392 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,800 We've got foil feet and exploding trees. 393 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:50,200 So anyway, that's what's that's what's happening in our psyche 394 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:51,360 this week. Stay warm. 395 00:21:51,360 --> 00:21:54,720 I think it's a high of 0 into it this week, like just all week. 396 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,160 It's not going to get above 0. So that'll be fun. 397 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:58,520 Yep. Really enjoy that. 398 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,640 Thank you God for the beauty of your creation and how cold it 399 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,880 is. It gives us reason to buy cool 400 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,600 winter jackets. It's great. 401 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:13,000 Yes, all right, we are in Matthew 6. 402 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:17,280 You preached on verses 19 through 24. 403 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,320 It it goes on. You kept a really, I thought you 404 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:25,320 did a really good job of, of keeping a succinct idea and, and 405 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,960 kind of similar vein throughout your message because you can go 406 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:33,160 into out after Jesus talks about not worrying about money and 407 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,360 laying up treasures in heaven. Then he gets into a whole 408 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,280 passage on, on worrying and, and how God will provide even for 409 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,080 the least of things. So why wouldn't he also provide 410 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,200 for you? So we can we can get into that 411 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,640 maybe a little bit later too, because I think it relates to 412 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:52,280 how we view money. But Matthew chapter 6, starting 413 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,720 at verse 19. Do not lay up for yourselves 414 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,040 treasures on earth where moth and rust destroy and where 415 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:58,920 thieves break in and steal. But lay up for yourselves 416 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,680 treasures in heaven, where neither must wrath, wow, moth 417 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,360 nor rust destroy and where thieves do not break in and 418 00:23:05,360 --> 00:23:07,120 steal. For where your treasure is there 419 00:23:07,120 --> 00:23:09,600 your heart will be. Also. 420 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,400 The main question I had out of that and even from yesterday, 421 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:19,400 what's the, what's the practical functional you, you use the 422 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,200 phrase of investing in the things of eternity, investing in 423 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,280 the things that last. Why would we? 424 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:28,280 You asked the question, why would we invest money in, in 425 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,560 things that we cannot keep in a place we cannot stay? 426 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:36,480 I thought that was great. So how do we how do we lay up 427 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,120 treasures in heaven though? Like how do how do we go about 428 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,280 where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. 429 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:49,760 I do think that it goes back to I, I asked kind of a kind of a 430 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,000 question during the introduction, which is what can 431 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,720 you take with you? You know, and ultimately 432 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,160 recognizing, and I'm not the original person who said it, but 433 00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:59,760 you can take people and praises with you. 434 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,600 That's what you get to take into eternity. 435 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:08,360 And so then, you know, you shift that and you say, OK, well, how 436 00:24:08,360 --> 00:24:12,600 then do I invest in people and quote UN quote praises, meaning 437 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,000 like worship of God? What what did those kind of 438 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,680 investments look like? How how do I practically start 439 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:24,720 to put my time resources, my energy resources, my financial 440 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,840 resources? How do I start to put that into 441 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:31,400 people and praises to grow the Kingdom of God, to grow an 442 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,200 awareness of the gospel of Jesus Christ and all those things. 443 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:39,000 And I think I don't think you have to try too hard to find the 444 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,520 right answer to that question then. 445 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:46,760 So like, if I'm going to start investing in people, OK, well, 446 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,680 that could look as simple as, you know, what I want to do. 447 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:54,480 Like we could go out to eat tonight or I could, I could buy 448 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,840 like really nice food and invite my neighbor over who I'm 449 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,680 friendly with but who doesn't really know Jesus. 450 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,720 Why don't I invite them over for like a nice dinner? 451 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,440 And why don't I get to know them to the point where we built a 452 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,640 relationship where it's now potentially comfortable to start 453 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,160 to have a bigger conversation about faith, You know, and that 454 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,000 doesn't necessarily happen real quickly necessarily, but it 455 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,280 could happen if I'm willing to again. 456 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:21,800 And it's a little creative, isn't it? 457 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,840 That scenario I just painted. It's a little creative, but I 458 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,960 think it does very much work in terms of, OK, I'm going to start 459 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,560 investing some dollars into reaching one more. 460 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,920 And that's just one of a million different ways you could do 461 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:35,880 that. Yeah. 462 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:41,760 And I think the tricky part with that is we don't always see like 463 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,720 an immediate dividend of that, right. 464 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:49,480 We don't, we don't always see the immediate payback or result 465 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,400 of of maybe some of these things start up in eternity. 466 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,520 But a lot of the time we, we have to, we have to recalibrate 467 00:25:55,520 --> 00:26:01,720 our expectations even for non money things with a with a money 468 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:07,160 lens, what's what's the most, what's the most powerful tool in 469 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,520 investment? It's time, right? 470 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:15,360 Like the you that that's that's the best what you set aside 471 00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:22,320 $10,000 now, OK, 30 years from now, yeah, that'll that will 472 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,520 have grown. But if you had set aside $10,000 473 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,640 thirty years ago and you're right now and what that has 474 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,440 grown into by now and will grow into the next 30 like that, that 475 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,280 time compounds, right? That the the interest compounds 476 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,720 over time. And I think those are, that's 477 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,320 more often what we should be focused on the, the, the concept 478 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,840 of, I mean, the currency of time being, being attention, paying 479 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,920 attention to the things, investing, sure, actual dollars, 480 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:55,280 but investing actual attention, actual time in people, in our, 481 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,000 in our praises, in our, our life of worship, how we rightly 482 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,800 Orient ourselves in our, in our faith in response to Christ, How 483 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:08,680 that forms the household or the family or what whatever that 484 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:13,360 looks like for you specifically. And then the outflow of that I 485 00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:16,480 think is, is then the last, the final two FS kind of the, the, 486 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,840 the fitness, the, the vessel, the temple that we are for 487 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,240 Christ to move in and through us through the, through the Holy 488 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,560 Spirit and be an example for other people. 489 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,480 And then, and then the finances are the outpouring. 490 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:33,040 It's, it's, I feel like Ramsey, the Ramsey people, they come 491 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,640 back to this all the time. You, you'd live like no one else 492 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,880 so that you can live and give like no one else, right? 493 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,200 Like that's, that's, that's the whole point of getting in 494 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,560 control of your finances, to be able to have an outpouring of 495 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:52,800 generosity that is not of this world that that is not conformed 496 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,480 to the pattern of this world, right? 497 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,720 That's that's the result. Yeah, well said it. 498 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,920 It actually, it makes me think that one of the interesting 499 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,920 things that now I'm just now this moment tying back all the 500 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,840 way to the very first F of faith and and you and you said the 501 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:13,600 word focus, right? So man, how am I investing my 502 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,440 focus, you know, into these different areas of my life? 503 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,000 And again, if you try and do all these things all at once, So 504 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,640 man, I'm going to read the Bible every day and I'm going to make 505 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,480 sure I spend X amount of time with my kids and my spouse every 506 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:27,560 day. And I'm going to get to the gym 507 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,320 this many times a week. And I'm going to do this with my 508 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,120 money. If you try and do all that at 509 00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:34,440 once from like a cold start, it's going to be way 510 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,680 overwhelming. But I do think that like Matthew 511 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,280 633, we talk about it all the time. 512 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,920 We got the key chains like seek first, you know, the Kingdom of 513 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,520 God and all these things will be added to you. 514 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,320 And that's why I think thinking about the four FS as a whole, 515 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:54,480 that faith, peace, man, everything can flow out of that 516 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,360 pretty naturally. I mean, there's going to need to 517 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,200 be some intentionality in some of these areas of our lives. 518 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:04,040 But at the same time, everything flows out of our heart position. 519 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,480 And we started talking about that. 520 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,960 Oh, we continue to talk about that yesterday, I should say. 521 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:14,640 But if my heart is aligned with the desires of Christ, all of a 522 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:19,320 sudden I want to love my spouse better than I have before or my 523 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,720 kids and I want to honor the temple that God has given me to 524 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,800 use. And I want to honor God with my 525 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,160 first and my best. And so everything flows out of 526 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,680 that heart position. So what a what a cool thing I 527 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,320 think when maybe maybe I'm wrong. 528 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,200 Maybe I missed the boat when we first created this four FS 529 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,840 thing, you, me and Kristen, but like it's tying together in ways 530 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,960 that I had not seen when we first came up with that concept 531 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,200 and it's beautiful. Yeah, I think it's a natural 532 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,880 progression of things and and they should be interconnected. 533 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:57,360 You talking about where, how we get to the point of putting our 534 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,200 heart there. Verse 21 for where your treasure 535 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:04,040 is there your heart will be also the, the next verse. 536 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,240 And, and you talked about it a bit too. 537 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,120 Verse 22. The eye is the lamp of the body. 538 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,720 So if your eye is healthy, your whole body will be full of 539 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,080 light. But if your eye is bad, your 540 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,280 whole body will be full of darkness. 541 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:20,160 If then the light in you is darkness, how great is the 542 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:25,800 darkness? You, you stated it very nicely 543 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,760 and calmly yesterday. I, I, I think there's a grave 544 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:34,280 warning here, right on, right on the tail of where your treasure 545 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,560 is, there your heart will be also because there's also that 546 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:42,520 the eye is the lamp of the body. So what we are looking at, what 547 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:47,440 we are looking for, our eyes drive what we chase after, but 548 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,320 which then dictates what we treasure. 549 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,440 So in a, in a way, our eyes, our eyes follow or our heart follows 550 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,840 our eyes too. And in the previous chapter in, 551 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,440 in Matthew 5, that's Jesus warning of if your eye causes 552 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:05,320 you to sin, gouge it out and, and better that you lose 1 553 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,520 member of your body than your whole soul be thrown into hell. 554 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,560 I'm glad you didn't draw out parallels with that because 555 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,840 again, I think we, you could have had a whole message on the 556 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,400 parallels of I being the lamp of the body and, and what we do 557 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,040 with our sin in that way. I'm glad you didn't dwell on 558 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,320 that. But just that's what this 559 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,080 podcast is for, to dig a little deeper into these into these 560 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,440 parallels. I don't know that by and large 561 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:33,560 we are serious enough about this warning this this means and 562 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,440 you'd have to stretch really far to like literally cut off body 563 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:38,920 parts here. Yeah. 564 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,160 Like that's, that's not, that's not what it is, but this, this 565 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,280 magical little box, this phone, like you, you need to know 566 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,440 yourself. And I think you did a good job 567 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,560 with the shoe, the shoe store thing like. 568 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,240 You, my mother-in-law got me so bad on that one. 569 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,080 But you know, that's what I'm saying, you know that you don't 570 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:06,080 have the self-control if you walked into the shoe store to 571 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,920 not buy something yourself. Control is not even going in the 572 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,160 shoe store. So like in that way, you've just 573 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,440 Nope. We're we're walking down, 574 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,960 walking down the strip here. We're we're walking down the 575 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,760 little outlet mall. We're walking past the shoe 576 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,800 store. Because if I go in there, I, I 577 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:27,320 will sin like, not in that, in that analogy, spending money on 578 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:28,840 shoes is a sin. And it doesn't have to be a sin, 579 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,720 but like, that's your weakness. You know where you'll end up. 580 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,800 You know the darkness that you will find if you let that into 581 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,640 your eye, right? And that's the thing, you know, 582 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,040 I think, I think, and I don't think I'm being dramatic here. 583 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,080 I think on some level it could be a sin. 584 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,200 And I'm talking about me personally, because here's the 585 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,640 thing, if I, if I go home right now and I just like, oh man, 586 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,480 like what shoes am I going to wear today? 587 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,200 That's for so many people around the world. 588 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,960 That's even an absurd question to ask. 589 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,200 Which ones will I wear? Some people are just like, I'm 590 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,440 happy to have a pair. Have shoes to wear? 591 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,960 Yeah, they're falling apart. And so I mean like, and, and I 592 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:12,640 need to, it's one of the things where I want to continue to grow 593 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,680 in my relationship with Christ is like, I know there was a 594 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,040 company that, and I can't remember who they are, but for 595 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,120 every pair of shoes that were bought, but you know, within 596 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,800 that company, they would send a pair of shoes to somebody who 597 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,600 probably doesn't have one. Tom's did that. 598 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,600 Tom's did that for a while. And like, quite honestly, if 599 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,520 I'm. Bombas does that with socks like 600 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,280 that, that that's become the the previous generation really has 601 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,280 been like A cause centered generation. 602 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,720 Much more likely to spend money on this if it's backing a 'cause 603 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:39,640 that I believe in. So yeah. 604 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,280 Yeah, and I like that. And I really think that that 605 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,320 could be something that I need to be willing to model in my own 606 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,280 personal life, in my own spending, especially in areas 607 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,200 where I think I'm probably going to be a little bit selfish. 608 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,640 And so again, we make I make jokes about it, but like there's 609 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,720 some reality to that of saying, like, you know, what, if I was 610 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:03,040 going to pick up my 19th pair of shoes that I own tomorrow, man, 611 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,720 maybe instead of doing that, maybe I should pick up a pair 612 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,840 for somebody who just doesn't have any and walk away better 613 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,920 than I would be if I took this new set home. 614 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:17,360 Like, and that's something that I think each of us and for most 615 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,360 people, it's probably not shoes. I'm just a sneaker head. 616 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,679 But like, I don't know what that is for you as an individual, but 617 00:34:24,679 --> 00:34:28,400 I think that is part of that self examination that we are, 618 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,960 that the Bible calls us to do. We are called to think 619 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:36,199 critically about how we use the resources that God gives us. 620 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,880 And that's not to say that we can't have nice things. 621 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,840 Of course we can. And and of course, like we can 622 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,639 honor God with those things. I'm not saying you should never 623 00:34:45,639 --> 00:34:48,719 have anything new, but I am saying that like when we have an 624 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:53,560 abundance, which I suspect is most of us in America, when we 625 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,840 have an abundance, then we have to think all the more critically 626 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,840 about how we're using those resources. 627 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,080 Yeah. And I think I mean, I think 628 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,600 that's a great idea, a great suggestion. 629 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:08,440 It kind of goes that there is a financial thought especially 630 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,560 with especially with luxuries or like like non essential items. 631 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,520 Like to your point, you really only need one pair of shoes. 632 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,720 Like like I mean, whatever dress shoes, sneakers, like you might, 633 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,600 you might need a couple different types of shoes, but do 634 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:25,800 you need more than one pair of sneakers? 635 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,920 Not in actuality. No, really not. 636 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:34,120 Really, so the the financial thought is, is kind of if you 637 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,760 can't buy it twice, you you can't afford it. 638 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,400 So I mean, bring that, bring that into generosity, bring 639 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:41,640 that, bring that into Christianity. 640 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,840 You want, you want this pair of shoes that you don't need. 641 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,720 It'd be nice to have you, you enjoy them, look good at them. 642 00:35:47,720 --> 00:35:51,520 But like could how would you feel if you bought one for you 643 00:35:52,240 --> 00:35:54,680 and bought one for yourself? First off, could you is, is it a 644 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,960 healthy financial decision to even do that or that puts you 645 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,840 out? Secondly, can that create a 646 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:04,720 heart posture of generosity of like, yeah, OK, if I'm doing 647 00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:06,360 that, what what's the, what's the good? 648 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:11,200 And then what, what am I actually in investing in future 649 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:16,320 wise or even bringing the Kingdom of heaven to earth wise 650 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,960 sort of sort of thing like can can you leverage your finances 651 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,760 that way too in in affording it twice? 652 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,240 And maybe the second portion is, is that model of, Hey, you buy a 653 00:36:25,240 --> 00:36:27,000 pair of shoes from us. We donate a pair of shoes to 654 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,040 someone else. Like we perpetuate this thing. 655 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,600 Can we do that with things in our life? 656 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,760 Like, hey, OK, you're stopping to you're stopping to get a 657 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:39,680 coffee quick at at Brent's. You know what get 2 bring bring 658 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,120 1 to a Co worker. And if getting 2 is like, I 659 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,640 don't have the money for that. Do you even buy one? 660 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:54,240 Like I'm not calling out sin or or guilt or or whatever, but can 661 00:36:54,240 --> 00:36:58,040 we leverage to me that's some of that where your treasure is 662 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,760 there your heart will be also. What's what's in that cup of 663 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:05,200 coffee for you? Can you, can you cultivate a 664 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:10,120 heart of generosity or just random act of kindness within 665 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,080 that within, within those things that you want or you are 666 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:17,360 predisposed to the other part of it and, and the warning part, 667 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,600 the eye is the lamp of the body. It's, it's your shoe. 668 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,200 I'll come back to the the shoe store thing. 669 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,120 You know how you know yourself really well, You know how you 670 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,920 will react. I think by and large, as, as 671 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:35,200 Christians, as as a church community, we just got to be 672 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,240 more real about that. We, we have to not, and not in a 673 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:43,920 not in a guilt or or shame way. Just knowing that the, the pull 674 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,280 and the temptation of sin is powerful. 675 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:50,160 And there are things that we just don't touch. 676 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,120 If you're I brought up, I brought up the phone. 677 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,400 They can't see me holding up the phone, but you saw me holding up 678 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,120 the phone. Like if there are things or 679 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:02,760 sins, whether whether it's sloth from scrolling or or 680 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,760 inappropriate sexual things on website like we have, we have a 681 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,120 computer on our phone, there's never that's never had access to 682 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:14,480 these things like ever before. It sounds crazy for me to say, 683 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,720 but like if you're wrapped up in some of those things, get rid 684 00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:22,680 that is the gouge your eye out sort of sort of language that is 685 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:27,160 get rid of that smartphone. You can find a phone that just 686 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,040 has calls and texts and and that is enough for you communicate if 687 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,200 there are things that are either wasting time or causing sloth or 688 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:40,120 causing sin on that phone, get it out that that's that's what I 689 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,240 don't think we take seriously enough in this that the the 690 00:38:43,240 --> 00:38:45,240 Bible does draw those boundaries. 691 00:38:45,240 --> 00:38:47,360 No, there isn't but I but I need for this. 692 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,360 Oh, but Oh yeah. So that justifies your sin. 693 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,320 No, it doesn't. There's only one thing that that 694 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:56,600 justifies you before God and Jesus and that's he's not 695 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,560 causing you to sin on on your phone. 696 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,160 So like what, what is that thing? 697 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,600 I think we just need to own that and be more real because we know 698 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,360 ourselves. What is that? 699 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:10,160 Does this TV show get you wrapped up in in either anger or 700 00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:14,280 desensitized to violence or, or again pushes you towards things 701 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,040 you shouldn't be watching, just keeping up with the news? 702 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:21,400 Does that does that heal your heart or, or does that build 703 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,280 anxiety and worry and strife for people in your heart? 704 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:29,200 Like that's the that's the danger here, gouging out your 705 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,320 eye. Your eye is the lamp for the 706 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:31,120 body. What are you? 707 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,000 What are you treasuring? What are you spending time and 708 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,360 attention on? How is it shaping you as a child 709 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,040 of God? I think we just need to be 710 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,800 stronger than that. I think we need to take better 711 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,240 stances on that and just drop Nope, this is I can't cross that 712 00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:45,840 line. I can't do this thing might be 713 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,760 really reasonable. It would sound crazy for you to 714 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,920 just walk up to regular. Yeah, John drawn some boundaries 715 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,160 in my life like I just I know the person I turn into when I 716 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,360 walk into a shoe store and I just don't want to go there. 717 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,360 Like I realize I realize that sounds nuts. 718 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,080 I I realize it might be insane. Yeah, this is this is my phone. 719 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,160 Got a got a cool flip phone. Can't browse the Internet on 720 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:08,720 this. Don't have TikTok on this. 721 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:13,000 I get how crazy that would sound to just like a normal person, 722 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:19,120 but I think that's the level of. Obedience and faithfulness that 723 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,040 we're called to. Like, how do we actually do 724 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,560 that? Identify those boundaries, 725 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,640 Identify those bounds. Identify those things that make 726 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,520 you end up in places of guilt and shame and sin. 727 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,880 Get them out. You know, it well said. 728 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,600 You could have preached this text from what I'm gathering 729 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,920 right now. But you know, one of the things 730 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,160 that Dave Ramsey talks about and we keep on coming back to him, 731 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,200 but he makes a lot of sense in a lot of different areas of life, 732 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:52,320 not just financially, but you know, he'll tell you financially 733 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:56,080 speaking that normal is broke because about 80% of all 734 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:57,840 families live paycheck to paycheck. 735 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,200 So that's the norm. The norm is to do that. 736 00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:03,680 One of the other things that he said, I remember, and I don't 737 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,840 know if he doesn't in the newest videos, but he he goes on kind 738 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,600 of this, I'll say the word rant. It's not a rant, but he goes on 739 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:16,080 this topic and he's like, so you know what's happening on this 740 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,680 reality show. You know what's happening on 741 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,240 this TV show. You know what's happening here 742 00:41:19,240 --> 00:41:21,280 and here and here. And he's like, you're telling me 743 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,920 you don't know what's happening on your own budget, throw a 744 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:28,120 brick through your TV and get your life right. 745 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,520 And so I think that's absolutely what you're right and that's 746 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:35,520 what you're talking about. Just, you know, a moment ago is 747 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:40,240 like, if I can't get my heart right because of my phone or 748 00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:43,680 because of this thing or that thing or man, throw a brick 749 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,280 through that thing, throw it in the ocean, whatever you have to 750 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,880 do. But let's let's start setting 751 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,600 right priorities. That actually makes sense both 752 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,360 for the health of me personally, the health of my family, the 753 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,080 health of my finances, whatever that looks like, you know, and I 754 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,240 and I think those are good things to do, but they're hot. 755 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,560 They're very difficult things to do. 756 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,440 They are, I mean, the first time, gosh it in that 757 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,480 illustration you're giving about the phone and going to a dumb 758 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,280 phone basically instead of a smartphone. 759 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,760 I have there have been so many times in my life where I'm like, 760 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,080 is that what I need to do because of sloth or any number 761 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,040 of other sins that come from having this stupid device on my 762 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,880 person at all times? And it's just like, man, that 763 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,280 is, that is, those are hard questions that I've personally 764 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,880 thought about. And like, it's so it's OK to 765 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,880 feel uncomfortable. In fact, in my, in my 766 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,520 uncomfortableness, what I'm dealing with is I'm letting the 767 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:46,080 Lord deal with the sin inside my heart, you know, And so man, 768 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,360 let's and, and you don't necessarily have to tell the 769 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,040 whole world, but let's start having those conversations with 770 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,280 the Lord. Let's start being a little kind 771 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:58,720 of introspective here about am I living for Christ? 772 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:03,400 Am I, am I living into the gift that He's given me, not because 773 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,360 I have to earn it, but because He's already done it? 774 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,560 And so like, am I showing gratitude through now the way 775 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,760 I'm living? Well, gosh, those are questions 776 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,800 that I think all of us individually need to ask 777 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,000 ourselves. And The thing is, nobody else 778 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,680 can answer it for you. That's between you and the Lord. 779 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,520 But let's, let's do that hard heart work. 780 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:26,120 And I think it reaps benefits that we do not even understand. 781 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,040 I'll say one more thing really quickly. 782 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:34,720 I am fully convinced there is blessing upon blessing upon 783 00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:37,760 blessing that the Lord wants to put into our lives, wants to 784 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:42,640 give us, and He's just not going to do that until He knows that 785 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,760 we're ready to receive that gift. 786 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,720 I am convinced that that is true. 787 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:52,320 So if I can look back on decisions I've made in my life 788 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,360 in a lot of different areas, whether that's finances or 789 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:58,280 relationships, I can actually look back and I can see points 790 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,360 where I'm like, you know what I bet God wanted to do in that 791 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,400 moment, but I wouldn't receive it. 792 00:44:03,720 --> 00:44:07,240 I wasn't ready for it. And I see it come back years 793 00:44:07,240 --> 00:44:09,640 later when I'm making better decisions and all of a sudden, 794 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,600 like these blessings just come in my life and I'm like, man, I 795 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,840 feel so fulfilled. And there's so much, you know, 796 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,600 so much good happening. I bet I could have had that a 797 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,280 decade ago, but God knew I wasn't ready for it. 798 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,000 And so like, let's prepare our hearts. 799 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,640 Let's prepare our lives and our decision making so that the 800 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:31,360 infinite God of the universe who has control of every good thing 801 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,280 will will do those things. And and we don't, we don't act 802 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:40,120 right so that God will bless us. We are blessed by the gospel and 803 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,920 therefore we act right, you know, And so I think all those 804 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:48,840 things are at play here. And I'm just, you know, anybody 805 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,080 who knows me, I am not a prosperity gospel person. 806 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,360 I would hit back against that so hard and twice on Sunday. 807 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,720 But I still believe that God wants to bless us, especially 808 00:44:59,720 --> 00:45:03,760 when we're ready to receive it. Yeah, no, absolutely. 809 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:09,600 And that's the, that's the fitness tie in, honestly, not 810 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,200 not just, not just physically, but it's the. 811 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,080 Oh, I like that. Am I fit to receive? 812 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,600 Fit to receive or the the parable of the of the workers 813 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,680 right of the of the talents where where one is left with 814 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,800 five and he turns it into five more and one is left with two 815 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,520 and he turns it into two more and one is left with one. 816 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:32,640 It stays one and and he in pride brings that back to his owner 817 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,000 and says, look here, here is what is yours. 818 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,040 What did you what did you do with that? 819 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,320 You weren't giving back what I already gave you. 820 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,440 You're not ready for more. You're not, you're not fit for 821 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,520 more. Like even as it relates to 822 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:54,080 money, it, it feels like at times more money would solve a 823 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:55,920 lot of our problem. I know what people have people 824 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,080 have debt or or bills or are paying off things. 825 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:02,320 And it feels like, oh, if I just had, I just had more money, I 826 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:06,200 would be better with it. Well, can we take a hard look in 827 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:10,120 the mirror and said, no, the reason, the reason we don't have 828 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:14,240 money because we're not good with it, like we're not handle 829 00:46:14,240 --> 00:46:18,440 it faithfully or responsibly. That's that's why we need, but 830 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,040 it doesn't make sense to just have more of it. 831 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,120 And if you had more of it, you'd end up in exactly the same spot 832 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:29,560 that you are and very kind of narrow, assuming there's not 833 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:35,960 like great strife or unforeseen financial hell or, or things and 834 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,840 that. But like by and large, we do 835 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,000 some of these things to ourselves. 836 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,600 Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, it's 837 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,920 been said before, but we, and I think you said it maybe even on 838 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:50,400 this podcast that we currently as we sit in this moment are the 839 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,400 product of every decision we've ever made. 840 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,040 So who I am right now financially or emotionally or 841 00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:02,760 whatever, I am the exact perfect product of all of the decisions 842 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,800 I've ever made. And I could not be different 843 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:10,160 sitting here right now because those decisions, those choices 844 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:11,920 have led me to this moment right now. 845 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,720 And so like, the same thing is true with finances. 846 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:21,200 And again, I don't mean to sound harsh, but I have lived with 847 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:25,880 being an idiot who's broke out of his mind not knowing how I'm 848 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,600 going to buy groceries for my family. 849 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,640 And if I was being honest with myself in that moment, which I 850 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,760 wasn't able to do, every single hardship I was facing that 851 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,480 moment and all the uncertainty was just the product of every 852 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,040 bad decision I'd made leading up to that moment. 853 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,520 So yeah, I've also heard it said, and I think it's true, 854 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:50,000 that more money doesn't make you different, it just bolsters what 855 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,760 you already are. So if I'm already a selfish 856 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,760 person, more money, it's just going to make me more selfish. 857 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,200 I'm just going to buy more. More shoes. 858 00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:01,240 Yeah, I. Mean now I need an entire closet 859 00:48:01,240 --> 00:48:03,240 for them going. To have to renovate a closet for 860 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:04,360 all my shoes that I'm going to buy. 861 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,560 Renovate a closet and it needs to be lit up and it needs to be 862 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,080 really fancy and all this, right, Yeah. 863 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,880 So I mean. Isn't that I have a throne? 864 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:17,720 I'm sorry. You smoked really well 865 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:18,520 yesterday. It was. 866 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,440 It was good. Well, the oh gosh, the throne 867 00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:25,040 that came out of nowhere. Really, that was in the moment. 868 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,400 Yeah. That was, I thought there was a 869 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,960 really logical progression of your of your hotel. 870 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,640 Story, well, the, the hotel story, like there is a 871 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,040 progression to it, but like talking about your toilet as a 872 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:41,320 throne, that was just me being a weirdo and actually just really. 873 00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,480 And, and here's the thing, sometimes I am wildly selfish. 874 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,920 And I'm selfish even how in how I speak because I said those 875 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,720 things to entertain myself. Like, you know, what would be 876 00:48:52,720 --> 00:48:56,520 really funny to me if I said it right now is talking about this 877 00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:00,640 renovation toilet thing as a throne, because I find that 878 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,200 really kind of humorous. And so I said it because I think 879 00:49:03,240 --> 00:49:05,760 it would make me laugh. There's no like pent up 880 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,760 subliminal frustration like do you do you need to replace the 881 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,640 toilet at your at your current rental? 882 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,040 Like do you need to go home and put a better throne in the 883 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,160 bathroom? I mean, I, I don't know, do I 884 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:17,200 maybe? I don't know. 885 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:18,960 I don't. I don't spend much time there 886 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,200 though. Like I don't, you know, I'm, 887 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,360 I'm, you know, sorry, here we go. 888 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:29,200 I don't, I don't sit there and play games for 1/2 an hour. 889 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:30,760 Like I just that's not the place. 890 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,280 I just wasn't sure if that analogy was too close to home 891 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,080 for like, if that was this is my life, I need a better throne in 892 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:40,720 my Life, OK. We are off the rails again. 893 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,040 Time. We held it together for a good a 894 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:44,080 good portion. Of time there. 895 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:45,200 We did. We did. 896 00:49:45,720 --> 00:49:49,560 I'm I'm proud of us. So proud the last final couple 897 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:54,920 of verses in Matthew 6 that you were in and we can jump to 2nd 898 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,000 Corinthians while we while we still have time. 899 00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:01,400 But oh, I'm in Matthew 5 the the gouging your eye out stuff in 900 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,920 Matthew 5. That's Matthew 527 through 30 901 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,760 ish is is that passage for more study and reflection. 902 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,600 But the final verse that you examine in Matthew chapter 6 903 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,520 verse 24, no one can serve 2 masters. 904 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:17,800 He will literally hate the one and love the other. 905 00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,640 He will be devoted to the one, despise the other. 906 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,000 You cannot serve God and money. Obviously a very specific 907 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,600 example here in the in the money preaching. 908 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,480 I didn't even get into any of that. 909 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,120 Like there was not time. You didn't, but I think I think 910 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,680 it's pretty easily understood even. 911 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:41,640 And there are people that I, I believe God has, God has gifted, 912 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:45,840 God has given them a skill and ability to make money like, and 913 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,080 that could be like, he's giving you gifts and skills and, and 914 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:55,040 mental processes and strategies to, to have a job or, or have a 915 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,800 process or, or just find a way to make money. 916 00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,280 That isn't readily apparent to people like I, I think that is a 917 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:07,440 gift from God. So in those ways, though, I, I, 918 00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,640 I feel like that that portion of people that have been given an 919 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:14,520 abundance or found a way, made a way to earn an abundance of 920 00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,840 money. But what's your why, what, what, 921 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,800 what's your, why is, is it, it, is it a heart of generosity? 922 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,280 Is it, is it a heart of a heart of selfishness? 923 00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:30,680 Is it for the pursuit of money? Or is it is it the pursuit to 924 00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:34,800 glorify God in that, in the in the way that that we would be 925 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,040 honoring things like I think that's I think that's the 926 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:41,280 caution here because you could you could replace money in this 927 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,160 verse with just about anything, right? 928 00:51:44,240 --> 00:51:46,040 Like you cannot serve God in shoes. 929 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,920 You cannot, sorry. I feel attacked. 930 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,240 You cannot, cannot serve God in guitars. 931 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:57,160 I got a lot of guitars like it's insert temptation here. 932 00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:02,200 You, you can't serve God and TikTok like whatever it might 933 00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,800 be, it's, it's more about, yes, the divided nature of our heart, 934 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:10,080 what we're paying attention to and then letting in with our 935 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,920 eyes. That's that's the caution here. 936 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:20,400 Absolutely. And I think, gosh, the not being 937 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,400 able to serve God and money, I think we always want a way 938 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,040 around that. I think we're. 939 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,800 Justify the necessity of the. Money, we're always looking for 940 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,840 a loophole when that verse comes up. 941 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:36,240 And I say that because I have met people who are actively 942 00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:40,600 seeking the loophole of that verse like, well, you know, if I 943 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:44,080 just do this and that's where, that's where I think the tithe, 944 00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:50,360 the 10% sometimes that is it's really, it can be really 945 00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:55,400 negative because let's say I'm making a six, I don't know, a 946 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,160 high 6 figure salary. Well, guess what? 947 00:52:58,240 --> 00:53:04,160 If I give God, my local church, whatever 10% of my very high 6 948 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,240 figure salary, am I even going to notice? 949 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,240 I'm. Not it's, you know what, I could 950 00:53:10,240 --> 00:53:14,840 be giving more than 80% of the rest of the congregation and I'm 951 00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,440 not even going to notice, therefore the position of my 952 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,480 heart in doing that. It's not any better. 953 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:22,680 It's not any better. You know, you look at the 954 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,600 widow's mite. We talked about this in my life 955 00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,120 group last night actually. We did too. 956 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,240 Yeah, good. So like, yeah, the widow's mite 957 00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,200 thing. Just very quickly, you've got 958 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,600 all these rich people giving out of their wealth and you've got 959 00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:38,680 this this poor, destitute widow and she gives out of out of 960 00:53:39,240 --> 00:53:41,880 being poor. And Jesus clearly makes the 961 00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,000 point and it's obvious she's given more than any of them. 962 00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:49,440 And so I mean, like, that's where like not you cannot serve 963 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,400 God and money. It's very real. 964 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,240 It's very real. And that's why we can't do a 965 00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,400 base percentage. We can't do any of that kind of 966 00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:01,200 stuff because it's always about heart posture and and doing 967 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:07,040 doing whatever we can cheerfully and joyfully for Kingdom work, 968 00:54:07,240 --> 00:54:09,200 not for us. Because that's the other side of 969 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:10,600 this. You don't need to make an 970 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:14,440 abundance of money to have the attitude of serving money. 971 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:18,120 You, you can have a minimum wage job and your heart can still be 972 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,360 in the place of, of serving money. 973 00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,320 Like that's, that's the thing that I'm chasing. 974 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,680 And that's, and that's why the even even when I don't have a 975 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,760 lot of it, it's still, it's still the thing that's defining 976 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,080 or, or directing your life, right. 977 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:35,600 I have heard it said before, and I think it's true that in fact, 978 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:39,320 people who tend to have less money, they're worshipping it, 979 00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:40,560 they're. Much more focused on it. 980 00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,160 They're much. More focused on it. 981 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:47,200 But that's but that's why I think this passage and and we're 982 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,760 not we're not going to deep dive into it will let you do some 983 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,840 personal study on it, but like you cannot serve God and money. 984 00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:57,320 The very next verse, therefore, therefore I tell you Matthew, 985 00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,680 Matthew 625 Therefore I tell you, do not be anxious about 986 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:02,960 your life, what you will eat or what you will drink, nor about 987 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:04,720 your body. What you will put on is not life 988 00:55:04,720 --> 00:55:06,960 more than food in the body, more than clothing. 989 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:11,680 Like that's it's spoken in a way to the desperate, to the 990 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:15,200 worried, to to the the widow's mites. 991 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,400 And they're kind of the, the ones with little. 992 00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,480 Are you, are you so worried about the little that you have 993 00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,920 or the little that you or the much that you don't have? 994 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,560 I guess that that now it is the fixation of your art that you 995 00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,440 are serving money. You're seeing that as the answer 996 00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,960 rather than what the Father has already blessed you with, 997 00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:36,880 already provided you with. And again, this isn't coming 998 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,000 from, I don't have a lot of money. 999 00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,000 Like, like we're provided for it. 1000 00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:47,760 We live comfortable lives. I I feel like that I feel like 1001 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:52,120 contented this in our don't have a crazy abundance could 1002 00:55:52,120 --> 00:56:00,600 certainly have less, but with with within that where's our 1003 00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:05,760 like it does that fuel my I I I don't have a lot, but I want 1004 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:13,080 more or I I don't have a lot and and how can I give out of what 1005 00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:18,600 I'm given what I've been given? Despite all the jokes and 1006 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,800 partial reality of the the shoe conversation that we've been 1007 00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:26,080 having about me, despite all that, God has done something 1008 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,520 pretty remarkable in in mine and my family's life. 1009 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,320 You know, we have come to the place where again, we have a 1010 00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,440 roof over our head, everybody's clothes. 1011 00:56:35,720 --> 00:56:40,600 We don't go without meals. And you can even ask my kids 1012 00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,720 like when we come to like Christmas or birthdays and 1013 00:56:43,720 --> 00:56:47,280 stuff, the number of times that they will say, you know what, I 1014 00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:51,680 don't, I don't really need anything or or rather like, 1015 00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:53,720 there's not anything really that I want. 1016 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,240 And so, but hey, well, for my daughter who's in college right 1017 00:56:57,240 --> 00:56:59,240 now, there's not anything I really want. 1018 00:56:59,240 --> 00:57:03,680 But hey, here's what I need. And that's been, I, I, I've seen 1019 00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:07,000 God move in and through our family in that way to reorient 1020 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,160 our hearts. And we're not perfect at it. 1021 00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:12,440 That's not what I'm saying. But I have seen God be 1022 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:16,480 incredibly faithful to take away some of those unnecessary 1023 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:20,240 desires. And Pastor Paul Lang told me 1024 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,680 that I don't know how many years ago, he because I, when I first 1025 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,840 became a Christian, I was like, yeah, but I like this and I like 1026 00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:27,440 this and I like this. And I don't think I'm going to 1027 00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,720 stop liking those things. And he's like, don't worry, you 1028 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,280 stay faithful in your relationship with God. 1029 00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:38,320 He will change your desires. And Paul Lang was absolutely 1030 00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,880 right. God has changed my family's 1031 00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:46,440 desires so that I'm not unnecessarily desiring more and 1032 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,240 more and more. And again, that wasn't me 1033 00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:53,240 willing myself into being this kind of like super Zen person. 1034 00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:57,760 That was me being faithful to God in that relationship and 1035 00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,800 then him changing my heart. Yes, that's how that works. 1036 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,520 I'll, I'll add on to that. I shared with our life group 1037 00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:07,360 last night kind of this when, when we first moved to DeWitt, 1038 00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,880 like we were still, I was working part time. 1039 00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,320 Emily was working full time with her masters. 1040 00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,000 We had three young kids, twins on the way. 1041 00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,400 I, I was, I was working on my masters. 1042 00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,280 Like we were crazy. We had, we had a lot of stuff 1043 00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:25,480 flying around, hospital bills and student student loan things 1044 00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,680 and paying for school and I was not working, I was not making a 1045 00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,280 full time salary and all these things. 1046 00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:34,800 And I just remember, I remember so vividly, we, we prayed 1047 00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:39,080 earnestly to not worry about money like that. 1048 00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:42,000 That was just the simple prayer. And you know what didn't happen? 1049 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:46,560 The the bills did not stop coming. 1050 00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:52,000 I don't say like, like the God didn't just like magically wipe 1051 00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,200 away the things that we were responsible for to, to pay for. 1052 00:58:55,520 --> 00:59:00,840 He also did not just like back a pad of cash into our driveway. 1053 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:07,400 That also didn't happen. But my heart and my focus in the 1054 00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,080 things of money and in what I felt like were these, these 1055 00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:16,520 debts and weights hanging over us, my concern for them fell 1056 00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:20,680 away. But God, God did relieve the 1057 00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:22,640 worry of the fixation. Are we going to, are we going to 1058 00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:23,800 have enough? We're going to be able to manage 1059 00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:24,880 this. We're going to be able to handle 1060 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:28,240 this and pay this down or whatever else like that that 1061 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,400 fell away. He, he did not like immediately 1062 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,960 remove or or even give more money. 1063 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,320 He did not remove the obligations and he did not give 1064 00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:38,880 more money. But what he did, he changed. 1065 00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:40,560 He changed my heart. He changed my focus. 1066 00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:44,880 He changed my trust that what we would get would be enough. 1067 00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,520 So yeah. That's amazing. 1068 00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,080 No, thank you for sharing. I did not know that about about 1069 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,280 you guys, this kind of story and when you first arrived. 1070 00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,600 I think that's that's amazing. Praise the Lord for that because 1071 00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,000 that's that's going to set you up for the rest of your life. 1072 00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:00,920 And honestly, to this day, that's. 1073 01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,720 And I'm not saying. I'm not saying don't make a 1074 01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:05,160 plan. I'm not I'm not saying don't 1075 01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,080 budget your money or pay attention to your money or care 1076 01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:09,880 or concern for it. But again, what's your what's 1077 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,400 your heart in that? What's the why in that is? 1078 01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:16,600 Is it is it because you're so worried about it that you have 1079 01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:20,640 to have a plan? Or is it to honor God Well with 1080 01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:24,200 those things? And I'm not, I'm not not worried 1081 01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,840 about money because I'm careless with money. 1082 01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:31,120 It's it's because I, I try to act in a, in a posture of 1083 01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:32,640 generosity. There will be some things that 1084 01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:36,640 seem kind of careless. Most of them are in a heart of 1085 01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,000 generosity that doesn't, doesn't make sense. 1086 01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:43,720 It seems careless, but it's, it's mostly out of that because 1087 01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,240 it's, as Kristen says, each week, it's all his anyway. 1088 01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,160 It's, it's, it's been a gift from him. 1089 01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:52,160 So why making it a gift for others is, is a pretty easy 1090 01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:56,880 posture to engage in. And that brings us to just this 1091 01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:58,160 final. I don't, I don't know how much 1092 01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,480 more we'll have on this. I think it's just it's all there 1093 01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:04,240 in in the text. 2nd Corinthians 9. 1094 01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:08,800 I'm going to read 6 through 9. The point is this. 1095 01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:12,120 Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows 1096 01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,560 bountifully will also reap bountifully. 1097 01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:18,160 Each one must give, as he says has decided to give in his 1098 01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,760 heart. God loves a cheerful giver, and 1099 01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,920 God is able to make all grace abound to you, so that you 1100 01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:27,360 having all sufficiency in all things at all times, you may 1101 01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,280 abound in every good work. For as it is written, He has 1102 01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,200 distributed freely, He has given to the poor. 1103 01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,080 His righteousness endures forever. 1104 01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,520 It's about the heart, God. God wants your heart. 1105 01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:46,840 He's given all for all, and He's given to the poor. 1106 01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,720 His righteousness is what endures forever. 1107 01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,440 Those are the things, those are the things that we should we 1108 01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,520 should focus on, we should rest in. 1109 01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:58,320 Those are the things that we should sow bountifully in to, to 1110 01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:02,240 then therefore reap bountifully in the harvest is plenty, but 1111 01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:05,160 the workers are few. Like can we, can we put the work 1112 01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:08,680 in to, to see the harvest to to do the, the harvest well? 1113 01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,280 But what have we sown? Have we sown well? 1114 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,640 Have we sown plentifully in order that God's God's Kingdom 1115 01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:16,680 reaps the harvest, and we're his workers in that? 1116 01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,000 So anything else? Amen. 1117 01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,640 God loves a cheerful giver. Yeah, no, that's great. 1118 01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:24,720 I, I have little to add to that at this moment. 1119 01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,960 And I think one of the things that you, I think you said it 1120 01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:33,560 twice in recently during this podcast is go and study. 1121 01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:37,000 Go and learn what this means. Jesus says that phrase. 1122 01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:40,840 Go and learn what this means. We love talking to you guys on 1123 01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,240 Sundays, on Wednesdays on this podcast. 1124 01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:46,280 We love talking to you guys. But man, like you know what you 1125 01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,880 get to do, Go and learn what this means. 1126 01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:54,120 And The thing is, God through his Spirit will work through his 1127 01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:58,120 word to enlighten your heart and, and well and to light you 1128 01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:01,360 up and to turn you into the person that you never even knew 1129 01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,880 you wanted to be. And again, that's why I'm 1130 01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:05,960 sitting here right now is because God turned me into the 1131 01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,240 person I never even knew I wanted to be. 1132 01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:13,280 And I'm so thankful for that. Yeah, because in that his we 1133 01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,800 love, we love doing this. We love offering more insight, 1134 01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:17,760 preaching and teaching on Sunday mornings. 1135 01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,640 But God's word is powerful enough on its own. 1136 01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,560 The Holy Spirit is powerful enough with the word to bring 1137 01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,120 you understanding, to bring even even without us. 1138 01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,320 I'm not saying we're not going anywhere. 1139 01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:31,800 We're here, we're we're here to talk and we're here for you to 1140 01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,400 ask questions and, and and be challenged with. 1141 01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,720 But like God's word in and of itself is that powerful to bring 1142 01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:39,240 you understanding. So. 1143 01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:42,880 Yeah. All right, thanks for tuning in 1144 01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:44,760 church. Appreciate you. 1145 01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:47,960 Stay warm this week in the terrible, terrible cold. 1146 01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:52,080 But God is good all the time. Have a blessed week.