1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:11,800 Here we go. Here we go. 1212 Yep, happy 2 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,280 Monday. Take 2A little with a little 3 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,240 extra on the intro because I forgot to arm a microphone. 4 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:19,640 That's my bad. It's fine. 5 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,640 You'll never know He was, Yeah, 10 seconds in, started over. 6 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,080 Pastor Matt's here with you on the ERC Leftovers. 7 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,520 Pastor Chris, wow, question. Yes, no, that's who I am. 8 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,000 That is who I am. And I will, I, I like saying it 9 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,120 that way. And if I stop saying it that 10 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,760 way, then man, our listeners would be so sad. 11 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,200 They'd be like why is Chris being so normal when he says his 12 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,320 name? I really, really drew it out. 13 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:47,640 Really drew it out. Added the question mark on the 14 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,480 end I. Can't go back now. 15 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,760 I've gone too far. I've done this too many weeks. 16 00:00:52,160 --> 00:00:54,760 I would have to apologize for all of the former weeks if I 17 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,520 went backwards and I don't want to do that. 18 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,880 You shouldn't have to, and I know you're not going to, so I'm 19 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:01,720 not even not even going to ask you to do that. 20 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,519 Oh, man. But Speaking of things that make 21 00:01:05,519 --> 00:01:07,000 me laugh, that you do. Come on. 22 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,040 Yes. Just another glimpse behind the 23 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,480 curtain here a little bit. It was only, it was only for the 24 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,840 first service, but I had brought up a few weeks ago, we, we 25 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,680 haven't always done this and we, it's not nearly a habit. 26 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,480 Haven't done it for a long time. I just every once in a while I 27 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,720 try to make sure that I know what page the, the scripture 28 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,160 passage for the messages and the in the Bibles that we have in 29 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,120 the sanctuary under the seats. And I got some feedback from a 30 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,000 few of that like that use those Bibles that like, that's really 31 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,160 helpful for me to just like, boom, count out the pages. 32 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:39,960 I know, I know where it is. I know where I'm going. 33 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,480 So I brought that up to you that hey, doesn't have to be every 34 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:44,720 week, but maybe a little more regularly. 35 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,800 We can be like, Hey, this is this is where we're at. 36 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:48,880 Helpful for a series like Roman. We're in Romans 8. 37 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,240 We're literally on the same like page now. 38 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,200 Now you know what page we're on and then we're on that. 39 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:58,400 We're on that page for weeks. But I wasn't I, I had the 40 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,280 feeling that you probably didn't have that ready to go in, in the 41 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,800 first service. So I quick, I get down from the 42 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,440 worship set and you're doing your intro. 43 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:06,640 Haven't gotten to the reading yet. 44 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,639 And I quick looked it up in the in the front, in the front row. 45 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,840 And I texted the guys back in the booth of like put a message 46 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,480 up there for Chris that the Bible number is is page 944. 47 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,680 So they put it up there and you're still, you're still doing 48 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,360 your like opening monologue, setting it up, setting the 49 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,160 context and everything. JT was actually back there like 50 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,120 under the TV, like pointing up at it, trying to get your 51 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,120 attention. And I look back and was like, I 52 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,000 was like, stop it because I know you're poker face. 53 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:36,720 Like if you see JT dancing around back there, like all hope 54 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,240 is lost. All hope was still lost because 55 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,520 you still just saw the message. And like, we got to make some 56 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,160 sort of rule that like any, anything on the screen, like 57 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,600 stays in your brain. It's not. 58 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,560 It's not a message broadcast for the whole room. 59 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:55,600 It's so difficult for me, I don't even know why, it just is. 60 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,880 It just broke the 4th wall just so hard. 61 00:02:58,920 --> 00:03:04,320 I just. You know, Dang it, I don't know 62 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:09,400 how to do that very well. It was an endearing moment. 63 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,000 I feel like everyone like, yeah, it was. 64 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:15,000 It was funny. I, well, you know, I, I, I 65 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:20,280 suppose, if nothing else, when, when I am on stage on it on any 66 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,040 given Sunday, you are getting the real me. 67 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:24,720 It's true. Like, they're very true. 68 00:03:24,920 --> 00:03:27,360 I'm not putting on a show, that's just who I am. 69 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,040 There's no doubt of that, yeah. So there you go. 70 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,040 You never have to question if the guy on stage is who he is 71 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:37,600 off the stage because yeah, I just flaws and all, there I am. 72 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,480 And what's even better, I didn't, I didn't cut that out of 73 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,800 the that's that's in you. You wanted the first service. 74 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,200 You wanted the first service to be posted on Spotify for your 75 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:48,960 message. So that little snafu is in there 76 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,760 because I don't usually nitpick those little edits. 77 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:52,960 It's it's fine. It'll be. 78 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:58,200 That's OK now. So fun fact, I don't, it's 79 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,200 unusual for me to go back into like listen to my own sermons 80 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,400 because I know it right now, I'm going to go back and listen to 81 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:05,600 at least the first couple minutes. 82 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,680 Here how that came out. Yeah, yeah, OK. 83 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,960 Spoilers. There's a little little 84 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,080 something in the a message from this week. 85 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:14,840 If you haven't listened to that or didn't catch the first 86 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,000 service, ah. Speaking of spoilers. 87 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,880 Spoilers. I have, I have a question for 88 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,680 you, OK. And this is a question that I 89 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,920 think is really important because it's about social 90 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:27,760 etiquette. It is. 91 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,080 It's really important social etiquette question in our 92 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,640 current day society. And the question kind of goes 93 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,720 like this. How long does a person have to 94 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:40,400 wait before they openly talk about the endings of movies and 95 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,760 TV shows like a mixed company? How long should you wait? 96 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,160 Wow. And so in books we're talking 97 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,120 about, we're talking about spoilers, endings of stories. 98 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,680 Yeah, endings of stories, books, movies, TV shows. 99 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,160 Like, how long do I have to wait until I just like, run my mouth 100 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,560 about so and so did this at the end and Oh my gosh, Can you 101 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:03,600 believe that twist? Well, I the the baseline, the 102 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,760 first thing that comes to my mind, and it's a little weird 103 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,400 because now we have, we kind of have like bingeable series. 104 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,960 It's funny how like shows have evolved. 105 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,000 You used to have to tune in like every before streaming. 106 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,640 Obviously you tuned in every Wednesday night at this time to 107 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,360 catch the show. And if you missed it, you better 108 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:25,920 pop your tape in the in the VCR tape recorder and, and have 109 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,480 yeah. Anyway, how far we've come now 110 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,520 you can bang next season of this show is out on Netflix and you 111 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,000 can just knock out 12 episodes in a day if you want, like. 112 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:41,400 I've done that before. So that's a little bit because 113 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,640 it used to be even in the not so. 114 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,360 And I'm not saying it it I'm just bringing this up because it 115 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,440 was a very followable series societally. 116 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,880 Like Game of Thrones was huge. Like the world stopped. 117 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,040 I think it was Sunday night's game of Game of Thrones came out 118 00:05:56,040 --> 00:06:00,640 and and Twitter social media was was just a Twitter with with, 119 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,160 with comments and every so like you knew there were these groups 120 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,440 of people just like following what was what was happening. 121 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:07,840 We're very far removed from that, right? 122 00:06:07,840 --> 00:06:11,240 Like we have no real perception other than maybe like movie 123 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,720 releases. I know season 5 of stranger 124 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,440 things that just came out like that was a big the conclusion of 125 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,280 this, that there was a little more of a following. 126 00:06:18,280 --> 00:06:20,120 So I think we still have glimpses of that, but like take 127 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:27,440 a take your house MD, the medical drama that was probably 128 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:31,080 20 years old by 15, at least that it that it ended. 129 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,360 Even if you've never seen it before, you even you watching it 130 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,120 for the first time, like there's probably a good portion of 131 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,520 people that you know that maybe have seen it before, but there's 132 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,680 also an equal portion who probably haven't. 133 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,600 But it's like, how do you distinguish what people have or 134 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,160 haven't seen? I don't know, mind. 135 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,160 And all that is to say my initial thought is however many 136 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:59,840 seasons the show is, it must be at least that far away from the 137 00:06:59,840 --> 00:07:04,920 final season. So, So Stranger Things, it's 138 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,680 five seasons, right? Season 5 just ended. 139 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,640 You have five years from right now, 2031. 140 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,120 You can talk freely about everything that happened in 141 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,240 Stranger Things. Wow. 142 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:18,720 That's not really based on anything. 143 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,400 That's just I just I just made that up because I think there's 144 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,400 also a few other parameters obviously OK to Star Wars. 145 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:27,680 You can't you. Oh man. 146 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,920 OK, and now. Star Wars. 147 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,760 That's, I don't even know, just be. 148 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,960 Careful say, I don't want to say the spoilers that I was going to 149 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,680 say, but like you can't give away the spoilers in Star Wars 150 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,440 to like a 5 year old, right? Like no, like no matter how far 151 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,360 away it is from Star Wars, you can't. 152 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,360 The five year old has not had enough time. 153 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,520 True. Understand the ramifications and 154 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:48,920 the conclusion of Star Wars, right. 155 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,240 So there's a little bit of age if we're limiting it to like 156 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:58,040 peer-to-peer adults or even like, I don't know ±10 years of 157 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,480 yourself, something like that, 'cause even, I don't know, even 158 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,800 some of our high school students that are like more like 20 years 159 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,200 younger than me, 30 years younger than you. 160 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:09,160 That's a long time. Like I wouldn't, I wouldn't 161 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:13,040 necessarily expect them to have seen scrubs, let's say like I. 162 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:17,360 I really enjoyed Scrubs there's. No way that a 16 year old 163 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,160 nowadays has watched all those scrubs. 164 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:23,520 No, nor should, but like, but like, I wouldn't, I wouldn't 165 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,760 just drop that on the the conclusion of that on a 166 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,560 teenager. I wouldn't expect them to have 167 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:29,800 taken interest in it and known it. 168 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,240 So I think you have to you have to be mindful of the age thing 169 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:33,480 too. But let's just keep it to like 170 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,600 peer adults. What's your time frame? 171 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:42,400 Yeah, So I don't know if I have a specific time frame, but 172 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,160 because of the way society and culture has evolved with its 173 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:49,440 entertainment, I have become very aware of, OK, have you seen 174 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,440 this show? OK, if the answer is no, now 175 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,640 I've got a couple paths to work with here I can say I can kind 176 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,440 of describe the show. And if they're like, oh, that 177 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,560 sounds cool, then I'll say OK, then I'm not going to tell you 178 00:09:00,560 --> 00:09:03,280 anything else. But if they're like, Oh yeah, I 179 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:04,760 don't know, I'm never going to watch that. 180 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,640 But they're still mildly interested in the conversation, 181 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,400 then I'll probably tell them the big review or whatever that 182 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,520 might be because yeah, I'm never going to watch that. 183 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,440 And I've done that with people because they're like, oh, did 184 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,600 you watch blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, no, but I don't 185 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:20,480 know. I probably wouldn't. 186 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:21,640 What's it about? How's it end? 187 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,800 And I'll just ask. I'm just like, just tell me, 188 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,600 Just tell me the thing. So for example, Stranger Things, 189 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:33,680 you brought it up. I, I watched like the first part 190 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:38,880 of Season 5 and then I'd heard enough about the second set that 191 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,720 they released that I was like, no, I'm not going to watch that. 192 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:46,400 And then when the third set came out, my son had kind of said, 193 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,240 and he was a big Stranger Things fan and he's like dad, that was, 194 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,560 that was pretty underwhelming. I didn't, I didn't really like 195 00:09:51,560 --> 00:09:54,120 the ending. And so him and I are enough 196 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,200 alike that I'm like, man, if you didn't really like it, I 197 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:57,320 probably wouldn't love it either. 198 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:01,080 So just tell me He's like, no. And I was like, he didn't want, 199 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,520 he didn't want to. He's like, no, I can't. 200 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,480 You got to watch it. I was like, but you just said it 201 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,200 wasn't very good. He's like, I know, but you 202 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,600 should still watch it. And I'm like, dude, I'm not 203 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,400 going to, I won't do it. And so I was like, just tell me. 204 00:10:12,680 --> 00:10:14,840 And so like it, it was. It was. 205 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,200 Difficult. He did. 206 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,960 OK, if he hadn't, would you have like gone on Reddit and I just. 207 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,320 Would have looked it up. Yeah, I'm not going to. 208 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:24,280 I don't know. I'm not going to watch. 209 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,120 It I kind of respect a little bit his responsibility. 210 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:27,920 If you care enough about it, you'll watch it. 211 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,120 Like, yeah. No, and even though it's not 212 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:31,400 very. Good if you want to know like 213 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:32,680 you'll watch it. Yeah, no. 214 00:10:32,680 --> 00:10:37,240 So I, I appreciated his like, his demeanor in that moment of 215 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,600 saying, oh, no, no, come on, man, don't, don't, don't tell me 216 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,320 to tell you. And I'm like, no, just tell me. 217 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:46,800 So I think, I think because he's grown up only in the era of 218 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,360 streaming and all that kind of stuff that he's hypersensitive 219 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,680 to it. Yeah, whereas, like, people my 220 00:10:51,680 --> 00:10:54,400 age in their 40s were just like, well, like you described. 221 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,480 We used to watch. There's a show on Wednesday 222 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,040 night, TuneIn on Wednesday. Figure it out. 223 00:10:59,560 --> 00:11:02,120 And I guess with the movies, I feel like it's a little 224 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:03,800 different. Obviously there's not like the 225 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:08,160 season timeline that I, that I yeah, threw out there as, as 226 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,800 kind of a this show was five years long. 227 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,000 So you have 5 years from the end of that to give out spoilers 228 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:18,640 like like for someone RA someone between 35 and 45 years old. 229 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:24,040 If I was talking to someone and actually there's close friends 230 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,160 of mine who go to this church that I do not care about Star 231 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,400 Wars, then it's I always forget that when I I bring up Star Wars 232 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,880 things and they don't, they just don't know my. 233 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,720 Wife is one of those she just. But so that's I would not feel 234 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:41,040 even if she's I would not feel bad about Star Wars spoilers for 235 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,880 someone my age. I, I, I just, I wouldn't. 236 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,400 If you have, if you've made it into your 4th decade of life and 237 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,760 haven't seen that, I don't. There's no feeling of ruining 238 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,560 that for you for sure. I guess sure. 239 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,120 Yeah, that's. Fair, Yeah, Something that like 240 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:59,960 there was there was something a few years back when Avengers end 241 00:11:59,960 --> 00:12:04,560 game came out, came out, there was there was a running back 242 00:12:04,560 --> 00:12:08,560 with Sean McCoy in the NFL. He went and he went to like the 243 00:12:08,560 --> 00:12:12,040 first showing on the East Coast of the thing and tweeted out 244 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:16,640 like tweeted spoiler to his millions of followers. 245 00:12:16,680 --> 00:12:22,280 Like he he tweeted plot lines. Yeah, like you can't do that on 246 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:26,360 opening that, no. I I would write that guy hate 247 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:27,680 mail. Yeah, if I was sure. 248 00:12:27,680 --> 00:12:29,480 Oh my. God, yeah, he got a lot of 249 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,280 ridicule for that. But like, that's, yeah, that's 250 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,600 crazy. Oh man, so by the way, Speaking 251 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,520 of all this, This is why movies that I really care about or 252 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,600 shows that I really care about. You see, first thing I. 253 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,680 I mean, so like for example, the you brought up Avengers, the the 254 00:12:44,680 --> 00:12:47,600 next Avengers big, big movie Doomsday. 255 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,840 It's in my calendar. I am going on the Thursday it 256 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:57,560 releases because I am so afraid of hearing something that I want 257 00:12:57,560 --> 00:12:58,880 to hear. Like I'm the kind of person, 258 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,560 like if I know I want to go see a movie, I don't even want to 259 00:13:01,560 --> 00:13:05,000 watch the previews because previews are getting longer and 260 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,080 longer. They're 2 1/2, three minutes 261 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,880 long now. And it's like you already showed 262 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:13,320 me all of the best parts, like, you know, so I I don't even 263 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,200 watch previews for movies I want to see. 264 00:13:15,680 --> 00:13:19,680 So what do you do? What do you do with? 265 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:27,200 So like Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter, there are epic 266 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:32,040 book series of these stories. And I guess, yeah. 267 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,280 So maybe it doesn't exactly apply because at the time there 268 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,760 are some people who had never read a page of either of those. 269 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,800 And we're just going to see the movies and that's how they 270 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,800 follow the story. But there's another hand of 271 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,000 people who have read all the books. 272 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,480 They know how it ends even though they haven't seen the 273 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,880 movies. What do you do with those 274 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:51,720 spoilers? But because you could like the 275 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:57,400 the rest of the story is available to you to go read, but 276 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,120 not so like someone going into Return of the King who hasn't 277 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,760 read the books. What what he as a person who has 278 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:08,880 read the books, am I under the same like spoilers scrutiny, 279 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,120 scrutiny there? Or is this hey, you could have 280 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:13,720 you could have finished the story. 281 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,040 I'm going to talk freely about this. 282 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,520 That's a great question. I don't know what the answer is. 283 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,600 Wow. For you bookworms out there, 284 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,280 like I feel, I feel like if you've done the work to read the 285 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,240 book. Well, you. 286 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:27,680 Get a, you get a pass. Yeah. 287 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,160 I mean, come on. Yeah, I'm with you on that. 288 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,280 I'm totally with you on that. What's also funny to me, just 289 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,120 cause. And actually maybe you can shed 290 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:40,160 some light on this. I feel like we give away 291 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,040 spoilers every week at church like. 292 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,160 OK. I don't, I can't. 293 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:55,800 I would like to meet someone who who actually like read the story 294 00:14:55,800 --> 00:15:00,640 of Jesus and didn't know how it ended right. 295 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:05,760 Like, like we, we give away the end, but like give someone the 296 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:12,480 gospel of John who doesn't doesn't know, like how does that 297 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:13,800 because we give away spoilers every week. 298 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,800 Like we give away how it ends every week, right? 299 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,440 And then we kind of backtrack and talk about why it was 300 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,080 necessary for it to end that way or why it's great that it ended 301 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:23,520 that way and all the other stuff. 302 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,320 So. Wow, I don't know. 303 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,240 I have never thought about it that way. 304 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,200 I'm just saying every week we're giving spoilers, we're giving 305 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,160 Jesus spoilers. Wow, but. 306 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,080 And I'm not saying, I'm not saying it's essential, you don't 307 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,440 have to read it chronologically like that, but I just, I don't 308 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,960 know, in the spoiler discussion, that was an interesting part in 309 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:44,000 my head. That's intriguing. 310 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,680 You know what, now that I think about it, this is kind of funny. 311 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:54,520 So I'm I'm very like I'm very well pointed in like how I 312 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:58,680 produce like a sermon. So like every week I'll tell you 313 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,440 like, we're going here here, and then this is how we're ending. 314 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:07,000 So like there's no real not, I don't know if there needs to be, 315 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,840 but there's no real mystery in terms of like even my. 316 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:12,480 Sermon is. Yeah. 317 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:16,600 So like if you were in church yesterday, you, you know, that 318 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,800 we were going to end with freedom in Christ. 319 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,360 And I don't know if that, I don't know if that was better. 320 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,240 I don't know if that's better or worse for people. 321 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,560 I I have no idea. I guess I haven't thought about 322 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,520 it from that, from that angle. We're open to full blown 323 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,800 critiques any anytime, anytime in person in the comments. 324 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,800 That's what we're here for. Well, and actually, you know, in 325 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,440 seminary, or at least our seminary for sure, there's at 326 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,600 least two different kinds of sermon delivery styles that you 327 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:46,640 would learn about. 1 is in our like deductive, right? 328 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:51,120 And the other one is what? Inductive and one is more so 329 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:52,480 like I'm going to tell you where we're going. 330 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,160 The other one is like, join me for the ride and let's see. 331 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,160 Where we're going to go to where we're going, Yeah. 332 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:02,160 So, yeah, OK, OK, that's interesting. 333 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,079 I. Don't know, I just. 334 00:17:04,079 --> 00:17:07,240 Yeah. I've never met anyone who like 335 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,520 sees it that way. Like you gave away the end, bro. 336 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,319 After you like like you told me, you came. 337 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:13,920 Back from the dead. Right. 338 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,119 I've never, like, experienced that sort of spoiler outrage. 339 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:23,400 Yeah, so that'd be weird. I know, but like that's the one 340 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,160 time it's acceptable apparently. Apparently 2000 years. 341 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,359 That's the barometer dude. If it's if it happened 2000 342 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:32,440 years ago, spoilers. Were free 2000 years. 343 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,640 That's the line friends. Now you know. 344 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,680 There it is. Glad we came to that conclusion. 345 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,520 Yikes. All right, well, if you caught 346 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,280 the message yesterday or if you missed the message yesterday, we 347 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:47,120 are in Romans 8 all the way up and through Easter. 348 00:17:47,120 --> 00:17:51,840 We're concluding the series on April 5th, Easter. 349 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:56,040 We have a couple things that Holy Week as well we're going to 350 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,080 have. So the Thursday before Easter, 351 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:03,520 we're going to have the Hillcrest Choir, which if you 352 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,400 don't know. So we're part of the Church of 353 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:10,520 Lutheran Brethren and that is a Lutheran Brethren High School 354 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,560 that is in Fergus Falls, MN, kind of where our synodical 355 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,200 headquarters are. And they do a spring choir tour 356 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:18,840 with their, with their high school choir and we're gonna 357 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,680 host them on Maundy Thursday of, of Holy Week. 358 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,280 I believe that's the first, the 2nd, April 2nd. 359 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,880 And then we do have a Good Friday service as well that 360 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,280 Friday evening. So Thursday, Friday and then 361 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:37,160 Easter Sunday morning we'll have a service at usual times of 9:00 362 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,880 and 10:45 on Easter Sunday, So only 9 Sundays away. 363 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:42,760 Oh. It's very close to now. 364 00:18:43,120 --> 00:18:48,520 So, so a little plug for the Hillcrest Choir, that is they do 365 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:52,400 a phenomenal job. They are extremely talented and 366 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,600 and very well rehearsed. And so if that's something that 367 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,920 you're even kind of interested in, invite your friends because 368 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,800 that's wide open to our community for anybody to come. 369 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,760 And we would love for you to pack out ERC to support the 370 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,720 kiddos and just hear some really amazing music. 371 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,880 Yeah, very, very well done. Not your average high school 372 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,560 choir. They they do very well. 373 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,000 And you're actually you're hearing that first here. 374 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,560 We haven't announced that anywhere else. 375 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,280 I think so hey, podcast listeners, you get a little 376 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,920 inside scoop on stuff. So yeah, spread the word. 377 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,720 We are in Romans 8 and you backtracked a little bit to 378 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:34,120 Romans 7 because it is it is important what the therefore is 379 00:19:34,120 --> 00:19:37,400 therefore none. Well, you said that the. 380 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,480 Therefore is there. Did I say that the Therefore is 381 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:40,880 there for? I thought you said that 382 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,120 yesterday that we we have to see what the therefore is there for 383 00:19:44,120 --> 00:19:45,200 probably I. Probably. 384 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:46,920 I don't know. I probably would have giggled 385 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,440 that I said it, because that struck me as funny. 386 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,800 OK, maybe you didn't. That's how I've always said that 387 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,400 when it wherever, whenever there's a there for, you have to 388 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,000 see what the there for is there for. 389 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,640 That was Debian confirmation class. 390 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,120 That was. That was from him. 391 00:20:01,120 --> 00:20:07,720 That stuck with me for 30 years. Anyway, because and it's just 392 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,440 with the therefore obviously none of the books of the Bible 393 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,800 start with therefore, like that's that's not the first word 394 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,760 in any of the books of the Bible. 395 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:22,720 There there therefore is declaratory based on what I just 396 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,800 said, right. So it's not, it's not a starter, 397 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,840 it's a it's a middle transition statement. 398 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,440 So we have to see why it's there. 399 00:20:31,120 --> 00:20:33,680 You backtrack to verse 21 and Chapter 7. 400 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,160 I find it to be a law that when I want to do right, evil lies 401 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,600 close at hand. For I delight in the law of God 402 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:44,240 and my inner being, but I see in my members another law waging 403 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:48,280 war against the law of my mind and making me captive to the law 404 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,440 of sin that dwells in my members. 405 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,520 Wretched man that I am, who will deliver me from this body of 406 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:54,920 death? Thanks be to God through Jesus 407 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,080 Christ our Lord. So then, I myself serve the law 408 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,160 of God with my mind, With my flesh, I serve the law of sin. 409 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,960 Wow. I, you know, I was just looking 410 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:12,480 and there's this, there's this cool little thing that it's on 411 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,280 the David Guzik Enduring word and anybody can access that. 412 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,160 It's just on the Internet. It's free to everybody. 413 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,960 And there's a couple of different people that he quotes 414 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,320 within these verses. And CS Lewis said this, anyone 415 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,160 who has tried to do good is aware of this struggle. 416 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,160 We never know how hard it is to stop sinning until we try quote. 417 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,800 No man knows how bad he is until he has to try to be good. 418 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:42,360 And the tension of that is so it's like palpable. 419 00:21:42,360 --> 00:21:46,560 You can feel it, you know, and, and so I mean, in our life group 420 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,440 last night, we end up having a longer conversation about this 421 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,200 very thing of, you know, I, I know the right thing to do. 422 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,800 I, I know it like I'm, it's, it's obvious to me. 423 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:03,440 And yet somehow, somehow there is this kind of quiet ish desire 424 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:07,000 or want to just not do that thing. 425 00:22:07,120 --> 00:22:10,040 And in fact, probably to do the exact opposite. 426 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,640 And what, what an incredible battle that is for all of us. 427 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,720 I think I hopefully it's a battle. 428 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,560 Hopefully it's not just, well, I'll just do the wrong thing 429 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,280 because that's what I feel like. Right. 430 00:22:21,360 --> 00:22:23,800 And I thought you keyed in on that really well yesterday that 431 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:29,280 I mean, the words are there that this is a war against the law of 432 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,600 my mind, my my bodily members warring against the law of my 433 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,560 mind. So we are in this conflict, this 434 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:40,040 battle that that word captive to the law of sin you described as 435 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,920 as kind of prisoner of war is really more of what it is 436 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,200 because we have this, we have this conflict. 437 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:53,520 So yeah, there's it. It feels a little unnatural to 438 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,640 to say that. And, and Paul writes that in 439 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,000 other places too, Like why do I continue to do what I do not 440 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,160 want to do? I know I know what's right and I 441 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,680 know what's wrong and I continue to do the wrong thing. 442 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:09,120 You keyed in on the the the point there of it should feel 443 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,760 like a war, like it there should be conviction of even when 444 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,400 you're drawn into sin. The scariest place to be would 445 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:22,040 where would be where there's no longer conviction in that action 446 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:26,880 where we're sin feels normal or or unremorseful, right? 447 00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:32,400 Normalizing sin is so dangerous. And I think we, I think it's 448 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:38,000 easy to do that, not because we don't love God, but because if 449 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:43,080 it is normalized in the entire culture around me, then I have 450 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,280 to be the big weirdo who's like, no, that's not what I'm doing. 451 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:51,840 So, you know, for example, there could be a movie or TV show, you 452 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,000 know, you brought up Game of Thrones. 453 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,400 So it could be a movie or TV show that seemingly the world is 454 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,120 kind of going after. And I'll just speak personally, 455 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,600 my wife and I, we watched, I don't even think we made it 456 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,480 through the first episode. And we're like, Nah, this isn't 457 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,520 for us. And then for the next several 458 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,680 years, I had to listen to people go, Oh my gosh, that was all, 459 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,240 dude, did you see that? And I, I did have this weird 460 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,080 nagging feeling of being left out. 461 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,520 But at the same time, my wife and I had together decided this 462 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,040 is not it for us. And so I had to stick to my guns 463 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,720 on that also while feeling left out, you know? 464 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,400 And so I think like the normalization of sin within our 465 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:36,360 society can make Christians feel left out when we don't normalize 466 00:24:36,360 --> 00:24:38,080 what the rest of the culture is doing. 467 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,560 And that is another war, you know, of sorts that we have to 468 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:47,120 deal with. And not to make light of it the, 469 00:24:47,120 --> 00:24:50,120 the, the FOMO fear of missing out that you're talking about 470 00:24:50,120 --> 00:24:52,760 there. But I mean, again, if we turn to 471 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,720 scripture, Lord did not give us a spirit of fear, but a bit of 472 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:03,000 life and a freedom, right? So like FOMO should not be 473 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,640 governing your choices right there. 474 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:10,640 There's probably very little redeeming qualities and 475 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,440 something that you're feeling a fear of missing out for. 476 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,200 That's not the reason you should engage in that. 477 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,520 There might be redeemable reasons for whatever there there 478 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,920 might be. Hey, hey, you do you have a fear 479 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,520 of missing out on life group? Sure, you should like you should 480 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,760 you should act on that and you should jump into community. 481 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,880 That's that's a that's a holy fear. 482 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:36,600 But yeah, with those pair that with the do not let your mind 483 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,480 conform any longer to the pattern of this world. 484 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,320 Are are you fearing missing out the patterns of this world? 485 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,040 You should probably should probably let that be. 486 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,040 You should probably be OK with missing out on that. 487 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,800 So well and interesting that you bring up the word fear. 488 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,240 We don't make good decisions when we're fearful. 489 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,080 And actually, it's interesting in the financial peace class 490 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,400 that we're running right now, on Sunday afternoons, they were 491 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,880 talking about marketing and how marketers get you to buy things 492 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,880 that you don't really need. And a major play in that is 493 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,440 fear. Fear of missing out or fear of 494 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,400 not being prepared for something or whatever. 495 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:20,640 And so fear does not allow us to make great decisions in general. 496 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,160 So you're absolutely correct about that, Yeah. 497 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:31,560 So ditch the FOMO not formed by feelings continuing on Romans 8 498 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,960 verse one because of because of this, because of this war going 499 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:40,040 on, who will deliver me Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ 500 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,160 our Lord. So then I'm serving the law of 501 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,440 God with my mind, with my flesh. I serve the law of sin. 502 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,960 But because we have thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our 503 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,040 Lord, Romans 81. There is therefore now no 504 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:55,880 condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus for the law of 505 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,600 the Spirit of life that set you free in Christ Jesus from the 506 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,600 law of sin and death. For God is done with the law, 507 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:06,120 weakened by the flesh, could not do freedom. 508 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,640 There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are 509 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,360 in Christ Jesus. So what does that say? 510 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:16,960 Removing the fear, removing the condemnation for who, how, why? 511 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,520 For those who are in Christ Jesus. 512 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,120 So being in Christ is something that I want if I don't want to 513 00:27:23,120 --> 00:27:24,920 live in fear or condemnation, right? 514 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,680 Yep. And so then we, I did not have, 515 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,080 I didn't know. I probably should have, but I 516 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,320 didn't take the time yesterday to accurately describe. 517 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,720 OK, so if we're going to be using this phrase because Paul 518 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:43,080 uses it a lot in Christ, what does that actually mean to be in 519 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,640 Christ? What does that look like? 520 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:49,920 So there's some, of course, very surface level practical ways to 521 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,120 do that. You know, the Bible would tell 522 00:27:52,120 --> 00:27:55,200 us that everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be 523 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,080 saved. OK, So as I call in the name of 524 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,720 Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior, then the Bible would 525 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,040 therefore tell me I am in Christ because I'm putting my faith in 526 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,800 Him. I'm putting my trust in my hope, 527 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,080 and I'm putting my eternity in His hands. 528 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,560 That makes me in Christ. However, there's other ways that 529 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,800 I'm in Christ too. In my baptism, I am in Christ 530 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,320 because in my baptism God washes me clean. 531 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,880 He imbues me with the Holy Spirit in communion. 532 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,960 I am in Christ, in Christ is in me through the body and blood of 533 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,200 Jesus. And so there's these practical 534 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,120 ways that we become, you know, in Christ. 535 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,600 And that's just a few. And so this is this is from the 536 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,640 cause of commentary too. And during word, this in Christ 537 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,840 phrase imports that there is a mystical and spiritual union 538 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,760 betwixt Christ and believers. Wow, didn't think I was going to 539 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,320 wake up and say betwixt today, but there it is. 540 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,800 That's a good one. This is sometimes expressed by 541 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,440 Christ being in them and hereby they're being in Christ. 542 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,240 Christ is in believers by his spirit and his believers are in 543 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,600 Christ by faith, right? So those are the, that's the 544 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,600 kind of meat and potatoes of, of in Christ language, right? 545 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,840 You're you're in Christ. Christ is in us by his Spirit. 546 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,840 We talked about that a few weeks ago that the temple of of the 547 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,040 Holy Spirit, right. It's the the indwelling, the the 548 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,840 seal of salvation that the Holy Spirit is for the believer and 549 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,920 believers are in Christ by faith. 550 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,000 This then is there is therefore therefore now no condemnation 551 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,400 and that changes our state. It's not we're less guilty. 552 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,960 It's we are not guilty. Oh wow, that's a fantastic way 553 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,160 to put that. It's not less guilty. 554 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:40,840 It's not at all. Wow. 555 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,800 My goodness, Matt Schweitzer, that was that's really good. 556 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:51,880 I really like that a lot. No, I I just think, you know, 557 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,480 I'm not anybody who knows me. I'm not. 558 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,120 I think it's good to memorize scripture to keep that, you 559 00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,760 know, squarely in your mind and your heart. 560 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,320 However, I myself am not a huge like I'm not in my office 561 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,880 looking at flash cards trying to memorize stuff so I can sound 562 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,520 really smart and whatever when people bring stuff up. 563 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:15,520 But if there was ever a verse to memorize to to make sure that we 564 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,400 are grounded in the grace of Jesus Christ, Romans 81 might be 565 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,760 the thing. Because for sure with this 566 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,600 struggle between our sin nature of the flesh and and what the 567 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:32,400 Spirit wants to do in and through us when we fail, man, 568 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,320 the accuser is right on the door. 569 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,920 Like, see, I told you you're, you're not what you say you are 570 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,080 and he's just pushing and poking all of the time. 571 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,560 And then I think you said it recently, maybe maybe during the 572 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,320 worship set, man, we have to preach to ourselves. 573 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,400 We do we have to preach the gospel to ourselves. 574 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,920 And if I need a gospel moment to preach to myself, oftentimes 575 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,960 when there is failure and there is sin in my life, well, guess 576 00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:02,800 what? It should be Romans 81 because I 577 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:07,920 am not condemned, I am set free. I am I, I am declared not 578 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,720 guilty, the opposite of condemnation, right? 579 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,800 I'm declared not guilty in Christ. 580 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:17,480 And so to hold on to that with the tightest grip I possibly 581 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:18,920 can. So important. 582 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,840 Yeah, and that's so I read from Psalm 42 yesterday, which David 583 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:27,160 is also having this sort of wrestling sequence between, 584 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:31,600 between sin and and depression, anxiety, guilt from that and and 585 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:36,240 hope in, in that same preaching way I think that Paul is doing 586 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,600 here. He's he's wrestling in this war 587 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,320 between his mind and his flesh and and he's preaching to 588 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,280 himself. But I'm in Christ and there is 589 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,520 no condom. I'm, I'm in right standing 590 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,880 before God because of Christ. It's the same thing that David's 591 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,440 saying in Psalm 42. Why are you downcast on my soul? 592 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,240 Put your hope in God. He is he is my salvation and my 593 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:56,920 God. Like that's that's the same 594 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,640 thing in Christ. That's that's where I've been 595 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,920 sheltered and found because there's a flip side of this too. 596 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,080 This is this is another thought from from Charles Spurgeon. 597 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:09,680 If you are not in Jesus Christ, there is condemnation for you. 598 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,560 If if, therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who 599 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,520 are in Christ, that means there is condemnation for those who 600 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,560 are not in Christ. He says it's no pleasant task 601 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:20,760 for it to have to speak of this matter. 602 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,560 But who are we that we should ask for pleasant task? 603 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,920 What God has witnessed in Scripture is the sum and 604 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,920 substance of what the Lord's servants are to testify to the 605 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,600 people. If you are not in Christ Jesus 606 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,880 and walking after the flesh, you have not escaped from 607 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,560 condemnation. Yeah, and well, and let's go to 608 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,160 John chapter 3. For God so loved the world that 609 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,240 he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should 610 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,680 not perish, but have eternal life. 611 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,280 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the 612 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,520 world, but in order that the world might be saved through 613 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,280 him. Verse 18 Whoever believes is not 614 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,280 condemned. And then here's the big punch. 615 00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,360 But whoever does not believe is condemned already. 616 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,440 Ouch. Presently standing Condemned. 617 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,400 Yes, right. And and I mean, how much more 618 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:13,800 than do we need Romans 81 as we come into a fruition and 619 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:18,760 understanding of our sin nature and how badly we failed God. 620 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:25,760 I, I, I can't help but just totally feel like I understand 621 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,920 another human being who I've never met when Paul, you know, 622 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,520 says wretched man that I am in verse 24, wretched. 623 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:39,040 And The thing is like the closer I draw to Christ, the more I can 624 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,120 feel that, but it doesn't destroy me. 625 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,520 It doesn't destroy me. It just makes me cling to Jesus 626 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,360 all the more and so. And that's, and that's the thing 627 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,240 for Christians that we need to constantly get. 628 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,280 We need to be aware of our sin. We need to repent of it. 629 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,800 We need to know it exists. We need to all those things. 630 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,080 And Paul rightly declares himself wretched. 631 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,360 He and in that word can be also be translated. 632 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,800 I am a miserable being. Really. 633 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,159 Look at how miserable I am. Right. 634 00:34:13,159 --> 00:34:17,840 So we can simultaneously declare that, while we also declare no 635 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,480 condemnation, while we also declare freedom, while we also 636 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,840 declare life. But we don't do that through Hey 637 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,840 man, I'm doing better than I was last week. 638 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,440 No, we do that through. I'm clinging on to Jesus for my 639 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,560 every moment, for my every need, because He's the one who 640 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,120 declares me through His work, righteous He is. 641 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,960 He has given that to me, despite the fact that I am wretched, 642 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,360 which shows His great and His unending and His steadfast love. 643 00:34:46,679 --> 00:34:48,280 Amen. There it is. 644 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,400 So that brings us back though too. 645 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:55,600 We want to be, we want to be in Christ and that's the OK Spirit 646 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,120 dwells in him. You, you've professed faith in 647 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,440 there and therefore you are in Christ. 648 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:01,760 So the Spirit dwells in the believer. 649 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,640 But how do we, how do we arrive on that? 650 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,480 I think it's back to the, the John 3 passage that you were 651 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,040 just talking about, verse 15 and John 3. 652 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,720 Whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal 653 00:35:11,720 --> 00:35:15,480 life right there. So faith comes about by by 654 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,560 profession of belief. It's by grace through faith, 655 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,960 right? So declaring I'm a Sinner in 656 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,440 need of God's grace, Jesus Christ poured his life out on 657 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,520 the crossroads from the dead. That declaring that belief, 658 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,000 there's also the the sacrament of baptism, right? 659 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,320 There's we, we do baptize infants. 660 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:40,200 We'll baptize any any believer, but infant baptism, we do 661 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:44,200 believe there's a there's an outpouring of grace like it's 662 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:50,520 it's a gift of faith. Is it, is it the same faith that 663 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:55,360 is professed by the person? Well, in light of salvation? 664 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,480 Arguably, yes, right? Of course it doesn't get that. 665 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,400 We're not saying that baby has declared their faith, but also 666 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,640 that's possibly focusing on the wrong thing in baptism. 667 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,720 Who's who's doing the work? Do we, do we get the gift of 668 00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:10,280 faith because of our work of declaring it? 669 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,120 Or is it actually a gift? And that's the picture we see in 670 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,320 baptizing an infant, right? It's God doing the work. 671 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,680 It's God imparting faith through grace, right? 672 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,520 By grace through faith. Yeah, so. 673 00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:25,400 So. That's that's the the how the, 674 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:30,080 the how you are found in Christ. If you're not baptized and and 675 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,720 you're professing these things, yeah, we let's get you baptized. 676 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,240 Let's do it. If if you are parents of 677 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:43,120 children that you you want to dedicate, enter into this faith 678 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,280 that you possess. Yeah, baptize them now at the 679 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,200 the phrase in Matthew 28, the Great Commission is baptize and 680 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,440 teach. So yes, we can impart this gift 681 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,720 of faith by grace poured out in baptism. 682 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,720 And then they're in your household. 683 00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:01,240 They're brought up in these things you talked about in the 684 00:37:01,240 --> 00:37:03,400 past couple weeks, this generational inheritance of, of 685 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,040 faith, right. Like that's that's what family 686 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,640 under the lordship of of Christ is. 687 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:14,200 That's how it's designed. We're not, we're not baptizing 688 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,800 them as babies and hoping they figure it out on their own. 689 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,840 No, we should be, we should be enriching and imparting and 690 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,960 teaching these, these things, these these greater tenets of 691 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,480 faith. We're not just eating baby food, 692 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,040 right? We should be building them up, 693 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,400 teaching them up, bring it, bringing them into adulthood of, 694 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,840 of faith and a deeper understanding of things, right? 695 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:33,840 So. Very good. 696 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,120 Yeah. And so, I mean, The thing is, 697 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:43,360 like with infant baptism, we're also, we're, we are, we are 698 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,800 saying who's doing the work, right? 699 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:51,280 I mean, come on, like, I can declare it all day, but man, 700 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:55,320 it's still God who's doing the work in me to be able to declare 701 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,520 it. And so I mean, plus add, add the 702 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,240 fact that David makes it painfully clear that, I mean, 703 00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:05,520 from the moment of his conception, he was sinful. 704 00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:10,960 Even prior to breathing air, he was a sinful being because that 705 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,560 has been passed down to us through the generations, through 706 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,000 Adam and Eve. And so it is totally appropriate 707 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:22,880 to, through baptism, wash those sins away and give the Holy 708 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:28,160 Spirit so that in their more mature years, that child, 709 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,720 through teaching and through growing up in a church 710 00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:36,800 community, can come to a mature faith that then can, by the Holy 711 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:41,760 Spirit declare that faith. But it is all done on God's 712 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,760 work, God's back, God's effort, never ours. 713 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:49,160 Yeah, washing and regeneration still necessary, needed. 714 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,000 That's that's the point that even that infant that that baby 715 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:56,040 is bad. So the washing and regeneration 716 00:38:56,040 --> 00:39:00,520 in baptism is still absolutely applicable to to that little 717 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:05,720 life. So yeah, that's nuts and bolts 718 00:39:05,720 --> 00:39:10,680 of in Christ. I think verse 2 in Romans 8, we 719 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,160 kind of worked through that. For the law of the spirit of 720 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,120 life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and 721 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,240 death. For God has done what the law 722 00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:21,080 weakened by the flesh could not do by sending his own Son in the 723 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,320 likeness of sinful flesh. And for sin. 724 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:28,320 He condemned sin in the flesh. I want to OK, so I want to pick 725 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,880 your brain on this a little bit. This was part of the the small 726 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:36,120 group questions condemned sin in the flesh. 727 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,960 What what are we getting at here? 728 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,800 Because I think I think there's a couple different meanings that 729 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,560 you can like Garner from this phrase. 730 00:39:46,240 --> 00:39:49,720 Well, the I think the most obvious one on the surface is 731 00:39:49,720 --> 00:39:52,320 that and we talked about it yesterday during the Sunday 732 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:58,880 services, is that God did, Jesus did endure that condemnation in 733 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:03,960 his very flesh. And yes, Jesus is God and Jesus 734 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,040 is man. He is fully both. 735 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:11,000 And I think, you know, I've heard it elsewhere and I think 736 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:15,040 this is just ridiculous that somehow Jesus. 737 00:40:15,720 --> 00:40:20,640 It's as if, like his, you know, his feelings were turned off and 738 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:25,800 so that way he wasn't actually feeling the pain of that 739 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,440 condemnation in his flesh. Baloney. 740 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:29,880 I don't believe that for a second. 741 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,200 No way. He couldn't be fully man if he 742 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:38,160 just turned off his those, you know, feeling receptacles and 743 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,160 like, yeah, he can't just turn off his nerve ending to be like, 744 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,920 well, just another day. No, like he is fully man. 745 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:51,680 And so again, I think the most obvious on the surface 1 is Yep, 746 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:56,280 he absolutely felt every single one of those lashes, every 747 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,840 punch, every kick, every, every time somebody he felt all that 748 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,120 stuff. And that is God literally 749 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,600 condemning sin in the. In being in the flesh, right? 750 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:10,160 The full, the fully man part of Jesus that was, that was fully 751 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:14,040 perfect and lived it up, but also endured that fleshly death, 752 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,400 right? That that's how he condemned sin 753 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,160 in in the flesh, being in the flesh for us, in our place, 754 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,160 right? Yep, and I mean, I don't think 755 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,200 it's, I don't think it's a coincidence that Paul uses the 756 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:29,920 word likeness when talking about Jesus as a man because we are 757 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,720 made in God's image and likeness. 758 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:39,480 Therefore 100% man, 100% God. God giving up his right and his 759 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,960 ability to say no, I've had enough. 760 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,680 No, he, he's like, I'm going to take this for you because you 761 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,040 need me to. So that's at least one way to 762 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,880 look at this. Did you have another thought 763 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,400 coming out of your life group? No, that was, I mean, that was 764 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,800 where we ended on. I just don't want to hear the 765 00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:03,400 condemnation of sinning in the flesh right and and don't hear 766 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,640 don't hear what I'm saying there is condemnation for sinning in 767 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,840 the flesh for those who are not in Christ Jesus right that there 768 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:16,320 is losing that war to the law of sin with the flesh that he's 769 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:20,200 talking about in Chapter 7. Like that's yes, that that there 770 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:27,000 is condemnation for sin of the flesh in that but in Christ 771 00:42:27,240 --> 00:42:31,760 that's that's where the victory is right because he came in the 772 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,520 flesh to condemn sin in his in his flesh. 773 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,760 By that verse 4, the righteous requirement of the law might be 774 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,040 fulfilled in US who are not walk not according to the flesh, but 775 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,720 according to the Spirit. That's the spirit in dwell part 776 00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:46,720 right. Those are who have believed in 777 00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:51,640 Christ, then have the spirit in them and by the Spirit Christ 778 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,480 has fulfilled the righteous requirement. 779 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,160 We're not again, we're, we're standing before God, not less 780 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,400 guilty, but not guilty at, at all, right? 781 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,920 So that's fulfilling the requirement of law. 782 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,840 We're standing spotless, perfect before God, because we're in 783 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:10,000 Christ. Well, and you know, to to walk 784 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:14,440 according to the spirit, you might ask, what would that even 785 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,200 look like? To which you could pretty 786 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:18,800 quickly. And there's, there's a lot of 787 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,280 different ways to describe this, but I think maybe the quickest 788 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,560 way to describe this is the person walking according to the 789 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:25,840 Spirit. You know what they're going to 790 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,840 do, they're going to produce fruit as the Bible would talk 791 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,640 about it. And so, you know, what are the 792 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,960 fruits of the Spirit? Joy, peace, patience, kindness, 793 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,440 etcetera, etcetera. And so, you know, for the person 794 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,640 who is walking with Christ, who's in Christ, we've talked 795 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,120 about this before. But if I declare Christ as my 796 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,440 Lord and King, and then I live the same way I've been living 797 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:55,040 like perfectly exactly, you know, as before I declared 798 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:59,320 Christ as my king. Am I walking in the spirit or am 799 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:05,680 I just using words? We do need to allow God to shape 800 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,520 what we do, how we act, how we speak to people. 801 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,960 And we're, you know, we say it all the time. 802 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,640 We're not going to be perfect at that, of course, because we are 803 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:18,360 still sinners. However, there ought to be a 804 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,720 change. There should be some kind of 805 00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:24,120 change that people go that's different. 806 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,880 I would have thought that they would have reacted differently 807 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,240 to that moment based on what I've known about them 808 00:44:29,240 --> 00:44:31,840 previously. But no, like if I'm walking in 809 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,000 the spirit, there's going to be a change in my behavior. 810 00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:38,600 Yeah, absolutely. And that kind of rings me if, if 811 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,800 you have more thoughts we can bring those into. 812 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,360 But I wanted to get to this closing thought of the song we 813 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:45,800 did yesterday. We closed the service a little 814 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,880 differently, didn't bring the whole band back up and didn't 815 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,520 really do a it was kind of a hard song to follow along. 816 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,320 It was more of a or at least sing along with it. 817 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:59,360 It was more of a descriptive sort of prayerful reflection 818 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:00,440 song. It's called Barabbas. 819 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,240 It's by Josiah Queen. But I got AI got a question 820 00:45:04,240 --> 00:45:07,600 about that, like why? And it's just a matter of 821 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,280 perspective. The the perspective of the song 822 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:15,400 is not that we are friends of Barabbas, It's that we are 823 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,200 Barabbas. Like the the perspective of the 824 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,400 song is sung from Barabbas watching Jesus take his put 825 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,720 quite literally take his place on on the cross. 826 00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:28,680 That would have been for him. And that's what Jesus has done 827 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,840 for each and every one of us who are in Christ, right? 828 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:37,520 We are Barabbas. So that song is just kind of it. 829 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,440 It should be to some degree each and every one of our personal 830 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,920 testimonies. Why did he he didn't deserve to 831 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,760 serve my penalty. That's that's our perspective of 832 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,000 of Jesus. I'll never understand the 833 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:53,840 repercussions of my every sin. Is it hatred or is it simply 834 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,800 pouring out from bitterness? That's some of the questions 835 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,720 that that Paul's asking here. Why do why do I battle this that 836 00:45:59,720 --> 00:46:01,960 why do I still do these fleshly things? 837 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,520 That is outright rebellion hatred. 838 00:46:03,720 --> 00:46:05,520 Is it is it bitterness for something? 839 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,160 Is it retribution for for things. 840 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,440 So anyway, that was just that was kind of the heart by that we 841 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,960 are Barabbas. That is our perspective towards 842 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,720 Christ. But those who are found in 843 00:46:16,720 --> 00:46:20,400 Christ then call him friend right there. 844 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,760 There's no condemnation for those who who have believed who 845 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,640 are calling him friends. So that's kind of the closing 846 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:30,680 line you took upon my cross. I'll never I'll never. 847 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:36,080 Oh man, I can't run away. That's what it is. 848 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:37,800 I can't run away from what I accuser say. 849 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,160 We said we still feel that right. 850 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,120 We still feel that tension. We feel that condemnation, but 851 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,360 because we're calling to Christ where we're in Christ, we're 852 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,760 believing in Christ. I am Barabbas, your friend. 853 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,680 That's where we can rest in, in not having condemnation. 854 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:56,240 I actually, it rang so true with me yesterday and even today as 855 00:46:56,240 --> 00:46:59,680 you kind of repeated it. I can't run from what my accuser 856 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:06,320 say, man, you know what? I I could try and I have tried. 857 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:10,760 And when I try and maybe I've even feel like I succeed in 858 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,920 running away, all I've done is I've justified myself. 859 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,000 Instead of allowing Christ to justify me through what he's 860 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,600 done, I've just justified myself. 861 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,840 But here's the beautiful part about this. 862 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,240 I don't have to run anymore. I am free. 863 00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:26,200 I can get off the treadmill of self. 864 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:30,960 You know of that denial and I can stop running away from the 865 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,520 truth about me and I can look at it in the face and say, Yep, 866 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,720 that was me. But in Christ I am a new 867 00:47:37,720 --> 00:47:42,600 creation. And all the more come at me with 868 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,840 your accusations. I'll probably agree with you. 869 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,800 But I also have Romans 81. There's there. 870 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,600 There's now therefore no condemnation for me in Christ 871 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,840 Jesus. So I don't have to run anymore. 872 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,800 And that is real freedom. Yeah, that's it. 873 00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,720 So if you haven't listened to Pastor Chris sermon from 874 00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:03,040 yesterday again, I thought you just hit it out of the park, 875 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:03,960 man. Very well said. 876 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:08,320 Thanks for kicking us off in this series in Romans. 877 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,680 Thanks for tuning in, listening to some more thoughts, things 878 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,200 that we, yeah, just couldn't cram into the message yesterday 879 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,360 or some just. Yeah, points we wanted to 880 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,320 highlight from yesterday, too. Thanks for tuning in. 881 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,560 Share the leftovers with with someone if you'd like to Feel 882 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:27,600 free to comment on your thoughts of spoilers and why it's OK that 883 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,920 we do that at church, but also what the yeah, what the timeline 884 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,000 for things is, what's what's acceptable. 885 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,040 We'll be back with you next week. 886 00:48:35,240 --> 00:48:36,080 Have a blessed week, Church.