1 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:16,120 Happy Monday, we are back in with some ERC leftovers. 2 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,560 I'm Pastor Matt. Hey, Pastor Chris is here as 3 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,560 well. It's going to be a good. 4 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,480 Week it really is you know what actually, I I can't help it. 5 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,800 I don't think I've brought this up yet on any of the shows, but 6 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,960 as I hear like the intro music, I always do like a little chair 7 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,200 dance. I always do a little chair dance 8 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,800 and so hopefully if you're listening to this like in your 9 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,960 car, wherever you may listen to this, like I hopefully like the 10 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,120 little intro music, like it makes you wiggle a little bit 11 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,120 because it always does me. Going to need to move this to a 12 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:52,200 video podcast pretty soon for the for those little behind the 13 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,840 scenes Easter eggs. Yeah, yeah, no, yeah. 14 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,840 Weird weekend. It felt strange for summer, 15 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:07,000 obviously a lot of storms in the area, a lot of flooding and aid 16 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,840 and assistance going on. I mean, Dubuque all the way down 17 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,200 to Quad Cities, of course, things going on in in Texas. 18 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,600 So thoughts and prayers with those communities and people as 19 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:22,360 well. So and not to like equate that 20 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,440 with the same thing at all, but largely I've I've talked about 21 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:30,520 it before pool. Those are what pool is a common 22 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:35,400 activity for my family. We tried to, we tried to stick 23 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,040 it out Thursday evening and there were definitely storms 24 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:39,520 there. We were there for about 7 25 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,000 minutes I think before they had to clear the pool and lightning 26 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,160 habit. And I found out, fun fact, the 27 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,960 the shades at the pool like the umbrella and the Big Blue canopy 28 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,000 and the purple canopy, they are sun shades only. 29 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:58,360 Like there's no water in a rain. There's a like it's just cloth, 30 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,160 but it's not, it's not water repellent. 31 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,240 You can stand under that in a rainstorm and still get wet. 32 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,400 And just get soaked, yes. Interesting. 33 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,240 So I wouldn't have thought that I wouldn't. 34 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,440 Have thought that either. Found that out the hard way on 35 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,600 Thursday as I was, because for a while it was just raining and 36 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,920 not lightning so my kid and my kids were oblivious. 37 00:02:19,920 --> 00:02:21,960 They're still playing in the pool but Emily and I are just 38 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,040 like, we need to go stand somewhere dry. 39 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,320 Found out there's nowhere dry to be found, it's just less wet. 40 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,440 You could. You could, I mean, just kind of 41 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,640 like hide out in the doorway of the locker rooms, I suspect. 42 00:02:34,640 --> 00:02:36,720 That's the only that's the only truly safe place. 43 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:37,600 Yeah. Yeah. 44 00:02:37,920 --> 00:02:42,720 So anyway, that was so so yeah, with all, it was a weird summer 45 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,160 week because I just, I feel like we usually go to the pool all 46 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,280 the time and we didn't because it was raining. 47 00:02:47,640 --> 00:02:50,720 You know, the other side of this coin though, with the amount of 48 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,960 rain that we've been getting this summer, particularly in the 49 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,440 Midwest, like it's an amount of rain that like is actually 50 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,600 making a lot of people in the agriculture community pretty 51 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,440 happy. Like life is good, you know, 52 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,840 like because I remember last year, you know, we barely, I 53 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,920 don't know if it rained even once in the month of July. 54 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,720 And I kind of liked that because I never mowed the lawn. 55 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,280 That was great. I didn't mow the lawn for like 4 56 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:18,680 or five weeks. It was awesome. 57 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,440 But then again, it's like, wait a minute, all these people who 58 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,280 produce all of the food and everything else, like they're 59 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,400 not happy. Therefore, we ultimately will 60 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,560 also not be happy. Yeah, so. 61 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,280 Kind of need it. Definitely need it this week 62 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:37,400 after the message yesterday, I preached on Acts 20 and Paul's 63 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:41,120 kind of farewell sermon to the elders in Ephesus. 64 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,200 One of his. I don't know that you feel like 65 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,400 a favorite church in Paul, but it was. 66 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,920 He loved the church in. Ephesus a big investment. 67 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,320 There, yeah, that was that was a place that was near and dear to 68 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:57,040 his heart. So this sort of sweet goodbye 69 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,080 and we didn't even get towards the end of the chapter, there is 70 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:04,280 some recount from Luke of the the teary eyed nature of of 71 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,160 their embraces and their and their goodbyes there after his 72 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:12,040 sermon. So touching moments, a tender 73 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:17,120 moment here in in Acts chapter 20 as the end is seemingly near 74 00:04:17,959 --> 00:04:20,880 for Paul. And that just kind of got us 75 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:25,840 thinking about talking about how you how you say goodbye. 76 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,160 Like how do you exit? How do you exit a situation? 77 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,360 It was funny for me even yesterday at church I it's 78 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,520 always a funny thing to watch for me in the atrium afterwards, 79 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,640 how the couples never really seem to sync up. 80 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,680 Like a lot of the times there's a husband waiting while the wife 81 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,200 is still engaged in conversation, but a lot of the 82 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,520 time while he's waiting, he'll get caught up in a conversation 83 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,960 or, or otherwise, yeah, caught up in something else. 84 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,640 So then the wife is ready to go, but the husband and then, and 85 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:56,960 then it just kind of goes back and forth. 86 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,520 I was outside talking yesterday with, with a husband on the 87 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,600 sidewalk. And at some point of the 88 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,160 conversation, oh, here, here comes my wife. 89 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:09,080 And she did, she actually walked through the doors to let him 90 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,520 know I have one more conversation I need to have. 91 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,280 I'll be right back Like she can. It was like the false goodbye he 92 00:05:15,280 --> 00:05:17,760 thought she was ready to go to. Like I got to talk to one more 93 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,800 person. And so I'm glad. 94 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,400 I'm glad we have that space. But for me, the church goodbye 95 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,280 is one that's like it goes on forever. 96 00:05:27,280 --> 00:05:30,440 I think that's why we see people like duck out so fast because 97 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:34,400 they're like, I can't, I can't get caught by anybody. 98 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,000 So therefore, as long as soon as that last, no. 99 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,440 I'm. Here for more than 30 seconds. 100 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:39,920 I'm going to be here for 30 minutes. 101 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,280 That's exactly it. That's exactly it. 102 00:05:42,280 --> 00:05:45,520 So yeah, the church can be tricky, especially with the 103 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,280 atrium there, and it just seems to be a natural place to gather. 104 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,520 But, you know, it can also be tricky if you're like, you know, 105 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,200 you had dinner at somebody's house and the conversation is 106 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:59,200 rolling, but you or your spouse are like, man, I'm ready to go. 107 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,840 But you don't want to say that necessarily. 108 00:06:01,840 --> 00:06:03,080 I mean, some people are just open. 109 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,080 They're like, yeah, I'm ready to go out of nowhere. 110 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,560 And you're like, oh, OK, OK, sure. 111 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:12,640 My wife and I, we've developed a code and I don't know where this 112 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,440 code came from, but I think it's fairly subtle. 113 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,800 So if her and I are sitting next to each other, all we have to do 114 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:25,560 is you just put your hands again subtly on their like leg and you 115 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,600 just give a couple taps. It's like, hey, we're, we're 116 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,800 tapping out of this night. Like, and, and we did work it 117 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,160 out like in real time. We're like as soon as there's 118 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,800 the pat rub or the tap, you got 5 minutes and we are out. 119 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,480 That's it. You got 5 minutes and that's 120 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,400 your notification, you know, we're one or the other person. 121 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,680 You got 5 minutes. close this thing up. 122 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,360 It's pretty good. It's not bad. 123 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:51,120 It's not bad. But sometimes, like I've, I've 124 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:56,600 criticized her because, well, you know, I, gosh, I'm sorry, I 125 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,880 tend to be a person who just says what's going through my 126 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:02,880 brain and that's not always appropriate. 127 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,320 And so there have been a couple times where I totally sold her 128 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,720 out and she like gives me the subtle pat rub and I'm like, oh, 129 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,920 I got the pat rub. And people who don't know what 130 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,360 that means, people who don't know what that means, they're 131 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,040 like, they just look at you and I'm like, oh, Oh, no, it, it 132 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:22,000 just means that, you know, And then therefore I just told the 133 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,680 whole room, my wife wants to leave, you know, and that's, 134 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,520 that's not cool. Like I, I realize that's not 135 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,960 cool, but sometimes the filter just isn't filtering. 136 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,040 And so I've, I've, I feel bad. I've thrown her under the bus 137 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,800 before. Do you know anyone or maybe 138 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,800 maybe there's any of you out there that have like I've heard 139 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,880 of couples having like a code word for that they work subtly 140 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,960 in the conversation that if if one of the others says it like 141 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,280 that's their indication of I'm ready to go. 142 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,520 Like I'm ready, I'm ready to ready to leave. 143 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,840 And so I don't know if if any of you, I don't even know what 144 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,360 words that would be. I know a sitcom made fun of it 145 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,800 at one point and the word was like hippopotamus or something. 146 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,240 And and and the the wife worked it in the conversation 147 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,240 immediately. The husband who also like must 148 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,480 have just said what was on his mind like like you did, was just 149 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:17,600 like, we have to go. My favorite, my favorite Midwest 150 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:22,840 indication of it's time to leave is, well, I suppose. 151 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,440 And you know, like you hear that and you're like, oh, you're 152 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:26,360 leaving. OK, that's fine. 153 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,840 But yeah, well, I suppose like I don't, I don't know if that is 154 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:35,000 only in the Midwest, but it's definitely a thing I've heard a 155 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,960 lot as people are exiting. For sure one of my favorite 156 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:42,360 things from Harry Potter. Just the like the inventive 157 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:44,840 whatever universe of Harry Potter. 158 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,600 Do you remember Professor Slughorn's hourglass? 159 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:52,240 The the sand timer that it, the sand moves quickly if the 160 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,560 conversation is is stimulating and thought provoking and and 161 00:08:55,560 --> 00:08:58,760 good, but this it moves really slowly if the conversation is 162 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,120 dull and uninteresting, that's pretty good. 163 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,680 I thought that would be like, that would be a cool thing to 164 00:09:03,680 --> 00:09:06,720 have in a house if it actually worked that way, gauging the 165 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,400 quality of the yeah, of the fellowship, I guess. 166 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:11,640 That's pretty good. Have you ever? 167 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:13,760 Have you ever done the Irish? Goodbye. 168 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:18,160 The Irish goodbye so. Have you ever just, like, pieced 169 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,800 out you didn't tell anybody? And then, you know, and maybe 170 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,960 you even drive away in your car kind of chuckling to yourself. 171 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,440 Like, I wonder if they've gotten to the point, like, where'd Mac 172 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,320 go? I don't know that I've ever 173 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,360 executed the Irish goodbye. I've been there as others have 174 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,040 Irish goodbye. That's definitely happened in my 175 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:35,280 life. If you don't know, like if you 176 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,440 don't know what that is, that's just you, don't you? 177 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,800 You don't say, well, I suppose you, you don't say goodbye to 178 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,560 anyone. You just get up and leave most 179 00:09:46,560 --> 00:09:49,160 perfectly without anyone really noticing. 180 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,640 And just like 10 minutes later, everyone's like, where's Chris? 181 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,880 And then they figure out that you're just gone like that, you 182 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,000 just left. I think that's the perfect, 183 00:09:58,160 --> 00:09:59,680 perfectly executed Irish goodbye. 184 00:10:00,680 --> 00:10:03,640 I mean, it's, I don't know if it's a classy move, but it's 185 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,960 pretty funny sometimes. It can be, yeah. 186 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:10,040 It can be the appropriate departure in some situations. 187 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:14,120 So yeah, I don't goodbyes. Goodbyes are weird. 188 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:19,480 Goodbyes are terrible for us because even at the point that I 189 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,200 don't, yeah, we have to do it seven different ways, really. 190 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:27,360 Like we have to wrangle each of the the children out of their 191 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,600 activity or conversation that they're having. 192 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,360 And then most often we're in, I don't know, it depends on where 193 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:34,800 we're going. Sometimes we're in the same car. 194 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,680 A lot of time at church we're in separate cars. 195 00:10:36,680 --> 00:10:38,840 So like we have half the kids going with one of us and half 196 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,200 with the other. And even for us, we were. 197 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:46,000 It just takes so long to goodbye. 198 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:50,040 Like, even once you decide that we need to leave, that's like, 199 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:54,240 OK, maybe 20 minutes from now we'll actually be in the car. 200 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:55,680 Yeah. So. 201 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:57,960 It's hard. One of the funny things about 202 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,640 goodbyes is if you're a, if you're a particularly like, you 203 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,760 know, if you're a hugger, right? So like you like to give hugs 204 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,120 goodbye and stuff. I've been in a number of 205 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:12,240 scenarios where the goodbye process is starting and so you 206 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,960 you give the person a hug, but then there's the conversation 207 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,440 somehow continues for another 10 to 15 minutes. 208 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,040 And then there has to be the secondary goodbye hug because 209 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,200 it's been long enough that the first hug has now expired. 210 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,720 And so now we're on to the second goodbye hug. 211 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:33,960 That's a real thing. I didn't have the thought till 212 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,080 just now and I have. I really have not thought about 213 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,920 it before. I think I am more of a hello 214 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,840 hugger than than a goodbye hugger. 215 00:11:43,680 --> 00:11:45,000 I don't. Yeah. 216 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,920 And I don't know if there needs to be a distinction, but I also 217 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,440 think that might be part of the problem. 218 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:55,120 Does does the hug indicate I want to spend more time? 219 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,880 Like I want to continue the time I'm spending or or enter into 220 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,960 the time I'm spending with you more than does that? 221 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:06,720 That embrace doesn't really facilitate a leaving right? 222 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,920 You might be right. I don't know, I literally have 223 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,280 never thought of it. Just popped in my head, but as I 224 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,080 thought about how I usually interact with people, it's 225 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,440 usually a greeting. It's usually a greeting, not a 226 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,600 goodbye. But I might be a weird hugger. 227 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:20,320 So I don't know. I don't know. 228 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:21,960 I haven't thought about that either. 229 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,760 Like on the entrance or the exit. 230 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,480 Which one is better, more appropriate? 231 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,760 I don't know. Oh my gosh. 232 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,520 You huggers out there, it's a well, I feel like if someone's a 233 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,160 hugger, they probably do it both, but right, it's it's a 234 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,240 greeting and it's a good. Buy and if you're having dinner, 235 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,640 maybe even somewhere in between because, oh, the food was great 236 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,960 and we're putting our dishes away and you know, Oh my, yeah, 237 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:42,800 it can. It can be. 238 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,800 About hugs left and right. It can be all over the place 239 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,000 just. Doesn't need a deep reason to 240 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,080 hug. It's hugging all the time. 241 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:50,320 Yeah, it's true. It's true. 242 00:12:51,560 --> 00:12:52,920 It's true. All right. 243 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,920 What's your biggest goodbye struggle? 244 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,200 What's what's, what's the scenario, the situation that 245 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:04,320 it's most difficult to leave? I feel like a lot for a lot of 246 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,000 people, it might be church. I I feel like, and that's fine. 247 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,120 I like that. I like that people hang out at 248 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,160 church. I like that it's a hard place to 249 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,040 leave afterwards. We were at a birthday party 250 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,760 yesterday too, and that was with some other friends that they, it 251 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,040 finally was a nice day yesterday when thinking about going to the 252 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:23,840 pool. And but it wasn't, it was a 253 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,000 weird thing. I I felt like we weren't quite 254 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:30,360 at a place to leave where we had been there like appropriate 255 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:35,400 amount of time to get to that. Well, I suppose sort of like, I 256 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,080 feel like we haven't reached the level of time where it was 257 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,520 appropriate to be like, yeah, we're going to peace. 258 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,720 So I don't know. That was that was strange too. 259 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,480 So texting that would be like, we're at this place probably 260 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:49,920 need to be here for a little bit longer like. 261 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:51,960 Yeah. And that's the other thing. 262 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:53,920 Like what if you haven't been there long enough? 263 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,040 Like you just don't feel like so, yeah. 264 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,560 You show up to, that's when the Irish goodbye happens, right? 265 00:13:58,560 --> 00:14:01,800 Like if you haven't, if you, you don't let them know that you're 266 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:03,800 leaving early. You're just gone. 267 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,080 And then they have no idea how long you were actually there, 268 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:07,600 really. That's true, especially if 269 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,760 there's a lot of people. If it's if it's a pretty large 270 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,600 gathering, then you can really get away with that pretty well. 271 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,840 But if you're having dinner with like, you know, two other 272 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,080 couples, like how I mean, that's. 273 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,080 Can't blitz out of that. No, you can't. 274 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,360 And if you do, then you'll probably need never be invited 275 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,720 back again because they'll be like, oh gosh, they hate us. 276 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,120 They hate us. We probably offended them in 277 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,760 some way or, you know, I I have no idea. 278 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:31,960 Yeah. The bigger the crowd, the the 279 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,120 better that. Right, yes, yeah. 280 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,920 And honestly, I don't yeah, I don't know that I could you 281 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,600 Irish goodbye as a couple. Feel like I've only ever seen 282 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:46,560 that done like in single and I guess you could you just gone. 283 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,720 Actually, no, I've been Irish goodbye by a couple. 284 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:53,640 So I guess you can, yeah. I think with the, with the 285 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:57,360 Irish, goodbye with the couple, you know, yeah, you have to 286 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,720 wonder, like, did they just not like us? 287 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,840 Or, you know, maybe, I don't know. 288 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:07,600 I don't know. No, I don't. 289 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,720 I didn't get that conclusion. I was, I was Irish. 290 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:14,280 Goodbye by a couple. We were, we were, we were 291 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:15,400 outside. It was a summer night. 292 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,840 It was years ago summer night, but we were having a bonfire at 293 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:22,720 their house. And after a while there were 294 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,720 just like 3 or 4 of us left around the fire and we were, 295 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,080 we're and they just, they just didn't come. 296 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,160 We were, we were never really like inside their house during 297 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:32,680 the evening. It was, it was literally just 298 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:33,840 like we had a cookout in the yard. 299 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,800 We were outside and we were on the bonfire and all of a sudden 300 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,120 they were just gone. And we're like, where are they 301 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,400 at? And they they were inside and 302 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,480 they didn't come back out. At their own house? 303 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,000 Who? Knows what it was good. 304 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,840 I mean, it was it was fine, but in that instance it wasn't a 305 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,080 like they were just done. They were just done for the and 306 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,440 they were fine with us hanging out around the fire, but it was 307 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:57,920 it was just late enough that they're just like, all right, 308 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,080 time's up. We turned into pumpkins. 309 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,520 Oh my gosh, you know, I would have assumed I would have, I 310 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,080 would have assumed that if a couple who owned the house where 311 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,600 we were hanging out and you know, maybe that center there's 312 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,800 campfire, whatever and they both leave. 313 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,840 I would assume that there were just, you know, maybe some 314 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:19,000 marital activities happening and that's and then you're going to 315 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:23,000 come back out whenever and at least say goodbye or oh, hey, 316 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:27,440 it's we're going to turn in or whatever, but to just never come 317 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,720 back out at all. Wow. 318 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,920 I don't think, OK, if that's the hypothesis, I don't think I 319 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,080 would come back out. I don't think I'd be like, hey, 320 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,360 yeah, we just. He's having a moment. 321 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,400 You guys have a great night like I. 322 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:42,560 Don't know. Yeah, OK. 323 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,280 First. And foremost in my mind to be 324 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,720 like, oh, let me make sure everybody's good outside still. 325 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,160 Sure. Yeah, and it. 326 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:50,800 Was fine. I didn't, I don't know. 327 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,080 I didn't feel like they were. So who put out the fire? 328 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:54,160 It's not their house. Yeah. 329 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,760 We, I mean, we stayed till it burned out or I, I actually 330 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,680 wound up, wait, a couple of us wound up hanging out like for 331 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:06,920 hours after that. The the sand in the the sun, the 332 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,920 sand dial would have been moving very quickly. 333 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,560 We actually had a very stimulating conversation that 334 00:17:12,599 --> 00:17:14,119 evening, so. Well, but then you have to 335 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,599 wonder. OK, you have to wonder. 336 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,040 Wait, it's been like 3 hours since they've been out here at 337 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,119 their own house. Are they just, like, looking out 338 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,839 the window at us? Like these people will never 339 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,480 leave? And you're just like, yeah, I 340 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,800 don't know. That would make me feel awkward. 341 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,600 But they didn't, they didn't send any grounds. 342 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,600 They they didn't even acknowledge like, hey, we're 343 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,240 going in. You guys are welcome to hang out 344 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,680 as long as you want. Like they were just gone. 345 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,360 And no, we texted them. There was no communication after 346 00:17:43,360 --> 00:17:45,400 the evening. It was, but also did. 347 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,800 Yeah, didn't feel like they. Now, did you continue to like 348 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,520 talk to the host people after that and everything? 349 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:52,200 Oh yeah, it. Was fine. 350 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,880 It was fine. It was funny, but and yeah, 351 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,600 probably your hypothesis is true. 352 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,040 Yeah, sure. Yeah, so it was fine. 353 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,440 I just, that was a weird scenario. 354 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,880 Irish goodbye on their own property. 355 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,520 So you can do it. You can find the appropriate 356 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,000 forms for him. All right. 357 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,560 Wow. We talked about goodbyes for a 358 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,320 long time. But that's appropriate because 359 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,600 Paul is saying goodbye, so it's very thematic. 360 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,920 Paul is saying goodbye. We are in Acts chapter 20. 361 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:25,760 I covered verses 17 through about 27. 362 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,320 Jumped around a little bit yesterday too. 363 00:18:29,120 --> 00:18:34,640 Didn't talk about his warnings of wolves and paying attention 364 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,600 to the flock and being alert. We'll get into that a little 365 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,120 bit. But you had, I'll read, I'll 366 00:18:40,120 --> 00:18:42,600 read some of the verses here, but you had some ideas of things 367 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,880 that were actually talked about in Bible study that I touched on 368 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:50,040 a little bit yesterday. So we'll read through some of 369 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:54,440 the passage here and touch on a couple different topics other 370 00:18:54,440 --> 00:19:00,080 than I, I mostly focused on on legacy yesterday and what Paul 371 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,920 was leaving and what really mattered in that He had he had 372 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,560 three things. He had the, the surety of the 373 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:12,400 word, the surety of what Jesus did and the spirit going with 374 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,080 him and, and before him. And that was enough that that 375 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:20,280 was the things he needed to feel that he had a full life. 376 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:25,520 He didn't he didn't even need to fully see the church thriving or 377 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,240 growing or change. He says that he says at the end 378 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:32,760 of the passage, sort of I, I commend you to God into the word 379 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,640 of his grace who was able to build you up and give you the 380 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,080 inheritance like I shared these things. 381 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:41,680 You're in God's power. You know his word, it's it's not 382 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,120 my responsibility anymore to get you to live in this way. 383 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,400 You know the things, you know how you're supposed to live. 384 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,760 So it wasn't even he wasn't even gauging his success or the OR 385 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,280 the legacy of his life on how well the church in Ephesus did. 386 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,360 It was more that he preached them the whole truth about God 387 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,840 and didn't leave things out and and taught them to walk in the 388 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:04,000 ways of Jesus. So. 389 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,840 Well, and actually thinking of not leaving things out, you 390 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:12,720 know, Acts 2020, I did not shrink from declaring to you 391 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,720 anything that was profitable and teaching you in public and from 392 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,040 house to house. And he goes on. 393 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:22,600 But this one of the things that we definitely talked about that 394 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,880 I thought was really interesting that I think probably touches 395 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:30,040 most believers at some point, unless you're just really, 396 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:34,320 really bold, is like, yeah, how many times have we thought about 397 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:38,800 like in in any given moment with a person who maybe isn't a 398 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,400 believer or who needs something that we have to offer them 399 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,240 spiritually? And for some reason, we hold 400 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,600 back those words and we just kind of keep it on the surface 401 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,320 because we're like, I don't know if I want to get into all this. 402 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,600 Like, you know, that shrinking back, that's pretty real. 403 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:59,440 And I know that like, I'm probably most likely to shrink 404 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:04,280 back from like speaking biblical truth, actually, when it's like 405 00:21:04,360 --> 00:21:07,800 my own family. And I had to, and I had to admit 406 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,360 that. And then we have to, you know, 407 00:21:09,360 --> 00:21:11,440 we were kind of talking through. Why do you think that is? 408 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,840 Like, why do we shrink back from speaking the gospel to our 409 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,200 family? But, you know, for me, it's 410 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,760 really easy to talk to strangers about it. 411 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,760 And I don't know why. Maybe it should be the other way 412 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,160 around. But for me, like I tend to 413 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,320 shrink back when it's my own family. 414 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,200 There's a little irony there because I mean, with the 415 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:35,640 strangers, we have the safety net of potentially, possibly 416 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,720 probably never seeing them again, right? 417 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:45,640 So we can, you can have that conversation and leave it and 418 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,080 it's never really circled back to, but you don't in most 419 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:50,920 instances. You don't know how that played 420 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:56,200 out in their lives with family. That's where like awkward 421 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,320 holiday dinners happen, right? Like politics and religion is 422 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,080 where all the feelings come out, right? 423 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:08,680 And by and large, those things don't always bother bother me. 424 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:14,000 But I'm really not off put by conflict too much or yeah, or 425 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,200 whatever awkward situation, it's fine. 426 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:23,480 But for most, I mean most humans, most people don't like 427 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,440 that. We don't want to be in conflict. 428 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,200 We don't want to bring up something potentially 429 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:32,600 contentious or even just in regular conversation. 430 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:36,200 I mean, we bring up things that we bring up things that we know 431 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,440 the other person's going to like, right? 432 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,880 Like you don't. I wouldn't I wouldn't go up to 433 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,960 someone, man. OK, now I'm trying to think of 434 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,440 an example, but like, I don't play tennis. 435 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,520 I would not go up to a tennis player, I guess. 436 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,000 And it makes it sound like there's just tennis players out 437 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:54,320 there. You're. 438 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,720 Just walking around. But like, I wouldn't go up to a 439 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,840 tennis player and be like, Hey, do you know how to play this Led 440 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,120 Zeppelin riff? Like, can we do you want to you 441 00:23:04,120 --> 00:23:06,480 want to work on this guitar solo with like, I wouldn't, I 442 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:10,720 wouldn't expect that person to have that same exact shared 443 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,880 interest that that I had musically, right? 444 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,360 So like we, we usually have some sort of common ground. 445 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,600 And I think that's where the awkwardness, even the family 446 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,520 comes. If we know personal experience, 447 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,320 life experience has told us they don't want to hear it or it's 448 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:32,160 not for them, then it's then it's like we already have that 449 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,040 resistance. We already have that blowback or 450 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:39,960 push back from that. But that's not Paul's. 451 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,080 Paul's not allowing that as an excuse here. 452 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:42,720 Really. Right. 453 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,800 He said how I did not shrink back. 454 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:49,600 The the Greek Greek word is way too long for me to actually say 455 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,040 hoopestailaman. Woah. 456 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,320 Yeah, that's a good one. But so shrink is actually, I 457 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,720 think a really good modern translation. 458 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:02,040 Most literally it's it's to draw back is is this hoopestello the 459 00:24:02,120 --> 00:24:06,320 the root of that? So to so to shrink back, to draw 460 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:12,760 back to, to restrict and kind of mute that that sort of phrase 461 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,440 he's, he's saying I didn't do this. 462 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,600 I told you everything I I talked about yesterday how he didn't, 463 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,920 he didn't edit, he didn't take out the harshness of the law. 464 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,520 He didn't take out the bad things. 465 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,800 He gave them the whole of God's word, right. 466 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,600 He didn't make it more palatable And I. 467 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,560 And I love that you mentioned that actually, because it's 468 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,560 true. Like there's, there's nothing 469 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,600 about the Bible that we need to apologize for. 470 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,560 You know, there are things that we need to explain whether hey, 471 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,680 you know, it sounds like this because actually that's poetry. 472 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,600 You know, that's that kind of genre that we're reading right 473 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:50,760 now. We're not reading history, we're 474 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,800 reading poetry or whatever. So there are things that we have 475 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,520 to explain, but never things that we have to apologize for. 476 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,520 Right. And I think that's more of what 477 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,240 he's getting at. And I think it's, I think that's 478 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,360 part of the tension in wrestling with sharing these things with 479 00:25:04,360 --> 00:25:07,400 friends or family that may be resistant to it too. 480 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,000 We feel like we have to apologize. 481 00:25:10,120 --> 00:25:12,120 We feel like we have to say, I know you don't want to hear 482 00:25:12,120 --> 00:25:14,680 this, but it's what I believe. So I'm going to share it with 483 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,880 you. We somehow need to stop short of 484 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,840 that and just be bold about what we believe, right? 485 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,360 And you, you, I think you mentioned you were talking in 486 00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:27,720 Bible study on Thursday about that fear, Like what it, how 487 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,840 does, how does that fear come about? 488 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,920 And it sounds what I'm going to say is it, it sounds really 489 00:25:34,360 --> 00:25:41,400 harsh and cold. But if you're shrinking back, if 490 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:47,520 you're holding back the word of God or what you believe and and 491 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:52,800 thereby not sharing the opportunity of eternal life with 492 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:57,920 that person for the sake of their earthly life here or your 493 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:02,600 earthly relationship with them here, you should be willing to 494 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,920 sacrifice the earthly relationship here for the sake 495 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,680 of their eternal life, right? And I know that sounds terrible 496 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:11,360 and. Harsh no. 497 00:26:11,360 --> 00:26:14,160 And I, and I hear that and I receive that as somebody who 498 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,040 like has again, I, you know, full confession. 499 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,640 Like I've shrank back in moments where I knew I should have 500 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,720 gotten bigger and bolder with what I was going to say. 501 00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:26,040 And so I, I've had those thoughts of just saying, man, 502 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:30,080 like, what am I doing? Like, wouldn't it be worth it to 503 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,600 put this thing on the line or, you know, And then so the law 504 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,920 feels very heavy in those moments of saying, like, do I 505 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,520 not trust God as much as I should? 506 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,680 And, and you start asking those questions and, and I think those 507 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,200 are valid questions to ask. Those are good reflective 508 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,600 questions that maybe, you know, even brings about some sense of 509 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,360 repentance. But those questions, if we allow 510 00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:52,720 them to Burrow so deep, they can. 511 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:54,800 Yeah. They have the potential to bring 512 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,400 about a lot of shame. And you know, we don't want to 513 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,040 live in shame because we have the gospel, we have forgiveness 514 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,000 inside Jesus Christ. But like, there is a line there 515 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,560 where it's like, you know what, maybe I do need to feel the 516 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,400 weight of like falling short and, you know, pray for a new 517 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,440 opportunity and pray for a new sense of boldness and courage 518 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,800 the next time I I have the opportunity. 519 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,400 And I think that's the chief part of the fear in that maybe, 520 00:27:20,120 --> 00:27:24,040 maybe to some degree, we know their resistance to it, but 521 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:29,360 there's also an element of uncertainty in there to how how 522 00:27:29,360 --> 00:27:33,480 they will react or what they how they might respond to it, 523 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,920 especially if we think that they already hate it or or aren't 524 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:42,640 going to want to hear it. Paul, though, speaks to that 525 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,760 uncertainty specifically though, to now, behold, I'm going to 526 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,080 Jerusalem. This is verse 22 in chapter 20. 527 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,600 Constrained by the Holy Spirit, not knowing what will happen to 528 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:57,640 me there, so compelled by the work, the ministry that is 529 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,880 before him, so compelled by his relationship with the Holy 530 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,200 Spirit that he's just certain he has to go. 531 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,400 Not certain what's in store, what the response, what the 532 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,200 acceptance or reception of Him is going to be there. 533 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:18,320 Certain He has to go to battle back that fear like we should, 534 00:28:18,360 --> 00:28:22,600 we should be certain. I'm not supposed to keep this in 535 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,120 right? It's it's the, it's the city on 536 00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:28,880 a hill, the light of the world, the the lampstand. 537 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,280 We talked about that in Revelation too, right? 538 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:36,560 Jesus warned the churches, if you're covering this thing up, 539 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,040 I'm going to take away your lampstand. 540 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,760 If if you're not shining this light for me, you don't deserve 541 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:46,240 to have it. So I know it's not. 542 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,680 It sounds sitting in an office across from each other on 543 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,160 microphones. It sounds so simple in words. 544 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:57,120 I know it's very different than in person across the table from 545 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,680 a person you care about, from a person that you want ongoing 546 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,840 relationship with. But how do we get our how do we 547 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:08,520 recalibrate our minds to a level of attraction, a level of 548 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:13,880 relationship with a person that is first and almost informed in 549 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,680 Jesus like that? Whatever relationships you have 550 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,160 on earth, I'm not saying don't hang out with non Christians. 551 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,560 That's not what I'm saying. But do you have relationships in 552 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,600 your life that you really like and love and you know that they 553 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:35,080 don't know Jesus? You should want them to know 554 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,840 Jesus. You should, you should care 555 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,680 enough. Do you have that level of care 556 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,840 about them that you want them to have the same opportunity of 557 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,200 eternal life that you have? Like I'm not saying that 558 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,360 relationship is wasted, but to some degree. 559 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,400 Well, it's the classic and I you, I, I think I've probably 560 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,320 heard this, you know, four or five different ways is, you 561 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,120 know, if they were about to drive off the edge of the Cliff, 562 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,760 would you tell them to hit their brakes? 563 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,240 You know, and there's a there's a hundred different little 564 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,400 sayings like that and, and, you know, everybody looks and says, 565 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,400 well, of course I would. Well, if. 566 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,200 We don't always feel that urgency in the moment. 567 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,240 I think that's what it. And maybe that's part of The 568 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,920 thing is the urgency. We're like, well, you know, 569 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:20,080 somebody else can do it or I could just kind of probably 570 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,720 invite them to church on Christmas. 571 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,200 And so they'll hear it there if I can get them, if I can get 572 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,400 them there on Christmas. And, you know, the pastor will 573 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,200 do that work for me or whatever. And so I mean, I, I can 574 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,280 understand all those things. I think, you know, there's some 575 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,240 legitimacy to, to that kind of stuff. 576 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,280 But at the same time, like the word urgency that you used, 577 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,400 like, yeah, urgency is an important word. 578 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,160 And, you know, the Bible's pretty clear. 579 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,960 Like, hey, don't put off. Don't put off. 580 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,480 You know, the Spirit today. Don't do that. 581 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,320 You know, because we just, we just don't know. 582 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,120 We just don't know. We don't, and I think, I think 583 00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:01,640 we can get ourselves in danger a little bit of, of justifying 584 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:06,560 that urgency of feeling like we have more time with or, or maybe 585 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,480 that we even need more time to sort of, well, I'll keep, I'll 586 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,280 keep hanging out with him and then sort of finesse this 587 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,400 relationship. And once I feel that they're 588 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,360 comfortable or I'm comfortable enough for them or they trust me 589 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,360 enough, then, then I'll share Jesus with them. 590 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:28,480 But at whatever point, if your relationship with them isn't 591 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,280 founded in any shape or form about Jesus, that's there's, 592 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,600 that's always going to be an awkward wall to break down 593 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,160 right? If if that's not an active part 594 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,600 of how you hang out, that or why you have relationship with them, 595 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,560 there's never going to be like a perfect moment for that. 596 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,160 Right. Am I crazy for? 597 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,880 Saying it's true. I mean, you know, I don't know, 598 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,440 maybe maybe a lot of adults, I know they haven't made a new 599 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,160 friend in probably like 15 years, but you know, maybe he 600 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:03,000 needs it's hard or we make it harder than what it is. 601 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,680 But anyway, you know, let's say, hey, your kid is in this sport 602 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,680 or activity. And so, you know, you end up 603 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,320 hanging out with these parents a bunch of different times and you 604 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:13,920 know, that progresses into something else. 605 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,640 And so, you know, eventually have dinner, whatever. 606 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,840 And, you know, you've been hanging out with them off and on 607 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,120 for six months, and then now finally, after six months, 608 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,760 you're going to drop the Jesus bomb on them when it's like, I 609 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,560 had no idea you were a Christian because I couldn't tell by your 610 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,200 life. I couldn't tell by your words. 611 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,800 I couldn't tell by any of this. And now all of a sudden, like, 612 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,880 you feel this weird urgency to like, try and give me Jesus over 613 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,600 dinner. Like, that's, yeah, that's weird 614 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,760 too. So, I mean, to some extent, like 615 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,280 to some extent you would, you would like to think or hope that 616 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,640 like the life we're living or how we interact with people. 617 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:54,920 Like it does make get even mildly obvious that like there 618 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,840 is something about this Christian life that sets us 619 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,400 apart and makes us look and interact differently. 620 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,800 And so if we are perfectly like the rest of the world, which I 621 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:08,120 have done a great job blending into, you know, which is 622 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:13,000 troubling sometimes, you know, like, yeah, then it then it does 623 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,360 feel weird and it does feel, feel out of left field. 624 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,360 It's kind of like, have you ever, have you ever had a person 625 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,080 that you've met but you don't really know them, but you've 626 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,560 seen them enough times that like you can't go up to them and be 627 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,960 like, what's your name again? Like like, like you've seen, 628 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,440 you've seen them enough, maybe even had enough conversations 629 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:36,320 with them that like, it would be so crushingly offensive for you 630 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,520 to be like, who are you? Matt, it's not fair for you to 631 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,520 ask me that because somebody's going to come up to me on a 632 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,520 Sunday and they're going to be like, so Pastor Chris, I've been 633 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,680 coming here for six months. What's my name? 634 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,600 Thanks a lot, Matt. Really appreciate that. 635 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,400 The pressure's on now. But I wonder if that's kind of 636 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,000 the point. Do you get to a point in a 637 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,400 relationship with friends or family where it's like, Oh, I 638 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,840 should have talked to you about Jesus a long time ago? 639 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:10,520 And now it's like, why didn't you care enough about this back 640 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,679 then to to talk to me about you're bringing it up so 641 00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:15,600 urgently now or so importantly now. 642 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,600 You should have brought something years ago if you 643 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,120 actually believe. I think I think that could be 644 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,800 part of it too. We kind of maybe missed that 645 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:27,520 window and then it feels weird. The other thing I was I was 646 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:32,040 thinking of it brought back AI. Don't remember which speaker it 647 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:36,639 was at exponential, but on on the idea of of urgency. 648 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,840 And that's what I was so convicted by. 649 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,360 And I hope, I think it came out in the sermon yesterday. 650 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:48,600 I hope it did just how little Paul needed for his life. 651 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,320 He's that's he's going from city to city. 652 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:57,520 He's going from town to town preaching Jesus and building up 653 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,360 the believers there. And that's it. 654 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,520 And he's kind of he's kind of in a hurry to get, but he's so 655 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,680 convicted that the Spirit needs him to go to Jerusalem is 656 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,320 compelling him to go do it. Like he barely has time to stop 657 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,280 off and talk to these elders, but he knows that he's never 658 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:11,920 going to see him again. So he takes the time to do it. 659 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,760 And he has nothing else. He doesn't have family, he 660 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,920 doesn't have friends. He's just it like it makes me 661 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,680 feel like a terrible Christian because he's living a fully a 662 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:27,720 fulfilled life in this as the apostle Paul. 663 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,160 And that's it. He he's preaching the gospel and 664 00:35:31,240 --> 00:35:35,880 building up churches and that's way more than enough for him to 665 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,520 be fulfilled. And he's doing it while I'm sure 666 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,760 the churches and the elders are grateful for it, but the rest of 667 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,120 the world is actively fighting against him for it. 668 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:49,600 And so that was convicting for me this week. 669 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,560 But also, I don't remember which speaker it was at Exponential, 670 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:59,560 but they used the phrase phrase God's not the one who's not in a 671 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,120 hurry. And, and I know and I know 672 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,360 that's a double negative. Yeah, that took me a second to 673 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,120 wrap my head because of that. Yeah, I get it. 674 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,560 Though, but I, I, I think we can, we talk about that in 675 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,640 church works of, of not being in a hurry. 676 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,600 Ivan, I opened with the words of Isaiah yesterday of, of, of 677 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,840 waiting on the Lord. I think sometimes we kid 678 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,120 ourselves that, oh, this, this feels like a really good idea. 679 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:26,080 I feel really compelled by this. But I'm going to wait and pray 680 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,640 about it. And maybe a month from now, like 681 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,720 if this, if this itch is still, if this, if I'm feeling 682 00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:34,280 compelled, but if I'm feeling led by the Holy Spirit, we'll 683 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,320 answer into that. Maybe that was a thing for like 684 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,280 today for for like right now. And I think that's what the 685 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,240 speaker is getting at. God, God's not the one who's not 686 00:36:43,240 --> 00:36:47,320 in a hurry. If we could reach and preach and 687 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:54,800 teach each person in the world about Jesus today, we probably 688 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:55,840 should do that. Right. 689 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,760 Like God would be good with that. 690 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,440 I don't. I don't think God's up there 691 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:06,320 saying, you know, that. Give him, give that neighbor 100 692 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,480 days from now. Sure, go get him. 693 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:09,840 Yeah. I think it's. 694 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,840 I think it's probably. That makes sense. 695 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,600 Maybe today. Maybe today go get him right? 696 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,880 So God, God's not the one who's not in a hurry. 697 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,400 And we somehow give ourselves this. 698 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,640 We feel like that. We know we're mortal. 699 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,560 We feel like we have forever. We feel like we have this time. 700 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,960 Until you don't feel that way and you know, you, you interact 701 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,520 with enough people and then, and then as soon as you realize, Oh 702 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,040 my gosh, I'm not bulletproof or whatever. 703 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,360 Like then in comes the, the hurried regret. 704 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,960 And that's, that's one of the more painful things I've seen 705 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,040 people go through quite honestly, like emotionally, you 706 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,080 know, just working with people and talking with people. 707 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,920 It's, you know, and then they look backwards and they say, 708 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:56,080 gosh, what, why was I so afraid? Why was I so worried? 709 00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:00,880 Like it seems like it seems so small now to do or say that 710 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,440 thing or to give forgiveness. Like I feel like such an idiot, 711 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,800 you know, like what a coward I was. 712 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,000 And and so when we look backwards, you know, they always 713 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:13,880 say it's 2020 vision going back. But like those things happen and 714 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:19,760 that's real for a lot of people. And so, you know, not that 715 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,600 that's the reason to speak is because I don't want to have 716 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,840 regrets later. But like, those things are real 717 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,600 later on. And having watched a lot of 718 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,560 people go through that stuff, like, yeah, I would encourage in 719 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,160 any way, shape or form possible, even if you're a completely 720 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,480 selfish person in some ways and you're like, well, I don't want 721 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,280 to feel that because that's really bad. 722 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,000 Yeah. Well, maybe you need to lean 723 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,000 into that because it's it's going to happen if we're not 724 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:48,560 really honest and open about the thing that we believe in for 725 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,240 salvation. Yeah, because even in those 726 00:38:51,240 --> 00:38:55,280 moments, if whatever someone close to you of a friend or 727 00:38:55,560 --> 00:39:00,760 family member, if they have one of these mortality moments, I 728 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,520 said earlier, there's there's probably no perfect condition to 729 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:08,200 talk to them about Jesus. Their heart might be ready in 730 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,400 that moment, might be searching. Oh, it might have a brush with 731 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,960 death sort of mortality experience in their in their 732 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:20,040 life and I don't know, it still doesn't feel like the perfect 733 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,600 moment. Like even with that, even when 734 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,720 their heart is probably ready and searching for, Oh my 735 00:39:23,720 --> 00:39:26,760 goodness, there has to be more than what I'm going through 736 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,720 right now. I don't know, that still doesn't 737 00:39:29,720 --> 00:39:33,720 feel like the moment. I guess to to bring that to 738 00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:34,880 them. I just, I just don't think there 739 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,680 is a perfect moment. There really is. 740 00:39:37,720 --> 00:39:41,560 We imagine one like, Oh well, when they say this or when they 741 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,600 go through this, I'm definitely going to have the nerve to do it 742 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,400 then. If you don't have it now, you 743 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,360 may not have it then either. Don't don't fool yourself. 744 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,680 You know, So like I do think too amongst all this kind of 745 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,880 conversation, you know, and I and there was I've heard studies 746 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,880 of this the more you are and we. It feels like we're harping on 747 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,160 it, but the more you're in God's word, the more often, the the 748 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,680 deeper you are, the easier those conversations are because it's 749 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,040 just God's word just becomes a normal part of your vocabulary. 750 00:40:13,720 --> 00:40:17,360 But how can God's word and how can you know his grace, his 751 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,040 mercy, all these things? How can that be a normal part of 752 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:25,240 your vocabulary if you're just taking in the word on a Sunday 753 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,960 two or three times a month or whatever, Like that's not going 754 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,600 to be a part of your normal vocabulary. 755 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:34,320 So, you know, again, same thing to the, to the extent and to the 756 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,920 degree and you know that we're actively in God's word 757 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,120 regularly. Those things are just going to 758 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,240 flow out pretty naturally. You know, and I, and I heard it 759 00:40:43,240 --> 00:40:46,320 said once like, I don't know if it's totally true, but it's a 760 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,680 good saying. The things that change. 761 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,840 You are the people that you hang out with in the books you read, 762 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,640 you know, And so like, if, if I'm in God's Word, that's going 763 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,800 to change me, that's going to change my vocabulary, that's 764 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,000 going to change the things that I think about regularly. 765 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,960 It's going to change how I address certain situations and 766 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,040 on and on and on. And so again, as an 767 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,640 encouragement, if if you're listening to this and you've 768 00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:13,320 ever shrank back, you know, just take a moment to examine like, 769 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,440 OK, in those moments where I shrank back was I was I really 770 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,320 invested in God's Word And not saying that that's the reason 771 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:25,480 why you may have shrank back, but I know for me it was part of 772 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,080 it. It was certainly part of it in 773 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,440 those moments I can think back to. 774 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,920 Yeah, and I just we've we spent a lot of time on it. 775 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,760 But Paul does speak harshly against it. 776 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,040 I think he says it couple different times. 2020 he says 777 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,680 again in 2027 for I did not shrink from declaring to you the 778 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:45,360 whole council of God. And then and then he warns verse 779 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,400 28. Pay careful attention to 780 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,040 yourselves and to all the flock in which the Holy Spirit has 781 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,120 made you overseers. Again, He's, he's speaking to a 782 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,600 group of leaders, group of elders here specifically. 783 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,920 But generally, I think it does apply to, to all of us, to to 784 00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:03,000 Christians, to churchgoers. Holy Spirit has made you 785 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,600 overseers to care for the Church of God, which he obtained with 786 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,320 his own blood. I know that after my departure, 787 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,280 fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. 788 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,120 And from among your own cells will arise men speaking twisted 789 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,520 things to draw away the disciples after them. 790 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,800 Therefore be alert remembering that for three years I did not 791 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:23,560 cease night or day to admonish everyone with tears. 792 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:30,600 Now he's he's using the same did not shrink back language for 793 00:42:31,240 --> 00:42:35,760 disagreements happening in the church for false teaching 794 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:40,760 happening in the church. He didn't he didn't see it 795 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,680 happen. I was just like, whoa, let's, 796 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,200 let's see how this is going to play. 797 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:46,920 We'll talk about it at our meeting this weekend. 798 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,920 And then like a month from now, we'll see how it plays out and 799 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,480 if we have to take action. No, he was in this moment. 800 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,400 That doesn't line up with the word of God. 801 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,560 That needs to be squashed right now. 802 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,840 And yeah, it's going to be he says, he says he admonished them 803 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,280 with tears. He didn't enjoy it. 804 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,000 He didn't relish it. They were tough, hard 805 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:10,600 conversations, but it was family conversations, It was household 806 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:16,360 conversations for the church, and it had to be that way unless 807 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,840 the church body was going to get twisted and corrupted and 808 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,240 ultimately not be a church after God's heart, right? 809 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,920 Yeah. So, I mean, you know, he's so 810 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,000 right when he talks about, you know, fierce wolves will come in 811 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,560 among you. Like he doesn't say, hey, if you 812 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,400 don't do this and this, they're going to come. 813 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,640 He says, Nah, this, this is inevitable. 814 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:40,120 Like as soon as, as soon as the leaders even like, you know, 815 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,960 close their eyes for a minute, the wolves are coming in and 816 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,880 they're coming in with a false gospel. 817 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,600 They're coming in with something that is not Jesus. 818 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,400 It's going to be Jesus plus this or Jesus minus this and and it's 819 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,160 not going to be correct. And so, yeah, that's the other 820 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,520 part of like, you know, being bold in, in how we speak and 821 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,560 what we say and our willingness to just share what the Bible 822 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:05,440 says has truth capital T Truth is that if we don't, there is 823 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:09,200 going to be any number of people who come in and they're going to 824 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:13,640 be more than happy to boldly proclaim that which they see as 825 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,920 the going philosophy of the day that, oh, everybody should bend 826 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,760 towards this now because it. Yeah. 827 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,280 And so I mean, like the word has to say at center, but like we 828 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,800 also have to be bold in keeping it there no matter what that 829 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,480 looks like, even amongst conflict. 830 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:32,360 Right to stay vigilant in is the main thing, the main thing, and 831 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,440 I shared it a little bit in in the message yesterday. 832 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,000 Just reflection on our elder board meeting over the weekend 833 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,360 and thinking about mission, vision, vision and how we go 834 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,840 about doing things. What the culture of our church 835 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:49,040 does that does that reflect our house for the broken home for 836 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:53,160 the healed language? We started talking about more of 837 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,440 mission and vision, kind of the filter that we're doing things 838 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,680 are doing ministries are doing community outreaches. 839 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:04,200 Is it, does it grow us in knowing Jesus and making him 840 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:08,120 known to others? But part of the root of that 841 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,200 conversation, I said yesterday in the message, one of the first 842 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:17,840 things was that the elders asked, are we encouraging the 843 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,840 people that come to our church to be in the Word of God? 844 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,720 That has to be the first thing. That has to be the common 845 00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:27,440 ground. If, if, if we want to have 846 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,600 healthy children's ministries, if we want to have healthy 847 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,520 marriages and families, if we want to have healthy believers, 848 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,760 are they in the Word of God and are we encouraging them? 849 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,960 Are the things we're doing as a church, as as ministries, as 850 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,960 outreaches, whatever it may be, is that encouraging the people 851 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,760 of this church to be in the Word of God? 852 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:52,000 I was immensely encouraged by that, that that's where their 853 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,360 focus is. Do we do that perfectly? 854 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,040 I don't think we do. I don't think we do it 855 00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,720 perfectly. But for that to be what our 856 00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:06,080 elders measure of success or legacy, I think that's right in 857 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:13,240 line with Paul here of that. That has to be Box 1, otherwise 858 00:46:13,240 --> 00:46:15,840 what are we doing? Otherwise, what's the rest of 859 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,760 anything? It doesn't even mean anything if 860 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,640 that's not where we're starting in the Word of God. 861 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,240 I think it is possible to become, you know, and I'm not 862 00:46:23,240 --> 00:46:26,280 saying that churches that have big cool buildings, I'm not 863 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,560 saying that they're doing anything wrong, but it is 864 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:32,440 entirely possible to be the coolest church on the block with 865 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,640 all the great kids stuff and awesome facilities and you've 866 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,080 got the best coffee in town and all these kinds of things. 867 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,120 And you know what? You're never actually giving 868 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,400 them any anything meaningful and you're not challenging people 869 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:46,960 either. You know, it's a challenge. 870 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,520 Somebody is to say, you know, have, I'm sorry, I know you. 871 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,680 I know I saw you on Sunday. But like, how is God moving the 872 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,280 rest of your week? And how do you know if you 873 00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,160 weren't praying and you weren't in his word? 874 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,000 You know, because, and we talked about this maybe a couple months 875 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,720 ago, like we're not trying to make a cool club. 876 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,080 Like that's not the idea. The church is not the cool kids 877 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,080 club. And in fact, it is usually the 878 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,440 opposite when we're doing the right things, right? 879 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:19,560 So I, I just think like, yeah, centering everything on God's 880 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:23,040 word and, and just keeping us tight right there. 881 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,320 That's going to be the thing that whether you have 40 people 882 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,240 or whether you have 200 people, this is the thing that the 883 00:47:30,240 --> 00:47:33,160 church is called to do. We are called to know Christ and 884 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,000 to make him known. Period. 885 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,960 Yeah, Yep. And that's that's what I hear in 886 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:43,520 this text too. It actually it comes from some 887 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,680 of his writings in Philippians where he where he Paul talks 888 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,280 about the the best thing, the greatest thing. 889 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:53,680 I think it's Philippians 4 that he talks about is OK considered 890 00:47:53,720 --> 00:47:56,520 all loss for the sake of knowing Christ. 891 00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:01,760 That's that's first and foremost his his life is second to 892 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,760 knowing Christ that the whatever, whatever that might 893 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:10,440 be, life, family, job, whatever it might be, is secondary pales 894 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:14,440 in comparison to knowing Christ. So it has to come from that. 895 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:20,320 And then if you know Christ and you truly know Christ well, then 896 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,600 you should, you should want to make him known. 897 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:26,040 If, if you truly know him right, then then the ones, especially 898 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,080 the ones closest to you, you should want to make sure that 899 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,400 they know him too. And I think so it's it's just it 900 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:35,520 was a really cool week for me to see this ministry of Paul and 901 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:39,360 what he wanted to leave this church in Ephesus with just 902 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,600 aligning with. We say sometimes that like 903 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,560 Scripture interprets Scripture and when we talk about parallel 904 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:51,040 passages and things, but just the consistency with which we 905 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,880 have, we have this theology. I brought up Christology and 906 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,120 ecclesiology things, the things that we believe about Christ and 907 00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:58,360 things that we believe about church. 908 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:03,440 Just the consistency in that, in the theology that we have from 909 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,400 Paul in, in the New Testament, those those things just all 910 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:12,160 align and inform each other. By the way, not to just drag 911 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,880 this conversation to a weird place, but you just said the 912 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:18,120 word Christology. So let me share a fun fact with 913 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,280 you. My wife heard you say 914 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,200 Christology. Yesterday. 915 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:28,000 And she's like, is that a joke? Like, because I think at one 916 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,960 point the Gospel Schweitzer or whatever. 917 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:34,280 New podcast segment. Christology and I'm sure there's 918 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,640 a lot of that, but she thought like she missed it and she 919 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,880 thought you were going to be making some kind of joke about 920 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,520 like the things I say or how I do things. 921 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,200 And she's like, oh, the Christology of this because she 922 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:48,040 did not hear the T in that word. So like she said that I was 923 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,160 like, oh, I need to come up with some Christology here to just 924 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,640 like, yeah, we need there. There needs to be a segment or 925 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,040 something. Yeah. 926 00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,280 So anyway, I thought you should know that. 927 00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,000 You should know that she thought you said Chrisology. 928 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,680 That's awesome. Speaking of that, I feel like I 929 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,000 don't, I don't know if we just scared it out of you or what, 930 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,720 but back when we started the leftovers podcast back in the 931 00:50:10,720 --> 00:50:14,720 revelation we brought up both of both of us have our ticks, 932 00:50:14,720 --> 00:50:17,440 right, Like I, I'm, I'm, I'm on the emotional side. 933 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:21,720 You have that that pause and that the non. 934 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,720 Verbals. Yeah, I feel like you've cleaned 935 00:50:24,720 --> 00:50:28,760 up the the like I don't. Do you think people miss it? 936 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,960 I no one's said that to me. No one's been like, when's Chris 937 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:38,240 going to start like, like I haven't, I haven't had anyone 938 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,440 come up to me and let me know what, when's Chris going to 939 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:42,720 bring those back. But. 940 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:43,880 Yeah, yeah. Oh. 941 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,280 So I don't know. If now I'm sad that it's not. 942 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,040 Been out and it just like it just like. 943 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,920 Now I'm sad that. Tracking you into the the. 944 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:59,600 The IT did, apparently. Oh boy, that would definitely be 945 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,360 in the in the Christology textbook. 946 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:03,920 I think that would be one of the things. 947 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:08,080 Well, you have to communicate through just noises, not actual 948 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,200 words. That's a part of Christology. 949 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,720 OK. Because you know that that kind 950 00:51:13,720 --> 00:51:16,600 of communication is sometimes highly effective. 951 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:20,040 I've I've, I, I, I'm sure it is. I heard. 952 00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:25,400 That next week, whole sermon, no words, just only emotion only 953 00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,760 only non verbals. If anybody signs up to listen to 954 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,280 that, oh man, I don't know. That would be so bad. 955 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:34,600 Don't do that. That would be terrible to be 956 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:35,560 gone this Sunday. Don't. 957 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,440 Don't do that. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's right. 958 00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:41,000 You, you and you and Kristen and others are not here this 959 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,080 upcoming Sunday. Yeah, you're flying solo. 960 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,160 That'll be great. Not solo, there's. 961 00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,720 No, there's so many people. Very capable band and 962 00:51:48,720 --> 00:51:51,880 connections, people and nurseries cover. 963 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,440 Children's church covered. Yeah. 964 00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,520 It's great. It takes a village, but I but I 965 00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,880 was I did tell Lissa. Maybe I didn't share this with 966 00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:01,920 you, but I will now. I did tell Lissa. 967 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,240 There are moments where like, you know, maybe I have a 968 00:52:05,240 --> 00:52:08,520 squirrel moment and I say some stuff and then I see you 969 00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,040 somewhere in the room and you've got, you're just like shaking 970 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:12,360 your head. And I'm like. 971 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,640 I do that it. Happens from time to time. 972 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:20,040 And so I will miss that you not being here. 973 00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,480 I miss you on Sundays when you're not here because it's 974 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,840 like I have I have no, because other people like you guys in 975 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,320 the audience, some of you are so good at just like, and I brought 976 00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,160 this up before the poker face thing, like I could say 977 00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:35,720 something ridiculous and there's just no reaction, but Matt 978 00:52:35,720 --> 00:52:38,120 reacts when I when I fly off the. 979 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,920 Handle. So like so then I know like 980 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,400 that's when I know like I better clean this up like all right, 981 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:49,320 tighten, tighten up, Chris. Yeah, someone else is going to 982 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,160 have to sit front row this week and keep you in line. 983 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,840 Either nods of approval or shake your head no and be like dude. 984 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,880 You got to stop condescending. What you doing, man? 985 00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,480 Yeah. So I need somebody sitting in 986 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:00,840 the front row for that this week. 987 00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,840 That's awesome. All right, Anything else from 988 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,880 this passage? I think I've said my piece on 989 00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:11,560 the things that I think we missed or I just, yeah, just 990 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:15,600 didn't include in yesterday. This was just a remarkably 991 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:19,560 encouraging passage for me from Paul. 992 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,480 They have this tender moment. I just want to read it out 993 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,480 because we haven't covered it. We talked about it a little bit. 994 00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:27,080 The end of chapter 20, verse 36 through 38. 995 00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,600 When he said all these things, he knelt down and prayed with 996 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,680 them all, and there was much weeping on the part of all. 997 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,520 They embraced Paul and kissed him, being sorrowful most of all 998 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,800 because of the word he had spoken that he they would not 999 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,640 see his face again. And they accompanied him to the 1000 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,960 ship. Sails off there from Jerusalem. 1001 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:53,960 So sweet moments, but not notice that it's not because it it's 1002 00:53:53,960 --> 00:54:00,160 not any sort of despair for him not being involved in the work 1003 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:04,400 of the church anymore. It's it's genuinely they're sad 1004 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,680 to not see his presence again. There's there's no sort of 1005 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:13,120 what's that, What's that joke with a the, the pastor who's 1006 00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:17,520 just announced his resignation. The the the lady St. who's been 1007 00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,800 there forever comes comes out and he just consoles her and 1008 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,560 says, oh, the the next one will be just as just as good as I 1009 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,800 was, don't worry about that. And she said, but they just keep 1010 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:31,760 getting worse, which is an insult to him. 1011 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,800 And also, yeah, that he was worse than the guy that was 1012 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,600 before him, but terrible. But that's, I'm just like, 1013 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,480 that's not, and this isn't, we're not shrouding any sort of 1014 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,320 announcement. We're not going anywhere. 1015 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:46,040 There's there's no parallelism here between Paul's journey and 1016 00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,960 our journey. But even we have, we have a 1017 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,720 couple pastor friends who have who've had to go through this 1018 00:54:52,720 --> 00:54:56,640 recently, even in the past year, saying goodbye to a dearly 1019 00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,160 beloved congregation, congregation that they've seen 1020 00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:06,000 growth and change and health in. But they're they're called on to 1021 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,480 something else. They're called on to the next 1022 00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:13,520 thing to a new body, to a new place that I think at times are 1023 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:19,160 broken, sinful human personhoods can get selfish and and church 1024 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:24,400 has become about a person or pastor more than about Jesus and 1025 00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,000 and we don't see that here. I get that we're relational 1026 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,720 beings. We like we try to have 1027 00:55:29,720 --> 00:55:32,800 relationship with as many of you as as we can. 1028 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,280 We want to have that personal that we think that's just that's 1029 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,320 encouraging. That's how to that's how iron 1030 00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,320 sharpens iron. That's how believers build each 1031 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,560 other up is by knowing each other and doing life with them. 1032 00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,840 But we have a really good picture here of that's there's 1033 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:50,200 not despair because they don't have Paul, and it's because it's 1034 00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,120 because of what he said a couple verses earlier of I commend you 1035 00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:57,080 to the Word of God and to the word of his grace, Commend you 1036 00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:58,840 to God and the word of his grace, which is able to build 1037 00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:00,560 you up and give you the inheritance. 1038 00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,800 That's what matters. I know that you're rooted in the 1039 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,280 word of God. You as a people are rooted in 1040 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,680 His grace. So you're good. 1041 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,840 You're going to be OK. You're going to be. 1042 00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,240 OK. And I'm OK leaving you and you 1043 00:56:13,240 --> 00:56:15,040 should be OK with me going because you have these things. 1044 00:56:15,240 --> 00:56:18,080 Yep. And then all of this, as we, you 1045 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:21,360 know, it feels weird to hear we're wrapping up because we're 1046 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,120 not, We've still got several weeks left. 1047 00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:26,280 But you know, he's triggering what you might call the end game 1048 00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,320 now, you know, because the decision that he's making or the 1049 00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,040 decision that the spirit is moving him into, it's 1050 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:36,160 triggering. The countdown is now on for 1051 00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:37,000 Paul. Yeah. 1052 00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:41,880 So we'll jump back into more of Acts when the last quarter here 1053 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,920 of the book, 6-7 weeks left, I think. 1054 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,120 Yeah. So we'll keep going with that 1055 00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,200 and finish out the the story of Paul in the early church in 1056 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:52,920 Acts. But thanks for hanging out, 1057 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:54,840 continuing the conversation with us here. 1058 00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,960 If you have comments or questions, drop them below the 1059 00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:02,280 show notes here in the podcast feed or on the Facebook page 1060 00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,400 comment section there. You're welcome to engage with us 1061 00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:09,200 either questions on this episode or this sermon or little Ice 1062 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,520 Breakers you'd like us topics you'd like us to share our 1063 00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:16,280 wisdom about for for next week. So much wisdom. 1064 00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,640 Yeah, I feel like we covered the goodbye conversation really 1065 00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:20,880 well. I think we covered all our 1066 00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,960 bases, but maybe not. You can let us know how we 1067 00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,800 didn't. So yeah, until then, have a 1068 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:27,480 blessed week, Church.