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Happy Monday and may the fourth 
be with you. 

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Indeed, Sir, and with you as 
well. 

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I'm Pastor Matt. 
Pastor Chris is here as well. 

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It's a fun day. 
I have a fun. 

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Well, I think it's a fun fact. 
Maybe not everyone thinks it's a

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fun fact. 
Sorry. 

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I want some microphone little 
issues there. 

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I think I'm loud enough now. 
OK, I don't think I've told this

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story on the pod before, but so 
our third child, Eleanor, her 

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original due date was on May 5th
and Star Wars nerd that I am, 

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and it is for me, it's the 
original trilogy and then the 

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prequel trilogy and then 
whatever the light last three 

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were, whatever you want to call 
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them. 
But I was brought up with the 

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original Star Wars trilogy. 
Anyway, she was our third child 

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and we had we didn't really have
a process for naming our kids 

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with the first two. 
Like we just kind of liked 

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Oliver. 
It wasn't a family name, wasn't 

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it? 
Like that was just that was the 

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thing. 
Clara was again just kind of a 

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kind of a cute name. 
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I had just decided I I can't, I 
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like, all right, here's the 
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If she's born on May 4th, I'm 
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We're going to name we're going 
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it's if it's on May the 4th and 
and if she's born any other day,

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she's early, she's late, 
whatever you can name her 

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whatever. 
I have no input at all. 

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You can't name her any name that
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day and she took the deal. 
Ellie was born on May 12th. 

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So that's why I. 
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Leah's or Luke's are in fact 
born on May 4th and parents have

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done? 
That for me, for that I'm not. 

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I'm not really sure. 
We do have one. 

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We have one student in who's 
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birthday is today. 
Their name is not Luke Orlea. 

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Oh, OK. 
Yeah. 

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Wow. 
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were not big Star Wars fans. 
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So anyway, which is fine, but 
that was just a fun fact from my

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life about May the Fourth didn't
happen. 

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And all of you other parents are
probably relieved that my crazy 

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idiosyncrasies related to how 
I'm going to get to name my 

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children. 
You're probably happy that 

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didn't come true for me. 
So yeah. 

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I've got a whole I won't share 
any of them right now, but I've 

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got a whole bunch of stories 
before our son was born about 

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names that I thought were 
perfectly acceptable that my 

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wife and others mocked me for. 
Again, a story. 

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For your son. 
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but just we'll put that, we'll 
put a pin in that one and we'll 

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come back to it another time. 
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So yes, today is May the 4th. 
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officially like international 
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it is just, it is recognized as 
Star Wars Day being May the 4th.

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So I mean, why not? 
Absolutely. 

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Why not? 
Perfect for that. 

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It is. 
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thinking. 
I think we've somewhat had this 

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conversation before. 
I thoroughly appreciate the Star

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original trilogy. 
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like from paper route money or 
allowance or like whatever else,

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$7.00 I can go buy an action 
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like that was that was a deal. 
I had original 3 trilogy. 

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I think I had almost all I still
have an old school like plastic 

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Millennium Falcon that that 
holds like all of the all the 

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characters in it opens up. 
I have a plastic TIE fighter to 

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go. 
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I was deep in the Star Wars as a
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So yeah, I don't love the early 
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much anymore, but it also got me
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sort of prolific epic trilogy's 
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for people. 
What's so what's that's our 

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question today for you. 
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epic? 
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Yeah. 
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trilogy meaning. 
No, right? 

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No. 
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Got to be at least three though.
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Three, what are we doing? 
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see, actually, if there was an 
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my wife might say, and she could
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She might say the My Big Fat 
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Oh, my goodness. 
I'm not even joking. 

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Like, she loves those movies for
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The original is just like a 
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no doubt about it, and so she 
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subsequent film has come out. 
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I wasn't thinking we were going 
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That's trilogy. 
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Future, but I wouldn't and 
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don't know, I wasn't. 
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those are your favorite thing. 
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of like Harry Potter and Lord of
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Star Wars. 
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Are there any Star Trek people? 
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I never made. 
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I don't think you can use that 
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Only Trek can use that word. 
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Sorry. 
It's a funny joke. 

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I don't know. 
I've never. 

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Yeah, you're right. 
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who's a Star Trek fan. 
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like that. 
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Because you can only pick one, 
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Like you can't. 
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your awesome thing. 
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thing, right? 
Like, you have to. 

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You have to pick sides, right? 
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That's my understanding of how 
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I'll tell you what, there's also
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like, I pick neither. 
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sides. 
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by far the most intriguing and 
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storyline. 
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saga that Marvel put out between
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twenty 20s, because we we're 
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have the precise number at least
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stand alone, but they all build 
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So I liken it to this when I was
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really big deal, there was a 
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out of like 13 other 
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They all combined into this one 
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but individually they were still
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And that's how I see that that 
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the Infinity War saga is just, 
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So phases 1-2 and three of the 
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films, 23 from 2008 to 2019. 
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what did they actually include? 
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Hulk that was played by an actor
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but it goes all the way back 
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It's a huge story arc with, 
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characters involved, and somehow
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one big storyline again, even 
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individually on their own as 
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I don't. 
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anything like that in film. 
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chronological order. 
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they and they weave them in and 
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hero. 
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interactions between multiple 
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Even though it's a Thor movie. 
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or we run, we run into other 
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The Hulk from is that Ragnarok? 
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Hulk were both in. 
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storytelling sort of that that 
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it's own that that's just like 
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And others have tried to do it 
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poor job. 
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of movies since the the last one
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in the Infinity war saga at 
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actually so Avengers end game, 
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from home is actually the. 
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The the bookend to that, but the
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even like Black Panther, the 
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So even and Guardians of the 
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They're they're. 
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they're allowed some misses. 
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I've got grace. 
I've got grace for that. 

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Maybe not everybody does, but I 
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What I wonder about Marvel, are 
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Marvel fans who just like, who 
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characters? 
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But just like Hulk, Just like 
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Certainly that exists and Oh 
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And certainly there are people 
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the comic books. 
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we, as a lot of people tend to 
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Potter books. 
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kinds of big things. 
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into someone else's 
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into reality. 
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OK, so where do you sit then on 
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lot of movies or or books or 
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What's the best one? 
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biggest, most complete as far as
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excellence, it's it's got to be 
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Tolkien's Lord of the Rings. 
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Hobbit was of course made into 3
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watching those first 3 movies 
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there. 
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job. 
The original the The Lord of the

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Rings trilogy, Fellowship of the
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King. 
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There's plenty of plenty of 
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missing from those books. 
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masterful like that there's 
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war and the fighting in it 
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There's not that there's not 
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There's no, there's no, there's 
there's no swearing in in those 

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movies like they did. 
They just kept it true to the 

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story and and even that setting.
I'm also a little bit of a 

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sucker for that sort of medieval
I, I prefer that to like the 

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superhero escape. 
I'm much more fascinated by the 

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the swords and bows and arrows 
and that sort of that sort of 

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conflict. 
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I, I like all those films a lot.
And again, Tolkien as a 

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Christian, like he, if you pay 
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of the hot, heavyweight 
theological themes throughout 

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his books. 
I remember drawing a parallel to

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like 8th grade, I went to AI, 
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School in middle school, 8th 
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I remember some discussion about
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Jesus. 
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little bit of a debate with I, I
put out that he's like a wizard.

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And I was honestly thinking like
I was thinking of Gandalf as as 

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that just the powers that he has
his his caring, kind heart for 

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his ability to heal and and all 
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And there's a girl in the class 
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Wizards aren't real. 
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there's certainly Christly 

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characteristics within Gandalf 
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So anyway, we didn't I lost the 
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the descriptors of Jesus. 
Jesus isn't a wizard. 

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That's what I learned in 8th 
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You heard it here, folk. 
You heard it here, folks. 

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Folks, Jesus is not a wizard. 
Put that in. 

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Put that in your Bible and make 
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mistake. 
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yesterday, Michaela Plumley, our
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I've been here for eight years. 
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we have only had one and that 
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students we have in 8th grade. 
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plenty of 8th graders come and 
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in some of the content and even,
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content that they were learning 
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But yet, you know, finishing 
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different bag that's saying that
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consistently over 2 years and 
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So that is a different thing. 
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8th graders that I've interacted
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And it's, it's always a joy to 
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find that weird, but like middle
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Like it's right where I fit. 
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preacher, probably like, Yep, 
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So she which only having one, we
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did it this year. 
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or reflection a a take away in 
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yesterday was being lifelong 
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Christ, as disciples of Christ. 
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weekend as as it were. 
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some of the some of the 
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and and reflect on that too. 
However, Oh gosh. 

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Before we do, I have a bone to 
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OK. 
And just so you know, audience 

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listening, I did not tell Matt 
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him on this topic because 
recently he gave me and all of 

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us what is probably some very 
solid adulting advice. 

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And as my very, very, very long 
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blame on another person in 
another direction, I would like 

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to push my blame for what went 
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else. 
Here's my attempt at that. 

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So recently, one Mr. Matt 
Schweitzer said, you know what? 

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It's really bad for your 
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hitting the snooze button 
because we're, you know, the 

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adult. 
Adults get up when they're 

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supposed to get up. 
It's true. 

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OK, So I trying to be a better 
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I'm going to take Matt's word 
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snooze button anymore. 
I'm just going to turn that 

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thing off and I'm going to get 
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Well, here's here's what 
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Why I walked in the building at 
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like 6:45. 
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Here's what I did all week. 
I'd been like, I'm not going to 

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hit the snooze, turn it off, get
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Well, what happened on Sunday 
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being an adult and was not going
to hit the snooze button. 

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So I didn't, but I fell back 
asleep. 

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Lisa, in kind of a panic, wakes 
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know it's 658? 
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And so like, you know, I get 
ready as fast as I possibly can,

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get in the shower, in and out as
fast as I can. 

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But all that to say, Matt 
Schweitzer, I blame you, Sir. 

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So let me let me see if I'm 
hearing what you let me just. 

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OK. 
OK, say what I heard you say. 

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OK, you you turned off your your
alarm. 

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I did hit stop on the alarm. 
Then you. 

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Then you stayed in bed after you
turned off the alarm, 

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apparently. 
I don't actually told her. 

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You remember the whole thing. 
This this sounds like operator 

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error to me here. 
So I will have, I will have the 

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caveat. 
Sorry, I need to make an 

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addendum to the adulting device 
advice. 

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Yeah, there's a step. 
Turn it. 

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I know I I definitely said this.
Turn off the alarm and get up 

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right away. 
It is definitely how it was not 

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at no point of my advice was to 
turn off the alarm and stay in 

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bed so that you can go back to 
sleep. 

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I must have missed that part. 
I'm being blamed for this. 

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Oh my goodness. 
Yeah, no, if in fact you are 

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going to stay in bed and not 
wake up like an adult, yeah, you

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probably should leave the snooze
on so that you will wake up. 

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But again, so. 
But I was trying so hard. 

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How much I really was. 
OK, so how much were you late 

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all morning? 
Like, did that set your day 

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back? 
Oh it it really sent me on a 

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ride. 
What time was the original alarm

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set for 6:15, 6/15? 
I was. 

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Definitely. 
That's your drop dead moment. 

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That's your like. 
And I heard that too and I said 

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OK, 6:15 I'm going to sleep 
until my drop dead moment 

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because I know I can shower, get
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1/2 an hour for sure. 
And you know, OK. 

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Yeah, so. 
Yesterday was, yes. 

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Yesterday morning was. 
A feeling you had added the get 

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out of bed when the alarm goes 
off to that equation. 

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It would it would have worked. 
You're so close, so it would 

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have worked out for you. 
You're so maybe this week, that 

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one, maybe this. 
Week I'll get. 

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It right your one weekly alarm 
that you're going to set on 

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Sunday. 
Everyone else is shaking their 

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tiny fists. 
Chris, right now, set your alarm

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for more than one day. 
No, I you know it's more than 

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one day. 
I do have to set an alarm to be 

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here by 9. 
AM Oh my I. 

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Do I? 
I can't just naturally wake up 

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in time to be here by 9:00 AM? 
It doesn't happen. 

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Man. 
It's it's. 

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Yeah. 
All right. 

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So I know you don't have like 
small kids anymore, but what was

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there ever a point in your life 
that like the kids just didn't 

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let you sleep anymore at that 
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Because for as long as I've had 
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3 like that's that is the 
longest I can sleep in by my own

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devices. 
Like someone else will interrupt

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my day by 6 O3 like for the past
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Wow, wow. 
Well, here's the thing. 

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By the time, I would say by the 
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know, by by 6 for sure, 
kindergarten age, they would get

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up on the weekends. 
They would get up on their own, 

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get their own cereal, watch 
their own cartoons and then 

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listen. 
I would leisurely stroll out 

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when we woke up, if there was no
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because sometimes they would get
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hear whatever. 
But yeah, for on any given 

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Saturday. 
It was just like, kids will wake

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up and do their thing, they'll 
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Wow. 
Again, I'm a, I'm a product of 

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the 80s where like parents were 
super hands off all the time. 

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You come home when the street 
lights come on, there's no cell 

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phones anything. 
So I I produced kids like that 

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too. 
Fascinating. 

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I I would love to hear from you 
parents out there or even like 

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parents of active little ones 
right now. 

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Like, man, am I? 
Am I crazy? 

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My kids just love me that much 
that they have to see me first 

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thing in the morning to wake me 
up. 

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What a gift. 
That's what it is. 

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What a gift. 
Yeah, what a gift. 

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Anyway, that was the bone I had 
to pick with you that I couldn't

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tell you about until we were on 
air. 

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Bone you had to pick with me, 
but. 

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Well, again, I've got to blame 
somebody else. 

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It can't possibly be me, right? 
Like it has to be somebody 

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else's fault. 
Thank you for that. 

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Thank. 
We'll have to. 

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We'll have to have a fresh 
adulting segment next week for 

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you to trial and error on. 
Yeah, OK. 

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I feel like the adulting 
segments are for me in some 

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weird way. 
Like, hey Chris, by the way, 

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I've been thinking about you and
here's where you have never 

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grown up. 
You are, you are a decent model 

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for me for that, yeah. 
Absolutely. 

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The Sox thing is still getting 
me. 

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Did a bunch of laundry this 
week. 

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Revisited. 
That. 

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I know, I know. 
I did a bunch of laundry this 

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weekend. 
Couldn't get an even number of 

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socks to come out of the washer.
To be fair, I think I think the 

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majority of the people are on 
your side with that. 

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They they think I'm the crazy 
person for my socks being in 

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pairs all the time, which sounds
absurd as I say it off the yeah,

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just off the top of my head. 
But I, I think most of the 

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people are with you on that one.
Thank you. 

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So yeah. 
Feel good. 

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Oh, all right, reflections from 
yesterday, Michaela gave us 

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thoughts about the apostle Paul.
You turned into really the I 

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feel like we tried to keep the 
focus of the burning and we had 

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we had baptism yesterday at the 
first service confirmation. 

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You did a really good job 
articulating of what it's not 

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it's it's not a graduation from 
church going in some ways it's 

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really just the beginning in in 
a lot of the same ways that 

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baptism is just the beginning, 
but it's it really is in 

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relation to baptism. 
It's kind of the other end of 

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that. 
Even that word confirmation. 

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We baptized some infants 
yesterday. 

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Can they articulate the 
particular theology of grace of 

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faith for the faith they have? 
No, but do we also believe that 

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when Jesus says those who do not
have faith, like a little child,

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like that means they can possess
faith even if they can't 

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articulate the insurance and 
outs of of the theology of 

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grace, theology of faith that 
they have. 

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So confirmation even in that 
word is really just OK 

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confirmation of knowing the 
things, right, of of being able 

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to articulate the things 
bestowed upon even even a 

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childlike faith, right. 
So in some ways it's that 

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bookend, but also it's you're 
not done. 

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Well, and The thing is like 
confirmation is an interesting 

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idea in general because can you 
confirm wholeheartedly somebody 

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else's heart position and faith?
No, you cannot. 

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But you can confirm what they 
know, right? 

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And what they're aware. 
Of. 

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And what they've been told and 
what they can then synthesize 

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and bring back out to you as 
like, OK, I really know and I 

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understand these concepts. 
So confirmation is just that. 

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I have no doubt that there are 
students, not necessarily here, 

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but it's just across the board 
who will be confirmed or have 

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been confirmed this spring who 
are not yet believers in Jesus 

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Christ. 
But they have a solid 

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understanding of what the Bible 
says about a lot of different 

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topics. 
And so we are in fact then 

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confirming a base or a 
foundational level of 

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understanding of theology. 
And so that's really what's 

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happening there. 
But as far as our particular 

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student this year, she just did 
such an outstanding job of 

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picking up on this, this big 
important theme that God can 

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redeem anyone and even someone 
like Paul who was jailing and 

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having and supporting Christians
being killed. 

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He then does, as she said, a 
180. 

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God has him do that 180 and 
before you know it, he himself 

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is being imprisoned and 
eventually killed for the very 

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faith that he wants to. 
That's other people. 

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And I just I thought she did a 
masterful job of presenting this

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grander overview of his life, 
but also while giving you enough

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details that you're like, that 
sounds really interesting. 

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I would like to learn more about
that. 

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I saw something, I can't 
remember which. 

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Trevor. 
Trevor Sheets, maybe, Or oh man,

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I can't. 
I can't think of it social media

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influencer theologian that I 
that I saw it from this week, 

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but he put a reflection of Paul 
entered heaven to the cheers of 

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those he martyred. 
Like that's, that's and, and and

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it was this is redemption. 
Like, like that's, that's what, 

450
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:48,720
that's what that was. 
Oh, Shane Pruitt, that's who it 

451
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:49,960
was. 
Shane mentioned that. 

452
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,240
That's amazing. 
Yeah, so I just hadn't, but 

453
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:57,160
you're but she brought out a lot
of that in in, in the 180 of 

454
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:02,040
what that looks like. 
And and there's so much depth in

455
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,400
the character and persona of 
Paul, even like she did a great 

456
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:10,960
job in the time that she had. 
And but it was just really just 

457
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:15,360
scratching the surface of the, 
the persona and influence of 

458
00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:18,280
Paul. 
And when I, I know I keep 

459
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,320
talking about humility week in 
and week out, but like I'm, I'm 

460
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:26,920
more and more convinced that 
that that is one of the chief 

461
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:31,400
characteristics that we have to 
have as a posture of, of both 

462
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:36,320
children of God, men and women 
of God, dependency on, on God, 

463
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:41,480
on his word, even this lifelong 
learner like the that idea, 

464
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,280
which of which of course bears 
out. 

465
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,080
And you, you articulated that 
yesterday. 

466
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,440
We have to have the posture of 
humility and I, I don't know, I,

467
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,400
I and you, you even said, well, 
this is you don't know how the 

468
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:59,480
how the machinations of this 
bread and wine being the blood 

469
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,080
and body of Jesus Christ. 
Like, I don't know. 

470
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,880
I'm still coming to a deeper 
understanding of that. 

471
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,720
And we, and there are things 
that's also part of the the 

472
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,360
wondrous mystery that that Paul 
uses for various things. 

473
00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:15,640
There's some things that we're 
not going to completely know 

474
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,360
this side of heaven and we have 
to be comfortable in that 

475
00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:20,440
mystery. 
But that posture of humility 

476
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,720
that that I don't know, or I or 
I haven't learned that yet, or I

477
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,160
or I need to learn that I need 
to grow in that. 

478
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,920
That all stems out from a 
posture of of humility, of of 

479
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,480
setting aside our pride. 
I've talked about it, I think 

480
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,720
fairly often enough that but 
this sense of humility, this 

481
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,560
sense of and and spelled it out 
more clearly as a lifelong 

482
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:45,840
learner yesterday, but more so 
again, can we, can we receive 

483
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:50,240
critique? 
Can we receive feedback that 

484
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:55,000
maybe in some way says you're 
doing this incorrectly or you 

485
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,760
could be better if can we 
receive that? 

486
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,840
The only people who can receive 
those kinds of things are in 

487
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,280
fact humble people who don't 
think that I have all the 

488
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,240
answers and I always do it the 
right way. 

489
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,960
You cannot. 
I mean, the Bible lists over and

490
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,040
over again the things that God 
quote hates. 

491
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,320
Pride is always at the top of 
the list. 

492
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,200
Always. 
It takes a humble person to in 

493
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,600
fact receive the gospel because 
you have to know your deep need 

494
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,960
in order to receive Jesus as He 
wants to give himself away. 

495
00:28:30,120 --> 00:28:34,680
Yeah, and the I, I bring up the 
rich young ruler a lot because I

496
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,840
think it's a really pointed 
example of that. 

497
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:42,240
But this was a man who felt that
he asked Jesus a question, 

498
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,320
right? 
He What must I do to inherit 

499
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,560
eternal life? 
He wanted the answer. 

500
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,880
He wanted truth. 
And Jesus gave him truth. 

501
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,480
And he decided it wasn't for 
him. 

502
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,320
That wasn't that wasn't the 
truth he was looking for. 

503
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:08,840
So excuse me, Jesus, sell, sell 
all your things, sell everything

504
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:13,080
you have and follow me. 
That's that was the answer to 

505
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,960
what must I do to inherit 
eternal life? 

506
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,720
Because where was his identity 
caught up in where, where was 

507
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,840
his worth caught it. 
He was putting these things 

508
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,360
before Jesus and it was set that
aside. 

509
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,080
Put me first and follow me. 
That's not what he wanted to 

510
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,640
hear. 
So he wasn't willing to, to have

511
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:35,760
that posture of, of humility, of
setting aside his pride. 

512
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,160
He wanted to hear, Nope, you've 
kept the law. 

513
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,320
You've built yourself a nice 
little nest egg here on earth. 

514
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,480
And you say that you love me. 
That's good enough. 

515
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,960
And that's that's not how grace 
by faith works. 

516
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,120
Every law we break has first and
foremost to do with breaking the

517
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,960
First Law, which is to have no 
other gods before me. 

518
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,360
Love me with all your heart, all
your mind, all your soul, your 

519
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,960
strength. 
But every other law we break, 

520
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:08,280
it's it, it, it didn't start 
with that other law, It started 

521
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,960
with breaking the first one. 
Because we have not put God 

522
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,840
first. 
And so therefore we make selfish

523
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,280
decisions and it all, it all 
comes back to that very, very 

524
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,320
first one. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

525
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,320
I think everything we have is a 
yeah. 

526
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:25,160
It is making an idol of sorts of
something, whatever, whatever. 

527
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,680
We were placing something. 
Have no other gods before me. 

528
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,320
No, we putting something, even 
if it's our own selfishness, 

529
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:37,440
before, before God. 
So yeah, Speaking of breaking 

530
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,800
you. 
Oh no. 

531
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,480
It was it was just so funny 
because I didn't interject. 

532
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,040
I didn't and I don't know if 
anyone even I don't know if 

533
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,960
anyone else even blinked or 
noticed in the second service 

534
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,000
yesterday. 
And it's so tricky with these 

535
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,160
things like you, you still use 
the little ministerial acts 

536
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,160
book. 
And I, I used it for baptism 

537
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,040
because there's a, there's a lot
of readings for baptism and 

538
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:03,440
they're all good communion. 
I've just heard it a lot more 

539
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,320
often. 
I, I just know the wrote words 

540
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,600
of institution is, is the big 
theological words that they're, 

541
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,200
that they're called for, for 
communion. 

542
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,920
But we do say them a lot and 
they are, and they are kind of 

543
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,480
wrote during the second service.
You said, you said he took the 

544
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,560
cup for both times instead 
instead of instead of he took 

545
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,240
he, you said Jesus Christ on the
night he was betrayed, he took 

546
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,720
the cup and when he had broke 
it, he gave it. 

547
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,240
Then I, I think I kept, I don't 
think I told my face back there,

548
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,760
but like in my mind, I was just 
picturing you just just smashing

549
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:42,200
the Holy Grail on the ground, 
which is maybe irreverent, but I

550
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,480
just it, it was funny. 
And then you again, we just went

551
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,360
on and take it, take and eat. 
Then you did that and then you 

552
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:52,080
said and then he took the cup 
again and then I have the 

553
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,680
picture of, oh, the cup's back 
together now. 

554
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,320
I was like. 
Well, if anybody can put it back

555
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,240
together after smashing it, it's
Jesus. 

556
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,720
So yes, I will absolutely 
receive that. 

557
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,920
Fun little preacher snafu 
yesterday. 

558
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,720
But it is, you know, it's for 
me, it's a mildly entertaining 

559
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,040
imaginary idea that Jesus would 
be hanging out with the 

560
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,240
disciples. 
And he, like, smashes the cup, 

561
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,360
you know, And, well, 
theologically, that doesn't 

562
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:19,440
work. 
It doesn't check out. 

563
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,920
It doesn't check out. 
But it's a funny visual, I 

564
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:22,400
guess. 
Yeah. 

565
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,760
So anyway, Grace, Grace for that
too. 

566
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:29,000
We still, we still took 
communion as intended. 

567
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,520
And yeah, I think we got that. 
I think we got the gist. 

568
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,160
I often have to lean on the fact
that God has already calculated 

569
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,680
all of my misgivings when He 
decided to use me in His 

570
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,200
mission. 
So yeah, you know, you, you try 

571
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,240
and get better every day, every 
time out, but you also have to 

572
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,040
give yourself grace knowing that
that's what Jesus does for you. 

573
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,440
So appreciate the feedback on 
that one, though like I will 

574
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,400
probably slow down a little bit 
next time and make sure that I 

575
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,040
get that reading correct. 
Have you ever? 

576
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,920
I used to think about this all 
the time when I was a kid. 

577
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:07,200
I've never seen like it's had to
have happened somewhere, I would

578
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,480
think, but I've, I've never seen
like communion trays spill or 

579
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:16,120
I've never seen like disaster 
during communion ever. 

580
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,280
I don't, I don't know. 
I don't actually, I haven't 

581
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,240
looked for it on social media 
because I just don't whatever. 

582
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,200
I, I don't need to see it. 
But I've never witnessed it in 

583
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,680
person, even when I was a kid. 
Like I'd be holding the cup 

584
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,000
waiting for like everyone to 
receive their stuff. 

585
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:32,040
And I'd like, I'd start to tip 
it to see if like to see if it 

586
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:37,040
was possible for, for the juice 
to pour, but then I'd get scared

587
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,880
I'd get to the edge where it 
like it should definitely pour 

588
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,200
out and then I'd just put it 
right back up. 

589
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,720
But I don't know when I, that's 
a weird thing for me to share, 

590
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,000
but it when I, when I was a kid,
I was like, there's this, 

591
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,800
there's this powerful aura 
around communion where like you 

592
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,000
can't spill the blood and body 
of Jesus like that. 

593
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,240
Just disaster can't happen in 
this time. 

594
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,360
So. 
Well, there's an unnamed 

595
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,440
seminarian who absolutely did 
that because. 

596
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,560
I was like, you know? 
Oh wow, yes, and was. 

597
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,360
It a tray. 
Or was it just like I was the 

598
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:11,639
whole tray for the whole church?
He was coming down the stage 

599
00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:16,840
stairs with them and tripped and
it all went, All of it. 

600
00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:19,600
No. 
Yeah, and he was in seminary and

601
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,199
I can't imagine how he felt 
about that. 

602
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,960
But yeah, that had to have been 
a pretty humiliating. 

603
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,199
I don't even. 
How do you recover from that? 

604
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,600
Did they know? 
Did they go and refill the cups 

605
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,560
with all the like? 
Or do you just be like, we're 

606
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,679
not taking communion today, I 
guess. 

607
00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:40,080
I don't think you can do that. 
I I think you have to. 

608
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,120
Just you got to follow well. 
We're going to take a 10 minute 

609
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:43,960
pause and we're. 
Going to get these. 

610
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,280
Refilled And he's not going to 
walk down from the stage with 

611
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,080
them anymore. 
We're going to have them in a 

612
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,199
different position where that 
cannot happen. 

613
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:58,800
Oh man, I know, I know. 
That's just, it felt so, so bad 

614
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,280
for him. 
I was just like, this is this is

615
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,480
a bad moment. 
Oh my. 

616
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,560
OK, well that solved my 
curiosity. 

617
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:08,480
It has happened. 
Great. 

618
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,720
Never here. 
Let's pray that never happens. 

619
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,480
So you brought up in some of the
discussion questions for small 

620
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:24,560
groups, life groups. 
You brought up honing in on this

621
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,280
idea of of lifelong learning. 
We had some passages from 

622
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,360
Proverbs and your Psalm 92 
passage again, the the stay 

623
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,280
sappy sort of thing. 
And that's it was that was that 

624
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,480
shout out to Sharon Rush. 
That sure is I. 

625
00:35:37,720 --> 00:35:41,240
Mean our Thursday Bible study, 
we were going through several 

626
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:46,040
passages that you just mentioned
on God always wanting us to grow

627
00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:48,680
deeper and wider and stretch out
into His Word. 

628
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,480
And yeah, we get to Psalm 92, 
verse 14, and Sharon just, she 

629
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,120
just crushed it. 
She just A, she's an excellent 

630
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:01,200
theologian, but B, this sappy 
part, she's like, yeah, God 

631
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,920
wants us to be sappy. 
And I was, and she knew what she

632
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,160
did in. 
That moment, she knew. 

633
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,760
She gave me ammunition for 
Sunday and I took it. 

634
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,160
I took the bait. 
No, I thought, I thought that 

635
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,040
was a sticky, a sticky thought. 
Ha ha. 

636
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,440
Can I say that? 
Sticky take away? 

637
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:19,600
You're welcome. 
Really. 

638
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,080
You're welcome. 
OK I didn't see that coming from

639
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,160
you right now. 
Yep, still continue to surprise 

640
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,720
me after like 4 years. 
Yep, you're welcome. 

641
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,760
But so so we had talked about 
that and then the passage second

642
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,800
Timothy chapter 3 most 
specifically, like verses 14 

643
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,200
through 17. 
That's all Scripture is God 

644
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,560
breathed and useful for 
teaching, rebuking, correcting 

645
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,480
and and training and 
righteousness, which is really 

646
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:51,480
that lifelong learner attitude 
is also reflective of of a 

647
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,960
process of sanctification of of 
a training in righteousness. 

648
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,120
Like you pair it you pair it 
with that passage and on earth. 

649
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,920
We've never arrived in 
righteousness, right? 

650
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:08,000
Like we we are still continually
being trained in righteousness 

651
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,840
on earth, right. 
So I, I, I just liked your yeah,

652
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,720
the umbrella of, of passages 
that you put into this, this 

653
00:37:15,720 --> 00:37:18,840
lifelong learner idea. 
One of the reflections that came

654
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:24,280
from our life group last night 
was even even from some of those

655
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,040
passages. 
But thinking how Jesus taught in

656
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:33,040
parables, some of the some of 
these stories from the Old 

657
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,200
Testament, I say stories, but 
they're, I mean real life, real 

658
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,840
life events. 
But even thinking about maybe 

659
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:45,520
some of the big ones, Jericho, 
the ark, even what we're talking

660
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:52,120
about a passage from from 
Solomon this Sunday, the Abraham

661
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,320
sacrificing Isaac on the 
mountain. 

662
00:37:55,440 --> 00:38:01,840
None of those really have like 
projected like direct 

663
00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:05,520
directives. 
I, I said direct directives, but

664
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,400
like direct directive commands 
in them. 

665
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,360
Like what's, what's the lesson 
from the lesson from Abraham and

666
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,720
Isaac going up the mountain is 
not don't sacrifice your child, 

667
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,560
right? 
Like that's, that's not obvious.

668
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:24,280
Like we know that that seemed 
interesting for God to even 

669
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,000
command Abraham to do that in 
the 1st place, right? 

670
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:34,480
But but the test was what what 
Abraham was being taught how to 

671
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:40,640
think or or what God values 
right in that there's no part of

672
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,600
that story in which God did not 
value human life. 

673
00:38:45,240 --> 00:38:51,840
But God does value what he does 
value is obedience right to even

674
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,680
potentially an unknown outcome. 
Abraham didn't know how that was

675
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,480
going to go out. 
He just know that God said it. 

676
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:02,440
And when God says move, you move
and and you and you do the thing

677
00:39:02,720 --> 00:39:05,040
right. 
So, so many of these teaching 

678
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,720
Jesus parables or these Old 
Testament stories, I just had 

679
00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:12,960
the reflection that so much of 
them are not even necessarily 

680
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,160
what to think or even what to 
do. 

681
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,960
They are illustrative though of 
God's character and and how we 

682
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,560
should think about things or how
we should think about doing 

683
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,000
things. 
Because there's so many 

684
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,280
individual scenarios that we 
have in our life that are not 

685
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,800
there's no prescription for them
in the Bible, right? 

686
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:40,000
There's not a direct what do I 
how do I handle the scenario of 

687
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:46,200
losing my job right? 
Like there there's not there's 

688
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:50,600
not a specific scriptural 
directive in that, but there are

689
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,080
based on so say the sermon on 
the map. 

690
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:57,960
Why? 
Why do the birds of the air or 

691
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,520
the grass of the fields? 
But they don't, They don't know.

692
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,400
Where, where the seed comes from
or when or when the water rain. 

693
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,160
Yet your father provides for 
them. 

694
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:11,560
How much more than will he put? 
Like it doesn't tell you exactly

695
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,920
what to do and that it tells you
how to think about that scenario

696
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,280
though, right? 
And as lifelong learners, I 

697
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,400
think that's the depth of 
scripture for us, that there's 

698
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:26,480
this ongoing how to think about 
how we encounter the things in 

699
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,160
this life. 
And I think that's why Scripture

700
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,320
can be fresh in different 
seasons of our life too, because

701
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,960
we have a deeper understanding 
of the character of God. 

702
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:41,080
That is perfectly well said. 
To add to that a little bit 

703
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:46,000
thinking backwards for me within
my life, one of the things that 

704
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:50,880
was great about being an art 
teacher rather than a core 

705
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:57,640
content teacher was the fact 
that I was able to be in a space

706
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,760
and help kids be in a space 
where it wasn't so much about 

707
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,160
just the outcome. 
It was about the process, how 

708
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,240
you got there and how you 
understood that process and how 

709
00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:11,880
you worked with the materials or
how you manipulated things in 

710
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,000
order to get the job done. 
Because again, I think on 

711
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,880
certain things, and I'm not 
knocking math, it's math is 

712
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,920
created by God. 
As much as I don't like it 

713
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,760
sometimes, but it's a it's 
order, right? 

714
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,320
It's taking chaos and putting it
back into order. 

715
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:31,920
But in particular math, for 
example, it gives you like you 

716
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,240
have to get to this end in order
to be correct, you have to get 

717
00:41:35,240 --> 00:41:37,880
to this end. 
So it's very results based, 

718
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,600
whereas I felt incredibly 
fortunate during my teaching 

719
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:47,680
career that I was not so much on
a bottom line results based way 

720
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,160
of education for the students I 
worked with. 

721
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,320
I was more on the how then do 
you understand this? 

722
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,520
How then do you learn? 
How then do you synthesize all 

723
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,840
these things? 
And maybe one of the best things

724
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,960
that we can do for ourselves as 
learners is not just memorize 

725
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,680
facts and dates and those kinds 
of things. 

726
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,440
That's all great. 
There's nothing wrong with that,

727
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,840
but how do I learn? 
How do I understand, how do I, 

728
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,560
you know, all these kinds of 
things which actually dive us 

729
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:17,640
much deeper into an intellectual
pursuit than just knowing facts 

730
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,040
and dates. 
So again, nothing against people

731
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,520
who memorize that kind of stuff.
And and I think all that's 

732
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:28,120
wonderful, but how do we think 
how through the parables, as you

733
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,640
mentioned, really good job of 
mentioning that. 

734
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:35,840
How does Jesus teach us how to 
think, how to process, how to 

735
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,560
create wisdom? 
Because wisdom is really what do

736
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:43,680
I do with the information in 
front of me when sometimes it 

737
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,440
feels Gray? 
The example that you just gave, 

738
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,000
how do I do this? 
How do I proceed with wisdom? 

739
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,560
Well, I can do that better if I 
know how to think. 

740
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,000
But how do I learn how to think?
Well, I have to not just 

741
00:42:57,240 --> 00:43:00,200
memorize addresses in the Bible.
I need to. 

742
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:04,480
I need to understand how God's 
character works on a grander 

743
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,280
scale. 
I need to understand how 

744
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,600
theology and the total narrative
of the Bible works on a grander 

745
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,000
scale. 
And I can't do that just through

746
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,520
memorizing individual passages. 
I have to do that through 

747
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,120
understanding how God thinks. 
Yeah, I even think of the 

748
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,360
parable of the parable of the 
sower specifically. 

749
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,720
The seed fell in such a variety 
of places, right? 

750
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:32,360
And obviously some in some of 
the places it was destined not 

751
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,120
to thrive, right? 
It it wasn't the the ground was 

752
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,120
not fertile for for that seed to
sprout. 

753
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:44,360
Is the point of that parable. 
Is the directive from that 

754
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,280
parable to only sow seed where 
there is fertile ground? 

755
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:54,560
No, right. 
The the directive is is to sow 

756
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,600
seed, right? 
If there isn't, if there even is

757
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,480
a directive, but but within 
that, the greater the greater 

758
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:07,000
how to think is God's word goes 
forth and it does not return 

759
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,600
void right. 
That's because if all of 

760
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,480
scripture relates to and backs 
up, backs up itself, like that's

761
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,920
the, the more important thing is
the word of God going forth, 

762
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:20,400
because even in those seemingly 
hopeless places or seemingly in 

763
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,440
infertile places or, or, or 
rough ground or whatever it 

764
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,880
might be, God's word is more 
powerful than that. 

765
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:31,480
Then the point is to go. 
The point is to preach and teach

766
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:37,800
so that they can hear right. 
So, yeah, I just, that's struck 

767
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,120
me like a ton of bricks 
yesterday. 

768
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:43,800
And in life group the 'cause I 
think, I think we want, we so 

769
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,280
want. 
And kids are really good at that

770
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:47,640
too. 
My, my kids, especially right 

771
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,760
now are like, well, what does, 
what does the Bible say about 

772
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:50,360
this? 
What? 

773
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:55,680
What does the Bible say about 
what job I'm supposed to have 

774
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,000
when I grow up? 
Woof. 

775
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:04,680
Like doesn't does The Bible will
not directly tell you what job 

776
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,160
you are supposed to have. 
That answer is not in there is 

777
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:08,840
not. 
And it won't tell you the 

778
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,240
individual you're supposed to 
marry or any of those kinds of 

779
00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:14,320
things that are huge life 
decisions. 

780
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,480
They are, they alter everything 
for the rest of our lives when 

781
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:18,880
we take on certain things. 
But. 

782
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,040
It is going to tell you how to 
think about how you should make 

783
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,120
those decisions, right? 
Absolutely. 

784
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:28,760
It gives it again, as Christians
and how God is trying to train 

785
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,800
us to think is we have to do 
both. 

786
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,040
And what I mean by that is I 
have to be able to see the 

787
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,160
entire forest. 
So I have to understand God's 

788
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:37,880
character and his greater 
narrative. 

789
00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:40,880
It is greater purposes. 
But I also have to get right 

790
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,640
down on the ground of the forest
and be able to see the trees and

791
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:47,920
the individual leaves because in
those tree and leaf moments, 

792
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,680
that's when I'm supposed to 
activate the wisdom I've gained 

793
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,320
from that greater. 
I can see the whole forest 

794
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,880
narrative. 
And so it is both and, and. 

795
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,280
But we have to, we have to be 
clear thinkers. 

796
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,640
We have to know how then we are 
supposed to learn and how then 

797
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,040
we are supposed to process 
before we can do both of those 

798
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,440
things. 
And I think we've all met people

799
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,440
who do one or the other far more
often. 

800
00:46:09,720 --> 00:46:13,000
We get the big thinkers, the 
10,000 foot people who they've 

801
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:17,240
got these amazing ideas and 
sure, if you can get the details

802
00:46:17,240 --> 00:46:20,520
right, it will, it will work out
and it'll be beautiful. 

803
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,400
But they're not detail people. 
They, they can't give you the 

804
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,520
schematics of how it actually 
works. 

805
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,560
But then we get the high detail 
people who they can't see the 

806
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,720
end game, and they're so focused
on the right now and the right 

807
00:46:32,720 --> 00:46:36,000
here that they can't see beyond 
what they're doing in this 

808
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,000
moment. 
God calls us to continuously 

809
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:44,240
learn so that we can do both. 
Yes, that's it. 

810
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:49,160
Well said. 
So yeah, that was confirmation 

811
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,240
Sunday in a in a nutshell. 
Thanks to Michaela for a. 

812
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,880
Wonderful job. 
Sharing her, sharing her heart 

813
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,000
and sharing her thoughts with 
us. 

814
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,640
Yeah, looking forward to look 
forward to all the student 

815
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:02,280
ministries. 
Really. 

816
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,600
It's really just a blessing to 
be able to pass this on and be 

817
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,960
able to be a part of a ministry 
that's pouring back into the 

818
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,840
next generation and and students
here. 

819
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,880
And glad you all got to see that
and experience that a little bit

820
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,880
yesterday, as we do each year in
Confirmation Sunday. 

821
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,640
But yeah, that's what we've got.
A couple things coming up. 

822
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,120
Mother's Day is this Sunday, 
guys or kids, if you need a 

823
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,480
reminder for that. 
That is this Sunday, Mother's 

824
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,800
Day. 
I already bought. 

825
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:31,440
I already bought my mom's. 
Gifts. 

826
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,560
I already bought my mom's gifts.
OK, you're not too late. 

827
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:38,400
No, you, you got, you got some 
time week after that is 

828
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,000
graduation weekend, at least 
here in DeWitt honoring our 

829
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:46,320
graduating seniors at the first 
service on the 17th May 17th 

830
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,720
that week. 
And then we're spending four 

831
00:47:48,720 --> 00:47:51,680
weeks in Philippians. 
We're going to kind of Sprint 

832
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,480
through the four chapter book of
Philippians, but it'll be good 

833
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,240
last two weeks of May and the 
first two weeks of June. 

834
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,800
Which by the way, if you want to
preview on that Philippians 

835
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:06,160
series, right now we are as a 
Church in the Bible app, doing a

836
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,120
devotional through the book of 
Philippians and the devotionals 

837
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,440
prior to the text that is for 
that day. 

838
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,480
They're really well thought out,
they're really well done, 

839
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,800
they're applicable. 
And so if you want to jump on 

840
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,880
the Bible app, you can most 
certainly do that and you can 

841
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,560
get a preview of the Philippian 
series. 

842
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,880
Yep, wanted to get you all 
through all of all of the 

843
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,000
scripture of the four chapters 
of Philippians before we get to 

844
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,360
that sermon series. 
I think that does run out like 

845
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,840
the weekend before the series 
starts. 

846
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,960
So which is great, us trying to 
coordinate things. 

847
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,240
People will have a good solid 
foundation there. 

848
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:44,360
They've learned before we go 
even deeper and learn even more.

849
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,760
So see, we just keep on going. 
Keep on going. 

850
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,560
And then we're spending, we're 
spending all summer in the 

851
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,440
Creed, which we heard a lot of 
Creed yesterday. 

852
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,480
I know not like the band Creed 
but. 

853
00:48:54,240 --> 00:48:57,080
I immediately thought of. 
That that's we're just going to 

854
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:58,960
say that for the next 4 weeks, 
we're going to say we're going 

855
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,160
to be we're going to be in the 
creed a lot for the summer and 

856
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,280
you're just going to play Chris 
is going to get there and play 

857
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,480
a. 
Different Creed song every week.

858
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,680
People will not enjoy that sense
of humor after a while. 

859
00:49:10,240 --> 00:49:11,440
Yeah, that's not what it's going
to be. 

860
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,080
We're going to be in the 
Apostles Creed to going through 

861
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,480
the different stanzas and 
intentions and deeper meaning. 

862
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,720
Why? 
Why it's valuable that we 

863
00:49:20,240 --> 00:49:24,000
confess these things as as part 
of our faith, why the Apostles 

864
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,160
Creed is an instrumental part of
that. 

865
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,280
So that's what's coming up in 
the sermon series here. 

866
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,520
Let us know what your favorite 
epic series is. 

867
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,240
We got one, one for Lord of the 
Rings and one for the MCU 

868
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:41,400
Avengers Infinity War universe. 
What else do you got out there? 

869
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,920
Maybe maybe this is I'm really 
interested to see which 

870
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,520
trifectas or trilogies come out 
of the woodworks for that. 

871
00:49:49,720 --> 00:49:53,160
So anyway, thanks for hanging 
with us and continuing the 

872
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,920
conversation on lifelong 
learners here on the ERC 

873
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,200
Leftovers podcast. 
Privilege to be a part of this 

874
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:00,920
Community Church. 
Have a blessed week.

