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Happy Monday, Happy New Year. 
Oh my gosh, here we are first. 

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Show yeah, first ERC leftovers 
of 2026. 

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We've been off for a few weeks. 
Thanks for being patient with 

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us. 
Missing your Monday morning, 

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well, Monday afternoon podcast, 
but there you go. 

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Hey, first time we've taken a 
little break since starting this

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thing and. 
Yeah, I think we went like 

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almost 10 months straight, which
was, yeah, that's a pretty good 

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start. 
Right. 

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Yeah. 
You don't usually take time off 

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from a weekly podcast to get 
that, but here we are. 

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You know what? 
It's just something extra that 

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we do when we're around and I've
been gone. 

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Honestly, it's my fault. 
I I was. 

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You're going to take the blame. 
For I'll own it. 

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I'll own it, yeah. 
Well, I I didn't want to say 

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that, but you know, it's fine. 
I'll say it. 

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So yeah, no, I had some. 
I had some time off for a break.

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We went and did Christmas up in 
Wisconsin for a few days. 

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But honestly, just we came back 
and did kind of the staycation 

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thing. 
Just laid low for a week and 

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hung out at home time with the 
kids, which we don't always get.

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We don't always really just take
down time as a family. 

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And that was the weekend. 
New Year's, Emily's birthday is 

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New Year's Day. 
You had a birthday this week. 

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Oh yeah, yeah, that did happen. 
So yeah, it was, I don't know, 

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break was good and anything, 
anything crazy for you guys? 

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No, I mean, it was, it was great
being able to spend time with, 

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you know, family and stuff. 
And and again, as you kind of 

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noted, I, I think the busyness 
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especially leading up to a major
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be a lot. 
But if you can find moments to 

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kind of pause and embrace, you 
know, what's right in front of 

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you and not not be racing to the
next thing, like it can be 

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incredibly beneficial. 
And so I, I think my family got 

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to feel that a little bit, which
was really nice. 

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And yeah, you know, a funny New 
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one of the more chill things 
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which is like, we just went 
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And it's funny at bowling 
alleys, you know, if you happen 

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to be there at midnight on New 
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even paying attention to the 
time in the in the entire 

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bowling alley. 
We're the only group within 20 

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something lanes that like 
actually stopped and like was 

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doing the countdown. 
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know, we started at like 1015 
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By the time we got down to about
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people were catching on like, 
oh, oh, it's about to happen. 

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For like central time, midnight 
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Central. 
Time I didn't make it past the 

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East Coast. 
We, we did the ball drop at 

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11:00 when, when East Coast 
Times Square did the did the 

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ball and that was it. 
And that was there we go. 

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Yep, it's the new year in 
America and good enough time for

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bed. 
There you go. 

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Yeah. 
You know what? 

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You bring that up. 
I've never thought about that 

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before. 
Like it's the new year in 

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America. 
Yeah, I never looked at it that 

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way. 
I always I've always done 

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Central Standard. 
Time where you're at? 

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Yeah. 
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Well, I grew up on the East. 
I've. 

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I've lived on the East Coast. 
So, like there was a time in my 

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life where that was good enough,
didn't it? 

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In in my present East Coast was 
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I like that. 
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things that comes about with the
holidays, and I think it's been 

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brought out maybe by me a number
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like the amount of food and the 
sweets and all the good things 

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that we tend to consume over, 
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kind of time. 
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because, you know, we were just 
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and, you know, we're setting up 
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days and you're like, Oh, well, 
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doing lunch. 
I'm in the, I'm in the beginning

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of a fast. 
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intriguing because recently it's
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I've always known, hey, man, if,
if God prescribes fasting in the

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Bible as something that, you 
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and otherwise, what are we 
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And then recently an article 
popped up in my news feed about 

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a Nobel Peace, not Peace Prize, 
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back in 2016 who won a Nobel 
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fasting and the benefits of it 
for for us in our bodies. 

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Sure. 
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a lot of scientific words for 
autophagy is the like cellular 

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cleanup kind of getting rid of 
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And you often have to go pretty 
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to actually trigger some of 
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But you, you reach ketosis. 
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If you've heard that it's like 
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body of, I mean, you can do 
ketosis, even just depriving 

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your body of, of carbs. 
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If you have a protein or fat 
heavy diet, you can still reach 

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ketosis, which is, which is fat 
burning. 

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But the added spiritual element 
of it is just is the mental 

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discipline like God doesn't set 
us up to fast and just be like, 

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OK, Yep, go fast and suffer for 
however long a period of time 

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you decided to make yourself 
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Like that's, that's supposed to 
be time in, in reflection and 

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and quiet and intentionality 
really with with what God has 

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has blessed us with or, or the 
even the relationship we have 

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with God. 
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fasting too. 
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can't, you can, you can go about
it with just water and nothing 

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else. 
I take like salt electrolyte 

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packets as well. 
Again, they're not anything to 

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like trigger insulin or to yeah 
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state. 
But it is some things that just 

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kind of keep your body not 
hating itself more than it 

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should. 
That's a good strategy. 

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I like that. 
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So I'm going to give you the the
Chris Hartley version of this, 

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you know, great science, which 
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recently was OK, So when a 
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remember when it actually really
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but what happens inside of our 
bodies, and this is so cool that

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God designed it this way. 
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bodies is that those kind of 
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on that create disease, that 
create problems within our 

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bodies. 
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that new cells are formed and 
they literally eat or destroy 

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those old 6 cells. 
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regularly fasting, what would 
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regenerate at better rates, 
creating an incredible amount of

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longevity. 
So one of the articles I was 

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reading, it was about the Blue 
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If you don't know what the Blue 
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of the Earth where there has 
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longer life spans. 
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know, scientists and 
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they've kind of been looking at 
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they pulling this thing off? 
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Blue Zone is they're living 
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Whereas like, yeah, in the West 
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that consistently. 
Some people do it, but as a 

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whole, we we're not doing it. 
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they found in the Blue Zone is 
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across couple probably different
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regularly fasting. 
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science of fasting that we're 
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eating the bad cells, it's 
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create all sorts of problems for
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these issues. 
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doing that now they're 
connecting all these things in 

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the Blue Zone, like longevity of
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And I just found that incredibly
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Yeah, and most of the like, I 
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fasting, which can be a good 
dietary discipline just to 

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control your calorie intake 
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But most of these like cellular 
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till like the 2448 hour, Martin.
And even 72 hours is really kind

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of that autophagy cellular 
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That's where typical like 
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replacement is kind of three to 
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So by doing that with a clean 
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that's, that's when that really 
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yeah, kind of going to a clean 
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So yeah, 72 hours, just kind of 
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after. 
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and whatever and not really not 
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break. 
Yeah, time to get back to it. 

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So let me ask you one question 
before we kind of close the book

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on fasting. 
I think one of the problems that

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I have with it, I love the more 
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anything, even with all the 
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there more than anything, I 
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incredibly important in fasting.
In fact, it should be the reason

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why we do it, because otherwise 
you can create potentially all 

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sorts of eating disorders for 
yourself and you know, whatever 

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that can come with that. 
But if you focus on the 

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spiritual aspect of it and say, 
man, this is my time to lean 

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solely on God to, to be in 
prayer intentionally more often,

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maybe during mealtimes and that 
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So here's my thing. 
Here's where I have trouble with

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fasting. 
It's the social aspect. 

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So like, what do you do? 
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going to be in a fast for maybe 
a number of days, perhaps, what 

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do you do during mealtimes? 
How does that work for you? 

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Yeah, I don't like that's 
whatever I can, I can sit with 

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someone. 
Like we were talking about we 

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have study days this week, 
Tuesday, Wednesday, working on 

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sermon prep and things and we 
usually figure out what we're 

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going to do for lunch together. 
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around, I can drink other I I 
will usually drink like coffee 

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on a fast too. 
It's also just kind of an 

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appetite suppressant and and 
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So yeah, I'll have whatever, 
I'll have my bottle of water and

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cup of coffee and I can still 
just sit around people eating 

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food even if I'm even if I'm 
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And that's really like during a 
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gotta keep water around you to 
keep you full. 

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Like it's just that's how you 
fight hunger in that. 

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So, but I mean, also the 
spiritual aspect, like if you're

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thinking about, if you're 
thinking about how hungry you 

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are, that's not that's not very 
helpful for a fast. 

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If you're thinking about the 
right things during a fast, if 

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you're actually reflecting or or
focusing on our true sustainer, 

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our our spiritual yeah, soul 
sustainer in, in fasting, that 

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makes it more tolerable too. 
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By the way, last thing I'll say 
about this, I love it when 

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science finally catches up with 
the Bible. 

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So God has prescribed this, this
fasting for thousands of years. 

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And all of a sudden, you know, 
in our modern world, we're like,

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Oh, by the way, did you know 
this is so good for you? 

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And it, you know, stops disease 
and all this stuff. 

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And it's like, hey, look, 
science finally caught up with 

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the Bible now. 
And that's the the other 

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interesting thing about the 
Bible is God prescribes certain 

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things or certain ways that we 
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And he doesn't necessarily like 
God in the Bible does not tell 

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you, tell us the cellular reason
why fasting, why he programmed 

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that for us. 
Obviously he's aware of that and

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he built that into our DNA, but 
he doesn't describe, you know, 

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God doesn't describe that in the
Bible. 

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He's just asking us to be 
faithful to the practice. 

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And then lo and behold, modern 
day, we realize, oh, that that's

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one of the reasons why God has 
prescribed this to us beyond 

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even a spiritual thing. 
Like he wants us to live 

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healthy, well balanced lives and
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where OK, yeah, science affirms 
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like, right. 
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that's helpful and the actual 
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my it's not like God discovered.
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He just he didn't need to 
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2026 and beyond as a, as a 
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family, fitness and finances and
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of and, and those are kind of 
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family, but also those closest 
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and, and brothers, but the, the,
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disciples that were closest to 
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body being a temple. 
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Yesterday I got us into faith 
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aspects are really in the in the
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for us knowing Jesus in our in 
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works of Jesus. 
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So we'll be in Hebrews 11 today.
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little deeper into Hebrews 11 as
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wanted to just point out that I 
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was like, I think sometimes we 
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of belief and this is how we 
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This is what faith looks like. 
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know, what beliefs can and 
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true, right? 
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inflexibility in our society 
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doctrine of this side. 
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well, no, you have to accept the
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what we believe is true. 
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think there's a difference even 
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Bible and you touched on it in 
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as well. 
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believe about Jesus right. 
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good, loving Savior, friend, OK,
that's going to then inform how 

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you act in faith for him, right.
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Jesus is with this grumpy old 
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like right, that's that's going 
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Jesus, who he is can change. 
It shouldn't change like and 

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that's what we're sorry. 
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myself, but like we're trying to
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of our, our belief of who Jesus 
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That's, that's what we do at 
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That's as, as we dig into 
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in those gaps, right? 
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information, the 
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understanding of who Jesus is, 
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Christian life, right? 
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know, there's so many reasons, 
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It's why, like we keep on 
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word is living and active, but 
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character of God, the more I can
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into the things that I believe 
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about life thereafter. 
That informs then as you talk 

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about faith. 
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moving? 
How am I using what I believe 

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into my actions? 
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you described that thought. 
That was really spot on. 

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So we are in Hebrews 11. 
I'm not going to spend a whole 

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lot of time I, I don't think on 
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that I worked through yesterday.
That message is is posted 

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earlier on the same podcast 
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first 11 verses, but there's a 
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the old faith that the writer of
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the Old Testament lives. 
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that's it's an appropriate word 
of the testament, the testimony 

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of God's faithfulness that was 
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This is a history of people's 
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their lives. 
That's what the Old Testament is

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for us. 
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Hebrews 11 if there's anything 
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yesterday. 
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more of these examples of faith.
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actually I I like this version. 
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substance of things hoped for, 
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That's that differs a little bit
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don't have it called up in front
of me. 

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I had the I had the CSV. 
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hope for assurance about things 
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tangible. 
It's this is this is how it 

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looks right. 
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actions is is faith like that's 
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that's what it what does it look
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Let me, let me show you what a 
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a life for Jesus. 
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seen. 
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aspect of faith too. 
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a little bit of mystery. 
I, I think belief again, is kind

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of in those tangible, 
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I I think faith there has to be 
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have this figured out and 
there's a good chance I might 

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not know like for sure this 
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And there's plenty of things in 
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marvelous, marvelous mystery of 
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And those of you who are 
married, you don't understand 

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that there's things that you 
maybe however long you've been 

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married, you still just don't 
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You would open up that can, man,
is that what we're doing not. 

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Saying we have to answer it 
right now, but I, I, it's, there

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are certain life events and, and
for me, marriage and parenting 

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are, are the biggest ones. 
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God that I didn't understand 
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until I was a parent. 
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be a parent or be married to 
understand those aspects of God,

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but it's just funny to me how 
how the writers, how God 

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inspired these people to write 
his words down. 

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And then when you're in the 
middle of it like, Oh yeah, no, 

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I get that. 
I I get how I love this person 

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and they also there are just a 
few specific ways that they are 

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a mystery to me and when will. 
You said that so nicely. 

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I was going to say and Lord, 
there are ways that even though 

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I love this person more than 
anybody else on the planet, they

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drive me mad, you know, and and 
so that would be the less kind 

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way of saying it, but I but it's
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And, and I, and I know that 
about me too, Like I, I am 

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probably a madding person 
sometimes to my spouse or my 

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kids, yet they still love me. 
And that reflects the, you know,

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on some small level, it reflects
the love of God despite our 

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flaws. 
Yeah, so I I talked and and 

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taught about some of the 
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verses of Hebrews 11 referencing
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And I actually love that it 
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And shouldn't it? 
And it should because we weren't

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there. 
And it takes, it takes some 

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faith to believe in creation, 
right? 

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The, the thing I didn't touch on
yesterday, it's an interesting 

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question, I think, can you have,
can you have faith in something 

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that isn't real? 
And I think that's one of the 

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distinctions between belief and,
and faith too. 

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Cause OK, classic example, do 
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Like, OK, I see. 
OK, I think I know. 

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Can like you can maybe believe 
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maybe be disproven. 
I don't know if you can. 

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Can you have faith in ghosts? 
Oh, 'cause there would be some 

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level of assurance that because 
I believe that there are ghosts,

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therefore this thing is going to
happen, right? 

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And I don't I don't know that 
you can make that connection. 

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Right, so that would be the 
answer. 

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Can you have faith in something 
that isn't real like. 

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Unicorns, right? 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, sure. 
Leprechauns. 

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You know, Bigfoot. 
Bigfoot. 

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Yeah. 
What? 

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No. 
I'm kidding. 

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I'm kidding. 
I'm kidding. 

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We didn't. 
I'm kidding. 

447
00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:02,760
We're not going to touch on the 
big, the big one, kid friendly, 

448
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,360
so we're not going to let 
anything out of the bag. 

449
00:25:04,360 --> 00:25:11,840
But yeah, so just the faith of 
Noah is something I keyed on 

450
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:16,480
yesterday too. 
And I, I, I don't think I drew 

451
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,200
it out in as many words what I 
didn't say in the example of 

452
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,240
Noah and it and I'm not, I'm not
saying you have to read it this 

453
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:24,480
way. 
They're, they're very much could

454
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,880
have been a very clear, very 
direct, audible voice of God. 

455
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,560
Noah. 
This is how the next 100 years 

456
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,000
are going to play out. 
This is how I need you to do it.

457
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,480
This is what I need to there. 
There could have been it's not 

458
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,160
written in the same direct way 
that the burning Bush is in 

459
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,840
Moses. 
And that's where I let my mind 

460
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,720
run a little bit of, of this 
could have been just a whisper. 

461
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,560
This could have been an inkling.
This could have been a, a 

462
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:52,000
feeling, a prodding of God of 
the Holy Spirit in Noah's life 

463
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,040
that eventually bloomed and, and
grew and manifested into, into 

464
00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:00,440
full blown faith. 
I only I brought that up because

465
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:08,480
us today especially, I think we 
need to hear and understand the 

466
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,640
plan that God has for for you or
the the direction that God has 

467
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,880
for your life or or even the 
actions that he has for you to 

468
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:22,680
take with your belief in faith. 
You're mostly not going to get 

469
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:28,400
the bullhorn Sally, go do this 
right. 

470
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,480
Like that's that's that's not 
going to have. 

471
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:35,640
I think it's a lot closer to the
Noah experience of unfamiliar 

472
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,800
with God. 
I know his voice, this leading, 

473
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,280
this ink. 
I'm convicted that this is how 

474
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,960
he would have me act and proceed
in this situation. 

475
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,600
I think very rarely we're going 
to have a Moses burning Bush 

476
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,560
moment directing us of how to 
act in faith. 

477
00:26:54,120 --> 00:26:57,560
Yeah, I'm, I'm on board with 
with that. 

478
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,360
You know, it's, it's interesting
because the burning Bush, we, 

479
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,920
we, I, I really believe, and I 
don't have regrets, but I really

480
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,880
believe we could have spent 
several weeks just on that, just

481
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,440
on that one text talking about 
the characteristics and the 

482
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,920
aspects of God and how he 
chooses to present himself and 

483
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:17,280
all these kinds of things. 
And, you know, but so for 

484
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,560
example, you know, if you go 
back to Genesis 6, yeah, we do 

485
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,560
not have a burning Bush moment. 
You know, we're looking at it 

486
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,600
and it it says, oh gosh, where 
are we? 

487
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:32,240
611 the earth was corrupt in 
God's sight, etcetera, etcetera.

488
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,680
Verse 13 and God said to Noah, 
Now what does God said to Noah 

489
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:37,680
mean? 
Right? 

490
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:42,800
You know, because that does not 
equate to the burning Bush. 

491
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,480
That does not equate to this 
mind blowing moment of God 

492
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,440
showing up in your face. 
No, like, you know, because and 

493
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,840
God said to the prophet, boom, 
boom, boom again, and all these 

494
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,520
examples of God said to so and 
so we don't have these big 

495
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,680
stories like that. 
It it could be that still we 

496
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,600
talk about a still small voice, 
how God just kind of moves 

497
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,160
quietly in our hearts and our 
minds. 

498
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,200
There's nothing here to indicate
in Genesis 6 that it was 

499
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,000
anything other than that. 
So, yeah, to draw out the idea 

500
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,600
that, and I love it. 
I, I actually like I was 

501
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,040
giggling in my chair. 
Imagine as you were describing 

502
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,600
it, like Noah going home, be 
like, oh, hey, by the way, 

503
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,880
honey, I'm going to quit my full
time job because I got to build 

504
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,240
this giant boat. 
And like, you know, the insanity

505
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,920
and the madness of that moment. 
And but, but God said, but God 

506
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,160
said. 
And so, yeah, there's, there's 

507
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,800
there's an element of faith 
there that that is nearly 

508
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,680
immeasurable. 
It's a level of trust that I 

509
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:49,360
think rarely do we allow people 
like we give to people like I, I

510
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,640
trust and I have faith in a very
small number of people in my 

511
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,880
life to do the big important 
things, to be there when it 

512
00:28:55,880 --> 00:29:01,720
really matters. 
And so like I just, yeah, I'm 

513
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,040
losing my words, but. 
Well, the other part of it for 

514
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:09,240
me is that still small voice is 
not less significant than the 

515
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,520
like it's still God said, right?
It's it's it's maybe not 

516
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,960
presented in the same 
spectacular grandeur as as the 

517
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,760
burning Bush, but the fact that 
God is speaking and leading is 

518
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,760
not less significant because 
it's not a burning Bush, right? 

519
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:28,240
So I don't, and again, I don't 
think we need to shape belief or

520
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:33,960
doctrine or theology on how 
clear God's audible voice was to

521
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,640
Noah. 
That's that's, I'm not trying to

522
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,800
get into that debate. 
I did just in my experience, and

523
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:44,240
I think most of you listening, 
the leading of God in your life 

524
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,280
hasn't been burning Bush 
moments. 

525
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,720
It's been still small voice 
moments. 

526
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,480
And that's not less significant.
That's that's still God's 

527
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,360
leading. 
That's still God's voice. 

528
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,720
We just have to do a lot better 
job of listening in that 

529
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,320
scenario. 
I think we. 

530
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,040
Just talked about two weeks. 
Ago, right? 

531
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,360
We can't. 
We can't ignore. 

532
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,120
It's hard to ignore the burning 
Bush. 

533
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,160
It's easier to ignore the still 
small voice. 

534
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,520
So well and thematically, even 
with the burning Bush and faith,

535
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,960
what do we see thematically in 
the burning Bush? 

536
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:20,800
What we see is we see Moses 
turning aside to something 

537
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:25,400
unusual, something that doesn't 
make sense and yeah, it doesn't 

538
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,200
fit in. 
And so in the same way, God 

539
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:33,280
oftentimes gets our attention 
for things that are not fitting 

540
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,160
in the normal rhythm of our 
life, whether that's tragic, 

541
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,880
whether that's something 
spectacular, whatever. 

542
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,640
God has a way of getting our 
attention through unusual 

543
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,640
moments and things that are not 
fitting in. 

544
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:50,360
And so same thing with that 
like, and, and I mean, how else 

545
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:51,760
is he going to get our 
attention? 

546
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,880
You know, I talked about it two 
weeks ago with like screw tape, 

547
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,960
the senior devil in CS Lewis's 
book. 

548
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,320
Like, he's just trying to keep 
you busy. 

549
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,920
And if he can keep you busy, 
well, what, what distracts me 

550
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,080
from the normal busy check in 
the box is something unusual. 

551
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:12,640
And God does the unusual in our 
lives quietly sometimes, but it 

552
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,560
can produce faith if we listen 
and we notice it. 

553
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,120
And so I think that's just it's 
a spot on way to think about it.

554
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:24,960
Yeah, Yep. 
The other examples we talked 

555
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,840
about Noah and briefly 
referenced Abraham and and Sarah

556
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,200
kind of these pillars of the 
like this is the establishment 

557
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:39,200
of the people of Israel, right 
of of God's people verse 1617. 

558
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,600
I'm going to I'm going to jump 
ahead to here 17 by faith 

559
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,760
Abraham, when God tested him 
offered Isaac as a sacrifice. 

560
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:51,280
This is if you haven't read it, 
there's a lot of crazy stories 

561
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,560
in the Bible. 
Well, crazy historical accounts 

562
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:59,240
in the Bible, but this is wild. 
Hebrews 11/17 He who had 

563
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,920
embraced the promises that 
mainly the promises God had told

564
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,160
Abraham what your, your 
descendants will outnumber the 

565
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,120
grains of sand and the stars in 
the sky, right? 

566
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:15,080
And it took that old age, what, 
like 120, they finally actually 

567
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,360
had a kid. 
They have the one first born, 

568
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,760
Isaac. 
And now God's taking the promise

569
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,600
away, apparently, right? 
The writer of Hebrews, though, 

570
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,920
even though God had said to him 
it is through Isaac that your 

571
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,560
offspring will be reckoned. 
Abraham reasoned that God could 

572
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,160
even raise the dead. 
And so in a manner of speaking, 

573
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,560
he did receive Isaac back from 
death. 

574
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:37,760
That's wild. 
Isn't that great? 

575
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:44,400
And that's not in the Genesis 
reading of of that story, but to

576
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,920
understand the posture of 
Abraham, that complete 

577
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,400
submission, faith, God and 
control humility like like that,

578
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,160
that OK, God said it was going 
to be through Isaac, but he's 

579
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,680
saying I need to sacrifice 
Isaac, which again is there's a 

580
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,240
lot of metaphors in this that 
sacrificing would also be in in 

581
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,240
AI think in a parental manner of
speaking. 

582
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,920
God, this is he's yours like, 
and the same way of our earthly 

583
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,000
resource, not the children are 
resources, but like we are the 

584
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,680
caretakers on earth for our 
children. 

585
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,560
They're ultimately Gods, right? 
So for him to go through with 

586
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,120
that sacrifice of saying, Oh 
God, what you would have me do, 

587
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:26,080
He's yours. 
So to to get to the point of 

588
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,760
even unto death and God, if 
you're going to work this out, 

589
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:30,960
you're going to bring him back 
from that. 

590
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,040
He had already resigned Isaac to
being dead and God and his great

591
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,040
power and wisdom bringing him 
back from the dead to still 

592
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:41,240
fulfill this promise. 
Jesus picture there too, right, 

593
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,280
like all the thing Howard, how 
are we going to be reconciled 

594
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:52,720
with God through death? 
But we we can't die our own 

595
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,280
death. 
It has to be the death of a 

596
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,600
perfect son. 
But if death could defeat him, 

597
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,000
that doesn't really work because
then if we have so he has to be 

598
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,640
brought back to life so we have 
new life in him. 

599
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,360
Like it's all, it's all there. 
Isn't that amazing? 

600
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:12,199
And you know, for, for Abraham's
sake, I cannot imagine the 

601
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,159
emotional hardship he went 
through. 

602
00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:19,199
Sure, Abraham had enough faith 
that God was going to work out 

603
00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:21,800
his plan no matter what the 
circumstances. 

604
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:27,199
So we have that level of faith. 
But as a parent, as a parent, as

605
00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:30,920
as, as you know, you, you've 
waited for this young man to be 

606
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:35,639
your son your entire life. 
And as a parent, I, that's a 

607
00:34:35,639 --> 00:34:38,000
thing. 
I don't know how, I don't know 

608
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,880
how he had the guts to do it. 
And that's, and that's why this 

609
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:46,560
is the maybe greatest test of 
faith in all of human history is

610
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:51,840
because you can't take away the 
human emotional love element of 

611
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:56,960
having a child and saying, OK, I
believe that this God is all 

612
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:01,520
powerful and all sovereign, all 
purposeful, and he's going to 

613
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,480
make something work. 
I can, I can have faith in that.

614
00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:07,240
But really, my son, are you 
kidding me? 

615
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:13,200
And and so I mean, man, the Lord
bless Abraham because what an 

616
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:19,120
incredible test that I think I 
who could even pass that test, 

617
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,480
you know, I mean, Abraham, like,
how did he even do it? 

618
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,320
This, this great faith in, in 
God speaking to him. 

619
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,040
And sure, I get that, but like 
I, I cannot imagine. 

620
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:33,000
And then, as you stated, you put
that you move that forward to 

621
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:39,280
God the Father in Jesus. 
And I just, it is irreconcilable

622
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:45,520
in my head how that is possible 
to give up somebody that you 

623
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,240
love like that for people who 
hate you. 

624
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,280
I just, I cannot reconcile that 
in my head how that's possible. 

625
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,560
But that's the beauty of the 
gospel, is it not? 

626
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,600
That God, even while we were 
still enemies, gave his one and 

627
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,800
only son for us. 
And I just, if that doesn't ring

628
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,400
something in your heart, I don't
know what will. 

629
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,320
Yeah. 
And that's really the punchline 

630
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,880
of it, right, Is how could, how 
could God ask Abraham to do 

631
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,800
that? 
Well, Fast forward a few 

632
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:15,720
thousand years. 
God did that. 

633
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,920
Like God, God is not God is 
Abraham, but like it, God's in 

634
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,160
the Abraham role and Jesus is in
the Isaac role. 

635
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,560
And that's how the people are 
saved, right? 

636
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:30,280
Yep, righteousness imputed to 
sinners who have no business 

637
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,200
having it. 
But here we are, saved by grace.

638
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,320
Praise the Lord. 
That is the gospel, and it's a 

639
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,840
it's a beautiful thing to 
receive in your heart and in 

640
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,080
your head. 
Yeah, Yep. 

641
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:50,640
Moving on, verse, verse 21 in 
Hebrews 11 by faith, Jacob when 

642
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,840
he was dying. 
So this is so Isaac had sons 

643
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,600
Jacob and Esau, right? 
Jacob when he was dying blessed 

644
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:03,360
each of Joseph's sons. 
So again Joseph 1212 born, 

645
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,800
worshipped as he leaned on top 
of his staff. 

646
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,560
We see from Jacob by faith, 
Joseph, when his end was near, 

647
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,720
spoke about the exodus of 
Israelites from Egypt and gave 

648
00:37:11,720 --> 00:37:15,160
instructions concerning the 
burial of his bones. 

649
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,040
And then we we jump forward to 
Moses by faith. 

650
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,320
Moses parents hid him for three 
months after he was born because

651
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:23,880
they saw he was no ordinary 
child. 

652
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,320
They were not afraid of the 
King's edict by faith. 

653
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,520
Moses when he had grown up 
refused to be known as the son 

654
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,880
of Pharaoh's daughter. 
Like that was the only thing 

655
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,280
that was protecting him, right? 
Was kind of the guys that he was

656
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:40,040
part of the Egyptian family. 
And that's that's crazy to me 

657
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,520
because we talked about it a 
little bit during the Moses 

658
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,120
series, but man, Moses had it 
all. 

659
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:49,040
He had this amazing lifestyle. 
He had everything that a human 

660
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,320
being at that point in history 
could ever desire or want. 

661
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,240
And he threw it away. 
He threw it all away. 

662
00:37:55,240 --> 00:37:58,360
I don't think that's a decision 
that he made lightly. 

663
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,080
And when we say, oh jeez, why 
did it take him 40 years to 

664
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,200
finally have enough? 
Well, that's why. 

665
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:07,520
I mean, he had to have been 
battling the human element of if

666
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,960
I just say nothing, I can live 
my days as rich and prosperous 

667
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,840
and powerful. 
But at some point, like he 

668
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,560
refused to keep selling out. 
By faith, you could say Moses 

669
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:23,000
refused to sell out and allow 
his people to continue to be 

670
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,520
mistreated that way. 
So that's a big leap of faith. 

671
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,520
Oh, yeah. 
He he could have been should 

672
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,920
have been killed nearly on the 
spot when he went against 

673
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,680
Pharaoh and his army. 
This by faith Joseph, when his 

674
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,920
end was near, spoke about the 
exodus of Israelites from Egypt 

675
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,280
and gave instructions concerning
the burial of his bones. 

676
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,320
That's an interesting little 
quirk that do you know? 

677
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,280
Do you know what that is? 
Please do tell. 

678
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:53,840
OK, so when Joseph died, he was 
never buried, his coffin laid 

679
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:58,920
above the ground for 400 years 
or so, the time of the the 

680
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,880
Hebrew slavery, right till it 
was taken back to Canaan. 

681
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,520
It was a silent witness. 
This is this is from the 

682
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,400
enduring word commentary. 
It was a silent witness all 

683
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,480
those years that Israel was 
going back to the promised land,

684
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,560
just as God had said, Joseph 
gave this instruction, no, I'm 

685
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,160
going to be buried in the land 
that God has given to us, not 

686
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,880
this foreign land. 
Again, a lot of this, this exile

687
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:26,360
not in our already, not yet in 
our home sort of sort of stuff, 

688
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,040
right? 
We see these themes woven 

689
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,880
through the Bible. 
So that was by faith. 

690
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,080
And what a crazy prophecy that 
is. 

691
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,800
You're on your deathbed. 
And in fact, you're one of the 

692
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,000
most powerful people in the 
country you live in. 

693
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,600
And you're like, yeah, but guess
what's going to happen? 

694
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:46,320
And of course, you know, I just 
the prophecies that are spoken 

695
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,000
of thus says the Lord, this is 
what's going to happen. 

696
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:54,160
It is remarkable in how a person
can look at that and go, yeah, 

697
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:59,600
but it is shocking to me how 
just thick headed we can be when

698
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,840
there's example after example 
after example of God saying, all

699
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,080
right, this is what I'm going to
do. 

700
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,960
And then years down the road, 
decades, whatever, he does it. 

701
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,800
And you're like, yeah, I don't 
know, but maybe that's a 

702
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,800
coincidence. 
Oh, come on. 

703
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:18,320
You know, we, we get so blinded 
by our own preconceived ideas. 

704
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,600
That we just fail to see the 
most clear writing on the wall. 

705
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,680
And I'm, I can't help but 
thinking about this weird moment

706
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,440
in Daniel where the hand writes 
on the wall. 

707
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:31,520
And that's what is that Daniel 
Chapter 7 or 6 anyway. 

708
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,600
But yeah, the writing on the 
wall, that's where that phrase 

709
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:39,920
comes from. 
And so I just it, it baffles me 

710
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,440
sometimes. 
Again, as a perfectly logical, 

711
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:48,880
clear thinker who again, I need 
to be intellectually, I need to 

712
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,160
be intellectually like it has to
make sense. 

713
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,960
I cannot just in blind faith, 
quote UN quote. 

714
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,200
I'm, I've never been built that 
way. 

715
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,240
I'm a bit of a cynic. 
I'm a bit of a doubter. 

716
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,080
But the things that the Bible 
prescribes and says and and thus

717
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,480
says the Lord and then it comes 
true. 

718
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,920
And like, there is just no other
faith on the planet that is 

719
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,080
built around the truth the way 
that Christianity is. 

720
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,960
It's really remarkable. 
Yeah, very cool. 

721
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,280
By faith, Moses's parents hit 
him for three months for they 

722
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,160
were not afraid of the King's 
edict. 

723
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:25,040
We see this kind of power 
struggle between man and God. 

724
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:29,080
And this is where some of those 
the New Testament passages of 

725
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,560
like submit to earthly rulers as
as in the Lord. 

726
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:38,200
Well, when earthly rulers 
conflict with God's precepts, 

727
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,960
God still wins, right? 
And we see that in in the Moses 

728
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,400
passage here. 
So it was, it's still, it was 

729
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,520
still awkward. 
It was still by faith they had, 

730
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,520
they had to defy the earthly 
kings order and that could have 

731
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,280
come with unjust punishment. 
But it could have come with 

732
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,200
punishment, right? 
So they were not afraid of the 

733
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,600
King's command. 
Faith gave Moses parents the 

734
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,720
courage to obey God instead of 
man. 

735
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,400
And that faith passes down. 
By faith, Moses when he became 

736
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,520
of age, refused to be called the
son of Pharaoh's daughter, 

737
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,640
choosing rather to suffer 
affliction with the people of 

738
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:16,200
God. 
By faith, he, he forsook Egypt. 

739
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,880
He left Egypt not fearing the 
wrath of the king, for he 

740
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,000
endured as seeing him who is 
invisible. 

741
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,520
Again, Moses was, he had his 
priorities, right? 

742
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:29,760
He, he was living for God, not 
for man, right. 

743
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:35,120
Moses showed faith when he led 
Israel, keeping the Passover, 

744
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:39,560
the sprinkling of of blood with 
the warning of of the first born

745
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:44,000
and that first Passover there. 
So we we see this establishment 

746
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,400
down from where we're going to 
get into this sort of 

747
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,200
generational inheritance with 
with family this next week, 

748
00:42:51,240 --> 00:42:54,480
right. 
That's the Old Testament, that's

749
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,320
the chronicle of God's 
faithfulness through his people 

750
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,440
through generations. 
That's that's what's the old, 

751
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,520
the Old Testament is right? 
Yeah, well, and I'll just give 

752
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,960
you the preview. 
Thematically, the greatest 

753
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,480
inheritance you can give your 
family is faith, right? 

754
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:16,640
And so we see these, we see 
these people of of old as, as we

755
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:22,080
might say, just defying all the 
odds, defying anything that 

756
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:27,320
makes sense in favor of trusting
God beyond their circumstances. 

757
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,360
And so I mean, what greater 
gift, Oh gosh, I'll give too 

758
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,400
much of A preview, but what 
greater gift can we give our 

759
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,960
family, our kids, you know, our 
friends, Then the true visual 

760
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,080
sign that like, you know what, 
this shouldn't work, but this is

761
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,000
how God is leading me. 
And so here we are. 

762
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,480
I think there's something 
remarkable about living it out 

763
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,880
in that way and showing that 
amount of trust. 

764
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:55,600
And God just does not fail when 
we go out on a limb. 

765
00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:00,800
He, I mean, he just, he, he 
always fulfills it. 

766
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,600
He always keeps his promises. 
And so you know, and, and I'll 

767
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,960
say this to whoever is 
listening, if you are feeling 

768
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:12,760
poked and prodded by God, which 
I know what that's like, I won't

769
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,360
get into any stories, but I know
what that's like. 

770
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,560
If you're feeling poked and 
prodded by God, I want to 

771
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,720
encourage you step out in faith 
on whatever that prodding is, 

772
00:44:21,720 --> 00:44:26,960
because he will not fail you. 
And whatever you've imagined as 

773
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,360
the, as the end game of you 
stepping out in faith, both good

774
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:34,400
or bad, I will tell you, you 
will be blown away by the 

775
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:38,280
creativity in the faithfulness 
of God in whatever that turns 

776
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:39,440
out to be. 
It is. 

777
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,800
Again, it's just, it's 
fascinating and it is wholly 

778
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,080
consistent. 
And you said up the next few 

779
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,640
verses kind of perfectly here 
actually, Verse 30 in Hebrews 11

780
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,600
is by faith. 
The walls of Jericho fell down 

781
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,600
after they were encircled for 
seven days. 

782
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,080
Verse 31, by faith. 
Rahab did not perish with those 

783
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,080
who did not believe. 
She was, she was a Jericho 

784
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,880
citizen. 
She was a Canaanite, right? 

785
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:08,040
And she, she protected the 
spies, defying, she was an enemy

786
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,160
of God to it. 
So you, you talked about OK, 

787
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,840
neighbors, family, generational 
inheritance. 

788
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:18,200
No, this faith is also for our 
enemies as shown in in the Old 

789
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:22,120
Testament. 
And so she was facing immense 

790
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,000
persecution then, right? 
She, she was literally leaving 

791
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,560
this evil life behind. 
And she and she had to make that

792
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:33,080
decision in a moment. 
Is this God is is this does he 

793
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,120
have the power? 
She would have heard the stories

794
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:39,000
of the crossing of the Red Sea 
and the and the all of that she 

795
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,960
had to make a decision. 
OK, this is what God has in 

796
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,280
store. 
Do I act out in faith and leave 

797
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,800
this old evil life behind right.
That's us. 

798
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:52,680
That's each and every one of us.
And to your point, God, God 

799
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,280
didn't fall through right? 
His his plans did not fall apart

800
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,640
for her, that she did not perish
with those who did not believe, 

801
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,040
when she received the spies with
peace. 

802
00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:05,480
Well, in, you know, going back 
to the belief in the faith 

803
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:11,440
conversation or the definitions 
there in man, she believed all 

804
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:15,760
of the probably rumors, stories,
whatever that she heard about. 

805
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,080
Oh my gosh, this people group is
coming. 

806
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:22,000
And here's how their God has 
walked them right out of slavery

807
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,360
into again, you're talking about
word of mouth. 

808
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,960
You're talking about regional 
geopolitical relations and we're

809
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:32,280
talking about the word getting 
out that this people group has 

810
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:36,240
been, has done the impossible 
because their God is with them. 

811
00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:41,520
And so she had to measure out. 
She had to weigh, OK, if I 

812
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,880
believe that story, if I believe
everything I've heard about what

813
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:50,240
their God is doing amongst them,
I will therefore act in faith 

814
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,680
and go against my entire 
society, my entire culture, 

815
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,520
everything I've ever known and 
lived through by faith. 

816
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:02,720
I'm going to defy all of that 
because I believe that these 

817
00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:07,320
accounts of this God are true. 
And that's a really remarkable 

818
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,240
thing. 
That's that's again, it's kind 

819
00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:14,720
of it's it's crazy town to be 
like, I can't believe she did 

820
00:47:14,720 --> 00:47:16,280
that. 
And it and again, wrap your head

821
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:20,880
around the story and you'll see 
how just immensely difficult 

822
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,680
that must have been for her. 
But by faith, she defies her 

823
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,600
culture and defies everything 
she's ever known. 

824
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,760
It is. 
That is a hero of faith right 

825
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,680
there. 
And it was and the and so like 

826
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,000
that's some of the verbiage used
in this passage. 

827
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,040
The writer of Hebrews at this 
point feels like he's getting 

828
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,080
somewhat long winded. 
He goes and says and what more 

829
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,880
shall I say? 
Time would fail me to tell if 

830
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:48,320
Gideon and Barack and Samson and
and Jpath and and also of David 

831
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,800
and Samuel and the prophets. 
He eventually like the list runs

832
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,840
out and he's just and all the 
rest of the province and the and

833
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:59,440
those guys. 
Gideon boldly destroyed idols 

834
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,240
and was mightily used of God to 
defeat the army of Midianites. 

835
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:07,200
Barack led the people of Israel 
in a dramatic victory over the 

836
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,960
Canaanites in Judges 4. 
Samson was used mightily to 

837
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,800
defeat the Philistines. 
Jay path used to defeat the 

838
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:18,560
Ammonites and David, of course, 
the king of Israel, a remarkable

839
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:23,800
man of faith who also failed in 
right when and will he he he 

840
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,360
fell to temptation. 
It wasn't, it wasn't his faith 

841
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:32,600
wavered as as ours can. 
There is still notable areas of 

842
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:37,880
failure in their lives, but God 
didn't change throughout those 

843
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,320
circumstances. 
And often I think there's a, 

844
00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:48,320
there's somewhat a two way. 
Well, it's, it's like the 

845
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,440
spoiler God wins sort of thing, 
right? 

846
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,440
There's a there's a there's a 
moment I'm just raving about the

847
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:55,400
David movie. 
I'm sorry. 

848
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,080
You're going to you're going to 
get sick of me say saying it. 

849
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,200
But we went inside again over 
over break. 

850
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,880
And I just think it's it's great
the the telling of the whole 

851
00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:09,160
story of David. 
There's a scene when the 

852
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,280
Philistines come back and like, 
like David has been run out of 

853
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:16,240
town and Saul and Saul is also 
going crazy and isn't going to 

854
00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:21,120
meet the Philistines in, in 
battle Jonathan and the faith of

855
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,320
Jonathan. 
I also think is something I, I 

856
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,080
got to find some, someone has to
have written a good book on 

857
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,760
Jonathan and about his, his 
example of humility, because he 

858
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:30,800
should have been the king, 
right? 

859
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,920
He, he was the heir to the 
throne and he was totally OK 

860
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,200
with David being the heir to the
throne. 

861
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,200
So that act of humility is crazy
in and of itself. 

862
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,640
But there's a there's a scene in
the movie now the Philistine 

863
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:47,040
king is being all, hey, we're 
going to come beat you up armies

864
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,200
10 times your size. 
Of course, of course we're going

865
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,640
to win. 
And Jonathan's just like, hey, 

866
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:55,360
if you defeat us today, my 
father, my father's Kingdom 

867
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,920
parishes, it's God's will that, 
that David's going to be king. 

868
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,440
If we defeat you, it'll be, 
Yeah, you're right. 

869
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,440
The odds are stacked against us.
It's 12:50. 

870
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,840
So of course it'll be by God's 
provision that we win. 

871
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,000
Either way. 
Either David's on the throne or 

872
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,640
our God's strength is proved. 
Either way, you lose. 

873
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,480
Either way, God wins. 
Man, you know, you hear somebody

874
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,040
talk like that and you're like, 
I don't know what to do with 

875
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,440
this. 
Like, yeah, how do, how do I? 

876
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,160
The only thing you can do at 
that point from the Philistine 

877
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,000
Army's, you know, perspective is
you're like, you know what, 

878
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:30,960
we're just going to shut these 
guys up. 

879
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,440
And it obviously fails 
miserably, historically 

880
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,880
speaking. 
And there we are. 

881
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,440
God. 
God always fulfills his 

882
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,400
promises. 
And now, OK, now you've talked 

883
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,680
about that movie enough. 
Then I'm like, now I got to go. 

884
00:50:44,720 --> 00:50:45,560
Now I got to. 
Go see it. 

885
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:49,800
Not even I would just go see it.
Not not even like my kids 

886
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,440
enjoyed it. 
I would just go see it again. 

887
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,000
I would it. 
It was it was that captivating. 

888
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,000
They do have. 
If you've ever looked up stuff 

889
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:04,840
by Mark Batterson, he's I think 
Capital City Church, National 

890
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,040
Church. 
He's he's got a big church in 

891
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,040
Washington, DC and read several 
of his books. 

892
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,920
He's got some good books on 
prayer and fasting and rest, 

893
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,080
which is which is good. 
But anyway, he was there like 

894
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,040
theological consultant on 
things. 

895
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,520
And I, I really think it is 
pretty really true to the 

896
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,800
biblical narrative and a lot of 
things in there. 

897
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,880
But that scene is really 
capturing to me for faith. 

898
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,680
Because this next kind of 
sequence in this Hebrews 11 

899
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,680
passage after he lifts off lists
off Gideon and Barack and Samson

900
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,400
and all, and all these guys. 
There's kind of this contrast 

901
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,440
verse 33, all these guys who 
through faith conquered 

902
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,320
kingdoms. 
And then he lists off all these 

903
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,600
kind of sort of victorious 
actions way that way that they 

904
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:51,760
acted out a winning faith. 
But then you get down to to 

905
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,920
verse 35, there were others who 
were tortured, refusing to be 

906
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:57,600
released. 
Some face jeers and flogging and

907
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,960
even chains and imprisonment. 
They were put to death by 

908
00:51:59,960 --> 00:52:02,920
stoning. 
Like he's very clearly pointing 

909
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:04,080
out faith isn't always 
glamorous. 

910
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:10,000
It's it's it's very much that 
Paulian attitude of to live is 

911
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:11,960
Christ, to die is gain, right? 
And. 

912
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,440
I think you have to be. 
I think you have to be real and 

913
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,640
you have to be authentic about 
when it doesn't quote UN quote, 

914
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:23,080
work out in your favor. 
You know, man, not everybody 

915
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,880
gets to take the sling in the 
stone and defeat the giant, 

916
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,280
right? 
Not that's not everybody's 

917
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,240
story. 
Some of us lose our lives, you 

918
00:52:32,240 --> 00:52:35,920
know, think about, Oh my 
goodness, the, the millions of 

919
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:40,760
Christians who have died at the 
hands of violent people who 

920
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,800
oppose them simply because of 
their faith. 

921
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:49,080
And, you know, you might feel 
downcast about that or you might

922
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,480
feel downcast about the fact 
that, man, I, I've been praying 

923
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,200
for a month. 
I've been, I've been, you know, 

924
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,840
just sweating in prayer for this
thing. 

925
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:02,320
And it seems like God said no. 
And so you might, you might feel

926
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:06,400
the tension of that, but we have
to be, we have to be realistic. 

927
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,520
And I love that part, you know, 
that, that realism within 

928
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,640
Hebrews 11. 
You know, you get all these, you

929
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:12,960
get all pumped up, you're all 
excited. 

930
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:13,720
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

931
00:53:13,720 --> 00:53:15,320
Well, you know, And then he's 
like, yeah. 

932
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:21,000
But sometimes it, it won't work 
out, at least in terms of how 

933
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,080
you thought. 
Yeah, how we designed it. 

934
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:24,920
But does it not? 
But it. 

935
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,080
But it's pointed out right here.
So that they might rise again to

936
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,400
a better life right. 
It's what you just said like, 

937
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,680
hey, if it doesn't work out 
here, I win anyway. 

938
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:38,240
So do your worst. 
And I think that's what we get 

939
00:53:38,240 --> 00:53:43,040
to say to Satan to a world that 
would accuse and criticize and 

940
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,240
and try and and try and ruin us.
Do your worst. 

941
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,360
Go ahead. 
I'm going to I'm going to win 

942
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,600
either way. 
And it, and I and I do think 

943
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:54,840
Christians, especially in the 
midst of trials, we have to 

944
00:53:54,840 --> 00:54:00,160
maintain that, that steadfast, 
hard attitude of, of doing that 

945
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,560
because sometimes I think we get
into Christianity and we're 

946
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,920
like, oh, it's all soft and 
lovey and all this kind of 

947
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:07,720
stuff. 
No, there's a hard edge to 

948
00:54:07,720 --> 00:54:10,040
Christianity. 
And that hard edge is a 

949
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,120
stubbornness that that says just
that. 

950
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,600
Do your worst. 
I'm moving on to a better life. 

951
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,720
Even if you think you won, you 
can't win. 

952
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,000
And that's what we get to 
because of Jesus Christ. 

953
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,360
That's what we get to say to 
Satan when he accuses us. 

954
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,040
Yeah, tell, tell me all the 
worst things I've ever done. 

955
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,160
Guess what? 
It you're right, I have done 

956
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,160
those things. 
And by the way, you forgot about

957
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:36,280
20 other things I did. 
So check your list again, Satan.

958
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,280
But it doesn't matter because 
I've got Jesus Christ on my side

959
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,640
who has invited me home. 
And so, yeah, you have to have a

960
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,920
hard edge to it as well. 
You have to have a hard edge. 

961
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,560
I love that posture of humility 
that you point out that we're 

962
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:52,480
we're not all going to be in the
David position of defeating 

963
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,880
Goliath. 
That faith isn't always it's 

964
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,400
it's much more often probably 
going to be a humble daily 

965
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:00,640
obedience. 
Kind of the small steps I was 

966
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,360
talking, I was talking about 
yesterday, not the big momentous

967
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,520
jumping out of a plane sort of 
faith. 

968
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:13,560
It's it's in the smaller moments
because that that daily act of 

969
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,760
humility. 
There's a lyric in for his 

970
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:17,480
glory. 
Am I good? 

971
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,960
We we sing that new age hymn 
often. 

972
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:23,000
The final verse is would I 
gladly be made nothing that 

973
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:27,240
Christ would be made more. 
It's not it's still not about us

974
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:31,200
that our our faith even isn't 
about us. 

975
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,560
It's it's fix our eyes on Jesus,
the author and perfector, the 

976
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:40,280
object of our faith, right. 
So it's it's still not about our

977
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,960
did we defeat Goliath because 
because David didn't even really

978
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:48,840
defeat Goliath, right? 
It was it, it, it was by God's 

979
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,320
power. 
So embracing that position of 

980
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:58,520
humility, I think is really the 
first key to entering into a 

981
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,400
meaningful faith that that's 
where it's at. 

982
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,600
Jovi Martin I, I saw a clip from
him this past week. 

983
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:09,400
He warned kind of referencing 
that that Matthew five passage 

984
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,880
that that I referenced at the 
end of in my kind of benediction

985
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,240
yesterday. 
Blessed are the porn spirit that

986
00:56:15,240 --> 00:56:18,280
the most Joey Martin. 
I can't I'll have to link the 

987
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,320
clip or or find it somewhere, 
but he he weren't the most 

988
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,720
dangerous thing for a Christian 
faith are the words I got this 

989
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:28,160
for for us to have the arrogance
of I can sort this out for 

990
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,200
myself. 
No, Jesus first words were 

991
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,800
blessed are the porn spirit. 
Blessed are those that that have

992
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,280
been humbled to the point of 
realizing I don't got this. 

993
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:40,720
This isn't me. 
That's where we enter into 

994
00:56:40,720 --> 00:56:42,240
faith. 
Amen. 

995
00:56:42,240 --> 00:56:44,520
Well said. 
Yeah, you're spot on. 

996
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:49,200
I have nothing to add, Sir. 
OK, well, we just, we hustled 

997
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,280
through about 40 verses worth of
Hebrews. 

998
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:52,960
Thanks for. 
Yeah. 

999
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:56,400
Here, there, there we are. 
Thanks for hanging with us. 

1000
00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:00,120
Church. 
Yeah, I just, I don't, I don't 

1001
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:04,200
always have words for it, but 
it's really quite surreal to, to

1002
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,640
serve and lead and be a part of 
this church community, how God's

1003
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:13,680
moving in, in lives in our 
church, in this community, how 

1004
00:57:13,720 --> 00:57:16,040
he, how he strengthened 
families, how he's healed 

1005
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,440
relationships. 
And I know I don't want to say 

1006
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:22,840
that if you're not in that place
of reconciliation and healing in

1007
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:27,360
your specific circumstance, I 
don't want to say that as you're

1008
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:31,760
doing less than, but I am saying
that he is moving in those ways.

1009
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:38,520
He has healed situations and and
and sins and hurts in our own 

1010
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,840
church, in our own community. 
I know we don't always see it. 

1011
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,840
We don't always broadcast it, 
but your struggle, your, your 

1012
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:51,200
whatever affliction, things that
are affecting or or disparaging 

1013
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,760
your life, you are not alone. 
We are in community together. 

1014
00:57:54,760 --> 00:58:00,000
We, we all have hurts and 
struggles and God is reconciling

1015
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,440
and healing many, many of these 
situations. 

1016
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:05,160
He can do the same for you. 
We're going to do it together in

1017
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:06,800
community. 
So thanks for being a part of 

1018
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:10,440
it, taking some of this in, 
share it with a friend or or 

1019
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,880
family member. 
We're working through the the 

1020
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,520
other 3 apps the rest of this 
month and we really believe this

1021
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:19,040
is something that will spur us 
on as we seek His Kingdom first.

1022
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:20,760
So have a blessed week, Church.