1 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,720 Happy Monday, Pastor Matt's here with you. 2 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,040 Pastor Chris. It was so soft. 3 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,000 So normal, OK. So calm. 4 00:00:20,080 --> 00:00:21,960 So calm. And Creston's here. 5 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,680 I don't like it. I say your guys voice is weird. 6 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,520 Pastor Chris. Yeah, I'm Crasston. 7 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,200 It's just that I don't know. What is that part of that word 8 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:33,120 called? That syllable? 9 00:00:33,480 --> 00:00:35,640 Oh, phoneme. Is that a thing? 10 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,960 Oh, Kraystan, My wife's a speech therapist. 11 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,520 I know things I don't know, things she knows. 12 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,400 That I definitely do not know things by the way I found out. 13 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaking of words. OK, so speaking. 14 00:00:49,480 --> 00:00:51,040 Of. Words, yes. 15 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,000 You like that segue? Here we go. 16 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:58,800 So Speaking of words in general, but last week on the podcast, 17 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,960 you, you kind of flubbed the word consecrate. 18 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,760 And then I realized, and then I realized that during the sermon, 19 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:07,840 I flubbed that word when I was reading the text. 20 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,200 And then on my Monday night group, the person who is reading 21 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,360 the text for us flubbed the word to. 22 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,720 Apparently it's a very difficult word to say without really 23 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,720 thinking about it because we were three for three. 24 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,000 Like messing it up. Oh, I thought you're OK. 25 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,520 I thought you were saying it's like psychologically actually 26 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,320 like a difficult word for the human brain to say. 27 00:01:26,320 --> 00:01:28,320 But you're just in your experience, in your field 28 00:01:28,320 --> 00:01:31,440 experience. 3 for three, all right, messed it up. 3 for 29 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,200 three. So I don't know, maybe 30 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,920 consecrate is a just terrible word to try and say in the 31 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,200 moment. It's not a really common word. 32 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:44,200 Like we don't, you don't. You don't bring that up in 33 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:45,760 regular, everyday speech, really. 34 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,920 Right, like it's very. Very specific. 35 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,800 That might, but I don't think the rest of us do. 36 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,720 Why me? Yeah, I don't look at my family 37 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,360 and be like consecrate. See, I did it again. 38 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,080 Consecrate themselves before dinner. 39 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:02,080 It's very close to like concentrate and consequences and 40 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:06,320 like, I feel like you can go a lot of different ways out of the 41 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,759 start to that word, right? Yeah. 42 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,280 Then you can also end up a lot of different places. 43 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:11,720 Place. Yeah. 44 00:02:11,920 --> 00:02:14,320 I don't know. It's a jumble and we don't say 45 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:15,600 it. Words are hard. 46 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,280 Yeah. Words are difficult. 47 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,640 For a living, great. Yeah, I know it's, you know, 48 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,400 every, every Sunday is a struggle. 49 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,240 We know. Hey, that's just hurtful. 50 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,640 You said it, not me. Yeah. 51 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,840 All right. So today is and Ask Me Anything 52 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,600 episode Y'all submitted questions and there's there's 53 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,800 maybe even more than we will have time to get to. 54 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,080 We're going to keep it to about an hour. 55 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,960 Might go a little extra because it's it's a special episode, 56 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,560 special week. But Kristen's here to to mediate 57 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:52,520 and kind of keep us on time and ask questions and and keep us 58 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,320 somewhat on track, you know, as though we're not going to stay 59 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,440 wholly on track the whole time, but to add a third voice to the 60 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,640 fray too. So yeah, that's going to be 61 00:03:01,640 --> 00:03:03,280 good. Thanks for participating and 62 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,840 submitting them. You can always submit a question 63 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:11,000 in in the show comments here or on the Facebook post and we'll 64 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,640 we'll add them to the pile and kind of we usually do an 65 00:03:13,640 --> 00:03:16,520 icebreaker ask me anything question at the beginning of 66 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,560 each episode weekly. So just keep us going on the ERC 67 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,720 Leftovers podcast. You can like and subscribe 68 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,120 wherever you're listening and following along with podcast. 69 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,360 There's there's plenty of you that there's like 50% of you 70 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,640 that come to church on Sunday mornings and still listen to 71 00:03:32,640 --> 00:03:35,320 this episode afterwards. So that's for us. 72 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,080 That's not that it's all about numbers, but it's well worth 73 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:39,400 doing. There's a large portion of you 74 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:43,040 that are continually engaged in out of Sunday morning, engaged 75 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:44,720 in the week, Monday through Saturday. 76 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,720 So yeah, we're going to keep doing this thing. 77 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,000 It's a great exercise for us and just I think a fun conversation 78 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,040 for us to continue to have. And then we get to have episodes 79 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,120 like this too. So going to be great. 80 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,200 Thanks for listening along. Kristen, what's our first 81 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,800 question? All right, ready for this one? 82 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,560 Did Adam and Eve have belly buttons? 83 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:04,960 Classic. Did they? 84 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:07,840 Did they? Theology, man. 85 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,000 Theology, man. Would you like to go first? 86 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,560 Oh no, I'm never going to live that down. 87 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:16,720 You're not. You won't. 88 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,240 This is just OK, whatever I need. 89 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,760 Yep, go ahead. So just off the cuff, because I 90 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,040 didn't, I didn't research this, I did not look it up. 91 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:25,520 I've never really thought about this before. 92 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:30,080 And so my response would be yes. OK. 93 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,880 Because though they did not need them to be well, obviously like 94 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:39,120 there wasn't functional. They were just created still a 95 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,000 part of like the human anatomy, right? 96 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,640 That it's it's still, it had a function in their offspring and 97 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,840 is still something that just like is the way the human, that 98 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:54,360 it's not like they didn't have a hole there even though they 99 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:58,480 didn't need it, right? Well because well to to maybe 100 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,600 counter slightly not I don't I don't have a super hard opinion 101 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,640 on this. But to counter slightly, what is 102 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,120 a belly button? Is it not a scar from the 103 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,560 cutting and removal of an umbilical cord? 104 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:15,280 Therefore, in order to obtain said scar, you would have to be 105 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,440 cut from an umbilical cord, which they were not. 106 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:23,960 OK, so is the umbilical cord part of the baby or the mother? 107 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:31,120 And either way it is part of the human anatomy because it's 108 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,120 either attached to the the baby or the mother. 109 00:05:35,840 --> 00:05:40,640 So why would God exclude it from the human figure just because he 110 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,440 created them by snapping his fingers? 111 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:51,480 It has a place in human anatomy. Wow, come out hot today. 112 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,160 Well, let me let me let me give counterpoint, let me give a 113 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,800 different source and I'll let me see how this shakes out with 114 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:58,680 you. I'm. 115 00:05:58,680 --> 00:05:59,920 Just shooting from the hip so. Please. 116 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,760 Well, and, and again, I referenced this website 117 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,040 lastweekbutgotquestions.org. I can't believe they covered 118 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,600 this question, but they did. They've kind of got it all. 119 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,200 OK, so here's what they say on that website. 120 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,600 Not ever being in a womb, Adam and Eve would never have needed 121 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,880 umbilical cords. Never having an umbilical cord, 122 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,840 Adam and Eve would not have been scarred by its detachment. 123 00:06:19,840 --> 00:06:24,080 So we can say that Adam and Eve probably would not have had 124 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:25,920 navels. God created our first appearance 125 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:27,920 without scars. OK. 126 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:32,320 But like so That's based on the argument that they did not need 127 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,560 them for utility, right. We have, we have a couple 128 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,280 different organs that we don't need, right? 129 00:06:37,280 --> 00:06:39,680 Like we don't need our appendix. Tonsils. 130 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:47,600 Tonsils, wisdom teeth, eyebrows, nipples, nipples on men like 131 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,720 what are we? What are we doing? 132 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:53,920 You just. Look weird in a bathing suit. 133 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,160 Really like their aesthetic aren't? 134 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,400 They they like it builds symmetry, doesn't it? 135 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,560 But are you ever like, man, look at, look at that guy's nipples, 136 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:13,760 Like, no, I'm just like, I don't know, I think they're weird. 137 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:14,840 They're not. I'm just saying they're not 138 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,240 functional, right? Christmas mortified. 139 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,120 But would you say, hey, look at that guy's belly button? 140 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,280 Oh, I mean when it's weird, yeah. 141 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,520 What's a weird belly button? I don't. 142 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,880 Know if it's like 4 inches deep or something weird like that, or 143 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,920 like unusually large you're like oh that's a weird belly button. 144 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:37,720 What? Yeah. 145 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,040 You've got, you've observed way more belly buttons than I. 146 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,360 I feel like every belly button I've seen is relatively the 147 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,760 same, like it's an innie or an outie, end of end of 148 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:51,520 conversation and like that. OK, so then if Adam and Eve had 149 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,000 belly buttons, do you think they would be innies or outies? 150 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,680 Innies because I think the only way you get an Audi is probably 151 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,360 like it, it got cut off weird, right? 152 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:04,920 That's it. That's see, that's maybe a 153 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,240 better question. Did God design them to be innies 154 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,400 or outies? Were they supposed to be innies 155 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:13,400 or outies? This is the cutting edge, deep 156 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,680 stuff that we get into on the Ask Me Anything episode. 157 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,640 Let's go ahead and move on. This is this has been good 158 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:26,560 little, little deeper, all right are phrases like Oh my God, 159 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,920 taking the Lord's name in vain. Absolutely. 160 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,120 Come on, let's not mess around here. 161 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,200 Absolutely they are. To play. 162 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,360 OK, So what other what other phrases maybe are we talking 163 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,640 about? Parents, you're welcome for us 164 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,200 educating your children on things they shouldn't be saying. 165 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:45,680 What? What? 166 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,720 What else would like? So GD Yeah. 167 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,320 Bad Thumbs down, Thumbs down. OK. 168 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:59,280 What about like what the H? Yeah, but that's not God's name. 169 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:04,600 That is a noun or a place that you have then used as a what 170 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,680 adjective or? Yeah, OK. 171 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:15,720 OK, so obviously some people just say Christ and or or Jesus 172 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,920 honestly in a like angry way, right? 173 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,200 Like in response or descriptive way. 174 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,280 That's not good. No, no. 175 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,080 Well, because I mean, and I and actually I talked to the kids 176 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,600 about this a couple weeks ago at confirmation we're going through 177 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,040 the 10 commandments. And so I just gave the example. 178 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,960 If every time I got really mad, I said, oh, Sarah Peniston, like 179 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:38,560 would that. Be offensive to her. 180 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,000 That's so weird, you know, And Sarah was in the room and got a 181 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,840 chuckle out of her. And but it's just like, why 182 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,720 would I do that? And I don't even know like how 183 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:51,000 that would ever come about. It's just a ridiculous thing to 184 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,720 say. And it is taking a holy, 185 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:58,440 otherworldly better name and using it in such a way that it's 186 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,320 just disrespectful and irreverent and. 187 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,120 If you think about that phrasing, taking the Lord's name 188 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:08,280 in vain, it really so in vain would be something that is 189 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,960 worthless, right? Like it is of no consequence 190 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:17,360 thereby why are you doing it? If if it it's it's not 191 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,280 controlling God, it's not actually bringing any power to 192 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,560 your situation either. It's it's literally a worthless 193 00:10:23,560 --> 00:10:26,640 endeavor, right? Yeah, and the other thing is 194 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,240 like taking his name in vain is not necessarily just like a 195 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,400 swear word. I again, this is very relevant 196 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,880 in my head just because our confirmation students recently 197 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,760 went through this, but here's a couple ways that have been 198 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,280 listed that we might take God's name in vain, use his name 199 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:45,120 thoughtlessly or without respect, cursing in his name, 200 00:10:45,560 --> 00:10:49,280 using it needlessly as a way to confirm like quote, I swear to 201 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:53,920 God, blah, blah, blah. You know, by by swearing to a 202 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,800 lie in trial before a court of law, by conjuring or fortune 203 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,320 telling, saying his name indifferently and taking part in 204 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,040 seances, mediums, etcetera. So those are all ways that we 205 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:09,000 can do that. So what about like swearing on 206 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:16,040 the Bible so help me God like like do we still do that in our 207 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:17,720 I haven't watched a presidential inauguration. 208 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,240 Do they do they still I believe they right hand on the bottom. 209 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:26,120 I think they do to at like the witness stand you do you do that 210 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,040 still on the Bible or is that is that. 211 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:29,680 Just I believe that's still a thing. 212 00:11:29,680 --> 00:11:33,600 In recent court cases I've seen they still do that, but not all 213 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,600 places use the Bible anymore. They, they just say, you know, 214 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,200 basically it's a, it's an O, it's a promise. 215 00:11:39,560 --> 00:11:41,120 Sure. I think and I think that's a 216 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,760 little the the so help me God like that's that's usually 217 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,800 what's at the end of that, right, Right. 218 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,200 But that's different, yeah. But check out James 512, which 219 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,120 says above all, my brothers and sisters, do not swear, not by 220 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,400 heaven or by earth or by anything else. 221 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,040 All you need is a simple yes or no, otherwise you will be 222 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,080 condemned, right? Yes BS and your no be no yeah. 223 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,920 Exactly. And so I mean like we don't need 224 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:08,120 to do those things. We can just in our free will 225 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:12,040 autonomous selves, we can we can let our yes be a yes or no be a 226 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,400 no. And we do not need to invoke a 227 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:21,080 higher power to answer somebody. So what about phrases like jeez 228 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:25,040 or Oh my gosh? Because those are, those are 229 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,640 shorthand for the actual word, right? 230 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,480 So what? What do we, how do we feel about 231 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,120 that? Well, I mean invoking the name 232 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:38,280 of God in particular, I, I do see a a difference there. 233 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,400 And, and I and I know pastors who disagree with me. 234 00:12:41,680 --> 00:12:43,040 OK, I have. Another I have another follow 235 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:44,080 up. Keep going with this line I. 236 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,240 Know pastors who disagree with me because I can't remember I I 237 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,520 said, Oh my gosh, in front of a pastor and he said, what did you 238 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,040 just say? And I repeated it and he was 239 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:57,400 pretty offended. And so, you know, for me in 240 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,280 particular, like I'm not invoking the name of God just 241 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,760 because it sounds similar. I am not using a holy set apart 242 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:08,960 name to express surprise or any other emotion, you know. 243 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,560 So I mean, and here's the thing, words really matter. 244 00:13:11,560 --> 00:13:12,920 How do we know that words matter? 245 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,000 Because what did God create with and tell Adam? 246 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,560 Everything was created by a word. 247 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,520 He spoke things into existence. So words matter. 248 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:26,640 So I mean, I do think, you know, a change of word is a change of 249 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:30,160 a heart position in some way. So could you swear using the 250 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:34,440 name Jehovah? You mean no, not a real name of 251 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,560 God? Right, if you want the position 252 00:13:36,560 --> 00:13:38,200 of it not being a real name of God, that's fair. 253 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,720 Game right, I absolutely take that position, thank you very 254 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,680 much. But yeah, I I wouldn't just 255 00:13:43,680 --> 00:13:46,760 because it's a stupid word. This is a. 256 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,400 Totally different episode, by the way. 257 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:50,680 Yeah, that that's a further discussion. 258 00:13:50,680 --> 00:13:53,120 Maybe we could get into that. That's a great question to 259 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:57,320 answer, I think and get into the weeds of why Jehovah is actually 260 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,560 a misnomer of of the name of God. 261 00:13:59,560 --> 00:14:02,040 Yahweh is the is people. Don't know where to put vowels. 262 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,280 It's confusing, yeah. Hebrew is a weird language. 263 00:14:04,680 --> 00:14:08,240 So, but that was I think that's largely where I land on that. 264 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,400 There was a period of time early on in my children's lives that I 265 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,480 also did not appreciate the phrase. 266 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:18,280 Oh my gosh. I find myself saying jeez, a a 267 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,880 lot. I don't know, just defense 268 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,280 mechanism, but I I like words matter. 269 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,320 But also within that I think heart matters even even when I'm 270 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:34,440 saying when I'm saying, jeez, I am not actively like, Oh, I 271 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,760 almost said Jesus, but I just said jeez, like I'm not like 272 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,680 Jesus is not thought on my mind. It's just a word that comes out, 273 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,880 which I know is not like, you can't just probably apply that 274 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,400 to anywhere. That's just the word that comes 275 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:46,280 out. There's some words that you 276 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:51,000 can't just let come out. But I, I think I'd side with you 277 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,560 on the like, Oh my gosh, it's not, it's definitely not the 278 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,680 name of God. And even if you argued that, 279 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,240 well, it's just, it's just replacing it. 280 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,120 And you're still like, you were thinking about profaning the 281 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:02,680 name of God. You just weren't saying it 282 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,000 because I think that's probably the position that that person 283 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,520 was maybe offended by is like, well, you're just, you're just 284 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,080 replacing it. Your heart is really like 285 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:10,720 profaning God. You're just not actually saying 286 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,520 the word. I think that could potentially 287 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,400 be dangerous. If you are like, no, I am 288 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,120 cursing God, but not actually using his name. 289 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,240 That's kind of the same thing to me then. 290 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,000 Well. But if I care about the name of 291 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:25,360 God in order to replace his name in that phrase, then clearly my 292 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,040 heart is in such a position that I don't want to profane him. 293 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,800 And so I again it. When you do that, I think you're 294 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,760 judging a person, a person's heart, which is something that 295 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,520 only God gets to do. Yeah. 296 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:39,320 OK. OK, did. 297 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:40,200 We did. We. 298 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:41,720 I'm sorry. I don't, I don't. 299 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,000 We don't have to go back to it because it was a whole rabbit 300 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,040 hole. Did we like decide whether or 301 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:47,400 not Adam you had belly buttons though? 302 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,120 We didn't, but if they did, they would be Guineas. 303 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:54,920 That's what we that's where we landed. 304 00:15:55,400 --> 00:16:00,200 OK, I do have your inauguration and courtroom. 305 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,960 No, you do not put your hand on the Bible. 306 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:07,120 And, and even for inauguration, it's more of a preference for 307 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,840 the incoming president. And instead of a saying, like I 308 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,920 swear, it'd be like, it's like solemn affirmation. 309 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:15,560 That's according to the Google Machine. 310 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,320 It was a tradition started by George Washington, though, that 311 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,360 most presidents have followed. No, I would be curious which 312 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,400 president didn't follow that because I mean, you know, if 313 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,800 you're, if you're working with, even if it's just culturally A 314 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:34,000 widely cultural Christian nation and that's your starting point, 315 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,400 you probably want to do that. Even if you're not a Christian 316 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:41,920 yourself, you want to probably profess or you probably want to 317 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:48,000 make this claim on, you know, the basis of an anchor, a higher 318 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,040 power, etcetera. And so I would, I would think 319 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,800 even from a political sense, not even a faith sense, you'd 320 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:58,280 probably want to do that. But maybe I'm wrong. 4 321 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:02,000 presidents in history have not sworn on the Bible to win win 322 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,040 some trivia with this knowledge. John Quincy Adams, Theodore 323 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,280 Roosevelt, Calvin Coolidge and Lyndon B Johnson did not swear 324 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:09,960 on the Bible. Pagans. 325 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,960 Wow, wow. No, actually maybe they just 326 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,920 took 512 James 512 really seriously and they said no, I'm 327 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,800 going to let my SBS and my no B&O. 328 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,920 It doesn't sound like that was the logic by any of them, but 329 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:25,599 too bad. Maybe internally, yeah. 330 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,840 So all right, Question 3 all. Right, super exciting. 331 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,800 All right, this one is for Chris Pastor. 332 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,560 Chris, how many pairs of shoes do you own? 333 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:40,400 Wow, people need to know so. People. 334 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:41,800 Need to know I. Don't. 335 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,560 I actually don't think it's a crazy number. 336 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,200 Of course you maybe addicts. Addicts and everything. 337 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,640 Addicts and everything is crazy. Just one more, OK. 338 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:52,840 Just one more What's the big deal? 339 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,120 I I needed to match that outfit. What's the big deal? 340 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,200 You know, and they're only like 50 bucks. 341 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:02,360 So currently, if I counted correctly somewhat recently when 342 00:18:02,360 --> 00:18:06,640 I was cleaning shoes, because I do that too, I think it was 19 343 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,360 and I don't, I don't feel like 19 is. 344 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:14,320 So I think my high number was 31, but that was when I was, I 345 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,720 was in college and I was in the shoe department at Von Mar. 346 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:22,560 And so we'd get crazy high level, very expensive shoes 347 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,360 return to us never worn and it's like 6 months later and now 348 00:18:26,360 --> 00:18:28,680 they're marked down to like 75% off. 349 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,160 So I would just pick them up. OK. 350 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:34,120 And is this is that number, is that like all shoes? 351 00:18:34,120 --> 00:18:37,200 Or are we talking like sneakers, kicks, 19 pairs? 352 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,880 Like is, is this, do you have a pair of nice, like, dress boots, 353 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:43,040 dress shoes, winter boots? Da, da, da, Yeah. 354 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,440 It's, it's all of them, you know, 19. 355 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:46,560 Is all of them. It's all of them. 356 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,160 So I mean, you know, if you, if you see me not for example, I 357 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,560 don't know if it, I can't imagine anybody would keep up on 358 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,320 this. That'd be crazy if you did a 359 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,440 little bit. But if you see me on, you know, 360 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,080 6 Sundays in a row and I'm never wearing the same shoes for six 361 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,000 Sundays, there's 13 more and they just didn't go with 362 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,840 whatever outfits. So that's why you're. 363 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,680 You're the I've come to know that you're the kind of person 364 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,400 that plans his outfit around the shoes he's going to wear. 365 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:11,280 Oh. Very much so. 366 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:12,520 Right? Yeah, absolutely. 367 00:19:13,120 --> 00:19:15,600 I'm the like, I decide what shoes I'm going to wear based on 368 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,280 what clothes I decide to put on. Yeah. 369 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:18,560 That's madness. I. 370 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,760 Know yeah how. Could you do it because? 371 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:21,920 It's the last thing that you put on your feet. 372 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:23,840 What are you putting shoes on and then slipping pants over 373 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,600 them like like a crazy person? I mean, have you tried? 374 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,160 Have you tried? No, because I know it's not 375 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,800 going to work. Chris, have you tried I? 376 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:37,960 Mean yes oh man, clearly you can't do that if you're a if 377 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,360 you're a skinny jeans person you can't do it it's impossible 378 00:19:40,360 --> 00:19:41,640 that's. Why Matt hasn't tried? 379 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,200 I don't. I mean I have regular what? 380 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,800 I have regular pairs of pants too that don't just don't fit 381 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,360 over shoes. Worship leaders are just skinny 382 00:19:51,360 --> 00:19:52,360 jeans. That's like that. 383 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,560 That's a real thing. And besides, how flexible is 384 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,840 your ankle, Sir? And how, how thick is the is the 385 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,960 sole of the shoes? Oh, OK, very flexible ankles. 386 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:10,720 Wow, you've been sore. I think, I think, I think Matt 387 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:15,880 needs a question. So Matt Chris has his shoes. 388 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:20,360 People need to know how many hats do you have? 389 00:20:20,360 --> 00:20:22,320 See I I. I would guess that you plan your 390 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,360 outfits around your hats. That's what I was thinking. 391 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,440 Well, OK, so I will see to that a little bit, but I also don't 392 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,200 have a whole lot of variety in my outfits. 393 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:41,040 Like if I what two colors do I wear the most? 394 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,560 Black. Yep by far. 395 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,320 Like I wear black pants half the time and when I'm not wearing 396 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,400 black pants I'm definitely wearing a black shirt. 397 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,920 I know it, it upsets me because I have a picture of you in a 398 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,720 green Under Armour polo when we went golfing once and I never 399 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,800 saw it again and I was like, that's an awesome shirt. 400 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:02,760 That shirt's gone, doesn't fit anymore. 401 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,240 Yeah, it's black and green though. 402 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,120 Like those are those are the two colors I wear the most are 403 00:21:07,120 --> 00:21:09,080 black, black and green. Sometimes I wear jeans, 404 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:15,520 sometimes I wear like brown khaki colored pants, but like 405 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:20,160 black and green. So I only have and I I still 406 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,400 have a little bit of like I need everything to match. 407 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,320 So most of the time I find hats that are in that color profile 408 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:27,560 too. I have some Grays too because 409 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:28,560 it's grey and black and that's fine. 410 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,640 Anyway. So for the most part though I do 411 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,360 kind of pick the hat based on what clothes I decided to put on 412 00:21:35,360 --> 00:21:37,520 my body. But I do have like 3 or 4 hats 413 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,000 that are the main ones. It sounds like you more so like 414 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,280 you will willingly rotate through your shoes. 415 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,080 Well, I will rotate on purpose because I because again, in 416 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,600 order to build up a decent shoe collection, here's what you have 417 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,240 to do. You have to have enough pairs of 418 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,680 shoes that you're not wearing the same ones day in and day out 419 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,520 because then they wear down really fast. 420 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,840 And so if you have more shoes than you rotate them on purpose 421 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,840 more often, therefore they last longer. 422 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,720 Therefore, when you buy new shoes, you've still got these 423 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,920 ones from four, 5-6 years ago that are still in really good 424 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,600 shape. You realize that though, like 425 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,320 overall you wear down the shoes at the same rate. 426 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,680 Like if you just burn through one pair of shoes and then 427 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,560 bought a new pair of that same shoe, like the wear rate is the 428 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,680 same. Yeah, but if I'm only wearing it 429 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,400 like once every eight days, those shoes are going to last 430 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,440 for like 4 years. Do you rotate your hats? 431 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,880 So that's, that's where I'm, that's what I'm getting to. 432 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,480 I don't intentionally rotate my hats. 433 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,360 I have some defaults that I go to. 434 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,720 I have, I, I probably have someones that I maybe they need 435 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,480 to be retired or, or given away because I just don't wear them 436 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,080 anymore. I too am down. 437 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:46,120 I, I did touch above 30 at one point at my, at my worst. 438 00:22:46,360 --> 00:22:50,440 And I have, I have a hat holder on like on the back of my door 439 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,280 and I have like I have slots that they go in. 440 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,480 It holds 18 and that's and that's like what I've tried to 441 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,200 make the upper limit for what I have but I currently have like 442 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,040 22 hats. Some some of the some of the 443 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,600 slots are double. I do have more hats than your 444 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,040 shoes right now. Yes, that is true. 445 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:06,120 Right on. OK. 446 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,040 But I only have 11 pairs of shoes so. 447 00:23:08,120 --> 00:23:11,040 Kristen, is there a particular thing that you wear more often 448 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,560 than not or a color or like, 'cause I know you guys like? 449 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,720 Crocs. We do in general as a family 450 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,040 like Crocs, but I think personally for me it would be 451 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,880 the Converse All Star Chucks. Oh yeah, yeah, that. 452 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,160 Would be mine. That's a versatile. 453 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,160 Shoe. Do you do you have multiple 454 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,000 condoses? Yeah. 455 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:28,800 Absolutely. How? 456 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,160 Many condoses do you have. I don't. 457 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,720 I'm not sure you're. Wearing a pair today you have. 458 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,360 Purple you have black well. It's yeah, it's so neutral. 459 00:23:35,360 --> 00:23:41,240 So black, grey, brown, Navy, red, purple, Galaxy. 460 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,440 Those are good. I've got Cheetah. 461 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,360 Wow. So. 462 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,320 That's so like this is blowing your mind. 463 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,360 Do you have any shoes that you have like 7 different varieties 464 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,920 of I? Mean if you count like Jordans 465 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:58,080 as like Jordans, yeah, yeah. So I mean, but that's I. 466 00:23:58,120 --> 00:24:00,920 Like air walks, but there's different, yeah, kinds of air. 467 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:01,920 Like there's different classes. How? 468 00:24:02,120 --> 00:24:04,160 Many chucks. Yeah, wow. 469 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,600 I didn't know I. Would like more though I would 470 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,200 like OK. So that we found that's 471 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,480 Kristen's, that's Kristen's. But I'll say because I have so 472 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,720 the variety piece, right? Because I get dressed and then I 473 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,240 look at, yeah, I look at what I have. 474 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,600 I'm like, all right, that's those are the shoes, right? 475 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,840 Because they match, you have enough variety to. 476 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,360 Match. If if you're listening to this, 477 00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:28,800 please come up to one of the three of us or all three of us 478 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,720 and please tell us like what is your thing that you like lean on 479 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,320 or wear the most We. All have something. 480 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,760 We all have something. You know, so please let us know 481 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,560 because I would be really curious about that. 482 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,520 We can't be the only three weirdos in this building, so 483 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,680 please let us know. I said it. 484 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,360 You did. All right. 485 00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:51,800 Let's get serious, we have a question that has been asked 486 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,920 before. So can you once again explain to 487 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:59,000 me why really bad things happen to some people, in particular 488 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,920 children? My heart breaks and I lose sleep 489 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,200 hearing about babies and children's suffering, and it's 490 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,200 at those times that I have found myself questioning the existence 491 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,680 of God. I've tried my best to listen to 492 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,080 your reasoning in the past, but I have a hard time trying to 493 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,560 reiterate to others. Wow, big one. 494 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,760 OK. There's multiple questions in 495 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,000 there. I think I think at first it's 496 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,440 going to feel a little out of order. 497 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,600 But you know, at first I want to address the heart of that. 498 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,840 You know, this person said my heart breaks, I lose sleep. 499 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:38,480 So let me address that first and say that is hard as that is for 500 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,000 you to endure emotionally. I would tell you you're on the 501 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,320 right path. And the reason why I would tell 502 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,560 you on you're on the right path is because the closer we draw to 503 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,640 Jesus, the more we see and experience people and the world 504 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,400 like he did. And so therefore, the emotion 505 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,080 that we see Jesus express most often in the New Testament 506 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,080 writings is one of weeping and sadness. 507 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,280 And so we know Jesus had fun. We know he went to the wedding 508 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:08,960 and, you know, he danced and had a good time. 509 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,600 But like the, the, the emotion that he experiences most often 510 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:17,440 is sadness. And so if you are experiencing 511 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,720 sadness as you look at people that you don't even know, but 512 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,960 you see the hurt that they endure, that must mean that 513 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,160 you're drawing closer to Jesus and his heart. 514 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,160 And so I would tell you that that's a good thing. 515 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,800 And so Christians who do not have their hearts broken, often 516 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:37,320 I would question on some level, like how closely have you drawn 517 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,200 to Jesus? Because our heart should break 518 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,040 when we see injustices in the world. 519 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,960 And that's where Christianity is supposed to be different in a 520 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,280 lot of different ways. So, so for example, like 521 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,960 sometimes we get churches that we call like, quote UN quote, 522 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,280 social justice churches, and they really focus on the needs 523 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,200 of the poor and orphans and things of that nature. 524 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,640 And I think that's a great thing to be able to do. 525 00:27:03,120 --> 00:27:06,760 And, and, and as long as that's not your only thing, right? 526 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,400 We don't want to become the social justice church where 527 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,160 we're no longer talking about sin and grace and only doing the 528 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:14,920 work and only doing those works, right? 529 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,120 We want to have our theology square. 530 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,200 But yeah, our hearts should break when we see those things 531 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,680 happening. Yeah. 532 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:27,760 And to, to be back at the kind of the initial thrust of this 533 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:33,160 question, why really bad things happen to some people, the the 534 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,240 really churchy literal answer, it's, it's the results of sin. 535 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,800 It's not God's allowance. And, and ultimately that comes 536 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:44,680 down to God creating us, allowing us to have free will. 537 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,320 Because I mean, you can take that, you can unpack this 538 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,360 question a step further in reverse. 539 00:27:52,360 --> 00:27:54,040 Why? Why would God allow us to sin 540 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,160 right? Like that's if if sin is the 541 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,320 reason the bad things happen, why would God allow us to sin? 542 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:06,280 It is that free will discussion And is he he designed us to love 543 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,920 him and be loved by him. And is that love if it's 544 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,840 compelled right, if if it's forced upon us? 545 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,520 So there there's that aspect of free will. 546 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,920 Adam and Eve chose to sin had had they brought sin into the 547 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,280 world. And yes, it it does. 548 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,840 You're right. And I hear your heart breaking 549 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,940 in this question. It it seems unfair for quote UN 550 00:28:28,940 --> 00:28:32,040 quote innocence, particularly children, because we think of 551 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,360 them as good and innocent until there's five of them in your 552 00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:36,880 house running around and making messes. 553 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:44,960 And that not like no one is innocent. 554 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,200 Jesus. Jesus was the only actual 555 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,560 innocent one, and the world crucified him for it. 556 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,760 I know that's not particularly comforting and the answer to 557 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,720 this question, but I think that is part of the answer to this 558 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:03,640 question, that it it is a sad result of the sinful world in 559 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,280 which we live. And it's it's not so much God's 560 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:13,280 allowance as our rebellion in forming those bad things, right? 561 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,320 Right. In another parts of this 562 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,280 question that I thought interesting, you know, at those 563 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,160 times I found myself questioning the existence of God. 564 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,920 To take this back a step further, every culture 565 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,160 throughout history, and by the way, I'm speaking somewhat 566 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,400 directly from Timothy Keller's book, Walking with God Through 567 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,080 Pain and Suffering. The first third of that book is 568 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:40,640 kind of a critical examination of how do cultures and how do 569 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,800 faith practices enable people to endure suffering. 570 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,880 He makes the argument, and others do too, that our Western 571 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,840 modern culture has done maybe one of the worst jobs in 572 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:58,120 history, equipping people with the ability to endure pain and 573 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,520 suffering. We have not done a great job of 574 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,840 that as a culture. We have not given reasons for 575 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,560 it. We have not given even 576 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,600 necessarily positive ways to deal with it. 577 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,960 And so I think that's a major problem for us in the West is 578 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,880 that we're not equipped to handle it. 579 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,960 We have lost what some people call the tragic view of life. 580 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,640 So if you were born in an impoverished country, you know 581 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,040 from the time that you are really able to think clearly 582 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:30,160 that life is tragic almost at every single turn. 583 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,040 Now, in the West, we're incredibly blessed, you could 584 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:39,200 say, because the vast majority of Americans never experience, 585 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,040 you know, the kind of day-to-day suffering that somebody who's 586 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,720 born in a third world country might. 587 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,280 Now, sure, we endure disease and heartache and all those kinds of 588 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,640 things that come with a broken world, but we don't really have 589 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,040 what they call a tragic view of life. 590 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:59,960 And so the fact that God does end life because of sin, 591 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,000 because, you know, his design for Adam and Eve was that they 592 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,720 would never die. That's his original design. 593 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,840 And so the fact that God does end human life at some point is 594 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:15,440 actually a gift. Now, I'm not saying I love death 595 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,680 because I don't. I think it's our greatest enemy. 596 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,440 However, the fact that God does not allow us to wallow in pain 597 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,760 and disease and suffering forever, that's a gift in some 598 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,320 ways. And, and he knows that he is 599 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,920 going to especially for those who trust and believe in him, 600 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,120 he's going to bring them in a place without any of those 601 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,960 things. The other thing I might say, and 602 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,320 I know I'm going a little bit long here, but the other thing I 603 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,360 might say is that we can't question the existence of God 604 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,080 because of suffering because let's, let's take God out of the 605 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,200 equation then let's just go ahead and do that. 606 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,800 There's no God that makes suffering completely 607 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,840 meaningless, that makes suffering A potentially just big 608 00:31:55,840 --> 00:32:00,400 painful bump in the road of our temporary unmeaningful 609 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,400 existence. And so I mean, like, if you, if 610 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,880 you take God out of the equation, then you take away any 611 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,760 possibility of hope, any possibility of meaning inside 612 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,120 that suffering and suffering. It'll do one of two things to us 613 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,800 for sure. It'll make us bitter and angry 614 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:20,000 and upset and victims. Or it'll draw us closer to God, 615 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,360 because He is the one who heals all suffering. 616 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,560 He's the one who ultimately makes all wrongs right. 617 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,000 Right, and that's how our perspective of God should be. 618 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,400 I, I see that phrase makes me question the existence of God 619 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,760 suffering makes me question the existence of God. 620 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:39,400 Well, that's we, we maybe need to tweak our there, there's 621 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,360 expectation there. There's our imagined creation of 622 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,720 what God should be within that phrase, right? 623 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:51,840 And yes, the Bible tells us that he is that he is good and he is 624 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,720 kind and he is peace. You talked about this past week. 625 00:32:55,160 --> 00:33:01,160 Is he, is he safe? No, but he's good, right? 626 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,680 So there are these aspects of God, of course, of course, the 627 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:10,240 Bible doesn't tell us that our God, like some created gods, 628 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,040 even of other religions or man made gods or whatever they are 629 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,560 rage monsters, right like that they if you don't appease them, 630 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,640 it's their position to inflict suffering upon people. 631 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,920 That's that's not the God of the Bible bringing about suffering 632 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,960 in response to ways that you've wronged him. 633 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:33,160 We we are generally afflicted by the Prince of darkness by by 634 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:38,960 Satan's control and grip on this world in temptation and sin. 635 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:44,000 But to your point, we have we have plenty of redemptive 636 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,800 aspects of this in Scripture, Romans 1212. 637 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,680 Rejoice in hope, be patient in affliction, be constant in 638 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,480 prayer. There's there's aspects of this 639 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,720 surely trial. Consider it pure joy when you 640 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,480 encounter trials and tribulations for for the testing 641 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:03,920 and endurance of your faith, right. 642 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:11,120 There's there's aspects of this that as as you were saying, God 643 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:17,040 redeems those situations to to just prove over again who he is 644 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,560 and his sovereignty over these situations. 645 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:25,880 Hard to bring that into again, a situation where we feel like 646 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,040 it's someone who who didn't deserve this or didn't or or 647 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,199 didn't have innocence in that they had innocence in this 648 00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:34,960 situation. And and yet this terrible things 649 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,400 still just happened to them. There was there was an incident 650 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,840 this past week, I think in Florida where a a semi driver 651 00:34:42,679 --> 00:34:46,199 just didn't even didn't even hit the brakes There there was a, a, 652 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,920 a traffic jam happening and didn't even hit the brakes and 653 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,320 just smoke this car with this, with this family of family of 654 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,960 three in it. And yeah, like, why, why does 655 00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:04,160 that random stuff happen? It's a world, it's a world 656 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,520 afflicted in sin. It's not correct. 657 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,520 But we have that hope in death and don't hear what I'm not 658 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,320 saying that we shouldn't we shouldn't be pursuing death. 659 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,800 We have purpose and works and and our our purpose is to love 660 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,680 and glorify God in this life on earth. 661 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,360 But we also have the hope and promise that one day we will be 662 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,760 made new. One day we for those that are 663 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,880 found in Jesus Christ, there will be no more suffering, no 664 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,480 more crying, no pain, right. Like that's, that's what God's 665 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,960 design was. We screwed it up. 666 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,360 Jesus came to put us back, to give us the hope of being put 667 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,520 back in God's right design, clothed in his righteousness. 668 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:43,720 And that's the hope that we have. 669 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:49,440 And you know, to the word Y is powerful. 670 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,440 WHY? It's it's extremely powerful and 671 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,680 it can raise a lot of doubts and a lot of questions. 672 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,720 And one of the things I've heard, which I think is really 673 00:35:57,720 --> 00:36:00,200 great, is I need to doubt my doubts. 674 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:02,960 Yeah. I need to doubt my doubts. 675 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:07,120 But you know, along this other line, I I watched a documentary 676 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:11,400 recently and it was about a comedian and you know, he, he 677 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,320 thought himself, he believed himself to be a believer, but 678 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,000 lived a very hard, you know, kind of rock star life. 679 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,160 And So what happens is he had been in drugs and alcohol and 680 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,920 all this kind of stuff, and he had just really, honestly 681 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:30,360 sobered up really pretty well like 3 months before his death. 682 00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:32,400 And So what happens? He's on the road, he's 683 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,880 travelling with his agent and they're in a car and a drunk 684 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,720 driver hits them head on, head on. 685 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,680 And so it's reported from the agent who was in the car, who 686 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,440 lived. He got out of the car and this 687 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:52,040 comedian, he also kind of was able to crawl out of the car and 688 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,520 his head, the comedian's head was laying in his friend's lap. 689 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,040 And he's like, you're going to be OK, You're going to be OK, 690 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,000 We're going to make it. We're going to get an ambience, 691 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,160 blah, blah. And apparently this comedian was 692 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,880 having a conversation with somebody he could see that his 693 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,520 agent couldn't see. And he just kept on saying, why 694 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,400 now? Why now? 695 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,520 And the, the comedian's trying to answer him, but he or the, 696 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,040 the agent's trying to answer him. 697 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,360 But he, he quickly realizes he's not talking to me. 698 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,640 He's talking to somebody I can't see. 699 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,880 And so he asks why now several times. 700 00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:27,080 And then there's like a, a three or four second pause and he 701 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:31,360 goes, oh, I see. And then he died. 702 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,000 He died right there in the guy's arms. 703 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:39,480 And so here's the thing, we ask the question why when it comes 704 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,360 to suffering and we don't always get the answer on this side of 705 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,600 heaven. But when it behooves us to have 706 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,800 the answer, God always gives it. God always gives it. 707 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:56,160 And I, I do think that at the moment that we had the, the 708 00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:02,160 millisecond that we Passover into heaven with the Lord, all 709 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,360 those why questions, they're instantaneously answered in 710 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:09,920 seeing his glory, in seeing that his plan is perfect. 711 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,720 And that sounds terrible, especially when you're talking 712 00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:15,120 about children who suffer with cancer and things like that. 713 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,720 But God still has a purpose. God still has a plan. 714 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:25,560 And ultimately, that plan always leads to glory and peace and joy 715 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,520 for those who trust and believe in Him. 716 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:34,440 Yeah, and that's to what you're saying in in doubting your 717 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,240 doubts first, Peter 315 in your hearts, honor Christ the Lord is 718 00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:40,040 holy, always being prepared to make a defense. 719 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,760 Anyone who asks you for the reason or the hope that you 720 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,680 have, you can apply that probably to a variety of 721 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,040 situations. But I I think especially in this 722 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,640 one, questioning the existence of God, especially like you see 723 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,880 these horrific things. Why would you still hold on to 724 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,080 this hope And I and I think that's the the doubting your 725 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,680 doubts sort of part sort of part of that. 726 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:05,320 So you mentioned the The Walking with God through pain and 727 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,320 suffering resource from Timothy Keller brought up the the 728 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:12,680 problem of pain by CS Lewis. Also also good resources if 729 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:17,440 yeah, if any of you need book suggestions or deeper things, 730 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,800 extra biblical things that are still rooted in biblical truths. 731 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,080 Yeah, approach me or Pastor Chris and we can we can give you 732 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,520 those recommendations too. But those both those resources 733 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,440 are great places to start. They're excellent. 734 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,560 All right. All right. 735 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,120 Well, here in Iowa, the weather is changing, so sometimes it's 736 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,000 hot and sometimes it's not. So. 737 00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:42,120 So our question next is hot or iced coffee? 738 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:50,880 So, OK, you're absolutely right. It depends on the weather like 739 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:51,360 that. Does it? 740 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:52,480 Though. Does it though? 741 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:58,800 Yes, 100%. I'm not going to have so only 742 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,720 from the I could drink hot coffee anytime. 743 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,520 I'm not going to drink iced coffee on Christmas Day. 744 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:06,520 Oh. Probably not. 745 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:10,240 Going to there reaches a point where it's cold enough outside 746 00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:13,400 where cold coffee is off the table. 747 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,480 I don't think there's a point that it's hot enough outside 748 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,200 that hot coffee is off the table though. 749 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,160 Oh I would disagree with that really. 750 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,520 Like on a like on a pool day, I'm not drinking a hot coffee. 751 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,520 If I'm walking into the air conditioned office here at 752 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,320 church though, I'm probably going to be fine with having a 753 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,160 hot cup of coffee. I'm not drinking a mug of coffee 754 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,160 sitting next to the pool. Yeah, I'll give you that. 755 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,240 But but. Also you like you wear pants 756 00:40:39,240 --> 00:40:42,600 when it's 100° out. OK, so. 757 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,040 I don't know, I'm going to go to Chris. 758 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,880 I feel like I need another another opinion. 759 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,200 Oh gosh. Shorts expose my flexible 760 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:50,040 ankles. I don't. 761 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:57,120 I have to wear pants. I brought it back. 762 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,800 Matt needs some high tops. Flexible ankles? 763 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,320 Put that on a resume, please. Why should we hire you? 764 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,560 Well, I have incredibly flexible ankles, Sir. 765 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:10,600 Just felt like we needed to loop back to. 766 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:16,200 That So were I all right, Chris? So if it's if it's crazy hot 767 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,400 outside, are you still drinking hot coffee? 768 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,520 I'm still running through. I'm still running through the 769 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,280 McDonald's drive through getting my $0.99 hot coffee. 770 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,240 I'm doing that. Is the iced coffee not $0.99? 771 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,840 It probably can be, but I never buy it. 772 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,280 I just I just coffee. It's hot bean water. 773 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,120 It's hot bean water. So that's what it is. 774 00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:39,360 Therefore it should be hot. So that's an interesting 775 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:43,640 perspective because I think there's this seems like a really 776 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,360 innocent, innocent yes or no question. 777 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,480 It's a lot more complicated than that because the weather 778 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,320 happens. I also it's interesting to me 779 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:58,440 that you're willing to settle for hot bean water like I The 780 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,800 quality of coffee also matters to me, you say? 781 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,000 McDonald's doesn't have high quality coffee, Sir. 782 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,720 Excuse me, Sir, I. Didn't say that you just said 783 00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:11,600 that, but I'm just saying if it's like a cup of Folgers and 784 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,480 the answer is hotter iced coffee, it's C neither. 785 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,360 Oh my God, sorry I just offended you're. 786 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:26,840 Clearly not as addicted as I am. I just I have OK, nevermind that 787 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:31,320 one OK filter needed needed a certain quality like I'm not I'm 788 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,360 not taking like the street grade stuff. 789 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:35,200 I'm not. I'm not. 790 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,440 That's a little bougie with. His coffee I love. 791 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:38,840 Lid. He's a lot I'm. 792 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,120 A lot bougie. I worked in a coffee shop for 793 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:42,680 eight years though too. Like I don't. 794 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,600 He knows how to make bean water I. 795 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,800 Know how to make bean water so that it's not bean water. 796 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,560 Yeah, it's it's art. Chris, it's not you. 797 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,320 You make art with colors on paper. 798 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,000 I make art. I make art with bean water. 799 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,360 I do drawings. Hey, Chris, did you do any 800 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,000 finger paintings today? Oh, my goodness. 801 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:08,040 Gosh, that's really mean that. Again, you're you're like self 802 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,560 dunking over there and blaming me. 803 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,960 I. Know, but that's that's that's 804 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,640 what we do. We always blame other people for 805 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,880 our own shortcomings. It's kind of the whole atom 806 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,480 thing, so. Hot or iced coffee, all things 807 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,400 all things being equal, so like conditions are perfect. 808 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:29,160 It's a fall day like today could go either way hot, hot or iced 809 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,960 coffee. What's your what's your favorite 810 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:39,200 chain like big box chain coffee, Starbucks, Caribou, Dunn 811 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:40,880 brothers. I don't. 812 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,120 I don't care about any of them, honestly. 813 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:44,400 McDonald's. It's McDonald's. 814 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,120 Because I can get a cup of coffee for a dollar. 815 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,160 We'll keep it. I'm cheap. 816 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,080 So there you go. Sorry, I need to phrase this 817 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:52,560 question in the language you understand. 818 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,600 Chris, No compute. Right after this episode, we go 819 00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:01,680 to the McDonald's drive through. It's about 60° outside and the 820 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,880 sun is shining. Hotter iced coffee, hot. 821 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,160 All day hot. You don't even have to think 822 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:08,720 about it. No Kristen iced. 823 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:15,920 OK, I think today based on the sun shining, I think I would be 824 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,520 iced. I also. 825 00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:22,120 I also associate iced coffee with not really coffee. 826 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,800 It's like a splash of coffee and a bunch of other junk in it. 827 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,160 I agree because how many people drink straight up cold black 828 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:29,800 coffee? Matt does I. 829 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,520 I drink cold brew so that's and that's the other bougie part of 830 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:33,640 it. I don't drink iced coffee. 831 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,600 I will drink cold brew coffee. If you brew the coffee hot and 832 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,240 pour it over ice, that's not iced coffee. 833 00:44:38,240 --> 00:44:41,920 You need to brew it cold. Then I would drink. 834 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,520 Water, so like that, right? So that's the other aspect of it 835 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,760 that I think is lost in the nuance of this question. 836 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,600 And this person was just looking for a really straightforward 837 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:49,520 answer. And I've made it really 838 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:50,840 complicated because that's what I do. 839 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:55,240 But that would be my answer. Iced, but cold brew. 840 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,680 I'm probably not going to get iced coffee from McDonald's. 841 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,960 God bless. We're going to go ahead and move 842 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,880 on. Before I dig myself a deeper oh. 843 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,320 No, we got another one did McDonald's. 844 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:10,000 We got another one some more. Yeah, more bougie. 845 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,720 So off of drinks and onto food. Oh gosh. 846 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:18,640 So we know you guys like to eat for different reasons. 847 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,840 Go ahead and check out our our website. 848 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:22,920 We like to eat for different reasons. 849 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,040 Yeah, check out, check out your BIOS. 850 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,800 You both, you both reference food at the very end of your 851 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:29,920 bio. So go check that out. 852 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,160 Did I really? We're looking at whether you 853 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,200 would choose Monarch or Bar Louie. 854 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,640 OK, she's absolutely right. The closing sentence for both of 855 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,680 our BIOS. Your last thought of things you 856 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,600 enjoy is and eating pretty much any food that's put in front of 857 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,240 me. My final thought of the things 858 00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:51,680 that I enjoy is exploring new recipes or restaurants for 859 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,640 really good food. Oh wow, so. 860 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,600 Matt's going to answer based on good we do have. 861 00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:57,880 Different answers to this question. 862 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,760 But you know what? You know what I can say against 863 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,480 you, Sir? I hold this against you, Matt 864 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,240 Schweitzer. You ate day old chicken Nuggets 865 00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:09,320 on a church stage. Therefore, you can rarely take 866 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,080 the higher ground with that experience. 867 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,000 Chicken Nuggets. Chicken Nuggets are infinite, 868 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:15,960 man. It's like Thanos. 869 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:20,240 I am inevitable. That's because chicken Nuggets 870 00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:23,480 from McDonald's, probably, I don't know what they're made of, 871 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,760 but they're not chicken. They're tasty, but I don't know 872 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,520 what they're made of. And the fact that you can eat 873 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:31,600 them a day later cold and not like get sick, that'll tell you 874 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,120 something. They figured it out. 875 00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:34,680 They. Did. 876 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,040 Can survive survive like it's like a nuclear war with chicken 877 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,640 Nuggets it's. Like a 40 year old MRE, you can 878 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,000 just eat chicken Nuggets. And I think the same thing about 879 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,840 Twinkies. All the preservatives. 880 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,120 There's more preservatives than there is anything else in those 881 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,400 things and I love them. I'm hoping that the 882 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,800 preservatives in there preserve me and you're. 883 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,400 Mostly plastic at this point, all right. 884 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,720 All right, I I take your point, but what? 885 00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:03,800 What chicken nugget is better than a Mcnugget? 886 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:09,040 There is not. It is the bougiest of chicken 887 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,080 Nuggets. Maybe Chick-fil-A in their 888 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,320 little chicken nugget. They got the dipping sauces. 889 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:19,600 They have the sauces, but if you take a Mcnugget and put it in 890 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,480 Chick-fil-A sauce, then you've merged worlds of the best 891 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,920 things. My mind might not be able to 892 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:30,360 take that. I'm just saying yes I ate it a 893 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,720 day old cold but. Still good? 894 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,920 Still good. You're going to not if I ate the 895 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:42,240 Wagyu beef steak from from Monarch cold day old the next 896 00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:45,840 day while giving a sermon. You can't tell me that's not 897 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:46,960 high quality meat. Oh. 898 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,760 That's great. I would like to see that put 899 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:51,960 that in challenge. Accepted. 900 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,760 Yes. Put that in your cap for later 901 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,760 because I I need to see that. Well, getting to these 902 00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,360 particular restaurants. So Monarch or Bar Lou, Bar Louie 903 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,320 is not something that we have locally, I don't believe. 904 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,800 No, the closest one, I think there might be one in 905 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,440 Minneapolis, Saint Paul. There's definitely some in 906 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,680 Chicago, but. I'll tell you what man, I love, 907 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,320 and I've been to both a lot, but I love Monarch so much. 908 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,200 I think they've I've, I've had a lot of different things from 909 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:16,560 there. I've never had anything that 910 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,960 wasn't super high quality, even down to their cheeseburgers. 911 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,000 Good gravy. I mean, it's just excellent 912 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,040 food. Yeah. 913 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,480 And again, this question, not to break it down entirely, these 914 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,840 are two different, I would say categories of restaurants. 915 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:36,360 Monarch is fine dining. Bar Louie is bar food. 916 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:40,920 It's, it's Applebee's. It's it's like elevated 917 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,760 Applebee's, but it's, it's within the same style of food as 918 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,240 Applebee's. I can't go to Bar Louie and get 919 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:51,360 a Wagyu beef steak or a beef Wellington or even like Creme 920 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,800 brulee or date bread pudding like that. 921 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,320 That's just, it's the best thing in the world, Kristen. 922 00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,360 It is. It's so good. 923 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,880 Better date pudding that did. Turn me on to that. 924 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,120 And he's right. It's amazing. 925 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:08,240 So, so that comes down to I, I love, I love them both. 926 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,920 Kind of depends on the day and kind of depends on because 927 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:12,800 you're going to spend more at Monarch than you are at Bar 928 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,920 Louie too, like just pretty easily. 929 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,920 So just as a quality of food, if I, if I want to go somewhere to 930 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:24,840 get the best food, it's Monarch. Still love Bar Louie for what it 931 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:29,600 is, but as far as like culinary excellence, it's Monarch. 932 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,880 You have the name bar in your restaurant name, therefore it's 933 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,880 probably not going to be as high level as what I would want if I 934 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,160 want something really really good. 935 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,680 Yeah, sure. I bet. 936 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,000 I bet there's a Michelin star restaurant somewhere that has 937 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,920 the name Bar in their name. So like, I don't, I don't want 938 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,680 to say that's like that's very misnomer, but you're, I mean, 939 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,480 yeah, it's bar food. That's why it's called Bar 940 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,080 Louie. If you, if you can wear 941 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:56,960 sweatpants to a restaurant and not feel awkward about it, it's 942 00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,680 it's also not the restaurant I want to go to. 943 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,080 If I want something really good and enjoyable. 944 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:06,560 Like if you, I would be shocked if somebody showed up to Monarch 945 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,040 in like their workout clothes, I'd be like, what? 946 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,120 I'm not trying to be the elitist, but like, dude, what 947 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:13,400 are you? What are you doing here? 948 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,640 You're kind of like actually bringing this place down a 949 00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,840 little bit. If you don't know Bar Louie, the 950 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,480 closest thing I think we have to it is probably Granite City. 951 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,400 I think that would be comparable to Bar Louie in the in the Quad 952 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,680 Cities here, so. Bar Louie is in the Chicago 953 00:50:27,720 --> 00:50:29,720 area, OK. And I would honestly. 954 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,440 So in that same realm, I think I would still choose Bar Louie 955 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:36,440 like over Granite City, but that's they would be more peers 956 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,320 than like Monarch and Bar Louie. So yes, yeah. 957 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,720 All right, I've got one that's super scary. 958 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:44,520 Super scary. OK. 959 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:48,200 Guys, what are your thoughts on capris? 960 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,360 It's just. They're not shorts and they're 961 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,400 not pants. Oh no, it. 962 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,120 Just says thoughts on capris all right. 963 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,960 First thought is I shouldn't wear them. 964 00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,440 They will also expose my flexible ankles. 965 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:04,600 Like, too much. That's why you're not going to 966 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:05,480 wear capris. Yeah. 967 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:09,720 But they'd like highlight my full boost calves too. 968 00:51:09,720 --> 00:51:13,200 Like I just you're. Saying a lot of not normally 969 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,640 said words right now. The fit would be really weird on 970 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,640 on my legs and I don't think anyone needs to see that. 971 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:25,520 So Manpre's no, not a fan. And your husband, Kristen, 972 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:30,240 where's he makes them like he he. 973 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,880 Makes them he. Pulls up like the joggers or the 974 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,280 sweatpants to mid calf and like oh really? 975 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,720 Yeah, he's showing off the ankles and the calves, right? 976 00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,600 His ankles. Inflexible ankles. 977 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,080 Yeah, his really are. He's busting them a bunch of 978 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:45,920 times. I was there for some of them, 979 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,600 Yeah. Real bad, yeah. 980 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:57,600 So man, pre no, not a fan and honestly I've never I think I'm 981 00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,760 just largely indifferent on Caprice I. 982 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,680 Just don't understand the functionality of them. 983 00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:08,440 Like I need my calves and my ankles to feel air but nothing 984 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,600 else. Like is that keeping me cooler? 985 00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,640 I don't know is it? Maybe it is. 986 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:21,000 Maybe, I mean your feet covering your feet traps heat, right? 987 00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,640 Yeah. So I don't know, maybe it is a 988 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,800 but yeah, I I don't know. I I think I'm largely 989 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,800 indifferent on capris. I don't love them because I've 990 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:33,000 also like man priest definitely know, but I've also and I'm and 991 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,920 I'm married, obviously, but I've never, I've never seen a, a 992 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,680 woman walking around me like, you know what she's got working 993 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:44,960 for those capris or even or even or even like Emily, you know 994 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,800 what you need to get? We need to get some capris on 995 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,240 you. Like, I don't know, I just never 996 00:52:51,240 --> 00:52:53,920 really had that. Thought, but the problem is we 997 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,160 always go to extremes. So, you know, I, I, I had this 998 00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,480 frustration, you know, my daughter had this frustration 999 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,200 because it's like we don't want her wearing one or two inch 1000 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,680 inseam shorts. But then again, there wasn't the 1001 00:53:05,720 --> 00:53:09,680 in between of like, oh, let's just get shorts like an inch or 1002 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,000 two above your knees. No, it was either capris or it 1003 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:17,080 was, I can see more than anybody should be seen right now. 1004 00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:21,960 And yeah, and I, and so, I mean, I, I feel the pain of that for 1005 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,120 her and others who are like, come on, I, I, I don't have an 1006 00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:26,600 in between here. This isn't fair. 1007 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:31,640 And men have all sorts of inbetweens, but women seem to 1008 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,440 not have that option, which I think is really unfortunate. 1009 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:40,200 All right, as your daughters get older, maybe you'll find that 1010 00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:41,920 fun out for yourself. Yeah. 1011 00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,520 And like, I guess my young, yeah, younger daughters, they do 1012 00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:50,480 have a few pairs of like whatever the jumpers, right, of 1013 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:54,640 those like the overall, Well, no, OK, what's the one that has 1014 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,560 like? Is it a jumper? 1015 00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,560 You'd you'd wear like AT shirt under it, but it's got like the 1016 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,960 spaghetti straps and then kind of the front cover all yeah. 1017 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,360 Kind of like the but it's. All one piece. 1018 00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,680 Yeah, it's. All one piece, but the pants 1019 00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:11,720 part is really like capris. I don't know they're into that 1020 00:54:11,720 --> 00:54:13,640 and I get that. But I also like, again, what's 1021 00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,440 the functionality of it? I really, I want my calves to 1022 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,920 breathe, my calves and ankles really. 1023 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:23,120 Is that a problem? Do you want capris, Kristen? 1024 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,320 I used to. My problem is I'm short. 1025 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,600 Capris are pants for you. I mean, it could be shorts, but 1026 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,320 they're capris. I mean, it's yeah, capris are 1027 00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,720 just bad for somebody like me. Like regular women could put on 1028 00:54:37,720 --> 00:54:40,680 the capris, but if I put them on, they're just pants, so. 1029 00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,520 What do you think the height should like? 1030 00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,800 Are we talking like you should be at least 5455? 1031 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,360 Ratios. Man ratios. 1032 00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,360 Yeah, like. You kind of got to have long 1033 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,960 legs to pull off capris, which is probably why Derek does it. 1034 00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,280 He does look good in capris. Oh, all right, Kristen love. 1035 00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:57,960 All right. Kristen gave her 2000. 1036 00:54:58,120 --> 00:54:59,200 All right. Kristen has. 1037 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,080 Been like, you know who looks good in the breeze? 1038 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:02,280 My husband. Nope. 1039 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:02,840 Watch. Out. 1040 00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,040 Nope. I think it's time to move on, 1041 00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:07,120 friends I. Agree. 1042 00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:12,280 All right, Capris, all right, all right. 1043 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:16,560 It's a fact that Jesus and his disciples cast out demons. 1044 00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:21,320 Did demons just disappear from the world, or are they still 1045 00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,320 prevalent today? And if they are still present, 1046 00:55:24,720 --> 00:55:28,600 how would we recognize them and what would we do about them? 1047 00:55:29,240 --> 00:55:31,280 Multi point question, but it's a good one. 1048 00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,880 So yeah, do did demons disappear? 1049 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,480 Absolutely not. You know, the same spiritual 1050 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,720 realm that Jesus walked around in on this earth is the same one 1051 00:55:41,720 --> 00:55:44,840 that we walk in. And Satan is still very much 1052 00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,560 present in our world today. Hence the fact that awful, 1053 00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:51,200 terrible, yeah, just awful and terrible things happen all the 1054 00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,040 time. That is a product of sin and his 1055 00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,360 inclusion into this world. So yeah, I they're definitely 1056 00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:02,760 still here as far as how would we recognize that? 1057 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:07,080 And I'll, I'll get into a story in a second maybe about my 1058 00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,920 experience with that, but not my personal. 1059 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,720 I have not been demon possessed. But anyway. 1060 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:17,800 So if you go to 1st John 1/4, it says this and start in verse 1061 00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,880 one, beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the 1062 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,240 spirits to see whether they are from God. 1063 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,880 For many false prophets have gone out into the world by this, 1064 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,920 you know, the Spirit of God. OK, this is important. 1065 00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:32,920 By this, you know, the Spirit of God, every spirit that confesses 1066 00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:37,400 Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, and every 1067 00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:42,200 spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. 1068 00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:47,160 OK, there's the litmus test. So short story and I won't get 1069 00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,800 into all the details, but at a different call in a different 1070 00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:55,640 state, far, far away for me, there was a man who was 1071 00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,680 absolutely, most certainly demon possessed. 1072 00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:02,600 And so the other pastor and I, he was highly sensitive to those 1073 00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,920 kinds of things and had done several exorcisms before I had 1074 00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:10,400 even shown up. And So what we did with this man 1075 00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:14,640 was we got him into a room with elders and prior to that day, 1076 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,760 because it was planned, we all fasted and prayed. 1077 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,960 And that was an incredibly. And the other pastor told me, 1078 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:24,160 like you, you need to be spiritually prepared for this 1079 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:28,680 moment because when this thing starts to come to the surface, 1080 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,400 as it were, like you don't want it. 1081 00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,560 And, and I think these are the words he used, you don't want it 1082 00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,440 to be able to attach to you because you have unconfessed 1083 00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,680 sin. And so I was like, OK, so I took 1084 00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,760 that really seriously. And as this man is in the room, 1085 00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:48,920 we read these verses, and these verses brought out exactly 1086 00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,600 whatever that thing was. And it was it. 1087 00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,360 I'm telling you, I knew this guy. 1088 00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:57,000 This was not him. This was otherworldly stuff. 1089 00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:01,440 He was almost climbing the walls to get away from the Word of 1090 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:02,600 God. It was crazy. 1091 00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:04,960 He was in because we'd positioned him in the corner of 1092 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:08,920 the room at this table so that he could not escape. 1093 00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:13,200 And so, you know, as the demon kind of comes to the surface and 1094 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:17,240 we're addressing the demon in real time again, if I hadn't 1095 00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:21,640 lived it, I may not believe it, but he starts like scratching at 1096 00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,080 the walls and backing up and coming into the wall. 1097 00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:27,080 And we're just pounding this thing with the word of God and 1098 00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,600 with prayer. Five of us in the room all 1099 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,040 simultaneously just working on this thing. 1100 00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,880 And eventually what happens is the guy fell back into his seat 1101 00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:37,200 and it looked like he fell asleep. 1102 00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,320 Crazy thing, right? Looked like you fell asleep. 1103 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:45,760 And so then we just waited and, you know, we start talking to 1104 00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:49,080 again to him again and he wakes up and he said he's himself. 1105 00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:53,280 He's himself. And you're like, what just 1106 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,120 happened? And again, my first time 1107 00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,400 experiencing that. But the other pastor working 1108 00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,880 with me, he was like, Yep, that's exactly how that works. 1109 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:05,160 And it was, it was just, it was a really unique experience. 1110 00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:08,920 And I never again, from that day forward, ever doubted that there 1111 00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:12,560 are spiritual forces in this world that can attach themselves 1112 00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:17,560 to us. Yeah, and we are yes, we are 1113 00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:21,480 living in a world that which there are dark forces, spiritual 1114 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:26,200 forces, every good and perfect gift is from above, right coming 1115 00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:27,520 down from the Father of heavenly lights. 1116 00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:31,440 So in discerning the spirit, those things, I think you even 1117 00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,360 as we could relate it to a question we had in one of the 1118 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:38,480 previous episodes of how do we discern like even God's thoughts 1119 00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,320 from my thoughts or or the leanings of this. 1120 00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,320 Well, that's that's the witness. Does it? 1121 00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:44,280 Does it sound like God? Does it sound like the voice of 1122 00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:47,640 God that we have in the Bible? If it's not, it might not 1123 00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:52,240 directly be a demon necessarily, but it's certainly not from God 1124 00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:55,320 at the very least, And it might be it it it might be an evil 1125 00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:59,600 force, a dark force, a dark spirit affecting you in. 1126 01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:04,640 In the world here so and and Jesus in the New Testament he 1127 01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,400 gives instructions to his disciples he gives them 1128 01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:11,000 authority to cast out and drive out demons in his name. 1129 01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:18,520 That's in Mark 1617 and then in Acts 1618 again there's there's 1130 01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:24,600 incidents of the early church the apostles driving out spirits 1131 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,600 in in Jesus name. So that's what we that's what we 1132 01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:31,560 do, right? We, we command, we, we confess, 1133 01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:37,440 we, we bring out wrongdoing, we bring out any finger hold that 1134 01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,280 that the evil one could have in this person's life, right. 1135 01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:44,120 And and in the name of Jesus, proclaim grace and forgiveness 1136 01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:47,280 and, and cast out this, this spirit in the name of Jesus, 1137 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,560 right. James 47 resist the devil and he 1138 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,520 will flee from you. That's, that's both of these 1139 01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:55,120 things, purging, purging the sin problem, confessing the sin 1140 01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,040 problem. And also like not pursuing those 1141 01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:00,080 things, not going back to those dark things that kind of got 1142 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:01,880 that person in that situation to begin with, right? 1143 01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:04,840 One of the interesting things that we see with demon 1144 01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:09,320 possession is that some people, although they may not be aware 1145 01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,960 of the particular spiritual implications of demon 1146 01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:16,240 possession, sometimes they don't really want it gone. 1147 01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:17,760 Why? Why would that be? 1148 01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:21,600 Well, the reason why that might be is because there are things 1149 01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,960 about our natural personalities that might be really pretty 1150 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,480 subdued. And maybe, maybe you're the 1151 01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:32,400 typical doormat for people and this power that you have, this 1152 01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:35,520 evil power that you have, this otherworldly personality that 1153 01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,840 can come out of you. That thing is powerful and it is 1154 01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:43,840 aggressive and it is going to do what you and yourself cannot do. 1155 01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:46,720 So one of the interesting things that we see in in modern 1156 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:50,160 psychology is people get diagnosed with bipolar disease a 1157 01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:53,720 lot. And certainly, certainly not 1158 01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:57,360 every single one of those cases is demon possession, but some of 1159 01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:58,440 them. Are some. 1160 01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:02,200 Of them are absolutely and so I mean, you know, to discern that 1161 01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,920 I I think you need more than pop psychology. 1162 01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:07,600 You need that spiritual background to be able to work 1163 01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,440 through that. And I, and again, first John 1/4 1164 01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:14,920 is just a fantastic resource for us to be able to start to 1165 01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,160 discern that because you have that conversation with that 1166 01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,160 person and you say, what is your confession? 1167 01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:24,240 And inside that confession? Because if, if they're calling 1168 01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:26,080 themselves a Christian and they're at your church, whatever 1169 01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:30,200 and this guy was, they will not be able to do it. 1170 01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:34,880 They can't because that that power of evil that resides 1171 01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:38,880 within them will not allow that confession to come out. 1172 01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:40,440 Can't. Self exercise. 1173 01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:44,560 Cannot that is that is kind of the the litmus test to see like 1174 01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:48,360 what are we dealing with here? And so that litmus test was used 1175 01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:53,640 in this case and it proved to be highly helpful and and and it 1176 01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,480 was a great resource to like what are we dealing with here? 1177 01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:01,360 Yeah, and it's not to scare or alarm all y'all, but if he's in 1178 01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,320 612, Paul writes very plainly. For our struggle is not against 1179 01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,480 flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, 1180 01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:08,760 against the powers of this Dark World and against the spiritual 1181 01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:10,640 forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 1182 01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:13,200 Like they're, it is. It's a real thing. 1183 01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:16,200 It it, it happens. It's something we should pray 1184 01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:18,880 protection against, pray confession for. 1185 01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:23,000 And to your point, maybe even need to intervene in, in the 1186 01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,960 lives of those that it is truly afflicting. 1187 01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:27,920 And that's definitely a possibility. 1188 01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,360 Yep, we need to pray through those things. 1189 01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:35,160 We need to fast in those things. We, you know, 'cause even Jesus 1190 01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:38,520 talks about, well, this kind of demon can only be removed with 1191 01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,360 prayer and fasting, you know, And so you get that from him 1192 01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,920 and, and I think those are important things, yeah. 1193 01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:49,640 All right, what do we have next? We got time for a good one. 1194 01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:55,640 More sure, All right, conspiracy theories you believe in are some 1195 01:03:55,640 --> 01:04:00,120 cool ones that you've heard of. And we kind of read these 1196 01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:05,200 questions earlier and yeah, we had some some serious thoughts 1197 01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:10,000 and something. It's it's David this this 1198 01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:11,880 question. I could dive down so many rabbit 1199 01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:16,000 holes with this question and this podcast is, is not the time 1200 01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:19,320 or place to do it. So we are I, I would love to 1201 01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:21,760 have private conversations maybe about some more conspiracy 1202 01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:23,520 theories that I I think are crazy. 1203 01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:26,520 The one that we're going to talk to you about that I kind of blew 1204 01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:33,000 your guys minds with really air air fryers are just mini ovens 1205 01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:34,840 that's. A hurtful thing to say because 1206 01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:37,840 my fish comes out way better out of the air fryer than it does 1207 01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:39,280 the oven. How dare you, Sir? 1208 01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:42,520 Because it's a small concentrated oven. 1209 01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:46,920 If you put an entire tuna in your oven, it would probably 1210 01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:50,000 come out like pretty good and crispy like you like it's it's a 1211 01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:51,960 ratio thing. There's too much air. 1212 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:53,480 Fries it. Yes, it. 1213 01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:56,000 Fries with air. But that with air but. 1214 01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,920 That same little tiny fish filet in your giant oven? 1215 01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,720 There's too much air. It's it's the the air to meat 1216 01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,320 ratio in the air fryer is what makes it so good. 1217 01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:09,080 If you put enough meat in the oven, it'll all come out like it 1218 01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:10,680 does in the air fryer. The. 1219 01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,000 Air fryer is totally different. I can hear the wind whipping 1220 01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,840 around in there when it's working and I'm like, oh, fry 1221 01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:17,960 that fish air. You're doing such a good job, 1222 01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:20,080 OK? If it's ratios, then like how 1223 01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:23,320 many chicken Nuggets would I have to put in the air fryer 1224 01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,560 versus the oven for it to be the same? 1225 01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:26,720 It's a. Simple math equation. 1226 01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,560 We just need to find out like the surface area and volume of 1227 01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:31,840 the air fryer. Ratio into the. 1228 01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:33,880 Oven. Okay, so that's where a 1229 01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,680 convection oven comes in, and you guys did not enjoy when I 1230 01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:38,080 brought that word into the conversation. 1231 01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:40,040 But a convection oven? Not a real word as a film. 1232 01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:42,200 It's not a real oven. It's not. 1233 01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:45,040 Even that bougie, it's just it's a normal functioning thing. 1234 01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:49,040 A connection oven has a fan in it that circulates the air, 1235 01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:50,880 which is all the air fryer has in it. 1236 01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:54,040 It just has a fan that circulates the air in there. 1237 01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:57,320 So it's a simple math equation of the volume and surface area 1238 01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:03,160 of the air fryer relative. So say your your cubic volume of 1239 01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:09,240 your air fryer is is 1 cubic foot OK, And you put 10 chicken 1240 01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:13,560 Nuggets in there. If the the cubic volume of your 1241 01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:17,480 oven is 12 square feet, how many chicken Nuggets should you put 1242 01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:22,160 in there? If 10 is perfect with one, 120 1243 01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:28,680 is perfect with 12. So really, if I'm going to use 1244 01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:33,040 an oven, a convection oven, I need a lot of friends if I'm 1245 01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:34,880 going to have the good chicken Nuggets. 1246 01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:38,360 If you want that quality of chicken Nuggets, yeah, I think I 1247 01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:39,280 think you do. Here's. 1248 01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:42,800 My argument though, OK I have accidentally turned my oven to 1249 01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:46,320 convection mode a couple times on accident for sure because I 1250 01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:47,400 was like I don't even know what that is. 1251 01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:48,960 You should probably. Just mostly use it that way. 1252 01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:53,040 Well, but but The thing is like it burned everything whereas 1253 01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:55,680 with an air fryer often. In a convection oven, you need 1254 01:06:55,680 --> 01:07:00,200 to do it at a lesser temperature than than the regular baking. 1255 01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:04,040 Don't give me. Logic I'm I'm back to the air 1256 01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:05,240 fryer. It burned everything. 1257 01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:10,240 But when I put my air fryer at 390° and I put in for 10 1258 01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:14,560 minutes, it's still 10. You know, like I don't burn all 1259 01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,440 of my super tasty air fried food even though it would be the same 1260 01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:20,240 time as in the oven and the oven cooks faster and I don't like 1261 01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:21,880 it. That sounds like operator error 1262 01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:23,440 to me, man. I just don't think you read the 1263 01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,200 instructions because there are different instructions for a 1264 01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:30,440 conventional oven, a convection oven, an air fryer, a microwave. 1265 01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:32,560 Like how long you're nuking your chicken. 1266 01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:34,160 You can't nuke your chicken Nuggets for 10 minutes. 1267 01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:35,120 They're not going to come out good. 1268 01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:36,200 I. Think they explode? 1269 01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:40,680 Yeah, probably I. Don't know, I still just love an 1270 01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:42,240 air fryer. Like I want to go home and hug 1271 01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:43,040 my and. Don't. 1272 01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:48,400 No, the air fryer is great, but I'm just saying at some point 1273 01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:51,960 how long have they been sitting on the conspiracy is how long 1274 01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:53,800 have they been sitting on air fryer technology? 1275 01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:56,520 Because all it is is a countertop oven. 1276 01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:58,640 That's all it is. How dare you? 1277 01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:02,160 They've scammed all of us, no. But and we all have ovens and 1278 01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:05,720 air fryers, but we don't use our ovens anymore because we use the 1279 01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:08,680 air fryers but. Even you have like a double air 1280 01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,840 fryer, I do. So you can air fry multiple 1281 01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:13,360 things at the same time like because I have. 1282 01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:16,040 To. But you can't do that in an 1283 01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:17,960 oven. Why not? 1284 01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:20,800 I could put a pan of chicken Nuggets and a pan of French 1285 01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:24,359 fries in the oven. But it's not as crispy and good. 1286 01:08:24,359 --> 01:08:27,640 Yes, something air about. Oh my, it's the air. 1287 01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:29,880 What do you we? Are frying with What are you? 1288 01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:34,399 Making in your oven it's air. Is it though? 1289 01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:37,520 Oh my. God, we're. 1290 01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:41,120 Too far gone, Matt. I think, I think you guys, I'm 1291 01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:44,880 not hating on air fryers, I'm just the conspiracy is all they 1292 01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:49,600 did was take your giant oven and convince you that it's better if 1293 01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:53,439 we make it smaller and put it on your countertop, which it is. 1294 01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:55,600 They're right, but it's just your oven. 1295 01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:58,000 They miniaturized it and put it right there. 1296 01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:04,120 If OK, maybe better than the quantity of chicken Nuggets. 1297 01:09:04,319 --> 01:09:09,479 If if if a chicken nugget was 12 times as big like you had a 1298 01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:12,840 giant 12X chicken nugget, that would come out pretty good. 1299 01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:16,880 Yes, in your regular oven. I like that I can understand 1300 01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:18,040 that firmly. Believe that can. 1301 01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,479 We make a 12 time size chicken nugget, Matt. 1302 01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:24,560 Could do it. You're gonna have to get Costco 1303 01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:27,359 on the phone or something. Like hey, brand new marketing 1304 01:09:27,359 --> 01:09:30,200 idea Mega Nuggets. I mean, they make like Mega 1305 01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,920 Reese's and Mega Hershey's and all this stuff that's wildly 1306 01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:34,359 unhealthy. Why can't I have a mega nugget 1307 01:09:34,359 --> 01:09:35,560 they make? Tiny little balls of chicken 1308 01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:37,479 meat. They can make 12X size balls of 1309 01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:39,720 chicken meat now. Wait a minute, let me I just 1310 01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:44,120 thought of something if what isn't a chicken sandwich just a 1311 01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:45,600 really big chicken nugget? They're. 1312 01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:49,120 Just different shapes, yeah. Dino Dino nuggies. 1313 01:09:49,279 --> 01:09:53,880 What about a giant Dino nuggie? Oof T Rex nugget. 1314 01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:55,680 It's not a chicken nugget anymore. 1315 01:09:56,480 --> 01:09:58,760 Yeah, real T. Rex in there I'm. 1316 01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:02,120 Down with that. Would you eat it with three 1317 01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:06,520 fingers like with little like T Rex arms like? 1318 01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:08,440 Would you eat they only? Have three fingers. 1319 01:10:08,440 --> 01:10:12,240 They have 4 fingers, no? Maybe I'm thinking of ET. 1320 01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:15,880 How do you mistake ET in a dinosaur? 1321 01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:20,360 No, not 5 fingers. Are you gonna look at how many, 1322 01:10:20,440 --> 01:10:22,200 how many fingers does AT Rex have? 1323 01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:23,680 Is that only? Two fingers on each hand. 1324 01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:26,080 You're right. OK. 2 they have. 2 little well, 1325 01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:27,600 plus the thumb. I don't think they're counting 1326 01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:28,280 the thumb. Oh. 1327 01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:29,240 I count thumbs. Oh. 1328 01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:33,880 It's opposable. Yeah, OK, so. 1329 01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:37,480 So 2 functional fingers, each with claws. 1330 01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:40,760 Oh, maybe it is only two. They don't have thumbs, they 1331 01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:41,600 just have two. What? 1332 01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:43,240 What? I don't understand. 1333 01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:46,040 Dinosaur anatomy, apparently. Or dinosaur fingers. 1334 01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:50,400 Or dinosaur fingers, Yeah. There is another idea instead of 1335 01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:52,760 Dino nuggies. Dino Fingers. 1336 01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:54,640 Why not we? Have chicken fingers. 1337 01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:58,960 Why can't we have Dino fingers yes this got this got way out 1338 01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,840 We're we're answering the deep stuff here on the on the 1339 01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:06,520 leftovers podcast yeah conspiracy theories oof I. 1340 01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:09,600 They scammed us with the air fryers, Chris I. 1341 01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,520 I think they did and we all, it's fine. 1342 01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:14,280 We were like, we're all OK with it. 1343 01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,000 Yeah, we we know that the wool's being pulled over our eyes and 1344 01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:18,640 we're all like, Nah, I'm good with it. 1345 01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:20,320 I like it. I like my air fryer. 1346 01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:23,800 Even if you just call it a mini oven on my counter, I think 1347 01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:28,400 that's super fun. So I like it anyway, because I 1348 01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:31,120 like things that get smaller and they're just more fun that way. 1349 01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:34,200 What? Yeah, come on. 1350 01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:37,200 Like who? Who doesn't love like a smaller 1351 01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:38,800 version of a thing that they already have? 1352 01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:40,320 It's great. What? 1353 01:11:40,440 --> 01:11:44,680 Yeah, mini oven we have. I'm looking at a mini fridge in 1354 01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:45,320 your office. Oh. 1355 01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:48,520 That's now that's like a a toddler fridge. 1356 01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,880 They're smaller ones. Yeah, JT has a smaller one. 1357 01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:53,960 It holds like 4 cans. It's awesome. 1358 01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:55,360 We love mini things. Your. 1359 01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:57,840 Premise though, is that like the miniature version of the thing 1360 01:11:57,840 --> 01:11:59,720 that you already have is better it's. 1361 01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:01,920 More fun so. When you have a tiny car. 1362 01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:06,960 That's hurtful. All of your shoes? 1363 01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:08,920 Do you need like miniature replicas of your shoes? 1364 01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:10,240 They wouldn't fit on your feet. Oh. 1365 01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:12,640 Actually, my favorite shoes, if there were like miniature 1366 01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:15,320 replica key chains of some of my favorite shoes, I would 1367 01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:16,600 absolutely have that on my key chain. 1368 01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:20,360 So yes, more fun, yes. How about a miniature coffee 1369 01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:21,480 mug? You wouldn't like that. 1370 01:12:21,480 --> 01:12:23,960 You'd have to go back for coffee like 20 times more more. 1371 01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:26,360 Steps but. He'd look really big while he's 1372 01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:31,080 drinking out of it. Yeah, imagine how big he'll 1373 01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:32,760 look. So big. 1374 01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:35,880 I want you to I want you to bring like a like a mini Bible 1375 01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:37,400 up there next time you just like. 1376 01:12:39,440 --> 01:12:41,280 That might all right that. Might be more fun, we might have 1377 01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:44,680 to switch some stuff out around here just to a mini size to see 1378 01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:46,280 like. How long it takes everything, 1379 01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:47,160 it's going to be like, what is it? 1380 01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:51,080 Is that Gilligan's Island or, or yeah, Gulliver's Travels. 1381 01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:52,840 That's what it is. Gulliver's Travels for the the 1382 01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:54,760 Lilliputians and the and the tiny people. 1383 01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:56,640 And he's just everything is small, honey. 1384 01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:59,160 I Shrimp the Kids is a classic movie for a reason. 1385 01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:00,920 Because smaller things are awesome. 1386 01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,440 I agree. I don't think I agree with your 1387 01:13:04,440 --> 01:13:06,680 premise, but I'm open to the conversation about it. 1388 01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:08,320 So. Save that one for next time, 1389 01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:09,360 right? We may continue this. 1390 01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:12,080 Thanks for hanging with us, church crew. 1391 01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:14,240 You're always welcome to drop questions in the comments 1392 01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:16,440 section or the the show notes section here. 1393 01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:20,280 Hopefully this was entertaining and uplifting for your week. 1394 01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:24,000 Really excited about what's ahead for us at Emmaus Rd. 1395 01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:27,520 Church as we continue to grow in knowing Jesus and making Him 1396 01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:29,600 known. For the sake of the one more, 1397 01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:31,000 Have a Blessed Week Church.