1 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,760 Happy Monday, we're back in with the ERC Leftovers podcast. 2 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,680 I'm Pastor Matt. Pastor Chris, so quiet. 3 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,720 Pastor Chris so quiet. I'm still here. 4 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:26,600 Should I? Should I just whisper the entire 5 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:27,280 episode? I. 6 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,680 Don't know I should not captivate attention, right? 7 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:32,159 No, I should. Not spring. 8 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,840 Nope, not going to whisper. OK, Try not to yell either. 9 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:37,680 I'll do my best to make sure you don't. 10 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,760 Find the middle ground, yeah. Make sure you don't have to 11 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,800 adjust your volume back and forth because eventually I've 12 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,560 had to do that on certain like podcasts or whatever, and 13 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,760 eventually I just turn it off. I'm like, I can't take this. 14 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:49,000 It's not good. It's not. 15 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:50,720 No, I don't love it. Not a fun problem. 16 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:57,360 Good weekend, cold weekend back to two services on Sunday and 17 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:01,040 that was good third week of Advent. 18 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,360 If you're following along in the Bible app with us, which lots of 19 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:09,160 you are, Kristen got some end of the year metrics reports things 20 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,840 and that's that's good. Encouraging to see that lots of 21 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:16,720 you are utilizing that and interacting with us on the Bible 22 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,720 app too. But we are working through an 23 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,320 Advent devotional, daily readings and then working 24 00:01:23,320 --> 00:01:28,000 through the the themes of hope, peace, joy and love through 25 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,440 Advent. So this is the week of joy this 26 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:31,800 week. If you haven't caught up to that 27 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,080 yet. And you were in Isaiah 66 with 28 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,080 our third week of the Coming Home for Christmas Advent in 29 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,480 Isaiah series. We've gotten all the snow and 30 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,280 cold really that we need to have for like all of winter. 31 00:01:45,320 --> 00:01:47,640 We can be done. We can totally be done. 32 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:52,000 The thing is, in Iowa, I think we've gotten quite used to the 33 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,400 just very mild and tame winters. And then all of a sudden it 34 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,200 decides to show up like it's 1985 and I'm like, no, I lived 35 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,480 through this as a kid and and that was great when I was a kid. 36 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,760 Not so much fun as an adult. Yeah. 37 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,760 Yeah, do Do you think kids worry about the weather? 38 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,919 No, 'cause I never did. Oh, I still kind of don't 39 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,480 you're. Just like whatever it is. 40 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,280 And that's, that maybe seems to those of you that know how like 41 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,200 meticulously detailed I am about a lot. 42 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,920 There's one thing that I don't really care about and it's and 43 00:02:23,920 --> 00:02:28,160 it's the weather like I know I should and we can be informed 44 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:33,600 about it, but also I can't do anything about it like the one 45 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,080 it's kind of like here. We go. 46 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:42,120 Here we go. So Jim, Jim Gaffigan has a 47 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:43,560 sketch about getting a colonoscopy. 48 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:45,920 Sorry. All right. 49 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,840 As you've come to anticipate. I just spit my water out. 50 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,800 I almost spit my water out when you said that word. 51 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,480 I was not expecting that to come out of your mouth. 52 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,760 Can't imagine right now. Anyone was expecting that word 53 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:02,240 to come out, but the the punch line is the best case scenario 54 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,480 is that we didn't have to do that right? 55 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:09,840 Because the best right like like the the best case scenario is 56 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,440 you're totally fine and that procedure was completely 57 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,440 unnecessary, right? So lesser degree with the 58 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,960 weather, but like in the in the activity of checking the 59 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:23,720 weather, the best case scenario is the weather is fine and it 60 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,680 didn't matter that we checked it right like so. 61 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,720 Different. Different degree of that, but 62 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:34,040 like in my mind, the only, the only benefit of checking the 63 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,880 weather is when it's really bad news, right? 64 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,400 Like there's I don't I don't check the weather in the month 65 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,400 of July. It's I. 66 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,120 It's hot. I yeah, right. 67 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:44,880 It's hot. Yeah. 68 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,600 Which it's am I, am I wearing sandals or sneakers Today is 69 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:53,520 like the Yeah. So anyway, sorry I took a really 70 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,640 roundabout way of getting better, but almost. 71 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,480 I you almost had water all over your office. 72 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,240 Take care. Yeah, you almost had me, man. 73 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,200 And I did turn away because I thought, I mean, I don't want to 74 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,360 spit on Matt or our computers, so. 75 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,680 But that was close. You almost got me there. 76 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:11,960 Yep. Pretty good. 77 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:18,040 You're welcome. So seamlessly moving from that 78 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,640 to we're going to talk about Oh my. 79 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,280 Gosh. Holiday movies that you watch 80 00:04:23,280 --> 00:04:28,360 this time of year, if there's any measure of, yeah, tradition 81 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:34,440 or consistency with that, I will say, and this might be informing 82 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,240 for some of you, again, this is like pastor hats get set aside 83 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,560 for like a couple moments here, which, yeah. 84 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,000 So anyway, not everything we're going to talk about is 85 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:49,040 completely wholesome and 100% like recommended with the pastor 86 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,840 hats on, but my parents forever, I think. 87 00:04:53,600 --> 00:05:00,280 I think this year was like their 40th watching of planes, trains 88 00:05:00,280 --> 00:05:01,200 and automobiles. They. 89 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,360 Always, they always watch that, like Thanksgiving Eve, they 90 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:08,000 always watch that. I think, I think they hit 4040 91 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,040 years of doing that together this year. 92 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,360 So. Which I love that movie and I 93 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,200 would absolutely, you know, again, there's some moments in 94 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:21,000 there that may not be super. Yeah, there's like one or two 95 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,680 moments that may not be super friend family friendly in that 96 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,560 movie, but overall. Generally. 97 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,720 Yeah, overall, like just a fantastic holiday tradition to 98 00:05:29,840 --> 00:05:31,160 to watch that movie. Yeah. 99 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,640 So I mean, that's more Thanksgiving Eve if you can 100 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,680 have. I think I didn't. 101 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,160 I guess I didn't really think about like Thanksgiving movies 102 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:41,760 necessarily more talking about Christmas movies. 103 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,920 I get Kristen brought up. What free bird? 104 00:05:45,280 --> 00:05:47,160 Yeah, I haven't seen that yet, but she made it sound 105 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:48,960 interesting enough that I was like, you know what? 106 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,600 Maybe. I yeah, I mean, she roughly said 107 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,720 the plot line is about these turkeys who get a time machine 108 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,680 and they're going to go back in time to take Turkey off the menu 109 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,200 for Thanksgiving, so. That's actually a funny premise. 110 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,560 I'm not like, incredibly captivated by that plot line, 111 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,720 but really, no. Really. 112 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,760 Come on, If you're a, if you're a walking, talking Turkey, 113 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,720 you're like, you know what? This feels bad. 114 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,020 I mean, the president's going to let one of us go, quote, UN 115 00:06:12,020 --> 00:06:13,880 quote, once a year. Forget that, man. 116 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,320 Yeah, you lost me at walking, talking Turkey, so OK. 117 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,800 That's fair. That's fair. 118 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,520 So what are other? Do you have any Hartley family 119 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,080 Christmas classics? There's so many, in fact, that 120 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,240 it's actually it's it's kind of hard to keep up with them 121 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,920 because we just keep on. Seems like we keep adding more 122 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:33,560 as. You guys, just last night you 123 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,680 went to Opera House. Yeah, Dwight Opera House there. 124 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,880 You know, here's my plug for local business, Dwight Opera 125 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,760 House, showing Jim Carrey's version of The Grinch, which I 126 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,520 think is the best one, maybe besides the original cartoon. 127 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,200 They're showing that Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday this week. 128 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,760 And so my family and I went last night and we were the only ones 129 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,240 there. I suspect because it's cold, 130 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,120 it's a Sunday night, people are doing whatever. 131 00:06:56,840 --> 00:06:59,960 But it was great, man. We with the four of us just 132 00:06:59,960 --> 00:07:03,840 laughed our heads off alone in that theater watching the movie. 133 00:07:03,840 --> 00:07:06,280 And it was fantastic. And it's the first time I've 134 00:07:06,280 --> 00:07:09,000 ever gotten to see that movie in the theater, which was a lot of 135 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,040 fun. I like that too. 136 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:15,720 But the night before, night before we watched the, the 137 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:20,000 Disney animated one with I think came out in 1983. 138 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,400 It's got Scrooge the Duck and it's got Mickey Mouse. 139 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,280 And you know, it's like 35 minutes. 140 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,320 It's it's short. Is it the Christmas Carol? 141 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,720 Yeah, it's the Christmas Carol. Is that is that literally what 142 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,160 that's called? It's called the Christmas Carol. 143 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:37,360 OK, well, that's, you know, Yep. With like Ebenezer Scrooge and 144 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,120 the. Ghost of Christmas. 145 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,440 The three ghosts of Christmas. And it's so good. 146 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,320 It's so heartwarming. I love it. 147 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:45,280 It is. I just, I love it. 148 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,440 I've never seen the Jim Carrey Grinch. 149 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:53,160 Actually, I'm I'm only I've only seen the original and was like, 150 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,440 yes, I could memorize the original. 151 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,040 I feel like I I could probably walk through all of that from 152 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,120 memory. It's not that long. 153 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,120 That's also only like 30 minutes. 154 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:08,320 Probably the same, But so the I've never seen the Jim Carrey 155 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,400 like I don't know, I've never seen it. 156 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,560 So I guess I can't judge it. I would just the whole persona 157 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,600 of it just it always seemed like weird and creepy actually for 158 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,840 like younger kids to watch him as the Grinch. 159 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:25,840 He just, I don't know, seemed seemed like a frightening Grinch 160 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,480 almost. But the newer DreamWorks 161 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,240 Benedict Cumberbatch Grinch, I haven't seen that. 162 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:34,919 So that's so that's an animated one. 163 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:37,840 I think it's only like 3 or 4 years old. 164 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,120 I think it's the perfect bridging of it. 165 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:42,840 It cause it's longer. It's more like feature length. 166 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,240 It's like 80 minutes and they they drag out a little more back 167 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,120 story of Cindy Lou Who and and all the things. 168 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,920 But it's animated in like that Despicable Me sort of animation. 169 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,280 I need to seek this out. It's great. 170 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,320 It's like, I think it's a a really good blending of both 171 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,040 worlds. Benedict Cumberbatch voices the 172 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,960 Grinch and is like, yeah, has some has some personality and 173 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,600 curmudgeoniness and really well done. 174 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,240 So that's my favorite Grinch of the three. 175 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,280 Is this longer DreamWorks one that's that came out recently 176 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,320 but. Wow, I, I definitely need to 177 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,240 seek that out because the Grinch story in general I find 178 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,640 fascinating and kind of fun, similar to A Christmas Carol. 179 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,520 I just, you could do that, you know, you could have any number 180 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,920 of actors or whatever, but as long as you maintain kind of the 181 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,760 the the heart of the story, I think it's a compelling story. 182 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:33,760 So what else we've we've shown The Polar Express at the past 183 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,720 couple years. We're not doing that this year. 184 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:39,280 We're doing Oh, holy night. That's this this Friday, doors 185 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,880 open at 6:30, Friday Showtime at 7:00. 186 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:46,240 We're watching the chosen episode called Oh, holy night. 187 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:51,360 So that's family fun for all. But I don't really watch The 188 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:52,760 Polar Express like year after year. 189 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,760 I think my my kids maybe would, but growing up I did not. 190 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,640 And I mean, I think the, I think it's a great story. 191 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,400 I do find we're talking about animation style a little bit. 192 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,640 I find the animation style a little strange. 193 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,240 Yeah, I don't like it. I don't want to use the word 194 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,120 creepy. I think that's overused. 195 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,640 But I just the animation style, there's something about the way 196 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,760 the faces move and stuff that I'm just like, I don't, I don't 197 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,040 love. This it's, yeah, It's the 198 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,720 animation that they tried to make it look as lifelike and 199 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,160 human as possible, but it's still not like you can. 200 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:26,480 It's like AI Sure, yeah, like you can tell that it's not quite 201 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,880 real and it's a little weird. It's like I'd I'd rather just 202 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,120 have the full on. OK, this is clearly just 203 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,520 Whoville animation. Like, yeah, I think I'd rather 204 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:38,960 be in that, but you. Know OK, well, we were, we were 205 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,640 prior to getting on the microphones we were talking 206 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:46,160 about again, some non maybe maybe they're not Christmas 207 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:47,080 movies. I don't know. 208 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:51,680 It's been debated, but like Die Hard, some people insist that 209 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:53,640 yeah, we're just going right for it. 210 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,000 Some people insist that it's a Christmas movie. 211 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,240 Bruce Willis has come out and said no it's not, but it 212 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,040 definitely has Christmas vibes to it. 213 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,840 I mean, and it all, it takes place on Christmas Eve, right? 214 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,320 Christmas Eve into the wee hours of Christmas Day. 215 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:14,760 So I've always I've always been of the staunch opinion that it 216 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,880 is a Christmas movie while not being around Christmas, like 217 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,760 centered around it being Christmas. 218 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,760 It does happen at a Christmas office holiday party, Christmas 219 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,280 party and it happens on Christmas Eve, Christmas Day. 220 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,440 So and there's some redeeming qualities to it. 221 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,760 So yeah, to me that's a Christmas movie, but not to the 222 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:37,000 point where like I watch it on Christmas every year or even 223 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,400 December every year. No, and I mean, I wouldn't, I 224 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,560 wouldn't make that one an annual watch either. 225 00:11:41,560 --> 00:11:44,160 But I think I think it falls in the category. 226 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,240 And when you when you call something a Christmas movie, 227 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,280 then inevitably you're defining what makes it a Christmas movie. 228 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,440 Is it based on the time of year that the film is quote UN quote 229 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:56,160 being portrayed at? Or is it the theme of Christmas 230 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:00,000 has to be so overt that you can't deny it's a Christmas 231 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,040 film? Well, if we're making, if we're 232 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,440 making the die hard argument that it is, then we're saying 233 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:09,240 that despite the fact that it's not pointing at Christmas, as 234 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,320 this is the theme of the movie, since it happens during 235 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,120 Christmas, we're calling it that. 236 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:15,920 Yep. Yeah, that's, that's the camp 237 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,800 that I'd fall in there. I don't think that has to be as 238 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:24,000 it is. Like I I also enjoy it's a Jack 239 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,680 Black Jude Law film. It's called The Holiday. 240 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:28,560 Oh, I don't know if I've seen that one. 241 00:12:28,560 --> 00:12:34,240 They basically like switch lives kind of for, well, actually it's 242 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,480 actually about these two women that basically switched lives, 243 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,240 but they meet, one of them goes over to England, the other one 244 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,440 comes over to California and they basically like house swap 245 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:45,360 for two weeks or something. They just like both of them want 246 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,440 to get away from their lives and they just, there's this house 247 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,680 swap exchange and they just do that. 248 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,760 But it happens again around the like the week leading up to 249 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,080 Christmas and New Year's and all that. 250 00:12:55,080 --> 00:13:00,000 So it happens around that time. Again, nothing other than it 251 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,040 being around Christmas. Nothing like incredibly 252 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,480 Christmas thematic about it. It just happens around that time 253 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,840 of year. But that's strong enough for it 254 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,440 to be like a Christmas movie in my mind. 255 00:13:10,560 --> 00:13:12,760 Sure. Well, some other, some other, 256 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,040 you know, top choices that I think most people would say are 257 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,360 Christmas movies that what get watched regularly. 258 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,400 It's a Wonderful Life. I've seen that a bunch of times. 259 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,000 I prefer the black and white version. 260 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,720 There was a color version that came out and I don't like it. 261 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:30,320 Give me the original old school thing you're calling 34th, you 262 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,320 know, and that's been, I think we made it a couple times. 263 00:13:32,560 --> 00:13:34,720 Home Alone. Oh my gosh, the number of people 264 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,560 who I know watch Home Alone every year. 265 00:13:36,680 --> 00:13:37,880 My birth year. Yeah. 266 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:39,280 That's good. Wait, really? 267 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,040 Yeah. OK, sorry, here we go. 268 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,080 That's cool. I went and saw the in the 269 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,000 theater and I remember going and seeing it. 270 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,440 I was old enough to remember it, so there you go. 271 00:13:50,560 --> 00:13:53,800 And then elf. Yeah, I don't like ELF. 272 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,040 You don't like ELF? I I think it's. 273 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,080 Dumb. I had to hold back from as 274 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:04,400 Christmas was or as Kristen was announcing the caroling night 275 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:08,160 during church yesterday morning, I had to hold back from saying 276 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,680 the best way to spread Christmas cheer is singing loud for all to 277 00:14:11,680 --> 00:14:13,320 hear. Like that's, that's the line 278 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,920 from Elf and I, Yeah. You know. 279 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,480 Myself from just like making an extra plug for Christmas 280 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,680 caroling. If you were me, you wouldn't 281 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:22,520 have held back because I tend not to, right? 282 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,400 So you would have just said it and interrupted her. 283 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,920 So I'm glad it's you on the stage at that point, not me. 284 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,120 Filter happened. I do really enjoy elf. 285 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,200 I think it's, I think it's an entertaining movie, yeah. 286 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:40,080 Yeah, and and, you know, I'm not a Will Ferrell hater or lover. 287 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,880 I I think, but that movie just does not hit for me at all. 288 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,520 My wife loves it, so I don't know. 289 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,640 She she probably watches it when I'm not there. 290 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:53,000 So, you know, we don't agree on that one. 291 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,360 Good to know, Good to know. Yeah. 292 00:14:55,360 --> 00:15:00,560 So I think that's about it for me on the Christmas movie front. 293 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,480 Any other classics that you have? 294 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:07,680 Let us know Text, text in or drop a comment on the Facebook 295 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,760 post here. Or you can drop a comment in the 296 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,840 beneath the episode as well on whatever podcast platform you're 297 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,800 listening to. And I don't want the honestly, 298 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:22,520 the Hallmark or or now new age Netflix Hallmark Christmas 299 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,400 movies, like I just I have a hard time imagining their their 300 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:26,920 classics. It's fine, whatever you watch 301 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:28,240 them. My wife watches them. 302 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,040 I think this year it's the Christmas Prince. 303 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:36,200 There's it's like a three-part. There's like Christmas Prince, 304 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,520 then there's like Christmas Prince, the royal wedding and 305 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,600 then there's like the Christmas Prince, the royal baby. 306 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,800 No, I. Can't just the titles you just 307 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,920 named? I know I'm I'm shivering with 308 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,320 almost frustration. So no, we're talking like 309 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:54,480 bonafide classics here. What do you like? 310 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,280 What's part of your family tradition of watching around 311 00:15:58,280 --> 00:15:59,960 this time of year? Let us know. 312 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:05,640 Love to hear. Isaiah 66, we are going to jump 313 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:10,200 in. You covered the tail end of the 314 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,800 passage yesterday, verses 18 and on. 315 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,200 And we're going to jump into kind of the the first part of 316 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:20,560 this is the final chapter in the book of Isaiah and, and kind of 317 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:27,040 the end of this long line of prophecyical writings. 318 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:28,880 I don't know if that's a word, but it is now. 319 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:29,880 It is now. Yeah. 320 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,720 Chapter 66 starting at verse one, Isaiah writes thus says the 321 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,480 Lord, heaven is my throne and the earth is my footstool. 322 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,840 What is the house that you would build for me, and what is my 323 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,480 place of rest? All these things my hand has 324 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,360 made, so that all these things came to be, declares the Lord. 325 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:52,480 But this is the one to whom I will look, he who is humble and 326 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,800 contrite in spirit, and trembles at my word. 327 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:57,040 Beautiful. Wow. 328 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:02,080 Yeah, what an what an amazing start to his last bit of writing 329 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,280 as a prophet. And so one, one of the things 330 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:09,000 that you should set up before anything else is by the time 331 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:14,200 this is being written, you know, exiles are already going home or 332 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,119 already have been home at this point. 333 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:21,040 And there's still some leftover. But for the most part, like 334 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:22,760 they're, they're they've been called back home. 335 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:26,160 They've been called back to the place that God has given to them 336 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,360 and their people for, you know, long time before that. 337 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,760 And so, yeah, so as Isaiah gets going on his very last bit of 338 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:39,200 writing, he just, he just reminds us all and reminds his 339 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:43,240 own people of that time frame. What do you think you're doing 340 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:44,480 for God? Because, you know, they're going 341 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,160 to go back. Well, they're going to go back. 342 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,240 And part of the context of this is they're going to go back and 343 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,520 they're going to rebuild the temple, and they're going to get 344 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,440 all these resources from being exiles. 345 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,480 And, you know, these foreign Pagan kings are going to bless 346 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,960 them with all this stuff. And so that all sounds great on 347 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:58,960 the surface. And it is. 348 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:06,560 But Isaiah, well, the Lord reminds his people, OK, fine, 349 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:07,840 you're going to rebuild the temple. 350 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,880 But do you think that can house me? 351 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,320 Do you actually think that like this is something that can 352 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:17,200 contain me? The whole world is at my I've. 353 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,080 I heard a commentator and this was so funny. 354 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,760 Or I read it, I think. And he's like, yeah, God's big 355 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,320 toe is more than the earth could encompass. 356 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:31,400 So even even God saying the earth is my footstool, that's 357 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:36,600 probably, you know, shorting him by a long shot because the earth 358 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:40,760 itself is something that he created by a word, you know? 359 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:45,000 So like, you're going to build a physical temple, a building, and 360 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:49,720 assume that somehow God in all of his glory could be contained 361 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,000 there within. That's impossible, Sir. 362 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:57,160 Yeah, and Even so, Steven, in Acts, if you remember from our 363 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:01,480 from our X series, in Chapter 7, he even quotes these opening 364 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,640 lines as he's kind of rebuking and talking about the building 365 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,720 of the church or even the things that people could potentially do 366 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,120 for God. He reminds them of of God's home 367 00:19:12,120 --> 00:19:16,720 being in heaven and something that we cannot bring to pass 368 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,520 here. Where is this house that you 369 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,560 would build me? But on this one, I will look him 370 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,760 who is poor and contrite in spirit and who trembles at my 371 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,080 word. That's the response here. 372 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,840 That's what God desires. We've, we've said it, we've said 373 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:32,160 it before, but he wants your heart right like that. 374 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:33,640 That's, that's the focus of this. 375 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:37,800 Not, not what we could do or accomplish or be for him. 376 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:41,280 He's it's, it's relational. He, he, he wants our attention. 377 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,440 He wants our affection, He wants our heart, Those who are 378 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,200 contrite of spirit and who tremble at my word. 379 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,640 Spot on. And even in verse 2, I do like 380 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,760 this. I've heard somebody talk about a 381 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,560 Christian apologist. I believe it was. 382 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:59,720 They kind of said, OK, well what have you made that God hasn't 383 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,240 already made? And people will talk about, 384 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,400 well, the humans have invented this and this and this. 385 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,440 And it's like, Oh no, no, no, you don't get it. 386 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:10,160 Every element that you use to put that thing together was made 387 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:11,720 by God. You didn't make it. 388 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,560 You just took the elements that he had already given you and 389 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,560 slapped them together to make this other thing. 390 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,720 But everything, every, every tiny resource you could ever 391 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,640 mine out of the earth was already done by God's hand. 392 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,760 There's nothing new that you can make that He hasn't already 393 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,720 started the process for you. And I love that. 394 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,600 And it's just, it's so true. Like there's not a thing on this 395 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,480 planet that we can really take credit for. 396 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,720 It's it's all him. It's all made by his hand. 397 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,240 It's all done at his genius and at his will. 398 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:48,600 Next, it kind of goes on in. In contrast to that, the one who 399 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,000 trembles at my word is how verse 2 ends. 400 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,200 And then Isaiah kind of goes into an exposition of what that 401 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,800 doesn't look like. He who slaughters an ox is like 402 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,200 one who kills a man. He who sacrifices a lamb, like 403 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,960 one who breaks a dog's neck, and he who presents a grain offering 404 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:06,560 like one who offers pig's blood. Lots of graphic but terrible 405 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,000 things. He makes a memorial offering of 406 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,240 frankincense. Like one who blesses an idol. 407 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,040 These have chosen their own ways, and their soul delights in 408 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,160 their abominations. I will also choose harsh 409 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,120 treatment for them and bring their fears upon them. 410 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:21,600 Because when I called, no one answered. 411 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,840 When I spoke, they did not listen, but they did what was 412 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:28,000 evil in my eyes and chose that in which I did not delight. 413 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:34,520 Wow, the Lord is going hard as he, you know, as as he speaks at 414 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,160 the end of the chapter and does the same thing. 415 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,080 You know, with this, you said it so perfectly just a moment ago 416 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,200 that what does God really desire from us? 417 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:46,440 He desires our hearts. He desires our our our man. 418 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,960 He he wants us. It's not the things that we 419 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,000 could ever possibly do for him. He just wants us. 420 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,640 Now if I I say that and then a person who's observing the Bible 421 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,720 might say, yeah, but he also said make these sacrifices and 422 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,240 do this. So how could it be both? 423 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:07,320 Well, in the sense if you go all the way back to Genesis, God had 424 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:13,400 to spill blood in order to cover up his people's sin, right. 425 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,080 So when we, so it's not a contradiction because when we, 426 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,960 when we see God talk about the sacrifices and all these kinds 427 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,840 of things, it's for sin. And now of course, we know that 428 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,640 that's not ultimately ultimately going to cover sin on a 429 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,280 permanent basis the way that Jesus Christ did with his 430 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:35,120 perfect righteousness. But it's in place of that for a 431 00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:38,960 time. And so like, yeah, you look at 432 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,880 these and and God and actually even going back to Cain and 433 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,920 Abel. OK, so one offering was accepted 434 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,280 and one wasn't. Well, it wasn't about the 435 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:48,960 offering. It was about the position of the 436 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,800 heart of the person who is giving it. 437 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,480 So you know, same way here, the position of your heart when you 438 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,560 give to the Lord, that's what matters most. 439 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,400 And so he, as he's going through these illustrations of what, of 440 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,920 what they could give and what they could hope to gain out of, 441 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:12,360 out of what they've given, Isaiah describes God just as 442 00:23:12,360 --> 00:23:16,360 they've chosen their own ways, so will I choose their 443 00:23:16,360 --> 00:23:18,640 delusions. They, they chose rebellion 444 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,000 against him. So he, he gave them over to that 445 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,040 despite, despite warnings. This is God's kind of judgement 446 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,800 on them of like, OK, this is, this is what you chose. 447 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:33,600 You chose your own way. You chose rebellion from me and 448 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,280 my ways. I've sought the one who has 449 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,600 respect for my word and my ways and you've kind of kind of what 450 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:44,120 you said the the two ways we could approach God, either in 451 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:48,280 contrition and and shame and sorrowfulness, but like 452 00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:52,000 repentance in in in a repenting sort of way, or do we give them 453 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:57,800 the don't care like I'm I'm gonna Yep, I know, I know I 454 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,760 broke the law. It don't matter. 455 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:01,840 What are you going to do about it and me? 456 00:24:02,120 --> 00:24:03,360 Yeah. I just can't. 457 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,040 I can't do that. And we see writings in Paul too, 458 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,160 that of God giving them over to the desires of their flesh and, 459 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,400 and, and things like that. So this isn't a foreign way. 460 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,240 There does seem to be. OK. 461 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,240 We have a choice in the matter. And you did a good job of 462 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:22,960 outlying that yesterday too. We can choose how we view God. 463 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:27,480 We can even choose how we'd like to follow or not follow God 464 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,720 ultimately. And the one way could end in 465 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,280 destruction if we keep choosing the things that are not of God. 466 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:40,280 I know, I know, God is so much more than just a parent or a 467 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,240 father to believers. I clearly understand that. 468 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:48,280 However, I, I cannot help but think about God's heart as a 469 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,640 father, as a creator, as a sustainer. 470 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:55,600 And so even in this kind of stuff, like I, I know it's 471 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,360 incredibly difficult for parents who have a, you might say a 472 00:24:59,360 --> 00:25:02,080 wayward child or a child who just refuses to listen. 473 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,480 But the breaking point typically for parents is, man, I've been 474 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,960 over backwards trying to get you to do the right thing, trying to 475 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:13,200 help you make good decisions. And at some point that parent 476 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,760 usually breaks and says, fine, do it your own way. 477 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,200 I can't, I can't protect you from yourself anymore. 478 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,920 You just have to do it your own way and you're going to find 479 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,280 out. And not that you enjoy them 480 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,080 finding out the hard way, but at some point you just run into, 481 00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:31,760 you're just running into a brick wall of stubbornness and you 482 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,680 say, OK, I'm I'm going to let you do it your way. 483 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,960 And, and I guess that's what it's going to be. 484 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,560 And so, and again, not thinking of God in too small of a way, 485 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:45,440 only as a parent figure, but as a parent figure, you know, he at 486 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,880 some point looks at his people and says, all right, if this is 487 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,800 really what you want, I'm going to let you have it. 488 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:59,120 And that's that can be scary. Yeah, for sure, Isaiah goes on. 489 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,960 And kind of paints a picture of, of he melds these two sort of 490 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,080 passages together. That one, one is 1 who's 491 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,360 pursuing the ways of God, one that's choosing their own ways. 492 00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:12,680 And he paints his picture in verses 5 and 6 of this kind of 493 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:19,280 sincere versus insincere faith, vibrant versus a lukewarm faith. 494 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,040 Here in verses 5 and 6, hear the word of the Lord, you who 495 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,000 tremble at his word, your brethren who hated you, who cast 496 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,120 you out for my name's sake, said, Let the Lord be glorified, 497 00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:30,680 that we may see your joy, but they shall be ashamed. 498 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,680 The sound of noise from that city, a voice from the temple, 499 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,320 the voice of the Lord who fully repays his enemies. 500 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,640 Isaiah is painting a picture here of a shallow, empty, 501 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:46,560 mocking sort of religion that that kind of says these things 502 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,640 half heartedly but doesn't accept that, doesn't have the 503 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:55,280 genuineness of faith in them and, and, and he even hates them 504 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,480 in opposition to each other. That that empty religion, one 505 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:03,320 that is not rooted in God's word, hates genuine faith. 506 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,280 Empty religion rejects true faith, and empty religion acts 507 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,280 in the name of the Lord. Like it it it kind of fakes it, 508 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:18,160 but ultimately mocks spiritual sounding words just to to kind 509 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:24,400 of have a semblance of Christianese, but without a true 510 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,280 understanding without, without a true like application. 511 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:31,760 Light bulb sold out discipleship for for God. 512 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,560 And he's kind of painting the picture of how these two things 513 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,680 can they can seem alike. They can seem really close, but 514 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,320 he's offering a warning against a faith that is short of 515 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,840 genuine. So at our Thursday morning Bible 516 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,680 study, food for thought it was brought up last week in writing 517 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,160 and I can't remember who the the writer was, but it was brought 518 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,280 up last week basically that there's a there's a major issue 519 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,160 within Christianity and it kind of sounds like what you're 520 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,120 describing, which is you have people who claim to be 521 00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:04,280 Christians, but then if you bring up faith, if you bring up 522 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,520 Jesus around them, they're like, why do you have to make 523 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,120 everything about Jesus? Why do you have to make 524 00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:10,160 everything about religion? Oh, can't we just get through 525 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,840 one meal without you talking about Jesus? 526 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,840 And so these self-proclaimed Christians in some ways, like 527 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,360 they want to claim it, but they don't want to interact with it. 528 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,280 You know, they don't want it a part of their daily lives. 529 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,240 And so even in our Sunday morning Bible study this last 530 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,600 week as we're studying Daniel Chapter 7, coming to the reality 531 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,000 that, you know, even if somebody has great church attendance, 532 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,920 that it seems like they're doing all the right things on the 533 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,640 surface, we don't know their hearts. 534 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,840 And so it is terribly important from, you know, any given church 535 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:49,040 that every single week, law and gospel is clearly preached 536 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,880 because of the fact that man, the law still needs to do its 537 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:57,720 work to convict and kill that prideful, selfish person who's 538 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,680 putting on the show. And Lord willing, if the law 539 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,760 does its work, the gospel will come and revitalize them and 540 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:08,640 heal them and then bring them back or bring them maybe for the 541 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,000 first time into a real meaningful relationship with 542 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,840 Jesus Christ, which is a relationship that has a daily 543 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:21,080 need and a daily interaction. If you, if you want to talk 544 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,200 about being a Christian, I brought this up before, but you 545 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,600 want to tell me about being a Christian. 546 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,960 But like I asked you the last time you prayed and you can't 547 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,640 tell me maybe you're not what you think you are because the 548 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:37,640 true Christian is seeking God all of the time, not just when 549 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,560 things go bad, not just, you know, you're seeking him all the 550 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,160 time because you love Him. And that's the heart position 551 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,240 that God wants from us. He wants a position of not what 552 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,000 have you done for me lately or not my life is in shambles. 553 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,640 So now I'm coming back. No, like he wants to be 554 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,560 interactive with us every single day. 555 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,880 Yeah, yeah, it's true. Absolutely true. 556 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:02,120 Well said. Verses 7 and 8. 557 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:07,360 Moving on here we get some some of this exile people of Israel 558 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:12,720 sort of language. Isaiah prophecies a day here in 559 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:17,440 verse 7 before she was in labor, she gave birth talking about the 560 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,760 the deliverance of Jerusalem. Here he's kind of foreshadowing 561 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,120 some writings of Paul in Romans 8, where we will be more than 562 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,080 conquerors through him who loved us. 563 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,640 Great connection. Yeah, looking, looking ahead to 564 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,760 this thing that Jesus will accomplish, it's as as a beacon 565 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,920 of hope already for for the people that have been through 566 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,800 strife and exile who are gradually experiencing 567 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,760 restoration. But he's pointing forward to the 568 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,720 fullness of their restored relationship with God. 569 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:54,880 So he then he then expounds upon that and and goes into rejoice 570 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,920 with all Jerusalem, all God's people called to share in 571 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,200 Jerusalem's joy. Verses 10 and 11 here this, this 572 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,600 deliverance, this victory, this even you could even use the 573 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:10,600 word, the word vindication or or or justice Here is is done as 574 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,040 Jesus has. Jesus will be victorious over 575 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,200 death. And so all of God's people are 576 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,320 brought in to this sure and certain more than conquerors 577 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,920 sort of sort of victory here. And he's in some ways he's 578 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,400 foreshadowing what he's going to say later in the chapter, which 579 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,200 is gathering all nations in all tongues. 580 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:35,360 So universally the believer gets to rejoice, quote UN quote, with 581 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:40,360 Jerusalem, because out of out of God's chosen Holy Land, out of 582 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,560 God's chosen people comes the Messiah who is for all people, 583 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,520 all races, you know, everything included in that. 584 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,800 And that's a man. That's a promise that like, if 585 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:56,000 we, if we don't hear that promise and take some time to 586 00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:00,600 think deeply about that and just rejoice in what God has done and 587 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,600 will do again, I think we're missing something even within 588 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,960 our own faith that can bring us comfort and consolation and 589 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:13,120 peace even when things seem to go terribly wrong in our own 590 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,040 lives, individually or as Christians in the modern world, 591 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,400 we have to continue to lean on the promises of God because he 592 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,360 has yet to fail even one of them. 593 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,960 So let's not hold back on that. We should be excited about that, 594 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:32,440 Yeah. For sure, verse 12 as we move on 595 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:37,960 in Isaiah 66 here, behold, I will extend peace to her like a 596 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:42,240 river, a verse lyric taken out of there from it as well. 597 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:47,240 If you're, if you're familiar with that peace, like a river 598 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,080 being extended to God's people in the glory of the Gentiles, 599 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,040 like a flowing stream. Interesting. 600 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,920 But that's as, as you already pointed out, we're moving on to 601 00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:00,200 the into that all inclusive language of every people, tribe 602 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,560 and tongue sort sort of thing, extending peace to the people of 603 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,880 God, but the glory of the Gentiles like a flowing stream 604 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,320 that that being that Messiah that would be savior for both 605 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,080 Jew and Gentile, slave and free all all of that. 606 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,320 Then we get into some interesting. 607 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:21,960 I was going to say gender language, and it kind of is that 608 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,560 because there's a as one whom his mother comforts. 609 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:30,720 So I will comfort you. There's a highlight, yes, God 610 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:37,080 being our our master comforter, but speaking to the relationship 611 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,520 that a that a mother's comfort has to her children more so. 612 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:45,280 And of course God's again the the perfector of that comfort. 613 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,440 But the writing from Isaiah here is is that idea is that image of 614 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,360 of the comfort that you would receive only from your mother 615 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,680 that you would receive best from your mother. 616 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,840 So God will be their comfort, right? 617 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,000 And. This is why, you know, God has 618 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,120 talked about as God the Father, which of course we give 619 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:10,080 masculine traits to that. But God encompasses the best of 620 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,560 everything that both genders might traditionally represent, 621 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,639 whether that's comfort, whether that's discernment, whether 622 00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:19,280 that's wisdom, whether that's bringing up and growing and and 623 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,719 training. He represents and fully 624 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,440 encompasses all of those things, which is, again, it's, it's, 625 00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:28,880 it's incredibly helpful for the believer because it's not like 626 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,760 we need multiple sources to find wisdom or comfort of this. 627 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,679 Like God encompasses all of those things in and of 628 00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:38,400 themselves. And even we see Jesus do that to 629 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,000 some extent. We see him be so kind and so 630 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,760 tender, almost like a, a mother would who loves her children. 631 00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:49,560 And then we see him also taking on a more masculine role, which 632 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,040 is, you know, like, like he's leading, he's training up. 633 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,719 He's, he's hard. He, you know, this guy, he 634 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,520 worked with his hands. He was a Carpenter, but he 635 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,680 wasn't a Carpenter of wood. Most scholars think he was a 636 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,040 Carpenter of stone and brick. Like this is a hard man. 637 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,880 And so watching Jesus encompass both of those different aspects 638 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,400 too, is you can, if you pay attention, you can see it 639 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:11,880 throughout the entire New Testament. 640 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,120 Then we get into a little bit, a little kind of prequel to the 641 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,640 verses that you were preaching through yesterday. 642 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,240 The hand of the Lord and you're talking about this hard hand 643 00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:26,320 shall be known to his servants and his indignation to his 644 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:31,360 enemies. This gets into the how do you, 645 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,280 how do you view God, right? You're either going to see him 646 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:40,040 as your judge or as your savior, right. 647 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,240 You didn't get into totally the specifics of guys night this 648 00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:47,240 past week. The the book stand for an act 649 00:35:47,240 --> 00:35:48,240 like men that we're working through. 650 00:35:48,240 --> 00:35:50,840 But it within that there's this great story that Joby Martin 651 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,200 told. I thought about how he kind of 652 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,040 went. He kind of went missing from his 653 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,480 parents as as a kid. He was hiding in this scrap pile 654 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,120 that he and he built himself a Fort in this scrap pile that 655 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,480 they had told him to not go near to not play. 656 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,600 And he built himself this Fort that he ultimately like takes an 657 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,160 afternoon snooze and basically dozes off and naps and they 658 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:12,920 can't find them. They're not looking in the scrap 659 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,880 pile, obviously, because they told him not to go there. 660 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,600 But eventually he circles around back and kind of just like gets 661 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,080 to a spot that he was just like, hey, guys, I've been I've been 662 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,760 right here the whole time. What's the what's the problem? 663 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:28,280 And he, he said his dad, who was a a disciplinarian, sort of kind 664 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:33,000 of hard, hard man, says to him, boy, I don't, I don't know what, 665 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:38,560 whether to spank you or hug you. And and Joby and his childish 666 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,120 wisdom says, says all if those are the choices, I'll take the 667 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:46,440 hug like right. Yeah, But but those are like, we 668 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,520 can, those are the only ways we can approach God, right? 669 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:55,600 I, I think like we can either see God as the executor of 670 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,960 discipline on our lives or, or the one that has that sort of 671 00:36:59,960 --> 00:37:04,800 prodigal son embrace that that welcoming, comforting, forgiving 672 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,160 hug. And those are the two ways we 673 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,920 can choose to approach God, right? 674 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,240 Or have him painted as this Father authoritative justice 675 00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:17,600 figure, right? So I would be curious, maybe I'm 676 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,040 going to put you on the spot for a second. 677 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:25,480 I'd be curious, like people make decisions about faith and what 678 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,400 they believe and stuff and some what do you think causes? 679 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:30,960 Maybe what are some of the causes? 680 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:35,560 Maybe that would make a person maybe even believe that there is 681 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,320 a God. But also look at that God and 682 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,800 say I don't want you. And if you have some form of 683 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,640 wrath, either you're not going to do that to me or I don't 684 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,080 care. I mean, certainly there are 685 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,320 things that happen in our life that would push a person in a 686 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,920 direction of not caring or just whatever. 687 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:59,960 Well, I think as as much as I would say, like the Bible is 688 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:05,680 objective truth, right, There are aspects of it that are 689 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,920 subjective. OK, so, so like people can get 690 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:16,880 to a conclusion of, OK, well, if, if this God will be willing 691 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,880 to send people to hell and punish them for all eternity, I 692 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,720 don't want any part of that. I don't I don't want to believe 693 00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:25,800 in a God that does. I don't think a God would punish 694 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,880 people that he created for all of eternity. 695 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,640 OK, sure. And so we're saying in in a 696 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:37,000 vacuum, I'm against punishment for a creation that you say 697 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,200 you're you've loved. OK, sure. 698 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:47,040 Subjectively, the part of that creation that is damned to hell. 699 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:51,080 What have they done? Well, they've acted like verses 700 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,840 3 and 4 at the beginning of this passage. 701 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,120 They, they've chosen their own way. 702 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,560 They've rejected the way of God. They've decided they can figure 703 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,560 it out from themselves or indulge in selfish, earthly, 704 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,360 fleshly, worldly passions. And then that that's going to be 705 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,400 their idol and that's going to be their God and that's going to 706 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,480 be their way. So in that light, subjective, 707 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,240 that punishment is justified, in fact, right? 708 00:39:15,240 --> 00:39:20,520 Like it is a righteous judgment for violating God's law. 709 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,720 Now bring that back to bring that back to your question. 710 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:32,200 I I think we people who, who don't want a part of God or or 711 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,200 decide, no, that's not that's not the God that I would I would 712 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,320 think of or or don't want to think of him that way. 713 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:41,000 Well, I think we're we're painting with maybe too broad a 714 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,960 brush stroke there that we do need to get into the nuance of. 715 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,680 OK, yeah, Even Jesus flipping tables and throwing whips in the 716 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,080 temple with those violating his, his father's house. 717 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,960 Yeah, that's a objectively, that's a picture of rage. 718 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:02,600 But subjectively, for the perfect one whose law was being 719 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:08,120 violated, he's the only one. Who can righteously act in anger 720 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,320 against rebellion for his laws, right? 721 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:11,400 Very. Good, yeah. 722 00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:17,840 So as far as as far as that goes personally, and I just think we 723 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,800 get wrapped up in into that too much. 724 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:26,160 We do need to be a little more new nuanced with the no OK, this 725 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,920 God's God's action here, while seeming harsh and and judge 726 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:36,040 mental and and yeah, very authoritarian is is justified. 727 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:40,000 Now if we have a father figure or a mother figure or even some 728 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:46,800 authoritarian figure in our life that is a little is is a lot 729 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:52,240 heavier on the law than gospel in their interaction with us. 730 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,560 I think that then can paint a picture, especially if it's a 731 00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:02,920 person who is a churchgoer, purports to be a a Christian, a 732 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:07,600 Christ follower. But that's how they act with 733 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:13,240 those in their care. That could be communicated then 734 00:41:13,240 --> 00:41:19,720 that they see God as this authoritarian punishment only 735 00:41:19,720 --> 00:41:23,360 figure for stepping out of line. And then that's how the next 736 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,120 generation comes to believe that God is. 737 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,400 They don't see that subjective aspect. 738 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,040 So that was maybe a long no. No, that's all actually short 739 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,360 drink of water. Actually, no, you, you 740 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,320 highlighted 2 things. I was, I was kind of thinking 741 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:44,560 about #1 that we give people too much power to influence how we 742 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,400 think about a holy God. So, you know, I've certainly met 743 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,600 Christians who had I not already believed, I would have looked at 744 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,320 them and said, oh, you're a Christian. 745 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,320 I don't want any part of that because you're kind of a jerk. 746 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,720 But the other thing that you highlighted really, really well 747 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,760 was the OK, so let me say it this way. 748 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,920 I can't remember who the person was, but they had lived in and 749 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,800 through like a terribly war-torn country and their people had 750 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,640 just been abused by the invading country. 751 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:20,160 And he used his real personal experience to say, oh, I 752 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,360 absolutely believe in the judgement of God because if I 753 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,960 didn't, I would have become a mass murderer. 754 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:29,560 Here's what he meant. He meant that the atrocities, 755 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:33,480 the evil things that he saw his family and friends go through. 756 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:38,960 If there was not a God who judges and punishes permanently, 757 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:45,320 he wouldn't know how to live because you know the OK, so 758 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,280 let's just take, we'll just take the big example right away. 759 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,720 You know, the evils that, like somebody like Adolf Hitler 760 00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:55,560 perpetrated against thousands and thousands and thousands of 761 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,920 people that affected the rest of human history. 762 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,920 Do we, do we think that somehow he is not worthy of eternal 763 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,960 punishment if in fact his heart was not changed before he died? 764 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,680 You know, I can never assume, but assuming his heart was not 765 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,800 changed for Christ before he died, would a man who did that 766 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:21,760 much evil not be subject to God's eternal punishment? 767 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,880 Of course he would. And again, this person who came 768 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:29,360 from this war-torn country, they're, they're just clarifying 769 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,880 what I would feel, I think, if I was in that situation too. 770 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,280 No, I need this God to be a God of judgment and punishment. 771 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,800 Because if not, there's nothing left in the world for me to live 772 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,520 for. Because the evil that is 773 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:46,720 sometimes done in this world is so heavy and it's so severe that 774 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,480 this is the only appropriate response. 775 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,160 And God is willing to do that. He's willing to make the hard 776 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,320 call despite the fact that He doesn't want that for anybody. 777 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,160 The Bible is incredibly clear about the fact that God doesn't 778 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:05,240 want anybody to suffer this way. But we choose to reject Him. 779 00:44:05,240 --> 00:44:10,480 Therefore, we choose a life in it or in existence without Him 780 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,000 forever. Yeah, and he lays out the the 781 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,840 beginning of this passage lays out the groundwork for that the 782 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,360 people that that God is seeking, that he'll shelter and protect 783 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,080 and gather and ultimately bring home coming, coming home for 784 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,320 Christmas. The last part of this chapter is 785 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,360 the Lord gathers and restores his people. 786 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,720 Well, how do you do that? The first couple verses, those 787 00:44:31,720 --> 00:44:36,080 that are contrite in heart, those that are that that their 788 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,360 joy is the law of the Lord is is the word of God. 789 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:45,120 That's that's how you follow God that that's how you those those 790 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:46,880 are the people that are his people. 791 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,440 How do you not get gathered by the Lord by by those acts of 792 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,200 rebellion by choosing your own things, but by those old. 793 00:44:54,200 --> 00:45:00,560 So it's here the the prescription is here our job, 794 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:05,160 our discernment, our faith walk is is to to understand and 795 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:10,040 either accept or reject that. But I mean, ultimately the 796 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,000 blueprints here, the the the it's binary really. 797 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,600 There's a simplicity to faith that Jesus talks about, you 798 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,360 know, the, the faith like a child and those are the ones who 799 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,200 will inherit the Kingdom of God and so on and so forth. 800 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:27,520 But you know, I just, it's just not that complicated. 801 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:34,840 Do I feel an honest sadness when I, when I mess up, when I hurt 802 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,000 people? Like do I, do I have the empathy 803 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,200 to feel, Oh man, I really wish I wouldn't have done that because 804 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,840 look at how it affected this person in this terrible way. 805 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,040 And, and I'm, I'm really, I'm really a bit sad about it, you 806 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,120 know, and, and it's more than just being sad, though. 807 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:55,120 It is looking at God and and saying not only like David says 808 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,680 you against you, O Lord, have I sinned, you know, with the whole 809 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,240 deal with Bathsheba. You and you alone. 810 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,680 Yeah, So like, whose law did he break? 811 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,200 He broke God's law. Sure, there are obviously 812 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,720 terrible things that were done to humans who have to feel the 813 00:46:09,720 --> 00:46:12,240 effects of that. But he's recognizing in that 814 00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:16,480 moment that Lord, I'm. I am so sorry I broke your law 815 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,800 and I have offended you. I have, I have hurt you with my 816 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,800 actions. And that is the first and 817 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,520 foremost apology we need to make. 818 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,760 So yeah, if, if I offend somebody or hurt somebody, I, I 819 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,920 should go make amends with them. I should apologize. 820 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,840 I should own my stuff. But even before I do that, I 821 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,640 ought to go to the Lord 1st and confess because that's actually 822 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:43,680 going to a, in my confession, God says he forgives my sins, 823 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,080 but B, it's going to set up my heart and humility. 824 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,880 So then I can go to that person who I've hurt and I can make an 825 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,120 authentic confession, an apology to them. 826 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,640 I don't know if I, I don't know if it can be totally authentic. 827 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:00,640 That might be a stretch. I don't know if it can be 828 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,600 totally authentic though until I go to the Lord first because 829 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,800 it's his lie broke. Yeah, absolutely. 830 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:08,320 No, I think, I think you're right on with that. 831 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,120 I didn't know if I was stretching that too far, because 832 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,880 I certainly think that there are secular atheist people who they 833 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,480 when they make an apology, it's not totally inauthentic, but 834 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,480 they don't realize that the greater law, the greater thing 835 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,280 that they've heard is not even that person. 836 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,520 It's the Lord who established these things. 837 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:27,920 Right. Yeah. 838 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,000 And it and in a way there is a bit of ignorance in that, but 839 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:35,280 ultimately it is it is wrong against the creator, the 840 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:39,320 sovereign Lord over everything. So whether we acknowledge that 841 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:43,560 or not, that's I think that's how the reality works. 842 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:44,520 I agree. Yeah. 843 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,440 So yeah, that's that's all the verses leading up to what you 844 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:52,840 covered in the sermon yesterday. That's right before this episode 845 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,280 in the feed. If you haven't gotten a chance 846 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:58,320 to catch up on Pastor Chris's sermon from Isaiah 66. 847 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:02,320 But yeah, that's a little just a bit of the context leading us up 848 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,400 to that. And I hope you enjoyed a little 849 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,320 further conversation on on that leading up. 850 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,760 We have a couple weeks left two more, two more messages in 851 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:16,040 coming home for Christmas here this Advent in Isaiah. 852 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,640 Let us know if you have any traditional or or favorite 853 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,760 Christmas movies that are a part of your family tradition or your 854 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:27,800 yearly watchings. And in two weeks on the 29th, 855 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,320 that's the week between Christmas and New Year's. 856 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,600 We're going to haven't asked me anything episode. 857 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,280 So if you would like to submit any questions or maybe resubmit 858 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,520 any quite if if you submitted one of the past that we haven't 859 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,160 gotten to, you can certainly send it afresh to us. 860 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,880 Sorry about remind us to. Well, we just got, we got 861 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,040 several on the piles still, like we, we still have some that we 862 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,360 just haven't had time to get to. So if there's, if there's one 863 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,160 that's particularly pressing or you'd like to hear answered, 864 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,560 feel free to resend it in even if you haven't. 865 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:58,880 You can text the the church number back 563-659-9444. 866 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,200 You can text in your questions to that and we both get them. 867 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:06,600 You can drop questions in the in the comments section of this the 868 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,800 podcast app that you're listening to this on or the 869 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,040 faith the church Facebook post that this episode comes on and 870 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,960 or you can private message, whatever any of the ways. 871 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:19,200 So many ways communicate with us to get to get those ask me 872 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,840 anything questions in. We will record that episode and 873 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:27,120 drop it on December 29th. Couple things coming up. 874 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:31,800 We have, we have the O Holy Night chosen episode this 875 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:37,440 Friday, December 19th, doors at 6:30 and that starts at 7:00. 876 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,560 It's about an hour long. We have Christmas caroling on 877 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:44,560 the 21st and then Christmas Eve services are 3/30, 5:00 and 878 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:48,920 11:00 on December the 24th. That's what's going on. 879 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:50,560 Thanks for hanging out with us church. 880 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:51,360 Have a blessed week.