1 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:15,320 Happy Monday, we're back in with the ERC Leftovers podcast. 2 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:17,080 I'm Pastor Matt. Pastor Chris. 3 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:21,480 He's here, ready. Total live, totally ready. 4 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,960 Although I thought it might actually be fun as we were, as 5 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,680 you were messing with equipment prior to this, I thought, you 6 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,360 know for a second, maybe we both have to talk into the same 7 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:36,320 microphone and then what happens is we do recorded like like a 8 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:40,960 video and we look like cool 80s guys singing into the same 9 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,720 microphone. It is both like a weirdly like 10 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,520 fun but like intense moment for us. 11 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,480 Just both face to face talking in the same microphone. 12 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,560 I I wouldn't enjoy that at all. OK, OK, well, that's that's 13 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:56,720 fine, fine. See that one? 14 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,040 That's a dream of yours though, to happen sometime. 15 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,320 I mean, it's not a nightmare. It's not the worst thing that 16 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:04,720 could ever happen, right? Great. 17 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,440 So there we are. We can try that sometime. 18 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:08,880 Huh. Yeah, once we get the video 19 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,480 rolling, we could we could do that. 20 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,760 Just just us for like 45 minutes. 21 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,280 Staring at a microphone. Like 3 inches away. 22 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,400 To me that I feel like that is a nightmare. 23 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,240 You, you say it couldn't be worth. 24 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:30,560 I don't think that would be good. 25 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,760 Matt, we've been working together for almost 4 years now. 26 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:38,240 And at no point have we been 3 inches apart from each other's 27 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,400 face for 45 minutes. I feel like. 28 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:45,160 I feel like that's a key aspect of why why we was still worked 29 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,920 with each other for so long. Are you saying that would break 30 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:49,800 the? Relationship. 31 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:50,880 I would worry. Oh my gosh. 32 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,920 OK. Well, I know where the line is 33 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:55,120 now. I think you're overlooking. 34 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,840 Oh, OK. I just thought like I thought it 35 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:03,240 could take our our awesome work relationship to a new level. 36 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,680 Now that is one of the things I value about you, that we have 37 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:10,600 not spent 45 minutes 3 inches apart from each other. 38 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,240 That is one of the favorite things about our relationship to 39 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,280 me. OK, OK, fine, be that way. 40 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:22,400 Happy Mother's Day to y'all. We had a good gathering I think 41 00:02:22,920 --> 00:02:26,320 at church yesterday. Lots of there's, there's cold 42 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,200 brew coffee leftover. So that was that was good. 43 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,080 That was a happy Monday for for me and you and Kristen, but 44 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,160 hopefully moms, we felt helped you make wow helped make you 45 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,600 feel loved and cared for on Mother's Day yesterday. 46 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,040 I don't think I have preached on Mother's Day before, before 47 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,280 yesterday. I think that was the first 48 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,560 Mother's Day message I ever gave. 49 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,480 Just it didn't come around when Brandon was here and I think 50 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:55,240 somehow you took you had the 1st 2 Mother's Days of that's just 51 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,160 how the splits broke down. This is the third year that 52 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,560 we've been splitting preaching together and first time I've 53 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,840 gotten to do Mother's Day. So yeah, saw a lot of you 54 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:08,600 posting takeaways and pictures and reflections on social media. 55 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:12,280 So I know I hit home for some of you Glad the the word was living 56 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,160 inactive yesterday and hope that was a word of encouragement and 57 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,360 peace and freedom for your moms out there too. 58 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:19,720 I made my wife cry. I know that. 59 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:23,520 So I I, yeah, not that that's the goal every week, but that 60 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:24,680 was but. You checked. 61 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,920 You checked an important box. Yeah, it was a good. 62 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,000 Yeah. So anyway, yeah. 63 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:34,720 So coming up on, if you missed the announcement yesterday too, 64 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:40,320 I, I have 20 days left on the clock here till sabbatical. 65 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:46,000 And you just kind of explained how that works yesterday before 66 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,160 the, the sermon. It's actually designed, it is a 67 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,680 design that we have every seven years to follow, to follow the 68 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:57,960 biblical 7th year of, of rest in the 7th year usually of a 69 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:02,160 pastoral call, there is, there is a gifted time of rest. 70 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:06,440 So that's coming up for me and Schweitzer family this summer, 71 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,760 June 1st to August 16th. One of the things that I didn't 72 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,800 see, I didn't want to take a ton of time, but one of the things 73 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,520 that I didn't take the time to get into yesterday because I 74 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,360 didn't want to stomp all over your preaching time. 75 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,800 That would have been bad. But one of the things that we 76 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:25,080 talked about is like this is this is a real gift to our 77 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:29,640 church in a way too, because what happens is when a key 78 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:34,840 leader steps away for a season, it allows other people to step 79 00:04:34,840 --> 00:04:37,920 into roles and, and opportunities that maybe they 80 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,920 haven't had a chance to yet. And it allows people to, yeah, 81 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:46,040 just find some, some talents or some or some ways that they have 82 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,800 not maybe been able to serve because that person always fills 83 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,600 that gap. And I think it can be incredibly 84 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,440 beneficial to a church. Yeah. 85 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,160 So we've been making plans and considerations. 86 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,600 This wasn't a snap decision. This was actually, we decided 87 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:03,200 this last fall about about six months ago that this was going 88 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,800 to happen. So yeah, we have been making 89 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,840 plans and have people in places, especially in worship ministry 90 00:05:08,840 --> 00:05:13,520 to, to cover Sunday mornings and we yeah, preaching schedule all 91 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,320 worked out and, and things like that. 92 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:21,640 So, yeah, just wanted to make you aware there's some some 93 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,320 people are asking like they had only ever heard sabbatical in 94 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,200 like a disciplinary way, like, like forced, forced to time off 95 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,280 for a suspension. So there were some not like 96 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,000 accusatory conversation, but some people. 97 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,000 Is there something going on that we don't that we don't know 98 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,520 about? No, it's scheduled, scheduled 99 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,120 Sabbath rest for for this summer. 100 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,880 And yeah, for those of you who don't know Emily, my wife works 101 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,440 as a speech therapist. So she actually has she's off 102 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:50,600 during the summer. Like she follows a teacher 103 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,320 schedule. So she has to work that first 104 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,600 week of June. But after that, we have 10 weeks 105 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,480 of we're just going to get to dwell together with our kids for 106 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,600 70 days. And yeah, we have, we have 107 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,960 travel plans to see family and spend lots of time on water and 108 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,000 it's going to be great. So, yeah, looking forward to 109 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,040 that. Grateful for that gift. 110 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,560 But wanted to those of you that weren't here yesterday, I wanted 111 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,640 to catch you up on that too. Well, and apparently I I 112 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:20,560 thought, I thought you made that fairly clear, but I, I did, I 113 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:24,440 did have at least one person is like is is not like forever 114 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,360 leaving and I went no. No, it comes with the coming 115 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,040 back date. Yes, yeah. 116 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,640 So just let's let's make that as out there and obvious as 117 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,680 possible that Matt is not forever leaving. 118 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:40,160 No, yeah, just till August 16th is when it officially ends. 119 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,760 So actually the week before school starts back up is Yep, 120 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,000 when I'll be back in the fold in the swing of things, so. 121 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,720 See, The thing is like even that even that kind of like soft 122 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,440 question, I was like, did you see a look of horror on my face 123 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,160 on that stage? Because I wouldn't have been 124 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,280 able to hide it. I'm not that good at that. 125 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:03,280 And you didn't see a look of horror and deep, deep, deep 126 00:07:03,280 --> 00:07:06,400 sadness and concern. So yeah, we're we're good. 127 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,160 So that's, I mean, I think that kind of speaks to though, and 128 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:14,600 this isn't, this isn't Tooting my own horn, but most, most 129 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,480 churches don't or most people's experience at churches, they 130 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:22,040 don't, they don't experience a pastor taking sabbatical. 131 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:26,080 Pastors aren't in one spot long enough to get to his. 132 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:31,280 I think the yearly like evangelical tenure of pastors in 133 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,680 the country is still less than four years that that a pastor is 134 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,680 at a church before he goes to the next church. 135 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,200 So that's bad news. I think there's a bit of that to 136 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,400 any There's even some fear wrapped up in that of like 137 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,920 pastors leave. So so like time off is like not 138 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:48,040 a guarantee that he's coming back. 139 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,160 But that's, that's not what's happening here. 140 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,360 That's not how this works. I have to come back. 141 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,280 I want to come back. I am coming back. 142 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,760 My eyes are still firmly fixed here. 143 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:06,000 I again don't know, don't know what calls or how, how the Lord 144 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,880 is going to lead or work in the next 7 years. 145 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:12,920 But right right now on May 11th, 2026, like my heart is fully 146 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,200 intent on having another sabbatical here in seven more 147 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,560 years after this. So like, that's, that's where my 148 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,000 head's at. So, yeah, yeah. 149 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,560 There we are. All right, we are going to jump 150 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,920 into some reflections on the Mother's Day message from 151 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:27,960 yesterday. I kept it. 152 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,480 I think it was maybe the shortest sermon I've ever given, 153 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,559 actually, even. It was brief, but it was well 154 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:33,559 done. Thank you. 155 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:38,200 But so we'll get into some thoughts that you have on that 156 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,200 or just some extra, extra things. 157 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,039 I didn't spend a whole ton of time on the on the narrative or 158 00:08:44,039 --> 00:08:48,000 the illustrative passage for this week, the the story from 159 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,760 Solomon and and 1st Kings, but we'll, we'll get into that a 160 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,160 little bit more. But before that you have you 161 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,080 have some more Mother's Day goodness. 162 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,000 Mother's Day continues today. It does. 163 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,760 The Leftovers Podcast. Moms are worth more than one 164 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,200 day. Yeah, absolutely. 165 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:08,520 And so I am bringing today. Today I am going to bring top 166 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,600 five fun facts about Mother's Day. 167 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:14,600 All right, here we go. I'm excited for this. 168 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,120 So fun fact number one about Mother's Day. 169 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,840 It is one of the busiest phone call days of the year. 170 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:27,160 In fact, phone use phone traffic, it spikes by nearly 40% 171 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,000 on that one day every year. Wow. 172 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,360 All right, good on y'all calling your mom's. 173 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:34,640 But call her on a random Tuesday too. 174 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,200 Come on. Right, you can do that too. 175 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:40,400 You can do that too. Fun fact #2 it was founded by a 176 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,840 daughter who later tried to stop it. 177 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,440 Why would you try to stop it? Anna Jarvis created Mother's Day 178 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:51,360 in 19 O 8, but then she spent the rest of her life fighting 179 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,160 its commercialization. Wait, wait, wait. 180 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,000 OK, how? OK, hang on. 181 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:03,120 Created Mother's Day. Like, I don't know, I've never 182 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,520 heard that story because. Because now it's like, I mean, 183 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,120 it's a national holiday, kind of like, I mean, it's an 184 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,840 acknowledged holiday. How does, how does just like a 185 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:14,160 girl just be like, hey, everybody, America, today's 186 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,320 Mother's Day. How does it in 19 O 6? 187 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:17,720 That would take ads out in papers. 188 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,760 That would take like a month for everyone to even hear. 189 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:22,760 That's true. Hey, a month ago it was Mother's 190 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,320 Day. Yeah, I actually don't know how 191 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:26,760 holiday. Creation works. 192 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:28,600 Yeah, I guess I don't understand that. 193 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,160 Like I'm saying, like not from a governmental Yeah. 194 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:33,760 OK. OK, So it's following. 195 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,920 Oh, she's OK. She started this campaign. 196 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,240 Wow. Oh, her mother actually died in 197 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:43,840 19 O 5. And then, OK, she honored, she 198 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,040 started the campaign in 19 O eight. 199 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,320 The first Mother's Day service was held in Grafton, WV. 200 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:54,160 And then in 1914, President Woodrow Wilson signed a bill 201 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,480 recognizing the second Sunday in May as a national holiday. 202 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,760 So, OK, so she started like she literally started, she started 203 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,160 the movement. And that's how that makes more 204 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:04,440 sense, OK. The result? 205 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,920 Resulted in presidential declaration of the holiday. 206 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,320 Yeah, now there's kind of a day for everything there is. 207 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,960 You get online and every day has like 50 things. 208 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:15,960 So it's national this day, national that day. 209 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,360 Kristen posted National Lost Sock Day. 210 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,440 On this. Past Saturday, 2 days ago For 211 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,440 all of you people who don't pair up your socks. 212 00:11:24,560 --> 00:11:27,720 You got your own. Yeah, looking at you. 213 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,480 Pastor Chris feel painfully judged right now and I don't 214 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,880 like it, Sir. I don't like it one bit, not 215 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:39,840 even a little. It's it's the silliest thing to 216 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:44,880 bring out that that so many people felt so seen about 217 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:46,960 pairing or not pairing your socks. 218 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,440 You have friends, you have lots of friends who who came to your 219 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,920 defense of, hey, no, we don't pair our socks either. 220 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,880 We are very normal people. Thank you. 221 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,920 Thank you to all my friends out there and my supporters who 222 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,480 understand the real the real problem with socks. 223 00:12:03,560 --> 00:12:06,680 OK, so but the second part of this Anna Jarvis, she created it 224 00:12:06,680 --> 00:12:09,120 and then what did you say she spent the rest of her life? 225 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,920 Fighting because it became very commercialized right away. 226 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,480 So, you know, all the card companies, even way back then, 227 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,880 they picked up on this pretty quick and they're like, we can 228 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:19,760 make a buck. And she fought its 229 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,480 commercialization the rest of her life. 230 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,240 But OK. What did? 231 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:25,560 What did she think it was going to because? 232 00:12:25,560 --> 00:12:27,680 It's going to happen. Yeah, OK. 233 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:32,760 OK, well fun fact #3 Speaking of cards and all that kind of 234 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:34,680 stuff, Mother's Day is the third largest. 235 00:12:34,680 --> 00:12:37,840 I actually thought it would hire third largest card giving day of 236 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:39,960 the year. Over 113,000,000 cards are 237 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:44,080 exchanged, second only to Christmas and Valentine's. 238 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:48,600 OK, So that sorry, as I'm thinking real life processing 239 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,520 this, this that you're talking about the cards thing. 240 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:58,200 I mean, OK, lends credence then to Anna Jarvis's vitriol against 241 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:04,160 against Mother's Day. Because I kind of I do kind of 242 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,080 get it because it's the point that you already said of hey, 243 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:09,040 call your mom on a random Tuesday. 244 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:12,200 Not just but there's there's an immense amount of pressure, 245 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,440 commercialized pressure for Mother's Day. 246 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:19,640 I think probably both on moms to have the whatever picturesque 247 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:24,440 Hallmark family experience or whatever, but then also on the 248 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:30,280 dads and the kids to give that be that do that for the mom. 249 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,520 So I I kind of get it because again, like shouldn't that just 250 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:38,440 be hopefully, I mean, in biblical design, it was it would 251 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,840 be that should be every day. Every day should be Hey, 252 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,280 thinking, thoughtful, loving towards your mom. 253 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,480 So then I'll get the package under that under that one day 254 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:49,800 and there's just immense amount of. 255 00:13:50,680 --> 00:13:52,680 I know from Zero to hero in a day apparently. 256 00:13:52,680 --> 00:13:54,000 I kind of get it. I kind of get it. 257 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,120 Listen, I have done the same thing fighting against the 258 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,160 commercialization of Valentine's Day. 259 00:13:59,560 --> 00:14:02,000 Therefore, we don't even really celebrate it. 260 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,680 I mean, we don't like, we don't exchange cards and I don't buy 261 00:14:05,680 --> 00:14:08,840 flowers that are 10 times their normal cost and all that kind of 262 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,440 stuff. We just don't do it because we 263 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:16,040 we have taken the position of we ought to be like loving each 264 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,480 other at that level of intensity every day. 265 00:14:18,560 --> 00:14:20,000 Sure. Yeah, that makes sense. 266 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,600 So I don't know if you throw the baby out with the bathwater, but 267 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:24,440 interesting that kind of goes that way. 268 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,080 OK, so cards Mother's Day though, is only behind you said 269 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,440 Christmas and Valentine's Day, correct? 270 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:30,880 That makes sense. Yeah, that's fair. 271 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,640 All right, fun fact #4 it's also one of the biggest restaurant 272 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:38,280 days of the year. More people eat out on Mother's 273 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:42,080 Day than any other day, once again besides Valentine's Day. 274 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:48,200 Wow, wow. Yeah, I guess 'cause that also 275 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,560 makes it 'cause you don't like, maybe some people do. 276 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,600 You don't go out for Christmas. Everything's closed on 277 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:53,640 Christmas. Right. 278 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,960 Yeah, pretty much. Like that's not, I've heard of 279 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,120 people, people like go out to the movies or bowling. 280 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,280 Apparently, bowling alleys in movie theaters are not. 281 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,160 Very popular. In Christmas, closing on 282 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,160 Christmas. But I just feel bad going those 283 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,080 places. I feel bad going to those places 284 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,880 on those days, even with the immense amount of free time you 285 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:17,080 might have on Christmas, because then I'm actually like helping 286 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,480 people work on that day and I don't actually want that for 287 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,960 them. So therefore I don't go. 288 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,880 You want to like, boycott it so that maybe next year they'll be 289 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,080 like, Nah, it's dead anyway. You don't have to work exactly. 290 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,000 Yeah. And I think I just, I think it's 291 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,960 set. And again, I'm not trying to get 292 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:34,680 on a soapbox here. There are plenty of other things 293 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:38,760 I would get on said soapbox for, but you know, I just I don't 294 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,360 want for their for their own individual sake. 295 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,360 I don't want them working on Christmas like. 296 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:44,680 See, I feel different about that. 297 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,800 I think the movies thing is, is bigger than your little 298 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,560 grassroots movie. Like I mean, Hollywood, there's 299 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,320 some big releases that have come out on Christmas and things. 300 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:58,240 So like I almost would rather go to the movies to give those 301 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,200 people to make them feel if they're working, feel like they 302 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,720 have a purpose. Like, because if I, if I was, if 303 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,360 I was there and nobody came in, that would be really drag of a 304 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,080 day, honestly at the movie theater. 305 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,200 But if there were actually people, if I was actually doing 306 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,600 work, actually, I don't know, maybe I'm thinking about that. 307 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,680 Weird. But I just think about the 308 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,360 number of like part time employees at a place like a 309 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:21,360 movie theater, for example, and they're just dreading like, oh, 310 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:22,600 I have to. Work on Christmas. 311 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,000 I have to miss my family thing. I have to do this and if I don't 312 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,200 come in, they're definitely going to fire me and like I 313 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:28,480 would. That's not fun, no. 314 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:35,920 No, I don't like any of that. So anyway #5 carnations became 315 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,720 the official flower because they were Anna Jarvis's mother's 316 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,960 favorite flower. White carnations originally 317 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:44,720 symbolized mothers who had passed away. 318 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,880 Red or pink honored the mothers who are still living. 319 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,280 OK, that is good. I did not know that when 320 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,520 official flower bought the bunches of carnations for I have 321 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:58,520 the choice between carnations and roses went with carnations 322 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,000 didn't know that that was the official thing. 323 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:05,240 So actually I'm curious, Mom's out there which which carnations 324 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,079 or roses? Which what's the do you have a 325 00:17:08,079 --> 00:17:11,920 preference between between carnations or roses? 326 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,440 We did carnations this year, but I'm curious. 327 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,160 Yeah. Yeah, that is interesting. 328 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,599 Yeah, and I do just want to give a shout out again, I'm sorry. 329 00:17:21,599 --> 00:17:23,480 I feel like I'm like self promoting and humble bragging a 330 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,079 lot. Welcome. 331 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:31,440 Welcome to Monday. Very self congratulate to you 332 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,800 today. Happy Mother's Day to Matt. 333 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,440 Can we can we just isolate? Nobody wished me Happy Mother's 334 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:42,640 Day yesterday. Nobody did. 335 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:44,840 How? Dare they so insensitive? 336 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:54,840 Just shout out to men's ministry leadership yesterday that we 337 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:59,520 were tasked with loving on the moms yesterday. 338 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:03,560 I'm doing the and we were given no parameters that that was 339 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:07,760 largely Kristen sent me a TikTok about Macron towers and that was 340 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,760 I thought that was going to be fun to do. 341 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:16,080 So other than that, yeah, those guys busted and set up and and 342 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,560 did all the the coupons and the flowers and and the coffee bar 343 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,600 and the photo backdrop and everything. 344 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,680 So shout out, shout out to them. That was just tasked earlier in 345 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:28,120 the year of hey, you know what on Mother's Day, guys are going 346 00:18:28,120 --> 00:18:30,880 to serve. So shout out to men's ministry 347 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,120 and yeah, grateful for those guys putting in some extra time 348 00:18:34,120 --> 00:18:34,520 yesterday. I. 349 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,840 Wonder what the ladies will do on Father's Day? 350 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:41,720 Oh, is that happening? I assume OK I mean all all all 351 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,360 things being equal. As it were. 352 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,040 Then I mean. Fair's Fair. 353 00:18:46,120 --> 00:18:49,560 Our ladies, then our, you know, our women's ministry people. 354 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,480 Are they putting on Father's Day, I wonder? 355 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,560 I think I that makes sense. That could be happening. 356 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:55,880 Yeah. Oh, sweet. 357 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,800 Cool. Am I going to be here? 358 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,520 I don't think I'm going to be here for Father's Day. 359 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:03,720 We will be in intermittently throughout the summer. 360 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,400 I'm not really going to tell people when we're going to be 361 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,680 here, but. We'll be just random mat 362 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,280 sightings. Random mat sightings? 363 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,360 When is When is Father's Day? Is it the third Sunday of June? 364 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:16,000 The 2nd Sunday of June? I don't know my I don't know my 365 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,760 holidays do you don't either? I know. 366 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,640 Not off the top of my head. It is the 21st, the 3rd Sunday 367 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,960 in June. So no, we won't be here. 368 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:26,400 We'll have to see how that that turns out. 369 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:32,000 It'll be fun. Will be OK we're going to jump 370 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:36,360 into we're in a couple different passages from Sunday second 371 00:19:36,360 --> 00:19:39,760 Timothy chapter 1 verses 3 through 7 and then we're in 372 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:46,600 first Kings chapter 3 as well. Solomon's gifted wisdom from 373 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,520 God. But we'll start with Paul's 374 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:54,360 second letter to Timothy again just a word of encouragement to 375 00:19:54,920 --> 00:20:01,120 a young pastor a young leader in the early church and Paul I just 376 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:05,400 the more I read and re read this passage this week that this the 377 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:09,040 first part of this letter is a keep your eye on the ball 378 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,640 Timothy sort of sort of thing. I keep the keep the main thing, 379 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,560 the main thing. You got a lot of lot of 380 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,720 squirrels happening. You got a lot of persecution and 381 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,080 and extra stuff. I need you to need you to focus 382 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,520 on the main thing, so. Second Timothy chapter 1, 383 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,080 starting at verse three. I thank God whom I serve with a 384 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,760 pure conscience as my forefathers did, as without 385 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,360 ceasing. I remember you in my prayers 386 00:20:31,360 --> 00:20:34,640 night and day, greatly desiring to see you, being mindful of 387 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,560 your tears, that I may be filled with joy when I call to 388 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,840 remembrance the genuine faith that is in you, which dwelt 389 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,040 first in your grandmother Lois and your mother Eunice. 390 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,640 I am persuaded it is in you also. 391 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,520 Therefore I remind you to stir up the gift of God which is in 392 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,880 you through the laying out of my hands for God has not given us a 393 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,200 spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of sound mind. 394 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:02,240 The first part of this verse 3. There's immense so much freedom 395 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,360 in this passage and I I hope that was felt and heard 396 00:21:04,360 --> 00:21:08,440 yesterday, especially for the moms, but Paul is speaking it 397 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,080 for you. I thank God whom I serve with a 398 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,080 pure conscience. And if you think about his 399 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:18,520 history, his background, he's not dwelling on any of that. 400 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:23,840 He is not burdened by his life that came before at all. 401 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,960 I am serving God with a pure conscience, with no, with no 402 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,280 guilt, with no regret, with no shame for the former life that I 403 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:35,000 had. That's exactly the all things 404 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,840 made new in Christ. If you are in Christ, you're a 405 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,720 new creation like that. That is that attitude. 406 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:46,080 Yeah, I think it's, it's well worth any number of Christians 407 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:50,000 dwelling just even on this. And it's nothing in the Bible, 408 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,200 of course, is throwaway. And this is certainly not one of 409 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,640 those kind of throwaway introductory moments because, 410 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,840 yeah, as you examine this for what it is based on his history, 411 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:03,160 that should give Christians a terrible amount of freedom. 412 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,600 You know, because The thing is like, the closer you draw to 413 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:11,160 Christ in your faith, the more aware you become probably of the 414 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,120 sins, even the small ones. Yeah, even though, even though 415 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,360 the quote UN quote little ones that you never really thought 416 00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:19,120 about before, you become more aware of those. 417 00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:22,520 But at the same time, there also has to be a heightened awareness 418 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:27,200 of freedom and of joy and a totally clear conscience before 419 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,720 God because of what Jesus Christ has done. 420 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:34,360 I just, I think that is an amazing little verse that, yeah, 421 00:22:34,360 --> 00:22:38,000 Christians who especially are struggling with like guilt, you 422 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,080 know, like I promised God I wasn't going to do this. 423 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:44,920 Like just stay on this verse for a while and remember, and it's 424 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,320 not a comparison game, but remember that if Jesus Christ 425 00:22:49,120 --> 00:22:53,680 can forgive Paul and use him in really amazing ways for the 426 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,320 gospel man, what can he do with us too? 427 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,400 And, and it's not like God is fallen out of the business of 428 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,760 using sinners to do amazing things. 429 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,600 He still does that literally every single day. 430 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,200 So I I think this is a good place to dwell for Christians 431 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:15,200 who are still suffering from the sense of guilt or shame. 432 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:20,400 Yeah, I think it's really interesting too that Paul, I 433 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:25,280 wonder what the dynamic, what did he meet Lois and Eunice 1st 434 00:23:25,360 --> 00:23:29,040 and then and then they were like, oh, and our son Timothy is 435 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,080 called to called to ministry in this. 436 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:35,840 And I don't, I don't know, because Timothy was about, I 437 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,560 mean, Paul would have been roughly his mother's age. 438 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,640 Paul was about 30 years older than Timothy. 439 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,800 So I guess maybe they had kids earlier, but they also had kids 440 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:45,480 for longer. I don't know. 441 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:50,000 We don't know for sure. But because his, I mean 442 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,840 grandmother, Timothy's grandmother would have been like 443 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,920 Paul's mother's age. So she did she come to faith 444 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:04,240 earlier in like I I just wonder how that dynamic was, was did 445 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,320 did Eunice always have faith and she raised Lois in it from day 446 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,400 one? Did did Eunice and Lois come to 447 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,040 faith together? Was it was an adult daughter and 448 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,440 adult mother coming to faith at the same time and then raising 449 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,960 adult and then raising son grandson in the faith? 450 00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:23,240 I'm not really sure. What does stand out is he was 451 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,360 obviously familiar with the depth of Eunice and Lois like he 452 00:24:27,360 --> 00:24:30,880 he had you see this tender relationship. 453 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,560 I'm greatly desiring to see you mindful of your tears that I may 454 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,920 be filled with joy. So he's close to this family and 455 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,320 not just Timothy. He knows the sincerity, the 456 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:44,000 depth, the genuineness of the faith of these of these ladies. 457 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:49,080 There's some, there's some maybe scholarship that would indicate 458 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:54,200 on these two ladies that would indicate that both Jewish 459 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,240 believers. But because of the Jewish kind 460 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,600 of dispersion, you know, during certain parts of history, 461 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:05,680 especially early Christianity, that some people believe that 462 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,960 they came to faith in Christ even before they met Paul. 463 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,120 But and they have this Jewish background, right? 464 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,760 So like they're seeing the fulfillment of the Old Testament 465 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,920 in Jesus Christ, even not having met Paul yet probably, and then 466 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,080 they're passing this on to their son. 467 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,520 Now, what's also really interesting about this dynamic, 468 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,920 and you brought it up a little bit yesterday, which is so 469 00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:31,880 Timothy's mother, Jewish, was married to a Greek. 470 00:25:32,360 --> 00:25:35,160 So like they had kind of a mixed faith household. 471 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,280 And you also brought up the fact that he did later come to faith 472 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,400 in Christ, which is amazing. But they did have a mixed faith 473 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,120 household and even inside of a mixed faith household of sorts, 474 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,840 grandmother to mother to Timothy, they like, they just 475 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,920 pass this down. So again, going back to our 476 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,480 women's talk multiple weeks ago, what does that tell us about the 477 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,280 influence of women on their kids and all this kind of stuff? 478 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,720 Like it's, it's substantial, it's huge. 479 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,760 It doesn't. Yeah, men are called to be 480 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,120 leaders of faith in their household. 481 00:26:05,120 --> 00:26:07,560 However, it doesn't have to be just. 482 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:11,160 That the women don't have an invalid space in the course. 483 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,280 So I just, I, I love that little kind of detail. 484 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,160 And again, maybe you don't get that all that information 485 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,160 directly from this text, but it's all in the subtext of 486 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,280 what's happening here. Yeah, no, absolutely. 487 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,680 And so hopefully, hopefully that came out. 488 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,840 Yeah, because I I definitely Paul is highlighting the 489 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,400 influence that these ladies had on Timothy. 490 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,040 And then the call to accountability of the I'm 491 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:38,600 reminding you to stir up or to fan into flame the ESP would say 492 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,400 this gift of God, for God has not given us a spirit of fear, 493 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:43,800 but of power and of love and of sound mind. 494 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:48,120 So like in their example, I think he's talking to Timothy, 495 00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:51,200 saying in their example, whatever is fearful before you 496 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,800 meet it, the same way your mother and your grandmother did, 497 00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:01,080 whatever whatever was facing them, they kept the faith. 498 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,600 They, they, they stirred up this genuine faith that they have now 499 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,080 passed on to you. And it's, it's resulted in where 500 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,720 we all are right now. So you should also hold to that. 501 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,920 Well, and you mentioned also something yesterday, I'm just 502 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,400 picking up on a lot of the things that you said, this word 503 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,800 dwelt, you said lives in and it can also mean taking up 504 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,800 residency inside. And so isn't that amazing like 505 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:28,080 the Holy Spirit through these women having taken up residency 506 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,120 in them and giving them this incredible faith that they've 507 00:27:31,120 --> 00:27:34,440 now passed down. But that's, that's what we get 508 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,280 to be as Christians. We get to have God take up 509 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,440 residency inside of us, to dwell inside of us. 510 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,960 And that should give us an off the charts level of confidence 511 00:27:46,120 --> 00:27:49,440 that God is for us. Because in within all the world 512 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,520 religions, there's only one that even makes the attempt to say, 513 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,120 not only is God real, not only is he for you, he lives inside 514 00:27:57,120 --> 00:27:59,920 of you. And I've read books about 515 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,720 Muslims who this is. This is one of the things that 516 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,120 they really struggle with when they think about Christianity. 517 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:12,160 Wait, you're saying God, a perfect being of perfect 518 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,840 intentions and perfect everything, dwells inside sinful 519 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,240 humans? How is that possible? 520 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,880 And so that's one of the stumbling blocks for people of 521 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,800 other kind of big world religions. 522 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,480 They see that Christianity proclaims that God through his 523 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,760 Spirit lives in all believers, and they really struggle with 524 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:34,760 that. No, I and that makes sense that 525 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:39,960 that would be like a, a strange sort of addendum to to the 526 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,080 faith. And not not only that, but I, I 527 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,000 thought you were going to, I thought you were going to say 528 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:50,840 another, but the, the sort of motherly attributes of God, I 529 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,280 would think that has to be a stumbling point at some point 530 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,320 too. I suspect that. 531 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,800 No, we can't give these attributes to this masculine 532 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,280 God. We we can't speak of it that way 533 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:08,040 too, but that's man and woman. He created them in in his image. 534 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,320 They get like there has to be God. 535 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,840 God has to be both of those things, has to be the masculine 536 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,800 and feminine traits and defaults and characteristics and and has 537 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:20,280 to discipline like a father does and love like a mother does and 538 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,080 and vice versa. Yeah. 539 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,680 Well, and that's the cool thing, I think, and that's why a lot of 540 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,520 people I know even who are savvy about a lot of different 541 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,400 religions, there's a great struggle with Christianity in 542 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:39,040 general, simply because nobody could imagine this God, like you 543 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,320 couldn't have made him up there's. 544 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,320 No way. Because because he is, he is 545 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:49,520 always, he's always cross pollinating, I would say the law 546 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,040 and the gospel, balancing them both both perfectly, having high 547 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,640 expectations of both. He's always cross pollinating 548 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,640 the best attributes of men and the best attributes of women all 549 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,640 within himself. And it's like, gosh, this is not 550 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,600 going to do it justice, but I'm going to try anyway. 551 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,760 It's it's annoying for like comic book fans, for example, 552 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,160 when you have Superman who can literally do everything 553 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,080 perfectly. Now, where this illustration 554 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,000 falls short is the comic creators eventually had to come 555 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,040 up with something because his comics were so terribly boring 556 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,400 that eventually they had to come up with, oh, well, there's this 557 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,800 thing called Kryptonite that's found on this other planet and 558 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,680 we brought it to Earth and that's how we weaken him. 559 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,920 But it's, it's so weird for I think other people of other 560 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:38,000 faith backgrounds to look at the God of the Bible and say he is 561 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,480 everything. There are no weaknesses in him 562 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,640 anywhere. And that actually in some ways 563 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,960 it I can understand how they feel like this is unbelievable 564 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,880 because you take that unbelievable perfect God and 565 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,360 then you say that unbelievable perfect God dwells in his 566 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,320 believers through his spirit. Wow, that is a big pill to 567 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,600 swallow, but it's exactly what the Bible says. 568 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:07,360 Yeah, Yep. So that, yeah, man, it is, it is 569 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,160 wild to think about Christianity in that way, that it just, it's, 570 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,000 it doesn't make sense to like logically contrive all of those 571 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,560 things to, to create it in that way. 572 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,280 You'd you'd be off your rocker. Yeah, a human person couldn't 573 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,440 create that because they in themselves wouldn't buy what 574 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,360 they've already created, right? They it's not possible. 575 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,720 So anyway, that was a fun kind of off the course thing. 576 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,640 So that passage in second Timothy was the the sincere 577 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:44,880 faith calling of, of biblical motherhood and and a mother's 578 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,720 legacy that that sincere faith. We turned back to first Kings 579 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,880 chapter 3 and I'm not going to read this whole passage. 580 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,360 It's a little longer, but the gist of the story is to to 581 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:59,600 mothers to prostitutes sharing the same sort of household and 582 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,600 living space. One of one of their newborns 583 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:09,200 died and that mother swapped babies in their beds in the 584 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:10,880 night while the other was sleeping. 585 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,120 They bring their complaint to the king for him to sort out and 586 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:19,800 and determine which one, the child, the living child belongs 587 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,560 to. And when he yeah, when he 588 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,640 appeals to their absurd. I, I've wondered, I wondered how 589 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:32,720 like, I wonder how he's sitting. Like really, this is man, this 590 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,280 is what I'm here to sort out today. 591 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,640 Is is who's why why is yeah, why am I dealing with this? 592 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,600 But so he kind of it winds up being a wise thing. 593 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:45,880 But it's a very absurd thing in the moment too, to bring out a 594 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,040 sword, say, hey, we're just going to divide the kid and give 595 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,680 each half that'll that's how I'm going to solve this. 596 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,000 Can you? Imagine. 597 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,240 OK, so I I am playing this scene in my head, especially as you 598 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,120 were preaching yesterday. I'm playing this scene in my 599 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:03,840 head like a movie and Can you imagine how the the the true 600 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:08,720 mother of the living child felt when she stood silent, no doubt 601 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,720 before the king and this guy, this sword bearer comes out and 602 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,880 hands the king of sword. She is got to be scared out of 603 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,760 her mind, not only not for herself but for her child. 604 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,800 Yeah, absolutely powerless to do anything. 605 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,120 Yeah, because, you know, these women, they don't have husbands. 606 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,840 They're not in in that society. They are not even allowed to be 607 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,120 witnesses of any sorts of anything important. 608 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,000 And they're already at a very, very low level societally 609 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,040 because of what they do for their job. 610 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,480 So I mean, these neither of these women have any case to 611 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,400 make. And I just think like they're so 612 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,760 marginalized in that point. And how could you go about even 613 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,000 solving this problem? It's it's the whole thing is 614 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,880 kind of madness. But the way Solomon does this in 615 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,640 his God-given wisdom is fairly remarkable. 616 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:02,400 Yeah, so at that, at that point of when she sees what's about to 617 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:08,239 unfold, she pleads no, she can. The true mother says no, she can 618 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,719 have them. Don't, don't split them. 619 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:15,120 Don't, don't do that. Even if I'm giving up my 620 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,440 motherhood of this child for the rest of my life, let let them 621 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:23,159 live and Solomon and the God-given wisdom says only I 622 00:34:23,159 --> 00:34:25,440 mean only the true mother would react in that way. 623 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,400 Give the child to her. And, and I, I highlighted it a 624 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,679 little bit in the services yesterday to it again as you 625 00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:34,639 read different passages at different points in your life, 626 00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:40,400 the, the morality that is indwelt in the sanctity of life, 627 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:47,000 how you value human life and, and what that then dictates 628 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:51,719 about your truthfulness, your, your, your, yes, your human 629 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,280 morality in that. I think Solomon extrapolates 630 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,320 that here, too, because because of how she values life, I I can 631 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,240 take her at her word more than this, more than this other woman 632 00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:06,160 who is flippantly careless about about this life that doesn't 633 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,240 belong to her. Yeah. 634 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,360 You know, and, and OK, and you and you did it yesterday and I 635 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,520 thought you did it well, but let's go a little bit further on 636 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,600 then applying this to God's character for the people he's 637 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:23,400 going to save. I mean, the, the what God the 638 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,760 Father had to go through in order to save us. 639 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,200 I mean, that is that is a death that we cannot of his own son, 640 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,360 that we cannot fathom. I mean, we, we talk about it and 641 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:38,680 it it, but how can we even begin to fathom what God the Father 642 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,720 went through or this mother in this example was going to go 643 00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:46,840 through to say, OK, I'm going to reject my own motherhood so that 644 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:51,640 they can live. God as a great mother, if I can 645 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:56,320 say that, rejects his own fatherhood of his son so that we 646 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:57,480 can live. Yeah. 647 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:58,920 Isn't that remarkable? It is. 648 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,120 I just so I think, I think there's a depth to this passage 649 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:07,000 that again, it shows that God is both a perfect father and has 650 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,960 all those perfect motherly traits too. 651 00:36:09,240 --> 00:36:13,080 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And hopefully that was that was 652 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,440 shouted and seen yesterday. So from from the second Timothy 653 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,520 passage, we, we get the sincere faith as a mark of motherhood. 654 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,320 And and from this passage in first Kings three, we get, we 655 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:28,120 get this sacrificial love that is so paramount to motherhood. 656 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,960 And many of you, I was surprised at how word for I don't know if 657 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,920 you scrolled it down in the moment or if you, or if you went 658 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,560 back and listened to the stream of the message with so many of 659 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:41,720 you quoted the this exact moment that I was talking about 660 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:46,600 sacrifice in the, in the unseen moments, in the moments that you 661 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,360 don't want to be seen, when you, when you feel like you've poured 662 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,200 it all out and have nothing left to give. 663 00:36:53,240 --> 00:36:55,200 That's exactly where where God wants you. 664 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,400 And I didn't say that in a way that like that's how it's 665 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,400 supposed to feel 100% of the time. 666 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:08,200 But God was there. God has experienced that exact 667 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:15,440 moment of frustration, of burnt outedness of, of hopelessness 668 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,360 in, in, in that too. So, and again, not that he 669 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:24,360 designed you to always feel that or or be that way, but he did 670 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:28,840 design you when you're brought to that point to be ready to run 671 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,600 back to him, to lean on him, to understand that that he has been 672 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,200 there and it's in his strength that he brings you through. 673 00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:40,080 And he did he did design you to pour out in that way as a mother 674 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,440 and as and as father's too parent parenthood in that way. 675 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:49,080 Those feelings are not indictments of failure of of 676 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,440 shortcoming. I talked about the couple of 677 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,680 moments and I I think there's several other moments of God's 678 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,240 frustration throughout the Bible to like that those that fed 679 00:37:59,240 --> 00:38:04,280 upness with just sometimes the insanity of our offspring like 680 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,720 that's that also is not a feeling that is foreign to God. 681 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,240 We, we see that throughout the the the frustration. 682 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,280 Gosh, even when Moses coming down the mountain from the 10 683 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,440 commandments and they're worshipping out like dude, guys, 684 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,280 this is the first thing I had Moses write down and you're 685 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,000 already. Doing one job. 686 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:30,320 Like so of course, of course God was there too. 687 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,680 And I and I talked about God is holy, righteous, he, he can act 688 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,320 in judgment and injustice above reproof. 689 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,880 Not, not in a way that we should, we should not lash out 690 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,480 in, in anger or judgment. Just I think there's a line 691 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,920 between that and there's a place for discipline. 692 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:51,520 Surely they, they need to be anger really needs to be muted 693 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,320 in discipline, I think to be to be godly and to be biblical. 694 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:58,280 But God, of course, can act justly and rightly in that. 695 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,040 But I did just want to point out that that actual feeling that 696 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,400 that feeling of what have I done? 697 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,040 Why, how did, how did I get here? 698 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,560 How, how did I get to this point of frustration? 699 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,560 And then I feel guilty that I feel frustrated at my offspring 700 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,440 at at my creation. And should I have even been like 701 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,680 God went through those motions that that's the flood right 702 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:28,280 there of him parsing out how, how do how do I work through 703 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,800 this? So that feeling in itself is not 704 00:39:32,240 --> 00:39:36,200 crazy train. But for then we do have a choice 705 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,160 of how to respond when when we're when we're in that end and 706 00:39:39,720 --> 00:39:42,840 biblically, submissively, dependently on God, That's when 707 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,280 we got to run back to him as as both moms and dads. 708 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,960 Well, and you'll, maybe you'll know off the top of your head, 709 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,520 but Hebrews, of course, it talks about the fact that we don't 710 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,320 have a, we don't have a God who doesn't understand. 711 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:56,480 Right. Right. 712 00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,200 And so actually, and you're, you're absolutely correct. 713 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,040 What an amazing thing to be able to say. 714 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,000 All right, Lord, I know you know. 715 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:10,240 I know you know, because you've been through all these emotions, 716 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,560 maybe even with me as your son or daughter, you know? 717 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:19,640 So I'm going to need your help right now not to just absolutely 718 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,640 lose it all because. He knows, Yeah. 719 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,040 And I think that's, that's the prayer right there. 720 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,280 When you are when you are at your wit's end as as a parent, 721 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:34,880 as a mom or a dad, I don't got, I don't know how to talk to my 722 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:41,160 child, but you do. So help, help me, help me with 723 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:45,480 the words, open their ears and their mind to to understand and 724 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,840 listen. Like are, are those are those 725 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,960 the prayers that we're asking for? 726 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,400 And it's kind of the song we sing at the end. 727 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,800 I've we've we've sung abide a lot. 728 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,040 I know. And and that's I've probably 729 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,920 dosed it out more doled it out more than we usually would with 730 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,920 a new song. But I think, man, I've just 731 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:07,440 been, I feel like I've been LED in this season that we got to 732 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:12,960 let go of self people. So much of our life accounts for 733 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,440 being dependent on God. It we just, we just have to so 734 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:21,960 even even some of those opening verses in abide for the sun to 735 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,120 rise. We have nothing to do with that. 736 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,840 We fully depend on God for that. There is nothing in any of our 737 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,240 even Elon Musk with all of his satellites and all his rockets 738 00:41:31,240 --> 00:41:35,640 that we cannot do anything to make or prevent the sun from 739 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:41,320 rising. For my sleep at night, I depend 740 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:46,880 on you like man you're feeling. Do you pray for sleep ever? 741 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,800 If you're lacking in it, you should. 742 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:51,360 You should. You should ask. 743 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,320 I'm not kidding. Like wait wait. 744 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,480 Add that to my. List there's there's those 745 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,880 things that I guess we feel are maybe too small to to bother God 746 00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:01,520 with. But if it's what you want and 747 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,800 what you need, put it up there. Yeah, it's interesting, you 748 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,680 know, I'm, I, I'm, I can't help but being drawn back. 749 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:14,840 God begged his people not to ask for an earthly king over, over 750 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,000 them. And the people just would not 751 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,200 have it. He, he, he wanted to be their 752 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:20,560 king. He wanted to be their father. 753 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,800 He wanted to be the one who leads them continuously through 754 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:28,600 that wilderness of life. And when he finally gave in, 755 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,960 because God is, he allows us to make our own decisions like a 756 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,960 good father does. But when you finally gave in and 757 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,440 said, fine, OK, I'm going to, I'm going to put in earthly king 758 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,400 over you, you're not going to like it. 759 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:46,400 And it's, it's not, it's simply because he always wanted to be 760 00:42:47,240 --> 00:42:51,760 the one who we depended on, not a governmental system, not, not 761 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,560 an individual person who we look to, to to all these things. 762 00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:01,320 But because of our request, because of our inability to just 763 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,800 fully depend on him. What did he do? 764 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:09,720 He gave us then a king who came in the form of a human who was 765 00:43:09,720 --> 00:43:13,440 able to be eaten with and and touched and talked to, and he 766 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,840 gave us that in his Son Jesus Christ. 767 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,720 And he said, OK, this is the Last King you shall ever have, 768 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,200 and he was the perfect one for you, and he will be perfect for 769 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:27,400 you in the spirit that I'm going to let dwell in you for the rest 770 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,040 of human history. Yeah, perfectly fulfilled. 771 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:36,520 Even our sinful outside of his plan wants He perfectly 772 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,480 fulfilled it. He worked all of that for good. 773 00:43:39,720 --> 00:43:43,440 As he always does. Yeah, I think that's where we're 774 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,320 going to leave it for Mother's Day recap. 775 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,400 I'll. I'll leave you with my summation 776 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:54,800 in our Mere mortal Monday, how we would sum up the message. 777 00:43:55,640 --> 00:44:00,960 Hopefully you took away the godly Mother's legacy combined 778 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,680 sincere faith with sacrificial love empowered by the Holy 779 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,800 Spirit. I hope that's what you heard 780 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,200 yesterday. Moms, we love you. 781 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,040 We care for you. We want to be a community that 782 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:16,160 supports you here at ERC. So yeah, thanks for hanging with 783 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,320 us on the Leftovers podcast today. 784 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,840 Lots of stuff coming up if you didn't get your summer bucket 785 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,600 lists card and a lot of the events coming up. 786 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,480 We've got a movie in the park. We're playing music at the the 787 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,760 Bix races down in Davenport. Again. 788 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,560 We've got a day at the ballpark, the River Bandits baseball game, 789 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,200 lots of other stuff, pool party, lots of other stuff on there 790 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:39,320 too. Be sure to grab one of those 791 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:43,480 cards off of Facebook or the physical one at the Connection 792 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,560 Center here. We'd love to do keep doing 793 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,800 community with you over the summer, so thanks for hanging 794 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,360 with us here. Have a blessed week.